Wifi 7 Is Absolutely Insane! - TP-Link Deco BE85 Mesh Review
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Wifi 7 is even faster than I imagined! In this video we take a look at the TP-Link Deco BE85 Whole Home Wifi router to perform a Wifi 7 Speed test using the One Plus 11 5G which is equipped with Wifi 7.
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0:00 Introduction
0:17 What is Wifi 7?
0:59 TP-Link Innovation
1:21 Deco BE85 Router
3:18 Pulseway
4:28 Router Speed Tests
7:39 Mesh Speed Test
8:35 Results and other tests
8:04 Pricing
9:42 Final Thoughts
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There are a lot of comments saying this kind of speed is useless. This is not true. Yes, most people will not benefit from these crazy speeds on the majority of the devices in their home. However, there are 2 major benefits from a system like the one in the video:
1. You can maintain fast speeds from the satellite units in a whole home system. The biggest downside to whole home (mesh) wifi is that the satellite units don’t offer speeds nearly as fast as the main access point so they needed to be wired together for the best experience. Now with wifi 7 you can keep them all wireless and still get great speeds from the satellite units even on your older wifi devices.
2. The other benefit is a super fast connection to other internal network devices such as a NAS or another computer. You may not benefit from these crazy fast speeds to the internet since your internet plan is likely nowhere near this fast but you can still benefit from this on your internal network. Most people don’t have a NAS in their home but this is a big benefit for power users such as video editors, content creators, or IT Pros.
TLDR: The average person doesn’t need this kind of performance but it’s beginning to blur the lines between wired and wireless which is beneficial for power users and IT Pros.
**Throughput isn’t as important as latency when it comes to gaming so if you’re a gamer you’re still better off with a wired connection.
You should pin this comment fyi.
I actually hit pin yesterday when I posted it but for some reason it didn’t work. Thanks!
It's not just about speed, but also about latency, number of connected devices, range and reliability/resistance to interference. All of those improve significantly. And as it is almost as fast as most SSDs, it becomes a viable option to store and use files from a NAS as if they were local to your device.
I'd be interested in energy consumption of those, as running 3 of those 24/7 may just get really expensive in europe.
@@Sil3nC4it’s only matters when you have fast internet
I ain't going to lie I tried Wi-Fi6E separate modem and router through a stable cable connection and I can tell you it was the most unstable connection that I ever had. Tried it for a week and a half and went back to Wi-Fi 6.. The distance was very poor the the ability to stay connected was very poor. I'm not going to sit here and say that it's useless because it's not. But most residential internet speed is a gigabyte. Least that's what mine is And that's all I see you around. But I think wifi-6 is more than enough for residential purposes... We can't even get streaming platforms to up bitrates and download speeds for games top out at maybe 500Mbps and TV ethernet ports are still GB connections.. so again for residential it might be Overkill
Anyone here just cry at the old days of trying to watching umm....those videos 😮 on 56k .....being 16 in 1999 was terrible. You kids are so lucky. Great video CM
Lmao ughhh. I remember trying to look at photos and it would load like 10% of the picture at a time.. Ahhh 😳😨..
Also I remember downloads for games or songs that would say months to YEARS for estimated completion 😢
trying to load a 144p flash animation and then you get a call and the internet dies. ya, i dont miss it.
I feel ancient on 5, but my phone is the only thing I have that can even use 6.
Yea if your not paying for 500 or 1gb internet 5 will be just fine.
@@rom116kjvthis. You just gotta play your hand
@@rom116kjvtbh wifi 5 or ac can handle a 1gb when you go over that where 6 comes into play but I don't see how anyone needs more than 300
@@rom116kjvI pay for 1500 down and get it all with wifi 5
I have quite a lot of WiFi 6 devices now, PC, Laptop, phone, PS5... I think I will stay on WiFi 6 for a couple more years until wifi7 is affordable.
TP-Link makes really good hardware, but one issue is their inconsistent firmware update track record, where some models, especially high end ones, will quickly lose support if they do not sell well. For example, their AD7200 routers only got around 9 months of support before the stopped firmware updates. Many others in various segments from mid range to high end, would lose support within around 15 months.
I didn’t finish the video because I hate it when people put sponsored before they actually talk about the video title says
@@charleswoods4830 Pretty much all major youtubers include a short sponsor spot near the beginning of the video.
@@charleswoods4830 Just skip the sponsor part if it is a product you are not interested in. That is what everyone else does.
No they don’t. Their wifi adapters are terrible!
@@Leo-yn5fx Wifi adapters in general are terrible. Name one brand you like.
Subbed!! The way you explain tech makes me excited and eager to get my hands on one of them!!
Been waiting on this video. Great content. I’ll probably get the BE95 two pack.
Chris, you mad man :) I'm sitting thinking I should upgrade to WiFi 6e and here you bust out a WiFi 7...
I have been in IT for 23 years and doing Home Theater for 30 years (I saw you in the sponsor spot). I think I need to subscribe.
I have the TP-link be900 , another Wi-Fi 7 router. It is amazing, I used to have a gaming router from asus that dropped connections and the bandwidth was glitchy. With this router, all speeds are consistent and stable throughout the house.
I switched from the BE800 to the BE85, as the range was very mediocre. Great when near the router, but not great further away.
Great review! - Thanks!
It's getting harder to keep up with all the new technologies Chris! - Cheers!
I have the TP Link Deco Wifi 5 three pack system that looks similar to this one just slightly smaller. Ive never been happier or more impressed with a router system...... I've been pushing friends and family to switch to seamless mesh for their homes.....the ease of setup, use and seamless transitions between access points is unprecedented.
TP link, in my opinion has the greatest home network systems!!!!
What Western brands do you recommend or TP-Link specifically, Chinese specifically?
Great review! I never thought I would see a $1500 price tag for a wireless system lol! Crazy!
This is my first non projector video from you nice 👍
I learned a lot from this and felt informed enough to buy. Thanks!
I am happy to sub, much love brother
Nice video, I can see so many benefits. Maybe not so much for a home but in businesses and organisations there is definitely a big opportunity.
1. For point to point connections, eg if you need to link nearby buildings at gb speed without necessarily having to run or lease fibre connections
2. Improvised density, especially if you are responsible for a laptop fleet in an organisation or school or something similar, you can have intent in your upgrades and ensure wifi 7 is included in the config. Within 3-5years you will have your entire fleet upgraded.
3. Planning starts early, it’s not about today or tomorrow, but you are planning the future ; you would definitely consider it especially if you are due for a wifi refresh.
Biggest win is also in crowded areas like stadiums, auditoriums, stations, where there are lots and lots of devices from laptops to phones
Deco M5 was my first mesh as an experiment. Had it for a few years and loved it. Upgraded to 6e mesh and when the prices drop on wifi 7 will jump on them. Love this brand because it’s a bargain for many people only buying when on sale. Never early adopt tp link “here first “ products.
So impressively knowledgeable!! I really like your reviews.
MLO is the real deal here, not only no longer dealing with differrent bands and SSIDs(even with stuff like bandsteering its still painful), but also utilizing them all at the same time. I think wired backhaul will always stay as superior(especially in Europe since 6GHz is limited to 500MHz, not full 6.0-6.9GHz range is allowed yet) you can't fit both main 6G stream and 6GHz backhaul into the band both in 320MHz width. Also at the end its still wifi.
I was dissapointed this was not covered here...I care less about speed and more about reliable connectivity which MLO will help provide.
@@VanceRefrigeratn in my opinion that's pretty hard to cover because you gotta test with bunch of devices simultaneously and with ton of different use cases
@@pcislocked very fair point! not a super huge pool of choices at the moment.
Since I got my first Deco M5 mesh wifi system some years ago after having trouble with Wi-FI in my previous house, I've consistently been happy with it, but even with very consistent updates, they're getting long in the tooth for my needs (And wants if I'm being honest) so even thought these are currently out of my price range, I'm almost 100% certain that these will be the replacement for those as their specs look awesome!
Excellent video as always
Great review! - Thanks!
This Tp link device is blazingly fast for it have spark a hype feeling in me to go and get one. And what's more exciting is that it have a faster version for business. It's intriguing to hear the merging of the wifi frequencies in this device.
Very interesting. Thanks.
Will keep this device in mind when I upgrad my network.
Thanks Chris. 👍🏼
I love my Deco Mesh (not the Tri frequency one in your vid)!
The best thing about it is that it has seamless transition from one station to another, meaning that if you are watching a video, there are no interruptions as I walk around the house!
That’s stunning performance, especially given the router and phone are both very early first gen products.
Great review 🙏
Great video , thanks man.
Awesome your channel just popped up and I subscribed
great video! thank you for sharing! that is pretty impressive!
TP-Link is definitely pretty good. I am running an AX1500 Wifi6 router with a T-mobile gateway and the speed through out our house is awesome. Definitely not as fast as wifi 7 but it does get the job done without any signal attenuation.
This is so cool. But CAUTION before you run out and buy this note that at the time of writing this comment the Wi-Fi 7 spec has yet to be officially released. Meaning that this device may or may not fully comply with the Wi-Fi 7 specifications. It has not been officially ratified, and there may not be updated to be officially supported by Wi-Fi seven devices which can lead issues.
Great video. Thanks for the details. Now that Netgear has released their version, can you do something similar comparing the Deco and the Orbi wifi 7 systems?
I’m a Plume believer, but seeing this makes me eager for their version of WiFi 7 when it finally comes. Great video!
Thanks for the info Chris great video!👍🏽 I currently have AT&T fiber 1 Gbps but looking to have optimal connectivity throughout my house due to it being 2 story. Should I invest in this or the Deco XE200?
I love Deco, this mesh network fixed all my dead spots in my 2 story house
Great video. Thanks for sharing. I’m still on 5 with my Orbi mesh.
What Wi-Fi6 mesh system do you recommend?
Great review! Will be anxiously awaiting the wifi7 productline price drops! Been running the Deco X90 for few years, no issues, great triband thruput, no deadzones, seamless roaming. TP-Link is great at bleeding edge consumer grade mkt disruption 🙌💯🔥! The only cons are the phone app only based router mgmt and the necessary subscription for full parental controls.. Remember we Always Say NO to subscription based add ons, ppl.. when will they learn..
Some of their models have free tp-link homeshield standard version and require subscription for homeshield pro. Other devices like x60, x20 or m9/m5 have Homecare which was supposed to be free for the first months but turned out to be free forever (at least for the m5, and I think for the x60 too). If you set an m5 as your main deco, it will load Homecare instead of the homeshield standard. Two drawbacks of using one older deco as main, is that it has slower cpu and less memory, so it can struggle in an overcrowded network. The second drawback is that if you add (let’s say) one m5 on your deco network, even if it’s not set as a main deco, some features get hidden from the menu, like the WPA3, because even though it is supported on the newer decos, it wouldn’t work on the m5, so it’s disabled altogether.
price drops will take at least 5 years at this current pace
I just got the be95 and so it's incredible. I wish i had a wifi7 device to properly test it . Waiting to get 10 gig internet in couple months.....How is the tp-link waps work for you?
Insane Speeds and Insane Price, TPLink I will come back after 3 years 😂. Thanks Chris for the detailed review.
This is wild. I have 5Gbps at home and only have Eero routers for Wi-Fi. Been trying to find something to take advantage of it so good to see the initial tests panning out. Maybe in the next year or so we can see cheaper versions and more tech using w7
Hlo bro!
Which country are you from,
And what's the price for 5gbps plan?
Tech is advancing so fast. I just upgraded to WiFi6 last year since I’ve been having more WiFi6 devices (iPhone 14 Pro Max, PS5, and AM5 Motherboard) and it’s already old. I honestly don’t see myself upgrading in like 5 years or so.
Looks nice; however as you said there are no WiFi 7 clients- and won’t be any until next year. Problems with 6ghz band is that it doesn’t penetrate walls as well or do distance well (higher frequency) - the only reason this works decently currently is that you probably have no contention. Most people aren’t using the 6ghz band yet which helps. I assume the reason this is working decently is because it is using all 3 (2.4,5,and 6) bands. This will not work as well in apartments, hotels, coffee shops, etc. Where it will work well is in single family homes.
You are correct that I’m likely getting good distance because it’s not fighting with other signals. I wasn’t actually using MLO though so all the tests were with it turned off. I actually got slower speeds with MLO on. I’ve been impressed with what I’ve seen from 6ghz though. Even from Wifi 6E the distance was impressive considering it’s high bandwidth.
There are multiple Wi-Fi 7 clients. Multiple laptops, Android phones, etc. It's just not certified and won't be until at least late 2024 to early 2025. 6 GHz is what provides those peak speeds you saw...
@@ikjadoon What clients? From what I know all QCA chipsets are still in development. Same with Intel. Apple just now has 6e in its lineup and has not announced anything in wifi7 at all. Samsung has a phone that will be upgradable with firmware to Wi-Fi7. Really would like to know which clients you refer to.
TP-Link makes some awesome Network gear. Great review. WiFi 7 ... wow
Impressive 😅
I don't really know if it is realistically doable due to possible overheads but maybe you could speed test a gen4 nvme enclosure over the usb 3.0 using ftp?
Nice video!
Great Content
Nice review. The only thing I was hoping to see, was a speed test on a device wired to the 2nd access point. On my current 6e network, my 6e capable PC is only getting around 300mbps down, using Wifi, and 370mbps while plugged into the extender. So if I can get closer to the 1.5gbps I'm paying for, then I'll be happy. But at $1700 CA for just the 2 pack, I want to do as much research as possible, before I shell out the money.
Very awesome soon as our netgear router goes we might upgrade to this sucker. :)
I have 1 Wi-fi 7 BE10000 as my main hooked up with 3 decco Wi-fi 6e mesh satellite mesh routers, all connected to the newest NightHawk CM3000! Speeds are crazy fast, and my Playstation Portal has ZERO lag regardless of the game I'm playing! Best set up I ever had!!!!! I have Spectrum 1 gigabyte plan reaching 1gbps on tests with all 3 of my wi-fi channels!
Omg this is a great video. Thanks!!
Just a quick question - I've always used the highest standalone router model like Nighthawk from Netgear. If you were to test out the speed in a close proximity (same room like 10ft away) using the highest standalone router model from any brand, would you get the same speed like 3500 download and 3100 upload?
I'm just getting into the IT field I'm going for my CCNA then my CCNP. And just within the last six months the industry has changed so much. Very soon they'll have 100gbps for consumers...It's crazy but I love it.
Just so you know, having those certifications is very low level. And they say a degree doesn't matter, it does. Having a good degree, the difficult certifications coupled with experience is a win-win. Even then, making high 6 figures in IT these days is very difficult.
All this power to stream a low bit rate version of terminator 2 in 4K.
🤣🤣🤣
Impressive! SHould have grabbed the TP-Link!
I went to the top of the list and bought the Netgear Orbi Wifi7. Impressed with the speeds (10Gbps + 2.5Gbps ethernet on each sat) but limited Admin features that the Tp-Link appears to have as standard...
This is incredible.
Waiting for the outdoor version :)
Greetings. Thanks for the video - really enjoyed it. May I ask what software you used for the animations?
OpenspeedTest
@ChrisMajestic Apologies. I was asking about the computer animation displayed within the What is Wi-Fi 7 segment of the video. What service/software did you use?
Some phones are Wifi 7 - ready and will receive an update to enable it. Like the Xiaomi 13 line.
Now I'm here in my neighbor's panic room and I'm really interested to see how the router works from here.
your wifi outside is better than my network connected through ethernet
This is wild. Are you on a fiber network until your wifi router? Also what level plan do you have? I’ve made a bunch of upgrades to my own system but for the most part everything is wired with CAT8 cables. I have have to use cox and I have their router modem but I’m thinking I need to get a different router modem entirely now.
ohh my goodness, i literally just heard about wifi7 a few days ago... those speeds are insane... i'm not gonna mess with wifi7 yet... i'm at least 2-3 years away from doing anything with wifi7... but, it does look impressive...
That's amazing!! Not sure how many folks would buy it at that price point...would be great for AI and CAD professionals working remotely.
Hey Chris much respect you are a fellow jack of all trades
What kind of residential internet plan can deliver modem speeds this high? Sign me up! Would the BE95 kit be giving even faster speeds? Fantastic review
I have the Deco X60's and they are setup with hardwire backhaul. One in the basement, one in the living room, and one upstairs in my office. With direct line of sight, actually up a slight hill, about 100 yards away, i'm still at 4mbps download and upload. And it quickly increases at I walk closer to my house. Cell signal is almost non-existent in my neighborhood, so this helps a lot while out walking my dog. Plus i've helped neighbors buy and setup these in their homes too, so i'm almost always connected, since they let me on their guest networks! lol $179 at Costco, when on sale!!!
I was thinking about reviewing a Wi-Fi 7 extender I am on FiOS currently using their equipment. One of my videos on my tech channel did really well with testing routers
I own the model and its insane speeds, software is great also very happy with this model.
I've had my eye on this system for a while, but I elected to get their 6E system for now since it'll be a whole before I have any BE clients. My municipal fiber service offers up to 2 Gbit but I need to upgrade the rest of my network.
What software did you use for your floorplans?
It makes sense to add an SFP+ port as a lot of 10Gbe equipment (router/switching) will have SFP+ also, given cost and heat dissipation of 10Gbe-T
Yes. Heat is a problem. When using a SFP+ module you could hear the internal fan kick on
@@ChrisMajestic and 10gbaset is even worse
it's really good to have if you're thinking about running a wire from one mesh to another in separate buildings, because of grounding issues.
@@Layarion although in that scenario very likely that would be an uplink between two switches and the the AP connected to the nearest switch
I’m curious, would it be possible to use the sfp + connection as the wired back haul between the two devices?
Hey Chris Great video. I have ethernet ports around my house on my walls, they connect to a switch in oneroom. can I use those TP APs you have on the wall rather than the ceiling?
Yes. I do that myself. I found that in my house they actually worked better that way.
Would you guys recommend going with WIFI7 or perhaps the ORBI MESH WIFI 6E system? Thanks.
Are you going to review the BenQ ht4550? Love to hear your opinion of it
Random question, what monitor speakers are those in the background. Looks like I see horn tweeters?
I wish you would have setup up your speed test through the WAN port. A lot of routers have great speed in LAN connections but have limitations on WAN to WIFI speeds, even the 6E routers.
I did run the speed tests through the wan port so it’s still running through the firewall. The router was not in bridge mode. This is no different than any other external Speedtest and is more reliable than using external Speedtest sites.
@@ChrisMajestic Thanks for letting us know.
@@ChrisMajestic Running a speedtest through external sites is just as important though, because it shows what connection speed to the internet you are likely to get, most people just use a cord or cloud services for transferring files from one device to another.
@@MegaLokopo It’s the same. As long as you’re going through the firewall you are still testing what it can do. I’d be limited by my gigabit service if I used an external site which wouldn’t test the multi gig capabilities of the router. The router doesn’t treat my internal network any different than it would treat the external internet. If anything you’d be limited by the sites themselves but not the router.
@@ChrisMajestic I guess, but if you want to actually test the routers capabilities, you should be doing atleast 50 tests not just 10.
What use case are you testing for if you aren't testing through to an external site? Home networks are rarely used for direct connections.
Can you make a video regarding how to build an internal speed test server? I have always wanted to see how that is accomplished.
It’s incredibly easy. You just launch an executable.
openspeedtest.com/
What modem would you recommend if you were to buy any of these combos you linked?
Damn…I knew I should have waited. I bought a Wifi 6E system for $1500 less than a year ago. I would have preferred this.
Lolz the speeds hes getting outside the house in the drive way is what I end up getting sitting in the same room with my accesspoint! 🤣🤣
Could you tell me if the 2.5gb ports able to port trunk /link aggregate? And could a review of the LED UST Optoma be done ?
I definitely need this router for my 5mbps internet connection 👀
What is your internet service and what is the max speed feed into your router?
This is the stuff dreams are made of!
As always, great video! I'm in desperate need of a Wi-Fi upgrade. I was looking at TP-Link XE75 pro, but strongly considering the Omada network. Could you share any insights or make a video about Omada? I'd love to know more about performance, installation, cost/benefit analysis from your perspective! Thank you!
Sorry if i missed it, but what device do you have that connects to wifi7? A phone?
Awesome video. food for though.
@ChrisMajestic any idea when the wifi 7 omeda AP are coming? I believe there are two models, one with two 10Gbps ports and another with one
I’ve been waiting ages for it to pop up but there is no info on the release date. It took them 2 years to finally release their Wifi 6E AP. That one also has a 10G port but the cost is nearly $500. I can imagine how much the Wifi 7 AP will cost.
What is your wired connection from the provider? We just don't get speeds anything like this in the UK
From a science / physics standpoint, why do the upload speeds drop more significantly over distance compared to the download speeds? Never could figure out why that happens even with symmetrical connections... Thank you!
I always figured it was because a client device will have a weaker transmit power (or worse antennas) than the router itself
New Wi-Fi every year 😮
I’m at a Gig with AT&T and they offer 5Gig and I have an Eero Pro 6E.
Would love to test out the highest end systems.
what were you using as local network speedtest?
Amazing
I recently bought and returned the Deco XE-75 Pro. I wanted to like them really bad. I have around d 25-30 Kasa smart plugs and am a big fan of TP-Link. The hardware was really nice and the setup was super messy. thier app looks great and I was really exited especially considering the price compared to competitors. Well things went down hill from there. Devices frequently connected to access points much further away rather than connecting to the one next to it. No problem right? In the app you can force connection to a specific access point. Well that feature never worked. Not once. You can also set which access point each unit connects to so if you are far away from the main unit you can piggy back of another satellite rather than going back to the main unit. Cool feature, it didn’t work either. I also just had many connectivity issue I never had when I was using my old Orbi router. Like some have said Tp-Link makes great hardware. The software not so much but I see how this channel has become a TP-Link fan page. Understandable when they keep giving you that sweet free swag!
Was the Fibre connection direct from the ISP or passthrough from a downstream unit?
Hey mate great video just wondering the speed 3209mbps is around 400MBps not 3GB right?
Correct. You can export to live around 400MB/s with 3200mbps of throughput.
Hiw does it do through rebar and concrete bock walls ?
So I have the 6e system from TP. Could the units I have work in mesh with these new ones?