My hangup on it is I like that we can hook up an egpu. But the fact that at the moment it's an actual necesity in order to get acceptable performance out of it kind of ruins the whole portable part of the experience. And yes, I know the upcoming tweaks will help. Just still kind of annoyed that we're being used as paying beta testers because they rushed this thing out instead of waiting another month or two.
You have the SWITCH combo here. eGPU for couch gaming then unplugged and take the Lenovo on the Go. You will not need to upgrade that eGPU if a New Legion Go comes out. A Laptop is a good gaming and PC replacement but the mobility to play on the go plus terrible batteries 🪫 are not suitable. I think this is great cuz Now if you buy a laptop, you can get whatever you like and keep your gaming on the Legion go. The Macbook Pros have great batteries life vs Windows laptops and you can travel with both the Macbook and the Legion Go. BEFORE i always needed a laptop that could do both things so i got a Razerblade. But now there is really no need for that.
Short-sighted though. Yes, this isn't cheap. But; A gaming laptop with an RTX 4070 will cost about £1700. A Legion Go will cost £700, the 4070 £570 and an eGPU probably about £300. So not dissimilar in price point. But the eGPU with a 4070 will probably outperform the laptop somewhat, but that's not the real benefit. The real benefit comes from that in a couple of years, you could then upgrade the RTX 4070 to an RTX 5070 for the same £580 or so and get all the performance that comes from that upgrade. Whereas with a laptop, you'll need to buy a whole new laptop.
That is when you realize that PC gaming is more akin to Tom & Jerry and not actual gaming. That is no different than trying to squeeze so much power out of a car that it's undrivable everyday even with mundane task like a grocery run.
If you put the emulation instructions video I'll definitely will view it lol ! You the reason I have a dope arcade machine ! Since 2020 I've been learning from you man ! Keep it up ! Much love 👾💯
to be fair Linux isn't why eGPU isn't supported on Steam Deck , its the lack of Thunderbolt/USB4 ports Steam Deck 2 will more than likely have said ports. eGPU is supported by Arch Linux already.
But the Asus Ally is locked/limited to only using their external graphic cards, that are kinda hard to find in stock and when the 2-3 alternatives of Egpu for Asus is available to buy they are really expensive. If I understand it correctly the Legion Go does have a universal USB4/Thunderbolt so you can connect whatever graphic card you want ? Even though Asus own connection port is probably faster you could buy a RTX 3070 for 550$ and connect to the Legion Go or am I wrong ? I just recently heard about the Legion Go so I have not studied everything about it yet. But to have a handheld unit I can play in my bed before going to sleep like a Nintendo Switch, and then take it to my friends house at weekends and connect it to a monitor, gaming mouse&keyboard and an external graphic card and play Battlefield 5 in 1440P with good FPS sounds amazing
I'd like to see Lenovo release a grip for the controllers, so you could just have the screen hooked up to a larger display and game from the couch. Something like the Nintendo Joycon comfort grip.
the controllers are pretty bad attachment wise, they need a weird amount of force on their plastic rails to detach and it's pretty bad, it feels like they are going to break from mid term average use, they really feel awfull to detach and attach back to the device raising concern about the longevity of the joycon ability and the plastic parts and rails attaching it to the device. It does really feel like it's going to break every time you put them in and out.
@@imaginalex5850The longevity of the connectors for the detachable controllers has been my #1 concern and is the main reason ive been hesitant to go for one. Id like to see at the very least a 3 month or 6 month update after the fact of continuous use. Lenovo laptop hinges have been pretty mid for past few years but hopefully since its just one product and the connectors on this is a huge deal, they actually took time to work it out. I just dont want another SD card burning up type of situation that was only found out in the ROG Ally months later
I ran an egpu laptop setup for my first gaming PC but the performance and general instability of it made me built a proper desktop. They have certainly come a long way in the last 4 years. I bet in a couple more years the handheld + egpu combo could be extremely tempting.
one word: Moonlight . Its made by nvidia and is free to use. Stop wasting money on egpus, hide ur pc in a corner and connect to its gpu through internet. You can also send it to sleep after u r done easily, no cables or complexity. There r nice tuts online to set it up PROPERLY. If you do it right it will be much better than any egpu (which are a money grab anyways).
@@Jesus_was_God Jesus is God I agree :>. I think video game streaming is a slightly different issue. In comparison to playing games natively, streaming quality isn't quite as good. If you are competitively gaming streaming games is nearly out of the question. So I think for those who already have a handheld getting an egpu isn't a terrible idea.
If you can find a US English layout Microsoft Universal Foldable keyboard it is the absolute highest quality folding bluetooth keyboard I've ever used. Just keep in mind it is hard to find. Pair that with a kickstand for the Go and you'd have very nice portability
@@user-jx6ct9mk8e my reply was aimed towards the dude that was looking for a keyboard case, which typically are flat keyed membrane keyboards. if i was talking to you you'd have seen the @ followed by your name, as is in this reply
I’m loving using my legion go on my tv with the egpu. A few tips, controller has to be in fps mode to use a different controller. Controller companion is a life saver if you are using this on a television.
For us who moved from a lifetime of PlayStation and this is our first PC ever not just a handheld, can we get a video explaining all the graphics settings and what do we need to change/adjust for general gaming and what’s needed to be changed for certain games to get the best performance out of this over both battery and plugged in? Since because of your enthusiasm and reviews I got one and I love it. But I’m so overwhelmed with how much I need to do/learn just to using it especially coming after 20 years of Sony PS plug n play.
Just purchased this on Droix. Was so happy to see it available. Will be using it on my Legion Go and excited to see the improvements. I play sports games and the increased FPS will be beneficial. Thanks for posting this video!
Thank you Mr Prime. You have broken the chains by bringing up real issues that people shopping are looking at and dock mode is super important and Asus dedicated egpu port I'd like to see the difference.
Have there been driver/software adjustments to USB4? That perf drop is smaller than I'd thought. Sure it's 20% versus what a 4090 in a Desktop with PCIE 4 16x would be in God of War. But it's retaining 80% of the performance with 75% less bandwidth (40gbps = 8GB/s vs the 32GB/s of PCIE 4 16x)
I don't think epgu would have done little to prevent competition. This is a feature that will be used by WAY UNDER 1 percent of users. The fact that you might want to go big geek with your devices doesn't mean that the average consumer has any desire to do that.
This is why I love your videos. And I highly recommend them. Especially the fact you bring out the strengths of the Legion Go without nitpicking every little thing. Knowing the Legion Go is brand new which will only improve and get better overtime like the Rog Ally.
Really wanted to pick up the GPD G1, but then I saw 650-750$ and was shocked. Can't wait to get some competition in that size of eGPU, paying nearly 3x what a 7600xt costs is just insane even for the portability it brings to the table. I probably would have bought it even at $500, but I think it's reasonable to hope we get similar products (with varying tiers of GPU inside) for the 300-600$ range - the G1 7600M XT being closer to that 300 USD range!
Any guy who is deep rooted to retro games to emulations to different configuration of hardware and software definitely knows what to say. THIS IS THE GUY
if only asus would release an eGPU dock that you could put your OWN gpu in instead of the gimped mobile GPUs that cost twice as much for half the performance of its desktop counter part.
@@The0Advent as far as I know there is a bandwidth limitation for non-proprietary eGPU connectors right now which is why we don't have good modular eGPU housings for these handhelds yet. There's always a trade-off
Since the joysticks are detachables, if Lenovo can make (or let other 3rd party OEMs make it) a dedicate keyboard which perfectly fit with this little device, then it could be turning into a gaming + productive 2-in-1 machine easily! Looking forward on that 😊😎
It might be preferable to use USB-C to DisplayPort rather than HDMI. The USB-C video signal is already encapsulated DisplayPort, so it just needs to be "unwrapped" rather than converted to HDMI. I think?
The GPD G1 eGPU seems to work flawless with the Lenovo Legion Go for you. However The Phawx said, there are driver issues that prevent from easily changing between the GPD and the APU. Did you notice anything like that?! Thank you for your effort! phil
Been browsing for a gaming laptop / laptop for upcoming schooling but i think buying this will satisfy my needs and even save me some money... I cant imagine these being cheaper than actual gaming laptops for long
You should do a video showing it can be used as a work computer with dual monitor setup and windows applications a business would use so I can convince my job to get it for me. It would become the new mullet Business during the week party on the weekend.
I am using the ROG Ally as my travel computer with a little dock (from JSAUX). When visiting my girlfriend I use her Monitor plus small Bluetooth Keyboard and Mouse (Logi K380 something). I use VS Code to SSH into the GPU my company's GPU cluster, so I do not run demanding tasks on the Ally. But for Email, Office applications and VS Code the 15W Performance mode is plenty enough. Its absolutely quiet while its super smooth and snappy. I think the Legion GO Should not differ much from that experience. Before that I was using a DELL XPS 16 from 2016. The fans where always noticeable loud (even with super light office work) and it was a bit slower.
eGPU's are not for everyone, all those companies who pay creators to review their units normally tell them not to do a thermal check after treating their device like a desktop. The trick has always been to play games at the most battery-friendly settings so as not to turn the device into a frying pan. The GPD G1 itself is a boiling brick after an hour use.
would you ever do a full video on the gpd with the legion go, it would be nice to see what kinda benchmarks and frames you could get on different games
Love to see a comparison between the Legion Go and the Steam deck's docked performance. I know that obviously the steam deck is worse but I'd be interested to see the price to performance from each device.
there's a lot of Steam Deck videos on TH-cam you can already watch , i still think Steam Deck is better from price to performance standpoint + i don't play many AAA titles , but Lenovo Legion Go is something i would like to support as well instead of ASUS
Nice video mate! My thoughts. $700 handheld with integrated graphics. A used RTX 4090 cost around $2000. Meanwhile my $200 gaming laptop that's 7 years old able to play Cyberpunk 2077 on high at 1080p. And Alan Wake 2 at 1080p on the lowest settings. My video is up if anyone need proof.
this one is a big help for those who has other important priorities in life other than buying a 5k cad budget cpu… so this legion go can be used with the standard keyboard and a standard mouse? tiA maybe they can show us some temperatures how it hold in long periods of gaming? mmorpg gamers dont turn off everything until game maintenance.
Any chance you can do a video showing how to set up the GPD G1 with the legion go? Like what drivers to install, how to set it up so you can see both GPUs like you show in the video, etc. Would be very helpful.
Exactly, I have bought a legion go and connect it with my 2 years old tb3 egpu enclosure but no GPU detected which is not working like in the video. I even uninstall the internal graphic driver and roll the window 11 to window 10 and my gpu can't even detected on the device manager. Well then I buy a gpd g1 and it is directly connected with my legion go but once the legion go link with GPD G1 it just cannot change the 2k resolution to full HD anymore. It also can't connect to my monitor after connecting to GPD G1. Even though it's is connected with the Radeon RX7600XT and I could clearly see it on my task manager and device manager now but the problem is when I launch the game the frame rate is very low and not even exceed 10 FPS which really different with the scenarios shown on the video. TH-camrs who post this video should demonstrate all tutorials regarding this video. You can't treat the video as normal showcase cause there's problems with the viewer which actually follows the information delivered on the video. Many buy the product as shown on the but the device didn't work and how they fixed the purchasing?
@etaprime a couple other TH-camrs mentioned issues with using AMD eGPU’s as the drivers would interfere with the APU drivers. Did you encounter this and how did you get around it?
I would love is Valve made it super easy (maybe even sold) to add an eGPU to the Steam Deck. When im docked, i would love to have some extra performance.
I Own the SteamDeck and im really considering to buy the Legion Go, because the SteamDeck is just to slow, It was a bless, but all the tinkering needed to get AAA Titles to run acceptable is sadly too much. Also the SteamDeck does not have a USB4 Port and you can not use an eGPU.
@@SpartanCE117 its good enough to be your streaming machine from steam link but yeah the cpu is just outdated at this point. 4 cores wont cut it in 2023
At this point, with 35 years of gaming behind me, and with my 10y old desktop looking me up with pity, I'm feeling like a peasant looking at the nobility with envy. But man I am amazed for the current gaming hardware state, that external GPU, those PC consoles... 🤤🤤😅😅
Being a heavily PC user and only gaming on PC, I always wanted a handheld mini PC and the Lgion Go Pro was on my radar but couldn't see myself spending $750 until a sale came through that would be worth it with all the updates release to make it absolutely worth it. So, at the same time I was waiting to see how much the PS5 pro was gonna cost also because I was debating between the PS5 pro or the Legion Go as I already have a powerful desktop and laptop that can run anything easily but wanted to simply either add finally what I think is a great playstation with tech advancement that rivaled the advancement from ps1 to the ps3; or, simply a handheld mini PC that can do it all. Then the PS5 Pro announcement came through and we all realized that the PS5 Pro isn't worth it, then, Leveno secretly swooped in and gave their legions go Pro a sale to steal the market before Sony release their Ps5 Pro because they realize the PS5 Pro isnt that impressive either and there are people like me waiting for either one. Legion Go Pro 1 TB just went on sale and I just saved a $100 and decided to just do it. So the Legion go is just as impressive as the PS5 and PS5 pro and cheaper than the PS5 pro and can also be a mini PC. As a PC user and gamer, the Legion Go is the best handheld in the market with AMD's updates of FSR 3 with frame generations along with Levono's updates to ensure the best butter smoothe experience with the Legion Go. For PC, I only get intel and Nvidia but for handheld, nothing beats AMD (at the moment) but I think that is where AMD wants to increase its market share, which is a smart move. Take it where it counts as they knew Intel and Nvidia has none. I can't wait to fully push the Lenevo Legion Go Pro to its full capabilities and it is the jack of all trades that PC users have been waiting for. Go get yourself one as they're on sale right now.
tbh, considering prices in my country, gpd g1 and lenovo legion go cost ~750$ both (1500$ in total). its actually almost the same price for lenovo legion slim 5 with rtx 4060. The only thing left - monitor xD. Anyway pretty considerable option regardless
ever since Rasberry Pi compute module 4 release they are 30 usd and run off the 50 usd gaming laptop powersupply. You don'y have to buy full case with full desktop power supply and management board for 300 USD. All those are tunderbolt 2 era hardware from 6y ago.
I honestly would love a handheld gaming pc and egpu set up. My only concern is the longevity of the combo. I’d be really sad spending all that money for the pair just to have it only last two or three years before I can’t even handle games at 30 fps💀
Really nice test man! 👍🏼👍🏼 you should note that the 40 gibt’s usbc 4.0 speed is impaired if you use the cable for charging at the same time. It is often the case that the full speed cannot be reached when charging at the same time. With TB4, this is not a problem because there are also restrictions on cable length here and the cables must also be certified. With USBC, I’m not quite sure if this is really feasible. so if you have time, test it with a second USB C cable that is only used for charging. Try not to enable a charge with the first USB C cable, to which the video interface is connected. And try to stay at a maximum cable length of 70 cm. Use an TB4 Cable. Do not connect anything else on the egpu usb ports. Disable the internal Display. This allows us to prevent a bandwidth limit of the USBC connection. 👍🏼👌🏼🤝🏼
Can you do an eGPU setup comparison of Legion GO vs Ally with XGM? It seems Legion GO is more seamless with the eGPU, similar to the switch. Ally is clunky with activation deactivation of XGM
I would love to see one of these x86 handheld's with with 780m have a OCUlink for eGPU so I could use it at home as a 4K machine but had the portability that I could take my games on the go in handheld mode, but dock at home as a full workstation. I would use Fedora or Suse Aoen micro as Gnome on a 1080p screen is perfect and fedora run steam for gaming.
I connected the GPD G1 card to the Lenovo Legion Go, but the PC isn't being charged by the card. I noticed in your test, the card didn't provide charge to the Legion Go either. Have you happened to find a solution?
Dude this is so clean. I need someone to switch their desktop setup to this full time, and let me know if they have issues similar to the Asus rog ally. (Is it a fairly easy experience, or does it glitch out a lot and have trouble connecting to the eGPU). I am very seriously considering switching to this full time.
I’m doing that exactly with a 3080ti. I dock to play big AAA at 1440p high/ultra hdr and undock for my lighter games to use in bed etc, use for excel word and outlook also no issues.
How is the docking and undocking experience with the eGPU. Is it mostly seemless? or is there a bit of stuffing around to get it working every time. @@Dorfdad
Love the video!! Great as always. With thunderbolt 5 around the corner promising up to 2x the egpu bandwidth. Would that be enough to run the 4090 at full tilt or are we a ways away from that?
The setup for the water cooled 4090 is interesting, you said it's a razer core? Do you have any videos on how you modified that platform? I have an old watercooled GPU laying around and would love to get it running in an eGPU setup for the Go!
in my experience playing cyberpunk on the Go, Ill run it at high settings (a few things set to medium) with FSR on auto, and 1280x800 and itll still get a respectable 55-65 FPS.whats weird is if I set the FSR manually to say performance or ultra performance, the FPS dips down to the 40s, but auto works much better, and looks better too, keep RSR off though as it just looks fuzzy and bad.
ETA: “I know this looks like overkill, but I’m going to hook this up to a nuclear submarine and see what kind of fps we can get, keeping in mind the usb bottleneck” 😂
Every time I see an eGPU setup I think it looks sort of cool. Then you see the prices on the eGPU is about the same or more than a full laptop.
My hangup on it is I like that we can hook up an egpu. But the fact that at the moment it's an actual necesity in order to get acceptable performance out of it kind of ruins the whole portable part of the experience. And yes, I know the upcoming tweaks will help. Just still kind of annoyed that we're being used as paying beta testers because they rushed this thing out instead of waiting another month or two.
Clearly it is, buying a gaming laptop is the best way to not waste money instead of adding all these extended graphics cards to this device imo
You have the SWITCH combo here. eGPU for couch gaming then unplugged and take the Lenovo on the Go. You will not need to upgrade that eGPU if a New Legion Go comes out. A Laptop is a good gaming and PC replacement but the mobility to play on the go plus terrible batteries 🪫 are not suitable.
I think this is great cuz Now if you buy a laptop, you can get whatever you like and keep your gaming on the Legion go. The Macbook Pros have great batteries life vs Windows laptops and you can travel with both the Macbook and the Legion Go. BEFORE i always needed a laptop that could do both things so i got a Razerblade. But now there is really no need for that.
Short-sighted though.
Yes, this isn't cheap. But;
A gaming laptop with an RTX 4070 will cost about £1700.
A Legion Go will cost £700, the 4070 £570 and an eGPU probably about £300. So not dissimilar in price point.
But the eGPU with a 4070 will probably outperform the laptop somewhat, but that's not the real benefit.
The real benefit comes from that in a couple of years, you could then upgrade the RTX 4070 to an RTX 5070 for the same £580 or so and get all the performance that comes from that upgrade.
Whereas with a laptop, you'll need to buy a whole new laptop.
That is when you realize that PC gaming is more akin to Tom & Jerry and not actual gaming. That is no different than trying to squeeze so much power out of a car that it's undrivable everyday even with mundane task like a grocery run.
If you put the emulation instructions video I'll definitely will view it lol ! You the reason I have a dope arcade machine ! Since 2020 I've been learning from you man ! Keep it up ! Much love 👾💯
This is why I went with a Windows handheld. I use my Ally as a mini PC and HTPC just as much as a gaming handheld.
I just put windows on my steam deck, treating it like every other pc I’ve used for the last ten years
to be fair Linux isn't why eGPU isn't supported on Steam Deck , its the lack of Thunderbolt/USB4 ports
Steam Deck 2 will more than likely have said ports. eGPU is supported by Arch Linux already.
But the Asus Ally is locked/limited to only using their external graphic cards, that are kinda hard to find in stock and when the 2-3 alternatives of Egpu for Asus is available to buy they are really expensive. If I understand it correctly the Legion Go does have a universal USB4/Thunderbolt so you can connect whatever graphic card you want ? Even though Asus own connection port is probably faster you could buy a RTX 3070 for 550$ and connect to the Legion Go or am I wrong ? I just recently heard about the Legion Go so I have not studied everything about it yet.
But to have a handheld unit I can play in my bed before going to sleep like a Nintendo Switch, and then take it to my friends house at weekends and connect it to a monitor, gaming mouse&keyboard and an external graphic card and play Battlefield 5 in 1440P with good FPS sounds amazing
@@mathias6423there's an official adapters, and my understanding is the performance of the Allys port is a decent boost versus USB 4
I'd like to see Lenovo release a grip for the controllers, so you could just have the screen hooked up to a larger display and game from the couch. Something like the Nintendo Joycon comfort grip.
Bet someone will start 3D printing some soon !
the controllers are pretty bad attachment wise, they need a weird amount of force on their plastic rails to detach and it's pretty bad, it feels like they are going to break from mid term average use, they really feel awfull to detach and attach back to the device raising concern about the longevity of the joycon ability and the plastic parts and rails attaching it to the device. It does really feel like it's going to break every time you put them in and out.
That would be fire
@@imaginalex5850The longevity of the connectors for the detachable controllers has been my #1 concern and is the main reason ive been hesitant to go for one. Id like to see at the very least a 3 month or 6 month update after the fact of continuous use. Lenovo laptop hinges have been pretty mid for past few years but hopefully since its just one product and the connectors on this is a huge deal, they actually took time to work it out. I just dont want another SD card burning up type of situation that was only found out in the ROG Ally months later
You can literally use like 90% of controllers out there on this thing and you want joycons?
I ran an egpu laptop setup for my first gaming PC but the performance and general instability of it made me built a proper desktop. They have certainly come a long way in the last 4 years. I bet in a couple more years the handheld + egpu combo could be extremely tempting.
one word: Moonlight . Its made by nvidia and is free to use. Stop wasting money on egpus, hide ur pc in a corner and connect to its gpu through internet. You can also send it to sleep after u r done easily, no cables or complexity. There r nice tuts online to set it up PROPERLY. If you do it right it will be much better than any egpu (which are a money grab anyways).
@@Jesus_was_God Jesus is God I agree :>. I think video game streaming is a slightly different issue. In comparison to playing games natively, streaming quality isn't quite as good. If you are competitively gaming streaming games is nearly out of the question. So I think for those who already have a handheld getting an egpu isn't a terrible idea.
@@lulunu8440 u r right, i will change it :D
I'm planning to use this as a mini laptop. Hope someone make a keyboard case, it would be splendid.
If you can find a US English layout Microsoft Universal Foldable keyboard it is the absolute highest quality folding bluetooth keyboard I've ever used. Just keep in mind it is hard to find. Pair that with a kickstand for the Go and you'd have very nice portability
If it had a keyboard like the one on Onexplayer 2 pro would be awesome, hope some company do this.
@@user-jx6ct9mk8e my reply was aimed towards the dude that was looking for a keyboard case, which typically are flat keyed membrane keyboards. if i was talking to you you'd have seen the @ followed by your name, as is in this reply
I’m going to do the same. I have to many laptops
I would also like to get this,instead of a pc,because of rust,but a pc with the same specs are 2 times the price in my country
I’m loving using my legion go on my tv with the egpu. A few tips, controller has to be in fps mode to use a different controller. Controller companion is a life saver if you are using this on a television.
For us who moved from a lifetime of PlayStation and this is our first PC ever not just a handheld, can we get a video explaining all the graphics settings and what do we need to change/adjust for general gaming and what’s needed to be changed for certain games to get the best performance out of this over both battery and plugged in? Since because of your enthusiasm and reviews I got one and I love it. But I’m so overwhelmed with how much I need to do/learn just to using it especially coming after 20 years of Sony PS plug n play.
Your videos are always top notch. Thanks for the video.
Just purchased this on Droix. Was so happy to see it available. Will be using it on my Legion Go and excited to see the improvements. I play sports games and the increased FPS will be beneficial. Thanks for posting this video!
It's been 2 months since your purchase claim. Are you still satisfied with the combo?
This is exactly why I want a legion go. To have the absolute minimal setup possible.
Me excatcly the same.
@@mikevegas87 I'm loving mine! Want to learn more about the egpu addition for a perfect set up.
eta prime covering his face up with his hand at 3:02 was hilarious
Thank you Mr Prime. You have broken the chains by bringing up real issues that people shopping are looking at and dock mode is super important and Asus dedicated egpu port I'd like to see the difference.
Have there been driver/software adjustments to USB4? That perf drop is smaller than I'd thought. Sure it's 20% versus what a 4090 in a Desktop with PCIE 4 16x would be in God of War. But it's retaining 80% of the performance with 75% less bandwidth (40gbps = 8GB/s vs the 32GB/s of PCIE 4 16x)
Thanks! This is the setup I have coming. I just ordered the GPD G1 and am still waiting on the Legion.
Might do the same. Looking like the only handheld that's egpu friendly that's a decent brand
wow, this is brilliant. if only the steamdeck had egpu out of the gate nobody else would be in the game.
I don't think epgu would have done little to prevent competition. This is a feature that will be used by WAY UNDER 1 percent of users. The fact that you might want to go big geek with your devices doesn't mean that the average consumer has any desire to do that.
Maybe Steam is purposely doing that so they won't be accused for monopoly.
Wow. This is a beast of a machine. Way,way better then theu steamdeck and not that expensive of an upgrade if you have the top tier SD.
This is why I love your videos. And I highly recommend them. Especially the fact you bring out the strengths of the Legion Go without nitpicking every little thing. Knowing the Legion Go is brand new which will only improve and get better overtime like the Rog Ally.
Really wanted to pick up the GPD G1, but then I saw 650-750$ and was shocked. Can't wait to get some competition in that size of eGPU, paying nearly 3x what a 7600xt costs is just insane even for the portability it brings to the table.
I probably would have bought it even at $500, but I think it's reasonable to hope we get similar products (with varying tiers of GPU inside) for the 300-600$ range - the G1 7600M XT being closer to that 300 USD range!
Considering Asus is charging $1000-2000 for their EGPUs. $650 is actually a good deal
It’s more than the GPU but the GPU plus an enclosure to make it a GPU isn’t far off. Then they build in other niceties. Price makes sense.
POWERFUL!!!!!! POWERFUL POWERFUL! Favorite word to use in your title.
Any guy who is deep rooted to retro games to emulations to different configuration of hardware and software definitely knows what to say. THIS IS THE GUY
Hmmm, I have an old steam deck and a GTX 1080 collecting dust, my nephew wants a pc, this video gave me a few ideas.
Your technical knowledge is on another level @ETA. Thanks for making this video I really do appreciate your channel :)
Regards Neil (United Kingdom)
interested to see a head-on comparison vs ROG ALLY, both with external RTX4090
if only asus would release an eGPU dock that you could put your OWN gpu in instead of the gimped mobile GPUs that cost twice as much for half the performance of its desktop counter part.
@@The0Advent as far as I know there is a bandwidth limitation for non-proprietary eGPU connectors right now which is why we don't have good modular eGPU housings for these handhelds yet. There's always a trade-off
@@The0AdventROG Ally X allows it now.
"Now it might look like a monster, cause it is" that really made me feel like you can read our minds
Since the joysticks are detachables, if Lenovo can make (or let other 3rd party OEMs make it) a dedicate keyboard which perfectly fit with this little device, then it could be turning into a gaming + productive 2-in-1 machine easily! Looking forward on that 😊😎
Just use a bluetooth keyboard with a dock. Easy.
It might be preferable to use USB-C to DisplayPort rather than HDMI. The USB-C video signal is already encapsulated DisplayPort, so it just needs to be "unwrapped" rather than converted to HDMI. I think?
The GPD G1 eGPU seems to work flawless with the Lenovo Legion Go for you. However The Phawx said, there are driver issues that prevent from easily changing between the GPD and the APU. Did you notice anything like that?! Thank you for your effort! phil
Would like to know too
Cant believe you filmed this video using a Pixel 8 Pro. Damn good sir!
Been browsing for a gaming laptop / laptop for upcoming schooling but i think buying this will satisfy my needs and even save me some money... I cant imagine these being cheaper than actual gaming laptops for long
So excited for the emulators showcase!
You should do a video showing it can be used as a work computer with dual monitor setup and windows applications a business would use so I can convince my job to get it for me. It would become the new mullet Business during the week party on the weekend.
I am using the ROG Ally as my travel computer with a little dock (from JSAUX). When visiting my girlfriend I use her Monitor plus small Bluetooth Keyboard and Mouse (Logi K380 something).
I use VS Code to SSH into the GPU my company's GPU cluster, so I do not run demanding tasks on the Ally. But for Email, Office applications and VS Code the 15W Performance mode is plenty enough. Its absolutely quiet while its super smooth and snappy. I think the Legion GO Should not differ much from that experience.
Before that I was using a DELL XPS 16 from 2016. The fans where always noticeable loud (even with super light office work) and it was a bit slower.
It’s going to behave like any other pc connected to two monitors
With both devices might as well buy a gaming laptop eGPU prices are insane lol.
Egpu is worth it tho. Think about it
eGPU's are not for everyone, all those companies who pay creators to review their units normally tell them not to do a thermal check after treating their device like a desktop. The trick has always been to play games at the most battery-friendly settings so as not to turn the device into a frying pan. The GPD G1 itself is a boiling brick after an hour use.
I want this setup with the legion go and the gpd g1, Seems like the best of both worlds. Good Video!
Solid content, this is 100% what I'm looking for 👍
Great video, would love to see the Legion Go paired with the ADLINK Pocket AI and see how that performs.
That keyboard is sick. Wish I knew what brand and model it is?
would you ever do a full video on the gpd with the legion go, it would be nice to see what kinda benchmarks and frames you could get on different games
Pretty cool display, +the G1 egpu
Love to see a comparison between the Legion Go and the Steam deck's docked performance. I know that obviously the steam deck is worse but I'd be interested to see the price to performance from each device.
You like watching the steam deck get beat up
@@mackw919he is more interested in seeing how the Steam Deck can hold up against its newest opponent
there's a lot of Steam Deck videos on TH-cam you can already watch , i still think Steam Deck is better from price to performance standpoint + i don't play many AAA titles , but Lenovo Legion Go is something i would like to support as well instead of ASUS
What keyboard is that? The key caps are amazing. I know I can't afford one but it would be in my purchase bucket list.❤
Thanks a Million
I was waiting for eGPU test
And you made the the exact one I'm looking for (GPD G1)
you never fail to deliver & on the spot
Nice video mate! My thoughts.
$700 handheld with integrated graphics.
A used RTX 4090 cost around $2000.
Meanwhile my $200 gaming laptop that's 7 years old able to play Cyberpunk 2077 on high at 1080p. And Alan Wake 2 at 1080p on the lowest settings.
My video is up if anyone need proof.
I'm really excited for TB5, ill then finally invest in a handheld. Whichever is the next gen in handheld, paired with an egpu will be my main setup.
The legion is the tablet I always wanted
this one is a big help for those who has other important priorities in life other than buying a 5k cad budget cpu… so this legion go can be used with the standard keyboard and a standard mouse? tiA maybe they can show us some temperatures how it hold in long periods of gaming? mmorpg gamers dont turn off everything until game maintenance.
I have a great mini pcs....thats why I love eta prime....he always make me happy thats for your effort..
Would love to see the gpd g1 tests using usb handheld mode...
Been tempted to get one for a while, hopefully they're not a ballache to get hold of
What keyboard is that. The color scheme is awesome.
That's unimaginable for me in my 20s back then 20 years ago)
Any chance you can do a video showing how to set up the GPD G1 with the legion go? Like what drivers to install, how to set it up so you can see both GPUs like you show in the video, etc. Would be very helpful.
Exactly, I have bought a legion go and connect it with my 2 years old tb3 egpu enclosure but no GPU detected which is not working like in the video. I even uninstall the internal graphic driver and roll the window 11 to window 10 and my gpu can't even detected on the device manager. Well then I buy a gpd g1 and it is directly connected with my legion go but once the legion go link with GPD G1 it just cannot change the 2k resolution to full HD anymore. It also can't connect to my monitor after connecting to GPD G1. Even though it's is connected with the Radeon RX7600XT and I could clearly see it on my task manager and device manager now but the problem is when I launch the game the frame rate is very low and not even exceed 10 FPS which really different with the scenarios shown on the video. TH-camrs who post this video should demonstrate all tutorials regarding this video. You can't treat the video as normal showcase cause there's problems with the viewer which actually follows the information delivered on the video. Many buy the product as shown on the but the device didn't work and how they fixed the purchasing?
I had similar problems with my thunderbolt 4 dock with 3060. I had to change windows 11 to canary build in the Windows settings.
Woot woot! Almost Oculink time!
What keyboard is that? Very cool looking!
@etaprime a couple other TH-camrs mentioned issues with using AMD eGPU’s as the drivers would interfere with the APU drivers. Did you encounter this and how did you get around it?
I would love is Valve made it super easy (maybe even sold) to add an eGPU to the Steam Deck. When im docked, i would love to have some extra performance.
The decks cpu is awful for any desktop gpu
@@acwbit2368I won't say awful, but it is 100% not enough to do eGPU.
I Own the SteamDeck and im really considering to buy the Legion Go, because the SteamDeck is just to slow, It was a bless, but all the tinkering needed to get AAA Titles to run acceptable is sadly too much. Also the SteamDeck does not have a USB4 Port and you can not use an eGPU.
@@SpartanCE117 its good enough to be your streaming machine from steam link but yeah the cpu is just outdated at this point. 4 cores wont cut it in 2023
I really like you're video! Thanks
At this point, with 35 years of gaming behind me, and with my 10y old desktop looking me up with pity, I'm feeling like a peasant looking at the nobility with envy. But man I am amazed for the current gaming hardware state, that external GPU, those PC consoles... 🤤🤤😅😅
Absolutely Fantastic Review and explanation Cheers 😊😊😊
where did you get your Keyboard? I really like it
Yeees, i ve been waiting for this
Nice keyboard! What is it? This video definitely has me considering a Legion Go + eGPU set up
awesome. THIS was the video i wanted to see.
Couldn't you do 1440p and 4k just connecting the ROG Ally without an eGPU? Why didn't you test this one?
Lenovo has just sniffed out a new market, making eGPU for their Legion Go 😂
Looks really good! Just wish it had a left handed option.
Being a heavily PC user and only gaming on PC, I always wanted a handheld mini PC and the Lgion Go Pro was on my radar but couldn't see myself spending $750 until a sale came through that would be worth it with all the updates release to make it absolutely worth it. So, at the same time I was waiting to see how much the PS5 pro was gonna cost also because I was debating between the PS5 pro or the Legion Go as I already have a powerful desktop and laptop that can run anything easily but wanted to simply either add finally what I think is a great playstation with tech advancement that rivaled the advancement from ps1 to the ps3; or, simply a handheld mini PC that can do it all. Then the PS5 Pro announcement came through and we all realized that the PS5 Pro isn't worth it, then, Leveno secretly swooped in and gave their legions go Pro a sale to steal the market before Sony release their Ps5 Pro because they realize the PS5 Pro isnt that impressive either and there are people like me waiting for either one. Legion Go Pro 1 TB just went on sale and I just saved a $100 and decided to just do it. So the Legion go is just as impressive as the PS5 and PS5 pro and cheaper than the PS5 pro and can also be a mini PC. As a PC user and gamer, the Legion Go is the best handheld in the market with AMD's updates of FSR 3 with frame generations along with Levono's updates to ensure the best butter smoothe experience with the Legion Go. For PC, I only get intel and Nvidia but for handheld, nothing beats AMD (at the moment) but I think that is where AMD wants to increase its market share, which is a smart move. Take it where it counts as they knew Intel and Nvidia has none.
I can't wait to fully push the Lenevo Legion Go Pro to its full capabilities and it is the jack of all trades that PC users have been waiting for. Go get yourself one as they're on sale right now.
tbh, considering prices in my country, gpd g1 and lenovo legion go cost ~750$ both (1500$ in total). its actually almost the same price for lenovo legion slim 5 with rtx 4060. The only thing left - monitor xD.
Anyway pretty considerable option regardless
Liked and subscribed. This video showed everything we need to know. Thanx, Eta Prime!
Those external GPU docks are so ridiculously expensive that it's not worth bothering IMO.
ever since Rasberry Pi compute module 4 release they are 30 usd and run off the 50 usd gaming laptop powersupply.
You don'y have to buy full case with full desktop power supply and management board for 300 USD. All those are tunderbolt 2 era hardware from 6y ago.
I honestly would love a handheld gaming pc and egpu set up. My only concern is the longevity of the combo. I’d be really sad spending all that money for the pair just to have it only last two or three years before I can’t even handle games at 30 fps💀
I really like the combo of the handheld PC with the eGPU, if only both weren't so prohibitively expensive in Australia 😭
Great review ETA, you always deliver. Now I need to buy one lol
Really nice test man! 👍🏼👍🏼 you should note that the 40 gibt’s usbc 4.0 speed is impaired if you use the cable for charging at the same time. It is often the case that the full speed cannot be reached when charging at the same time. With TB4, this is not a problem because there are also restrictions on cable length here and the cables must also be certified. With USBC, I’m not quite sure if this is really feasible. so if you have time, test it with a second USB C cable that is only used for charging. Try not to enable a charge with the first USB C cable, to which the video interface is connected. And try to stay at a maximum cable length of 70 cm. Use an TB4 Cable. Do not connect anything else on the egpu usb ports. Disable the internal Display. This allows us to prevent a bandwidth limit of the USBC connection. 👍🏼👌🏼🤝🏼
Can you do an eGPU setup comparison of Legion GO vs Ally with XGM? It seems Legion GO is more seamless with the eGPU, similar to the switch. Ally is clunky with activation deactivation of XGM
waiting for the emulation test video
Great vid 👍
Listening to your voice reminds me of Forrest Gump!
Day 1 buy.
Best channel in the game!
Looks fine af😮
I would like to see how it goes on a large tv without an egpu please.
if the handheld uses AMD you can show the 2k and 4k resolution options by enabling VSR
from AMD software
Nice review. Could you test a microSD installation to let M2 port free for e-Graphic card connection? Thanks in advance
I would love to see one of these x86 handheld's with with 780m have a OCUlink for eGPU so I could use it at home as a 4K machine but had the portability that I could take my games on the go in handheld mode, but dock at home as a full workstation. I would use Fedora or Suse Aoen micro as Gnome on a 1080p screen is perfect and fedora run steam for gaming.
I connected the GPD G1 card to the Lenovo Legion Go, but the PC isn't being charged by the card. I noticed in your test, the card didn't provide charge to the Legion Go either. Have you happened to find a solution?
Definitely getting one 💯 %
Interesting. I have a 4k 144hz monitor. So I can hook up my legion go to that. Dope
wow awesome thanks for testing
Dude this is so clean. I need someone to switch their desktop setup to this full time, and let me know if they have issues similar to the Asus rog ally. (Is it a fairly easy experience, or does it glitch out a lot and have trouble connecting to the eGPU). I am very seriously considering switching to this full time.
I’m doing that exactly with a 3080ti. I dock to play big AAA at 1440p high/ultra hdr and undock for my lighter games to use in bed etc, use for excel word and outlook also no issues.
How is the docking and undocking experience with the eGPU. Is it mostly seemless? or is there a bit of stuffing around to get it working every time. @@Dorfdad
Honestly they should add a fan and GPU to a power adapter, that would be super useful.
Love the video!! Great as always. With thunderbolt 5 around the corner promising up to 2x the egpu bandwidth. Would that be enough to run the 4090 at full tilt or are we a ways away from that?
You'll likely be bottlenecked by the CPU anyway, so not worth it.
In my country, GPD G1 eGPU price is equal to one full Proper PC with RX 7600
Where do you get your live wallpapers from? I watch all your videos and your live wallpapers are sick I need those in my life.
The setup for the water cooled 4090 is interesting, you said it's a razer core? Do you have any videos on how you modified that platform? I have an old watercooled GPU laying around and would love to get it running in an eGPU setup for the Go!
buying this to play Elden Ring with all MAX settings! :D
Yall are magicians.
in my experience playing cyberpunk on the Go, Ill run it at high settings (a few things set to medium) with FSR on auto, and 1280x800 and itll still get a respectable 55-65 FPS.whats weird is if I set the FSR manually to say performance or ultra performance, the FPS dips down to the 40s, but auto works much better, and looks better too, keep RSR off though as it just looks fuzzy and bad.
ETA: “I know this looks like overkill, but I’m going to hook this up to a nuclear submarine and see what kind of fps we can get, keeping in mind the usb bottleneck” 😂
I was onboard until I learned the ENCLOSURE costs $500.
Not the device, not the GPU -- just the thing which holds the GPU. Crazy.