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Just wanted to thank you for your corvette content. It’s been educating and been keeping me entertained while I wait for my C8. Hope to get it delivered sometime in January.
Before considering the CF wheels, check out how much they cost to replace, just in case. People who put the CF wheels on the Shelby GT500 were shocked to find that the replacements are on permanent back order and they are over $17,000 EACH!! Yeah...shocked me too.
I've had a deposit down on this C8 Z06 for over 7 months, there is too much speculation behind this car and the future models. GM needs to hurry up and release this car so people can either purchase it or move on to other options.
I’ve been debating on putting a deposit down but would have to find a dealer with good allocation. I’ve heard most dealers are looking for at least $1,000 non refundable.
@@repz0611 I have 2 deposits down at 2 of our biggest dealers. One is refundable and the other is subject to a certain price, meaning when the car is revealed if the base price exceeds what we agreed on in writing I can walk away. At the end of the day it's only 1,000.00 it wouldn't be the end of the world if you couldn't get the money back. Any decent dealer would want to avoid bad press should the deal not work out, it could cost them a lot more than a 1,000.00.
Same... waiting 6 months. Deposit refundable at a top notch volume dealer and near the top on the list. Just give me the exotic sound FP or not, but it needs to make serous HP and not explode. FP is great. Please don’t make them like the “other” American company with the “air cooled” see through blocks. Copy Ferrari. Lower the displacement and twin turbo it. Keep the same comfort adjustments on suspension, same levels of choice on the interior, as they nailed that. Agreed on the zero info from Chevy, I can wait but yes... start giving us details of what and when. It’s getting old.
@@danielfair4675 It's actually 1,000.00 just to put your name on a list, once the car is revealed they will require an additional 4,000.00 to seal the deal and it's non refundable at that time.
@@HorsePowerObsessed there is absolutely performance gained with CF wheels, way beyond unsprung weight. Find the article by Billy Johnson about CF wheels and all they offer from a performance standpoint. Yeah, if it’s only going to be a street car, okay, but if it’s ever going to see a track or you enjoy spirited driving, get the CF wheels.
Significant. My friend has a 720S Mcl, and driving it with the OEM wheels and then with his carbon fiber rims was a world of difference to me. That is why I was going to get them on a C8 Z06 without regard for pricing. And as an aside. He did bend one and had to pony up huge dollars.
@@mustangtony2933 by then it will be cracked its literally 2 years away remember the c7 zr1 it took a few years turning wasn't available until 2018 or 2019 cause of the unlocking issues as well
I think the twin-turbo V8 will be saved for the ZR1. 850 HP is my guess. That would be enough for me. I wouldn't fret about the unlocking. You've got a car with more performance than 99.9% of drivers can really use, and it has a warranty, why mess with it?
If I'm buying this car to keep it for life or if it was a collector car, I would buy the carbon fiber wheels take them off store them away and put other lite weight metal rim.. carbon fiber rims are beautiful but you have to take them off you cannot use them for daily use.. only if you're going to use them for car show events, now I will say if you're swimming in money then do whatever you need to do with carbon fiber Drive the hell out of them.
Talked to a certain someone who works at Chevy, car will have the engine from the c8 R more or less, he said it’s super similar to the race car. Get hyped
Forged magnesium Wheels can be almost as light weight and stronger than Carbon Fiber Wheels. I believe magnesium or light weight forged aluminum GM will offer for a little more money over standard wheels for Z06 or ZR1
I'm all in for TT. With high compression NA motor will have to be heavily modified for boosted high hp builds we all want to see in next few years. Having a tutbo car from the get go would be awesome.
5.5 fpc. / 600 hp. 8 spd.N/A. My sister in law is involved with R&D. She was saying it’s going to rev up to 9000 rpm. Totally focused on track performance. No Turbocharger due to the fact of predictably of engine response. I.E. they don’t want turbo lag.
Give me a TT version of a Z06 any day! Why are people so concerned about going back to roots? I mean - GM is already hinting future Corvettes will be hybrid or electric; so what’s the point of returning to “roots” for 1 generation? I want a V8, I want turbos, and I want some decently high revs (happy with 8k redline)!
The people voting for N/A make up about 2% of the population that would actually road race this car. The other 98% will use it on the street where it would need the added hp for roll racing and half mile events. GM is not going to make a car to cater to 2% of it's buyers, that would be suicide. You also need to realize that the demographic for this car has changed, it used to be an old man's car. Now with the design and bold new colors it will appeal to younger buyers as well, and that's a hard pill to swallow for these old time enthusiasts. GM needs to look into the future and not the past, no one needs to fit 2 sets of golf clubs or luggage in the back. This car should only be used as a toy drive your pickup to the airport or golf course.
As a 018 GT350R owner .. I’m still undecided about the glorious sounding FPC V8. I’ve had no problems with mine (it’s not a daily) but I’ve heard others horror stories. As for the CF wheels, I’ve never driven on them ... I switched them out at the dealer with a replacement set the day I took delivery of my car. I have a friend that damaged a wheel on a curb and replacing it wasn’t pretty. So handle with extreme care if you go with that option. What you should say “NO!” to is the Dominic Toretto Wing option 🤣🤣🤣
If you want strong and light weight wheels, there companies who do custom CNC from a block of forged aluminum.. Beautiful designs, perfect shape (circle), very strong and light. Or you couldgo titanium wheels, but more expensive. On my previous Z06, I bought the forged aluminum with tires from a vendor and the total was $8,000. Best investment I made as it made a huge difference in the feel of driving compared to stock wheels and tires. And when I sold my Z06, I sold the 4 wheels alone (as the tires were worn out) for $6,000 and got my money back.
Very good recommendation on the CF wheels. No doubt you'd destroy them on the bad Roads here in Colorado. So far I've bent one wheel on my Z06 in the past 4 years since moving here from Houston. As far as the discussion I had with you on the C8Z06 being NA FP crank or TT FP crank , I've seen no new info or arguments on the Corvette Forum either way. After much thought about the subject and reading others thoughts I believe GM must equal or exceed the C7 ZR1 HP of 755 as they did with the C6ZR1 638 HP > C7Z06 650 HP. So I'm expecting C8 Z06 to be 750-775 HP TT FP crank.. If not it will disappoint me and a lot of other potential buyers. If it is a NA FP crank 600HP engine, I may have to sell my C7 Z06 and go back to a C7 ZR1 LOL!
One pothole OR bump and you can kiss goodbye the thousands you spent on something that is ONLY INCREMENTALLY BETTER THAN ALLOY WHEEL'S IN THE BIG PICTURE!!
I have a neighbor who has a Shelby Mustang 500...with carbon fiber wheels...they do look really good. That being said, I live in So Cal and the pot holes on the freeways and surface streets would make ordering those an absolute no. I am anxiously awaiting the release of the Z06...should be something special for sure! Nice video 👍🏻
I have heard about high performance alloy wheel rims getting damaged on high performance cars when pot holes are struck, because on these high performance tires there is very little distance between the wheel rim and the road. Because carbon fiber wheel rims are more likely to break than alloy wheel rims, it sure sounds like carbon fiber wheel rims are not suitable for regular street use.
So I bought Strasse carbon fiber wheels for my ZR1 but they are metal CF rapped they look amazing and have the strength needed for that car. I was afraid of the solid CF. It is an option people might consider if the want the look.
If I was going for the lightest possible optioned C8 z06, than I would do the carbon wheels BUT that is only if I just let it sit in my garage and drive it only every once in a few months but if I would drive it all the time, than no carbon wheels
My guess, they do the flat plane for 1-3 years and then change the platform to the twin turbo. Flat plane crank would be a new GM production engine design and need a little time for reliability to settle in. My guess would be they do the flat plane for 1-3 years, then add or change it to twin turbo after a couple years. They have to fight against the Dodge Hellcat and other platform performance issues so turbo is very likely to come fairly quickly. However, they have to compete with the Mustang performance issues with their flat plan crank so I see that as a more direct and immediate market competition issue.
Like you, I like the idea of CF wheels, but I will not take that risk when I order the Z06. I will be getting mine approximately one year into production, so I will have decent insight into all the options. I will be tracking the Z06 and I am looking forward to hopefully a superior track car.
I own a wheel repair business. We do not work on carbon fiber wheels, it’s a whole different animal. That said, CF wheels will not get “out of round” like an aluminum wheel, it will just break/crack.
If you can afford it, go for a good set of Forged Aluminum Wheels, and that'd be fine for most people, ditto brakes. Carbon Ceramic brakes cost what 25k on the c7 z06, they cost when you replace them. A good set of steel brakes work just as well, and don't cost anywhere near as much
As for the carbon fiber wheel option, I would only have them on a Corvette when presenting a C8 at an auto show, be it for competition for appearance or not. I would only trust a carbon fiber wheel if the facing was a carbon fiber wrap around an aluminum core. Also, I own a C7 Z51 and, aside from curb-rash, I have had to replace only one of the wheels, which is of the split spoke design; however, this was due to running over a rock the side of a grapefruit while changing lanes on the highway at 75 mph.
I wonder what the cost would be. I also wonder if GM might road test the carbon fiber for durability and at least give a warning about what to expect like "off road use only recommended". I like the look it you were going for other carbon fiber options.
I too will be a 1st time Corvette Owner and Seriously thinking of purchasing the.C8 Base Model. *Personally My Track Days Are Over. Just No Need for $$CF Wheels$$ for my personal driving preferences. *Good Blessings to You and Your C8 Car.
I personally love the concave flowing design of these carbon fiber wheels, I believe they would look great on Z06 considering they're 21x13 in the rear
Only if the CF wheels carry the same warranty as the car itself or they offer you an option to purchase a road hazard warranty as a reasonably priced option.
Egress in & out of this car is difficult at best for us bigger and older folks and we're the ones who can afford the car and ins. and maint.,storage etc.
I would not add the option for carbon fiber wheels. I!m a retired daily driver. I want the reliability of a metallic made wheel. I own a 2018 z06 with steel wheels and I love it. I will have a 2022 on order as soon as they open the orders for the dealers. What every you get enjoy, have fun and be careful.
I read an article on the new GordonMurray T50 and he chose not to offer carbon fiber wheels on the car because of the tendency for “catastrophic failure”
It won’t be 5.2 liters unless it is turbocharged. You can’t possibly get enough torque out of 5.2 liter normally aspirated engine. It just isn’t physically possible. It will be either a 5.2 liter boosted engine or a 5.5 liter normally aspirated engine.
I am in a predicament. My allocation is coming up for a C8 in March or April. Should I wait for the Z06? If so, when will the Z06 be available for order? Will the Z06 come in convertible?
Absolutely NOT...if I have to second guess the functionality of the wheels...it’s a no go. You’ll have enough stress worrying about being pulled over by the cops 😂✌🏾❗️
Imo cf-wheels and their insane cost are a viable option for a track car. But as you also mentioned, even as a pure track option, i have my doubts about safety. Are they strong enough to carry the car's weight AND withstand the forces put upon them while racing, cornering and braking the car? Cause unlike metal, carbonfiber isn't very flexible. It will sooner break than bend. Then, the amount of improvement they give for acceleration and handling does not justify the price on a daily driven road car. The same as other upgrade parts that cost alot of money to shave off tents or hundreds of a second are "useful" on a track car cause there these minuscule time advantages can make a difference between first or second place, but are unnoticeable and so kinda "useless" on a car for use on public roads cause there you don't have any cars to compare these upgrades with (atleast not during normal driving situations). And if you get "cosmetic" damage on these cf-wheels it's impossible to repair them so the damage can't be seen anymore. To everyone, a happy new year and best wishes for the future. 🥳🥳
Hey Justin, I know this is a bit off topic, but do you know if you can get the two tone Tension Blue interior with black leather or do you have to get it with dark blue leather? The website lists the option as "Tension/Twilight Blue Dipped" and they don't have a Tension Blue w/Jet Black so I think I know the answer but I'm hoping you know something I don't. The website doesn't always show every option. Thanks
Usually it will take 3 years or more, from the day any auto manufacturer tests a car, until the day it is mass produced. That is usually the norm. So there is no way that the Z06 will come out next year.
They are talking about two Difference engines and models. The 5.5 normally aspirated engine will be in the Z06, the other 5.5 with twin turbos will not be a Z06, May be a ZR1 C8 and May start with a lower compression 5.5 that the turbo boost won’t blow the tops out of the pistons. You can’t just slap turbos on a high compression engine without mechanical changes or ignition mapping. The 6.2 liter Sting Ray will also have a sister C8 with a electric motor driving the front wheels, E-Ray. Published model, horse power, and torque values have been leaked and some “best guesser” penciled in different values. I would rather take what the Engineers that have been working on the C8 for a half dozen years leaked then anyone’s best guesses!
Justin, your MIC is still picking up MONO from right channel as I reported this from months ago. Are you using your notebooks built in MIC or a plugin MIC? If plugin, there is either a problem with the plug making proper connection for the MIC wire or the plug is not fully in. On a desktop with large speaker, your voice only comes from right side, but when you inject other videos, the sound is stereo. So, it has to be your MIC. Hope this helps.
Obviously the huge reduction in unstrung weight is super attractive and would add to the handling characteristics of the car !! BUT, there’s no way I could justify the risk of going out of round or possibly having a wheel break at speed on the track !! We’re talking potential DEATH here, no way for this boy !!
GM should be careful not to price this car totally out of range of Corvette buyers... twin turbos, CF wheels, different zo6 models... keep this car affordable!
I mean if Koenigsegg is doing carbon fiber wheels and even taking into account adding the 1 ounce on the opposite side of the valve to accommodate high speeds, I think they are good for both weight reduction and being better suited for high speeds. Regardless even if you don't get carbon wheels, I just got my 3rd set of Corvette wheels and in the first month two are bent again. So would it be worth it to get theses and possible have a longer life span at the cost of a higher cost if I break them? Or should I just wait for my 4th set of wheels to come in so I can very easily bend them daily driving?
I wouldn't get the carbon fiber wheels, to many nicer off market wheels available. However I wonder if a wheel and tire protection plan would be offered with them?
That option was offered on the C7 Corvette as well but if GM knows of these issues with carbon fiber wheels they won't offer it because it's likely to bankrupt them lol
Side note, my c7z came NEW with two sets of wheels, after the first set cracked in a year.. the BRAND NEW UNBOXED SET... that i unboxed.. came from the factory bent, and damaged 😂 i have a video on this
I already question the weather when going to use my current C7 because of the tires... adding Carbon fiber rims would be another pain in the ass to consider when wanting to drive the car. I've had Vettes all my life and prior didn't use them... always in the garage. Now at 73 I want to use/drive the car. So no on the carbon fiber when I order (Whenever) my C8 Z06. Hopefully soon
I’m pushing for turbos on this car! I doubt they will give us a naturally aspirated car, especially if they want to keep track times and performance at best for this car
Thumbnail pic looks just like the leak pic at 4.51. I really hope so... 😍 CF I think would be a better option for show. Not everyday driving or track use.
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I love the look but hell no! I curb way to much & pot holes here in CA are horrible
Just wanted to thank you for your corvette content. It’s been educating and been keeping me entertained while I wait for my C8. Hope to get it delivered sometime in January.
Before considering the CF wheels, check out how much they cost to replace, just in case. People who put the CF wheels on the Shelby GT500 were shocked to find that the replacements are on permanent back order and they are over $17,000 EACH!! Yeah...shocked me too.
Must have option
You're very welcome! I'm happy to help ease the pain of waiting for your C8! 😊
Easy solution: Buy 2 C8s, one for track & other for daily usage. Glad to have helped.😎
🤣🤣 I might grab 3 just to have one as a spare!
BUT BUT WHY WASTE YER MONEY ON A SHABBIE AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO TELL I HATE CHEVY 🤷♂️🙄😤🤬👍👎..!!??
@@65coupestang I'm the original owner of a 1999 vette - still a joy to drive.
I've had a deposit down on this C8 Z06 for over 7 months, there is too much speculation behind this car and the future models. GM needs to hurry up and release this car so people can either purchase it or move on to other options.
I’ve been debating on putting a deposit down but would have to find a dealer with good allocation. I’ve heard most dealers are looking for at least $1,000 non refundable.
@@repz0611 I have 2 deposits down at 2 of our biggest dealers. One is refundable and the other is subject to a certain price, meaning when the car is revealed if the base price exceeds what we agreed on in writing I can walk away. At the end of the day it's only 1,000.00 it wouldn't be the end of the world if you couldn't get the money back. Any decent dealer would want to avoid bad press should the deal not work out, it could cost them a lot more than a 1,000.00.
Same... waiting 6 months. Deposit refundable at a top notch volume dealer and near the top on the list. Just give me the exotic sound FP or not, but it needs to make serous HP and not explode. FP is great. Please don’t make them like the “other” American company with the “air cooled” see through blocks. Copy Ferrari. Lower the displacement and twin turbo it.
Keep the same comfort adjustments on suspension, same levels of choice on the interior, as they nailed that. Agreed on the zero info from Chevy, I can wait but yes... start giving us details of what and when. It’s getting old.
@@repz0611 $1000 deposit, that's pretty cheap honestly. Hell, I had to put down $2500 (non-refundable) on a custom motorcycle back in 2004.
@@danielfair4675 It's actually 1,000.00 just to put your name on a list, once the car is revealed they will require an additional 4,000.00 to seal the deal and it's non refundable at that time.
Justin, thanks for continuing to make both entertaining and informative videos for corvettes. One of my fav TH-cam channels
Thank you!
if you want the CF look, just get your wheels hydro-dipped CF. they come out surprisingly good with the matte clearcoat.
I agree! It's no way I'd go with CF wheels for street use! Hell how much performance is there to gain ON THE STREET to need CF Wheels!?!?
Agreed. There isn't any performance but it would be cool and they definitely have eye appeal.
@@HorsePowerObsessed they definately look damn good! But we all know how much of a pain “pretty” things can be! 😂😂
@@HorsePowerObsessed there is absolutely performance gained with CF wheels, way beyond unsprung weight. Find the article by Billy Johnson about CF wheels and all they offer from a performance standpoint. Yeah, if it’s only going to be a street car, okay, but if it’s ever going to see a track or you enjoy spirited driving, get the CF wheels.
Significant. My friend has a 720S Mcl, and driving it with the OEM wheels and then with his carbon fiber rims was a world of difference to me. That is why I was going to get them on a C8 Z06 without regard for pricing. And as an aside. He did bend one and had to pony up huge dollars.
Unsprung weight. Pretty big difference, but for the price and street driving? Probably wouldn't
I would much rather have the carbon ceramic brakes over the wheels, especially on the roads we have here in Pa.....
Agreed. I'm right here in PA as well and the carbon ceramic rotors/brakes are a freaking life saver on my ZR1 when it comes to washing it!
Once again...Best C8 Corvette News Channel on TH-cam!
Thanks, Steve! I appreciate it!
I’m so excited for the C8 z06 to debut!!
Agreed!
Love the pic. That would be a smoking Z. I'd buy that!
I agree! 🤞🤞 That it looks that way!
agreed. if it looks like this fkn sign me up
@@headofthetable5755 🤘😎🤘
I'd love a Z06 in that color ...
But it's NOT A Z IT'S A/SHABBY C8 CORVETTE 😠🙄😤🤬👎👎..!!
I hope the z06 is twin turbo'ed .... the tuning aspect would be amazing to get big gains
If the regular Z51 Stingray is encrypted and cannot be tuned, what makes you think this one will be? No way
@@mustangtony2933 by then it will be cracked its literally 2 years away remember the c7 zr1 it took a few years turning wasn't available until 2018 or 2019 cause of the unlocking issues as well
I think the twin-turbo V8 will be saved for the ZR1. 850 HP is my guess. That would be enough for me. I wouldn't fret about the unlocking. You've got a car with more performance than 99.9% of drivers can really use, and it has a warranty, why mess with it?
*Would..... WHAT!!!???🤬😁😃
no!!! Z06 is a track car not some freeway roll racer
If I'm buying this car to keep it for life or if it was a collector car, I would buy the carbon fiber wheels take them off store them away and put other lite weight metal rim.. carbon fiber rims are beautiful but you have to take them off you cannot use them for daily use.. only if you're going to use them for car show events, now I will say if you're swimming in money then do whatever you need to do with carbon fiber Drive the hell out of them.
Talked to a certain someone who works at Chevy, car will have the engine from the c8 R more or less, he said it’s super similar to the race car. Get hyped
No way. It is hard enough to get someone to put tires on my Z06 without scratching up my black powdercoat!
Even though it’s a hassle I put multiple layers of blue tape around the lip.. takes me about 2 hours.
@@coletrick8748 this is why i just buy used wheels for a $100 so i dont care of small scratches
I wouldn't get the CF wheels b/c I would be to worried about curbing them at my local Starbucks drive thru , its narrow AF !
Not sold on CF wheels, sick and all, but id stick to a magnesium/aluminum wheel myself 🤷🏻♂️
Forged magnesium Wheels can be almost as light weight and stronger than Carbon Fiber Wheels. I believe magnesium or light weight forged aluminum GM will offer for a little more money over standard wheels for Z06 or ZR1
I'm all in for TT. With high compression NA motor will have to be heavily modified for boosted high hp builds we all want to see in next few years. Having a tutbo car from the get go would be awesome.
5.5 fpc. / 600 hp. 8 spd.N/A. My sister in law is involved with R&D. She was saying it’s going to rev up to 9000 rpm. Totally focused on track performance. No Turbocharger due to the fact of predictably of engine response. I.E. they don’t want turbo lag.
Everybody's wrong they are Reviving the motor from the 2019 ZR1 that's correct a 760 horsepower Mid Engine Corvette
Give me a TT version of a Z06 any day! Why are people so concerned about going back to roots? I mean - GM is already hinting future Corvettes will be hybrid or electric; so what’s the point of returning to “roots” for 1 generation?
I want a V8, I want turbos, and I want some decently high revs (happy with 8k redline)!
The people voting for N/A make up about 2% of the population that would actually road race this car. The other 98% will use it on the street where it would need the added hp for roll racing and half mile events. GM is not going to make a car to cater to 2% of it's buyers, that would be suicide. You also need to realize that the demographic for this car has changed, it used to be an old man's car. Now with the design and bold new colors it will appeal to younger buyers as well, and that's a hard pill to swallow for these old time enthusiasts. GM needs to look into the future and not the past, no one needs to fit 2 sets of golf clubs or luggage in the back. This car should only be used as a toy drive your pickup to the airport or golf course.
Let's talk about the car when it reaches production, please!
No, I wouldn't unless it was covered under the car's full warranty AND you could buy an extended warranty for those wheels.
I'd prefer a center-lock option over CF.
Yes! I agree!
Its been identified as magnesium wheels, but that could be a package as well. Good vid, considering the staggering price of carbon fiber wheels.
Thank you!
Magnesium wheels were an option on C5 Corvettes in the early 2000s
As a 018 GT350R owner .. I’m still undecided about the glorious sounding FPC V8. I’ve had no problems with mine (it’s not a daily) but I’ve heard others horror stories. As for the CF wheels, I’ve never driven on them ... I switched them out at the dealer with a replacement set the day I took delivery of my car. I have a friend that damaged a wheel on a curb and replacing it wasn’t pretty. So handle with extreme care if you go with that option. What you should say “NO!” to is the Dominic Toretto Wing option 🤣🤣🤣
If you want strong and light weight wheels, there companies who do custom CNC from a block of forged aluminum.. Beautiful designs, perfect shape (circle), very strong and light. Or you couldgo titanium wheels, but more expensive. On my previous Z06, I bought the forged aluminum with tires from a vendor and the total was $8,000. Best investment I made as it made a huge difference in the feel of driving compared to stock wheels and tires. And when I sold my Z06, I sold the 4 wheels alone (as the tires were worn out) for $6,000 and got my money back.
No. I wouldn't do CF wheels personally.
Could be wise to avoid them.
So many potholes where I am from. Big negative for me.
Naturally aspirated for the Z06 and twin turbo for the ZR1 seems like it would be the best idea
Very good recommendation on the CF wheels. No doubt you'd destroy them on the bad Roads here in Colorado. So far I've bent one wheel on my Z06 in the past 4 years since moving here from Houston. As far as the discussion I had with you on the C8Z06 being NA FP crank or TT FP crank , I've seen no new info or arguments on the Corvette Forum either way. After much thought about the subject and reading others thoughts I believe GM must equal or exceed the C7 ZR1 HP of 755 as they did with the C6ZR1 638 HP > C7Z06 650 HP. So I'm expecting C8 Z06 to be 750-775 HP TT FP crank.. If not it will disappoint me and a lot of other potential buyers. If it is a NA FP crank 600HP engine, I may have to sell my C7 Z06 and go back to a C7 ZR1 LOL!
the first photo you share is what the corvette gonna look like
One pothole OR bump and you can kiss goodbye the thousands you spent on something that is ONLY INCREMENTALLY BETTER THAN ALLOY WHEEL'S IN THE BIG PICTURE!!
I’ve been waiting for this car for a while now Chevy!! hopefully we’ll see something soon😎 thanks for the update.
Someone on TH-cam had a GT350R carbon wheel break and the replacement for one wheel was $3000 dollars. No thanks
Yup. I saw that as well. Definitely pricey.
That's actually less than I thought it would be! Still too rich for my bank account.
@@andyharman3022
I thought the same thing. I remember when carbon wheels and ceramic rotors were new tech and remember the premium they sold for.
I have a neighbor who has a Shelby Mustang 500...with carbon fiber wheels...they do look really good. That being said, I live in So Cal and the pot holes on the freeways and surface streets would make ordering those an absolute no. I am anxiously awaiting the release of the Z06...should be something special for sure! Nice video 👍🏻
Thank you!
Wonder what the ZR-1 will be like?
Oh I bet gm is gonna roll up there sleeves and gonna build a viper destroyer
I have heard about high performance alloy wheel rims getting damaged on high performance cars when pot holes are struck, because on these high performance tires there is very little distance between the wheel rim and the road. Because carbon fiber wheel rims are more likely to break than alloy wheel rims, it sure sounds like carbon fiber wheel rims are not suitable for regular street use.
So I bought Strasse carbon fiber wheels for my ZR1 but they are metal CF rapped they look amazing and have the strength needed for that car. I was afraid of the solid CF. It is an option people might consider if the want the look.
When they do decide to roll out the zr1. It's has to have a roof scoop option. Kinda like the McLaren senna. Think that would look so amazing
If I was going for the lightest possible optioned C8 z06, than I would do the carbon wheels BUT that is only if I just let it sit in my garage and drive it only every once in a few months but if I would drive it all the time, than no carbon wheels
Will you be getting the C8 z06 when it comes out?
You know it!
When does it come out?
All my conversations about “GM“ and “wheels” aren’t positive. Hahaha.
09:41 I guess that says it all.
Personally could care less about CF wheels....now an 800hp twin turbo flat plain crank engine????....Ohhh yeah baby!!
Its gonna be 600bhp NA
What's the price???
Thanks for doing the research on those carbon fiber rims. I was going to specify them on my Z06 C8 order regardless of the pricing. Not anymore!
Glad to help!
Correction!!!!!!!!!!!
Speed phenom didn’t break any CC wheels. He made a video about one that busted up in the barrel
Correct. It broke away from the barrel.
My guess, they do the flat plane for 1-3 years and then change the platform to the twin turbo.
Flat plane crank would be a new GM production engine design and need a little time for reliability to settle in. My guess would be they do the flat plane for 1-3 years, then add or change it to twin turbo after a couple years. They have to fight against the Dodge Hellcat and other platform performance issues so turbo is very likely to come fairly quickly. However, they have to compete with the Mustang performance issues with their flat plan crank so I see that as a more direct and immediate market competition issue.
Z06: NA
ZR1: Turbocharged
Like you, I like the idea of CF wheels, but I will not take that risk when I order the Z06. I will be getting mine approximately one year into production, so I will have decent insight into all the options. I will be tracking the Z06 and I am looking forward to hopefully a superior track car.
I own a wheel repair business. We do not work on carbon fiber wheels, it’s a whole different animal.
That said, CF wheels will not get “out of round” like an aluminum wheel, it will just break/crack.
If they're aiming for the world market then turbocharging can be necessary in order to pass emissions.
This is the real reason we'll see a TT in some way or another I'm sure.
If you can afford it, go for a good set of Forged Aluminum Wheels, and that'd be fine for most people, ditto brakes. Carbon Ceramic brakes cost what 25k on the c7 z06, they cost when you replace them. A good set of steel brakes work just as well, and don't cost anywhere near as much
As for the carbon fiber wheel option, I would only have them on a Corvette when presenting a C8 at an auto show, be it for competition for appearance or not. I would only trust a carbon fiber wheel if the facing was a carbon fiber wrap around an aluminum core.
Also, I own a C7 Z51 and, aside from curb-rash, I have had to replace only one of the wheels, which is of the split spoke design; however, this was due to running over a rock the side of a grapefruit while changing lanes on the highway at 75 mph.
I wonder what the cost would be. I also wonder if GM might road test the carbon fiber for durability and at least give a warning about what to expect like "off road use only recommended". I like the look it you were going for other carbon fiber options.
When will they reveal the z06?
No one outside of GM knows the answer to that question, speculation points to summer 2021.
Early to mid 2021 i think
I am planning on buying a C8 and this will be my first Corvette. would you recommend waiting for the ZO6 or would you buy a base model?
You really can't go wrong either way. If it's your first, I personally, would say to go with the base C8. It's still a beastly car.
I say go with the base car. Maybe Z51 performance option if you're inclined to running it on the track.
I too will be a 1st time Corvette Owner and Seriously thinking of purchasing the.C8 Base Model.
*Personally My Track Days Are Over. Just No Need for
$$CF Wheels$$ for my personal driving preferences.
*Good Blessings to You and Your C8 Car.
I personally love the concave flowing design of these carbon fiber wheels, I believe they would look great on Z06 considering they're 21x13 in the rear
The 10spd is not DCT. Pretty sure it’ll be 8 or 9 speed.
@@markzl1608 ?
Only if the CF wheels carry the same warranty as the car itself or they offer you an option to purchase a road hazard warranty as a reasonably priced option.
That pic of the c8r at Road America is awesome. Great video. Go Pack
Egress in & out of this car is difficult at best for us bigger and older folks and we're the ones who can afford the car and ins. and maint.,storage etc.
I would not add the option for carbon fiber wheels. I!m a retired daily driver. I want the reliability of a metallic made wheel. I own a 2018 z06 with steel wheels and I love it. I will have a 2022 on order as soon as they open the orders for the dealers. What every you get enjoy, have fun and be careful.
No turbochargers
Aftermarket Forgeline wheels and be done. I’m sold on their wheels.
As I am on my Shelby GT350 with GTD1 5 lug in PVD black finish FTW 😉👍🏻
I’m so ready for this car!!!
I know the feeling!
I read an article on the new GordonMurray T50 and he chose not to offer carbon fiber wheels on the car because of the tendency for “catastrophic failure”
I'm with you, The wheels look so basic. I think the car deserve something better looking with the wheels.
I think the final product would be nicer looking. These are likely just for "testing"
$20,000 very delicate wheels with no warranty that also happen to be ugly. Hummmmm. 🤔
It won’t be 5.2 liters unless it is turbocharged. You can’t possibly get enough torque out of 5.2 liter normally aspirated engine. It just isn’t physically possible. It will be either a 5.2 liter boosted engine or a 5.5 liter normally aspirated engine.
Yes, I think it will be a 5.5L. I hadn't heard of the 5.2L possibility until now.
I am in a predicament. My allocation is coming up for a C8 in March or April. Should I wait for the Z06? If so, when will the Z06 be available for order? Will the Z06 come in convertible?
One is probably the ZR1 ie the 800 TT one
Absolutely NOT...if I have to second guess the functionality of the wheels...it’s a no go. You’ll have enough stress worrying about being pulled over by the cops 😂✌🏾❗️
🤣🤣🤣 right?!
NEED MORE CARBON FIBRE TRIM PIECES SO THE PRICE CAN BE JACKED UP.
Na c8 z06 and twin turbo c8 zr1 for the win !
Imo cf-wheels and their insane cost are a viable option for a track car. But as you also mentioned, even as a pure track option, i have my doubts about safety. Are they strong enough to carry the car's weight AND withstand the forces put upon them while racing, cornering and braking the car? Cause unlike metal, carbonfiber isn't very flexible. It will sooner break than bend. Then, the amount of improvement they give for acceleration and handling does not justify the price on a daily driven road car. The same as other upgrade parts that cost alot of money to shave off tents or hundreds of a second are "useful" on a track car cause there these minuscule time advantages can make a difference between first or second place, but are unnoticeable and so kinda "useless" on a car for use on public roads cause there you don't have any cars to compare these upgrades with (atleast not during normal driving situations). And if you get "cosmetic" damage on these cf-wheels it's impossible to repair them so the damage can't be seen anymore.
To everyone, a happy new year and best wishes for the future. 🥳🥳
Hey Justin, I know this is a bit off topic, but do you know if you can get the two tone Tension Blue interior with black leather or do you have to get it with dark blue leather? The website lists the option as "Tension/Twilight Blue Dipped" and they don't have a Tension Blue w/Jet Black so I think I know the answer but I'm hoping you know something I don't. The website doesn't always show every option. Thanks
I'll have to take a look into this. Can you shoot me an email with the details so I can check up on it? Horse.Power.Obsessed@gmail.com.
Great Video, love the research you do. Also really a fan of that grey C8 with the black wheels, do you have any idea who manufactures those wheels?
Thank you! I appreciate it. I don't know who makes the wheels unfortunately.
Usually it will take 3 years or more, from the day any auto manufacturer tests a car, until the day it is mass produced. That is usually the norm.
So there is no way that the Z06 will come out next year.
They are talking about two
Difference engines and models. The 5.5 normally aspirated engine will be in the Z06, the other 5.5 with twin turbos will not be a Z06, May be a ZR1 C8 and May start with a lower compression 5.5 that the turbo boost won’t blow the tops out of the pistons. You can’t just slap turbos on a high compression engine without mechanical changes or ignition mapping. The 6.2 liter Sting Ray will also have a sister C8 with a electric motor driving the front wheels, E-Ray. Published model, horse power, and torque values have been leaked and some “best guesser” penciled in different values. I would rather take what the Engineers that have been working on the C8 for a half dozen years leaked then anyone’s best guesses!
id laugh if chevy saw the rumors and just supercharge it instead
I'm pretty sure Chevy themselves are the ones leaking some of this stuff!
I think it’s physically not really a feasible option to supercharge the c8
Carbon fiber wheel if the car is someone trophy (not going to be driven) but if you’re going to use the car for what’s it’s made for, get aluminum.
It doesn't seem that Koenigsegg has a problem with out of round with their carbon fiber Wheels.
If you can afford that car wheels are the least on your mind
Litespeed wheels use Dymag for their carbon, they might be a better option.
Justin, your MIC is still picking up MONO from right channel as I reported this from months ago. Are you using your notebooks built in MIC or a plugin MIC? If plugin, there is either a problem with the plug making proper connection for the MIC wire or the plug is not fully in. On a desktop with large speaker, your voice only comes from right side, but when you inject other videos, the sound is stereo. So, it has to be your MIC.
Hope this helps.
Obviously the huge reduction in unstrung weight is super attractive and would add to the handling characteristics of the car !! BUT, there’s no way I could justify the risk of going out of round or possibly having a wheel break at speed on the track !! We’re talking potential DEATH here, no way for this boy !!
GM should be careful not to price this car totally out of range of Corvette buyers... twin turbos, CF wheels, different zo6 models... keep this car affordable!
Agreed!
I suspect msrp will start at $89k. Let’s hope! By the time you add all the nice options, you’ll be looking at about $115k. Still a bargain!
I mean if Koenigsegg is doing carbon fiber wheels and even taking into account adding the 1 ounce on the opposite side of the valve to accommodate high speeds, I think they are good for both weight reduction and being better suited for high speeds. Regardless even if you don't get carbon wheels, I just got my 3rd set of Corvette wheels and in the first month two are bent again. So would it be worth it to get theses and possible have a longer life span at the cost of a higher cost if I break them? Or should I just wait for my 4th set of wheels to come in so I can very easily bend them daily driving?
I wouldn't get the carbon fiber wheels, to many nicer off market wheels available. However I wonder if a wheel and tire protection plan would be offered with them?
We paid for a wheel and tire protection plan with our Audi and it saved us a couple of times already.
That option was offered on the C7 Corvette as well but if GM knows of these issues with carbon fiber wheels they won't offer it because it's likely to bankrupt them lol
Side note, my c7z came NEW with two sets of wheels, after the first set cracked in a year.. the BRAND NEW UNBOXED SET... that i unboxed.. came from the factory bent, and damaged 😂 i have a video on this
Great video ☝️🏾 when exactly is the C8 Z06 production date? 📆
Thank you! We should get official word sometime this summer or fall.
No, if there is a slight chance of breaking, absolutely not!
I already question the weather when going to use my current C7 because of the tires... adding Carbon fiber rims would be another pain in the ass to consider when wanting to drive the car. I've had Vettes all my life and prior didn't use them... always in the garage. Now at 73 I want to use/drive the car. So no on the carbon fiber when I order (Whenever) my C8 Z06. Hopefully soon
I’m pushing for turbos on this car! I doubt they will give us a naturally aspirated car, especially if they want to keep track times and performance at best for this car
With the current wheel problem that the C7Z is having, I have a hard time believing Chevy would go down that road again.
Thumbnail pic looks just like the leak pic at 4.51. I really hope so... 😍 CF I think would be a better option for show. Not everyday driving or track use.
I agree. I think there is a good chance this is what we get! 🤞🤞
@@HorsePowerObsessed Praying to the car Gods!!!
Does the 10 speed transmission not work with the new engine then? I believed that maybe they would use it.
There's been rumors of a 9 speed and a 10 speed but I believe the 10 speed will likely be reserved for the ZR1/Zora.
The 10 speed is a traditional automatic tranny and will not be used in the C8. They are using the DCT.
great point HPO! carbon fiber wheels are for sportbikes!!
Want the c8z soooooo badly.
Same!!! 👍👍
What color is the car in the beginning of the video. I don't think that color is available on the standard C8
Looks to be silver flare. New color for 2021.