SM465 Rebuild Part 5 Shift Cover Rebuild
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video I will show you how to change your shift forks if they are worn out or damaged. Also I will go over shift levers and compare the factory lever to the style that I use and prefer.
Great content. I just got an sm465 to mate up to a gm Vortec 350 and np241c in my 87 YJ. I will be rebuilding this transmission very soon.
Thank you for showing us everything about this transmission
Hi Brian. I’m never going to rebuild a gearbox but I find your videos fascinating! Just to see the precision work that you do and the way you present it is great. Thanks from the UK. 🇬🇧
Great to have a viewer from the UK. Thanks for watching.
Please consider an engine rebuild series (L head, F head, maybe 6 cylinder as well) I'm sure it'll be popular and helpful for many people out there. In your channel you have taught us everything, from making brake lines, fixing axles, transmission, machine work, etc. to painting and body work. But the one thing missing is a complete guide, on putting engines back together with all it's details and I consider engine work very critical and important. Thank you again for all your content and work.
The engine work, like this transmission series was not accepted very well by the youtube crowd. I have 4 engines right now being rebuilt but doubt I will film and post any of it. Just isn't worth the time to set up, film, edit, post, and only have a few views. Thanks for watching
@@metalshaperJeep I appreciate your sincere reply, could you at least do a video, if you can, about camshaft bearing replacement and piston/pin to rod assembly? I found very little information about those. Thank you once again.
Thank you I'm building a custom Jeep with a 350 and a 465 Muncie I got a lot of help from you with building the tranny even though I'm a machinist and have built many different types your information was awesome thank you so much I think some of the reason you're not getting that much watches that just getting so rare people don't use them only as old school guys thanks again
I may never rebuild a cover but the tip about shifting to reverse to disassemble and assemble and the welding tips were worth it.
I have not been able to watch a lot of your videos threw the fall or winter but am getting caught up now.
Always great content.
Good tip on not welding shifter. Great video full of info as always. Thanks Brian
Thanks 👍
Thank you much, Im getting ready to put my Super 18 on the back of a sm465. I enjoyed the whole series.
Have fun!
@@metalshaperJeep locating the proper tools is going to be interesting.
Always love watching your precision work Brain. Could you please do a whole engine rebuild series? You have great videos out there, but some things are missing, specially the putting it back together videos. Your F head rebuild series wasn't popular at first, but now it has many views. I was sad to see you never finished filming putting them back together.
Brian... Very good presentation. Thank you!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
It's too bad people aren't liking the 465 rebuild. Your rebuild videos are the best out there. I was hoping to see you rebuild an SM420 sometime. I suppose it wouldn't be worth your time if they don't like this series.
I have plenty of SM420 transmissions and they are not too much different than the 465. Maybe some day.
Can’t wait to see the new projects coming in
Might get a chance today to film the parts and pieces for the next challenge in the shop.
Thanks for another great tutorial Brian. I enjoy all your content but I'm an old Jeep guy. I'm not a TH-cam expert, by any stretch of the imagination, but I can offer a random thought. I think most regular (non Jeep afficianado) people like to see projects go from before to after in 30 minutes. Maybe try editing some of your older video series into a single 30ish minute vid that shows a before to after with less technical details. Please don't take this as criticism, I love your stuff as-is but I can see why you would like to market to the masses. Thanks again... Glenn
Who is the manufacturer (and part number if you have it) of those shifter sticks you like to use? I've heard of the welding "fix" alot and I always felt uncomfortable about that. Glad to hear a pro back up my suspicions. Great vids, thank you!
Another great video. Thanks this really is great Information
Glad you enjoyed it
I find all of your tutorial video's useful... Even when they cover something which does not specifically concern my projects. I enjoyed the video you did a while back where you made a fuel tank for an early willys. I have a 1945 willys MB which is missing a fuel tank. I wonder if you could do the same thing for the 1945 military style tank? I believe the replacement versions are anywhere from $350-$900ish.
Thank you was looking forward to this.
Hope you enjoyed it!
Hello. Thank you for the reply. I am in the process of gathering the parts to do a rebuild of my SM465 it is out of a 1981 GMC 3500. I have the bearing seal gasket kit, the small parts kits, and springs and dog kits. I need to get the bushings yet. The trouble I am having is selecting the bushings. I have watched your videos several time and have noted the measurements of the parts. When I
Very good, thanks for showing
No problem 👍
Hi Brian, how are you? I sure appreciate you showing us how to rebuild the 465 I will be doing this same thing for my 69cj5. Thank you so much!!
follow along with my video and you will have a great 465 when you are done
Thanks Brian!
You're welcome!
Good to know, Great video
Thanks for watching!
Mine is in a van im leaving the shifting cane straight looks old school t bucket
Just trying to think how many tools I would’ve thrown across the garage trying to do that.
A little patience goes a long way when rebuilding the top cover.
I don’t remember the transmission model but we could replace the fork ware tips
replacement tips on the 465 would be great. Not too bad to change the forks though.
Needing some parts for an sm465. Do you sell just the rebuilt top cover?
Where do you normally source the NOS shift forks? I'm having a helluva time finding the 1-2 fork and only (2) of the 3-4 forks available on Ebay. I'm going to try calling all the local dealerships and hope that maybe they have some old stuff gathering dust. The coating on my original forks is flaking off/worn through. It's hard to tell from pictures and the "help desk" folks aren't much help, but it seems like the aftermarket forks don't have any coating on them.
The Kent-Moore tools seem to be drying up online as well...
I often check old Chevy dealers and they sometimes have forks sitting around from the 70's. Was able to get all three that I showed in the video for $48.00 from a dealer who didn't even know that they had them, but took a look when I gave him the part numbers. There is still a lot of NOS GM parts out there you just have to dig a little bit.
my shifter is stuck in 4th i cant remove cover what can i do
Ok I have this transmission and the problem I am having is the front input shaft leaks oil so I have put a new bearing in and gasket. Now when I do a thin gasket the transmission will not hardly go into second and it feels like the clutch is not disengaging so I put a thicker gasket on and shifts fine but leaks oil like crazy what is the problem. Help.
Did you put a new seal in the bearing retainer? Pull the bearing retainer and check the seal, often times they get hard and brittle. Change the seal with a new one. Install carefully so you don't distort it. That should take care of your leak.
Go get something stuck and pull it out with the gin pole Jeep or whatever you call it. I watch every video. Make a steam frankenjeep. LOL. Have some fun.
Hey metalshaper,
Used your videos to complete my Novak adapter. For some reason when I shift my sleeves on the trans into what should be neutral and spin the input it won’t let them spin free? Any ideas?
Make sure you are exactly in neutral. Also make sure your blocking rings are free on the synchro hub. They can bind and stick and cause trouble. Take a small screwdriver and make sure the blocking rings are free from the hub. If you followed my videos and did everything correctly you shouldn't have any trouble. Let me know how it goes
@@metalshaperJeep I will check these things and let you know.
I moved the sliders between the sincros and the shaft will spin but it feels like it is still in gear somehow. If I shift into 1st gear or any gear for that matter the mainshaft wont spin. Is the blocking ring the one with the "Dogs"?
@metalshaperjeep ,
Could not have made it this far without your videos. Also after doing some more research I believe blocking ring to 4th gear nearest the input shaft is not letting go of the input shaft. I was thinking of getting some gl4 gear oil and dropping it on that ring I tried the screwdriver but it’s not letting go.
@@metalshaperJeep You were spot on! Blocking ring was stuck on the cone not allowing it to spin free. I loosened up the front bearing retainer and it let go. Snugged them back down and we are good to go. Cant thank you enough for putting all the work into these videos. For anyone wondering these videos allowed a person who had never seen the inside of a transmission to be able to successfully rebuild one. Amazing stuff!
When I checked the thickness of the thrust washer I found that it is thicker than expected, it is .204. I was expecting .197.
is this the wrong washer?
When you get your new parts, bushings, you will need the later more common style. You should get the proper thrust washer with the new bushings and small parts kit. It will be the correct thickness when you get the new one. I have taken some out a bit thinner and and bit thicker so no worries about the small differences. This is a very common transmission and very high quality parts are out there from a variety of retailers.
@@metalshaperJeep Thank you. The kit I ordered only came with the Gaskets, Seals, 3 Syncros, and a small parts kit with snap rings, pin bearings, splash guard ring a spacer with built in key, and what I think is the thrust washer and the bearings. I had to buy the small parts kits and the dogs and springs separate the bushings didn't come with the kit. This is why I am unsure about the washer thickness and witch bushings I need. any InSite you may have would most helpful and appreciated. Thank you.
@@blackswampenterprisesltd3471 go over to the Novak Adapters website and you can read about and buy the parts you need for your transmission. They are knowledgeable about the 465 and have what you need. You can also try Advance Adapters website for information and parts as well.
Brian
@@metalshaperJeep Thank you for all your help.
@@metalshaperJeep Thank you for your help. The guys at Novak where able to answer my questions and cleared up most of the confusion. They confirmed the measurements I needed and I was able to purchase what I needed.
I would also like to share that I found some of my parts at Trans Star. I was most pleased with the service and the PRICE of the 3ed gear upgrade kit, it sells for $148.00 some places, but Trans Star was $90.00..
Thank you agene and keep up the good work.
What is the torque spec for the top cover bolts?
28 to 32 ft. lbs.
where do you get you shifter for the SM465
You can get them from Novak adapters. Tell them Brian from youtube sent you and they will get you set up with what you need.
What is the benefit of going to the 465.?
Super heavy duty and will hold up behind the Cummins 4BT engine