I’m 16, just bought myself an 87 quadzilla about two weeks ago. Definitely learned a few things in this vid. I’m currently replacing a bunch of stuff on my zilla like ball joints and tie rods but in a week or two it’s gonna be ready to rip.
Glad to hear it was helpful! Make sure you get everything torqued, especially that pinch bolt on that lower ball joints! Had that come loose on a buddy's luckily the results where mostly uneventful!
Dude you are lucky. I’m 34 and just got my first zilla last year. I dreamed of one when I was your age. Fix it up, don’t beat on it too hard, and never sell it, trust me.
@@warwagoninc check frame really good for cracks, they aren’t the best frames. Like with any other quad, make sure it’s straight too. Check around cylinder ears for cracks, as it’s fairly common on zillas, especially if it’s been ported. Run through all the gears, make sure it shifts smooth. Ask what oil mixture he’s running in it, he should be running 32-1. Take out spark plug to make sure it’s not running lean, zilla motors tend to seize up when lean. Check all ball joints, tie rods, wheel bearings, and other bearings, also check steering stem for play in it. Check motor mounting points for cracks, around top motor mount is most common. You actually don’t even need the top motor mount, a lot of people remove it. Make sure the bolt holes are still there where the chain guard bolts on in case a broken chain has flung into the guard and snapped them off. Make sure intake tubes aren’t cracked since you can’t buy those anymore. If fender supports in the rear are bent then check subframe really good for bends/cracks. Also, know in advance parts are hard to find. Joining the zilla groups on Facebook helps a lot.
Video really helped me dude. I just finished a frame up banshee build and now I got a crazy lead on a lt500r barn find . I'm a young guy 28 and love the vintage machines
Glad to hear it helped! Banshees are fun. I'm supposed to get one eventually. Hope the barn find works out! Good to see the younger guys taking an interest in them. Sadly parts are getting scarce...
I too have been dealing with the blue screen lol, just waiting on my motherboard and RAM. Bikes almost ready though, just have to redo the seat cover and get the exhaust sandblasted. Keep the vids coming, it was really hard to find certain info on the bike when I needed it, these videos are a HUGE help to us younger guys
Windows, I tell you, I almost considered giving Mac another try. Where you able to get one ordered from Hi-Flight or Ceet? Glad to hear it was helpful, will be going over the engine for the 90 in the next build video.
I just aquired a 88 lt500R and ill have to say its definitely a learning game that I gota learn since I play with the Honda ATC 250Rs but I couldn't resist getting a 500 and something new to play with....Great video by the way you have a lot of good info that I will definitely take into consideration 👍
Congrats on the acquisition! They are a slightly different beast from the Honda that is for sure. The OEM manual helps a lot if you're tearing into the engine for the first time. Glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching!
Thanks for the vid. I’ve watched a few times in the past year. Wish you would’ve went deeper into the seat differences though. Having a hard time finding that info.
You’re welcome, unfortunately I did not have examples of all 4 seats to film, it’s also why I skipped covering the exhaust differences as well. Anyhow I can tell you the following about the seats. The 87 was all blue with no wording. The 88 was all blue with a No Passenger heat stamped in the cover. The 89 has the same heat stamp, but also QuadRacer in white on the back. The 90 also has the heat stamp, but says SUZUKI in white on the back. Hope that helps.
I'm binge watching as well. This video was original and the time you take with the part number overlays and editing is evident. I've subscribed. You'll hit 1000 subs soon.
Thanks for watching! This video was pretty rough, a lot of time involved. I started it thinking it wouldn't be too bad to put together but wow was I wrong! It just kept snowballing into more and more details. I'm actually considering doing an addendum to it as I missed a couple things I intended to cover and have since learned some new as well.
@@QuadGuyCy I enjoy ATV history videos. I suppose that's because I'm a history buff but videos like this are hard to find. Lots of reviews out there but not like this.
@@VermontLife They are! I've also been kicking around building a website in order to document different models since the manufacturers have abandoned so many. Oh and if you get a chance this video shows some of the smooth sand at Little Sahara I was referring to after a good wind. th-cam.com/video/snBpopaKcmk/w-d-xo.html
Greetings from the deep freeze called Texas, I like this series your doing on the Zilla, hope to find a good one someday, keep up the good work, really like the the differences you point out on the different year models.
Hope your staying warm, I have some friends down there said it's been a little crazy. They are out there, prices have been going up a lot lately. Glad you're enjoying it!
I am looking to buy a 500. I am about your age. I have a lt250r and a TRX 250r. The 500 is next on my list. This video helped me to understand the 4 years of changes. Subscribed to you channel. Looks cool. Looking forward to more videos. Thank you.
Awesome content here, enjoyed the comparison and discussion about parts availability. So, I'm picking up an 87 zilla tomorrow. My first 500! I have 3 LT250r's and love them. If I have a question or two it looks like this is a great place!
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it! Also congrats on your new acquisition! Feel free to ask questions. I really want to do some LT250R content and some more tech oriented videos in the future but currently without a shop…
Thank you sir! It was a good time meeting you as well, it was nice seeing your collection in person. Even though I didn't get back to Ohio until 9:30, lol UGH! Definitely need to hit the sand sometime!
@@QuadGuyCy even after market. From what I've seen looking through different groups and what not there's still a pretty decent demand for the parts. Be nice to see a company step up to help keep these legends alive
Thanks! If I can get my hands on all that information, images and video to go with it I will! I have an 89 250R I plan to get to after this but def. don't have the parts on hand to show differences.
You are correct about the reeds themselves, but the cages are different on the 87s between the 250 and the 500. 88 and up they used the same assembly. I probably messed up explaining that.
@@QuadGuyCy I had a Clodbuster! Nothing comparable to today's offerings but mind blowing at the time. 4x4x4. My dad's ride was a Blackfoot. Good bit faster than the Buster but not near as cool.
@@triple6758 They certainly don't compare to the modern cars. They are fun for what they are. I find it comical how many times the Arma and Traxxas stuff has all been broken but here comes the Lunchbox and Midnight Pumpkin!
When was the first year on the quadzilla they came out with the block because I looked at a 1987 Zoe and it didn't have the block it had a setup like the lt250r quadracer and you could turn it with a pipe wrench I didn't think the block came out until 89
Also first year LT500 is 1987. And if you are referring to the chain adjustment the LT500 all years was the block style. Suzuki carried that design over to all years of the Z400 as far as I know. If you are thinking of the round carrier, chain adjustment, that was the first gen LT250.
You videos just recently got recommended to me and I just binge watched some of them. Absolutely awesome content. I love build series. You should invest in a pit posse lift from eBay. Huge back saved and their only like 150 bucks. Keep up the great content. I subscribed 👍🏼
Awesome to hear, glad you enjoyed them! Thanks for the recommendation on the lift, I'll definitely check that out. I have metal cart I've used in the past, it's nice to build on but it's manual job getting them on and off of it.
Very nice you nailed it I got a new 87 250 quad racer in 87 my buddy a 87 500 those were the days I was 15 I was so lucky to ride all those machines 250 R Honda’s as well pretty much everything except a banshee of all things back in the day but bought one of those in 99 but that’s what all that was left lol
Thanks! You where lucky to ride all those! I was a little younger, started on a trx125 then a trx200sx and followed it with an LT250 then a 500 but the LTs where all used by then in the early 90s but where still decent shape. I've had an LT500 in some fashion since about 93.
Hi Cyrus, great video and the information was very informative. Do you know where to get the upper arm bearings? what is someone suppose to do when they have to replace them?
Thanks Nin glad you enjoyed it! So far I personally haven’t had to source those parts yet. Let me check around I believe someone had posted a bearing size or number they found that would work. The races on the other hand would have to be made. I’ll see what I can find.
Great vidd man..I'm buying a Lt 250..1987 and wanting to digg up info on it..I has a 87 Zilla back in 2002-03. Miss it..but it was a heavy heavy bitch..but luvved it..any tips on the 250 u have please let me know..thanks...Ray
Thank you! I have a 250 but haven’t had much time to get to anything lately. I actually have plans to get a some 250s together and do a similar video at some point in time. There’s sis much to the 250s it might actually take several videos. Also with the 250 a lot depends on which generation you get, 1,2,3
I am a fan of the old Zilla. I ?Grew up? on one. My dad and all his friends had them and we would rally around the Oregon dunes. I now have the one my dad first bought. It is an '87 and it is hard to start. You mentioned the Electron Carb. I recently was reading about these. Do you have any advice you are willing to share? Model? Tips to run them on a Zilla? I also have a big bored YFZ 450. Just as you say. Different tool, different jobs. I do have to say there is not much like riding the ol' Zilla but I sure appreciate the electric start of my YFZ. I dig your enthusiasm. Keep it up.
That's awesome that you still have your dad's Zilla! Being hard to start any idea how many hours the top end has on it? I'd start with a compression test before switching around carbs. Especially if it was fine before and started getting more difficult. Is it a mostly stock machine? I'm a fan of the Lectron due to constantly chaning elevations. They can be some work to get dialed in but once there it's really nice just being able to bump the powerjet screw in or out for some fine tuning. Which model carb really depends on pipe, cylinder, porting, etc. Electric start is pretty hard to beat, been noticing it more as I get older.
Dude nice video!!! I built a 87 zilla it is hard to find parts here in the Netherlands 🙄 , but i have a 87 zilla but i have in my cilinder head 7 stuts 🤔
Thank you! Parts are getting hard to obtain no matter where you live it seems! If you have a 7 stud head, then it has the later year cylinder, they are interchangeable.
You mentioned you use Lectron Carbs. Can you elaborate on why you like them vs the traditional 43B-20’s? I’m very curious as I like Lectron’s on my Yamaha’s. Just got an 89 Zilla and trying to decide.
Ease of tuning mostly. We jump around to a lot of different elevations from like 3/400ft to 7/8000ft and places in between. Twisting a metering rod and turning the power jet screw is much easier then carrying a box of jets around.
@@QuadGuyCy What about a 540cc Trinity motor with a Duncan/Paul Turner Exhaust and Pyramid Reeds at under 1000ft elevation. Safe bet or would my 43B-20 with meeting be better in your opinion? Just curious.
@@Noslo_559 Hard to say, the Trinity porting is on the mild side. Has your carb been bored? Or is it still completely stock? I’m not a big fan of the pyramids they don’t seem to let the engine rev out like the vforce 3s do.
Ended up getting a 1990 Quadzilla. Found out the reeds were bad so I bought a stock set. Turns out I have a aftermarket reed cage (I think fmf, which is no longer made) what are my options? Can't seem to find reed cage options for it
Pickup a set of Moto Tassinari VForce 3 reeds. Just confirm it’s a small reed cylinder before ordering. I’ve seen them sold various places. Amazon, eBay.
I remember the two quad zilla I had I had a 88 and an 8988 brand new off the showroom floor for 3400 bucks and the 89 had a 6 inch over swing arm. I bought it off a guy who is getting a divorce in Orange County And I loved both bikes they were beautiful razors and Sans skate twos pipe and car silencer Nerf bars, handlebars, front and rear bumpers my God, the bikes were beautiful and then I did both of them in black plastic. They were awesome I do miss them. Nothing compares to them not even the banshee, because the 500 you sat down behind it and the banshee you sit kind of on top of it and I don’t like that I wanna sit down behind the bike especially with 500 ccI do miss that bike and the stretched one was more of a drag racer. Anyway, sick bikes I had my God.
Hi, I am a new subscriber with a much needed question. Just got a zilla that sat covered with dust in a garage for the past 15+ years. What should I do and don't do? I don't want to try start it and have the engine explode. Would appriciate an answer.
@@adamnft4341 if you have instagram you can message me there. First off clean it, check the air box, intake, and exhaust for any creatures that may have decided to make a home. I’ve seen them completely plugged up by various members of the rodent family. Check it over for anything necessary that maybe missing. Check the fuel tank, put a small amount of fresh fuel in the tank and shake it around then dump the fuel into a bucket see if there is any garbage in the tank. If so clean accordingly. Pull the carburetor apart and inspect. May or may not need cleaned/rebuilt. Pull the spark plug, then use the kick starter to rotate the piston see if it will move, if it does make sure it feels smooth. If that seems all good check if you have spark. Also If you have a compression tester check it. Then drain the transmission oil, check the oil for garbage. If it’s clean, put in fresh. Drain the coolant, most likely flush the cooling sytem with a hose. Refill make sure nothing leaks. If all that checks out you can put it back together and see if it will run. If it starts listen for any “bad” sounds. Let the engine get up to temp check for any water leaks. Lastly and most important if all that checks out and you go to ride it, go over the brakes and check those are all working before hand.
Get on it harder and harder to find..everything is crazy through the roof right now $$$ sucks but makes mine worth a lot more I just had a barn find last year a Duncan Racing replica 525 big bore..I’m in process of breaking it down now with great guidance from our friends page here👍🏻
Unfortunately sport quads have been on life support for a long time now. These older 2 stroke machines are getting pretty niche these days. The Banshee and the Trx250r have the most aftermarket support as those are the most popular, the LT on the other hand is pretty limited. It’s kind of a sad state where things have gone. Hopefully it turns around someday but the 2 strokes are probably never coming back.
I've actually kicked that idea around since this is my most popular video. My biggest problem is getting my hands on the 3 different generations so I could film them all. I'll keep trying, might be able to pull it together sometime.
@@QuadGuyCy if you do it thank you a lot , because there is Litteraly little to no direct information on these quads . I’m 17 and I recently baught an 85 model , and there is little to no information on it, aswell as the best modifications to make . I have to look at forums from 2004 and try and dig out anything I can lol . By the way, the 500 is my dream quad , I hope to have one when I’m older . Great video
@@Yavi250r They've definitely not received the attention they deserve in my opinion. Same goes for the 500, which is why I started this to begin with. Most of the 500 content I was able to find was not very good or helpful which was why I started this. I'll see what I can come up with for some 250 stuff. I do have a friend with a 1st gen I could film and I have 2nd stuffed in a trailer somewhere. I really need a shop though at the moment.
Thank you, and congrats! Depending on what you are looking for, you can still get some OEM stuff from like Rocky Mountain, Babbits, Partzilla. If you're looking for some aftermarket you can try HSDracing.com. Facebook groups are a good place as well. And there's also ebay. I've been running 50:1, and using 10-40 synthetic motor oil in the trans.
Need help with my Zilla! Need a cyclinder head or jug as I’ve heard it been called.. have one laying around you’d sell??mines in rough shape but your videos get me pumped for the restoration
Unfortunately I don't, I did see a couple on ebay recently. They are definitely getting hard to come by. What's wrong with yours? You'd be surprised what is repairable.
Morning, what parts? It really depends on what you are missing. Unfortunately Suzuki has discontinued a few more key pieces in the last 6/8 months. We are trying to come up with a solution for some of them.
NICE …. I HAVE 89 ZILLA. WATER PUMP STARTED LEAKING. DO YOU KNOW WATER PUMP OR IMPELLER PART NUMBER. AND WHERE TO GET ONE. OR DO YOU THINK IT MIGHT JUST BE THE SEALS?? Please let me know Thanks
Impellers have been discontinued unfortunately. A few people have posted in some of the Facebook groups about maybe making some billet ones but I haven’t seen any for sale yet. The seals are still available, you can order those any place really, partzilla, Rocky Mountain atv etc. I have a video I started with all the tips and tricks I know on the water pump. I need to get that done and posted.
Can you do a video on the lectron carbs? I have a 40mm ported factory carb on an older trinity ported 88 cylinder and I’m considering trying the lectron but don’t want to waste money if it’s not an actual gain. Thank you.
I'll certainly add that to my to do list. For me, the biggest advantage is the tuning of it. I jump around to different elevations a lot, from 300 to like 7500 and you can tune what Lectron calls the power jet with the turn of a screw which is super convenient when your out in the sand.
@@QuadGuyCy awesome thank you for the explanation and look forward to a more in depth video. Who would you recommend if I wanted to send the jug out to get ported more?
I have been trying to find contact info for Michael Steiner for a while now. I can't seem to dig it up. Any chance you could point me in the right direction? I have an '87 LT250R that I would really like to have his magic done on. That's a beautiful engine.
I’d say join a few of the LT500 groups on Facebook and look around, or make a post looking for one. They pop up here and there but definitely not every day. They are getting harder to come by.
Not 100% sure but I think the steering stem for the ‘87 is a little shorter than the ‘88+. I have an ‘87 stem in my ‘88 and it rubs the gas tank a bit when turned all the way.
@@tendergreen sorry I miss read that earlier. I’m guessing it’s not so much a height issue as it is the stem is not hitting the steering stops properly like I showed in the video. So you’re actually able to turn further then it’s meant to. I’d think about modifying it like I showed in the video. You don’t want to rub a whole in the fuel tank, they’re not cheap!
QuadGuyCy ya know, disregard what I said about the steering stem. I checked mine and it actually has rubber stops on the stem itself. So now I don’t even know what I have, lol.
QuadGuyCy I did more research and it turns out the last owner installed a LT250R steering stem, lmao. That explains the weird fit. I can credit your video with helping me make this discovery 😂
Sorry I don't at the moment. I'd say your best bet is to join a couple of the lt500 facebook groups and keep an eye open, they pop up somewhat regularly in those.
@@QuadGuyCy thank you. I used to own a 1988 Quadzilla, but had to sell it. I have tried to join different facebook groups, but due to the fact that I own a Banshee and not a Quadzilla, they will not accept my request for a membership.
Biggest problem with the air box is junk Plastic, we mocked up 2 inc abs plumbing pipe with a chop and center line on top to angel around the rear shock spring with a k&n 3x4.5x9" long filter with an outerwear , came off the top of the new aluminum pipe with a 1 Inc round solid aluminum and drilled and tapped for original brace bolt, I had the aluminum pipe mig by a local shop
Yea, they all are. Plus with these things getting to be 30+ years old the plastic is starting to get brittle. I don't run one, but I also only ride mine in the sand. I may put one on the next one I build so I can hit the dirt with it, but dirt and mud just destroys things so badly. Sounds like a neat setup, any pics?
@@QuadGuyCy let me tell you that the aluminum thin wall coundit was tight to get around the spring like 3/16 clearince, took 3 pcs to get around and straight out 2 7/16 inch OD and T bolt clamps , used reinforce rubber hose like marine hose on a pwk 39 bored to 41 , milled Head , did all the reinforcement on the head ears to except the same nuts as the other 2 That go down inside, haven't had it out in years , but watching the video gets my mind going it's a 88 bought it when I was 43 now 65 , going to Costa Mesa Sand sports this Saturday and I have to look at the new speed UTV , quad needs to run on race gas and motoul 800 only tried them all gotta spend some money to keep Piston cool but no more top ends after that I have it written down but I think it liked around 40 or 50 to one , always blead the air off the top of the head after you worme up every time and where you stop on a hill
Good question, I could probably make a 5 minute video out of it. I would say if you're looking for a completely stock ready to ride machine, I would look for the cleanest 88+ with the 7 stud cylinder you could find because of the frame changes, a-arms, and head gasket issues.If I was being really picky I'd try to find a 90. If you're not planning on staying stock and want to build something there's not really a wrong choice.
@@QuadGuyCy Thanks for getting back to me, brother.. I just sold an '86 ATC 250r, I still have my Banshee for 30 years, and am now now in the market for a Quadzilla.. Your video really helped me, and I think the 1st year production of ANY bike is usually a mistake.. That extra stud I heard did fix that gasket problem.. If you know of any good Zillas for sale, please tell them to contact me.. Thanks brother.. 🏁🇺🇸🏁
They’re all good imho. But certain parts are easier to obtain for the later years. I’d say the cleanest one you can find for what you want to pay is the one to get. But the later years do have some minor refinements.Almost all of mine have been 87s.
@@QuadGuyCy I appreciate the quick response! It seems the 87 is easier and cheaper (almost half the cost of 88-90) to find in my area, so I'm wondering with that info, go with a 87 and use the extra money to mod/replace parts.
@@monkeyluva156 you’re welcome. It definitely seems they made more 87s then any other year. You maybe better off with that approach as one thing is for certain. These machines are old and they will need work. I’ve seen people spend money on higher end “freshly restored” machines and immediately turn around and have to throw money at it.
I would say it depends on what you plan to do with it. I don't think there is a better quad for sand, desert, and wider open trails. But it you're in tight, twisty, technical terrain, you can do it, but I feel there are better options if that is your primary use. For instance I also have a Honda 400EX I use for the woods and mud. Maintenance is really the same as any off road machine, change fluids regularly, check the torque on the cylinder, head, and engine cases regularly. The 87 in my riding videos has gone 3 years and around 150/200 hours of operation, and just recently I lost an ignition coil. One of the biggest issues I see are people buy these and don't seem to accept the fact that they are 30+ years old and should really be completely gone through before they decide to ride it.
@@hovavrom It really depends on how tight the trails are. In most places these days if people are driving side by sides in the same trails you’ll be fine. Raptors are decent, I’ve always found the seat height a bit tall for my liking, at least in stock form but they are torquey! Also some people feel they have to have reverse so there’s that. One thing for sure if you buy a zilla and don’t like it you shouldn’t loose any money on it in today’s market.
Hi Dylan, that's awesome to hear. If you are on Facebook I recommend searching out Micheal David Steiner, or Full Tilt Muscle Car Factory in Winfield Kansas.
I had my 87 Quadzilla until last year! I bought it brand spanking new. I bought it when I was 15 yrs old. Did a lot of work to it, bored 1.1 over port polished, balanced, new head, studs, reeds, carb. Took back half of frame off had a guy make it all out of aluminum to save weight. The thing would fly, never had anyone beat me on it on drag races. I would do 3rd gear launches. Now I have a Suzuki 450 R, was thinking of putting a Quadzilla motor in it.. The 450 R just lighter and handles better. Know of anyone doing or done that mod? Thanks
I've seen a few of those, Walsh racing did one, you should be able to find some info on the Walshzilla, which is what I believe they called it. I've been kicking around that idea myself, I haven't been too serious about it yet but I've been keeping an eye open for a usable frame.
That 450 motor can be easily pumped up to 60+ hp ,i wouldn't put a 2stroke in that ! That quad imo is the best sport quad ever made ! That quad is the best racing quad ever made ! Would love to have found one for sale before I got my 2009 outlaw450 mxr (ktm motor) got it 3yrs ago and it's an awesome quad and just as fast as a Suzuki 450. But i woukd love to have the Suzuki 450 .
They're all good! 😁 Visually I've always liked the 87, and that's mostly because it was the first year and that's what started it for me. From a technical standpoint the later years had some significant improvements and are arguably better because of them, at least, in stock form.
I’m 16, just bought myself an 87 quadzilla about two weeks ago. Definitely learned a few things in this vid. I’m currently replacing a bunch of stuff on my zilla like ball joints and tie rods but in a week or two it’s gonna be ready to rip.
Glad to hear it was helpful! Make sure you get everything torqued, especially that pinch bolt on that lower ball joints! Had that come loose on a buddy's luckily the results where mostly uneventful!
Dude you are lucky. I’m 34 and just got my first zilla last year. I dreamed of one when I was your age. Fix it up, don’t beat on it too hard, and never sell it, trust me.
@@tendergreen yea I’m going to try my hardest to take the best care of it possible
I’m about to get an 87 tomorrow. I’d like to link up to get some pointers bud.
@@warwagoninc check frame really good for cracks, they aren’t the best frames. Like with any other quad, make sure it’s straight too. Check around cylinder ears for cracks, as it’s fairly common on zillas, especially if it’s been ported. Run through all the gears, make sure it shifts smooth. Ask what oil mixture he’s running in it, he should be running 32-1. Take out spark plug to make sure it’s not running lean, zilla motors tend to seize up when lean. Check all ball joints, tie rods, wheel bearings, and other bearings, also check steering stem for play in it. Check motor mounting points for cracks, around top motor mount is most common. You actually don’t even need the top motor mount, a lot of people remove it. Make sure the bolt holes are still there where the chain guard bolts on in case a broken chain has flung into the guard and snapped them off. Make sure intake tubes aren’t cracked since you can’t buy those anymore. If fender supports in the rear are bent then check subframe really good for bends/cracks. Also, know in advance parts are hard to find. Joining the zilla groups on Facebook helps a lot.
Video really helped me dude. I just finished a frame up banshee build and now I got a crazy lead on a lt500r barn find . I'm a young guy 28 and love the vintage machines
Glad to hear it helped! Banshees are fun. I'm supposed to get one eventually. Hope the barn find works out! Good to see the younger guys taking an interest in them. Sadly parts are getting scarce...
Those are my Carburetor photos!! I’m flattered!!
R.I.P. Quadzilla Kings..
Awesome to hear you’re flattered!!! Also thank you for posting those! I would have had nothing to work with. Merry Christmas!
That outro song was sick riffage, wasn't expecting that haha nicee
The singer at the end needs a little work though! Lol
Revision!!🤣
Great video! ‘87 owner here getting ready to take on a complete restoration. Liked and subscribed.
Awesome, good luck on your restoration!
I have everything you need to update the upper a arms
awesome video man. Thanks a lot. I live in Canada and the zilla is few and far between up here.
I appreciate your compiling this info into a video.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it. I've heard that, I know a Canadian who must own most of the ones in Canada!
I too have been dealing with the blue screen lol, just waiting on my motherboard and RAM. Bikes almost ready though, just have to redo the seat cover and get the exhaust sandblasted. Keep the vids coming, it was really hard to find certain info on the bike when I needed it, these videos are a HUGE help to us younger guys
Windows, I tell you, I almost considered giving Mac another try. Where you able to get one ordered from Hi-Flight or Ceet? Glad to hear it was helpful, will be going over the engine for the 90 in the next build video.
I just bought two quadzilla’s I can’t wait till they arrive,stuff of my dreams. Great information! subscribed!!!
Thanks for watching and the sub! Did your Zillas arrive yet?
Yes one 87 and one 90, dream come true
I just aquired a 88 lt500R and ill have to say its definitely a learning game that I gota learn since I play with the Honda ATC 250Rs but I couldn't resist getting a 500 and something new to play with....Great video by the way you have a lot of good info that I will definitely take into consideration 👍
Congrats on the acquisition! They are a slightly different beast from the Honda that is for sure. The OEM manual helps a lot if you're tearing into the engine for the first time. Glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching!
Thanks for the vid. I’ve watched a few times in the past year. Wish you would’ve went deeper into the seat differences though. Having a hard time finding that info.
You’re welcome, unfortunately I did not have examples of all 4 seats to film, it’s also why I skipped covering the exhaust differences as well. Anyhow I can tell you the following about the seats. The 87 was all blue with no wording. The 88 was all blue with a No Passenger heat stamped in the cover. The 89 has the same heat stamp, but also QuadRacer in white on the back. The 90 also has the heat stamp, but says SUZUKI in white on the back. Hope that helps.
@@QuadGuyCy thank you very much! Big help
I'm binge watching as well. This video was original and the time you take with the part number overlays and editing is evident. I've subscribed. You'll hit 1000 subs soon.
Thanks for watching! This video was pretty rough, a lot of time involved. I started it thinking it wouldn't be too bad to put together but wow was I wrong! It just kept snowballing into more and more details. I'm actually considering doing an addendum to it as I missed a couple things I intended to cover and have since learned some new as well.
@@QuadGuyCy I enjoy ATV history videos. I suppose that's because I'm a history buff but videos like this are hard to find. Lots of reviews out there but not like this.
@@VermontLife They are! I've also been kicking around building a website in order to document different models since the manufacturers have abandoned so many. Oh and if you get a chance this video shows some of the smooth sand at Little Sahara I was referring to after a good wind. th-cam.com/video/snBpopaKcmk/w-d-xo.html
Greetings from the deep freeze called Texas, I like this series your doing on the Zilla, hope to find a good one someday, keep up the good work,
really like the the differences you point out on the different year models.
Hope your staying warm, I have some friends down there said it's been a little crazy. They are out there, prices have been going up a lot lately. Glad you're enjoying it!
I am looking to buy a 500. I am about your age. I have a lt250r and a TRX 250r. The 500 is next on my list. This video helped me to understand the 4 years of changes. Subscribed to you channel. Looks cool. Looking forward to more videos. Thank you.
Glad I could help! The TRX has been on the wish list for a while just never find the right one at the right time it seems. Will be more coming soon!
Awesome content here, enjoyed the comparison and discussion about parts availability. So, I'm picking up an 87 zilla tomorrow. My first 500! I have 3 LT250r's and love them. If I have a question or two it looks like this is a great place!
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it! Also congrats on your new acquisition! Feel free to ask questions. I really want to do some LT250R content and some more tech oriented videos in the future but currently without a shop…
Definitely learned a couple things in this video. I have a 87 500 myself
Awesome to hear that!
I just bought a lt500r and your helping me so much with these videos thanks 🙏
Glad to help!
Great vid Cyrus! It was great meeting you recently. Look forward to riding with you sometime!
Thank you sir! It was a good time meeting you as well, it was nice seeing your collection in person. Even though I didn't get back to Ohio until 9:30, lol UGH! Definitely need to hit the sand sometime!
Can't wait to pick up my 89 tomorrow. She needs some tlc but I wanted a project. Wish parts were as easy to find for the lt as the 250r
You and I both! Call Suzuki yell at them to make more parts! I've tried.
@@QuadGuyCy even after market. From what I've seen looking through different groups and what not there's still a pretty decent demand for the parts. Be nice to see a company step up to help keep these legends alive
@@mr.mackey6370 I really wish they would! Full Tilt and I are kicking around a few things but we're still working out the details.
I made a jig to convert 87 upper A-arms to 88 style. also made tabs to weld on the frame. FYI, the ltz400 lower A-arms use the same bearings.
I've seen a few changed over, are you modding the upper arms or just switching them out for the later version? That's good to hear!
Great video man! Would love to see more.
Thanks Scott, will do!
Awsome video. Need a video on the lt250r and the lt230s and lt250s at some point 🤙🏼
Thanks! If I can get my hands on all that information, images and video to go with it I will! I have an 89 250R I plan to get to after this but def. don't have the parts on hand to show differences.
The letter "i" is not used much as to not confuse it with the number one and the lower case "L".
I wish the world would skip O as well!
Absolute wealth of knowledge....thank you for taking the time, and very nice quads
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Hello I know this is about 500s but the 1987 250 also had the 8 pedal read cage and was also changed to the 6 pedal in 1988 and up
You are correct about the reeds themselves, but the cages are different on the 87s between the 250 and the 500. 88 and up they used the same assembly. I probably messed up explaining that.
Nice Lunchbox! Wanted one bad back in the day.
Still one of my favorites! Building a Clodbuster pretty soon.
@@QuadGuyCy I had a Clodbuster! Nothing comparable to today's offerings but mind blowing at the time. 4x4x4. My dad's ride was a Blackfoot. Good bit faster than the Buster but not near as cool.
@@triple6758 They certainly don't compare to the modern cars. They are fun for what they are. I find it comical how many times the Arma and Traxxas stuff has all been broken but here comes the Lunchbox and Midnight Pumpkin!
Great piece of knowledge for this rare beast
Glad you enjoyed it!
When was the first year on the quadzilla they came out with the block because I looked at a 1987 Zoe and it didn't have the block it had a setup like the lt250r quadracer and you could turn it with a pipe wrench I didn't think the block came out until 89
When you say block are you referring to the chain adjustment?
Also first year LT500 is 1987. And if you are referring to the chain adjustment the LT500 all years was the block style. Suzuki carried that design over to all years of the Z400 as far as I know. If you are thinking of the round carrier, chain adjustment, that was the first gen LT250.
Great video its good stuff to know. I've redone my 1989 LT 500.
Thank you!
You videos just recently got recommended to me and I just binge watched some of them. Absolutely awesome content. I love build series. You should invest in a pit posse lift from eBay. Huge back saved and their only like 150 bucks. Keep up the great content. I subscribed 👍🏼
Awesome to hear, glad you enjoyed them! Thanks for the recommendation on the lift, I'll definitely check that out. I have metal cart I've used in the past, it's nice to build on but it's manual job getting them on and off of it.
Great video 👍 I’ve been having trouble finding information like this for the lt250r too. Liked and subscribed keep up the great work!
Thanks! I've kicked around doing a 250R version I just don't have much 250 stuff to film. May have to talk to a buddy of mine about it.
Great info my friend
Thank you!
Very nice you nailed it I got a new 87 250 quad racer in 87 my buddy a 87 500 those were the days I was 15 I was so lucky to ride all those machines 250 R Honda’s as well pretty much everything except a banshee of all things back in the day but bought one of those in 99 but that’s what all that was left lol
Thanks! You where lucky to ride all those! I was a little younger, started on a trx125 then a trx200sx and followed it with an LT250 then a 500 but the LTs where all used by then in the early 90s but where still decent shape. I've had an LT500 in some fashion since about 93.
@@QuadGuyCy your welcome 👍🏻 and some 86 quad sports as well
@@justsomeone6835 I always liked the quad sport
Excellent video man, definitely helped clear up some of the gray areas for me. Keep it up 👍👍🤙
Glad it helped! Working on more.
Thank you for doing the videos your the best knowledge is key
You're welcome I really appreciate that!
This is an outstanding video. Just wow.
Thank you for the kind words!
The newer intake design was smaller to increase velocity and Make the throttle response more crisp.
Agreed!
We appreciate you quadguycy!! Great video
Thanks Caleb, I appreciate you watching!
Hi Cyrus, great video and the information was very informative. Do you know where to get the upper arm bearings? what is someone suppose to do when they have to replace them?
Thanks Nin glad you enjoyed it! So far I personally haven’t had to source those parts yet. Let me check around I believe someone had posted a bearing size or number they found that would work. The races on the other hand would have to be made. I’ll see what I can find.
fantastic video...very glad you are doing this...and sharing this wisdom! Will subscribe!
Welcome aboard!
@@QuadGuyCy here's my 1990: www.bikepics.com/pictures/1998355/1990-suzuki-lt-500 I need to do a video review of her...
great stuff, keep it coming!
Thanks, will do!
Great vidd man..I'm buying a Lt 250..1987 and wanting to digg up info on it..I has a 87 Zilla back in 2002-03. Miss it..but it was a heavy heavy bitch..but luvved it..any tips on the 250 u have please let me know..thanks...Ray
Thank you! I have a 250 but haven’t had much time to get to anything lately. I actually have plans to get a some 250s together and do a similar video at some point in time. There’s sis much to the 250s it might actually take several videos. Also with the 250 a lot depends on which generation you get, 1,2,3
I am a fan of the old Zilla. I ?Grew up? on one. My dad and all his friends had them and we would rally around the Oregon dunes. I now have the one my dad first bought. It is an '87 and it is hard to start. You mentioned the Electron Carb. I recently was reading about these. Do you have any advice you are willing to share? Model? Tips to run them on a Zilla? I also have a big bored YFZ 450. Just as you say. Different tool, different jobs. I do have to say there is not much like riding the ol' Zilla but I sure appreciate the electric start of my YFZ. I dig your enthusiasm. Keep it up.
That's awesome that you still have your dad's Zilla! Being hard to start any idea how many hours the top end has on it? I'd start with a compression test before switching around carbs. Especially if it was fine before and started getting more difficult. Is it a mostly stock machine? I'm a fan of the Lectron due to constantly chaning elevations. They can be some work to get dialed in but once there it's really nice just being able to bump the powerjet screw in or out for some fine tuning. Which model carb really depends on pipe, cylinder, porting, etc. Electric start is pretty hard to beat, been noticing it more as I get older.
Dude nice video!!! I built a 87 zilla it is hard to find parts here in the Netherlands 🙄 , but i have a 87 zilla but i have in my cilinder head 7 stuts 🤔
Thank you! Parts are getting hard to obtain no matter where you live it seems! If you have a 7 stud head, then it has the later year cylinder, they are interchangeable.
thanks for the vid. i have a 87 lt500. i need a carberator,front right caliper and silencer, or sell for 4000
You're welcome! I'd jump into some of the Quadzilla Facebook groups. Lots of people post parts for sale plus you can post what you;re looking for.
You mentioned you use Lectron Carbs. Can you elaborate on why you like them vs the traditional 43B-20’s? I’m very curious as I like Lectron’s on my Yamaha’s. Just got an 89 Zilla and trying to decide.
Ease of tuning mostly. We jump around to a lot of different elevations from like 3/400ft to 7/8000ft and places in between. Twisting a metering rod and turning the power jet screw is much easier then carrying a box of jets around.
@@QuadGuyCy What about a 540cc Trinity motor with a Duncan/Paul Turner Exhaust and Pyramid Reeds at under 1000ft elevation. Safe bet or would my 43B-20 with meeting be better in your opinion? Just curious.
@@Noslo_559 Hard to say, the Trinity porting is on the mild side. Has your carb been bored? Or is it still completely stock? I’m not a big fan of the pyramids they don’t seem to let the engine rev out like the vforce 3s do.
Ended up getting a 1990 Quadzilla. Found out the reeds were bad so I bought a stock set. Turns out I have a aftermarket reed cage (I think fmf, which is no longer made) what are my options? Can't seem to find reed cage options for it
Pickup a set of Moto Tassinari VForce 3 reeds. Just confirm it’s a small reed cylinder before ordering. I’ve seen them sold various places. Amazon, eBay.
I remember the two quad zilla I had I had a 88 and an 8988 brand new off the showroom floor for 3400 bucks and the 89 had a 6 inch over swing arm. I bought it off a guy who is getting a divorce in Orange County And I loved both bikes they were beautiful razors and Sans skate twos pipe and car silencer Nerf bars, handlebars, front and rear bumpers my God, the bikes were beautiful and then I did both of them in black plastic. They were awesome I do miss them. Nothing compares to them not even the banshee, because the 500 you sat down behind it and the banshee you sit kind of on top of it and I don’t like that I wanna sit down behind the bike especially with 500 ccI do miss that bike and the stretched one was more of a drag racer. Anyway, sick bikes I had my God.
Sounds like you’re still a member of the club who gets it! Awesome you had a chance to own 2 back then!
I liked the same years in the 250 Quad Racer
Just came across this, pretty awesome like your videos.
Thank you sir! Appreciate the kind words! Should have some more stuff here soon hopefully.
hey man good video and good info !!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed!
Well done and very informative...and funny. Thank you -
Glad you enjoyed it!
Keep those videos coming my man!!
Working on it, finding time to edit is rough!
Hi, I am a new subscriber with a much needed question.
Just got a zilla that sat covered with dust in a garage for the past 15+ years.
What should I do and don't do?
I don't want to try start it and have the engine explode.
Would appriciate an answer.
Also, if you have an email I can contact you would be amazing.
Thanx
@@adamnft4341 if you have instagram you can message me there. First off clean it, check the air box, intake, and exhaust for any creatures that may have decided to make a home. I’ve seen them completely plugged up by various members of the rodent family. Check it over for anything necessary that maybe missing. Check the fuel tank, put a small amount of fresh fuel in the tank and shake it around then dump the fuel into a bucket see if there is any garbage in the tank. If so clean accordingly. Pull the carburetor apart and inspect. May or may not need cleaned/rebuilt. Pull the spark plug, then use the kick starter to rotate the piston see if it will move, if it does make sure it feels smooth. If that seems all good check if you have spark. Also If you have a compression tester check it. Then drain the transmission oil, check the oil for garbage. If it’s clean, put in fresh. Drain the coolant, most likely flush the cooling sytem with a hose. Refill make sure nothing leaks. If all that checks out you can put it back together and see if it will run. If it starts listen for any “bad” sounds. Let the engine get up to temp check for any water leaks. Lastly and most important if all that checks out and you go to ride it, go over the brakes and check those are all working before hand.
@@QuadGuyCy legend. Thank you so much for this answer.
You didn't miss a thing.
Will sure follow you on IG
I have the M103 engine version. Quadzilla looking to sell it.
What kind of shape is it in?
Good stuff keep em coming👍🏻👍🏻
awesomeness. Outstanding overview. searching for lt500 presently. now own lt80 & LT250R.
#SUPERBEAST
Get on it harder and harder to find..everything is crazy through the roof right now $$$ sucks but makes mine worth a lot more I just had a barn find last year a Duncan Racing replica 525 big bore..I’m in process of breaking it down now with great guidance from our friends page here👍🏻
Awesome video keep up the great work love your content from the uk
Thank you! I plan on it!
Looking for the barrel nuts for the cylinder. Any help?
Full Tilt is in the process of having some made. Not sure when they will be available just yet but soon hopefully.
Is the 2-stroke ATV sport dead?
Wish Honda and Suzuki bring back those great two stroke sport quads, TRX250R and LT500R.
Unfortunately sport quads have been on life support for a long time now. These older 2 stroke machines are getting pretty niche these days. The Banshee and the Trx250r have the most aftermarket support as those are the most popular, the LT on the other hand is pretty limited. It’s kind of a sad state where things have gone. Hopefully it turns around someday but the 2 strokes are probably never coming back.
I don't think 4strokes will either ! At least bring back the 450 track/trail quads!
And the 87 was the only year with the 8 pedal reed cage as well
That is correct. I’ve been kicking around adding an addendum to this video.
Thanks bud. First time watching you
Thank you for watching!
where would you have the jug done for the oring?
Full Tilt Muscle Machine Factory - 620.221.6548
Hey if possible can you also make a video comparing the 250s , there’s literally no video that does it
I've actually kicked that idea around since this is my most popular video. My biggest problem is getting my hands on the 3 different generations so I could film them all. I'll keep trying, might be able to pull it together sometime.
@@QuadGuyCy if you do it thank you a lot , because there is Litteraly little to no direct information on these quads . I’m 17 and I recently baught an 85 model , and there is little to no information on it, aswell as the best modifications to make . I have to look at forums from 2004 and try and dig out anything I can lol . By the way, the 500 is my dream quad , I hope to have one when I’m older . Great video
@@Yavi250r They've definitely not received the attention they deserve in my opinion. Same goes for the 500, which is why I started this to begin with. Most of the 500 content I was able to find was not very good or helpful which was why I started this. I'll see what I can come up with for some 250 stuff. I do have a friend with a 1st gen I could film and I have 2nd stuffed in a trailer somewhere. I really need a shop though at the moment.
Liked this video. I just got an 89 Zilla. Any info on parts websites etc would be great! And gear oil type? Change video? Fuel mixture ratio?
Thank you, and congrats! Depending on what you are looking for, you can still get some OEM stuff from like Rocky Mountain, Babbits, Partzilla. If you're looking for some aftermarket you can try HSDracing.com. Facebook groups are a good place as well. And there's also ebay. I've been running 50:1, and using 10-40 synthetic motor oil in the trans.
Do you know where I can find a set of OEM plastics? I got an 87 I’m trying to fix.
The prices I've seen for OEM plastics in the last coupe years is crazy. Best bet would be to join a couple of the facebook groups and ask around.
I'm cant find any for my 450 and aftermarket stopped making them ! I can't imagine what a set of plastic,s go for that quad u have !
Rock on Quad guy! I'm a quad guy too. Dirtbikes are ok. Sport quads rule. Got 2 Yamahas.. pristine '11 YFZ450X / '21 Raptor 700R-SE. #Yamaha -Ohio
Nice! How do you like the 450? I’ve not had a chance to trail ride one.
Need help with my Zilla! Need a cyclinder head or jug as I’ve heard it been called.. have one laying around you’d sell??mines in rough shape but your videos get me pumped for the restoration
Unfortunately I don't, I did see a couple on ebay recently. They are definitely getting hard to come by. What's wrong with yours? You'd be surprised what is repairable.
still in need of one?
@@dbchevy do you have a bottom end to a lt500r I'm in need of a good bottom end
Good morning my friend i am rebuilding a suzuki lt 500 and i am missing some parts where i can get
Morning, what parts? It really depends on what you are missing. Unfortunately Suzuki has discontinued a few more key pieces in the last 6/8 months. We are trying to come up with a solution for some of them.
@@QuadGuyCy good morning I need the engine mouting the exhaust complete plastic and the hose that goes from the air box To the carburetor
NICE …. I HAVE 89 ZILLA. WATER PUMP STARTED LEAKING. DO YOU KNOW WATER PUMP OR IMPELLER PART NUMBER. AND WHERE TO GET ONE. OR DO YOU THINK IT MIGHT JUST BE THE SEALS?? Please let me know Thanks
Impellers have been discontinued unfortunately. A few people have posted in some of the Facebook groups about maybe making some billet ones but I haven’t seen any for sale yet. The seals are still available, you can order those any place really, partzilla, Rocky Mountain atv etc. I have a video I started with all the tips and tricks I know on the water pump. I need to get that done and posted.
Can you do a video on the lectron carbs? I have a 40mm ported factory carb on an older trinity ported 88 cylinder and I’m considering trying the lectron but don’t want to waste money if it’s not an actual gain. Thank you.
I'll certainly add that to my to do list. For me, the biggest advantage is the tuning of it. I jump around to different elevations a lot, from 300 to like 7500 and you can tune what Lectron calls the power jet with the turn of a screw which is super convenient when your out in the sand.
@@QuadGuyCy awesome thank you for the explanation and look forward to a more in depth video. Who would you recommend if I wanted to send the jug out to get ported more?
I have been trying to find contact info for Michael Steiner for a while now. I can't seem to dig it up. Any chance you could point me in the right direction? I have an '87 LT250R that I would really like to have his magic done on. That's a beautiful engine.
Yes sir, 620.218.4334. Tell him I sent you!
@@QuadGuyCy Thank you very much! I will certainly do that.
Do you know where to find a complete 500cc motor to put on my 450 frame ?
I’d say join a few of the LT500 groups on Facebook and look around, or make a post looking for one. They pop up here and there but definitely not every day. They are getting harder to come by.
Trade up and put a 600cc out of a kaw ninja look on yt it will show you what motor works best .that motor isn't a good one .
great video
Glad you enjoyed it
Great video!
Thanks!
very good information sir much appreciated
Glad it was helpful!
Not 100% sure but I think the steering stem for the ‘87 is a little shorter than the ‘88+. I have an ‘87 stem in my ‘88 and it rubs the gas tank a bit when turned all the way.
I'll have to do some measuring and check that out. I's possible you have a worn bushing on the steering stem mount at the bottom.
QuadGuyCy I put on brand new pivot works bushings recently 😎
@@tendergreen sorry I miss read that earlier. I’m guessing it’s not so much a height issue as it is the stem is not hitting the steering stops properly like I showed in the video. So you’re actually able to turn further then it’s meant to. I’d think about modifying it like I showed in the video. You don’t want to rub a whole in the fuel tank, they’re not cheap!
QuadGuyCy ya know, disregard what I said about the steering stem. I checked mine and it actually has rubber stops on the stem itself. So now I don’t even know what I have, lol.
QuadGuyCy I did more research and it turns out the last owner installed a LT250R steering stem, lmao. That explains the weird fit. I can credit your video with helping me make this discovery 😂
Im looking for a quadzilla rolling chassis. Do you have one available?
Sorry I don't at the moment. I'd say your best bet is to join a couple of the lt500 facebook groups and keep an eye open, they pop up somewhat regularly in those.
@@QuadGuyCy thank you. I used to own a 1988 Quadzilla, but had to sell it. I have tried to join different facebook groups, but due to the fact that I own a Banshee and not a Quadzilla, they will not accept my request for a membership.
I found a rolling chassis. Do you have an engine for sale?
@@tywyatt7155 Awesome! Unfortunately I don’t at the moment. I always have my eyes open though.
Do you know the stock front wheel offset for a 87 Zilla. Would 3+2 work well
I believe 3+2 is stock.
Makes me miss mine
And that's why I'll never sell!
Like always very informative!!! And definitely good taste on music.
Thank you, good to hear someone enjoys my taste in music. Having playing in several metal bands I was concerned it might have been a bit much.
Suzuki should come back with it and watch it sell
That would be amazing if they would!
Do you have/ever come by any for sale at a decent price
In the current market not to often. Stuff that was $1500 is now bringing 2500+
Those pc pop ups where hilarious
Glad you liked them I wasn't sure how they would go over, they almost didn't make it.
I loved the 1989 and 1990 the most
Agreed!
Love the video man!
Glad you enjoyed it!! Good luck with yours!
My uncle had a 1988 Suzuki quad zilla
Biggest problem with the air box is junk
Plastic, we mocked up 2 inc abs plumbing pipe with a chop and center line on top to angel around the rear shock spring with a k&n 3x4.5x9" long filter with an outerwear , came off the top of the new aluminum pipe with a 1 Inc round solid aluminum and drilled and tapped for original brace bolt,
I had the aluminum pipe mig by a local shop
Yea, they all are. Plus with these things getting to be 30+ years old the plastic is starting to get brittle. I don't run one, but I also only ride mine in the sand. I may put one on the next one I build so I can hit the dirt with it, but dirt and mud just destroys things so badly. Sounds like a neat setup, any pics?
@@QuadGuyCy let me tell you that the aluminum thin wall coundit was tight to get around the spring like 3/16 clearince, took 3 pcs to get around and straight out 2 7/16 inch OD and T bolt clamps , used reinforce rubber hose like marine hose on a pwk 39 bored to 41 , milled Head , did all the reinforcement on the head ears to except the same nuts as the other 2
That go down inside, haven't had it out in years , but watching the video gets my mind going it's a 88 bought it when I was 43 now 65 , going to Costa Mesa Sand sports this Saturday and I have to look at the new speed UTV , quad needs to run on race gas and motoul 800 only tried them all gotta spend some money to keep Piston cool but no more top ends after that I have it written down but I think it liked around 40 or 50 to one , always blead the air off the top of the head after you worme up every time and where you stop on a hill
These are so rare I think I’ve seen only 3 ever in the Uk
From what I have heard from others there does not seem to be too many over there.
@@QuadGuyCy ……True….the ones I’ve seen for sale are around the £6000 mark
Need more videos nobody ever post them
Working on it
I always loved Mikuni carbs best
I like them, then started using the Lectrons.
In your opinion, what's the best year to but..? Reliability, etc.....?
Good question, I could probably make a 5 minute video out of it. I would say if you're looking for a completely stock ready to ride machine, I would look for the cleanest 88+ with the 7 stud cylinder you could find because of the frame changes, a-arms, and head gasket issues.If I was being really picky I'd try to find a 90. If you're not planning on staying stock and want to build something there's not really a wrong choice.
@@QuadGuyCy Thanks for getting back to me, brother.. I just sold an '86 ATC 250r, I still have my Banshee for 30 years, and am now now in the market for a Quadzilla.. Your video really helped me, and I think the 1st year production of ANY bike is usually a mistake.. That extra stud I heard did fix that gasket problem.. If you know of any good
Zillas for sale, please tell them to contact me.. Thanks brother.. 🏁🇺🇸🏁
NICE. THANK YOU 🤙🤙🤙
You’re welcome!!
Thorough, holy shit....awesome
Thank you! I'm wanting to add some more to this for people who maybe trying to do a stock restore but getting footage of the parts is difficult.
So buying my 1st zilla, should I buy an 87 or 88-90?
They’re all good imho. But certain parts are easier to obtain for the later years. I’d say the cleanest one you can find for what you want to pay is the one to get. But the later years do have some minor refinements.Almost all of mine have been 87s.
@@QuadGuyCy I appreciate the quick response! It seems the 87 is easier and cheaper (almost half the cost of 88-90) to find in my area, so I'm wondering with that info, go with a 87 and use the extra money to mod/replace parts.
@@monkeyluva156 you’re welcome. It definitely seems they made more 87s then any other year. You maybe better off with that approach as one thing is for certain. These machines are old and they will need work. I’ve seen people
spend money on higher end “freshly restored” machines and immediately turn around and have to throw money at it.
All mine had flat slides factory
Would you recommend this quad? How should you maintain it? Is it reliable?
I would say it depends on what you plan to do with it. I don't think there is a better quad for sand, desert, and wider open trails. But it you're in tight, twisty, technical terrain, you can do it, but I feel there are better options if that is your primary use. For instance I also have a Honda 400EX I use for the woods and mud. Maintenance is really the same as any off road machine, change fluids regularly, check the torque on the cylinder, head, and engine cases regularly. The 87 in my riding videos has gone 3 years and around 150/200 hours of operation, and just recently I lost an ignition coil. One of the biggest issues I see are people buy these and don't seem to accept the fact that they are 30+ years old and should really be completely gone through before they decide to ride it.
@@QuadGuyCy
Thank you!!!!
I want to use it mostly for woods and trails. Will it fit the use? Should I get a raptor instead?
@@hovavrom It really depends on how tight the trails are. In most places these days if people are driving side by sides in the same trails you’ll be fine. Raptors are decent, I’ve always found the seat height a bit tall for my liking, at least in stock form but they are torquey! Also some people feel they have to have reverse so there’s that. One thing for sure if you buy a zilla and don’t like it you shouldn’t loose any money on it in today’s market.
I have an 87 myself my dad gave it to my it’s a very important bike any info on the right person I can send my engine to for a full rebuild ??
Hi Dylan, that's awesome to hear. If you are on Facebook I recommend searching out Micheal David Steiner, or Full Tilt Muscle Car Factory in Winfield Kansas.
I had my 87 Quadzilla until last year! I bought it brand spanking new. I bought it when I was 15 yrs old. Did a lot of work to it, bored 1.1 over port polished, balanced, new head, studs, reeds, carb. Took back half of frame off had a guy make it all out of aluminum to save weight. The thing would fly, never had anyone beat me on it on drag races. I would do 3rd gear launches. Now I have a Suzuki 450 R, was thinking of putting a Quadzilla motor in it.. The 450 R just lighter and handles better. Know of anyone doing or done that mod? Thanks
I've seen a few of those, Walsh racing did one, you should be able to find some info on the Walshzilla, which is what I believe they called it. I've been kicking around that idea myself, I haven't been too serious about it yet but I've been keeping an eye open for a usable frame.
That 450 motor can be easily pumped up to 60+ hp ,i wouldn't put a 2stroke in that ! That quad imo is the best sport quad ever made ! That quad is the best racing quad ever made ! Would love to have found one for sale before I got my 2009 outlaw450 mxr (ktm motor) got it 3yrs ago and it's an awesome quad and just as fast as a Suzuki 450. But i woukd love to have the Suzuki 450 .
awesome vid !
Thanks!
Thanks QuadGUY
You're welcome
So which year do you think is best?
They're all good! 😁 Visually I've always liked the 87, and that's mostly because it was the first year and that's what started it for me. From a technical standpoint the later years had some significant improvements and are arguably better because of them, at least, in stock form.