Genesis 2: The Dust and The Rib
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- Thanks to scholars Ben Stanhope and John Walton for reviewing this video.
Correction at 11:02. The text on the screen should be "Ishah - אישה"
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John Walton - Genesis: Application Commentary
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John Walton - The Lost World of Adam and Eve
John Walton - Ancient Near Eastern Thought and The Old Testament, Second Edition
Tryggve Mettinger - The Eden Narrative
G.K. Beale - The Temple and the Church's Mission
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Kenneth A. Matthew - The New American Commentary: Genesis 1:1 - Genesis 11:26
John Sailhamer - Genesis Unbound
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Michael V. Fox - Proverbs 10-31
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This is the best Christian channel I've ever found. Thoughtful, well-researched and it feels like there's real wisdom in a lot that is discussed.
@@theguyver4934 hey, I wanted to ask a question. What brought you to Islam and why did you convert. All the best.
I whole heartedly agree, the explanation is just fantastic
@@theguyver4934 how could watch this great video and talk about Islam.
Your religion screams of one that was curated by a man. You have no historical evidence to corroborate Mohammad.
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@@theguyver4934Jesus drank wine and probably ate pork and other meat
"One flesh" is both a metaphor AND a literal statement. In the act of copulation the man and woman join their bodies together as one, and in doing so a new life is created from that joining.
Indeed. God created Eve from Adam's rib in order to show oneness of a husband and wife. The two were one before Eve was created. They are reunited to be one flesh again in marriage. That's is why the wife takes the surname of her husband to make the two into one unit through marriage
Lols @ "act of copulation" 🤣🙌🏽.
Simple.
The fact you think that way doesn't mean the text was designed to be read that way. That's the point of studying the cultural context, and that's exactly why IP shows that in his videos.
@@Joleyn-Joy If you believe that the book of Genesis is simply literature, then you can read it however you like. Imagine whatever "poetry" suits your particular paradigm. If, however, you believe that it is MORE than that, and is actually divine truth in written form, then you must look to interpret it through a more holistic way...one that fits best with the rest of divine scripture.
I had never thought of the ordering & creation of Eden as being 'at the center of the cosmos', or being the 'temple where humans can meet with God'. A relentless amount of internet difficulties, oddly, led me to this video - I love seeing how God works - thank you for these insights.
The literalness of Genesis isn't all or nothing. It's not "either it's all literal or it's all metaphorical." No one is making that argument. Just because "one flesh" isn't hyperliteral doesn't mean there's a lot of ambiguity in interpreting Genesis. Jesus called Himself "a door," does that mean that all of His claims should be interpreted through a metaphorical lens to harmonize the events of His life to modern scientific thought?
The wordplay stuff is also odd. If you hear "kleenex" you wouldn't say it's wordplay because that's what tissues are called. Can't "Adam" come from it's original use?
Levi Paladin amen something’s men shouldn’t try to understand alone. Or more things gets made up ppl get confused more
@Daniel Paulson Are you having trouble? The Bible says to pray for wisdom. God's not trying to trick you, but your desires (whether an itch in your ear or loins) can lead you into poor presuppositions. The message doesn't deceive if you read with the mind of Christ.
Scripture works in similitudes
There may be many denominations and interpretations today, but only one can be historically traced back to the days of the Holy Apostles and their students who wrote, edited and complied what is today known as New Testament.
@@TheChurchIsLikenUntoTheMoon Do you believe it's all similitudes?
This series is absolutely great! Only now I realize how much people have misinterpreted the Holy Scripture, just because they tried to force it into their own understanding of the world. It's astounding how simple the Bible gets when we try to read it through the prism of the era and culture it was written in. All the pieces fit perfectly, like a puzzle.
Continue with your amazing work, God bless you! Sincerely from an Orthodox Christian.
I sense great rebellion and arrogance in people like YEC and flat earthers. They cannot accept the simple fact that maybe they are just that simple minded and uninformed, just that foolish to understand the deeper interpretation of the scripture. They are ready to rebel against all study, all reason just to keep themselves in a position of being right.
Stop believing that a human needing to relieve himself, eat, drink, ignorant of facts and that never claimed to be God is God. You'll be one step closer to the worship of the God of Abraham. Understand that Paul messed it all up. Never did God ever support a human-god or trinitarian theology, never. The OT never makes such a claim and the fact that Christians have to take such a theology from Paul and can't even find a clear theological passage from the Gospels (which by the way show clear cut contradictions and word of human, not of God) is more than enough (but it's not all of it of course) to prove that Christian doctrine is false.
Moreover the contingency argument proves the trinity as false with a KO reflection: accepting that there is a Necessary Being with necessary intrinsic fundamental attributes, then the fact the each person of the trinity is distinguished from the other means that the attribute of being say the Son instead of the Spirit is not a necessary attribute but contingent. So each person has fundamentally necessary attributes for instance BUT the attribute itself of being the Father, Son or Holy Spirit is in itself contingent, hence the trinity is contignent, hence it's a false doctrine inapplicable to God. This is of course ignoring the fact that the trinity "changed" post-incarnation or that claiming that these three person being one being resolves the thing is only valid if you have only one person, that related to his creation via various modes. I, for instance, am a son, a husband, a brother but I am still me, one person and one being. This is the tip of the iceberg in crushing the trinity.
Life is too short to believe in a false thing just because it sounds nice or because of peer societal pressure. And the matter of God is too serious to "hope" that one's faith is true based on weak arguments. There is only one religion on Earth that accepts Jesus as the Messiah without making him an idol, the religion of Noah, of Abraham, of Moses, of Jesus and of Muhammad. Don't trust the media rumblings on islam=terrorism. You wanna believe in Jesus as his dispiples did, then there's only one way to go.
It's so simple if you just free yourself from the bias of presuming christianity as true:
"Say, [O believers], "We have believed in God and what has been revealed to us and what has been revealed to Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the Descendants and what was given to Moses and Jesus and what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him." (Surah Baqarah)
"Say: He is God, the One and Only;
God, the Eternal, Absolute;
He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
And there is none like unto Him" (Surah Ikhlas)
"For I am God and NOT MAN, the Holy One in your midst,
And I will not come in [a]wrath." (Hosea 11:9)
"God is NOT A MAN" (Numbers 23:19)
"The Lord’s word is flawless" (Psalm 18:30)
"He will not let your foot slip-
he who watches over you will not slumber;
indeed, he who watches over Israel
will neither SLUMBER nor SLEEP" (Psalm 121:3-4)
"God! There is no deity but Him, the Alive, the Eternal.
Neither SLUMBER nor SLEEPovertaketh Him." (Quran 2:255)
"“The multitude of your sacrifices-
what are they to me?” says the Lord.
“I have more than enough of burnt offerings,
of rams and the fat of fattened animals;
I have no pleasure
in the blood of bulls and LAMBS and goats.[...]
Wash and make yourselves clean.
Take your evil deeds out of my sight;
stop doing wrong.
Learn to do right; seek justice.
Defend the oppressed.[a]
Take up the cause of the fatherless;
plead the case of the widow. (Isaiah 1)"
"The Lord is the everlasting God,
the Creator of the ends of the earth.
He will not grow tired or weary,
and his understanding no one can fathom.
He gives strength to the weary
and increases the power of the weak.
Even youths grow tired and weary,
and young men stumble and fall" (Isaiah 40)
"Those who consecrate and purify themselves to go into the gardens, following one who is among those who eat the flesh of PIGS, rats and other unclean things-they will meet their end together with the one they follow,” declares the Lord." (Isaiah 66)
"who eat the flesh of PIGS,
and whose pots hold broth of impure meat;
who say, ‘Keep away; don’t come near me,
for I am too sacred for you!’
Such people are smoke in my nostrils,
a fire that keeps burning all day" (Isaiah 65)
"Say, "I do not find within that which was revealed to me [anything] forbidden to one who would eat it unless it be a dead animal or blood spilled out or the flesh of SWINE- for indeed, it is impure" (Quran 6:145)
" There is nothing like unto Him, and He is the All-Hearer, the All-Seer" (Quran 41:11)
Leave idolatry and come to the love of the Messiah as he would want you to love him and rever him. For the day he'll return he'll have nothing to do with any trinity.
"And (remember) when God will say (on the Day of Resurrection): "O 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)! Did you say unto men: 'Take me and my mother as two objects of worship with God?' " He will say: "Glory be to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would surely have known it. You know what is in my inner-self though I do not know what is in Yours, truly, You, only You, are the All-Knower of all that is hidden and unseen". (Quran 5:116)
@@DavidBlagic156945 - or they know of a number of verses that the video fails to take into consideration.
To dismiss them all as narrow-minded and unthinking would be... Narrowminded and unthinking.
@@timffoster See the above comment for a crash-course in how to misuse scripture to support your own ideas.
@@AnswerEasy islam is the worst religion to ever exist as far as it's followers actions and your just as guilty of hate as any christian and your treatment of women is horrible so nothing you can say will convince me allah is worth my time just like nothing will convince me the christian god is worth my time
If I knew all this before I would have never become an atheist all those years ago. I became a Christian again about a year ago after 15 years of atheism. I enjoy your content. I hope more people can see how deep Theology really is and how it doesn't contradict our modern world.
amen to that
And isn't that the overall point in this reinterpretation of Genesis - to distance itself from a plain reading of scripture - what they call "literal" - and make it more acceptable to a worldly mindset that's been saturated with evolutionary thinking where death comes before sin.
Atheists (and even some Christians) tend to have an infantile view of Christianity. I've come to the conclusion that most atheists want to believe, but their reason bars them from accepting due to their own misconceptions of the faith, which in turn makes them bitter and resentful.
@@david-spliso1928 Well no. You see im doing my Masters degree in Roman History. I can tell you right here and now that our views or the Romans and Greeks are extremely different. Romans wrote in ways that we English speakers today could easily misinterpret. Same thing happens with the Hebrews. I don't know Hebrew but I do know Greek. Greek New Testaments are very different to modern day King James Bible. Keep in mind Greek has 5x more words than English. Modern translations could never fit that in a one language that has less than that. Also Hebrew Scrolls are read differently and we know because of the Writings of Josephus. The way modern day Churches preach its very off the rails. Its fine but its not what we see in a cultural context.
@@AlanWattResistance Oh I agree. This is why ecumenical presentations, perhaps like this one, are attempts to draw more people in by compromising on a plain reading of scripture (what is derided as "literal") to make it more palatable to the masses.
I really enjoyed the production quality of this series. Also the theories you suggest make good sense and sound quite reasonable to say the least. Keep up the good work.
The rib is the only bone in the body that can regenerate it's self
yeah you can also get stem cells there as well
Wow!!
That isn't true. Your entire skeleton can regenerate itself to a degree. Not just your ribs.
Your nails can regenerate better and faster. And, all bones can regenetate so u r wrong.
@@ems6321 Really? Where and when has someone regenerated a bone in their finger, arm, toe, or leg?
Now to find a way to preach this without being kicked out of my church
Chance Kuzma Begome Catholic
Go to a worldly compromising church, of which there are many to choose from today. You can believe whatever you like 👍
I know right. I am taking a membership class for the church I attend and I'm terrified to be asked questions. Even worse I don't want to convince my pastor that there are other ways to read these thing because the church might kick him. But at the same time it's so important because people are leaving the church and dejected over not dealing with these questions.
JPR sorry. Try Southern Baptist
@@accabb2487 A danger also is a church that is willing to compromise on truth just in order to please its congregation and keep their numbers going.
This is crazy you’re almost at a 100k subs, I’ve been here since 40k. Great video and I wish the best for you in life.
this series has been blowing my friggin mind man. The more you outline and elaborate on the cultural and literary context of Genesis, the more everything we have discovered about ancient human history in this area makes sense. I won't expunge my theories here, but it becomes so evidently clear that God established his presence in the Levant, and the cultures, peoples, and societies of the area articulated this for the years that followed.
The culture might be fine. The biology and literature are the most poisonous lies. Which is why IP ignores any comment that argues against him. Read the comments he ignores... they rebuke him quite easily.
Van Ivanov I disagree with IP on almost everything and have had numerous back and forths with him.
such high english around an iron age book. instead of talking about something that doesnt exist, why dont you figure outhow to help one another?
books in the bible are no different than kuran, or harry potter. the fact is none of you can proof the author of those so called books
plus its written in english, not the original language, which you will find with research and translation, means simething else.
go research the tower of bable, that story was stolen from another religion.
no proof whatsoever found.
this religion thing is to feel better about yourself, to look important.
never saw once yout hod replying to you or anymone, that is not all powerfull.
you guys must grow up and reed some other books, or listen to sam harris, an actual scientist, cause these comments are ludicrous, not one fact
@@conradduplooy6570 how's the dunning kruger effect going 2 years later
Fantastic video, well structured and thought out, a real pleasure to watch and thought provoking. Thanks IP
Thank you for helping me with my faith issues, I needed this, God bless your awesome soul
Dude, thank you so much for this. I’ve been trying to make sense of Genesis 1:26-27 and Genesis 2 for a while. You helped me out so much!
First, you should read the whole chapter, then you should isolate it to Gen 1:24-30. After that... what on Earth is there to be confused about? God made many kind of creatures for the land, the livestock after their kinds, the wild animals after their kinds... and then, he decided to top it off with his ultimate creature, one made like Him. Mankind is the creature he went to see in the Garden of Eden, whom He made the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil for (to use it at some point or other).
The only people who get confused about Genesis 2, is people who want to read something into it. Because Genesis 2 clearly starts saying, "This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, when the Lord God made the earth and the heavens." So the Bible gave an overview of the creation, and now it is making abundantly clear that it is talking about what happened DURING that creation which was described.
The point was made in the video that Genesis 2:4 : "These are the generations of the heavens and the earth when they were made," is not pointing back to Genesis 1, but rather, pointing to a continuation of the creation account - - not a recapitulation, but a sequel. It was demonstrated in the video that the Hebrew term (toledoth) translated " this is the account" or "these are the generations of" in Genesis 2:4 is never used in the Old Testament to recapitulate a previously given account, but to introduce a sequel to a previous account, or, less often, to introduce a recursive account within families. So there is good reason not to believe that Genesis 2:4 "clearly" points back to Genesis 1 giving more details for what is claimed to have happened in Genesis 1. To take Genesis 2 to be a recapitulation of Genesis 1 creates all sorts of problems because Genesis 2, taken as such, contradicts Genesis 1 in many details. To deal with these contradictions while maintaining that both accounts are about God's material creation of plants, animals and man involves very creative iesegetical interpretations of those texts. To read it as the ANE authors intended it to be understood and as ANE readers would have understood it, easily solves the problems an anachronistic reading creates.
@@ronaldthompson9294 - the problem with your assertion is that Jesus didn't share your assessment of Gen 1 & 2. In Matt 19, He taught that Adam and Eve were created "in the beginning". Rhats Gen 1.
And he should know, because he was there.
Nothing in Jesus' words contradicts the interpretation of the Genesis creation accounts as put forth in these series of videos. Beginning does not mean an absolute beginning point in time, but a beginning period of time. Making is not material creation but naming and assigning functions. It all works quite well.
you received no help here! Speak to someone who's read more than the first 2 chapters. Philosophy has no place in God's word.
This video was fantastic. Thank you so much and God bless you, brother.
Wow, keep up the good work. Can't wait for Gen 3 and the nachash.
Many blessings from Costa Rica
An interesting nugget I learned a while back from a book I was reading about dinosaurs. The book addressed the question of what the difference was between dinosaurs and present living reptiles. The answer was, that dinosaurs, the same as elephants, horses, gazelles, and so forth, had legs which came down from their body and held their torsos aloft from the ground, whereas all modern living reptiles, like allegators, lizards, and Comodo dragons, have leg joints which flare out to the side, so that the belly of the animal is sort of dragging along the ground when they walk. I find this fact an interesting correlation with the curse which God places upon the serpent to crawl on its belly, if one considers the serpent not necessarily a snake, but representative of all reptiles.
Beautiful and on point! These are some of the oldest stories known to mankind. They are subtle and archetypal and powerful and deep and pregnant with meaning. The Heiser and Walton references were perfect. Another resource along similar lines is “The Temple Revealed in the Garden: Priests and Kings” by Dinah Dye. Looking forward to the next one!
Love Dinah Dye. Thumbs up!
The dedication to mental gymnastics you people do is astounding. Well done.
This is so great bro. Keep it up. I'm excited for the next chapter.
What a great series! Well done. I have never been able to relate to the Old Testament, until now. BTW perfect segue at the end to chapter 3!
I've been subscribed to you since you were at around 50,000. LET'S GO 100,000!
great work on citing, explaining, and masterfully performing this video
I will give it to you. You go very deep in you're research. Very well done.
I'm open minded about this priest king interpretation and that there were possibly other people outside Eden for whom Adam was a priest-king, but can anyone comment: why then is there emphasis within the narrative on the idea that Adam could not find a suitable mate among the animals? ”The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him...So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds in the sky and all the wild animals.But for Adam no suitable helper was found." If there were female humans outside the Garden among whom a helper could not be found, then why mention animals in the middle of this narrative at all?
And what would've happened if Adam did find a suitable companion from the animals? God wouldn't have created woman?
@@rodkvic9513 lol..There's weird mentality out there. I've heard similar stuff as to why man could dwell with beasts.
In the world today "demons" are infused in numerous vids and commentary from supposed "Christians" pickled and dissolving in mysticism, fairytales and other forbidden things trying to present 'great knowledge'. These can get tons of views and mass excitement. .yet are FALSE.
Another good example is the "imminent rapture doctrine of demons".peddled to millions..Yet the only rapture is when Jesus does come again. .and its merely a facet of "The Splendor of His Coming "...and not remotely the current idolatry peddled by big name preachers across numerous pulpits. So..in the end is only DREAD for many . There's no big excitement around what Jesus really said...nooo..That cant get 'gifts of cash' or sell books etc...So these followers of the real Jesus must quietly pass..looked at as the boring idiots..while others are the special ones..with the big crowds etc.
Look at the prognostications on "Daniel"?..Major theologians and church denominations presenting great sounding "timelines"..and how the end is imminent. .Yet Bam!..collapsed in the dust . Why?.Because the weeks of years are not consecutive. .They are periods of time within time. .within the age. There's no '7 year tribulation'..Its 7 years of "time within times" that make up "The Great Tribulation"..and that spans more 'years'. So..NOBODY can decrypt/decode Daniel..only who's set in the time, at the time, for the time knows..on the exact time, what is meant.
You may see all these timeliners collapse in very dramatic fashion..all like saying "The Holy Spirit told me".."God nudged me"..Yet these heard exactly nothing.
There are reasons for this.
I could write lots. .but that's not my designation; )
Watching people is interesting though..look around and you see the world being constricted. Most declaring the end..yet it isnt.
So..within the next 7-8 years you'll see a new renewable energy system go throughout the world or many will perish from failing job availability. The ones you see..are just by 'people'. The one by God..swallows up the rest in magnitude.
Who knows..you may be around to see that :)
Perhaps someday you'll see exactly who was in your 'time'
Tc.
There were no other humans in the garden.
The Gods reveal themself in mankind. Adam and woman is the image and likeness of God. First the supreme God, then from out of Gods side, came forth the mirror image of himself, so Gods. They are two separate beings yet one kind. They two are one Spirit.
Adam and Eve are two yet one flesh.
Noticed that while reading yesterday!! It seems the Lord God operates quite differently from God of gen 1.
It is highly speculative to assume other humans in addition to adam & eve in genesis
Nicklaus Brain greetings. Is it though, where did Cain's wife appear from?
@@allanlindsay8369 Cain's wife was his sister lol
actually you are wrong it is highly speculative to assume that Adam and eve where in Genesis 1 there is literally no proof of that at all
@@inspiringlysimple4042 is there proof that God made anyone else? All we know is that God made man(adam) and female(eve). And, that said couple had sons and daughters including cain,abel, and seth. To say he made more ppl is not found in the texts
@@inspiringlysimple4042 if you think that there were other people before Adam and Eve then I have some questions.
Firstly, these people must have been sinless, perfect and immortal. As we know death entered the world through sin.
So what happened to these people after Adam sinned?
Did they also just happen to sin at the same time and thus become mortal? Because Adam's sin could not have corrupted them if they had not sinned.
So what happened to those people?
Also how do you reconcile this belief with Romans 5:12 which states that all men have sinned because of the sin of Adam?
Because like I said before, these other humans would not have been affected by Adam's sin, yet Romans tells us that ALL men ARE affected by Adam's sin.
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Thanks for uploading IP; you are a real blessing!
God bless you & your ministry!
1st Thanks for your consistently thought-provoking content!
I agree with several points here, for example The Bible says "FROM DUST you were made, and TO dust you will RETURN."
BUT I REALLY enjoy these videos, we should all meditate on such things!
I'm binge watching your channel. You're doing good work. Keep it up!
I think the one flesh makes more since referring to spiritual oneness. Especially with Paul saying a man married or not could become one with a prostitute
Another great video, IP!
This is brilliant both in content and execution.
Thought-provoking as always, IP! Btw, love the choice of music.
Thought provoking? Maybe. Biblical? Definitely not.
@@biblebus1080 Why not biblical?
Excellent job explaining a difficult passage (difficult not so much because of what it says, but because people have very ingrained views of what the text means). Obviously, not everyone will accept that the Bible is doing something different than purely describing history, but you made your case very well for those open to changing their mind. Well done.
I LOVE these video. So mind opening and clarifying!! 🔥💯🤯
I loved the setup for the next part
The dust of a man is created by holy light beams that intersect creating an atom because they have to slow down when they meet. This is similar to glass-crystal etching and holograms of intersecting light sources. What about the rib? A rib is dust that protects vital organs such as the heart and liver. This is saying something about a woman's love for her man.
@vax, tests = mark of beast 1 to late I have already tooken the mark
You reading the keys of Enoch? Pink Floyd album cover. That where we’re at right now? Red made at the top of the color spectrum “ruddy”
Wow this series is getting more and more exciting.
Keep the good work, IP
God bless you 💙💙
Certainly, the mental gymnastics have had to get more impressive, to try and say Eve, the Mother of All Life, is not the first woman. And to try and say that in a world where Adam, which the bible makes very clear is the first man, comes BEFORE the first woman, and the woman comes FROM the MAN. God also said birds and fish came about before land animals... but IP couldn't give a damn about what God thinks He did in the creation.
@@vanivanov9571 you are the only ones using mental gymnastics ADAM IS NOT THE FIRST MAN GET IT INTO YOUR HEAD WE HAVE DATA FROM THE SCRIPTURE ITSELF you are a fool and you say to God that he is a fool because you dont trust his word you just take your western Interpretation and belive it is correct you are a heretic
Inspiringly Simple, what is the data from scripture?
@@inspiringlysimple4042 evidently your only seeing what you want to see...
12. Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
13. (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
14. Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam`s transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
15. But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
16. And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
17. For if by one man`s offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
18. Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
19. For as by one man`s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
(Romans, 5)
Adam caused sin. If there were other people before Adam this wouldn't make ant sense,
I just discovered your channel through your shoutout on Tim Pool, and man, your explanations of all this stuff make the insanity of Biblical scripture make infinitely more sense. Subbed.
Great channel, great material as always, also I want to add some info that you guys may already know but still,
PART 1
THERE are over 300 different flood accounts from cultures all over the world…there must be a reason for that.
• Pre- flood environment.
Modern scientific discoveries may give us some clues as to why the pre-flood world was so different.
> Scientists have discovered air bubbles that have been trapped in fossilized amber (tree sap).
> As the tree sap rolled down the side of the tree, it captured the atmosphere in these air bubbles, which when analyzed reveals an earlier atmosphere had about [35] percent oxygen compared to today's [21] percent.
!!! Some research shows it had 50% more!
> One of the benefits of the increased oxygen level is higher IQ. People probably have had IQs of 300-400.
• The enormous trees were also what helped to create this oxygen rich atmosphere inside the closed earth dome.
God created a very lush, beautiful world with a variety of large plant life.
But these trees didn’t GROW to this height.
> When God created the world, everything, people, plants, trees, animals, and the earth itself, was created with the [appearance of age].
God created Adam and Eve in their mature, adult state.
> These large trees were created in their fully mature state on the day they were created].
While there is much we cannot say for certain about the world before Noah’s flood, we do know that the Bible tells us that it was much different than today.
People were living to more than 900 years of age!
The soil has been completely different, capable of growing many different type of plants which today are extinct because the flood has distorted everything.
Very large trees are also described in the Bible in Ezekiel 31 and in Daniel 4.
The flood that God sent to destroy the earth and it’s wickedness was so destructive that it leveled trees and completely changed the earth’s terrain and atmosphere.
This is why there are so many deserts and barren places.
[note, some of the photos may not be genuine tree stumps. The point of this post as regards to the tree stumps is not to assert anything. You have to use your own judgement and opinion]
>According to the fossil record, many plants and animals were of much greater size than those we see today.
Dragonflies had wingspans of over 3 feet, cockroaches were 18 inches long and
> cattails grew to be 60 feet[18.28 meters] tall.
While we may never know for sure why all of these things occurred, we know that when God said His creation was “very good,” it was indeed, very good.
///// The atmosphere of the earth, before the flood, had less particles for rain to condense around than what we find today. Particles called condensation nuclei are absolutely essential to the formation of rain drops.
"Some atmospheric particles . . . formed by the evaporation of water from droplets of sea spray, are natural and even beneficial atmospheric constituents. Very small particles called condensation nuclei serve as bodies for atmospheric water vapor to condense upon . . . " (Manahan, Stanley E., Environmental Chemistry 7th edition).
If the earth before the flood had smaller oceans, and no rain, then the production of particles for water drops to condense around would be very small if not non-existent. Less atmospheric turbulence would also have led to few particles put into the air. After the waters receded, the change in weather patterns, the formation of condensation nuclei, increased volcanic activity and the increased wind systems would have produced rain.
The lack of rain, however, did not mean the world before the flood was dry. Since the earth would have been warmer and laden with moisture that was not condensed, there would have been an extremely efficient condensation cycle. Condensed water droplets would have been bigger and more commonplace. The earth's surface would have cooled very rapidly at night.
This would mean the planet would have been watered by a very heavy mist or fog each day.
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•//////////////// Some PEOPLE say > HEY IF GOD was mad at the world, why would he tell Noah to build the Ark, why not just make everybody die?
- He could've said, Let's everybody except Noah's family die and it would've happened. God could do that.
WHY use the flood ?
WHY make Noah Spend 100+ years making the ark?
- well, the flood left evidence. A miracle would not!
All over the world you can find fossils. Like for example, an fossilized arm of an octopus, because they are all soft tissue. IT IS highly unlikely.
• Dinosaur eggs, thousands of dinosaur eggs and many other eggs are found fossilized. What are the chances of an eggs fossilizing?
• PLUS, the FLOOD INSTEAD of a MIRACLE GAVE them warning to repent.
THEY COULD WATCH NOAH BUILD THAT ARK EVERYDAY.
THEY COULDN'T WATCH a MIRACLE COMING.
God gave them a chance to repent.
Noah could've preach, hey guys 10 more days and you're all gonna drop over. But they kept ignoring him.
They could've watch that boat getting built day by day. It was a constant reminder that they could've gotten saved.
And they could've and should've.
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Some people say because today we can’t build an relevant ark, it cannot be built.
• Today we can’t also build the pyramids.
70 tons stones up near the top of the pyramid, 480 feet off the ground… Nobody knows how they’ve build it.
• Also how did Noah built that ark. Where did get the knowledge from? People assume that the people, 4400 years ago, in the pre-flood world were ignoramuses.
I think, We today, by their standards we are the ignoramuses, today.
• ADAM walked with God.
Adam lived 930 years. He has accumulated knowledge that could be passed down from generation to generation.
Noah’s father, Lamech could have known Adam.
ADAM was still alive when Lamech was here, according to the dates given in scripture.
So there was an enormous amount of accumulated knowledge and people at nine hundred years of age would learn an enormous amount.
• Also, in the PRE-flood environment described by the BIBLE, where they lived longer and the animals grew bigger, increased oxygen.
Specially during fetal development causes much HIGHER IQ.
And the people probably HAD IQ’s of 300-400.
• And also all sort of fossils have been found.
An example of that is a braided rope cable found in a coal mine by some workers.
And this cable has been similar to what we use today, but it’s been a stainless steel! Found embedded in the coal 200+ feet long.
• Gold bells have been found in the coal;
Gold chains six feet long found Anthracite Wyoming.
All of these things are documented.
The people that have died in the flood have been very advanced.
• The bible says the pre-flood world, the people were artificers of brass and iron, so they had iron before the flood. Noah could’ve used iron in making the ARK.
Ron Wyatt has found IRON RIVETS in the mountains of Ararat. • Noah may have BOLTED the ark together.
• And there is also a little valley called the valley of 8, and there’s a little village there, called the village of eight.
Nobody knows why the village is named that or the valley. BUT IT MIGHT be because THAT IS WHERE the eight people got off the ark.
• If the pre-flood trees WERE GROWING HUGE like everything else was growing huge in the first 16 hundred years, Noah had giant LOGS to work with and it took him a 120 years to build the boat and God gave him the instructions of how to build it.
Also the ARK was not DESIGNED TO GO ANYWHERE. IT Had only to FLOAT.
• As far as the science of ship-building, NOAH’s ark according to the SCRIPTURAL dimensions was a ratio of 6:1, WHICH is the perfect ratio to withstand storms.
Six to one ships and that is the way most of the ships are build, because they automatically face into the waves and it can’t get capsized that way.
MANY TESTS have been done on models of NOAH’s ARK. And they indicate that ARK could have stood waves of 200 feet. That is what the analysis shows.
Thank you for this, very informative!
I read every word
That was fun to read.
Thank you for taking the time to write all this.
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Your videos are gold!
In the Rotherham emphasized Bible, Genesis 1 verse 1 says,
Now the Earth had become waste and wild and darkness was on the face of the Roaring deep.
Thanks a ton for this video!
Genesis 1 is the flyover genealogy of creation. Genesis 2 is the beginning of the narrative if man in relation to God. Dr. Michael Heisser would also tell you that the best Hebraic interpretation of the days of creation are literal days. I love you brother, and you do work for the kingdom, but please consider revisiting it.
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This take actually makes a lot of sense with genetic science. If you consider Homosapiens and then the Neanderthal, Devisons, etc. They had the ability to interbred and are all technically people, but with distinctions. btw depending on your background most people will still have trace amounts of Neanderthal, Devisons, etc in their DNA.
God told Moses to throw down his rod and it became a snake.
God made the waters stand up as a heap.
God took Adams rib and made Eve.
What’s the problem🤷♂️
God is able!!! 🙌
"Oh, that never happened...." That's going to be what he says. First you get people to doubt Genesis really happened, then you get them to doubt the Flood, then you get them to doubt Moses, and then you get them to doubt Jesus. That was, and is, the atheist and satanist plan.
Van Ivanov, do you think Michael is a bad actor, covertly working for the atheists or satanist position?
Surely not🤔
Because for the first 2 examples, those are first-hand testimonies that were experienced and witnessed by Moses. However, the entire book of Genesis, which was again was written by Moses, was passed down through oral tradition from multiple generations of man to Moses. This is what the author was told about but never witnessed it unlike the previous 2 examples above. This is why the first 11 chapters of Genesis are written so differently from the rest of its chapters.
The TyRant, so Genesis is the one book of the Bible that does not fit under the following category?
2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
Jesus didn’t know what Genesis meant when He quoted...
Mat 19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
Mat 19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
Mat 19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
Either the Holy Spirit has inspired and preserved the whole word of God, or He hasn’t.
Psa 146:5 Happy is he that hath the God of Jacob for his help, whose hope is in the LORD his God:
Psa 146:6 Which made heaven, and earth, the sea, and all that therein is: which keepeth truth for ever:
Rom 3:1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
Rom 3:2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.
Rom 3:3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?
Rom 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
Isa 38:19 The living, the living, he shall praise thee, as I do this day: the father to the children shall make known thy truth.
2Jn 1:2 For the truth's sake, which dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for ever.
Moses recorded the flood, the Tower of Babel, Abraham’s life and journey.
Are these all to be in question too?
This is a very slippery slope my friend...
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
The TyRant, what scriptural evidence do you have that the stories of Genesis were passed down by oral traditions and not super attended by the Holy Spirit, as found in Jeremiah.
Jer 36:27 Then the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah, after that the king had burned the roll, and the words which Baruch wrote at the mouth of Jeremiah, saying,
Jer 36:28 Take thee again another roll, and write in it all the former words that were in the first roll, which Jehoiakim the king of Judah hath burned.
This has really helped me understand this chapter more than before...
Absolutely loving this series!
I've been waiting for this series to continue.
IP, thank you for delivering. 😌😌
The Creator and the Cosmos by Hugh Ross also sheds light on Genesis.
@@davidjanbaz7728 Thank you very much.
Right now I'm reading 'Improbable Planet'. After that I'll get to 'The Creator and the Cosmos'
@@davidjanbaz7728 Hugh Ross doesn't understand Genesis.
Jimmy Issa that's an opinion with no support. Why do think tink this?
@@davidjanbaz7728 Ross reinterprets Genesis to be referring to completely unknown scientific events ahead of its time rather than interpreting it in its ancient near eastern culture.
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Some good arguments. However, flesh can and is made from bone marrow, the ribs being one of three locations that stem cell scientists take from, so Gen 2 actually is scientifically sound.
Proof of divine inspiration because Moses was not a stem cell researcher.
was god some type of geneticist ,or alien with technology such as needles and refrigeration ,etc ,as the rib can be used to regrow tissue etc and all the minerals in soil are also in the human body such as iron ,copper etc so its safe to think that long sleep he put adam in was also a anastetic ,so does all this mean he had all of this all the correct materials ,such as we have today in hospitals ,like todays or tomorrows dna work .I love god no matter what and I believe jesus was his son ,obviously not produced like us where a mans sperm and the woman eggs are fertilised after sex ,but god was able in some way to make mary have this in her body anyway ,
Nia Sosa What does Moses have to do with the creation of man?
zach gilmore I was under the impression the only Biblical text Moses had anything to do with were the Ten Commandments... did God literally dictate the words of Genesis to Moses on Mt. Sinai?
zach gilmore It’s alright - this helps to show we can’t always trust what we read, even if it’s written in good faith.
zach gilmore Exactly, that’s why I asked him. I don’t think he has an answer.
THANK YOU IP!! HUGE FAN! :D You've helped this layman understand complex apologetics arguments plainly! Thank you for all the important work you do! God has truly given you a talent!
Nothing complex about gullible apologetics
An outstanding video documentary containing "breakthrough theology". Thank you so much. Another perspective not to be overlooked is the fact that Adam is the harbinger for both x and y chromosomes. One half of the man is taken, and when replicated, we have woman (x x).
@vax, tests = mark of beast 1 How can you say the persecution is coming? Besides the middle East and some radical countries, all religions are tolerated
So please stop saying persecution is coming!!!! No developed country would allow this to happen
@ vax, tests = mark of beast 1
Stop spreading bs.
TH-cam babylon is alive and well by David Assherick plus the unavoidable unmistakable identify of Antichrist by David Assherick
Feel like God is doing exactly what you mentioned about calling me and finally bringing order and purpose to my life where I was alone...into His kingdom...believe it or not out of "church" tradition and Sunday school teaching and into truth and reality, if that makes sense. So grateful to have found this series. Bless you my brother.
Thank you Mr. Jones, Michael, or how ever you would like.
Thank you
we have half of the periodic table in our bodies ,the same elements used in rocks and dirt and metal is within our bodily make up . So I think I would take dust from the ground literally .
Hey IP congratulations on 100K Subs! You are an inspiration to us all 🙏🏽
I love how you really expound on the passage in way that is both insightful and spiritually refreshing. Man was given special command to rule over God's creation (you see this everywhere) in way that is just, fair, and both constructive; and, there was no sin.
I appreciate this content, I really like the philosophical context that challenges YEC by providing additional context you don't see in English.
Beautiful work and excellent scholarship.
I was raised catholic and despite no longer being Christian I absolutely love how you present your channel. I believe that in order to truly use the Bible as a sacred text it is imperative to have an objective view of what the authors actually were saying. I can’t help but draw a parallel to karate. Today people look at kata and think they are useless but it’s not because of the impracticality of karate but rather a vast misunderstanding of what the kata (and in this case text) was trying to say. Thank you for these videos!
God wants relationships with us, not religions.
Congrats on 100,000 subscribers!
The strength of this channel (and all channels concerned with Biblical topics) is that it is able to absorb and integrate information and viewpoints into Biblical interpretation that would otherwise need decades in order to enter academia or maybe being dismissed by influential scholars who don't like certain points of views. Instead, you wonderfully integrate the recent knowledge and research by people like Michael Heiser or John Walton, who may not be mainstream academia, and provide a picture that is much more differentiated and gives us a first clue that we essentially had no idea before and just start to scratch on the surface.
I know that those series are very complicated and difficult to produce and consume a lot of time, but I would like to suggest a similarly critical dialogue that deals with the doctrine of the trinity and the fact that there are many Christians out there who do not agree with this doctrine. There is a whole community out there that is pretty much neglected because the mainstream view on the trinity is that of acceptance and not of critical discourse among Christians. Would appreciate, if there is interest I am willing to invest into the making of such a series of dialogues and to bring some people together who are interested in discussing those topics. This topic could be especially fruitful because giving voice to different views of the trinity could provide also an insight into a differentiated view about the topic for Muslims, who stay away from the Bible because they see it associated with doctrines like the trinity - a doctrine that is disputed also among Christians. So it is a topic with a potential to reach people by presenting them something that is really new to them.
Be it as it may: God bless you, I enjoy every single video and learn a lot from them! Thank you.
Thank you for putting Walton's work to video, bless you
I can already tell from the title that this is gonna rustle some jimmies...
"I hope so" - in my most Tyrion Lannister voice.
Jimmies have definately been rustled.
Heresy kinda does that 😉😂 (Death before sin - mamma mia!)
@@InspiringPhilosophy Really? Then why are you a coward who never argues with the people who have been rustled? Trolls are brave... they go and argue with people and appreciate the attention. But you hide away, only talking to those who speak well of you.
InspiringPhilosophy I’m sure you’re aware that Moron Ra made a response video? He pulled Dan Barker and Joshua Bowen into it so you obviously are under the man’s skin. Will you bother respond or just let it go?
Very good commentary!!!!!
There is a danger is trying to make a word in every sense mean the same even when the context is different.
Wow this is mind blowing and wonderful to listen to, thanks for working and giving us info a whole lot more.😊❤
Few more subscribers and you will reach 100 000. I'm so glad for you! You deserve more for your effort! You don't even know how many lives you've changed and in what way.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for being an inspiration and a great apologist!
These are the best videos on Genesis that I've seen anywhere. I think in the NT in the Greek the word Kosmos refers to a system of things and not the physical Earth itself so the idea here would also be one of function and not Material.
"... this would imply that there were other humans there before Adam and Eve" (3:33-36). How are we to understand what is said in Acts 17:26 (ESV)--From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands.?
This clears up so much for me! Thank you for the amazing info, as usual :)
19:57 There is a big difference between "the part of a person that pursues life" and "a person's purpose for living" isn't there?
I have not been able to listen to this in its entirety and not sure yet if it's part of a series. Author brings up good points worth consideration and further study. I tend to keep an open mind regarding the possibility our modern interpretations of scripture possibly being way off in certain areas, but I do also always advise caution. I think it is actually usually better to be wrong by taking the Bible literally in certain cases (so many times it is to be taken literally) than to stray away into belief systems that may quite frankly also be wrong and worst--gradually steering us off course from the truth of scripture and into unGodly and erroneous occultism (which is so often the case). So what I am saying is that I agree the Bible is often taken literally in areas in which it is not originally meant to be, but be cautious. One thing he does say that I do not fully agree with. Author says that the scripture's statement about Adam and Eve "becoming one flesh" was not meant in a literal sense. I believe the wording here in Genesis is in fact primarily literal, but also has metaphorical application. So basically the meaning here is twofold. Author provides the explanation that Adam and Eve were not "sewn together" to make one flesh. Well, that is NOT true. Adam and Eve were in fact joined together sexually and became one flesh by that union producing offspring made up of their combined flesh. So most certainly this is a literal "becoming one". "They" became "one". I believe it is as obvious as an elephant standing in front of us what this verse means. And so closely were they joined together that the joining (becoming one) can never be separated from the created being--the one flesh--produced by their joining together, even in todays modern scientific world. Technology can find and isolate such things as DNA, marrow, etc., but can never split the being in half, once created. The being is ONE. The two are now ONE. The twofold, metaphorical application is that Adam and Eve were also of one agreement, accord and purpose. Heart and mind so to speak and also living under the same life and spiritual conditions. The Bible also speaks of Jesus and God being one and that we also should be one with the church (other believers). No we are not sewn together with them, but the metaphor implies it is as if we were. I believe the primary implication in Genesis is describing Adam and Eve becoming one flesh is in fact physical and material, but that also spills over to other areas of their being--spiritually, mentally, emotionally, etc.
This is deep I wish to get transcript of the video to study further. Kudos to this study
I have to listen to this a few times to get my head wrapped around it.
Your choices at the beginning, I don't think it is one or the other. It is BOTH literal and metaphysical.
Yes it is possible for Biblical passages to have multiple meanings that are all correct. And there are many examples of this.
@@deegobooster Yes so long as they also follow and remain consistent with God's nature, as revealed in the text. After all that's one of major theological points for us having the scriptures in the first place. If not the main one where everything hinges on.
Yeah, there's a lot of fancy wordplay here, so as to add the religion of evolution to the texts. So, if the bible says Adam was the first man, several times, we have to ignore that. If it says Eve is the mother of all life and came AFTER Adam, we have to ignore that too. Eventually, we ignore everything the bible says, substituting whatever the false-teacher wants us to believe.
@@vanivanov9571 The bible does not state that Adam was the first man, it only states multiple times that Adam came first before Eve. The only instance where it ever references that Adam is the first man is in Corinthians 15, and even then the name Adam is used in comparison to Christ.
Eve is not stated to be the mother of all life, only that she would BECOME (hayah) the mother of all the living (chay). That being all that is new, fresh, or currently alive. Not before. This could be foreshadowing that we are children of Adam and Eve's sin and temptation. Or in a pre-fall intent and following IP's hermeneutics, if Adam and Eve were designated to lead humans under God, and were considered both royalty and spiritual leaders, this would imply that Eve would become humanity's spiritual mother.
@@vanivanov9571 the scripture never say's Adam was the first man get educated IP debunked that already and we have actually data that Genesis 1 is not Talking About Adam and eve as we know through the hebrew you are a heretic
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The woman is his necessary counterpart indeed. Completing the image of Christ and his Church. God and his people. Although I don't believe the relationship they had with each other is necessarily equal.
Some very inciteful and interesting stuff here.
Interesting stuff 😊👍
it's a misunderstanding of ancient hebrew texts, where they will often expand on a single verse. Genesis Chapter 2 expands on the human creation event, where the creator has already created all the animals. He proceeds to make more before Adam, the first human. after which he creates Eve, from Adams rib.
Then why is there a tolodoth and also why all the other times it is used it isn't expanding but continuing forward?
I've always had a problem with Genesis 4:14. Who was Cain afraid of? This to me we proof that there were humans already on Earth. Thank you for this explanation.
He was afraid of his siblings, and his nieces and nephews, and his grandchildren. To make the assumption that there are only 4 humans walking around on the earth would be a grave mistake. There's every reason to believe that there already were hundreds of humans, all of them the children/grandchildren/greatgrandchildren of Eve.
If Cain was afraid of humans taking Vengeance on him, then he was afraid of their sin. But Romans 5 clearly states that all sin came through Adam alone. How did these other creatures have sin if they weren't the descendants of Adam? The other problem that is video passes by is that Adam called Eve "the mother of all living". That means that she was the only other human when they were married.
@@timffoster I agree. They had siblings that the Bible does not focus on. God *did* tell them to be "fruitful AND multiply"
Both of you put it perfectly.
I forgot to add...
[+]The days of Adam after he fathered Seth were 800 years; *and he had other sons and daughters*. (Gen 5:4)
Josephus says that A&E had 33 sons and 23 daughters. Dunno where he gets that number, but they're not hard to achieve, actually.
And dipping into biology for a sec... males create sperm indefinitely (more or less). And females have how many eggs? For what purpose?
"Be fruitful and multiply", eh?
I see two creations..in genisis...in gen1:26 27..let US make man in our image so he made THEM man and woman .....it is elohim in original jewish texts ...which is plural for GODS ..if its singular it is ellho or eloha...for GOD...then they make adam from dirt then adam sleeps ( death ) ....and a rib is taken out of adam where eve comes from...u cant get more clearer then that....
Wow! Thank you.
Apparently I listened to this a year ago.
Today I am thinking about how everything is from stardust, and will become stardust again.
Will I ever be one with the light?
So, who created the sin? If "some" people were created before Adam and Eve, then they created the sin. It's your logic in nutshell.
Your question is based on a faulty premise.
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No. You don't understans what I mean. If people (or other antrophoids?) exist before Adam and Eve, then who created the sin? If it's only symbolic, then why we shouldn't think same about Lord Jesus. If Adam didn't be historical first human, then people should't believe that Lord Jesus was (and is) the first historical human from heaven. In this logic Lord Jesus was (and is) only symbolic person.
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If Adam and Even didn't be the first people then why apostle Paul said that Adam was liter who sinned first [1 Cor 15:21-22]? If we think that FIRST humans - Adam and Eve were only symbolic persons, then why Lord Jesus literally died for our sins? If Adam didn't be first then Christianity fast collapse...
@UCm3oVZsVGBFZ80R9etH8Gng because they functioned as humanity's representatives being the preist/kingship as IP explained in the video
Some interesting theories, but it raises some new questions in my mind. First, if only eating from the tree of life made Adam and Eve immortal, then what would have happened if they had eaten from it and then from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil? Would they still have been immortal from the fruit of the tree of life? Second, in Genesis 3, Eve is described as the "mother of all the living." If this does not mean the first woman of creation, then what does it mean?
The tree of life is not presented in the Ancient Near Eastern Worldview as one-of-a-timer-eat-and-forget thing. It was supposed to heal and preserve life when needed, in a recurrent and constant way. You needed constant access. Also, it's not a fruit thing only, but leaves too. So, IF Adam and Eve were in that garden for long enough, they would have used the tree of life many times, whenever they wanted or needed. But once prohibited, without it's effects, their bodies would decay to final death. They only had conditional immortality.
You are correct about the second question. Eve WAS the first created woman. There are no parallel , pre-adamic human races in Genesis. The other of the video is wrong in his interpretation because it is not derived from text, but he forces exterior ideas onto the text.
the writing style in Genesis is a Chiasm and is also used in Revelation. Genesis 1 is material and literal. the chiasm is used in the second part of a sentence or speech to mirror the first. it usually gives a deeper understanding or even adds details.
I think Job saying he is made like clay also contains the picture of having been formed by an intentional maker, the way a potter makes a pot, and so forth, an oft repeated image.
wait why do you think humans came before plants in gen 2. the plants in the garden east of Eden came after man was made.
am I missing something here or is ip projecting his evolutionary beliefs into the text?
Watch the full video as I explain Genesis 2 is qualified.
@@InspiringPhilosophy ok I will get back to you after. its just that you used that as a qualifier...
Quick question to make sure I understood correctly.
The priest/king was separated after the fall?
Wasn't Melchizedek a priest/king?
2 options, either Melchy's role was informal, not having being ordained by God in the same manner as David's kingship or Arron's priesthood, or the split took place after Abram, not Adam.
He was a christophony. Basically christ before his birth by Mary.
If Adam&Eve multiplied before the fall, there would have been many priest-king offspring. Eventually, everyone's lifespan was shortened, especially those born after the fall. Perhaps Melchizedek was the last of the earlier, unfallen generations... Christ would be like Adam before the Fall, as would any of Adam's offspring.. Christ returns with the host of heaven, a cloud of witnesses... Life aligned with God's life, exists at a higher vibration or energy level. Those that reject harmonizing with it, would become completely separate and apart, at some point. Kind of de-magnetized...? At the moment those folks realize that, there may be some wailing/gnashing of teeth, but nothing afterwards, because they only sought to take from Life, not affirm it. So they will be as far as east is from west. And the memory of them will be no more...
Hey Michael, curious if you've come across Dr. Joshua Swamidass, a fellow believer (scientist & physician) who is doing a lot of work on Adam & Eve, some similarities of your take here but with an universal ancestry focus on it. He has a new book out on the science of it. Thoughts?
I love your videos man and after rereading genesis it makes the most sense that there were two creation accounts. but i have one quick question. How do you reconcile this with other passages that reference Adam as the first man when genesis 2 suggest he may not have been? Such as the verse saying the first man Adam became a living being but the second man Christ became a life giving spirit? This is the only thing keeping me on the fence. Otherwise just analysis of Genesis makes your argument more probable
Technically when a man and woman has a child, the child is a combination of both parants flesh....I mean technically.
In agreement with this whole message I pray to be resurrected from dust and wish you all the same, loosening myself of every literally, demonic way of interpretating to become one flesh, in the name and blood of Jesus Christ: amen.
Well said!!!✝️
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Nothing short of AMAZING !
VERY INTERESTING !!!
also why is a woman made from a rib or a man made from dust any more confusing than God creating the world with his word ?
Because it is totally incompatible with his real religion, evolution. He wants to believe, "little balls of jelly," as Darwin called them, can create a man... God can't, for no reason at all.
He made his dishonesty obvious, when he said you can't take the bible literally at all, "because Christians aren't lining up to be sewn to their wives, to become one-flesh!"
@@vanivanov9571 exactly.
@@vanivanov9571 He really said "because Christians aren't lining up to be sewn to their wives, to become one-flesh?"
@Jax YT anyone that understands DNA knows evolution can be proved false.
if you ignore information science then you can keep evolution. but I prefer truth
@@AveChristusRex It's right there in the video
Great Video, I think Genesis 1-3 is one of the beautiful books out there.
If it's beautiful, why not take it seriously, instead of adding your own fanfiction to it? Once we've contradicted Eve being the mother of all life, and Adam the first man, and that there was no death, and in fact EVERY statement of Genesis has to be undone in some way, you reveal you hate the story and what it stands for, and want to change it to reflect something in yourself.
@@vanivanov9571: Don't be an asshole.
What fanfic is he adding to it? Lmao@@vanivanov9571
@InspiringPhilosophy what about the same verse of Gen 2:4 where it states "...when they were created..." wouldn't that signify the in process of the creation or post process?
Unrelated: can someone explain the link between idealism and indeterminism, realism and determinism referred to in the free will series for me please?