Wiliane Nascimento no yngwie sound cleaner and better then ever now,and yngwie started this,he already has much more respect and has more memorable songs,stump is a direct copy of yngwie and that’s ok but he’s not original at all that’s the thing so to say that he’s overcome yngwie is ubserd and very stupid
Absolutely....... but it's not just about the money, it's about passion! To get to Stump's level you need a lot of dedication and passion for what you're doing. Plus, I have met Joe many times and he's really a cool dude! YJM will always be the king, but Joe Stump is awesome! People have to realize that the world is big enough for both YJM and Stump! CHEERS!
After listening to this song again I will say it's probably one of the most perfectly melodic neo-classical instrumentals ever, the dynamics are all over never losing melodic integrity, the scales & arpeggios form a musical brilliance very few can do, this song in my opinion is really above Yngwie & most professional shredders.
Indeed so, and don't forget other awesome guitarists, like Paul Gilbert, Chris Impellitteri, Jason Becker, Vinnie Moore, Michael Romeo, Chris Broderick, and Jeff Loomis....MANY of these guys grew up listening to Yngwie and loving what he does! Many of them freely talk about his influence on them, as players and fans.
Sternth Gernth no it doesn’t work like that,he has the same sound almost the same playing,jewelry,and same collared and shaped guitar.hes an yngwie fanboy and that’s ok it’s just when somone says what you said then these things have to pointed out,also even if he is an yngwie copy which he pretty much kinda is then that doesn’t make all the other shredders EVH copying players.jason Becker has his own playing style and sound,puma Gilbert did as well,same with Marty Friedman,Steve via and satriani also played different and sounded differently,in fact I can’t think of any other main guitar that sounds like him,when people wanted to be like him,that Meant they wanted to play shred guitar and cool guitar riffs but thy all never sounded the same,joe stump has always sounded like yngwie and he most likely always will
All I have to say about the Joe Stump imitating Yngwie Malmsteen arguement is this...I have been an Yngwie fan since he first sprung on the scene in the early 80's and I will always love his music and as long as Joe Stump is making money with his album releases and as long as Yngwie is making his money who really gives a crap. They are both awesome guitarists and I enjoy all of their music..it makes no difference to me..money is green and my money goes towards what I like. Peace in Music!
"He's coping the root of the Genre... That's how trends and Genres get started!". Jesus Christ. Is there anyone left on youtube who doesn't breathe through their mouth?
This is a very awesome instrumental, one of the best from I've seen. Joe is very dedicated & inspirational guitar player. Even Yngwie would like this song & the riffs.
@OfAeon Sure. 1st of all, he didn't adopt anything from Mozart or Beethoven. He focused mainly on baroque music. But that aside, you don't get Yngwie's sound by simply playing violin music on guitar. His "bread and butter" is basically playing phrygian and harmonic minor licks and linking them together with diminished chords. Something he adopted from Bach/Paganini. He also chooses notes and chords that he believes they would have, while still sounding like rock and not classical music.
Ppl can surpass their idols, history & the present is full of that example. Joe Stump is clearly one of the top shredders in the world any real guitar player with ears, ability & knows how to shred knows it, clearly better than Michael Angelo & Yngwie.
Holy shit you never cease to Amaze me Joe. You are a true inspiration for guitarists. Once again an epic Jaw Dropping Sweep harmony from 3:53 - 4:12 by the master your picking and fretting hand is virtuosic . Hope you come to Canada some day soon!
Nah, not at all. There are several top Neo-classical players around, and I love 'em all in different ways, but Yngwie has a special place in my heart for what he does. :) Glad we cleared that up. :)
Absolutely... for me Yngwie will always be the neo-classical king. He is the father of shred guitar. In my opinion he's the one that took the neo-classical genre to new heights. I also have great respect for Joe Stump and Katsu Ohta, they're both very good, but Yngwie will always be the king!
epic103 he’s not the father of shred guitar,he’s the father of neoclassical guitar,Eddie Van Halen is the father of shred guitar and randy Rhodes is the father of heavy metal guitar.
@WildBillJP If you play guitar and come to a certain technical level,you can approximate how hard something is to play.Yngwie has many demanding chops, I can't play them all for sure,but can imagine playing them much sooner than most of Joe's stuff, especially last 2 albums. Psycho shred suite pt. 1 & 2 or Red Priest, Killer Instinct, Witching hour etc. are pure sick. Arpeggios there are much much more diverse and demanding than Yngwies.Or intro toRapid FireRondo!Try and play that!
you are absolutely right!stump is fantastic.i own 3 albums.but yngwie is the master.blackmore and yngwie are chalk and cheese.both great but yngwie is the ultimate player.beyond any neo classic player.he wrote the book and is pushing it further
@skingaz We'll agree on Attack and UTF, these are great efforts unlike Perpetual flame and especially Relentless. And yes, not twice as fast, that was a metaphor, but certainly much more difficult passages. For instance advanced arpeggios Yngwie never plays....
I didn't think I'd have to mention it, but Yngwie is not known for being a blues player... however I would bet any amount of money that they BOTH play pentatonics, besides the obvious harmonic minor/phrygian, which YNGWIE is known for. As for the rest of your comment, you don't seem to be making much sense. He taps a note on top of his arpeggios and slightly changes some of Yngwies most famous sequences? Wow, that's drastically different and soooooo innovative. My mistake Maestro
He is a great guy! Had a talk with him at a gig in my town and got one of his guitar picks, and one for my friend! We are all copying other guys, the examples that stick out just get all the hate
@skingaz No. Just that this specific "neo-classical style" is not a style at all. It's specific to one person, the person who originated it, Yngwie. He is the phrygian and harmonic minor master. Yngwie's music is both unbelievably original and extremely inspired. Both Stump and Impelitteri basically just imitate what he has done, which is why they are both watered down versions of him. Romeo, however, may be INFLUENCED by Yngwie, but def drew from other inspirations and music as well
Malmsteen may have popularized Neo-Classical shred, but Joe has perfected the essence of what IS neo-classical. His licks resemble malmsteen, but anyone with a minimal amount of shred background can agree that Joe's licks far out-perform Malmsteen in both creativity and cleanliness. He is what we shredders like to dub "technical". Malmsteen is outside the technical realm, literally floating "outside" the time signature. Malmsteen has his own sound, Stump has his own. Shred on all shredders.
"Malmsteen may have popularized Neo-Classical shred, but Joe has perfected the essence of what IS neo-classical".. Who are you fucking Guitar Confucius? shut up
Sternth Gernth dude shut the fuck up you don’t know what your talking about,joe isn’t even popular outside of these small TH-cam videos,I’m not hating on him but he’s not what you make him out to be
@@lamborgatti-4783 Stump has a much cleaner tone when playing fast if I heard stump I wouldn't think it was Malmsteen they sound different If Malmsteen and Stump battled it would be never end. They're both good Stump is the only "Malmsteen Clone" that I respect" As funny as Yngwie attitude is Stump still at least has a better attitude and is a better teacher. Yngwie makes way better band songs Stump makes way better solo songs list goes on they're both good and both different(;
Thanks Joe for re-writing the first 2 Yngwie albums. You are the best Yngwie clone. Skills are just as sharp. Some of your songs have and original flavor to them and i like to hear them. And some like this one You had better pay 97% of all monies earned to Yngwie in royalties. I tell you what though, if you're a nice guy you are way ahead of YJM in that department. Break out of the YJM clone thing bro...expand a little bit. I do like Joe Stump though, so don't ge tme wrong...
@ESPSHREDDER1293 That's cool ESPSHREDDER1293. I'm sure that shows what an Yngwie fan he is. Equally though I'm sure that Yngwie could play this (especially consider Joe's "borrowing" of Yngwie licks) I think we just need to accept that both are awesome players who are miles ahead of the rest.
yeahh.. joe is doc.. malmsteen, jason becker marty friedman, is my inspirational but joe stump inspire me to explore fingerins techniques,positioning,, riffs,, jason the arpeggios master,,marty the strange lick.. i want get phd ,, like JOE STUMP....
I'm cool with the "copying" (he's coping the root of the Genre, not necessarily Yngwie? Because I love the neo-classical stuff! I love Yngwie! And I love Joe! That's how trends and Genre's get started!! You have to appreciate Joe's talent!
@jfutach You can imagine playing Yngwie's stuff much sooner than playing Joe's stuff??? LMFAO. Wow. You must be really good at imagining playing the guitar.
Love this song. Lots of cool elements to it. I'm currently learning this song and I'm up to the main solo at 2:45. By the way, what line 6 amp is Joe using here? Just wondering. Sounds awesome. JOE RULEZ!!!
Has any one seen his fret board and how its sanded down. Another copy of Malmsteen. If your not careful playing on that type of neck you can carve your hands up. But to play like Malmsteen you have to have chops. And Joe has chops.
@jfutach I can see why you might think that, but just because he wasn't the first person to play a diminished chord means nothing. It is well known that Yngwie's "bread and butter" is linking the harmonic minor and phrygian scale with diminished chords. Something neither of Uli or Blackmore did. To think Stump is more technically demanding is as laughable as saying he comes anywhere close to Yngwie's songwriting ability, note selection, and ORIGINALITY.
Yes, Yngwie uses "passages" from classical composers BUT Yngwie never uses passes of OTHER GUITARISTS in his own songs like Stump does. It also goes a lot deeper than the music itself. HERE: 33.3% of Stumps guitars are YNGWIE SIGNATURE strats. He uses Yngwie YJM pickups and HS-3's. He has Yngwie Singature "Black Star" Rhino amp head, has an old Marshall that belonged to Yngwie. Uses Yngwie signature DOD Pedal..even uses Yngwie Signature Dimarzio Strap. That seems like a little too much. Sorry.
@jfutach Well I agree, relentless was disappointing, I think mainly not because of the guitar playing, but because of his collaboration with Tim "Ripper" Owens, whose voice I can't stand. As for arpeggios, have you not heard "Arpeggios from Hell"? I'd LOVE to hear Stump play that! I'm as sure that Joe could, as I am that Yngwie could play "....Dragon"....oh and could either play Screaming Symphony by Impellitteri? lol Just a thought, the opening to "...dragon" is basically, "ship of fools"
He took neoclassical music on a whole new level that's well beyond Yngwie's reach (something like what Yngwie did to Blackmore in the 80s). It's useless arguing about this, can't we just enjoy the music. Even if you think he's a clone you should then be able to enjoy one more, a bit different Yngwie then :))
@jfutach No offense, but your preference of Joe Stump over Yngwie would be like preferring an Elvis impersonator over Elvis himself. If someone sang, danced, and DRESSED exactly like Michael Jackson, would you say that he is just the same style of musician? I highly doubt it for your sake.
neo.classical.fast arpeggios.alternate picking and dramatic song writing.stump owes EVERYTHING his entire repertoire to malmsteen+he isn't as fast and as clean(i love joe stump!!!!).stump is 15 notes per sec and malmsteen is 17.8 ( guitarist magazine... if ur into that sort of thing ) who cares...but he is original and a wonder....period.i saw yngwie in early 90's and again 2008...my god he's like a force of nature...awesome.
Actually if you want to be mad at somebody ,how bout Wolf Marshall . He became a Millionaire writing YJMs music on paper . I'll say it again YJM was a child prodigy ,came up with this style when he was 11 ,Stradivarius was a big influence .
@skingaz It's a matter of taste. I've listend to everything Yngwie recorded but I've listened to Stump even more and he's much more interesting. The influence is undeniable but for me it's like comparing Ford T with a modern Ferrari. For might have invented it but I'm not gonna drive in it these days. Yngwie today seems too focused on shredding it as fast as possible and while doing that he forgets the music and the fact that people like Stump can shred twice as fast without blinking.
You can hear Blackmore all over Yngwie's tunes, but that's not the point. Yes, Stump was influenced by Yngwie and a lot more other guys (much more by Blackmore BTW). It's in fact an honor that this guy who surpassed his idols still idolises them and pays them respect in his music. As a fan of Yngwie who knows his tunes I can say Stump is original and has his own easily recognizable style.
@WildBillJP Horribly wrong how exactly? Are you going to continue the trend (which seems so popular these days) of bashing Yngwie? Or are you saying that I've got it wrong when I say that a lot of Joe's pieces contain large chunks of Yngwie's stuff? Because THAT is demonstrable the case.
@WildBillJP If you did your homework you'd see Blackmore and Uli Jon Roth did neoclassical way before Yngwie,and Yngwie was a big Ritchie fan,down to the clothesm jewlery and,guess what,strat.You can hear diminished,and other sweeps on lot of Uli's work.Yngwie raised it up a notch, and Stump added heavier fat sound, riffs and more extreme technical demand.STill,that's of little importance:I listen to him because I like his music! and I prefer it over Yngwie's(I do like Yngwie too).
WOW! The beginning is WAYYYYY to similar to Yngwie's "Ship of Fools." same chord progression. I don't know how Stump gets away with half of his "compositions" if most of them are yngwie's songs lol. Go listen to Ship of Fools, you will hear the same intro.
you cant compare joe stump to a yngwie clone, that's absurd. they both picked up the guitar around the same time, and they both were influenced by the same people, in fact stump more so than yngwie. Yes Stump learned alot of Yngwie's solos in the 80s but unlike yngwie he actually moves forward with his music and makes original songs instead of rereleasing 50 different versions of the same songs on 20 different cds. Joe Stump is far more inspirational in my book..sorry for such a late response.
Joe Stump and Chris Impellitteri don't approach anything differently. They approach everything as how they think Yngwie would. I'd think the way Joe dresses might have tipped you off buddy. Now, please tell me EXACTLY which scales and techniques you are referring to, and how their ideas and execution are so radically different... and be specific :)
@skingaz It's a matter of taste. I love Yngwie too and listen to him often (I've listend to all of his albums loads of times). I find him a bit repetitive and boring when it comes to soloing, although he does have awesome chops and he obviously influenced all shredders including Stump.
@skingaz he actually can play arpeggios grom hell when i have my lesson with him one time he played a little of arpeggios of hell then played all of blitzkrieg first try it was fuckin nasty
@jfutach You know, I'm kinda sick of people kicking Yngwie. For my money, Joe Stumpe, Yngwie Malmsteen, Chris Impelltteri, and Michael Romeo are ALL awesome Neo-classical players and each approaches it slightly differently. Similar tonality, scales, techniques but different minds, ideas and execution. One of these days we'll have to have them ALL on stage together. could call it "Neo-classicon"
OK, from what I've heart of Joe, he's a rock and metal player who almost never plays blues (something Yngwie does) so no pentatonics, also a LOT more harmonics used than Yngwie. He's pretty close though, granted. Chris uses drills of 3 notes, and 6s (something Yngwie never does) and plays arpeggios swept with taps on the top (again something Yngwie never does) His later stuff is also more metal than neo-classical. Also, Chris "chicken picks" 6 note pedals, which Yngwie does not.
@jfutach Well that's the problem when you listen to a guy's entire collection of opera, you WILL hear repetitions. I'm sure that, if we listen to enough Joe Stump, or Michael Romeo, or Steve Vai or Joe Satriani (just to widen the players out) the same would eventually be true. I've been reading Joe Stump's website, and he actually cites Yngwie (as does Michael Romeo) as a major influence, so perhaps people should give him more respect and credit.
Well, if you listen to him doing interviews or commenting his tunes you'll hear he deliberately puts short passages of his heroes' music. He did it with Paganini and Bach and Blackmore and so did Yngwie - I see no reason why he should be blamed for this. And really, if you look at this without Yngwie glasses on you'll see Yngwie can't touch this from either compositional, technical, melodic or just pure power point of view . Just for the record - I'm also a fan of Yngwie.
@jfutach Well, I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree here. You are clearly a stump fan, while I am an Yngwie fan who has an appreciation for other Neo-classical players, like Stump, Impellitteri etc. I do think that you're being unfair to Yngwie though, probably because of his last album (relentless) which wasn't as good as the two previous. You really CANNOT call "Attack" or "UTF" unmusical though. "twice as fast"? I don't think so. Plus stumps licks ARE Yngwie's licks, remember that.
Joe Stump is an Yngwie clone, a very good one though. Even though he made great original music you cannot compare him to the God Malmsteen who made everything that Joe plays possible. No Stump without Yngwie
He is a hidden gem. 💎 I think he is one of the best guitarist in the world.
It's an honor to take lessons from this dude.
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The admirer surpass the admired! Stump is going better than Malmsteen.
Wiliane Nascimento no yngwie sound cleaner and better then ever now,and yngwie started this,he already has much more respect and has more memorable songs,stump is a direct copy of yngwie and that’s ok but he’s not original at all that’s the thing so to say that he’s overcome yngwie is ubserd and very stupid
He makes it look so easy.
Absolutely....... but it's not just about the money, it's about passion! To get to Stump's level you need a lot of dedication and passion for what you're doing. Plus, I have met Joe many times and he's really a cool dude!
YJM will always be the king, but Joe Stump is awesome!
People have to realize that the world is big enough for both YJM and Stump!
CHEERS!
After listening to this song again I will say it's probably one of the most perfectly melodic neo-classical instrumentals ever, the dynamics are all over never losing melodic integrity, the scales & arpeggios form a musical brilliance very few can do, this song in my opinion is really above Yngwie & most professional shredders.
Indeed so, and don't forget other awesome guitarists, like Paul Gilbert, Chris Impellitteri, Jason Becker, Vinnie Moore, Michael Romeo, Chris Broderick, and Jeff Loomis....MANY of these guys grew up listening to Yngwie and loving what he does! Many of them freely talk about his influence on them, as players and fans.
Awesome! Perfect & Awesome! Gotta go practice now, this just makes me happy and makes me wanna go practice! ....yeah, Awesome!
At what point in this song did you hear Joe play any exact Malmsteen licks? If Joe is a Malmsteen clone, then all shredders are EVH clones.
Sternth Gernth no it doesn’t work like that,he has the same sound almost the same playing,jewelry,and same collared and shaped guitar.hes an yngwie fanboy and that’s ok it’s just when somone says what you said then these things have to pointed out,also even if he is an yngwie copy which he pretty much kinda is then that doesn’t make all the other shredders EVH copying players.jason Becker has his own playing style and sound,puma Gilbert did as well,same with Marty Friedman,Steve via and satriani also played different and sounded differently,in fact I can’t think of any other main guitar that sounds like him,when people wanted to be like him,that Meant they wanted to play shred guitar and cool guitar riffs but thy all never sounded the same,joe stump has always sounded like yngwie and he most likely always will
@@lamborgatti-4783 shhhhh
Awesome playing he even try to sound like a sweden when he talks just kiddin awesome stay rock on forever maestro
OMG!!! EPIC SONG, EPIC PLAYER!!!
All I have to say about the Joe Stump imitating Yngwie Malmsteen arguement is this...I have been an Yngwie fan since he first sprung on the scene in the early 80's and I will always love his music and as long as Joe Stump is making money with his album releases and as long as Yngwie is making his money who really gives a crap. They are both awesome guitarists and I enjoy all of their music..it makes no difference to me..money is green and my money goes towards what I like. Peace in Music!
This riff is awesome !
"He's coping the root of the Genre... That's how trends and Genres get started!". Jesus Christ. Is there anyone left on youtube who doesn't breathe through their mouth?
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This is a very awesome instrumental, one of the best from I've seen. Joe is very dedicated & inspirational guitar player. Even Yngwie would like this song & the riffs.
i agree the first time i heard yngwie was on am radio as a kid , im close to yngwie's age so i am very familiar with him since steeler days
This is the first track off of his Virtuostic Vendeta album. Shredding work, i just wish it was recorded a bit louder.
Tremendo!!!
Rock on Joe! wish i could be as good"..
@OfAeon Sure. 1st of all, he didn't adopt anything from Mozart or Beethoven. He focused mainly on baroque music. But that aside, you don't get Yngwie's sound by simply playing violin music on guitar. His "bread and butter" is basically playing phrygian and harmonic minor licks and linking them together with diminished chords. Something he adopted from Bach/Paganini. He also chooses notes and chords that he believes they would have, while still sounding like rock and not classical music.
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Ppl can surpass their idols, history & the present is full of that example. Joe Stump is clearly one of the top shredders in the world any real guitar player with ears, ability & knows how to shred knows it, clearly better than Michael Angelo & Yngwie.
Holy shit you never cease to Amaze me Joe. You are a true inspiration for guitarists. Once again an epic Jaw Dropping Sweep harmony from 3:53 - 4:12 by the master
your picking and fretting hand is virtuosic . Hope you come to Canada some day soon!
You sir are a great player.
the master!
incredible as always
Is that his berklee classroom? if it is, aewesome, he is a great teacher
I wasn’t ready.......
Nah, not at all. There are several top Neo-classical players around, and I love 'em all in different ways, but Yngwie has a special place in my heart for what he does. :) Glad we cleared that up. :)
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Now this is good !
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Absolutely... for me Yngwie will always be the neo-classical king. He is the father of shred guitar. In my opinion he's the one that took the neo-classical genre to new heights.
I also have great respect for Joe Stump and Katsu Ohta, they're both very good, but Yngwie will always be the king!
epic103 he’s not the father of shred guitar,he’s the father of neoclassical guitar,Eddie Van Halen is the father of shred guitar and randy Rhodes is the father of heavy metal guitar.
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Randy Rhoads is the one that inspired and established the neoclassical guitar shred style of the eighties.
@WildBillJP
If you play guitar and come to a certain technical level,you can approximate how hard something is to play.Yngwie has many demanding chops, I can't play them all for sure,but can imagine playing them much sooner than most of Joe's stuff, especially last 2 albums. Psycho shred suite pt. 1 & 2 or Red Priest, Killer Instinct, Witching hour etc. are pure sick. Arpeggios there are much much more diverse and demanding than Yngwies.Or intro toRapid FireRondo!Try and play that!
This theme is Technically well done. :)!
yngwie doesn't have the same vibes that Joe Stump plays. I can't get that thrilling kickass feeling in yngwie's music.
you are absolutely right!stump is fantastic.i own 3 albums.but yngwie is the master.blackmore and yngwie are chalk and cheese.both great but yngwie is the ultimate player.beyond any neo classic player.he wrote the book and is pushing it further
@skingaz
We'll agree on Attack and UTF, these are great efforts unlike Perpetual flame and especially Relentless. And yes, not twice as fast, that was a metaphor, but certainly much more difficult passages. For instance advanced arpeggios Yngwie never plays....
I'm inspired once again! :)
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I didn't think I'd have to mention it, but Yngwie is not known for being a blues player... however I would bet any amount of money that they BOTH play pentatonics, besides the obvious harmonic minor/phrygian, which YNGWIE is known for. As for the rest of your comment, you don't seem to be making much sense. He taps a note on top of his arpeggios and slightly changes some of Yngwies most famous sequences? Wow, that's drastically different and soooooo innovative. My mistake Maestro
He is a great guy! Had a talk with him at a gig in my town and got one of his guitar picks, and one for my friend! We are all copying other guys, the examples that stick out just get all the hate
@skingaz No. Just that this specific "neo-classical style" is not a style at all. It's specific to one person, the person who originated it, Yngwie. He is the phrygian and harmonic minor master. Yngwie's music is both unbelievably original and extremely inspired. Both Stump and Impelitteri basically just imitate what he has done, which is why they are both watered down versions of him. Romeo, however, may be INFLUENCED by Yngwie, but def drew from other inspirations and music as well
Malmsteen may have popularized Neo-Classical shred, but Joe has perfected the essence of what IS neo-classical. His licks resemble malmsteen, but anyone with a minimal amount of shred background can agree that Joe's licks far out-perform Malmsteen in both creativity and cleanliness. He is what we shredders like to dub "technical". Malmsteen is outside the technical realm, literally floating "outside" the time signature. Malmsteen has his own sound, Stump has his own. Shred on all shredders.
"Malmsteen may have popularized Neo-Classical shred, but Joe has perfected the essence of what IS neo-classical".. Who are you fucking Guitar Confucius? shut up
Sternth Gernth dude shut the fuck up you don’t know what your talking about,joe isn’t even popular outside of these small TH-cam videos,I’m not hating on him but he’s not what you make him out to be
@@lamborgatti-4783 Stump has a much cleaner tone when playing fast if I heard stump I wouldn't think it was Malmsteen they sound different If Malmsteen and Stump battled it would be never end. They're both good Stump is the only "Malmsteen Clone" that I respect" As funny as Yngwie attitude is Stump still at least has a better attitude and is a better teacher.
Yngwie makes way better band songs
Stump makes way better solo songs
list goes on they're both good and both different(;
@@Kamikazee-we5hd I wouldn't call Stump a clone. They are indeed similar but Stump has his own spin on shred and his works are more metal so to say.
Thanks Joe for re-writing the first 2 Yngwie albums. You are the best Yngwie clone. Skills are just as sharp. Some of your songs have and original flavor to them and i like to hear them. And some like this one You had better pay 97% of all monies earned to Yngwie in royalties. I tell you what though, if you're a nice guy you are way ahead of YJM in that department. Break out of the YJM clone thing bro...expand a little bit. I do like Joe Stump though, so don't ge tme wrong...
Well my big goal after music school was to post videos of myself playing guitar in my room alone, but I guess I'm just not living the dream like you.
I think somebody needs a hug :(
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@ESPSHREDDER1293 That's cool ESPSHREDDER1293. I'm sure that shows what an Yngwie fan he is. Equally though I'm sure that Yngwie could play this (especially consider Joe's "borrowing" of Yngwie licks) I think we just need to accept that both are awesome players who are miles ahead of the rest.
yes but also connected a DOD overdrive in between his guitar and the amp.
thats awsome, was he just running his guitar through that line 6 amp?
yeahh.. joe is doc.. malmsteen, jason becker marty friedman, is my inspirational but joe stump inspire me to explore fingerins techniques,positioning,, riffs,, jason the arpeggios master,,marty the strange lick.. i want get phd ,, like JOE STUMP....
I'm cool with the "copying" (he's coping the root of the Genre, not necessarily Yngwie? Because I love the neo-classical stuff! I love Yngwie! And I love Joe! That's how trends and Genre's get started!! You have to appreciate Joe's talent!
@jfutach He took it to a whole new level beyond Yngwie's reach???..... Um, can you explain that please?.... No?..... Yea, I didn't think so.
@jfutach You can imagine playing Yngwie's stuff much sooner than playing Joe's stuff??? LMFAO. Wow. You must be really good at imagining playing the guitar.
Love this song. Lots of cool elements to it. I'm currently learning this song and I'm up to the main solo at 2:45. By the way, what line 6 amp is Joe using here? Just wondering. Sounds awesome. JOE RULEZ!!!
Has any one seen his fret board and how its sanded down. Another copy of Malmsteen.
If your not careful playing on that type of neck you can carve your hands up. But to play like Malmsteen you have to have chops. And Joe has chops.
Isn't this his office/lesson room at berklee?
@jfutach I can see why you might think that, but just because he wasn't the first person to play a diminished chord means nothing. It is well known that Yngwie's "bread and butter" is linking the harmonic minor and phrygian scale with diminished chords. Something neither of Uli or Blackmore did. To think Stump is more technically demanding is as laughable as saying he comes anywhere close to Yngwie's songwriting ability, note selection, and ORIGINALITY.
Yes, Yngwie uses "passages" from classical composers BUT Yngwie never uses passes of OTHER GUITARISTS in his own songs like Stump does. It also goes a lot deeper than the music itself. HERE: 33.3% of Stumps guitars are YNGWIE SIGNATURE strats. He uses Yngwie YJM pickups and HS-3's. He has Yngwie Singature "Black Star" Rhino amp head, has an old Marshall that belonged to Yngwie. Uses Yngwie signature DOD Pedal..even uses Yngwie Signature Dimarzio Strap. That seems like a little too much. Sorry.
@jfutach Well I agree, relentless was disappointing, I think mainly not because of the guitar playing, but because of his collaboration with Tim "Ripper" Owens, whose voice I can't stand. As for arpeggios, have you not heard "Arpeggios from Hell"? I'd LOVE to hear Stump play that! I'm as sure that Joe could, as I am that Yngwie could play "....Dragon"....oh and could either play Screaming Symphony by Impellitteri? lol Just a thought, the opening to "...dragon" is basically, "ship of fools"
He took neoclassical music on a whole new level that's well beyond Yngwie's reach (something like what Yngwie did to Blackmore in the 80s). It's useless arguing about this, can't we just enjoy the music. Even if you think he's a clone you should then be able to enjoy one more, a bit different Yngwie then :))
Plus both guys are equally as good, in my eyes.
see this guy with MAB live
@jfutach No offense, but your preference of Joe Stump over Yngwie would be like preferring an Elvis impersonator over Elvis himself. If someone sang, danced, and DRESSED exactly like Michael Jackson, would you say that he is just the same style of musician? I highly doubt it for your sake.
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This is an awesome tribute to the Maestro, by Stump! You rock, Joe!
neo.classical.fast arpeggios.alternate picking and dramatic song writing.stump owes EVERYTHING his entire repertoire to malmsteen+he isn't as fast and as clean(i love joe stump!!!!).stump is 15 notes per sec and malmsteen is 17.8 ( guitarist magazine... if ur into that sort of thing ) who cares...but he is original and a wonder....period.i saw yngwie in early 90's and again 2008...my god he's like a force of nature...awesome.
Actually if you want to be mad at somebody ,how bout Wolf Marshall . He became a Millionaire writing YJMs music on paper . I'll say it again YJM was a child prodigy ,came up with this style when he was 11 ,Stradivarius was a big influence .
@xaxexixoxa not anymore, Nikki shaved his head last night
I prefer Joe Stump, not for his neo-classical stuff, but for things like Chasing the Jack and Texas Chainsaw Boogie
@skingaz
It's a matter of taste. I've listend to everything Yngwie recorded but I've listened to Stump even more and he's much more interesting. The influence is undeniable but for me it's like comparing Ford T with a modern Ferrari. For might have invented it but I'm not gonna drive in it these days. Yngwie today seems too focused on shredding it as fast as possible and while doing that he forgets the music and the fact that people like Stump can shred twice as fast without blinking.
You can hear Blackmore all over Yngwie's tunes, but that's not the point. Yes, Stump was influenced by Yngwie and a lot more other guys (much more by Blackmore BTW). It's in fact an honor that this guy who surpassed his idols still idolises them and pays them respect in his music. As a fan of Yngwie who knows his tunes I can say Stump is original and has his own easily recognizable style.
@WildBillJP Horribly wrong how exactly? Are you going to continue the trend (which seems so popular these days) of bashing Yngwie? Or are you saying that I've got it wrong when I say that a lot of Joe's pieces contain large chunks of Yngwie's stuff? Because THAT is demonstrable the case.
@WildBillJP
If you did your homework you'd see Blackmore and Uli Jon Roth did neoclassical way before Yngwie,and Yngwie was a big Ritchie fan,down to the clothesm jewlery and,guess what,strat.You can hear diminished,and other sweeps on lot of Uli's work.Yngwie raised it up a notch, and Stump added heavier fat sound, riffs and more extreme technical demand.STill,that's of little importance:I listen to him because I like his music! and I prefer it over Yngwie's(I do like Yngwie too).
Please explain EXACTLY what I'm wrong about, and what qualifies you to say that I AM wrong?
WOW! The beginning is WAYYYYY to similar to Yngwie's "Ship of Fools." same chord progression. I don't know how Stump gets away with half of his "compositions" if most of them are yngwie's songs lol. Go listen to Ship of Fools, you will hear the same intro.
@jfutach BTW, send me a video of Stump playing and show me a specific part where he plays faster and more technical than Yngwie, I dare you...
Awesome technique ... like malmsteen (same kind of guitar, same sound, same finger rings, same kind of music, same play)
you cant compare joe stump to a yngwie clone, that's absurd. they both picked up the guitar around the same time, and they both were influenced by the same people, in fact stump more so than yngwie. Yes Stump learned alot of Yngwie's solos in the 80s but unlike yngwie he actually moves forward with his music and makes original songs instead of rereleasing 50 different versions of the same songs on 20 different cds. Joe Stump is far more inspirational in my book..sorry for such a late response.
Joe Stump and Chris Impellitteri don't approach anything differently. They approach everything as how they think Yngwie would. I'd think the way Joe dresses might have tipped you off buddy. Now, please tell me EXACTLY which scales and techniques you are referring to, and how their ideas and execution are so radically different... and be specific :)
@skingaz
It's a matter of taste. I love Yngwie too and listen to him often (I've listend to all of his albums loads of times). I find him a bit repetitive and boring when it comes to soloing, although he does have awesome chops and he obviously influenced all shredders including Stump.
He dont play guitar. He is the guitar
I hope you're not saying Impellitteri is better than Yngwie??
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@skingaz he actually can play arpeggios grom hell when i have my lesson with him one time he played a little of arpeggios of hell then played all of blitzkrieg first try it was fuckin nasty
@jfutach You know, I'm kinda sick of people kicking Yngwie. For my money, Joe Stumpe, Yngwie Malmsteen, Chris Impelltteri, and Michael Romeo are ALL awesome Neo-classical players and each approaches it slightly differently. Similar tonality, scales, techniques but different minds, ideas and execution. One of these days we'll have to have them ALL on stage together. could call it "Neo-classicon"
OK, from what I've heart of Joe, he's a rock and metal player who almost never plays blues (something Yngwie does) so no pentatonics, also a LOT more harmonics used than Yngwie. He's pretty close though, granted. Chris uses drills of 3 notes, and 6s (something Yngwie never does) and plays arpeggios swept with taps on the top (again something Yngwie never does) His later stuff is also more metal than neo-classical. Also, Chris "chicken picks" 6 note pedals, which Yngwie does not.
@skingaz We may be on the same side lol
@jfutach Well that's the problem when you listen to a guy's entire collection of opera, you WILL hear repetitions. I'm sure that, if we listen to enough Joe Stump, or Michael Romeo, or Steve Vai or Joe Satriani (just to widen the players out) the same would eventually be true.
I've been reading Joe Stump's website, and he actually cites Yngwie (as does Michael Romeo) as a major influence, so perhaps people should give him more respect and credit.
Do you have an actual argument or point which makes sense and is based on actual MUSIC THEORY? or is that just something you say because you don't? :)
Well, if you listen to him doing interviews or commenting his tunes you'll hear he deliberately puts short passages of his heroes' music. He did it with Paganini and Bach and Blackmore and so did Yngwie - I see no reason why he should be blamed for this.
And really, if you look at this without Yngwie glasses on you'll see Yngwie can't touch this from either compositional, technical, melodic or just pure power point of view . Just for the record - I'm also a fan of Yngwie.
@jfutach Well, I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree here. You are clearly a stump fan, while I am an Yngwie fan who has an appreciation for other Neo-classical players, like Stump, Impellitteri etc. I do think that you're being unfair to Yngwie though, probably because of his last album (relentless) which wasn't as good as the two previous. You really CANNOT call "Attack" or "UTF" unmusical though. "twice as fast"? I don't think so. Plus stumps licks ARE Yngwie's licks, remember that.
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Joe Stump is an Yngwie clone, a very good one though. Even though he made great original music you cannot compare him to the God Malmsteen who made everything that Joe plays possible. No Stump without Yngwie
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this dude is amazing!! but its just Yngwie.... he's got some serious chops though..man