Thought I had mentioned it in the video but Forgot to mention of course a Stellaron will be involved and might just be causing issues with the memory a long with a lord ravager being involved because of the stellaron, But If we get to live and play out a past memory do you think we'll meet Ena whoever that was before they became an Aeon? Which Aeons do you think are at play here? & Do you think Amphoreus will be in the past, Present Or both at the same time? Let me know your thoughts very excited for 3.0 :)
Nihility in the form of Theta and the looming phrase “rotate one’s understanding”, rememberance (obvious), and enigmata (opposition to both rememberance and nihility) I actually think that in the 3.0 patches, we will get the nihility trailblazer (somewhere around 3.7) along with the rememberance trailblazer because of the hidden signs. Theta means both rotation and angles in mathematics. However, theta also means the number nine in Greek semantics (ironic). Thus, because patch 2.7 is referring to “And on the eighth day”, sometime after the amphoreus arc, we will go back to penacony to witness the ninth day (the day of nihility) where all of penacony becomes swallowed by IX’s shadow just like Acheron’s home planet. That is most likely when we will get the nihility trailblazer path while Acheron will summon the trailblazer back to Amphoreus and discuss some info about Theta and Nihility and how to save Penacony’s ninth and final day.
I'd like to add my own theory, something I haven't seen a single person talk about. It'll be a huge wall of text, so be ready - In the description for Amphoreus's trailer, they name every character introduced in the list shown at the end. In the exact order that they're shown. _But_ two of the names are blurred, despite there being _four_ characters that are shadows. Those two being the red one holding up what looks like a mask onto her face, and the other yellow-themed one with a mask and holding a flame. Why only two...? Why not blurr all four? And why the two that seem to _have masks_ ? Now, it just so happens that during the Cosmodyssey event back in version 2.1, there's an event called "Sparkle" where Sparkle "proclaims herself to be the divine mecha, in charge of screenwriting in ancient times at Amphoreus", which is the first ever mention that we get of Amphoreus, way before Black Swan's reveal. So, we know at least Sparkle, and the Masked Fools, know of Amphoreus, and most likely have been to it. "Amphoreus" also just so happens to be a reference to "Amphitheatre", and where was theatre created? You guessed it, Ancient Greece. With those stone, circular structures. Let's talk about Sampo. In many lore drops by hoyo, it's said that Sampo often disguises himself to cause mischief, once as an old woman, and as a guard, and he passes whatever he disguises as easily. We know he's a Masked Fool that isn't truly from Belobog. Also, when you use the "Rating Gun" curio in Herta Space Station on Sampo, he gets the "invalid" rating, just like all of the other emanators. Also, we know that Sampo gave Seele her scythe. Scythe that feels very out of place in Belobog with the teleport shenanigans, looks extremely sci-fi and powerful for a place cut out from the outside like Belobog. Where did he get it? Where'd he get that scythe? Well, Seele's ultimate, "disappear among the sea of butterflies, illusions of the past!" gives us a clue. In chinese it translates directly to "Disappear along with the butterflies, illusions of the past". In Japanese culture, butterflies often represent the wandering souls of the deceased. So basically, as she kills her target, she turns them into a "butterfly", the "illusions of the past" being the remains of the souls, hence why they "disappear with the butterflies". Scythe also has a bit of a "grim reaper" vibe. Now, in Amphoreus, we're introduced to Castorice. Her whole design is based on a butterfly, her butterflies look _very_ similar to Seele's ones, even her attire does, and she's the "Daughter of River Styx", someone that can give _rest to soul_ with a simple touch, fitting to perfection with the whole "butterflies as the souls of the deceased" thing. I'm just saying, if Sampo comes from Amphoreus, then Seele's Scythe could definitely come from Castorice, which would make a _ton_ of sense. Next, Sampo's blue hair is dyed. If you look at the back of his hair, at the bottom, his real, natural hair color is white. White just like Kalpas, the character that the yellow background, unnamed masked guy is based on. On top of having _very_ similar hairstyles as Kalpas in his E6 eidolon where Sampo has his "natural" hairstyle. If Sparkle and Sampo _don't_ come from Amphoreus, the land of theatre, then where else would they come from...? Nowhere else makes as much sense as Amphoreus for them. Two Masked Fools, two masked characters, two "actors" that always make references to "the stage", theatre stuff, everything being a "play" to entertain the Tavern. And, two unnamed characters in the trailer that have masks that they refuse to name, as if it'd spoil us. How odd. So yeah I'm calling it, the red character is Sparkle but in her original, Chrysos Heir attire, and the yellow one with the flame and the sick mask is Sampo's revealed masked form.
Since the TB's path is Remembrance and using a feather as weapon, my take is that TB's role is to write / rewrite the whole history and fate of Amphoreus. It's possible that this is consequence of a whole world being transformed to a memetic entity, the power of memory will play an important part in the main quest and up to an witness to record it all. Another interesing to note that in the trailer the number 3 is being contantly repeated. 3 faced-Messanger. 3 Paths in war. 3 Titans. Even there's 12th Flamecore Bearers and Cerysa is the 13th. So my take the narrative style of Amphoreus's quest will be a Hero's Journey. The beginning, the motivation, the quest, the lowest point, the development and finally the resolution.
I'm still convinced that if Amphoreus has aspects of the past existing in the present and future at the same time (like a world whose entire timeline moves forward with it/a sort-of endless resurrection cycle) then Herta's interest will lie at figuring out ways to harness the ability to 'weave time' in a similar way to how Polka Kakamond has managed to do it so that she can be given a proper audience to meet Polka face to face, ESPECIALLY after the Sim U expansion we just got
Yeah especially with the recent polka kakamond arc I think so as well and with the connecting between elysian realm.and the 13 flame chasers, Having some past and present mixture could be a very interesting story
Yeah, I was thinking that too. The new region doesn’t seem to have IX’s signature style written over it, that is, it would have been erased by a black hole like Izumo.
I also thought of that when the trailer itself came out, but then recalled Greek mythology gods have golden blood, so it could just be the native gods.
What if the 3 Aeons are from Destruction, Finality and Remembrance? - I mean the last Symbol we saw in the Trailer was an infinity one and it's said Finality isn't the end but the begin of something new Story: collapse of the civilization [Destruction] -> recording [Remembrance] -> restart [Finality] -> Destruction -> ... etc. And we literally just see/relive the story of the old 12/13 Hero's that fighted an Emanator of Destruction and lost at the end until we can rewrite Story thanks to expi Elysia (path Finality?) and safe the world to get a good romantic end instead. (that somehow change the history because we literally traveled back in time.)
Ya that could also make a lot of sense or somewhere in the middle maybe I think a lord ravager and a stellaron will be involved forsure I just wonder if that memory, flame chasers and fight with a lord ravager might be happening in another realm but I done if nanook would be one of the 3 aeons because it isn't that old of an aeon, like the lord ravagers and inc will stick their nose everywhere we go but I don't think destruction is on of the 3 aeons black swan refers to but I could be wrong
@@emincash6931 wasn't all Star Rail writing up to date lazy? All space comedy thing is Hitchhiker's guide to galaxy, worldbuilding is basically Warhammer 40k with more gods, and three arcs as follows: Orphanage in Siberia, Seven Swords, Project Stigmata/Human Instrumentality, if we are talking about more "original" one.
If there’s a connection to the Order here, that’s going to work great with the theory that Sunday will be joining the Astral Express. He’ll get to see the aftermath of a world controlled by Order, and how it spiraled and fell to ruin. A major shakeup to his faith that would push him to further accept the Trailblaze.
I feel like our trailblaze journey will be about recording the correct history of Amphoreus. I just assumed that the notebook and pen has in their splash art is would relate so much.
The Chrysos Heirs are the HSR's version of the 13 Flamechasers but I can't shake the feeling that each of them are also referenced to some Greek Gods or demi gods, like for example Mydei is how I picture Ares would look like in an anime, Anaxa and Aglaea's design are so reminiscent of Hades and Aphrodite's deisgn in the anime Records of Ragnarok and Castorice kinda reminds me of Nyx
Well you are not too far of there. Anaxagoras is a reference to a renowned Greek mathematician, Aglaea is named after a minor Goddess of beauty usually a handmaiden of Aphrodite and Mydeimos is I believe a reference to the God of terror and madness on the battlefield brother of Phobos (fear) and son of Ares and Aphrodite. I don't know about the rest but I think I see a pattern that am pretty sure I like.
This actually explains a lot to me since I learned about the existence of Anaxa (shortened from Anaxagoras)! HE MIGHT BE THE KEY THAT CONNECTED ALL THE DOTS HERE. Anaxagoras was the first Pre-Socratic philosopher to introduce the concept of Nous (though his definition of Nous might be somewhere between what Ena did to the universe-ordering and gathering all the small particles into something more logical). Perhaps it’s implied that, before Nous ascended into aeonhood, Ena's entire existence wasn't the total answer to the chaotic universe! So, the birth of Nous may came after the memories of Amphoreus had faded. Anaxagoras believed that there was more existence than just order (divine gods, etc., like the Titans), which explains why his character is introduced as Anaxa, the foolish one who disrespects the god (Ena) and seeks Nous! Later, the knowledge and logic themselves were gathered by Nous. Anaxa may have been the one who gave Nous the ideal of its own existence. Additionally, it’s stated by Herta that Fuli knew all the memories of everything but was still after Nous (which can be implied that Nous probably knew all the memories of the past too in order to solve all the present questions in the universe). BONUS: Anaxagoras was one of the first person to discover the truth behind those fake suns (the truth of god)in Amphoreus, since Anaxagoras was the first to point out that the moon is just a rock, and the sun is just a fire rock, which could insulted religious people who believed in Helios/Selene(sun moom gods during titans era )😭. (English is not my first language, so I may not have explained everything clearly, but I hope anyone can understand what I was trying to say. Please continue my delusion!)
One intresting detail is that in the trailer in one moment you can see a shadowed hand likely playing chess and there is a unamed Lord Ravanger called Chess player in one of xianzhou texts
My personal prediction for Amphoreus is Order (the eye looks a lot like the Order symbol) Destruction (Golden blood, Nanook’s calling card) Remembrance (The first two characters of that new version are literally Remembrance, so it’d be kinda weird if it wasn’t involved beyond being the way there) The timelines don’t really match up but maybe it’s some sort of time dilation thing because you can get there only through the garden of recollection?? But it’s just a theory-
The finality could have severely affected amphoreus which lets these different timelines exist in one, which makes sense to me especially since finality is starting to get more involvement in the game
There is an equation in DU called City Restorer that literally tells us a story about recreating an already destroyed world from memories, I'm 99% sure that it's the same with Amphoreus. We probably wouldn't even have been able to go there if we didn't get to Penacony first. They're totally connected to each other
I thought of nanook and I think a stellaron will play a part a long with a lord ravager but I think nanook isn't part of its history cause nanook isn't that old of an aeons but I could be wrong
@@TheGamerChronicles999that doesn't negate anything tbh, Nanook isn't old to other aeons but they are indeed ancient, they ascended a little after the Swarm Disaster which is also where Ena's reign came to an end, it's kinda believed everything went wrong after Ena left due to how they're associated with eyes and the machines Amphoreus had also had those same eyes, plus the whole destruction thing obviously
I think of what you said and I think Amphoreus is not just a memory but actually a time loop caused by Elysia expy when their world almost collapse and making it a time loop of destruction and reversing the time until The Trailblazers become a alien piece which ultimately help Amphoreus breaks from the time loop
YO not even finished yet but imagine this chapter takes place in the past memory most aeons would not even beeen ascended or born yet and and we meet ena the person before they were an aeon? That would be insane! So this whole story could be in hsr versionnof the elysian realm which is a giant memory? Sorry have t finished just wanted to comment before I lose my train pf thought but this new chapter might be peak!
Personality I think the story is a loop memory starting from the good things to the bad, and the Chrysos heirs are reliving they're stories over and over again like in simulations and the Trailbazlers will find away to break the characters out of their simulations and eventually they will branch off... Im coping they are alive and we dont get to meet them through memories.
@@devilofgreed760 You think Destruction is one of the 3 aeons? I think lord ravager forsure cause of the stellaron but I honestly didnt think it would be destruction but perhaps will be interesting to find out!
@@TheGamerChronicles999the golden blood is strong related to Nanook that bleeding golden blood The Titans goin mad is hard to guess which one, the unlimited black spawn from Acheron world or the belobog Stellaron infection, its even possible that 13 "Flamechaser" is the only thing that holding back Lord Ravager from bring total destruction in Amphoreus ( as if They try to, after the planet lost Ena's Blessing ) Nihility and Finality Shares same last page of purpose/ending yet different act. I think Finality is weaker than Remembrance Authority, but Nihility will never be able goes with Remembrance that "remember everything" So the most possibly involved in Amphoreus is Nanook, IX, Fuli Consider Ena not counted as the World lost her bless / her power cant reach there anymore.
As i see it ena was definitely the amphoreus' aeon, there are a lot of reference (one of them being the eye), the heretical black tide may be a lot of things, for example the influence of the stellaron, but i personally think it' the swarm, we know that ena asked qlipoth for help during the swarm distaster to kill tayzzyronth. The "heirs" are not the titans' heirs, but they have golden blood in them (linked to nanook?). As for the final villain he may be a lord ravager since we can clearly see a chessboaard and we know one of nanook's emanators like to play chess. From what the trailer said not all the titans are dead and we most likely have to kill them. Lastly a nameless king is mentioned and kevin's expy shows up, i think that he most likely is not the nameless king, but one between sunday or the mc will be (of course iìm not a 100% sure sunday will come with us, but it would make sense since he was also linked to the order)
In my opinion, the true main themes of 3.0-3.7/8 are decay and loss especially with the supposed three paths involved: The Remembrance, The nihility, and The Erudition. This is because the main symbol that I presume will be discussed during 3.2-3.3 and 3.6-3.7 is Theta aka the Greek symbol representing a plethora of concepts. In mathematics, it most commonly represents rotation and angles and is a prime staple of trigonometric functions (transcendental functions). Transcendental functions signify the role of transcendance which is above and beyond ascension into Aeonhood. With rotation, you can rotate your understanding which aligns with Nous because the Geniuses’ cognition can be augmented through rotation and further multiplication of imaginary numbers. This can mean that the Geniuses’ as emanations of Nous can funnel their own imaginary energy back into Nous making Nous more powerful. My hypothesis is that emanators serve as an investment for Aeons and by investing THEIR imaginary energy into THEIR emanators, THEY hope that THEIR emanators can share back new imaginary energy into THEM. Regarding Nihility, signs suggest that this would play a huge roll in connecting amphoreus with penacony. I presume that a future trailblazer continuance mission sometime in patch 3- will consist of the ninth day of Penacony involving the mission where the trailblazer will unlock the nihility path while witnessing the worlds of penacony and amohoreus consumed by IX’s shadow. With continuous echoes of Theta, the trailblazer’s perception of the world will be completely rotated and forever changed in a new direction.
Sunday will be one of the express crew I fundamentally agree with you but i do think that we won't be in another dream/ memory but in a planet that is stuck in a time loop of it's destruction yet it seemes the new characters are the key to break that chain along us if course.
There's a lot of imagery related to Nanook, one of my theories is that it might be related to the story of how Nanook became an Aeon, with the stories of THEIR planet suffering a disaster
Oh fuck no. Wait they really use the words elysian realm and flame chasers in HSR, thats going to make googling ANYTHING for HI3 even more difficult then it already was😭 For those that don't know, googling ANYTHING for HI3 has become extremely hard since HSR's release no matter wat keywords you use
I hope to god when they release fu hua's expy (which canonically exists) atleast her last name is changed... and pls for the love of God kiana change her name please or just do the same as with acheron
Anyone realize at 3:00 in the trailer, the narrator mentioned "You will see outlanders...." and there's the shadows of a train and a person(could be one of the silhouettes). It could indicates that another Trailblazer came to Amphoreus but failed to help saving it 🤔
i still feel welt is doctor of chaos :D nihility path, spoke already with IX, and showed him that here is sense to safe a world, welt was always protector
1:07 this is even more true now that we know that Penacony's main story writer is also writing Amphoreus' story. God I'm actually so stoked for this update.
We got a new path called rememberance. For it to be called that that’s a huge indicator that means this place only exist in memories. So it would make sense that it’s not real. But famously made through the memories of humanity. What we think what happened. I’m just curious how does summons come into play.
There is a chance that there are actually 4 aeons at play and not just 3. In Peanacony, they were following the harmony until the order came back, flurished and corrupted its influence, leading us to the nihility with the slow detoritiation since harmony and nihility seems to be twins path... As we look at the greek society, knowledge should be considered very important and thus, erudition too - looking at the trailer, we can see somehow we really look like Dr. Ratio with his students. The Dr. we know is in pursuit of knowledge to cure ignorance, that pursuit justifies the hunt but also, the erudition path.. If the greek society from which they were inspired was following the path of erudition as i ponder, and the order flurished then corrupted its influence leading is to the enigmata as the twin sister path of the erudition.. so everything we would know could have been tempered with, as well as what the memokeepers might have recollected. Therefore, we would have the order, the souvenir, erudition and enigmata.. all four at play.. the enigmata dissimulating itself while having corrupted everything we might have learned. Herta being interested in Amphoreus might be explained by the fact that if there is a way to find the truth of what really happened, there is a way to navigate the unknowable domain and more, in the pursuit of all knowledge.. reversing the effects of enigmata. lol, here what I'm thinking about right now. Feel free to enlighten me on my misunderstandings.
As a HI3rd player, I’m an absolutely certain that Amphoreus is long gone and that we will just play in its memory. It would crazier if it is destined to be destroyed by some kind of ‘corruption’ hint hint, and that we try to fight it. And that everything builds to the idea of a samsara of sorts, and that death is more merciful than these eternal loops. But really I’m just waiting for the heads to roll, HSR isn’t afraid of character deaths (well, Tingyun stayed dead for all of what, 13, 14 patches.) and neither was Honkai Impact 3rd. I better see a reenactment and visualization of Eden’s death because my god. Regardless, Elysia and Kevin are the two that everyone will need to keep their eyes on going forward. I doubt Elysia will just remain in her surprisingly modern outfit, and I doubt that Kevin is fully human, at least, not anymore. The whole point of ER (Elysian Realm) was that they were dead 50,000 years ago, their AI recreations knew that, and Mei struggles with the meaningfulness of everything. Yet she comes to terms with its ending, and carries their legacy and her memories of them into the future. Would like to see that again. Side note: why do you keep pronouncing it flame ch-A-ser instead of Flamechaser 😭
Well, if Amphoreus really is a memory built world like Elysian Realm was, than Myphus the Enigmata is the corruption you're looking for. It is the only path, that can influence dreams without help (thanks to Myphus' manifestation in memory space) exactly "corrupting" it with false information, so the memetical entities like memokeepers die from it or transform into memes. Actually, Myphus (along with Ena and Fuli) is one of that main paths for Amphoreus
I don’t want all these 13 characters to just be memories. We went through this with the Elysian Realm in HI3 part 1 and the 7 shus in HI3 part 2 this year. It’s definitely not crazy to think it will be the case though. Also, if finality is not one of the 3 paths I will be shocked. The two characters in HI3 the most linked to finality are Kevin and Kiana, and Kevin is here. You could replace it with Nihility like they did for Acheron though but I am expecting they use finality instead, especially if they are doomed to fail and this is a memory. Remembrance is certainly another path though as there is no way it isn’t.
I think its possible but it would be weird for Black swan to talk about as a planet if its just a memory, and like other people mentioned my forst thought about the golden blood scnee wasnt the nihility, it was nanook, there is even a scene of someone moving a chess piece and we know there is a lord ravager that operates as if they were playing chess
When i see the eyes on the arms of that being, i think of Yaoshi, so that was who I initially expected to be one of the 3, but it makes more sense to be Ena here
I’m calling the “death and gloom” is finality, not nihility. After PF’s release, we got mentions of history fics, and then we got Gallagher, Dormancy, Misha, etc in 3.0. beings born from memoria and thus rememberance, but don’t technically exist. Now, after Penacony has ended, we were told that the Stellaron hunters follow the path of Finality, a confirmation of that theory. Along with a Herald of finality in the dreamflux reef, bringing… ding! A new endgame mode, just like PF.
Hi3rd lore aside, Amporheus being referenced to Elysium is not far fetched because in Greek myth, Elysium is a paradise for dead heroes, goverened by Hades
@@LucielleFerus Finality in HSR seems to be totally different in Hi3rd, instead of actively doing something to cause the Finality, it lets other forces to do the deed, so no, I think not.
Not trying to break lore but I’m just suddenly thinking how will the new cast be sending us text messages and visiting the express. Like is The Herta going to help us with all that or do they have their own type of communication devices in Amphoreus 😂
Pretty sure the most basic of communication devices would be there. It’s just a Greek inspired world not a Greek world. Though, similar to how xianzhou has cycranes maybe amphoreous also has their own specialized way to communicate.
So… Fuli wants Amphoreus to be remembered while the Enigmata wants it to be left in the past for no one to find again. Is this where we’ll have to utilize the Remembrance Trailblazer to fight off a villain of the Enigma Aeon?
I think we are not just going to witness a memory, we are going to find a way to fix the cycle that this world should be under and has been broken(indicated by the broken infinity symbol in the end of the trailer) and by fixing it, we will find out something big about the universe(Eon ascenscion could be interesting). It very much looks like a story about heroes, legends and history. How heroes are viewed by their contemporaries and in history (Remembrance) How history becomes legend (Enigmata) And how time erodes and degrades history (Destruction/Nihility)
I think the three plan is that this planet is associated with are destruction erudition and remembrance considering always see of the teaser with this plan is just chaos and war it makes sense if the destruction has something to do with it For the erudition, I think it’s kind of interesting how herta a member of the genius Society and a eminator of the erudition is able to even see the planet plus the remembrance and the erudition are very similar paths one acquires knowledge while the other acquires memories which is basically knowledge of its own makes sense that would be able to see the planet and for the remembrance well considering that her faction knows of this planet it’s highly likely it’s associated with the remembrance as well, especially since memory is a type of eternity so you might be right abt the planet being just a giant memory, especially since the planet itself doesn’t even look physical unlike the others that we’ve seen I’m not sure if ena the order will have something to do with it, especially since we’ve already had penacony dealing with it but it’s a nice thought to have I'm not really familiar with the flame chasers at all so I have no idea how this story could go but I do find it quite interesting how Kevin in hsr has a very similar design to sunday two characters who seem to parallel each other
3 Reasons as to why i believe it's Order, Destruction And remembrance: 1. Ena's eye (And her civilizations always ending in disaster) 2. Nanook's golden blood 3. Remembrance trailblazer + A pretty obvious hint. (Bonus, Sunday cope juice. You'll know what i mean soon enough) 3 Reasons as to why i believe it's not finality, destruction and remembrance and or even nihility: 1. This one is definitely a stretch, but the most conformation we get of the finality is a infinity circle at the near ends of the trailer. 2. Lore accurate nihility is... Uhm.... Different.. From other Aeons (It doesn't even know of it's own existence) 3. Another stretch, but if we are going to say that HI3 and HSR are connected, (which yes, they definitely seem to be connected) Wouldn't that make the Cocoon of finality the Aeon of finality? Keep in mind, the Cocoon is kind of... Asleep, so i barely bet that they're going to be here watching or practically fighting over Amphoreus.
I think you are right about the Aeons. I don't think Nihility plays a role really in any storyline, at least not consciously. The many eyes in the trailer, and the puppets, as well as the civilization thriving I think is because of Ena, and then the destruction came, Nanook, and finally Remembrance since we are looking at everything afterwards. Something about Amphoreus being "unobservable" is really interesting to me because it hints that it may be a world that is just a memory or one that is influenced by Memoria in a special way. Plus we use our eyes to observe things, and Ena being a giant eye is very interesting. Amphi means "both sides" in Greek, and Phoreus means "carrier" or "to carry" so Amphoreus could just be a vessel essentially, and it could be dual-sided in nature, observable and unobservable perhaps? Or past and present? Or dark and light? Not sure, but I'm certainly curious.
I believe the story for this new planet we will be going through periods of time in which the planet is ruled by different Aeons. First will be Ena, then Nanook, XI then we will meet the Remembrance Aeon who was the one who gave us the ability to see the planet throughout the eras.
Herta coming to Amphoreus is a great connection between one of the aeons being nous. Remembrance because of memokeepers. And sunday because he follows the path of order and because he’s going to amphoreus with us.
HSR story is basically the story about traveling to different worlds on the Imaginary Tree, So I'm not surprised if we meet more than one character variant in the future story
One other thing im excited about Rememberance is that Black Swan might get a new form and has an Emanator like kit that Acheron has and tnat Herta might have
Say my name when a tree susurrates Once and again telling a story lost in time The way it starts and the way it ends Never again making up stories in dismay With several starts, but just one end Ah, how I long to embrace The future breaking out of shades from the past Still ablaze Save your tears for the day so far away To irrigate the wilderness that's still asleep In the world waiting to be lit To spread over the riverbeds so dry and dead Let ships that ran aground re-launch their sails Ah, how I long to еmbrace The future brеaking out of shades from the past Still ablaze Seeds bear new life when flowers dare to fade Petals linger about awaiting one last dance Shaking off all the dust from the past New stories have yet to start
Sunday about to learn what happens if he succeeds. Let’s hope he actually stays with us in the express at least until this arc is over then he can go back with robin
I can't even begin to tell y'all how excited I am for the Amphoreus release. Elysian Realm was my absolute favorite arc of all time (even though it emotionally destroyed me), and seeing them all again, especially Elysia, is almost cathartic. I just hope the writers don't get any silly ideas regarding their fates
I REALLY hope well get 5 star march here no really elysia looks like march(and vice versa) and also amphoreas is connected to memories with elysia having greek inspired name really gives hope we don't have much proof but i want to believe
The entire world just being a memory would be too much of a continuance of Penacony's Memory Zone stuff and it wouldn't explain how a Stellaron would play into it. Remember, every world we've visited had a Stellaron at being the root of that world's issues. What I think is happening is that a Stellaron disaster is unfolding, causing the Black Tide and possibly even summoning a branch of the Legion. Now they stand at the crossroads between 3 Paths to determine their future. Give up and dissolve into nothingness through Nihility, eternally cycle through these trials through Remembrance, or tread a new path and possibly use the Remembrance to bring themselves back into the universe proper.
The community no longer uses "expy" or exports to refer to the different characters in the hoyoverse games if I'M not wrong the term the lore heads are using is variant.
Penacony introduced the idea of two aeons with similar paths assimilating together, and I think Amphoreus may represent the assimilation of the Remembrance and Erudition. Just as Harmony and Order can be closely aligned, so too can memories and data. Black Swan may be interested in restoring the original memory of Amphoreus while the Genius Society may be interested in using the immense power displayed by the scepters to absorb and/or manipulate the world’s memories.
I think Amphoreus is going to be the imperfect memory of Fuli's ascension. I suspect the trailblazer's mission is to see through the fiction (enigmata), and learn (erudition) the truth. Piecing together and documenting the real story behind the rise of Fuli to create an accurate memory. I believe this to be the main reason why Black Swan came to Penacony, as this would likely be one of the most interesting memories to a memokeeper. This would explain why she approached the express crew. I vaguely remember her asking Himeko and Welt for an exchange related to the Remembrance in 2.0. Her light cone being named 'Reforged Remembrance' could be foreshadowing for all of this.
I think it was actually Nanook the destruction, the black sun and golden blood is more of his thing and the description of chaos, madness, war feels more related to destruction, nihility usually has a more hopeless vibe. It would also match with the timeline where Nanook ascended sometime after Ena's fall.
It's funny that this world looks exactly like the world that we see when Sapphire is mentioned from the Stone hearts. Is this world that sapphire is from?
what do you think about them following finality? terminus moves backwards in time, and they murmur a prophecy that WILL be fulfilled. they’re also the end of other paths and aeons, what if amphoreus followed a path that no longer exists because of terminus? i wonder if terminus told amphoreus something that goes against the path they follow, which caused the death of the aeon and the chaos in amphoreus? i think your ena theory is good, and tbh i don’t know how likely it is that they’ll include ena in another world, but i do think the third aeon can be ena or mythus tho
@coraW Yeah definitely potential for finality or destruction its just not the initial impression I get especially since I think finality will be much more endgame aeon but definitely possible
the golden blood is strong related to Nanook that bleeding golden blood The Titans goin mad is hard to guess which one, the unlimited black spawn from Acheron world or the belobog Stellaron infection, its even possible that 13 "Flamechaser" is the only thing that holding back Lord Ravager from bring total destruction in Amphoreus ( as if They try to, after the planet lost Ena's Blessing ) Nihility and Finality Shares same last page of purpose/ending yet different act. I think Finality is weaker than Remembrance Authority, but Nihility will never be able goes with Remembrance that "remember everything" So the most possibly involved in Amphoreus is Nanook, IX, Fuli Consider Ena not counted as the World lost her bless / her power cant reach there anymore.
Ok, so in short: Amphoreus was created/saved by/the home of Ena. After its collapse (probably due to another Aeon, such as Nihility, or a Lord Ravager) it was record by the Garden of Recollection, that's why it's accesible through only there and also why Akivilli never reached it - it was destroyed before THEY could. The rumours about Sunday joining the Express make more sense now, if it means he'll be visiting a realm once governed by Ena and will be able to see firsthand what an Ena ruled world looks alike. Also, I know that in the trailer there are hints to Ena, Nanook and IX and that given Herta's involvement, Nous or Mythus could also be involved, but I can't stop thinking one of the 3 paths could be The Elation. The Greeks were the creators of theater and the Drama/Comedy masks are present in Aha's design. It just fits so well... Plus, confusion and riddles are also Aha motiffs, it's just that THEIR motivation behind those are different from Mythus'. But my own nonsensical ideas aside, focusing only on what we know from trailers and lore, my guess it's that the (current) three paths are Remembrance (of course), Enigmata and Destruction. Maaaaybe Nihility... But I think The Enigmata makes more sense.
i also thought of ena when watching this trailer, although when it comes to their gods having left them i thought more about ena getting absorbed into xipe, since swarm disaster described the planets run by ena post their disappearance as being in disarray and confusion. i suppose it depends. i think order will be present in the past of amphoreus but not necessarily be one of the three paths. i will say that a few things you noted as looking biblical, like the art at the end, were moreso resembling renaissance style things with the large sky and people hung around it, and the renaissance style was a time of revived interest in the classics of greece and rome, with there also being a lot of religious art since europe was majority christian at the time. that is to say, those things may not necessarily be "bible" things. the memory idea is interesting because i think parts of it are definitely gonna pan out that way, but also from a gameplay perspective amphoreus needs to be a permanent location, and having an entire cast of characters be already dead in some way is something i dont believe they'd do given hsr's track record, so i dont think its going to be as blatant as "everything is already destroyed and these people are all just memories"
Omg, this makes perfect sense when you consider Hoyoverse's shared themes across their different games. You already pointed out the obvious connections between Amphoreus and Honkai Impact 3rd's Flamechasers/Elysian Realm and I wanna mention how, if your theory is true, it would basically just be Tsurumi Island from Genshin. The Ley Line disorder on the island caused a time-loop that basically lead to a near perfect preservation of memories. Amphoreus could be like that, except planet-sized. Maybe the Garden of Recollection is testing out new technology to help preserve doomed worlds? Or maybe we have to help them get rid of the memory altogether for one reason or another? Either way, I am HYPED!!!!!
The eye (like in genshin) might just represent knowledge (forbidden knowledge) hence the eye might be linked to nous and the “magic” / “knowledge” in the new region
I think Amphoreus is a time loop and the Nameless’ mission is to break that loop. Also, your order theory maybe valid considering how Sunday joining the Astral Express is itself a hint that the next storyline will involve Order again. It is a path Sunday is familiar with.
I really hope the world isn't only a memory, I don't think my heart could handle another Mikhail and Gallagher situation. But I think a cool thing we could see is another Lord Ravager or one of the Annihilation gang members causing more destruction on this already razed planet
I’ve seen other comments but maybe this is a world stuck in time situation. Maybe Ena intervened somehow or the remembrance is keeping the world in that state until it’s able to be saved. Maybe that’s why it can only be accessed by a reflected light that’s from the garden of recollection.
@@starstudios2959 possibly. But if it does turn out that Amphorous is only in memory and our actions don’t really do anything to change its fate, that’s kinda sucky.
Because 3.0 is Amphorues(Can’t remember spelling) I’m suprised Sunday wasn’t apart of that opening considering the fact that in 2.7 he abandoned the path leading to Harmony altogether and is finding himself before leaving on a journey and 3.0 is literally going to a planet that used to be so close to their gods through believe and worship and have fallen into a state of Disharmony.
I'm so convinced of this theory (at least the main part of experiencing the memory of the world) that I'm gonna be mad if it is true cause that means I got a crazy plot twist spoiled lol
I think that it's actually Remembrance, Enigmata, and Erudition because they all have a connecting theme of information. Remembrance is the past, Enigmata is the present, and Erudition is the prediction/the future. Erudition and Enigmata is constantly in conflict because their beliefs are extremely different in that Erudition's prediction is the opposite of Enigmata, which focuses on choice in the present.
Ngl I agree with most points and I’ve predicted half of the things a few months ago ,but I think the third path is actually finality instead of nihility due to many reasons: - finality seems to be the foul to trailblaze -Elio seems to have a lot of eye and sun motives and he’s very likely the Emanator of finality (elio is also italianisied name of Helios the god of the sun in Greek mythology 😇😇) I think the world is a memory too but one that repeats itself over and over like a timeloop. And with ENA also low-key possibly playing a role it prob means Sunday will be very important for the next… Tbh I think that either an aeon ascended on amphoreus or an emantor … like the emantor of finality who’s ascension caused a timeloop… considering how amphoreus looks like a unlimited sigh which too could imply a timeloop (-> finality)
I really really doubt its ena the order since we just got it. But the black tide is indeed nihility or destruction and the ones left remembrance and enigmata (or erudition).
The infinity sign is what the planet is gonna look like when we travel to it on the express it’s gonna looks like a giant rainbow infinity symbol. It’s stunning and I LOVE THE GREEK GODS. This isn’t what I was expecting at all. I also think sapphire is gonna be remembrance
We knew that this was going to happen, the HSR Flame Chasers variances! I just need Kalpas's (my biological son) to be happy and BFFLs with the Nameless! And to make it hurt more, it's just going to be a memory/dream bubble type of thing. Think about it- this is the funniest, light-hearted, hopefully patch that stabs us in the chest at the end
I also thin nihility makes sense cause like we seen with archon with the deeamscape and black swan in the trailer nihility seems to pay no mind to rememberance so nihility finding this memory world would make sense
I don't think destruction is one of the three paths that govern Amphoreus. Just like in other places we've been, there is most likely just a stellaron corruption or maybe a lord ravager involved, not Nanook Themselves And also not Ena, Yes Ena was a pivotal figure that helped Amphoreus reach the golden era. Then the dark ages come, i think this is because Ena was absorbed by Xipe and because of that the Titans gone uncontrolled Imo, the three paths are: Remembrance, Finality/Nihility (idk), and Erudition My argument for why Erudition? Yes the answer is mindblowing i know, because Herta. But I'll argue further, Herta's very much intrigued by Amphoreus. Being an emanator of erudition, she must be well versed in any depths of knowledge especially Fate. Nous' calculations are Fate itself (somewhat). In the trailer Herta said "will your answer be any different? Amphoreus" it's like Herta is wondering if Amphoreus can change it's own destiny Fate theme is heavy in the 3.x storyline. Fate is also Finality's main subject, but we didn't have too much information rn to extrapolate further other than Elio's scripts. Herta's involvement is driven by her curiosity of finding ways to gain new knowledge that maybe can make Nous active again (Nous is currently inactive because of unknown reasons). Why not Enigmata? All of the followers of Erudition don't give a single s*** about Enigmata, just like Dr. Ratio doesn't see stupid people a human And in 2.6, the new SU expansion: Unknowable Domains featured Polka Kakamond, the Genius Society member that (seemingly) defied Nous' calculations, defying fate itself (allegedly), just like what Amphoreus is trying to do And also Fate collab, lol
I agree I think nanook wasn't around yet and something to do with a stellaron so prob a lord ravager but ya Ena would be part of its past not one of the 3 aeons involved currently
O, wait , remember what say that Remembers can see this planet tho mirrors, you know start right, there suns that already die light years away , we see there demise already. Maybe is like Penacony were we enter a dream realm , a Elysia dream realm of the place .... But again, it could be just a planet trap in a pocket bubbler and the set new toys be alive and not dead and revive as a memory ...is a 50/50
Actually with nihility, guess who's a confirmed nihility emanator? Acheron or Raiden B Mei. Idk if she will appear herself but the relationship is there.
I think it would be Remembrance, Order, Nihility. Remembrance - absolutely definitely there, I probably don't even need to explain why. Order - a lot of eyes in video, fit with the description of civilization run by Ena. Nihility - black sun in video. Many people try to fit Erudition or Enigmata, but I don't find their arguments convincing. Destruction may be one of three path, but I hope this won't be the case, this would be boring. Finality also fit nice, but it still needs more arguments.
I'm curious.... Remembrance is coming right? Mostly associated with Ice. And Genshin is likely to bring out 6.0 next year, which will involve the Cryo Nation. I wonder - is Hoyoverse getting ready to tie Genshin with the Honkai series late next year? It would be wild if someone like Skirk doesn't end up being a Genshin character - she ends up being a HSR character...
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Thought I had mentioned it in the video but Forgot to mention of course a Stellaron will be involved and might just be causing issues with the memory a long with a lord ravager being involved because of the stellaron, But If we get to live and play out a past memory do you think we'll meet Ena whoever that was before they became an Aeon? Which Aeons do you think are at play here? & Do you think Amphoreus will be in the past, Present Or both at the same time? Let me know your thoughts very excited for 3.0 :)
Nihility in the form of Theta and the looming phrase “rotate one’s understanding”, rememberance (obvious), and enigmata (opposition to both rememberance and nihility)
I actually think that in the 3.0 patches, we will get the nihility trailblazer (somewhere around 3.7) along with the rememberance trailblazer because of the hidden signs. Theta means both rotation and angles in mathematics. However, theta also means the number nine in Greek semantics (ironic). Thus, because patch 2.7 is referring to “And on the eighth day”, sometime after the amphoreus arc, we will go back to penacony to witness the ninth day (the day of nihility) where all of penacony becomes swallowed by IX’s shadow just like Acheron’s home planet. That is most likely when we will get the nihility trailblazer path while Acheron will summon the trailblazer back to Amphoreus and discuss some info about Theta and Nihility and how to save Penacony’s ninth and final day.
I believe it has to do with Time Manipulation
I'd like to add my own theory, something I haven't seen a single person talk about. It'll be a huge wall of text, so be ready -
In the description for Amphoreus's trailer, they name every character introduced in the list shown at the end. In the exact order that they're shown. _But_ two of the names are blurred, despite there being _four_ characters that are shadows. Those two being the red one holding up what looks like a mask onto her face, and the other yellow-themed one with a mask and holding a flame. Why only two...? Why not blurr all four? And why the two that seem to _have masks_ ?
Now, it just so happens that during the Cosmodyssey event back in version 2.1, there's an event called "Sparkle" where Sparkle "proclaims herself to be the divine mecha, in charge of screenwriting in ancient times at Amphoreus", which is the first ever mention that we get of Amphoreus, way before Black Swan's reveal. So, we know at least Sparkle, and the Masked Fools, know of Amphoreus, and most likely have been to it. "Amphoreus" also just so happens to be a reference to "Amphitheatre", and where was theatre created? You guessed it, Ancient Greece. With those stone, circular structures.
Let's talk about Sampo. In many lore drops by hoyo, it's said that Sampo often disguises himself to cause mischief, once as an old woman, and as a guard, and he passes whatever he disguises as easily. We know he's a Masked Fool that isn't truly from Belobog. Also, when you use the "Rating Gun" curio in Herta Space Station on Sampo, he gets the "invalid" rating, just like all of the other emanators.
Also, we know that Sampo gave Seele her scythe. Scythe that feels very out of place in Belobog with the teleport shenanigans, looks extremely sci-fi and powerful for a place cut out from the outside like Belobog. Where did he get it? Where'd he get that scythe? Well, Seele's ultimate, "disappear among the sea of butterflies, illusions of the past!" gives us a clue. In chinese it translates directly to "Disappear along with the butterflies, illusions of the past". In Japanese culture, butterflies often represent the wandering souls of the deceased. So basically, as she kills her target, she turns them into a "butterfly", the "illusions of the past" being the remains of the souls, hence why they "disappear with the butterflies". Scythe also has a bit of a "grim reaper" vibe.
Now, in Amphoreus, we're introduced to Castorice. Her whole design is based on a butterfly, her butterflies look _very_ similar to Seele's ones, even her attire does, and she's the "Daughter of River Styx", someone that can give _rest to soul_ with a simple touch, fitting to perfection with the whole "butterflies as the souls of the deceased" thing. I'm just saying, if Sampo comes from Amphoreus, then Seele's Scythe could definitely come from Castorice, which would make a _ton_ of sense.
Next, Sampo's blue hair is dyed. If you look at the back of his hair, at the bottom, his real, natural hair color is white. White just like Kalpas, the character that the yellow background, unnamed masked guy is based on. On top of having _very_ similar hairstyles as Kalpas in his E6 eidolon where Sampo has his "natural" hairstyle.
If Sparkle and Sampo _don't_ come from Amphoreus, the land of theatre, then where else would they come from...? Nowhere else makes as much sense as Amphoreus for them. Two Masked Fools, two masked characters, two "actors" that always make references to "the stage", theatre stuff, everything being a "play" to entertain the Tavern. And, two unnamed characters in the trailer that have masks that they refuse to name, as if it'd spoil us. How odd.
So yeah I'm calling it, the red character is Sparkle but in her original, Chrysos Heir attire, and the yellow one with the flame and the sick mask is Sampo's revealed masked form.
Since the TB's path is Remembrance and using a feather as weapon, my take is that TB's role is to write / rewrite the whole history and fate of Amphoreus. It's possible that this is consequence of a whole world being transformed to a memetic entity, the power of memory will play an important part in the main quest and up to an witness to record it all.
Another interesing to note that in the trailer the number 3 is being contantly repeated.
3 faced-Messanger.
3 Paths in war.
3 Titans.
Even there's 12th Flamecore Bearers and Cerysa is the 13th.
So my take the narrative style of Amphoreus's quest will be a Hero's Journey. The beginning, the motivation, the quest, the lowest point, the development and finally the resolution.
Lol So Fenghuang Down is OP once again.
Gaben’s nightmare
I'm still convinced that if Amphoreus has aspects of the past existing in the present and future at the same time (like a world whose entire timeline moves forward with it/a sort-of endless resurrection cycle) then Herta's interest will lie at figuring out ways to harness the ability to 'weave time' in a similar way to how Polka Kakamond has managed to do it so that she can be given a proper audience to meet Polka face to face, ESPECIALLY after the Sim U expansion we just got
Yeah especially with the recent polka kakamond arc I think so as well and with the connecting between elysian realm.and the 13 flame chasers, Having some past and present mixture could be a very interesting story
Can u imagine a polka kakamond boss fight cus she's trying to stop herta from achieving it...
@@harliwatches Still possible, since Herta would be playable and Gacha-able in 3.0.
@@R4GNAR0G RIGHTTT IM SO INVESTED IN THE BEEF NOWWEW
I find it incredible that Nanook was not mentioned in this video considering the golden blood mentioned in the trailer.
Kinda funny considering how on your face this trailer is that the Destruction is back at play after disappearing for Penacony
THIS IS SO TRUE.
correct, the 3 aeons could be Remembrance, Destruction and Erudition
Yeah, I was thinking that too. The new region doesn’t seem to have IX’s signature style written over it, that is, it would have been erased by a black hole like Izumo.
I also thought of that when the trailer itself came out, but then recalled Greek mythology gods have golden blood, so it could just be the native gods.
What if the 3 Aeons are from Destruction, Finality and Remembrance?
- I mean the last Symbol we saw in the Trailer was an infinity one and it's said Finality isn't the end but the begin of something new
Story: collapse of the civilization [Destruction] -> recording [Remembrance] -> restart [Finality] -> Destruction -> ... etc.
And we literally just see/relive the story of the old 12/13 Hero's that fighted an Emanator of Destruction and lost at the end until we can rewrite Story thanks to expi Elysia (path Finality?) and safe the world to get a good romantic end instead.
(that somehow change the history because we literally traveled back in time.)
Ya that could also make a lot of sense or somewhere in the middle maybe I think a lord ravager and a stellaron will be involved forsure I just wonder if that memory, flame chasers and fight with a lord ravager might be happening in another realm but I done if nanook would be one of the 3 aeons because it isn't that old of an aeon, like the lord ravagers and inc will stick their nose everywhere we go but I don't think destruction is on of the 3 aeons black swan refers to but I could be wrong
This theory sound so similar to Hi3 part 2’s plot 😂
I think one of them has nickname “The Chess Player”, and we see an unknown hand playing chess.
@@LukeWallace-ow4zjyeah leylah also has a symbol of ena the order
Wouldn't that just be them being Sin Thirsters then. Constantly living meaningless lives thinking they are in control.
Oh fuck dont tell me we are AGAIN only meeting the 13 flame chasers through memories... It would be horrible
Maybe lol
@@TheGamerChronicles999 it would be so bad. Just recycling to same story
@@klis5552 have fun enjoying lazy ass writing
@@emincash6931 wasn't all Star Rail writing up to date lazy? All space comedy thing is Hitchhiker's guide to galaxy, worldbuilding is basically Warhammer 40k with more gods, and three arcs as follows: Orphanage in Siberia, Seven Swords, Project Stigmata/Human Instrumentality, if we are talking about more "original" one.
I would hate it. They better not do it.
If there’s a connection to the Order here, that’s going to work great with the theory that Sunday will be joining the Astral Express. He’ll get to see the aftermath of a world controlled by Order, and how it spiraled and fell to ruin. A major shakeup to his faith that would push him to further accept the Trailblaze.
Sunday going with us to that place to see what could become of Penacony if he succeeded makes a lot of sense
That's my thoughts as well can see what following that aeons leads too
I feel like our trailblaze journey will be about recording the correct history of Amphoreus. I just assumed that the notebook and pen has in their splash art is would relate so much.
The Chrysos Heirs are the HSR's version of the 13 Flamechasers but I can't shake the feeling that each of them are also referenced to some Greek Gods or demi gods, like for example Mydei is how I picture Ares would look like in an anime, Anaxa and Aglaea's design are so reminiscent of Hades and Aphrodite's deisgn in the anime Records of Ragnarok and Castorice kinda reminds me of Nyx
Well you are not too far of there. Anaxagoras is a reference to a renowned Greek mathematician, Aglaea is named after a minor Goddess of beauty usually a handmaiden of Aphrodite and Mydeimos is I believe a reference to the God of terror and madness on the battlefield brother of Phobos (fear) and son of Ares and Aphrodite. I don't know about the rest but I think I see a pattern that am pretty sure I like.
Aglaea just reminds me of Apollo
3 faced messenger who travels, red headed girl= Hermes
This actually explains a lot to me since I learned about the existence of Anaxa (shortened from Anaxagoras)! HE MIGHT BE THE KEY THAT CONNECTED ALL THE DOTS HERE.
Anaxagoras was the first Pre-Socratic philosopher to introduce the concept of Nous (though his definition of Nous might be somewhere between what Ena did to the universe-ordering and gathering all the small particles into something more logical). Perhaps it’s implied that, before Nous ascended into aeonhood, Ena's entire existence wasn't the total answer to the chaotic universe! So, the birth of Nous may came after the memories of Amphoreus had faded. Anaxagoras believed that there was more existence than just order (divine gods, etc., like the Titans), which explains why his character is introduced as Anaxa, the foolish one who disrespects the god (Ena) and seeks Nous! Later, the knowledge and logic themselves were gathered by Nous.
Anaxa may have been the one who gave Nous the ideal of its own existence. Additionally, it’s stated by Herta that Fuli knew all the memories of everything but was still after Nous (which can be implied that Nous probably knew all the memories of the past too in order to solve all the present questions in the universe).
BONUS: Anaxagoras was one of the first person to discover the truth behind those fake suns (the truth of god)in Amphoreus, since Anaxagoras was the first to point out that the moon is just a rock, and the sun is just a fire rock, which could insulted religious people who believed in Helios/Selene(sun moom gods during titans era )😭.
(English is not my first language, so I may not have explained everything clearly, but I hope anyone can understand what I was trying to say. Please continue my delusion!)
haven't even started and I already know you cooked again
One intresting detail is that in the trailer in one moment you can see a shadowed hand likely playing chess and there is a unamed Lord Ravanger called Chess player in one of xianzhou texts
My personal prediction for Amphoreus is
Order (the eye looks a lot like the Order symbol)
Destruction (Golden blood, Nanook’s calling card)
Remembrance (The first two characters of that new version are literally Remembrance, so it’d be kinda weird if it wasn’t involved beyond being the way there)
The timelines don’t really match up but maybe it’s some sort of time dilation thing because you can get there only through the garden of recollection?? But it’s just a theory-
Actually Ena itself is an Giant Eye so even more on the head haha
Wait, doesn Black Swan suggest that we go to a planet that's under three Paths? (At least in the dream), maybe this is it.
The finality could have severely affected amphoreus which lets these different timelines exist in one, which makes sense to me especially since finality is starting to get more involvement in the game
Ena been defeated, so nah they wont use her in main plot no mere
There is an equation in DU called City Restorer that literally tells us a story about recreating an already destroyed world from memories, I'm 99% sure that it's the same with Amphoreus. We probably wouldn't even have been able to go there if we didn't get to Penacony first. They're totally connected to each other
I think it'll be the Remembrance, Order, and Destruction. I can't help but think of Nanook when they brought up gold blood
I thought of nanook and I think a stellaron will play a part a long with a lord ravager but I think nanook isn't part of its history cause nanook isn't that old of an aeons but I could be wrong
It also could have The Finality and The Erudition. The Finality because of time motifs and The Erudition because of Herta's involvement
@@TheGamerChronicles999hes still pretty old considering his rise to aeonhood was during/just after the swarm disaster
@@TheGamerChronicles999that doesn't negate anything tbh, Nanook isn't old to other aeons but they are indeed ancient, they ascended a little after the Swarm Disaster which is also where Ena's reign came to an end, it's kinda believed everything went wrong after Ena left due to how they're associated with eyes and the machines Amphoreus had also had those same eyes, plus the whole destruction thing obviously
i don’t think they’d make another planet follow order tho. i think finality would be one of them tho
I think of what you said and I think Amphoreus is not just a memory but actually a time loop caused by Elysia expy when their world almost collapse and making it a time loop of destruction and reversing the time until The Trailblazers become a alien piece which ultimately help Amphoreus breaks from the time loop
YO not even finished yet but imagine this chapter takes place in the past memory most aeons would not even beeen ascended or born yet and and we meet ena the person before they were an aeon? That would be insane! So this whole story could be in hsr versionnof the elysian realm which is a giant memory? Sorry have t finished just wanted to comment before I lose my train pf thought but this new chapter might be peak!
Personality I think the story is a loop memory starting from the good things to the bad, and the Chrysos heirs are reliving they're stories over and over again like in simulations and the Trailbazlers will find away to break the characters out of their simulations and eventually they will branch off... Im coping they are alive and we dont get to meet them through memories.
Remembrance and Destruction are def two of three
@@devilofgreed760 You think Destruction is one of the 3 aeons? I think lord ravager forsure cause of the stellaron but I honestly didnt think it would be destruction but perhaps will be interesting to find out!
@@TheGamerChronicles999the golden blood is strong related to Nanook that bleeding golden blood
The Titans goin mad is hard to guess which one, the unlimited black spawn from Acheron world or the belobog Stellaron infection, its even possible that 13 "Flamechaser" is the only thing that holding back Lord Ravager from bring total destruction in Amphoreus ( as if They try to, after the planet lost Ena's Blessing )
Nihility and Finality Shares same last page of purpose/ending yet different act. I think Finality is weaker than Remembrance Authority, but Nihility will never be able goes with Remembrance that "remember everything"
So the most possibly involved in Amphoreus is Nanook, IX, Fuli
Consider Ena not counted as the World lost her bless / her power cant reach there anymore.
As i see it ena was definitely the amphoreus' aeon, there are a lot of reference (one of them being the eye), the heretical black tide may be a lot of things, for example the influence of the stellaron, but i personally think it' the swarm, we know that ena asked qlipoth for help during the swarm distaster to kill tayzzyronth. The "heirs" are not the titans' heirs, but they have golden blood in them (linked to nanook?). As for the final villain he may be a lord ravager since we can clearly see a chessboaard and we know one of nanook's emanators like to play chess. From what the trailer said not all the titans are dead and we most likely have to kill them. Lastly a nameless king is mentioned and kevin's expy shows up, i think that he most likely is not the nameless king, but one between sunday or the mc will be (of course iìm not a 100% sure sunday will come with us, but it would make sense since he was also linked to the order)
In my opinion, the true main themes of 3.0-3.7/8 are decay and loss especially with the supposed three paths involved: The Remembrance, The nihility, and The Erudition. This is because the main symbol that I presume will be discussed during 3.2-3.3 and 3.6-3.7 is Theta aka the Greek symbol representing a plethora of concepts. In mathematics, it most commonly represents rotation and angles and is a prime staple of trigonometric functions (transcendental functions). Transcendental functions signify the role of transcendance which is above and beyond ascension into Aeonhood. With rotation, you can rotate your understanding which aligns with Nous because the Geniuses’ cognition can be augmented through rotation and further multiplication of imaginary numbers. This can mean that the Geniuses’ as emanations of Nous can funnel their own imaginary energy back into Nous making Nous more powerful. My hypothesis is that emanators serve as an investment for Aeons and by investing THEIR imaginary energy into THEIR emanators, THEY hope that THEIR emanators can share back new imaginary energy into THEM.
Regarding Nihility, signs suggest that this would play a huge roll in connecting amphoreus with penacony. I presume that a future trailblazer continuance mission sometime in patch 3- will consist of the ninth day of Penacony involving the mission where the trailblazer will unlock the nihility path while witnessing the worlds of penacony and amohoreus consumed by IX’s shadow. With continuous echoes of Theta, the trailblazer’s perception of the world will be completely rotated and forever changed in a new direction.
Ooo that nihility one would be sick. Especially since hoyo is doing a tb mission for 2.7. Meaning they are willing to cook outside the main arc.
Relating it back to Nihility could also involve Device IX, which further connects DR.Primitive, The Galaxy Rangers and Acheron again
Sunday will be one of the express crew
I fundamentally agree with you but i do think that we won't be in another dream/ memory but in a planet that is stuck in a time loop of it's destruction yet it seemes the new characters are the key to break that chain along us if course.
There's a lot of imagery related to Nanook, one of my theories is that it might be related to the story of how Nanook became an Aeon, with the stories of THEIR planet suffering a disaster
Oh fuck no. Wait they really use the words elysian realm and flame chasers in HSR, thats going to make googling ANYTHING for HI3 even more difficult then it already was😭
For those that don't know, googling ANYTHING for HI3 has become extremely hard since HSR's release no matter wat keywords you use
at least i’m still able to google shit about durandal and kiana 😃
I hope to god when they release fu hua's expy (which canonically exists) atleast her last name is changed... and pls for the love of God kiana change her name please or just do the same as with acheron
Anyone realize at 3:00 in the trailer, the narrator mentioned "You will see outlanders...." and there's the shadows of a train and a person(could be one of the silhouettes). It could indicates that another Trailblazer came to Amphoreus but failed to help saving it 🤔
i still feel welt is doctor of chaos :D
nihility path, spoke already with IX, and showed him that here is sense to safe a world, welt was always protector
1:07 this is even more true now that we know that Penacony's main story writer is also writing Amphoreus' story. God I'm actually so stoked for this update.
We got a new path called rememberance. For it to be called that that’s a huge indicator that means this place only exist in memories. So it would make sense that it’s not real. But famously made through the memories of humanity. What we think what happened. I’m just curious how does summons come into play.
There is a chance that there are actually 4 aeons at play and not just 3.
In Peanacony, they were following the harmony until the order came back, flurished and corrupted its influence, leading us to the nihility with the slow detoritiation since harmony and nihility seems to be twins path...
As we look at the greek society, knowledge should be considered very important and thus, erudition too - looking at the trailer, we can see somehow we really look like Dr. Ratio with his students. The Dr. we know is in pursuit of knowledge to cure ignorance, that pursuit justifies the hunt but also, the erudition path..
If the greek society from which they were inspired was following the path of erudition as i ponder, and the order flurished then corrupted its influence leading is to the enigmata as the twin sister path of the erudition.. so everything we would know could have been tempered with, as well as what the memokeepers might have recollected.
Therefore, we would have the order, the souvenir, erudition and enigmata.. all four at play.. the enigmata dissimulating itself while having corrupted everything we might have learned.
Herta being interested in Amphoreus might be explained by the fact that if there is a way to find the truth of what really happened, there is a way to navigate the unknowable domain and more, in the pursuit of all knowledge.. reversing the effects of enigmata.
lol, here what I'm thinking about right now. Feel free to enlighten me on my misunderstandings.
As a HI3rd player, I’m an absolutely certain that Amphoreus is long gone and that we will just play in its memory. It would crazier if it is destined to be destroyed by some kind of ‘corruption’ hint hint, and that we try to fight it. And that everything builds to the idea of a samsara of sorts, and that death is more merciful than these eternal loops. But really I’m just waiting for the heads to roll, HSR isn’t afraid of character deaths (well, Tingyun stayed dead for all of what, 13, 14 patches.) and neither was Honkai Impact 3rd. I better see a reenactment and visualization of Eden’s death because my god.
Regardless, Elysia and Kevin are the two that everyone will need to keep their eyes on going forward. I doubt Elysia will just remain in her surprisingly modern outfit, and I doubt that Kevin is fully human, at least, not anymore. The whole point of ER (Elysian Realm) was that they were dead 50,000 years ago, their AI recreations knew that, and Mei struggles with the meaningfulness of everything. Yet she comes to terms with its ending, and carries their legacy and her memories of them into the future. Would like to see that again.
Side note: why do you keep pronouncing it flame ch-A-ser instead of Flamechaser 😭
Well, if Amphoreus really is a memory built world like Elysian Realm was, than Myphus the Enigmata is the corruption you're looking for. It is the only path, that can influence dreams without help (thanks to Myphus' manifestation in memory space) exactly "corrupting" it with false information, so the memetical entities like memokeepers die from it or transform into memes.
Actually, Myphus (along with Ena and Fuli) is one of that main paths for Amphoreus
I think the another game need to be shut down with fanatic theory, amphoreus will gonna be show off in 3 path of aeons
@@aosoranoshitahe …say what?
I don’t want all these 13 characters to just be memories. We went through this with the Elysian Realm in HI3 part 1 and the 7 shus in HI3 part 2 this year. It’s definitely not crazy to think it will be the case though. Also, if finality is not one of the 3 paths I will be shocked. The two characters in HI3 the most linked to finality are Kevin and Kiana, and Kevin is here. You could replace it with Nihility like they did for Acheron though but I am expecting they use finality instead, especially if they are doomed to fail and this is a memory. Remembrance is certainly another path though as there is no way it isn’t.
I think its possible but it would be weird for Black swan to talk about as a planet if its just a memory, and like other people mentioned my forst thought about the golden blood scnee wasnt the nihility, it was nanook, there is even a scene of someone moving a chess piece and we know there is a lord ravager that operates as if they were playing chess
When i see the eyes on the arms of that being, i think of Yaoshi, so that was who I initially expected to be one of the 3, but it makes more sense to be Ena here
I’m calling the “death and gloom” is finality, not nihility.
After PF’s release, we got mentions of history fics, and then we got Gallagher, Dormancy, Misha, etc in 3.0. beings born from memoria and thus rememberance, but don’t technically exist.
Now, after Penacony has ended, we were told that the Stellaron hunters follow the path of Finality, a confirmation of that theory. Along with a Herald of finality in the dreamflux reef, bringing… ding! A new endgame mode, just like PF.
Elysium with Flamechasers was a memory as well. So it makes sense.
Hi3rd lore aside, Amporheus being referenced to Elysium is not far fetched because in Greek myth, Elysium is a paradise for dead heroes, goverened by Hades
Idk why but every time I watch the trailer and it mentions the “darkness overcoming” it reminds me of the Calamity in part of hi3 main story
Yeah I think Finality swallowed this world up as well
@@LucielleFerus Finality in HSR seems to be totally different in Hi3rd, instead of actively doing something to cause the Finality, it lets other forces to do the deed, so no, I think not.
Not trying to break lore but I’m just suddenly thinking how will the new cast be sending us text messages and visiting the express.
Like is The Herta going to help us with all that or do they have their own type of communication devices in Amphoreus 😂
Pretty sure the most basic of communication devices would be there. It’s just a Greek inspired world not a Greek world.
Though, similar to how xianzhou has cycranes maybe amphoreous also has their own specialized way to communicate.
So… Fuli wants Amphoreus to be remembered while the Enigmata wants it to be left in the past for no one to find again. Is this where we’ll have to utilize the Remembrance Trailblazer to fight off a villain of the Enigma Aeon?
I think we are not just going to witness a memory, we are going to find a way to fix the cycle that this world should be under and has been broken(indicated by the broken infinity symbol in the end of the trailer) and by fixing it, we will find out something big about the universe(Eon ascenscion could be interesting).
It very much looks like a story about heroes, legends and history.
How heroes are viewed by their contemporaries and in history (Remembrance)
How history becomes legend (Enigmata)
And how time erodes and degrades history (Destruction/Nihility)
I think the three plan is that this planet is associated with are destruction erudition and remembrance considering always see of the teaser with this plan is just chaos and war it makes sense if the destruction has something to do with it For the erudition, I think it’s kind of interesting how herta a member of the genius Society and a eminator of the erudition is able to even see the planet plus the remembrance and the erudition are very similar paths one acquires knowledge while the other acquires memories which is basically knowledge of its own makes sense that would be able to see the planet and for the remembrance well considering that her faction knows of this planet it’s highly likely it’s associated with the remembrance as well, especially since memory is a type of eternity so you might be right abt the planet being just a giant memory, especially since the planet itself doesn’t even look physical unlike the others that we’ve seen I’m not sure if ena the order will have something to do with it, especially since we’ve already had penacony dealing with it but it’s a nice thought to have I'm not really familiar with the flame chasers at all so I have no idea how this story could go but I do find it quite interesting how Kevin in hsr has a very similar design to sunday two characters who seem to parallel each other
3 Reasons as to why i believe it's Order, Destruction And remembrance:
1. Ena's eye (And her civilizations always ending in disaster)
2. Nanook's golden blood
3. Remembrance trailblazer + A pretty obvious hint.
(Bonus, Sunday cope juice. You'll know what i mean soon enough)
3 Reasons as to why i believe it's not finality, destruction and remembrance and or even nihility:
1. This one is definitely a stretch, but the most conformation we get of the finality is a infinity circle at the near ends of the trailer.
2. Lore accurate nihility is... Uhm.... Different.. From other Aeons (It doesn't even know of it's own existence)
3. Another stretch, but if we are going to say that HI3 and HSR are connected, (which yes, they definitely seem to be connected) Wouldn't that make the Cocoon of finality the Aeon of finality? Keep in mind, the Cocoon is kind of... Asleep, so i barely bet that they're going to be here watching or practically fighting over Amphoreus.
Cocoon of finality is not the aeon of finality they are still active even after cocoon is sleeping
I think you are right about the Aeons. I don't think Nihility plays a role really in any storyline, at least not consciously. The many eyes in the trailer, and the puppets, as well as the civilization thriving I think is because of Ena, and then the destruction came, Nanook, and finally Remembrance since we are looking at everything afterwards.
Something about Amphoreus being "unobservable" is really interesting to me because it hints that it may be a world that is just a memory or one that is influenced by Memoria in a special way. Plus we use our eyes to observe things, and Ena being a giant eye is very interesting.
Amphi means "both sides" in Greek, and Phoreus means "carrier" or "to carry" so Amphoreus could just be a vessel essentially, and it could be dual-sided in nature, observable and unobservable perhaps? Or past and present? Or dark and light?
Not sure, but I'm certainly curious.
I believe the story for this new planet we will be going through periods of time in which the planet is ruled by different Aeons. First will be Ena, then Nanook, XI then we will meet the Remembrance Aeon who was the one who gave us the ability to see the planet throughout the eras.
i also noticed that in the trailer, there was a hand using a chess piece and placing it down, whoch also ties into an emanator of destruction too
Herta coming to Amphoreus is a great connection between one of the aeons being nous. Remembrance because of memokeepers. And sunday because he follows the path of order and because he’s going to amphoreus with us.
If I remember correctly, Acheron back in Penacony said that she killed her universe's Kevin. So does Star Rail have 2 Kevins?
HSR story is basically the story about traveling to different worlds on the Imaginary Tree, So I'm not surprised if we meet more than one character variant in the future story
One other thing im excited about Rememberance is that Black Swan might get a new form and has an Emanator like kit that Acheron has and tnat Herta might have
This feels like setting up the scene for the FSN crossover event, since heroic spirits are gonna be hosted on that event!
Say my name when a tree susurrates
Once and again telling a story lost in time
The way it starts and the way it ends
Never again making up stories in dismay
With several starts, but just one end
Ah, how I long to embrace
The future breaking out of shades from the past
Still ablaze
Save your tears for the day so far away
To irrigate the wilderness that's still asleep
In the world waiting to be lit
To spread over the riverbeds so dry and dead
Let ships that ran aground re-launch their sails
Ah, how I long to еmbrace
The future brеaking out of shades from the past
Still ablaze
Seeds bear new life when flowers dare to fade
Petals linger about awaiting one last dance
Shaking off all the dust from the past
New stories have yet to start
Sunday about to learn what happens if he succeeds. Let’s hope he actually stays with us in the express at least until this arc is over then he can go back with robin
I can't even begin to tell y'all how excited I am for the Amphoreus release. Elysian Realm was my absolute favorite arc of all time (even though it emotionally destroyed me), and seeing them all again, especially Elysia, is almost cathartic. I just hope the writers don't get any silly ideas regarding their fates
Me too ant come soon enough
Won't be skipping the story this time
I REALLY hope well get 5 star march here no really elysia looks like march(and vice versa) and also amphoreas is connected to memories with elysia having greek inspired name really gives hope we don't have much proof but i want to believe
The entire world just being a memory would be too much of a continuance of Penacony's Memory Zone stuff and it wouldn't explain how a Stellaron would play into it. Remember, every world we've visited had a Stellaron at being the root of that world's issues. What I think is happening is that a Stellaron disaster is unfolding, causing the Black Tide and possibly even summoning a branch of the Legion. Now they stand at the crossroads between 3 Paths to determine their future. Give up and dissolve into nothingness through Nihility, eternally cycle through these trials through Remembrance, or tread a new path and possibly use the Remembrance to bring themselves back into the universe proper.
The way they talk about Strife makes it sound like an aeon, and with the golden blood/conceptual similarity maybe a precursor to nanook?
False God apocalypse super boss reference? With out realized it.
The community no longer uses "expy" or exports to refer to the different characters in the hoyoverse games if I'M not wrong the term the lore heads are using is variant.
Penacony introduced the idea of two aeons with similar paths assimilating together, and I think Amphoreus may represent the assimilation of the Remembrance and Erudition. Just as Harmony and Order can be closely aligned, so too can memories and data.
Black Swan may be interested in restoring the original memory of Amphoreus while the Genius Society may be interested in using the immense power displayed by the scepters to absorb and/or manipulate the world’s memories.
I think Amphoreus is going to be the imperfect memory of Fuli's ascension. I suspect the trailblazer's mission is to see through the fiction (enigmata), and learn (erudition) the truth. Piecing together and documenting the real story behind the rise of Fuli to create an accurate memory.
I believe this to be the main reason why Black Swan came to Penacony, as this would likely be one of the most interesting memories to a memokeeper. This would explain why she approached the express crew. I vaguely remember her asking Himeko and Welt for an exchange related to the Remembrance in 2.0. Her light cone being named 'Reforged Remembrance' could be foreshadowing for all of this.
At the end maybe Sunday will ascend and become the new aeon on order to save amphoreus
I think it was actually Nanook the destruction, the black sun and golden blood is more of his thing and the description of chaos, madness, war feels more related to destruction, nihility usually has a more hopeless vibe. It would also match with the timeline where Nanook ascended sometime after Ena's fall.
Imagine Welt decides to join us again, not knowing he'll probably get ptsd
It's funny that this world looks exactly like the world that we see when Sapphire is mentioned from the Stone hearts. Is this world that sapphire is from?
what do you think about them following finality? terminus moves backwards in time, and they murmur a prophecy that WILL be fulfilled. they’re also the end of other paths and aeons, what if amphoreus followed a path that no longer exists because of terminus? i wonder if terminus told amphoreus something that goes against the path they follow, which caused the death of the aeon and the chaos in amphoreus? i think your ena theory is good, and tbh i don’t know how likely it is that they’ll include ena in another world, but i do think the third aeon can be ena or mythus tho
@coraW Yeah definitely potential for finality or destruction its just not the initial impression I get especially since I think finality will be much more endgame aeon but definitely possible
@ yeah that’s fair with elio and stuff
the golden blood is strong related to Nanook that bleeding golden blood
The Titans goin mad is hard to guess which one, the unlimited black spawn from Acheron world or the belobog Stellaron infection, its even possible that 13 "Flamechaser" is the only thing that holding back Lord Ravager from bring total destruction in Amphoreus ( as if They try to, after the planet lost Ena's Blessing )
Nihility and Finality Shares same last page of purpose/ending yet different act. I think Finality is weaker than Remembrance Authority, but Nihility will never be able goes with Remembrance that "remember everything"
So the most possibly involved in Amphoreus is Nanook, IX, Fuli
Consider Ena not counted as the World lost her bless / her power cant reach there anymore.
Ok, so in short:
Amphoreus was created/saved by/the home of Ena. After its collapse (probably due to another Aeon, such as Nihility, or a Lord Ravager) it was record by the Garden of Recollection, that's why it's accesible through only there and also why Akivilli never reached it - it was destroyed before THEY could.
The rumours about Sunday joining the Express make more sense now, if it means he'll be visiting a realm once governed by Ena and will be able to see firsthand what an Ena ruled world looks alike.
Also, I know that in the trailer there are hints to Ena, Nanook and IX and that given Herta's involvement, Nous or Mythus could also be involved, but I can't stop thinking one of the 3 paths could be The Elation. The Greeks were the creators of theater and the Drama/Comedy masks are present in Aha's design. It just fits so well... Plus, confusion and riddles are also Aha motiffs, it's just that THEIR motivation behind those are different from Mythus'.
But my own nonsensical ideas aside, focusing only on what we know from trailers and lore, my guess it's that the (current) three paths are Remembrance (of course), Enigmata and Destruction. Maaaaybe Nihility... But I think The Enigmata makes more sense.
i also thought of ena when watching this trailer, although when it comes to their gods having left them i thought more about ena getting absorbed into xipe, since swarm disaster described the planets run by ena post their disappearance as being in disarray and confusion. i suppose it depends. i think order will be present in the past of amphoreus but not necessarily be one of the three paths.
i will say that a few things you noted as looking biblical, like the art at the end, were moreso resembling renaissance style things with the large sky and people hung around it, and the renaissance style was a time of revived interest in the classics of greece and rome, with there also being a lot of religious art since europe was majority christian at the time. that is to say, those things may not necessarily be "bible" things.
the memory idea is interesting because i think parts of it are definitely gonna pan out that way, but also from a gameplay perspective amphoreus needs to be a permanent location, and having an entire cast of characters be already dead in some way is something i dont believe they'd do given hsr's track record, so i dont think its going to be as blatant as "everything is already destroyed and these people are all just memories"
If Sunday's kit was influenced by lore then it would make even more sense for Amphorias to be influenced by Ena
Omg, this makes perfect sense when you consider Hoyoverse's shared themes across their different games. You already pointed out the obvious connections between Amphoreus and Honkai Impact 3rd's Flamechasers/Elysian Realm and I wanna mention how, if your theory is true, it would basically just be Tsurumi Island from Genshin. The Ley Line disorder on the island caused a time-loop that basically lead to a near perfect preservation of memories. Amphoreus could be like that, except planet-sized. Maybe the Garden of Recollection is testing out new technology to help preserve doomed worlds? Or maybe we have to help them get rid of the memory altogether for one reason or another? Either way, I am HYPED!!!!!
The eye (like in genshin) might just represent knowledge (forbidden knowledge) hence the eye might be linked to nous and the “magic” / “knowledge” in the new region
Brilliant, absolutely Brilliant I'm literally tweaking like Mr.Reca
makes even more sense order has to deal with everything since sunday is going
Imagine if that's where Nanook was first created that's why Herta and Fulli has an interest in it.
Nanook was born from a world that got destroyed by BOTH The Swarm and one of the Emperor Rupert(s), I don't see any of these here
@@frenchrevenge6406it got attacked by swarm and Rubert but nanook was the one who Destroyed It
I think Amphoreus is a time loop and the Nameless’ mission is to break that loop. Also, your order theory maybe valid considering how Sunday joining the Astral Express is itself a hint that the next storyline will involve Order again. It is a path Sunday is familiar with.
I really hope the world isn't only a memory, I don't think my heart could handle another Mikhail and Gallagher situation.
But I think a cool thing we could see is another Lord Ravager or one of the Annihilation gang members causing more destruction on this already razed planet
Maybe that's part of its tragic history a lord ravager but I don't think it would be just a memory per say
@TheGamerChronicles999 I really wanna see the cello man from the Annihilation Gang, you know to contrast with Sunday if he is coming with us
I’ve seen other comments but maybe this is a world stuck in time situation. Maybe Ena intervened somehow or the remembrance is keeping the world in that state until it’s able to be saved. Maybe that’s why it can only be accessed by a reflected light that’s from the garden of recollection.
@@mariachi3217 So kinda like Calypso's island
@@starstudios2959 possibly. But if it does turn out that Amphorous is only in memory and our actions don’t really do anything to change its fate, that’s kinda sucky.
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YESS IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
I still cant believe we get Flame Chasers 😭😭
13 flamechasers, 13 sentinels. They have power of Gods but not Emanators?
Because 3.0 is Amphorues(Can’t remember spelling) I’m suprised Sunday wasn’t apart of that opening considering the fact that in 2.7 he abandoned the path leading to Harmony altogether and is finding himself before leaving on a journey and 3.0 is literally going to a planet that used to be so close to their gods through believe and worship and have fallen into a state of Disharmony.
This place is gonna have a bunch of remembrance member paths so it makes sense I guess
Given the way HSR and GI are developing, I wonder if GI is a memory realm...but that memory realms still have a chance to manifest into reality
I hope the story will not be too sad, my heart is still broken from penacony
I'm so convinced of this theory (at least the main part of experiencing the memory of the world) that I'm gonna be mad if it is true cause that means I got a crazy plot twist spoiled lol
The enigmata theory is really interesting, I do hope for it to be true, it would be a crazy story arc
I think that it's actually Remembrance, Enigmata, and Erudition because they all have a connecting theme of information. Remembrance is the past, Enigmata is the present, and Erudition is the prediction/the future. Erudition and Enigmata is constantly in conflict because their beliefs are extremely different in that Erudition's prediction is the opposite of Enigmata, which focuses on choice in the present.
Also, the Nihility does not care for anyone, so it's very far fetched to say that the Nihility is directly involved with the story.
The Black Tide was most likely created by Genius Society 27 (Robert, who's now dead), which ties Nous to the story.
Ngl I agree with most points and I’ve predicted half of the things a few months ago ,but I think the third path is actually finality instead of nihility due to many reasons:
- finality seems to be the foul to trailblaze
-Elio seems to have a lot of eye and sun motives and he’s very likely the Emanator of finality (elio is also italianisied name of Helios the god of the sun in Greek mythology 😇😇)
I think the world is a memory too but one that repeats itself over and over like a timeloop. And with ENA also low-key possibly playing a role it prob means Sunday will be very important for the next…
Tbh I think that either an aeon ascended on amphoreus or an emantor … like the emantor of finality who’s ascension caused a timeloop… considering how amphoreus looks like a unlimited sigh which too could imply a timeloop (-> finality)
I really really doubt its ena the order since we just got it. But the black tide is indeed nihility or destruction and the ones left remembrance and enigmata (or erudition).
the eye is the herrscher of corruption reference
The infinity sign is what the planet is gonna look like when we travel to it on the express it’s gonna looks like a giant rainbow infinity symbol. It’s stunning and I LOVE THE GREEK GODS. This isn’t what I was expecting at all. I also think sapphire is gonna be remembrance
If we are taking the Hi3 rout I think this might have something to do with finality especialy given the Kevin expy and his whole Hi3 plot.
We knew that this was going to happen, the HSR Flame Chasers variances! I just need Kalpas's (my biological son) to be happy and BFFLs with the Nameless!
And to make it hurt more, it's just going to be a memory/dream bubble type of thing. Think about it- this is the funniest, light-hearted, hopefully patch that stabs us in the chest at the end
If this planet is just a memory from the past then it's possible that Ena is still exist in this planet.
I also thin nihility makes sense cause like we seen with archon with the deeamscape and black swan in the trailer nihility seems to pay no mind to rememberance so nihility finding this memory world would make sense
as a person that likes erudetion and mythos IM SO EXITED
dang ur videos are like spoilers at this point but I'll bite
I don't think destruction is one of the three paths that govern Amphoreus. Just like in other places we've been, there is most likely just a stellaron corruption or maybe a lord ravager
involved, not Nanook Themselves
And also not Ena, Yes Ena was a pivotal figure that helped Amphoreus reach the golden era. Then the dark ages come, i think this is because Ena was absorbed by Xipe and because of that the Titans gone uncontrolled
Imo, the three paths are: Remembrance, Finality/Nihility (idk), and Erudition
My argument for why Erudition? Yes the answer is mindblowing i know, because Herta. But I'll argue further, Herta's very much intrigued by Amphoreus. Being an emanator of erudition, she must be well versed in any depths of knowledge especially Fate. Nous' calculations are Fate itself (somewhat). In the trailer Herta said "will your answer be any different? Amphoreus" it's like Herta is wondering if Amphoreus can change it's own destiny
Fate theme is heavy in the 3.x storyline. Fate is also Finality's main subject, but we didn't have too much information rn to extrapolate further other than Elio's scripts. Herta's involvement is driven by her curiosity of finding ways to gain new knowledge that maybe can make Nous active again (Nous is currently inactive because of unknown reasons). Why not Enigmata? All of the followers of Erudition don't give a single s*** about Enigmata, just like Dr. Ratio doesn't see stupid people a human
And in 2.6, the new SU expansion: Unknowable Domains featured Polka Kakamond, the Genius Society member that (seemingly) defied Nous' calculations, defying fate itself (allegedly), just like what Amphoreus is trying to do
And also Fate collab, lol
I agree I think nanook wasn't around yet and something to do with a stellaron so prob a lord ravager but ya Ena would be part of its past not one of the 3 aeons involved currently
O, wait , remember what say that Remembers can see this planet tho mirrors, you know start right, there suns that already die light years away , we see there demise already.
Maybe is like Penacony were we enter a dream realm , a Elysia dream realm of the place ....
But again, it could be just a planet trap in a pocket bubbler and the set new toys be alive and not dead and revive as a memory ...is a 50/50
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Actually with nihility, guess who's a confirmed nihility emanator? Acheron or Raiden B Mei. Idk if she will appear herself but the relationship is there.
welt is enough if in the end we will see he is a doctor of chaos so something like emenator but a good guy.
I think it would be Remembrance, Order, Nihility.
Remembrance - absolutely definitely there, I probably don't even need to explain why.
Order - a lot of eyes in video, fit with the description of civilization run by Ena.
Nihility - black sun in video.
Many people try to fit Erudition or Enigmata, but I don't find their arguments convincing.
Destruction may be one of three path, but I hope this won't be the case, this would be boring.
Finality also fit nice, but it still needs more arguments.
I'm curious.... Remembrance is coming right? Mostly associated with Ice. And Genshin is likely to bring out 6.0 next year, which will involve the Cryo Nation. I wonder - is Hoyoverse getting ready to tie Genshin with the Honkai series late next year? It would be wild if someone like Skirk doesn't end up being a Genshin character - she ends up being a HSR character...