I’ve really enjoying watching all the videos on this channel. It helps recap for those who are new and provides great food for thought. And you have even been right sometimes! As someone who plays this game for the fantastic themes and lore, I’m so glad you’re covering everything. Hyped for Amphoreus!! #Peak2.0
i never noticed that until the side by side in the video and i'm fucking losing my mind esp after rewatching the 3.0 stream and it being mentioned she'd have a revelation of some kind
@identipathy YEAH i don't remember when exactly but i remember one dude mentioning not seeing her, and someone else saying that she was still important to the story, and that she'd come to some realization after getting off the train
here's a theory: Phainon has the Stellaron and he is the actual reason why Amphoreus is in a loop. Without spoiling much of HI3rd, Kevin, the character that Mihoyo based Phainon from, did similar things MORE THAN ONCE. Kevin was a Hero turned "Villain" as he saw the best way to save humanity is to strip them of their humanity, (well kinda). Welt has said that people who look like other people (in the context of Luocha and Otto) often share similar fates and we see this happening in the game. Bronya relationship with Cocolia and Seele and her responsibilty as the new leader of belobog mirrors that of her HI3rd's counterpart, Acheron's backstory is almost 1 to 1 to the story of HI3rd. So i think the reveal that Phainon put Amphoreus in a loop in order for preserve the world by looping the world before it's destruction is not a farfetched idea. This will also be a good reason as to why Fuli, Mythus and Nous be intersted in the world's fate if the theory is true. Fuli probably saw Amorpheus as an incomplete memory, Nous saw Phainon's action as delaying the inevitable but also as a case study, and Mythus saw the state of loop to see if Amorpheus can change it's fate.
also, let's remember that March 7th before we leave the express said that the first person we always have found in among the planets it's the most "important" or has an important role behind the courtains (In Belobog Sampo, In Xianzhou Tingyun, In penacony Misha) and now Phainon is the first Chrysos Heirs we have met at amphoreous edit: spelling error
Another thing to add onto Amphoreus being an infinity, specifically, from how we see it, it's a mobius strip! A one sides/faced object or shape. Its one side, never ending, with no beginning face or ending edge. Also contributing to the theory that amphoreus is trapped in a loop of continuous linear path in time towards its own death.
16:00 this reminds me of Svarog back in the Belobog quest. He said through his calculations, he did not see a way to win the battle. But what he was lacking was new variables. This could refer to Nous, because he also doesn't have new variables which is the express crew.
It’s so wild to me how great you are at capturing my attention to watch a long form lore video about a game I don’t even play 😂 your writing is truly impeccable. So YES TO MORE VIDEOS!
@@AndreinaGerman tbf it still there, you can read it and the game loves to make a reference to it (literally every new world after Herta's Space Station has at least one). But the other are actual mysteries only to be revealed as the story goes on. Even Dan Heng still has a lot of gaps in his backstory that we don't really know much and no amount of research can answer it unless mihoyo release a new story for them. I'm not saying "you must play HI3rd" but he is the least mysterious out of every crew, even Pom Pom and Himeko are more mysterious than him.
A lot of very solid arguments. I kind of hope that this will be linked to March because it will give the Astral Express more reasons to be involved in this world story, other than just carburant and trailblazing. Thanks for the video as always, very good content!
@@loleaupoki rn I think we are going to learn about the astral express crew one by one with each new planet while building up the hype for war among aeons
@@D0NTHEMAN nah we'll likely start with eliminating emanators of destruction, in the end of 2.6 Feixiao says she will hunt the Legion ( followers of destruction) and we all know that Xianzhou story hasn't finished yet because we haven't gotten a path from there yet :b
another reason why the chrysos heirs keep failing is there could be an external factor already which enforces Nous' prediction to come true. and that could also be the reason why Herta is so intrigued by this world, because she's been wanting to meet that Enforcer.
@@picklepie5127 hmm I don't think something like Elio's script needs an enforcer because in finality's pov, the future had already happened. I was referring to Polka haha
The March theory is very cool and sad at the same time Like I love March and her lore reveal would be dope But showing us Elysia and then taking her away from us will feel painful
So, I looked at the drip marketing as well, those little messages next to the Titan’s symbols took me a while to figure out, but these are them! Aglaea - Thank you for your hard work all these while. Mydei - Mydeimos become king. Tribbie - From now on no more goodbyes.
If we successfully save amphoreus, the planet might fade away if it's really just a memory- and March will too since she's part of that memory (I might be crazy saying this but I expect a bittersweet ending)
that's a reach. They've pointed out March is meant to always journey and grow along with the trailblazer. That's like suggesting Paimon might die pre Sumeru
She won't die. She's the poster girl of HSR. March is physically alive so it could be more like she is the sole survivor of Amphoreus and that's why she is being stopped to access her past memories.
@mythril30 actually, March AND one of the blackend silhouettes are alive, and they are rumored to be martial Hua for the Xianzou, which is what happens in Hi3. Hua survives being apart of the flame chasers and goes on to do other things, Martial Hua is apart of this group of flamechasers and goes on to be the martial! So really it's a duo survivor type of thing.
@@TroubledGoth-xx I won't believe it until it's told in-game. Even tho Hi3 and HSR are connected and could have parallels, the things you said still are not fact until proven. I can't imagine how they'd connect M. Hua in Amphoreus (pls. not another Xianzhou story injected in between). Personally, I'd hate it if the story is exactly how the Hi3 lore went. Some parallels would be welcome but same plot is just lazy writing.
@mythril30 I don't remember what TikTok it was but there was a story on how marshal Hua became marshal Hua through a book or something I don't remember, and the book was almost identical to hi3's story and the book talks about Marshal Hua's life before being marshal Hua which was on a planet where 12 heroes fought, idk which TikTok post I saw but the book is ingame I just need to remember the name
Rearranging the order to fit the description and keeping the story the same is something I would've never thought about! I already mostly knew about everything mentioned in this video except this part explaining the reason for this theory! 14:34
I just wanted to drop by and say that I'm SO glad that your analysis matches up with my gut reactions about Amphoreus. I was worried that I might've cooked a little too hard when I first thought of Amphoreus as a living memory back when the trailers started coming out, but seeing someone else with basically the same take is a massive reassurance. I can't wait to see if we get proven right! Also phenomenal work with the March stuff, I'm totally convinced and super excited to see what they do with her.
I like your arguments for the enigmata, i still think the order is possible as one of the other paths, the golden age makes me think of the worlds under Ena's control and the eye imagery ofc. I really like that you are integrating the du equations into your theories, i would have never made that connection with march and the preservation/remembrance equation, I enjoyed this a lot
I love the March theory except for the chess piece part, which i think is actually connected to one of the Lord Ravagers (forgot their name) who loves to play chess and bring destruction to planets. But everything else kind of lines up
Super cool video! Thanks for writing this script and editing it, even if it took a while. Im glad this was my introduction to your channel! I love that theory about march.
Im assuming this is true, and the reason we get a quill/pen is to "rewrite" the story of ampherous as a planet, and break them free from the repetition.
i know this theory is centered around hsr (and by extension hi3) but this also reminds me of how teyvat in genshin is. residents of the world not being allowed to know life beyond their world… not being able to leave… false sky… i really hope we can get some more lore / connections with that too! as a lover of both games im practically vibrating at the thought
At 10:19 I have a slight correction. Mythus's emanators aren't the only ones who are History Fictionologists. Gallagher, who isn't an emanator as far as we know, also follows the Enigmata, but we know he isn't one of the Riddlers, so he must be a History Fictionologist himself (also because his job was literally making Penacony's history more confusing if we take Mikhail's words as true). There is a possibility History Fictionologists could be in Amphoreus, which could explain why the heretical black tide came from beyond Amphoreus.
Eh no Gallagher the fictional character is created by a History Fictionologist, all HF are emanators of the Enigmata (Mythus). Meaning the person behind Gallagher whoever the fuck they are is an Emanator. Only an Emanator of Enigmata/Remembrance can create a fanciful dreamscape without the help of a Stellaron, infact they are the only beings aside from Fuli and Mythus capable of making dreamscapes, Gallagher even said it himself, he or the person behind him created Dreamflux reef which is not a creation of the Family but by the HF behind Gallagher. So that automatically translates to the HF of Galla being an Emanator because they were able to make Dreamflux Reef. HF are also known to be able to turn fictional/memetic or what not entities real. Thats how Gallagher well more accurately the real Gallagher was able to allow Dr. Blues (the birb) to exist both in reality and the dreamscape. Gallagher himself the virtual character is only a pathstrider the real Gallagher is an Emanator. Now to think about it HF are pretty much Op to be able to turn there imagination into reality and thats a power no normal pathstrider of Enigmata would posses. These is why the databank suspects they are all Emanators due to how powerful and mind bending there supposed powers are. A Riddler is more likely to be a normal pathstrider of Enigmata.
16:49 after playing the 3.0 tb quest i gotta say you might be onto something here Spoiler alert for at the end of 3.0 tb quest . . . . . . The fact that we saw march got re-encased in ice again as the astral train got closer into amphoreus kind of a nod of how the world itself is kinda in a loop of destroying and rebuilding itself
This was a great video ! I cannot wait to see March's involvement in the later chapters. Also even Mr. Reca seemed to pay extra attention to March in the latest photography event. Some of the dialogues in that event made me go a bit suspicious. I wonder just what role does March play in regards with the Remembrance.
you know i heard from somewhere that the stellerons inherently pervert a path in a way like in penacony where the stelleron was used to keep people in Ena's dream or on the Xiaozhou (i hope i spelled that right) to revive the ambrosial harbor so maybe the stelleron might be corrupting the memory of Amphoreus since Amphoreus is maintained by the remembrance Fuli so if this is a trend then the stelleron may be doing something with the corruption of memories Kinda like i don't the path of enigmata so that is my take on what the stelleron problem is
What an incredible,connecting,almost accurate to lore story.If this story happens in amphoreus as u explained then it will be bonkers.Thank u for making such deep analysis for us.
This is a pretty interesting theory! I have theorized before that march is indeed related to fuli the remembrance. I even a scrapped a theory where she was a memokeeper at some point. but i have never stretched farther then that since that's as far as all of the information that we currently have about her character goes. I'm a lore play, so I'm very excited for Amphoreus!
Hello, I am a Tears Of Themis player, another hoyo games right there. The new event from the game caught me off guard seriously. This is not relate to the video (or maybe?) but some quotes from the NPC and main characters are really caught me off guard. NPC: "This is one big delusional dream... This karmic cycle has been predestined. In this delusional world, people are completely insignificant. Their fate was already determined the second the story was written. The author has left, but the characters in the story are still following fate, encountering happiness and misery. There is no end to stories like this. They are scattered across every corner of the world." and several main chatacters answer: "Destined or not, the stories of mortals will continue on." "Whether it's a delusion or reality, what does the happiness, anger, sadness, love, hatred, and resentment that mortals feel have to do with the gods?" "Even though we are in a delusional dreamland, who can claim that our current feelings are not real?"
I have a theory, probably wrong but yeah: The aeons of “information” that you talk about What if you talk not about “information” but time Past-Remembrance Present-Erudition Future-Finality Fuli records “past information” as u said, and nous records information about the universe, so it’s safe to assume that they collect “present” data, and finality, we can already see from the stellaron hunters their ”script”, so yeah, a connection to the future
i need to put this in writing. the red portrait is march when she was on amphoreus, and cyrene is the current march, or the person will be remembrance march
Absolutely great analysis 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻 It does look in the trailer that we see memories of the Flamechasers there before everything went to hell so we will be able to experience them or at least see them. There is the scene before Stelle stops the time where they lie defeated but then the promo arts look at least in some of them as their older/ changed versions after they became the flamechasers. They will definitely hurt us in this installment a LOT. "Happy moments" will be scarce. And also probably that's why it will be so long
When you get black swan and she messages you, she actually talks about march, i forgot what it was but it was about her being from some form of importance
the only way i can jive with fuli being the cause of amphoreus is if there is no way to recover it, as it is only a memory of what did happen or the way it is recovered is of astronomical power and significance that cannot be trivialized i.e. direction intervention from other paths the memory cannot just be changed, the prophecy fullfilled, and that just undoes the destruction of amphoreus full stop because that speaks to me more like fuli preserved amphoreus instead of remembering it
I want to add that Hoyo decided to give out March's skin in 3.0, when the skin had debut in 1.4, which is almost 2 years ago in 2023. Hoyo also likes to sell some of their characters on specific dates, i.e. Fugue. so maybe 5 star March in patch 3.7? March 7th? also the end of amphoreus
If you think about it hard enough Remembrance is just a massive Git repository with Fuli being the guy who does git commit and git revert every now and then holy babbling
@@AndreinaGerman @D0NTHEMAN to put it simply, it's a really great tool you can use to control your stuff's versions, such as bringing back old files that you deleted, or saving the current files you have as a state (wow, where have we seen an Aeon doing this)
Amazing video. Considering everything, specially the way the game has been teasing how March should be the next one to "get stabbed and gain a new weapon" I think we're about to know the truth. The rememberance has been keeping a close eye on her.
I have a theory that maybe March could become an Emanator of Remembrance. Idk why but it feels likely since it’s theorized that we might be getting a 5* March. Really curious about this coming story!
I think the Titans in Amphoreus parallel the Aeon and March is connected to either Remembrance or Finality. Though coreflame yeah might be the stellaron cause looking Phaenon putting blood over himself and the tattoo looking thing forming and flower tattoo. Aglaea and Fugue have similar tattoos and made me thing of stigmata and how those are formed in HI3 with Herscher cores. So then the coreflames might be Hiercher core wait does that mean titans are honkai. I doubt it but that parallel makes sense and might be connected to the bigger game and Herta question of divinity.
My theory on march 7th she is a emanator of the remembrance but heres the twist her status had some niche but shes no different in Acherons case so hear me out...on this one Unlike ordinary pathstriders in the remembrance like the memokeepers and cremators these two have something in common both have the common limited ability to travel through, take and alter memories within that spectrum but heres a oddly specific trait they have is that they have memories retained and having no physical bodies and becoming memetic entities entirely dependent on memories of someone to actually have the capacity to travel in the cosmos. But this entire situation is in reverse for a Emanator for the Remembrance if assuming shes a emanator considering her deep ties to the remembrance and her obsession about taking picture s wherever she goes in that way she wont forget any of the precious memories she made along her companions and even herself my speculations are that a Emanators memories can either be used to manifest their physical bodies or Fuli has a the ability to take someones psyche and manifest them as memetic entities and then preserve thier bodies in the garden of recollection for any path strider manage to reach this title will have thier bodies given back them but their memories will exchange for the ample of power that fuli give them considering the path itself is highly associated with memories and all that so yeah that my theory for march 7th
Very nice theory! Also if March ever dies for real in the story prematurely I (and i mean my trailblazer) WILL go the Otto Apocalypse route, we managed to dodge that bullet with Firefly in Penacony at least lol
@@NewMe9013 if i dont remember wrong the plot goed something like the main character is a "clone" ment to hold a soul and save the land of their race but it was defective and was created with personality and conscience and cast down to the lower land but in the end he was the solution all along
11:22 Ocean's Abyss --> sounds like Black Swan's Ult phrase "Beneath the waters lies an endless abyss" plus Black swan lost her physical form right? If the March 7th theory postulated here is correct, then maybe Black Swan is another attempt from chrysos heirs to get help from the outside universe?
13:05 I'm glad Black Swan was brought up. I don't know how many of you guys remember this, but in 2.0 Black Swan made a deal with Welt and Himeko related to the Remembrance. We never got to learn what that deal was. I get the feeling she offered to assist the express in Penacony in exchange for the next destination to be Amphoreus. More specifically to get March and Trailblazer there. Black Swan doesn't exactly seem to have malicious intent, but she's shrewd and manipulative for sure.
I remember in one of her Express guest dialogues, Black Swan expressed how she was unfortunately unable to restore March’s memory. Maybe she suggested Amphoreus specifically because she knew going there might help March recover her memory. She might not be able to restore it herself, but at least she could provide the pathway for March. (edit for typos)
@@Rainthority Perhaps... I do think the restoration of March's memories will be the catalyst for something greater. In 2.0 Black Swan was saying something about the cradle of the Remembrance. I'm not sure what to make of that. I'm just going off my memory though, gonna have to revisit 2.0.
@@Rainthority There is a possibility Black Swan was lying. Her claim that the Remembrance never lies is a lie itself. She in Penacony deceived us to trick us into carrying an empty Lightcone to save Penacony from it's fate from the power of Ena the Order. She can save us a billion times, I still do not trust her. I have a grudge against the Remembrance stealing memories. And not just stealing memories to make a backup of the universe, they stole them for other reasons too. That may or may not be selfish. Memories are priceless yes, but that's exactly why they have no right to steal them for selfish reasons. One of the Memokeepers literally tried to trick Kiana into giving them her memories in Main Story Part 2 in HI3rd. But even that dummy was smart enough to not fall into that trap. Probably because of the Memokeeper's approach was very similar to that of the puppets of the Herrscher of Domination, which Kiana also did not fall into their trap to steal from her. The Herrscher may have woken up Sirin inside Kiana, but after learning what happened to Bronya, she was smart enough to not allow the Herrscher of Domination steal her powers. Because of those memories, may be why Kiana saw though the trap to try to steal her memories
dev said that amphoreus will last from 3.0-3.7 like a full year who knows we might actually get 5* march since streets said all of the chrysos heirs are 5* either way im very excited for amphoreus lore! looking foward to your theories too!
March might be the sole survivor of Amphoreus (or whatever place it was before). I'm thinking if the MC will take Phainon's duty into their own to change whatever is in their prophecy. Also, with the new trailers, it seems Mem is related to Cyrene. Maybe she is like March but now turned into a Memosprite, only fragments of once they were.
I do wonder since we know this is a parallel to Elysian Realm would it mean that whoever is march lookalike is actually the real personality of March ? (It's completely based of Fu Hua and Senti sharing a body and all that entails)
I feel like whoever March was is a wholly new character. The only character there I feel are really returning are Kevin, Elysia (literal most popular HI3 character), Eden, Pardofelis, Vill-V (but actually split now). Castorice should be Aponia, but I am not 100% as the design somewhat differentiates itself, same goes for Su as Anaxa, Kalpas or Kosma as Mydei (I lean Kosma, but neither of em have at first glance a similar personality). Interestingly enough we are also apparently getting the reincarnation of Rin (Sakura’s sister) instead of Sakura herself (who is also one of the top characters in terms of popularity in HI3). And the other missing Characters being Hua, Griseo, Kalpas and Mobius, so I feel it unlikely she is going to be the reincarnation or personality of any of em (as funny as it would be if she was Mobius).
It’s soooo crazy bc I predicted a 5* March 7th when I first saw the livestream lol it just made sense bc we first uncovered Dan’s past and now we are doing the same with march , and she is also due for her 5* just like Dan got 😂they kind of seem to be following a pattern so far , MC will get a new path and then one of the express gets their 5* new path , so far it’s only been 1 other person being Dan😂but I have a feeling it will continue and then after March gets her 5* we will get our new path upgrade !!
I'm a bit confused that if Amphoreus is just on a loof as if it's like a recording, how come March 7th once decided to ask help from the outsider in order to change the outcome? I guess unless someone helped her get out of their planet (that is not from Amphoreus) 🤔
What about the Marshal of the xianshou ? I have a theory regarding One of the chrisos heirs.... The real ones not the memory of them, i think some of them survived and left the planet, one of them has to be the Marshal herself and I believe it's one of the hidden characters.
I think some of that could come to fruition, but there are things about March that don't seem to connect as much with Amphoreus, maybe she could have passed through this planet and tried to help, and Amphoreus could be the last stop that she made before she lost her memories, so amphoreus will be just a part of her storie
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I’ve really enjoying watching all the videos on this channel. It helps recap for those who are new and provides great food for thought. And you have even been right sometimes! As someone who plays this game for the fantastic themes and lore, I’m so glad you’re covering everything.
Hyped for Amphoreus!!
#Peak2.0
That silhouette has March's hair, that is absolutely March's hair
March gonna have her own Veliona
Whaaaaa😱😱
i never noticed that until the side by side in the video and i'm fucking losing my mind
esp after rewatching the 3.0 stream and it being mentioned she'd have a revelation of some kind
@@unsterino WAIT FR?
@identipathy YEAH i don't remember when exactly but i remember one dude mentioning not seeing her, and someone else saying that she was still important to the story, and that she'd come to some realization after getting off the train
here's a theory:
Phainon has the Stellaron and he is the actual reason why Amphoreus is in a loop. Without spoiling much of HI3rd, Kevin, the character that Mihoyo based Phainon from, did similar things MORE THAN ONCE. Kevin was a Hero turned "Villain" as he saw the best way to save humanity is to strip them of their humanity, (well kinda). Welt has said that people who look like other people (in the context of Luocha and Otto) often share similar fates and we see this happening in the game. Bronya relationship with Cocolia and Seele and her responsibilty as the new leader of belobog mirrors that of her HI3rd's counterpart, Acheron's backstory is almost 1 to 1 to the story of HI3rd. So i think the reveal that Phainon put Amphoreus in a loop in order for preserve the world by looping the world before it's destruction is not a farfetched idea. This will also be a good reason as to why Fuli, Mythus and Nous be intersted in the world's fate if the theory is true.
Fuli probably saw Amorpheus as an incomplete memory, Nous saw Phainon's action as delaying the inevitable but also as a case study, and Mythus saw the state of loop to see if Amorpheus can change it's fate.
This could also explain the seamless transition of stelle to phainon in the new music vid of amphoreus!
Bro is cooking 5 michelin star meal
@@bayy8289 wait what pls explain I don't get why it would explain the transition
also, let's remember that March 7th before we leave the express said that the first person we always have found in among the planets it's the most "important" or has an important role behind the courtains (In Belobog Sampo, In Xianzhou Tingyun, In penacony Misha) and now Phainon is the first Chrysos Heirs we have met at amphoreous
edit: spelling error
He defo has more for him in the story he's a bit of a Gary Stu atm
Another thing to add onto Amphoreus being an infinity, specifically, from how we see it, it's a mobius strip! A one sides/faced object or shape. Its one side, never ending, with no beginning face or ending edge. Also contributing to the theory that amphoreus is trapped in a loop of continuous linear path in time towards its own death.
@@twopeople254 and Klein's bottle!
@@twopeople254 theory: amphoreus Is part of jolyne's body during the c-moon fight
@@frieren2874Jojo reference ⁉️
Homestuck broke me, I can't read "Mobius strip" and not think about Mobius Double Reacharound...
16:00 this reminds me of Svarog back in the Belobog quest. He said through his calculations, he did not see a way to win the battle. But what he was lacking was new variables. This could refer to Nous, because he also doesn't have new variables which is the express crew.
Smart, i also like this theory!
It’s so wild to me how great you are at capturing my attention to watch a long form lore video about a game I don’t even play 😂 your writing is truly impeccable. So YES TO MORE VIDEOS!
@@AlexDoesntArt curious. What do you play? And how you got here lol
@@AlexDoesntArt that's interesting 😂 how did you even get here lol
@@haninjamaxflare555 Probably from genshin, assuming from their Pfp.
I mean all the astral express crew have a mysterious past
except Welt
@bohlam6c there are people who didn't play HI3 so they don't know anything
@@AndreinaGerman tbf it still there, you can read it and the game loves to make a reference to it (literally every new world after Herta's Space Station has at least one). But the other are actual mysteries only to be revealed as the story goes on. Even Dan Heng still has a lot of gaps in his backstory that we don't really know much and no amount of research can answer it unless mihoyo release a new story for them.
I'm not saying "you must play HI3rd" but he is the least mysterious out of every crew, even Pom Pom and Himeko are more mysterious than him.
@@AndreinaGerman well, at this point only Pompom, Himeko and March still have mysterious past.
@rin3484 can't forget we don't actually know much about the Trailblazer's past
17:20 March's playable path is Preservation! Combining this with the fact that it happened to March makes it more interesting
A lot of very solid arguments. I kind of hope that this will be linked to March because it will give the Astral Express more reasons to be involved in this world story, other than just carburant and trailblazing.
Thanks for the video as always, very good content!
@@loleaupoki rn I think we are going to learn about the astral express crew one by one with each new planet while building up the hype for war among aeons
@@ashimsywhy would they start a war tho? They're not forming new alliances or enemies, nor did a new aeon appear for the balance to change..
@@D0NTHEMAN nah we'll likely start with eliminating emanators of destruction, in the end of 2.6 Feixiao says she will hunt the Legion ( followers of destruction) and we all know that Xianzhou story hasn't finished yet because we haven't gotten a path from there yet :b
March rememberece path as we always thought
another reason why the chrysos heirs keep failing is there could be an external factor already which enforces Nous' prediction to come true. and that could also be the reason why Herta is so intrigued by this world, because she's been wanting to meet that Enforcer.
Hmm. It's giving polka..
Finality?
@@picklepie5127 hmm I don't think something like Elio's script needs an enforcer because in finality's pov, the future had already happened. I was referring to Polka haha
Holy shit the March 7th theory you cooking since way back when is actually aging like a fine wine 😂
You are unto something 😂
The March theory is very cool and sad at the same time
Like I love March and her lore reveal would be dope
But showing us Elysia and then taking her away from us will feel painful
So, I looked at the drip marketing as well, those little messages next to the Titan’s symbols took me a while to figure out, but these are them!
Aglaea - Thank you for your hard work all these while.
Mydei - Mydeimos become king.
Tribbie - From now on no more goodbyes.
If we successfully save amphoreus, the planet might fade away if it's really just a memory- and March will too since she's part of that memory (I might be crazy saying this but I expect a bittersweet ending)
that's a reach. They've pointed out March is meant to always journey and grow along with the trailblazer. That's like suggesting Paimon might die pre Sumeru
She won't die. She's the poster girl of HSR. March is physically alive so it could be more like she is the sole survivor of Amphoreus and that's why she is being stopped to access her past memories.
@mythril30 actually, March AND one of the blackend silhouettes are alive, and they are rumored to be martial Hua for the Xianzou, which is what happens in Hi3. Hua survives being apart of the flame chasers and goes on to do other things, Martial Hua is apart of this group of flamechasers and goes on to be the martial! So really it's a duo survivor type of thing.
@@TroubledGoth-xx I won't believe it until it's told in-game. Even tho Hi3 and HSR are connected and could have parallels, the things you said still are not fact until proven. I can't imagine how they'd connect M. Hua in Amphoreus (pls. not another Xianzhou story injected in between). Personally, I'd hate it if the story is exactly how the Hi3 lore went. Some parallels would be welcome but same plot is just lazy writing.
@mythril30 I don't remember what TikTok it was but there was a story on how marshal Hua became marshal Hua through a book or something I don't remember, and the book was almost identical to hi3's story and the book talks about Marshal Hua's life before being marshal Hua which was on a planet where 12 heroes fought, idk which TikTok post I saw but the book is ingame I just need to remember the name
0:47 No wait if that's actually March I may actually spend money on this game for the very first time
as a former hi3 player, i feel another elysian realm... *shudders*
NO NO NO NO NO I CANT HANDLE THE END AGAIN NOOO WE BETTER FIND A WAY TO SAVE THEM THIS TIME PLEASE GOD PLEASE HOYOVERSE PLEEEASE SAVE KEVIN SAVE HIM
@@lambykin842 knowing hoyo, I think not
*memories of "Because of You" cutscene flashbacks*...
Amazing, you NEED more recognition i swear
Rearranging the order to fit the description and keeping the story the same is something I would've never thought about! I already mostly knew about everything mentioned in this video except this part explaining the reason for this theory! 14:34
what a great analysis! was so easy to follow. I watch a lot of different HSR lore creators and your videos stood out to me. Looking forward to more!
Yeah and I also like that AI voice isn’t used 😊
🎵 I'm flying high, defyyyyying memoryyyy~
Just you and I, defyyyying memory~🎶
🎵And you can't bring my delulu down!...🎶
🎶🎵What's the songs name~🎵🎼
@@ZeroxfishZain9047 defying gravity but I replaced it with memoryyyy because of the thumbnailllll~
I just wanted to drop by and say that I'm SO glad that your analysis matches up with my gut reactions about Amphoreus. I was worried that I might've cooked a little too hard when I first thought of Amphoreus as a living memory back when the trailers started coming out, but seeing someone else with basically the same take is a massive reassurance. I can't wait to see if we get proven right! Also phenomenal work with the March stuff, I'm totally convinced and super excited to see what they do with her.
commenting for the algorithm! I just discovered your channel and I am so hyped to go through all your videos this evening, excellent theory!
Welcom aboard! Glad you enjoyed it.
I like your arguments for the enigmata, i still think the order is possible as one of the other paths, the golden age makes me think of the worlds under Ena's control and the eye imagery ofc. I really like that you are integrating the du equations into your theories, i would have never made that connection with march and the preservation/remembrance equation, I enjoyed this a lot
I love the March theory except for the chess piece part, which i think is actually connected to one of the Lord Ravagers (forgot their name) who loves to play chess and bring destruction to planets. But everything else kind of lines up
Super cool video! Thanks for writing this script and editing it, even if it took a while. Im glad this was my introduction to your channel! I love that theory about march.
This is actually such a smart theory and I won't be surprised if it's comes true. excellent video!
Im assuming this is true, and the reason we get a quill/pen is to "rewrite" the story of ampherous as a planet, and break them free from the repetition.
I'm assuming that too is part of Elio's script, as Trailblazer being the hero is vital to the Stellaron Hunters' plans. Kafka herself states this fact
Instant subscribe. Such good substantive analysis
I love thiss, it contains theory and i information, with a humorous vibe i love itttt
Holding space for Amphoreus to defy memory
Rainthority cooking as always
i know this theory is centered around hsr (and by extension hi3) but this also reminds me of how teyvat in genshin is. residents of the world not being allowed to know life beyond their world… not being able to leave… false sky… i really hope we can get some more lore / connections with that too! as a lover of both games im practically vibrating at the thought
At 10:19 I have a slight correction. Mythus's emanators aren't the only ones who are History Fictionologists. Gallagher, who isn't an emanator as far as we know, also follows the Enigmata, but we know he isn't one of the Riddlers, so he must be a History Fictionologist himself (also because his job was literally making Penacony's history more confusing if we take Mikhail's words as true). There is a possibility History Fictionologists could be in Amphoreus, which could explain why the heretical black tide came from beyond Amphoreus.
Eh no Gallagher the fictional character is created by a History Fictionologist, all HF are emanators of the Enigmata (Mythus). Meaning the person behind Gallagher whoever the fuck they are is an Emanator. Only an Emanator of Enigmata/Remembrance can create a fanciful dreamscape without the help of a Stellaron, infact they are the only beings aside from Fuli and Mythus capable of making dreamscapes, Gallagher even said it himself, he or the person behind him created Dreamflux reef which is not a creation of the Family but by the HF behind Gallagher. So that automatically translates to the HF of Galla being an Emanator because they were able to make Dreamflux Reef. HF are also known to be able to turn fictional/memetic or what not entities real. Thats how Gallagher well more accurately the real Gallagher was able to allow Dr. Blues (the birb) to exist both in reality and the dreamscape. Gallagher himself the virtual character is only a pathstrider the real Gallagher is an Emanator. Now to think about it HF are pretty much Op to be able to turn there imagination into reality and thats a power no normal pathstrider of Enigmata would posses. These is why the databank suspects they are all Emanators due to how powerful and mind bending there supposed powers are. A Riddler is more likely to be a normal pathstrider of Enigmata.
Love this vid!! That March 7th theory holds water… frozen tight!
16:49 after playing the 3.0 tb quest i gotta say you might be onto something here
Spoiler alert for at the end of 3.0 tb quest
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The fact that we saw march got re-encased in ice again as the astral train got closer into amphoreus kind of a nod of how the world itself is kinda in a loop of destroying and rebuilding itself
This was a great video ! I cannot wait to see March's involvement in the later chapters.
Also even Mr. Reca seemed to pay extra attention to March in the latest photography event. Some of the dialogues in that event made me go a bit suspicious. I wonder just what role does March play in regards with the Remembrance.
I wonder if they made amphoreus end in 3.7 on purpose cause you know… 3.7 is similair to 3/7 which is march 7th… i htink i’m goign crazy
Ohmygod 3/7 is literally march 7th😭 (we're all going a little crazy for march lore lol)
you know i heard from somewhere that the stellerons inherently pervert a path in a way like in penacony where the stelleron was used to keep people in Ena's dream or on the Xiaozhou (i hope i spelled that right) to revive the ambrosial harbor so maybe the stelleron might be corrupting the memory of Amphoreus since Amphoreus is maintained by the remembrance Fuli so if this is a trend then the stelleron may be doing something with the corruption of memories Kinda like i don't the path of enigmata so that is my take on what the stelleron problem is
What an incredible,connecting,almost accurate to lore story.If this story happens in amphoreus as u explained then it will be bonkers.Thank u for making such deep analysis for us.
This is a pretty interesting theory! I have theorized before that march is indeed related to fuli the remembrance. I even a scrapped a theory where she was a memokeeper at some point. but i have never stretched farther then that since that's as far as all of the information that we currently have about her character goes.
I'm a lore play, so I'm very excited for Amphoreus!
Hello, I am a Tears Of Themis player, another hoyo games right there. The new event from the game caught me off guard seriously. This is not relate to the video (or maybe?) but some quotes from the NPC and main characters are really caught me off guard.
NPC: "This is one big delusional dream... This karmic cycle has been predestined. In this delusional world, people are completely insignificant. Their fate was already determined the second the story was written. The author has left, but the characters in the story are still following fate, encountering happiness and misery. There is no end to stories like this. They are scattered across every corner of the world."
and several main chatacters answer:
"Destined or not, the stories of mortals will continue on."
"Whether it's a delusion or reality, what does the happiness, anger, sadness, love, hatred, and resentment that mortals feel have to do with the gods?"
"Even though we are in a delusional dreamland, who can claim that our current feelings are not real?"
I loved the part of eons talking omg😭 love your vids (happy new year)
Gotta clown them uncaring celestial bodies somehow 😤
And the Devs said the Amphoreus will last from 3.0-3.7
3.7 = MARCH 7 they are not hiding it.
@@Marbeary well x.7 is where every version ends but that's a cool coincidence!
@@IloveWandererandDanHeng 1.7 didnt exist
Huh the year of the snake starts with an ouroboros shaped "planet"😅
riiiight... that's this year in the current cycle of the Eastern Zodiac isn't it?
Great work!
"12 heroes who chase the flame"
Not pictured: me breaking down.
After watching both the new years livestream and the 3.0 livestream this makes much more sense
You've cooked so much, especially knowing some "things" from some "sources"
ok 1 min in and I can already tell that you are cooking with this one
I have a theory, probably wrong but yeah:
The aeons of “information” that you talk about
What if you talk not about “information” but time
Past-Remembrance
Present-Erudition
Future-Finality
Fuli records “past information” as u said, and nous records information about the universe, so it’s safe to assume that they collect “present” data, and finality, we can already see from the stellaron hunters their ”script”, so yeah, a connection to the future
i need to put this in writing. the red portrait is march when she was on amphoreus, and cyrene is the current march, or the person will be remembrance march
This is a very plausible theory!
Great vid, earned my subscription. I already watch Ashikai vids for Genshin lore, now I will have a youtuber for HSR lore, pog.
48 seconds into the video I'm already convinced and thrilled to know more 😲
This was really good. I think you're touching on the truth.
Absolutely great analysis 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻 It does look in the trailer that we see memories of the Flamechasers there before everything went to hell so we will be able to experience them or at least see them. There is the scene before Stelle stops the time where they lie defeated but then the promo arts look at least in some of them as their older/ changed versions after they became the flamechasers. They will definitely hurt us in this installment a LOT. "Happy moments" will be scarce. And also probably that's why it will be so long
They even introduce time-rewinding mechanic. Amphoreus surely will be a long one.
Amphorias needs the Trailblazer for sure, they’re the only one that can defy fate
This was very interesting!!
Really interesting theory. I hope this proves to be the case!
When you get black swan and she messages you, she actually talks about march, i forgot what it was but it was about her being from some form of importance
This is great! Can't wait for 3.0 to drop!
Man after 3.0 I think we are for a ride.
This is insanely good
the only way i can jive with fuli being the cause of amphoreus is if there is no way to recover it, as it is only a memory of what did happen
or the way it is recovered is of astronomical power and significance
that cannot be trivialized
i.e.
direction intervention from other paths
the memory cannot just be changed, the prophecy fullfilled, and that just undoes the destruction of amphoreus full stop
because that speaks to me more like fuli preserved amphoreus instead of remembering it
Well you just said outloud my headcanon for 3.0 , thankgod I found this channel ❤
My mind is blown this is soo cool
I'll Hold Space With The Thumbnail
11:27 GET O-
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I want to add that Hoyo decided to give out March's skin in 3.0, when the skin had debut in 1.4, which is almost 2 years ago in 2023.
Hoyo also likes to sell some of their characters on specific dates, i.e. Fugue.
so maybe 5 star March in patch 3.7? March 7th? also the end of amphoreus
That’s also the first thing that comes to my mind when they mentioned 3.7 being the last patch of version 3.x. That cannot be a coincidence.
wait, is he cooking?!
IS THE TH-cam BELL NOT WORKING??? WHY DID I MISS THIS VIDEO???
This now my fave channel. Do you have one about Kevin/Phainon?
If you think about it hard enough Remembrance is just a massive Git repository with Fuli being the guy who does git commit and git revert every now and then
holy babbling
@@mkiiespi7078 wtf is a git
@@mkiiespi7078 what is git?
real
Fuli better not git revert March or I will cry
@@AndreinaGerman @D0NTHEMAN to put it simply, it's a really great tool you can use to control your stuff's versions, such as bringing back old files that you deleted, or saving the current files you have as a state (wow, where have we seen an Aeon doing this)
@@mitchellm1602 cry? I'll sudo rm -rf /* this mf's computer
Oh I LOVE this theory
Amazing video. Considering everything, specially the way the game has been teasing how March should be the next one to "get stabbed and gain a new weapon" I think we're about to know the truth.
The rememberance has been keeping a close eye on her.
I have a theory that maybe March could become an Emanator of Remembrance. Idk why but it feels likely since it’s theorized that we might be getting a 5* March. Really curious about this coming story!
I think the Titans in Amphoreus parallel the Aeon and March is connected to either Remembrance or Finality. Though coreflame yeah might be the stellaron cause looking Phaenon putting blood over himself and the tattoo looking thing forming and flower tattoo. Aglaea and Fugue have similar tattoos and made me thing of stigmata and how those are formed in HI3 with Herscher cores. So then the coreflames might be Hiercher core wait does that mean titans are honkai. I doubt it but that parallel makes sense and might be connected to the bigger game and Herta question of divinity.
SHE APPEARED ON THE LAST SHOT OF THE TRAILER... Ur gonna nail it
My theory on march 7th she is a emanator of the remembrance but heres the twist her status had some niche but shes no different in Acherons case so hear me out...on this one
Unlike ordinary pathstriders in the remembrance like the memokeepers and cremators these two have something in common both have the common limited ability to travel through, take and alter memories within that spectrum but heres a oddly specific trait they have is that they have memories retained and having no physical bodies and becoming memetic entities entirely dependent on memories of someone to actually have the capacity to travel in the cosmos. But this entire situation is in reverse for a Emanator for the Remembrance if assuming shes a emanator considering her deep ties to the remembrance and her obsession about taking picture s wherever she goes in that way she wont forget any of the precious memories she made along her companions and even herself my speculations are that a Emanators memories can either be used to manifest their physical bodies or Fuli has a the ability to take someones psyche and manifest them as memetic entities and then preserve thier bodies in the garden of recollection for any path strider manage to reach this title will have thier bodies given back them but their memories will exchange for the ample of power that fuli give them considering the path itself is highly associated with memories and all that so yeah that my theory for march 7th
i believe this planet is in the same state as schrödinger cat , stuck in limbo.
they're need outside observer to decide their fate.
Hmmm... nice theory
Very nice theory! Also if March ever dies for real in the story prematurely I (and i mean my trailblazer) WILL go the Otto Apocalypse route, we managed to dodge that bullet with Firefly in Penacony at least lol
I really hope this March theory come to be true!!! Seems dope
Waiting for you after the live
OMG I'M FEELING SO MUCH EXCITEMENT! V3.0 TRAILER OUT NOW! PLEASEEEEEE
I know its really late but, enigmata looks like a jellyfish haha, and the lightcone for remembrance also i think looks like a jellyfish haha
If they pull an "FF10" plot on us with March 7th at the end of this all I will scream.
What do you mean
@@NewMe9013 if i dont remember wrong the plot goed something like the main character is a "clone" ment to hold a soul and save the land of their race but it was defective and was created with personality and conscience and cast down to the lower land but in the end he was the solution all along
11:22 Ocean's Abyss --> sounds like Black Swan's Ult phrase "Beneath the waters lies an endless abyss" plus Black swan lost her physical form right?
If the March 7th theory postulated here is correct, then maybe Black Swan is another attempt from chrysos heirs to get help from the outside universe?
13:05 I'm glad Black Swan was brought up. I don't know how many of you guys remember this, but in 2.0 Black Swan made a deal with Welt and Himeko related to the Remembrance. We never got to learn what that deal was. I get the feeling she offered to assist the express in Penacony in exchange for the next destination to be Amphoreus. More specifically to get March and Trailblazer there. Black Swan doesn't exactly seem to have malicious intent, but she's shrewd and manipulative for sure.
I remember in one of her Express guest dialogues, Black Swan expressed how she was unfortunately unable to restore March’s memory. Maybe she suggested Amphoreus specifically because she knew going there might help March recover her memory. She might not be able to restore it herself, but at least she could provide the pathway for March. (edit for typos)
@@Rainthority Perhaps... I do think the restoration of March's memories will be the catalyst for something greater. In 2.0 Black Swan was saying something about the cradle of the Remembrance. I'm not sure what to make of that. I'm just going off my memory though, gonna have to revisit 2.0.
@@Rainthority There is a possibility Black Swan was lying. Her claim that the Remembrance never lies is a lie itself. She in Penacony deceived us to trick us into carrying an empty Lightcone to save Penacony from it's fate from the power of Ena the Order. She can save us a billion times, I still do not trust her. I have a grudge against the Remembrance stealing memories. And not just stealing memories to make a backup of the universe, they stole them for other reasons too. That may or may not be selfish. Memories are priceless yes, but that's exactly why they have no right to steal them for selfish reasons.
One of the Memokeepers literally tried to trick Kiana into giving them her memories in Main Story Part 2 in HI3rd. But even that dummy was smart enough to not fall into that trap. Probably because of the Memokeeper's approach was very similar to that of the puppets of the Herrscher of Domination, which Kiana also did not fall into their trap to steal from her. The Herrscher may have woken up Sirin inside Kiana, but after learning what happened to Bronya, she was smart enough to not allow the Herrscher of Domination steal her powers. Because of those memories, may be why Kiana saw though the trap to try to steal her memories
Your video's are so good 😊
dev said that amphoreus will last from 3.0-3.7 like a full year who knows we might actually get 5* march since streets said all of the chrysos heirs are 5* either way im very excited for amphoreus lore! looking foward to your theories too!
March might be the sole survivor of Amphoreus (or whatever place it was before). I'm thinking if the MC will take Phainon's duty into their own to change whatever is in their prophecy.
Also, with the new trailers, it seems Mem is related to Cyrene. Maybe she is like March but now turned into a Memosprite, only fragments of once they were.
I do wonder since we know this is a parallel to Elysian Realm would it mean that whoever is march lookalike is actually the real personality of March ? (It's completely based of Fu Hua and Senti sharing a body and all that entails)
I feel like whoever March was is a wholly new character. The only character there I feel are really returning are Kevin, Elysia (literal most popular HI3 character), Eden, Pardofelis, Vill-V (but actually split now).
Castorice should be Aponia, but I am not 100% as the design somewhat differentiates itself, same goes for Su as Anaxa, Kalpas or Kosma as Mydei (I lean Kosma, but neither of em have at first glance a similar personality).
Interestingly enough we are also apparently getting the reincarnation of Rin (Sakura’s sister) instead of Sakura herself (who is also one of the top characters in terms of popularity in HI3).
And the other missing Characters being Hua, Griseo, Kalpas and Mobius, so I feel it unlikely she is going to be the reincarnation or personality of any of em (as funny as it would be if she was Mobius).
It’s soooo crazy bc I predicted a 5* March 7th when I first saw the livestream lol it just made sense bc we first uncovered Dan’s past and now we are doing the same with march , and she is also due for her 5* just like Dan got 😂they kind of seem to be following a pattern so far , MC will get a new path and then one of the express gets their 5* new path , so far it’s only been 1 other person being Dan😂but I have a feeling it will continue and then after March gets her 5* we will get our new path upgrade !!
Keren bgt kak theory nya 👏👏
Omg... is March from Amphoreus?😱
I really hope we will get 5* rememberance March
Nice video, himeko.
I'm a bit confused that if Amphoreus is just on a loof as if it's like a recording, how come March 7th once decided to ask help from the outsider in order to change the outcome? I guess unless someone helped her get out of their planet (that is not from Amphoreus) 🤔
What about the Marshal of the xianshou ? I have a theory regarding One of the chrisos heirs.... The real ones not the memory of them, i think some of them survived and left the planet, one of them has to be the Marshal herself and I believe it's one of the hidden characters.
I think some of that could come to fruition, but there are things about March that don't seem to connect as much with Amphoreus, maybe she could have passed through this planet and tried to help, and Amphoreus could be the last stop that she made before she lost her memories, so amphoreus will be just a part of her storie