The 6800U is no joke. It's a little beast for emulation and PC gaming. I own the GPD Win Max 2. Ergonomically, it's not as comfortable as something like the Steam Deck but the Vita dpad, vita buttons, the native horizontal screen and physical keyboard and trackpad more than make up for it. Tons of utility.
I just wanna say thank you for being so honest right at the beginning of the video. The device is absolutely out of my price range, but I was still curious to see how it would perform. Keep it up the great content of the channel!
@@ryecatcher25 or enthusiasts that do nothing else. I have a relatively modest income (less than 45k USD per year) and could afford this, but I would need it to be my only major purchase for the year, or maybe one of two major purchases. I wouldn't be able to get this AND support other hobbies. I also probably wouldn't be able to afford this if I had children or if I didn't have a roommate paying part of the rent.
@@ryecatcher25 Completely untrue. 1) I'll assume you're American, ya'll have this "We are the only people in the world." attitude. 2) The Steam Deck isn't available in the majority of the world, and importing one costs the same as these consoles. My AYANEO 2 cost the same as the Deck. 3) Entire communities are based around these handhelds with hundreds of thousands of fans, just because you're poor, doesn't mean we are. 4) It's not a budget device, it's not even claiming to be, Russ does however review devices from all different price brackets.
@@MarkGibbons lol America really makes "ya'll" mad 😂. You're on an American platform, posting a comment on a channel of an American reviewer, mad about an American product, using American slang... you know you're right the world does revolve around us lmao
I'm curious why you went for the top end? I get the storage, but 32GB of RAM for a gaming PC isn't going to help much (I say this as an owner of a personal gaming rig with 32GB of RAM, but got it for being able to have lots of things open at once AND for using part of it as cache for my HDDs using primocache. My custom NAS has 64GB for virtual machines and ZFS ARC). I guess what I really mean to ask is if you're planning on doing a lot more with this thing than gaming? It's certainly capable. I'm not judging, just curious if there was more to it than grabbing the highest capacity version so you know you won't ever be bottlenecked by not having spent enough.
@@BeamerTime354 no there isn't for most people, unless you really don't want to worry about opening your device. Though, I'm kind of scared of Valve having the price that low because it's going to make good competition hard since Valve is definitely selling the Steam Deck nearly at cost in the hopes that they subsidize other costs associated with it (such as ongoing development and prior engineering) and profits with Steam software sales. Aya, OneX, Ayn, and others don't have this luxury and they're certainly not going to be able to build their own store to do this.
Just wanna say I've been binging your channel non stop for the past week, absolutely love the vids. Never knew handhelds like these even existed and now I'm addicted, I even ordered a gamesir x2 for my phone so I can play some retro games 😅
@@nytshyft That's a janky option if i'm being honest. Not saying playing games off a usb can't be done but on a mobile handled that be something i don't want to deal with. I could get a Aya Neo and use a micro SD card on that, same with the steam deck.
This is definitely out of my price range and I'm very much still happy with my RG351V and Steam Deck for the time being, but I still enjoy your videos to see what's new in the industry. Thank you for doing what you do!
hey russ! I've been watching your videos for about 6 months now, and I really enjoy them. Your content is great and I hope you keep doing for a long time. Cheers
So I did a thing, I got this exact model on refurb for under $1200 CAD (on its way already) so I cannot wait to see what this beast does for me! Your reviews are great as always.
This is my latest device, It's great bar the lack of micro sd slot and the analogue sticks that are a more like a switch size, other than those two moans, I'm enjoying it more than my steamdeck for sure. 9/10 device -0.5 for sticks -0.5 for no Micro SD slot.
I got the 32GB 2TB version a little over a month ago and am surprised how positive your review is. Mine has had constant quality control issues with the D-Pad constantly thinking I'm pushing buttons that I'm not, rumble happening randomly for no reason and then never stopping, and the sound card randomly only playing static noise for no reason. The device relies on turning off security issues to run OXP properly, and OXP asks for administrator privileges every time I start my machine. I'm pretty sure the audio device they used in it doesn't even have Windows 11 drivers, although that issue happened even after I downgraded to Windows 10. OXP support is largely unhelpful. It's a really dangerous buy due to their lack of quality control in my opinion.
You get what you pay for with Chinese products. Lack of quality control. Their business doesn't revolve around helping their customers and making sure every device is fully functional
@@168original7 with 4-10 days wait for each reply from so called steam support and can easily ghost you if you keep contacting for quality control issues Also I guess Valve building American devices made from American parts 😂😂
21:20 The game shown is Super Mario 3D World, not Super Mario Odyssey. Though most people would know, just wanted to let Russ know there was a small error.
Few notes: - you can control rgb even in Batocera. Home buttom+vol down will change effect, holding down a few seconds will turn on/off rgb led. - recent update to OXP Player Center added super cool feature that I didn't see anywhere else. Now it have systemwide fps limiter and TDP automode. Now you don't need to manually find "right" TDP for the games, system will change it itself on the fly to maintain specific fps.
Is that a Pedro the Lion shirt?! Amazing band. Thank you so much for your amazing content. I love your videos and the fact that they are so straightforward and packed with details. Thanks!
There's so much to love about this one. But I play a lot of 2d platformers and I wish they'd go the route the Steam Deck went and make the d-pad and left analogue basically equal. This doesn't look as bad as most handheld PCs out there, and I know it makes the whole unit more bulky, but having a super comfortable d-pad position really makes gaming so much more enjoyable for me.
Because you don’t know how to operate anything 😂 On my PC I run stand-alone emulators smooth as butter on a baby’s bum. I don’t need retroarch and all those useless frontends because I do know how to operate systems lool Will do the same when my Mini Pro arrives this month and will be smooth on there and run better than on steam deck - but that’s for my needs right For me I pirate older games, some new ones too but those will remain for my PC or Series X. I ran emulation on series S and hated and never went back to it since I got my PC. But now it will be amazing for me to run my older games almost maxed out on smaller screen and my best emulator games on bigger screen than when they released. In other words for me this like being a kid again hyped up for my PSP (I got daxter version) and playing all that nostalgia on a small screen again. That’s the biggest buy for me, and steam deck ruined that and pushed me to these expensive devices by making my purchase a hassle
Im really liking the direction these handhelds are going in. The performance just isn't there for me to want to drop 1200-1500 on one quite yet, but I'm excited to see where we are in a few more years.
Hi Russ, will you be getting the GPD Win 4 for review? It would be great to hear opinion from someone who really knows what handheld gamers really looks for. Wanted to know if it got your 'seal of approval' before i decide.
I didn't see you mention it, (and considering your other content I understand why you probably didn't think about it since you focus more on handheld devices and retro gaming in general than PC gaming specifically) but I wonder how much better the battery life could be without sacrificing some clarity if you could use AMD's FSR. Theoretically this device should be capable of it, and it's one of the ways I use on my Steam Deck to help increase battery life without sacrificing visuals too much. I saw it wasn't a built in option on the quick menu for the OneX like it is in the Steam Deck, but you should be able to get it running on the device. Maybe it could be added to the quick menu later.
Heeyyy Pedro the Lion Winners Never Quit. One of my favorite albums back in highschool. David Bazaan has some really great recent work too, he's such a good story teller.
This is the best take. Unfortunately due to FOMO and the accelerating rate of newer tech coming out, people will seemingly never be satisfied with their choice. You know how the saying goes. "Comparison is the thief of joy" or something like that
I got gpd win 3 on sale , it is same kind of device like this and I can say these handhelds are pretty good. It's portable, smaller than any laptop, ready to play any games with controller (with laptop you need to bring separate controller). Compare to Steam Deck, you can use as a window laptop for work too. Specs is better than steam deck. Especially if you somehow get hacked games, you can also play them. You can even play upcoming diablo 4 or world of warcraft, lost ark, and fifa 23
Oh wow. That software for changing tdp, fan speed, and resolution really has my attention. I think at this point I would want to wait for the OneXPlayer 2 for the larger screen and likely better price if I jump on the launch day deals. And here I thought Aya Neo had the best software. Jokes on me I guess.
Great video and review as usual, Russ! I do like the sound of this device, but no micro SD slot and a weak D-pad are kind of a dealbreaker for me. I like having extra external storage of a micro SD. Also, I probably would want to play some older 2D games and would want a solid D-pad without risk of a missed input. Other than those few issues, that seems like a great handheld gaming device! Though, I have a Steam Deck being delivered this week, so I'm pretty much all set for gaming devices for now.
Excellent perspective, as always. I really appreciate the diplomatic expectation-setting at the very top of the video. The specter of the Steam Deck looms large over these devices, the ever-present oddity of an outlier (as in hardware subsidized by software sales) almost single-handedly redefining the market for handheld PCs, but it’s not the only game in town. While I’m quite content with my Steam Deck, I love seeing what others are doing in the space and how other gamers might respond differently with their own wallets. The lack of micro SD, however, seems a head scratchingly glaring omission.
Honestly I'm wondering if I should have saved up and gotten one of the other options with the 6800u later, but I can't say I really regret my decision because I have questions about long term support for these other products like the OneXPlayer her and the Aya Neo. Valve is a more established company (with probably deeper pockets) and can afford to support the device both in repair (and to my knowledge none of these other companies are providing replacement parts, though they might and I missed it) and in software updates (my steam Link hardware STILL receives updates even though they stopped selling them several years ago) and their track record in support so far has been phenomenal. I'm not saying these other companies can't or won't compete in terms of support, but they don't have the track record Valve has and are therefore more of a gamble. While I might miss out on things like a little better performance, a little better battery life, and a much better screen, I'm not sure if it would be worth the trade to make a gamble on support. I already had to have my steam deck repaired because it fell off my table and broke the shoulder button, but Valve support was great about it (I have heard of someone not having a great experience with Valve support on a broken trigger, but I didn't get a lot of details about the situation) I also knew the support would probably be good going into the purchase in October after hearing about the opening of repair depots, the parts being sold on ifixit (unfortunately the button board I needed to fix my bumper was not on ifixit or else I would have done it myself and I wasn't sure what momentary switch to get as a replacement to solder on) as well as how quickly software updates that fixed major problems were being produced.
@@CreativityNull agreed-another aspect of how Valve is redefining this space. While I don’t have any experience with the other vendors in the handheld gaming PC arena, one always reads horror stories involving smaller companies and getting lost in lack of support situations. While other companies may not be able to compete on the subsidy front, they would do well to structure their business models on the best possible customer experience-before, during, and after sale. I think this speaks to a larger void in most modern consumer goods, though, as we are ever shifting to this more “crowdfunded,” almost knee-jerk kind of economy where items and trends tend to feel a bit more fly by night, no? That’s not to say that this device (or any other) is doomed to be poor quality, just that the sense of investment in customer care seems a long lost relic of a time long, long ago. (Says the 42 year old who remembers a slightly different situation “not long ago.”)
@@mackw919 I've heard people talk about problems with the steamdeck (like battery life, the screen, and other aspects) but I've never seen outright disdain for the product and even the people that point that out are usually giving it as a caveat to what they believe to be an otherwise good product.
quick update for late 2024 viewers. as of this comment, the mini pro is refreshed with the ryzen 7840u 32gb ram and a minimum of 512gb storage for $650 (sale price)
Great review! I was thinking about buying one of these OneXplayer mini Pro, but after seeing how well people liked the Steam Deck that's what I went with.. The price also ended up being a factor in my decision, I got the $400 SD and bought a Micron 1TB drive ($230) and put in myself.
Dont do it this is the worst company to buy from, I have one net devices a lot of their stuff comes broken and if not that the other thing which reviewers dont tell you is that unlike GPD/AYA/DECK once the batteries dies you cant use the system just on power alone. Good luck finding shipping batteries. They purposely do this cuz at most you can use these batteries for 22 to 30 months unplugged before they are done. These arent 3ds/vita batteries. They are junk.
$630 Steam Deck 1, plus $5-80 per steam game, in 2/3 after 2023 buys new steam deck 2 for $500 (most likely won’t be) plus more expansion (SD or SSD) means total cost over 4 years = $1200 PLUS $1200 in 2023, 2-3 years later still strong, will be still stronger or equally as strong or slightly weaker than steam deck 2 (basically SD position now) while running basically all pirated steam game and destroys emulations after 4 years = saved more than steam deck spending $1200 from the start 😂😂 It’s like my $4000 tv from 2016 all 2023 models have over mine is OS updates, maybe an OLED panel (more money) or Dolby atmos which most people barely use and comparing to my buddies 2k atmos system my 2014 surround system sounds better... sure people called me stupid back then but my 4k tv had all the HDR and other specs TVs have now. VRR maybe not but does 24/30/60hz which most TVs don’t do 24hz making movies feel like soap operas. And the consoles that do VRR are not true 4K lol = aka I future proof while those with $500 1080p people will constantly be upgrading to get the features in future devices while I continue to use them lol - FYI my tv first model for those “crystal LEDs” too hahaha
One thing i wish these handheld pc companies would include, is a "no battery" mode so that it can draw power directly from the wall instead of using the battery at all. Most of the time when i play on these handheld pcs, im directly plugged into my usb charger like i would be my desktop. It seems like such a simple fix.
Especially on the windows devices. On the steam deck they feel superfluous if you're not doing anything with it besides treating it like a gaming console (like the switch). Except for typing on the onscreen keyboard. Weirdly the dual track pads feel way better than trying to tap the key on the screen.
The steam deck definitely has an edge when you consider what the thing can do for the pricetag. Availability wise though steam is shooting themselves in the foot. With handhelds like this rolling out the door while steam deck is still unavailable to even reserve in a lot of places around the world, steam's risking the deck becoming obsolete before it gets a real chance to hit some decent sales numbers.
I agree to an extent but if Valve releases a upgraded Steam Deck 2 it will alienate their current customers and those who are waiting for the Steam Deck in other regions will just wait for the updated version which will hurt their sales. Plus these more powerful devices are just too expensive for the average customer, so I believe the Steam Deck will be fine for now.
Also I do not understand why the manufactures do not add HAL effect sensors on triggers AND sticks, instead of just one or the other. And why is OLED ALWAYS missing from the high end devices. The HAL effect sensors are important, game controllers tend to have either the stick or triggers start to go back with in 2 years. Its shitty to have that go bad on mobile gaming device as it ruins the entire device not just a controller.
Depends on the device. Steam Deck has the sticks and trigger electronics on separate daughter boards from the main board so they can be easily replaced (relatively easy at least.) As for why they don't put them on, I have no idea. Especially with the triggers. The hall effect joy sticks might be relatively expensive to source, but the Xbox one (and series) controllers use hall effect triggers. Someone's gotta be making those affordable.
OLED is probably missing because of either the margins that the companies are working with is already so thin, so they couldn't afford to slap it on, or that they think IPS LCD is superior in this use case. And yeah, I don't understand why it's either or when it comes to the hall sensors... I'm guessing they only do it for one or the other just so they can say "Hey look! We got HALL EFFECT SENSORS!!! BUY OUR PRODUCT!"
Honestly, while having properly upgradable (i.e. 2280 slot, not 2230) storage is great, the lack of a micro SD card slot kills it as a handheld well before you factor in the price (which double kills it for me). And frankly, trying to sell this as a gaming PC would be absolutely asinine. The only thing that makes this a gaming device at all is that it's a handheld. As a gaming PC, at the price point its pushing for, it falls flat on its face. Calling it a Gaming PC is in a way de-emphasizing the handheld aspect and selling it in its docked form, which is dumb. In its docked desktop form it is nowhere near a gaming PC in terms of specs and gets crushed by its competition. For the price ($1200-1300USD), remember, we're ignoring the handheld aspect, I could literally get a 3070 Ti laptop. The benefits of these handhelds is that they are chiefly gaming handhelds that can also function as a basic PC on the side.
I'd love to see a video where you give a guide on how to set up the perfect emulation platform on x86 handhelds outside of the steam deck, like a lot of these systems are starting to run Windows 11 and while they have have holoiso installed on them to mimic the steamdeck OS nearly perfectly, I'd like to take advantage of the fact that it has windows on it but still enjoy the emulation freedom that comes with having an overall stronger platform than the steamdeck. I know I can just download Yuzu and Cemu, etc seperately and call it a day but is there something akin to EmuDeck for x86 handheld systems that I'm not aware of where its' a singular program I download and sets up a majority of the settings for me on their own?
What about the fan noise? I like the idea but it can't beat the SD in price per performance. The GPD Win 4 is more interesting as it has a physical keyboard and some little "trackpads" for mouse control even if I don't know yet how well the work in comparison to the Steam Deck. Does the 6800U draw more power at the low end as 6W for something like Celeste sounds much when on the SD something like Stardew Valley and even DOSBox (M&M World of Xeen, Doom 2 etc) draw between 2.8 and 4W? On the SD using Win10 + Steam Deck Tools runs the Celeste at 60fps with a power draw of around 3W (limit set to 4W, wattage reading with Rivatuner). Also the RGB LED strips are over the top and I would turn them off all of the time.
Interesting how you mentioned that this dpad is not great for precision platformers, but to me they are perfect for that. Unlike those rounded ones or very small cross dpads from Ayaneo.
How do games like WWE 2K22, Madden 23 and NBA 2K23 run on this? I like to have my sports games on the go and don't want to have to sit in front of a tv. Is NBA 2K the next gen version or previous gen version of the game on this beast of a machine?
Thanks Ross, will you please test it as well with some external GPU and on dock mode? Also does it get hot when playing or fan noise is too much or not.
Is it possible to do a quick comparison to ayaneo2. I got the original onex-1 and was not completely happy with it,. The d-pad was one issue. The inability to boot from sd-card was another. The flaky power/reset/boot thing was the third.
So I own this model of One X Player (32/2tb/6800), and got into the video (good job) to see what the front end being used, and how do I get that on mine?
watching this make me appreciate the steam deck even more. basically same performance at less than half the price. a little bit lower resolution though, but i dont think it matters much with at this screen size.
Let me clarify this all to everyone. So despite the fact it is rocking a 6800u. Onexplayer, is lacking in the button department. Trust me when I tell you! You're going to need extra buttons. This is where the steam deck shines. It has plenty of buttons, software to back it up. Solid hardware, and unbeatable price. Now I asked myself this question. Why would anyone invest their money? On a handheld PC. that lacks on everything I just said.
You just that it yourself - it has 6800u. Some people just care about performance. I think Steam deck is a better device, but there are also reasons to get competing devices.
@@TheWWWyrm I'm going to tell you. that if you lack buttons. You're going to have a bad performance experience. I was one that was going to invest getting GPD win 4 but. I started to think I was going to regret it.
What is the best 6800u handheld in the market? I can't decide which has the best ergonomics, screen, and value. I want to use it for indies and emulations
Very nice review, as always 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼. I have a question: Maybe you could do a poll here on TH-cam to see how many people would be interested in a dual screen emulation device with stylus (primarily to play Nintendo DS games, but of course also for all the other games)? I myself have been dreaming of such a handheld for a long time, and I wonder if other people feel the same way. I think this could be a real gap in the market for Anbernic and all the other manufacturers. Because let's face it, there's no third-party device that makes playing DS titles feel right. And that's really a shame, because the Nintendo DS library in particular impresses with a lots of incredibly good games.
I've seen some cool things software devs have done for DS and 3DS emulation on the Samsung Galaxy Z Fold, but so far that's been the only real thing toward it I've been able to find. Getting a $1200+ USD android smartphone, especially if you usually get iphones or usually spend less than half of that on a smartphone, isn't really what I'd call a good option if all you really want is to have better DS/3DS emulation.
@@CreativityNull But that would not be a good solution in general. A handheld needs buttons to be fun to play with. And besides, a stylus would be missing. That wouldn't be a good alternative to a proper third-party device.
@@-dAtA-TRoN- The stylus is not missing on the Galaxy Z Fold. They're all capable of using Samsung's S-Pen. You could also plugin something like the Gamesir X2 and have buttons. I didn't mention this earlier because external controllers are pretty common for Android emulator users and S-Pen support is pretty highly marketed on the Fold and is also on the spec sheet. Besides, nothing is stopping you from using another capacitive stylus in place of your finger. The DS stylus was just a chunk of plastic used on a resistive touch screen.
@@CreativityNull Yes, would still not be the same as having a "third-party DS". The stylus thing is pretty good, but I don't want to lug around a controller attachment all the time. I understand what you're saying, that one could already play DS roms quite well, but a real device for it would still be unbeatable.
@@-dAtA-TRoN- I mean, I never said it was a perfect solution, it's just workable if you already have this phone. As for "having to lug a controller" I disagree. Especially since a lot of them are compact, like the Gamesir X2. You're already probably carrying a phone and getting a handheld device would be phone plus handheld device. How is that different than phone plus controller as far as carrying things around goes? I mean, I'm not saying this is much of a solution for other reasons that I already mentioned, but the reasons you're bringing against it are kind of nonsensical. Now would a DS like piece of hardware be nice? Absolutely, but between the hardware and software requirements (like requiring a different stylus solution since no one would find a resistive touch panel acceptable these days and a big capacitive stylus would probably obscure too much of the screen. To my knowledge the only good stylus solution for Android has been the S-pen and I doubt Samsung is sharing their proprietary engineering for smartphones. An x86 could go for something more like a screen pen tablet, but then that brings the x86 problems with it) I doubt anyone is going to find it profitable for just DS/3DS emulation since while it's nice, it's relatively niche AND there's no new software coming out to entice new customers to the product. For most other retro handhelds, the form factor was close enough multiple devices could be replicated at once. For home console stuff, like retrons, they're providing the compute hardware primarily and not designing how to do inputs, as that's already handled and isn't screwed by people's expectation of new technology or manufacturers no longer making old tech for cheap due to no one buying it (which is probably where resistive touch screens are right now)
Hi there, I have a PC handheld gaming device called the Onexplayer Mini Pro, and the performance of the device was once fabulous. But after a few months, while I was playing the Resident Evil 4 remake, the device turned off suddenly without warning, and I restarted the device. It shows the BIOS, or Windows 11 operating system. How do I solve this recurring problem? I will be thankful to you.
Agreed. Been looking for the same answer to that question. My GF just got the 1195G7 version and that little button under the keyboard button is just a night mode(fan control). I wanted to use the OXP built in app for her device but it seems even after driver updates our best option is the Handheld Companion Software/App.
@@therealninjaftw3337 Yes, I've used the power control program from project sbc but I have seen some people say online their may be a way to install the onexplayer osd. It's very confusing but if you go on the discord for the onexplayer there's also a lot of info on there. Good luck we'll need it lol
Glad I'm not the only one who thought this. The reason the steam deck works with 40fps is because the screen can change to a 40hz display at that point. 40fps on a 60hz display, as you said, can cause unnecessary frame pacing issues.
I really appreciate the simple video titles without clickbaity phrases and the intro that goes straight to the point and respects my time. Thank you.
Aint nobody clickbaiting you 😂
Exactly. Unlike ETA Prime and Retrododo, RGC never fails to disappoint!
The 6800U is no joke. It's a little beast for emulation and PC gaming. I own the GPD Win Max 2. Ergonomically, it's not as comfortable as something like the Steam Deck but the Vita dpad, vita buttons, the native horizontal screen and physical keyboard and trackpad more than make up for it. Tons of utility.
@@Yoko.Kurama every handheld pc ever made can set TDP, just use software like Power Control Panel
Decisions Decisions. I love the idea of the WM2 because it can be your full time machine
Unless a manufacturer makes grips for the winmax 2, I can't see myself using one.
I just wanna say thank you for being so honest right at the beginning of the video. The device is absolutely out of my price range, but I was still curious to see how it would perform. Keep it up the great content of the channel!
Yep....this is what i call a "youtuber special" since only youtuners and people with large amounts of disposable income will purchase this.
@@ryecatcher25 or enthusiasts that do nothing else. I have a relatively modest income (less than 45k USD per year) and could afford this, but I would need it to be my only major purchase for the year, or maybe one of two major purchases. I wouldn't be able to get this AND support other hobbies. I also probably wouldn't be able to afford this if I had children or if I didn't have a roommate paying part of the rent.
@@ryecatcher25 Completely untrue.
1) I'll assume you're American, ya'll have this "We are the only people in the world." attitude.
2) The Steam Deck isn't available in the majority of the world, and importing one costs the same as these consoles. My AYANEO 2 cost the same as the Deck.
3) Entire communities are based around these handhelds with hundreds of thousands of fans, just because you're poor, doesn't mean we are.
4) It's not a budget device, it's not even claiming to be, Russ does however review devices from all different price brackets.
@@MarkGibbons bro 💀
@@MarkGibbons lol America really makes "ya'll" mad 😂. You're on an American platform, posting a comment on a channel of an American reviewer, mad about an American product, using American slang... you know you're right the world does revolve around us lmao
I have had this unit since launch and love it. Got the 32gb 2tb model and plays almost all my steam games and is an emulation beast.
God damn you all,My wallet laugh's as I Cry. I am Looking at the steam deck though.
Not a thing wrong with the steam deck, go for the $399 one and upgrade storage later.
I'm curious why you went for the top end? I get the storage, but 32GB of RAM for a gaming PC isn't going to help much (I say this as an owner of a personal gaming rig with 32GB of RAM, but got it for being able to have lots of things open at once AND for using part of it as cache for my HDDs using primocache. My custom NAS has 64GB for virtual machines and ZFS ARC).
I guess what I really mean to ask is if you're planning on doing a lot more with this thing than gaming? It's certainly capable. I'm not judging, just curious if there was more to it than grabbing the highest capacity version so you know you won't ever be bottlenecked by not having spent enough.
@@CreativityNull Returnal recommends 32 gb for the PC port, more games will start too.
@@BeamerTime354 no there isn't for most people, unless you really don't want to worry about opening your device.
Though, I'm kind of scared of Valve having the price that low because it's going to make good competition hard since Valve is definitely selling the Steam Deck nearly at cost in the hopes that they subsidize other costs associated with it (such as ongoing development and prior engineering) and profits with Steam software sales. Aya, OneX, Ayn, and others don't have this luxury and they're certainly not going to be able to build their own store to do this.
Just wanna say I've been binging your channel non stop for the past week, absolutely love the vids. Never knew handhelds like these even existed and now I'm addicted, I even ordered a gamesir x2 for my phone so I can play some retro games 😅
Welcome to the addiction 😂
I think the lack of a micro sd card is a no go for me.
the lack of upgradable storage really holds this back in my eyes.
Can’t you use a usb flash drive to expand the storage?
@@nytshyft then the usb drive will be protruding out of the usb port.
@@ryuno2097 yeah. But it’s an option if you want to expand the storage
@@nytshyft shouldn't even be an option at that price point
@@nytshyft That's a janky option if i'm being honest. Not saying playing games off a usb can't be done but on a mobile handled that be something i don't want to deal with.
I could get a Aya Neo and use a micro SD card on that, same with the steam deck.
This is definitely out of my price range and I'm very much still happy with my RG351V and Steam Deck for the time being, but I still enjoy your videos to see what's new in the industry. Thank you for doing what you do!
What are we supposed to do with this information 🤷🏾
@@mackw919 Digest it
@@mackw919don't read it
Steamdeck or onexplayer?
The battery analysis is quality. Thanks for an easy to look at and in depth analysis!
hey russ! I've been watching your videos for about 6 months now, and I really enjoy them. Your content is great and I hope you keep doing for a long time. Cheers
I'm a Steam Deck budget guy myself but can appreciate it for those than can afford it.
So I did a thing, I got this exact model on refurb for under $1200 CAD (on its way already) so I cannot wait to see what this beast does for me! Your reviews are great as always.
How was It?
This is my latest device, It's great bar the lack of micro sd slot and the analogue sticks that are a more like a switch size, other than those two moans, I'm enjoying it more than my steamdeck for sure. 9/10 device -0.5 for sticks -0.5 for no Micro SD slot.
I got the 32GB 2TB version a little over a month ago and am surprised how positive your review is. Mine has had constant quality control issues with the D-Pad constantly thinking I'm pushing buttons that I'm not, rumble happening randomly for no reason and then never stopping, and the sound card randomly only playing static noise for no reason. The device relies on turning off security issues to run OXP properly, and OXP asks for administrator privileges every time I start my machine. I'm pretty sure the audio device they used in it doesn't even have Windows 11 drivers, although that issue happened even after I downgraded to Windows 10. OXP support is largely unhelpful. It's a really dangerous buy due to their lack of quality control in my opinion.
It’s annoying when TH-cam reviewers don’t mention a brand’s long standing QC issues.
You get what you pay for with Chinese products. Lack of quality control. Their business doesn't revolve around helping their customers and making sure every device is fully functional
@@umamifan the deck isn’t much better, the only difference is people can rma it if needed
@@168original7 with 4-10 days wait for each reply from so called steam support and can easily ghost you if you keep contacting for quality control issues
Also I guess Valve building American devices made from American parts 😂😂
This is ridiculously niche. $1200 gets you a budget 3050 laptop and a base Steamdeck.
Not to mention shitty battery life at full power.
@@ryecatcher25 then don't use the 3050. Lmao. Said that shit like it was a valid criticism
well sir, they still exist and people still buy it, so i guess it’s niche for rich people, doesn’t mean it’s bad, most of us just too poor 😢
It can also get you a deposit on a house, but neither are related to this whatsoever lol
That’s a good perspective
21:20 The game shown is Super Mario 3D World, not Super Mario Odyssey. Though most people would know, just wanted to let Russ know there was a small error.
Few notes: - you can control rgb even in Batocera. Home buttom+vol down will change effect, holding down a few seconds will turn on/off rgb led.
- recent update to OXP Player Center added super cool feature that I didn't see anywhere else. Now it have systemwide fps limiter and TDP automode. Now you don't need to manually find "right" TDP for the games, system will change it itself on the fly to maintain specific fps.
Great notes, thanks!
@@RetroGameCorps can you do a guide on setting up windows based handhelds all the way up to switch like on a god win 4 etc.? This would be awesome!
note: the bottom slots near usb-c are for the dock, to help keep it in place.
no additional speakers on the bottom
Is that a Pedro the Lion shirt?! Amazing band. Thank you so much for your amazing content. I love your videos and the fact that they are so straightforward and packed with details. Thanks!
i hate when for marketing they use the word "hardcore" when what they mean is "expensive"
That RGB lighting on the side is too much fun! - Stubbs
There's so much to love about this one. But I play a lot of 2d platformers and I wish they'd go the route the Steam Deck went and make the d-pad and left analogue basically equal. This doesn't look as bad as most handheld PCs out there, and I know it makes the whole unit more bulky, but having a super comfortable d-pad position really makes gaming so much more enjoyable for me.
Btw those holes at the bottom are for the dock, not speaker holes.
I would LOVE a steam deck mini to go alongside my steam deck closer to Odin/rp3+ size since steamos is quickly becoming my favorite emulation frontend
Steam will eventually just make a smaller version. It might take a year(s) but it'll happen.
Because you don’t know how to operate anything 😂
On my PC I run stand-alone emulators smooth as butter on a baby’s bum. I don’t need retroarch and all those useless frontends because I do know how to operate systems lool
Will do the same when my Mini Pro arrives this month and will be smooth on there and run better than on steam deck - but that’s for my needs right
For me I pirate older games, some new ones too but those will remain for my PC or Series X. I ran emulation on series S and hated and never went back to it since I got my PC. But now it will be amazing for me to run my older games almost maxed out on smaller screen and my best emulator games on bigger screen than when they released.
In other words for me this like being a kid again hyped up for my PSP (I got daxter version) and playing all that nostalgia on a small screen again. That’s the biggest buy for me, and steam deck ruined that and pushed me to these expensive devices by making my purchase a hassle
Seeing your channel growth makes me happy
Keep up the good work
So many choices…so little dough. But if I have the money, this device, steamdeck and upcoming GKD win 4 should be on the mount rushmore
Not having sd card slot at this price is insanity
Im really liking the direction these handhelds are going in. The performance just isn't there for me to want to drop 1200-1500 on one quite yet, but I'm excited to see where we are in a few more years.
Did you buy the steam deck ?
@@CaptainGunSkill why is that relevant?
@@mortemincarnatam2836 why is what relevant?
daaamn I think the only way I could get a hold of one would be through testing, but damn I would love to fiddle the heck out of it.
Thanks!
Hi Russ, will you be getting the GPD Win 4 for review? It would be great to hear opinion from someone who really knows what handheld gamers really looks for. Wanted to know if it got your 'seal of approval' before i decide.
I didn't see you mention it, (and considering your other content I understand why you probably didn't think about it since you focus more on handheld devices and retro gaming in general than PC gaming specifically) but I wonder how much better the battery life could be without sacrificing some clarity if you could use AMD's FSR. Theoretically this device should be capable of it, and it's one of the ways I use on my Steam Deck to help increase battery life without sacrificing visuals too much. I saw it wasn't a built in option on the quick menu for the OneX like it is in the Steam Deck, but you should be able to get it running on the device. Maybe it could be added to the quick menu later.
Heeyyy Pedro the Lion Winners Never Quit. One of my favorite albums back in highschool. David Bazaan has some really great recent work too, he's such a good story teller.
Please continue testing Destiny 2 on these devices. It’s greatly appreciated, since you are about the only handheld reviewer who does it 🙂
I love these handheld PCs so much! They’re the best thing we’ve ever had imo!
Absolutely awesome battery life for your Celeste template. So exciting to think how quickly these APUs are getting to crazy levels of efficiency!
Hardcore gamers or not, I hope at the end of the day, everybody is happy with their choice of handheld PC, regardless of brands
This is the best take. Unfortunately due to FOMO and the accelerating rate of newer tech coming out, people will seemingly never be satisfied with their choice. You know how the saying goes. "Comparison is the thief of joy" or something like that
I got gpd win 3 on sale , it is same kind of device like this and I can say these handhelds are pretty good. It's portable, smaller than any laptop, ready to play any games with controller (with laptop you need to bring separate controller).
Compare to Steam Deck, you can use as a window laptop for work too. Specs is better than steam deck. Especially if you somehow get hacked games, you can also play them. You can even play upcoming diablo 4 or world of warcraft, lost ark, and fifa 23
Oh wow. That software for changing tdp, fan speed, and resolution really has my attention. I think at this point I would want to wait for the OneXPlayer 2 for the larger screen and likely better price if I jump on the launch day deals. And here I thought Aya Neo had the best software. Jokes on me I guess.
The new model detaches the controls like the Nintendo switch and larger screen . Eta prime did a early hands on of it a few days ago .
Ayaspace can do the same things, but the OXP ui is cleaner imo
I did find ETA Primes video. I’m definitely getting on board for that model. Looks very promising. Plus it looks awesome in white. 🤤
If they deliver on time that is. Only reason I’m going for Mini Pro is due to most recent devices not being fulfilled as promised.
Great video and review as usual, Russ! I do like the sound of this device, but no micro SD slot and a weak D-pad are kind of a dealbreaker for me. I like having extra external storage of a micro SD. Also, I probably would want to play some older 2D games and would want a solid D-pad without risk of a missed input. Other than those few issues, that seems like a great handheld gaming device!
Though, I have a Steam Deck being delivered this week, so I'm pretty much all set for gaming devices for now.
Excellent perspective, as always. I really appreciate the diplomatic expectation-setting at the very top of the video. The specter of the Steam Deck looms large over these devices, the ever-present oddity of an outlier (as in hardware subsidized by software sales) almost single-handedly redefining the market for handheld PCs, but it’s not the only game in town. While I’m quite content with my Steam Deck, I love seeing what others are doing in the space and how other gamers might respond differently with their own wallets. The lack of micro SD, however, seems a head scratchingly glaring omission.
Honestly I'm wondering if I should have saved up and gotten one of the other options with the 6800u later, but I can't say I really regret my decision because I have questions about long term support for these other products like the OneXPlayer her and the Aya Neo. Valve is a more established company (with probably deeper pockets) and can afford to support the device both in repair (and to my knowledge none of these other companies are providing replacement parts, though they might and I missed it) and in software updates (my steam Link hardware STILL receives updates even though they stopped selling them several years ago) and their track record in support so far has been phenomenal. I'm not saying these other companies can't or won't compete in terms of support, but they don't have the track record Valve has and are therefore more of a gamble.
While I might miss out on things like a little better performance, a little better battery life, and a much better screen, I'm not sure if it would be worth the trade to make a gamble on support. I already had to have my steam deck repaired because it fell off my table and broke the shoulder button, but Valve support was great about it (I have heard of someone not having a great experience with Valve support on a broken trigger, but I didn't get a lot of details about the situation) I also knew the support would probably be good going into the purchase in October after hearing about the opening of repair depots, the parts being sold on ifixit (unfortunately the button board I needed to fix my bumper was not on ifixit or else I would have done it myself and I wasn't sure what momentary switch to get as a replacement to solder on) as well as how quickly software updates that fixed major problems were being produced.
@@CreativityNull agreed-another aspect of how Valve is redefining this space. While I don’t have any experience with the other vendors in the handheld gaming PC arena, one always reads horror stories involving smaller companies and getting lost in lack of support situations. While other companies may not be able to compete on the subsidy front, they would do well to structure their business models on the best possible customer experience-before, during, and after sale. I think this speaks to a larger void in most modern consumer goods, though, as we are ever shifting to this more “crowdfunded,” almost knee-jerk kind of economy where items and trends tend to feel a bit more fly by night, no? That’s not to say that this device (or any other) is doomed to be poor quality, just that the sense of investment in customer care seems a long lost relic of a time long, long ago. (Says the 42 year old who remembers a slightly different situation “not long ago.”)
Most people hate the steam deck I'm one of them
@@mackw919 I've heard people talk about problems with the steamdeck (like battery life, the screen, and other aspects) but I've never seen outright disdain for the product and even the people that point that out are usually giving it as a caveat to what they believe to be an otherwise good product.
@@mackw919 nah, just you mate
top of the line review, thanks!
I love the idea of a windows tablet that had attachable gamepads!!!
The upcoming version detaches like the switch
quick update for late 2024 viewers. as of this comment, the mini pro is refreshed with the ryzen 7840u 32gb ram and a minimum of 512gb storage for $650 (sale price)
I got one
I can’t find it in their page
Which one should i buy, the Onexplayer, Onexplayer 1S or Onexplayer mini ?
Obviously glad you're a Grin Dawn fan. 👍
Great review! I was thinking about buying one of these OneXplayer mini Pro, but after seeing how well people liked the Steam Deck that's what I went with.. The price also ended up being a factor in my decision, I got the $400 SD and bought a Micron 1TB drive ($230) and put in myself.
You basically paid 650 and try to say you got a budget device 😂😂😂
@@mackw919 the mini pro is alst double that price so yeah it's budget by comparison.
Dont do it this is the worst company to buy from, I have one net devices a lot of their stuff comes broken and if not that the other thing which reviewers dont tell you is that unlike GPD/AYA/DECK once the batteries dies you cant use the system just on power alone. Good luck finding shipping batteries. They purposely do this cuz at most you can use these batteries for 22 to 30 months unplugged before they are done. These arent 3ds/vita batteries. They are junk.
$630 Steam Deck 1, plus $5-80 per steam game, in 2/3 after 2023 buys new steam deck 2 for $500 (most likely won’t be) plus more expansion (SD or SSD) means total cost over 4 years = $1200 PLUS
$1200 in 2023, 2-3 years later still strong, will be still stronger or equally as strong or slightly weaker than steam deck 2 (basically SD position now) while running basically all pirated steam game and destroys emulations after 4 years = saved more than steam deck spending $1200 from the start 😂😂
It’s like my $4000 tv from 2016 all 2023 models have over mine is OS updates, maybe an OLED panel (more money) or Dolby atmos which most people barely use and comparing to my buddies 2k atmos system my 2014 surround system sounds better... sure people called me stupid back then but my 4k tv had all the HDR and other specs TVs have now. VRR maybe not but does 24/30/60hz which most TVs don’t do 24hz making movies feel like soap operas. And the consoles that do VRR are not true 4K lol = aka I future proof while those with $500 1080p people will constantly be upgrading to get the features in future devices while I continue to use them lol - FYI my tv first model for those “crystal LEDs” too hahaha
One thing i wish these handheld pc companies would include, is a "no battery" mode so that it can draw power directly from the wall instead of using the battery at all. Most of the time when i play on these handheld pcs, im directly plugged into my usb charger like i would be my desktop. It seems like such a simple fix.
Unplug battery?
i wish more handhelds would also feature trackpads, like the steam deck. Its just soo much better to nagivate the os compared to the joysticks.
Especially on the windows devices. On the steam deck they feel superfluous if you're not doing anything with it besides treating it like a gaming console (like the switch). Except for typing on the onscreen keyboard. Weirdly the dual track pads feel way better than trying to tap the key on the screen.
For the price these hand-helds are worth I would like to start seeing more with bezel-less screens and with symmetrical joysticks.
The steam deck definitely has an edge when you consider what the thing can do for the pricetag. Availability wise though steam is shooting themselves in the foot. With handhelds like this rolling out the door while steam deck is still unavailable to even reserve in a lot of places around the world, steam's risking the deck becoming obsolete before it gets a real chance to hit some decent sales numbers.
I agree to an extent but if Valve releases a upgraded Steam Deck 2 it will alienate their current customers and those who are waiting for the Steam Deck in other regions will just wait for the updated version which will hurt their sales.
Plus these more powerful devices are just too expensive for the average customer, so I believe the Steam Deck will be fine for now.
I'm pretty sure the steam deck can have such a low cost is because valve can afford it since there not making money off of it
lol nope
Price is crazy. I would expect more when you compare the steam deck price.
That’s because the steam deck is being under sold… adjust your expectations bro
great review! I hope you'll get to review/compare it with the GPD Win 4!
Can it run windows and excel and basic Microsoft office products?
Also I do not understand why the manufactures do not add HAL effect sensors on triggers AND sticks, instead of just one or the other. And why is OLED ALWAYS missing from the high end devices. The HAL effect sensors are important, game controllers tend to have either the stick or triggers start to go back with in 2 years. Its shitty to have that go bad on mobile gaming device as it ruins the entire device not just a controller.
Depends on the device. Steam Deck has the sticks and trigger electronics on separate daughter boards from the main board so they can be easily replaced (relatively easy at least.)
As for why they don't put them on, I have no idea. Especially with the triggers. The hall effect joy sticks might be relatively expensive to source, but the Xbox one (and series) controllers use hall effect triggers. Someone's gotta be making those affordable.
OLED is probably missing because of either the margins that the companies are working with is already so thin, so they couldn't afford to slap it on, or that they think IPS LCD is superior in this use case. And yeah, I don't understand why it's either or when it comes to the hall sensors... I'm guessing they only do it for one or the other just so they can say "Hey look! We got HALL EFFECT SENSORS!!! BUY OUR PRODUCT!"
19:59 Russ, how did you get this NS red shirt on Link?
it's DLC
I own this and the biggest let down is the analog sticks not full range
Thank you for your honest review. What lost my interest was no micro ssd
Honestly, while having properly upgradable (i.e. 2280 slot, not 2230) storage is great, the lack of a micro SD card slot kills it as a handheld well before you factor in the price (which double kills it for me).
And frankly, trying to sell this as a gaming PC would be absolutely asinine. The only thing that makes this a gaming device at all is that it's a handheld. As a gaming PC, at the price point its pushing for, it falls flat on its face. Calling it a Gaming PC is in a way de-emphasizing the handheld aspect and selling it in its docked form, which is dumb. In its docked desktop form it is nowhere near a gaming PC in terms of specs and gets crushed by its competition. For the price ($1200-1300USD), remember, we're ignoring the handheld aspect, I could literally get a 3070 Ti laptop.
The benefits of these handhelds is that they are chiefly gaming handhelds that can also function as a basic PC on the side.
Which 3070 ti laptop is 1200?
Why is this so similar to the Aokzoe A1?? From the hardware cues to the software overlay I was getting serious deja vu...
I'd love to see a video where you give a guide on how to set up the perfect emulation platform on x86 handhelds outside of the steam deck, like a lot of these systems are starting to run Windows 11 and while they have have holoiso installed on them to mimic the steamdeck OS nearly perfectly, I'd like to take advantage of the fact that it has windows on it but still enjoy the emulation freedom that comes with having an overall stronger platform than the steamdeck. I know I can just download Yuzu and Cemu, etc seperately and call it a day but is there something akin to EmuDeck for x86 handheld systems that I'm not aware of where its' a singular program I download and sets up a majority of the settings for me on their own?
Just use emulation station… that’s all emudeck is anyway
Why do they keep putting 1080/1200p screens on these portable consoles? 720/800p would be perfectly enough for a 5.5-8 inch screen.
What about the fan noise?
I like the idea but it can't beat the SD in price per performance. The GPD Win 4 is more interesting as it has a physical keyboard and some little "trackpads" for mouse control even if I don't know yet how well the work in comparison to the Steam Deck.
Does the 6800U draw more power at the low end as 6W for something like Celeste sounds much when on the SD something like Stardew Valley and even DOSBox (M&M World of Xeen, Doom 2 etc) draw between 2.8 and 4W? On the SD using Win10 + Steam Deck Tools runs the Celeste at 60fps with a power draw of around 3W (limit set to 4W, wattage reading with Rivatuner).
Also the RGB LED strips are over the top and I would turn them off all of the time.
40fps is the only frame rate I care about with handhelds. Locked 40 is perfect
40 is so much better than 30 but 43 starts to click something in my brain.
I wonder if putting some tiny amount of grip tape on the dpad would help, it just looks slippery.
Interesting how you mentioned that this dpad is not great for precision platformers, but to me they are perfect for that. Unlike those rounded ones or very small cross dpads from Ayaneo.
Is there no option for the RGB to be more like Ambilight? To get it more immersive ?
Great review!
How do games like WWE 2K22, Madden 23 and NBA 2K23 run on this? I like to have my sports games on the go and don't want to have to sit in front of a tv. Is NBA 2K the next gen version or previous gen version of the game on this beast of a machine?
Thanks Ross, will you please test it as well with some external GPU and on dock mode? Also does it get hot when playing or fan noise is too much or not.
Ayyyyyyyyy I got a cameo in this one!
is the ram upgradable in this unit? how does it compare to the rog ally and legion go?
Are launcher games included un one x player???epic games,ea games,steam....?????or you hace to install them from Windows??
Is it possible to do a quick comparison to ayaneo2. I got the original onex-1 and was not completely happy with it,. The d-pad was one issue. The inability to boot from sd-card was another. The flaky power/reset/boot thing was the third.
So I own this model of One X Player (32/2tb/6800), and got into the video (good job) to see what the front end being used, and how do I get that on mine?
Would it be possible to get a comparison video between this and the GPD Win 4?
watching this make me appreciate the steam deck even more. basically same performance at less than half the price. a little bit lower resolution though, but i dont think it matters much with at this screen size.
Definitely not same performance but ok.
Plz tell me you also got the OXP 2, your reviews are the best hands down.
It looks much better than the ayaneo 2, but Idk if I'd trust them with my money.
The quick menu is so smart
I think when your video use your face is more profesional entertainment... Keep it up dude
Where did you get those awesome pillows?
Can you please 🙏 help me figure out how to get the game Scum to work on this? It loads but only shows half the screen
Let me clarify this all to everyone. So despite the fact it is rocking a 6800u. Onexplayer, is lacking in the button department. Trust me when I tell you! You're going to need extra buttons. This is where the steam deck shines. It has plenty of buttons, software to back it up. Solid hardware, and unbeatable price. Now I asked myself this question. Why would anyone invest their money? On a handheld PC. that lacks on everything I just said.
You just that it yourself - it has 6800u. Some people just care about performance. I think Steam deck is a better device, but there are also reasons to get competing devices.
@@TheWWWyrm I'm going to tell you. that if you lack buttons. You're going to have a bad performance experience. I was one that was going to invest getting GPD win 4 but. I started to think I was going to regret it.
What is the best 6800u handheld in the market? I can't decide which has the best ergonomics, screen, and value.
I want to use it for indies and emulations
Very nice review, as always 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼.
I have a question:
Maybe you could do a poll here on TH-cam to see how many people would be interested in a dual screen emulation device with stylus (primarily to play Nintendo DS games, but of course also for all the other games)? I myself have been dreaming of such a handheld for a long time, and I wonder if other people feel the same way. I think this could be a real gap in the market for Anbernic and all the other manufacturers. Because let's face it, there's no third-party device that makes playing DS titles feel right. And that's really a shame, because the Nintendo DS library in particular impresses with a lots of incredibly good games.
I've seen some cool things software devs have done for DS and 3DS emulation on the Samsung Galaxy Z Fold, but so far that's been the only real thing toward it I've been able to find. Getting a $1200+ USD android smartphone, especially if you usually get iphones or usually spend less than half of that on a smartphone, isn't really what I'd call a good option if all you really want is to have better DS/3DS emulation.
@@CreativityNull But that would not be a good solution in general. A handheld needs buttons to be fun to play with. And besides, a stylus would be missing. That wouldn't be a good alternative to a proper third-party device.
@@-dAtA-TRoN- The stylus is not missing on the Galaxy Z Fold. They're all capable of using Samsung's S-Pen. You could also plugin something like the Gamesir X2 and have buttons. I didn't mention this earlier because external controllers are pretty common for Android emulator users and S-Pen support is pretty highly marketed on the Fold and is also on the spec sheet.
Besides, nothing is stopping you from using another capacitive stylus in place of your finger. The DS stylus was just a chunk of plastic used on a resistive touch screen.
@@CreativityNull Yes, would still not be the same as having a "third-party DS". The stylus thing is pretty good, but I don't want to lug around a controller attachment all the time. I understand what you're saying, that one could already play DS roms quite well, but a real device for it would still be unbeatable.
@@-dAtA-TRoN- I mean, I never said it was a perfect solution, it's just workable if you already have this phone. As for "having to lug a controller" I disagree. Especially since a lot of them are compact, like the Gamesir X2. You're already probably carrying a phone and getting a handheld device would be phone plus handheld device. How is that different than phone plus controller as far as carrying things around goes?
I mean, I'm not saying this is much of a solution for other reasons that I already mentioned, but the reasons you're bringing against it are kind of nonsensical.
Now would a DS like piece of hardware be nice? Absolutely, but between the hardware and software requirements (like requiring a different stylus solution since no one would find a resistive touch panel acceptable these days and a big capacitive stylus would probably obscure too much of the screen. To my knowledge the only good stylus solution for Android has been the S-pen and I doubt Samsung is sharing their proprietary engineering for smartphones. An x86 could go for something more like a screen pen tablet, but then that brings the x86 problems with it) I doubt anyone is going to find it profitable for just DS/3DS emulation since while it's nice, it's relatively niche AND there's no new software coming out to entice new customers to the product. For most other retro handhelds, the form factor was close enough multiple devices could be replicated at once. For home console stuff, like retrons, they're providing the compute hardware primarily and not designing how to do inputs, as that's already handled and isn't screwed by people's expectation of new technology or manufacturers no longer making old tech for cheap due to no one buying it (which is probably where resistive touch screens are right now)
Hi there, I have a PC handheld gaming device called the Onexplayer Mini Pro, and the performance of the device was once fabulous. But after a few months, while I was playing the Resident Evil 4 remake, the device turned off suddenly without warning, and I restarted the device. It shows the BIOS, or Windows 11 operating system. How do I solve this recurring problem? I will be thankful to you.
Can we get an update on this? Price cut in half
I was wondering when you were going to review this!?
does the micro sd using usbc or usba work on the onexplayer mini?
Is there anyway to get that quick menu on the intel variant 1195?
Agreed. Been looking for the same answer to that question. My GF just got the 1195G7 version and that little button under the keyboard button is just a night mode(fan control).
I wanted to use the OXP built in app for her device but it seems even after driver updates our best option is the Handheld Companion Software/App.
@@therealninjaftw3337 Yes, I've used the power control program from project sbc but I have seen some people say online their may be a way to install the onexplayer osd. It's very confusing but if you go on the discord for the onexplayer there's also a lot of info on there. Good luck we'll need it lol
Looking so good 👍🏽 😍
Me, checking This One on its site:-"Ouch!!"
I don't understand using a 40fps cap on a 60hz display... frame pacing won't be correct! The best is to aim at 60fps or to accept 30fps
Glad I'm not the only one who thought this. The reason the steam deck works with 40fps is because the screen can change to a 40hz display at that point. 40fps on a 60hz display, as you said, can cause unnecessary frame pacing issues.
That's a nice thumbnail dude.
What’s the best handheld for fighting games
Which do you prefer ? Onex or steamdeck ?
Onex
Dose it come with any games included?
usb4 is thunderbolt 3. not tb4
Make a video about optimize settings
in best games you can play
Thanks for the video.
Does it emulate Wipeout HD Fury at 60 FPS? if so Imay buy one