Love it. That's the holy Grill of the Tyco engines I believe been trying to get my hands on one I've got the Silver Streak. Absolutely perfect video as for parts Your Best Bets to use another locomotive for them . Just the horns alone on eBay or 7 Bucks keep up the great work.
It's definitely no steal however I thought I should let you know I found one in this lot www.ebay.ca/itm/Lot-of-Bachmann-Tyco-Engine-lot-Golden-Eagle-Amtrak-Chessie-System-Untested-HO/232843006837?hash=item3636865375%3Ag%3A9oYAAOSw30JbIofD&_sacat=0&_nkw=tyco+golden+eagle&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1311.R1.TR1.TRC0.A0.H0.Xtyco+golden+.TRS0
Man I miss the old fashioned hobby shops. nobody carries model trains and accessories around me anymore. Love watching your videos, makes me break out my old trains and start working on my layout again. Thanks for the videos Scrump
I couldn't agree more, the hobby is changing in unusual ways.I have reverted back to dc simply because dcc is becoming too expensive and to be honest I don't even enjoy it much more, I try to shop at classic hobby shops over the internet and don't buy much high end, brand new in the box stuff. It makes me so happy to hear about people like you coming back to the hobby, I just hope we can all get the hobby on a simpler, more cost effective road.
Great job getting rid of that annoying squeal! I have an older Spirit of '76 (I believe it's a Tyco) making the same noise. I'll have to get at it and bring it back to life. Now I know how... Thanks Harrison.
For the comm resurfacing, I did a Bachmann trolley with the similar motor (the old white case). I measured it's starting voltage at 7.5 volts, so it had jack rabbit starts. I chucked mine in the drill as you did and started turning it against 400-grit (wet-or-dry paper). I then increased the grit to 600, then 1000, then 1600. It completely got rid of the "waffle weave" pattern from the underlying circuit board substrate. On assembly, the starting voltage dropped to 2.5 volts and gave me excellent low-speed control.
IIRC the Golden Eagle came out in 76 or 77. That was my indicator that Tyco had let quality go to crap ( Lionel supposedly had a similar issue at the time) as I got the GE for my brother for Christmas and played with it like a kid would and the loco was dead by Memorial Day
I had Tyco in the very early 1980s and i had one that was a steamer. It literally caught fire on my dads layout!!! They had HORRIBLE quality back then. I ended up going to Athearn and Atlas by the mid 80s and tossed my Tco stuff in the junk... Bachmann back then was just as bad...
@Gary the Golden Eagle was only offered in the 1980 TYCO catalogue. TYCO went to crap around 1970 when the Tyler family sold it on to Consolidated Foods and the new owners switched manufacture to Hong Kong. The PowerTorque motor was the result, and you know the rest.
Those old Tyco Silver Streak and Golden Eagle locos were pretty cool looking if not completely authentic and detailed models of the locos they were patterned after. I found a Tyco Silver Streak loco at an antiques emporium for cheap last year and unfortunately it turned out to be a non-runner..as in completely dead. So I removed the motor and turned it into dummy non-powered rolling stock. It still looks cool in my setup however had I found these videos about repairing old model locos at the time I might have been able to resurrect it.
great job. I am sure i would have had parts left over. lol. truck detail is a must for that one, hand rails, well can live with out them for a bit. as far as parts.. see if you can find a second one that don't work at all. and rob peter to fix paul.
Holy crap as of today my midnight special engine just had a wiring issue and will need to have wires resoldered in order for it to work. Be careful with the trucks on those tyco engines when taking them out. i learned my lesson -Kevin Jenner
You did an outstanding refurbishing job! The more I look at some of your Tyco engines the more I'm thing of picking up one to convert to battery powered. There's room inside for the receiver, decoder and a battery pack (I think). do you have any kind of DCC system at all even the Bachmann one would work? Let me know. As always thanks for sharing all your finds and refurbishing videos. Chuck RVRR
Well you could probably buy a wireless rc car battery and controller and of corse controll board and set that up. a few things you would have to make sure of is that the battery isn't higher then 16 volts and that the board out puts dc current not ac current
I actually had this set brand new as a youth. I was always annoyed that there were no rails around it at all, when there are clearly holes to attach them to.
I have a question. I was following your step-by-step to restoring and cleaning this engine as your video shows. When I got to resurfacing the little motor plate that spins I saw there was two little tiny what looks like a magnets do they do anything And where should they go if they are needed thanks
SMT Mainline, ok, so I just got an eBay Alco 630 Santa Fe, with Power Torque and reversing headlights - same engine as the Golden Eagle. Got it running on a circle track for 5 min then- it stopped -revving and glowing brightly, but not going anywhere - it’s as if it’s stuck in neutral! No cars on it, revs high fwd and rev. I can see that the gear wheels aren’t engaging. I’m guessing the drive shaft is probably just spinning in there and not grabbing onto the drive gear? Edit: fixed it! The ‘nut’ on the drive shaft just needed to be pushed inboard to engage the gear
I gut the motors and replace them with CD ROM motors. Very little modification and the tiny pinion gear is a drop in fit. They have an interesting almost flywheel effect.
Resurrection is the term you should use on these videos since you brought it back from dying or death. Restoration would mean you restored it both electrically and cosmetically to factory spec with all the trick plates, hand rails, etc.
Most of the 1976-1982 Six-Axle Power Torque locomotives will have the same motor and side frames. These would be the Tyco E-7 ( 4 road names), the Tyco GG1 (5 paint variations), and the C-630 (1977-1980, Golden Eagle, ICG, and Santa Fe) The sideframes are jokingly nicknamed "vampire trucks" because of their fang-like appearance from the side view. The Tyco SD-24 (4 roadnames) has the same motor block, but more authentic EMD Flexicoil side frames (also more fragile) Your Baldwin Sharknose has the 1st generation Tyco Powertorque drive but with yard-type ARA side frames. This 1st gen. motor has poor ventilaton and tends to overheat more often than the 77-82 Powertorque motors, and often has the oddball 1-screw coverplate on the bottom. All of the Powertorque diesel motors will interchange between the different Tyco Powertorque diesel locomotives. This can come in handy when you have a nice shell and want to put a better motor in it!
I have restored and resold dozens of them, and have more that are awaiting restoration. If you would like some projects, I can send you a few if you are interested. There are also some vids out there that show how to replace the 3-pole pancake armature with small motors from computer CD-ROM drives, but I haven't gotten that ambitious yet. However, if you want to make a Powertorque motor isolated for DCC conversion, that would be the way to go! Most of my restorations are with factory parts I have scavenged over the past 4 decades, with the aim of restoring the original construction as close as possible. I have a limited amount of modern DCC locomotives, but probably no more than 10 or so. I have no room for a layout currently, so my collection lives on shelves in plastic and cardboard boxes :( Sometimes I clear off desk space and do some restoration projects using a 3' flex track for testing.
I noted you did not apply any lubricant to the gear teeth - such as Labelle Teflon Plastic-Safe Grease. Did you find greasing the gears causes problems, or are the gears made of a self-lubricating plastic? Delrin plastic used for trucks is a self-lubricating plastic.
The amount of friction between binding gears is so minimal that adding lubricant would actually increase stress on the motor by causing it to move more fluid around. I have never heard of "Self-lubricating plastic" however some plastics are extremely low resistance to the point where they don't really need to be lubricated, so Self-lubricating sounds to me like another word for, "We made the plastic smooth enough that it doesn't require lubricant"
Does anyone know where to buy the tires (oring) that go on the wheels of the Golden Eagle, to give it traction? The train has been in storage for over 30 years and is working, only the tires are missing.
Alguien sabe dónde comprar las gomas (oring) que van en las ruedas de la Golden Eagle, para darle tracción? El tren ha estado guardado más de 30 años y está funcionando, sólo que le faltan las gomas a las ruedas.
Blaxland Ridge3 I remember that squeaky sound well. The vast majority of the TYCO'S I used to run I retired them! 2 only survived GP 9 or GP 20 ATSF without the side railings I need parts as well. 😐
I got a Chattanooga 0-8-0 steam locomotive lights working but don't want to turn over it was turning over but poorly before I took it apart and and cleaned it now it don't want to turn over but the light is working on it can you please send me a video on how to clean a Chattanooga 080 steam locomotive please
Scrumptious Model Trains A few. There's the steam railroading institute, the huckleberry railroad, they have the only running k-27 narrow gauge steam locomotive. And there's the Michigan Ausable valley R.R a quarter gauge railroad thats only 6 US dollars a ticket. If you have a gmail I can send you some video clips and photographs of The Huckleberry and Ausable Valley.
Resurrection is the term you should use on these videos since you brought it back from dying or death. Restoration would mean you restored it both electrically and cosmetically to factory spec with all the trick plates, hand rails, etc.
Love it. That's the holy Grill of the Tyco engines I believe been trying to get my hands on one I've got the Silver Streak. Absolutely perfect video as for parts Your Best Bets to use another locomotive for them . Just the horns alone on eBay or 7 Bucks keep up the great work.
It's definitely no steal however I thought I should let you know I found one in this lot www.ebay.ca/itm/Lot-of-Bachmann-Tyco-Engine-lot-Golden-Eagle-Amtrak-Chessie-System-Untested-HO/232843006837?hash=item3636865375%3Ag%3A9oYAAOSw30JbIofD&_sacat=0&_nkw=tyco+golden+eagle&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1311.R1.TR1.TRC0.A0.H0.Xtyco+golden+.TRS0
Scrumptious Model Trains awesome thank you for taking the time I'm going to see what I can do
I finally located one and have it on its way with caboose
Man I miss the old fashioned hobby shops. nobody carries model trains and accessories around me anymore. Love watching your videos, makes me break out my old trains and start working on my layout again. Thanks for the videos Scrump
I couldn't agree more, the hobby is changing in unusual ways.I have reverted back to dc simply because dcc is becoming too expensive and to be honest I don't even enjoy it much more, I try to shop at classic hobby shops over the internet and don't buy much high end, brand new in the box stuff. It makes me so happy to hear about people like you coming back to the hobby, I just hope we can all get the hobby on a simpler, more cost effective road.
I have one of those and now i know how to get in to the moter! thank you scrump!!!
Great job getting rid of that annoying squeal! I have an older Spirit of '76 (I believe it's a Tyco) making the same noise. I'll have to get at it and bring it back to life. Now I know how... Thanks Harrison.
For the comm resurfacing, I did a Bachmann trolley with the similar motor (the old white case). I measured it's starting voltage at 7.5 volts, so it had jack rabbit starts.
I chucked mine in the drill as you did and started turning it against 400-grit (wet-or-dry paper). I then increased the grit to 600, then 1000, then 1600. It completely got rid of the "waffle weave" pattern from the underlying circuit board substrate. On assembly, the starting voltage dropped to 2.5 volts and gave me excellent low-speed control.
I had this train set. I miss it so much. Thanks for posting this incredible video!
I really like how you polished up the commutator! I will try that way in the future.
MAN THAT MADE SUCH A DIFFERENCE!!! Keep up the good work!
Glad I found this video I was given the Illinois Central version years ago and haven’t touched it because it ran exactly like this
Nice restoration I really like those old Tyco Locomotives.
You are very knowledgeable and very thorough and yes grease attracts dirtt,lint and, and everything else. Have you worked any lionel Ho locomotives?
Good repair job. I enjoyed watching.
Back in the 80s we called them "power junk".....
If there was truth in marketing, it should have been called the CheapNasty.
IIRC the Golden Eagle came out in 76 or 77.
That was my indicator that Tyco had let quality go to crap ( Lionel supposedly had a similar issue at the time) as I got the GE for my brother for Christmas and played with it like a kid would and the loco was dead by Memorial Day
I had Tyco in the very early 1980s and i had one that was a steamer. It literally caught fire on my dads layout!!! They had HORRIBLE quality back then. I ended up going to Athearn and Atlas by the mid 80s and tossed my Tco stuff in the junk... Bachmann back then was just as bad...
@Gary the Golden Eagle was only offered in the 1980 TYCO catalogue. TYCO went to crap around 1970 when the Tyler family sold it on to Consolidated Foods and the new owners switched manufacture to Hong Kong. The PowerTorque motor was the result, and you know the rest.
Very talented!
Those old Tyco Silver Streak and Golden Eagle locos were pretty cool looking if not completely authentic and detailed models of the locos they were patterned after. I found a Tyco Silver Streak loco at an antiques emporium for cheap last year and unfortunately it turned out to be a non-runner..as in completely dead. So I removed the motor and turned it into dummy non-powered rolling stock. It still looks cool in my setup however had I found these videos about repairing old model locos at the time I might have been able to resurrect it.
great job. I am sure i would have had parts left over. lol. truck detail is a must for that one, hand rails, well can live with out them for a bit. as far as parts.. see if you can find a second one that don't work at all. and rob peter to fix paul.
Really Enjoyed Watching Thanks For Uploading
Holy crap as of today my midnight special engine just had a wiring issue and will need to have wires resoldered in order for it to work. Be careful with the trucks on those tyco engines when taking them out. i learned my lesson
-Kevin Jenner
That's unfortunate
You did an outstanding refurbishing job! The more I look at some of your Tyco engines the more I'm thing of picking up one to convert to battery powered. There's room inside for the receiver, decoder and a battery pack (I think). do you have any kind of DCC system at all even the Bachmann one would work? Let me know. As always thanks for sharing all your finds and refurbishing videos. Chuck RVRR
Well you could probably buy a wireless rc car battery and controller and of corse controll board and set that up. a few things you would have to make sure of is that the battery isn't higher then 16 volts and that the board out puts dc current not ac current
Scrumptious Model Trains I already have everything for two engines, stuff made for model trains I did a video on one I built last year :)
River Valley Railroad Oh
I actually had this set brand new as a youth. I was always annoyed that there were no rails around it at all, when there are clearly holes to attach them to.
On wheels that are really filthy can you disassemble and put into a bath of rubbing alcohol and let soak? Or will that damage pieces?
I have a question. I was following your step-by-step to restoring and cleaning this engine as your video shows. When I got to resurfacing the little motor plate that spins I saw there was two little tiny what looks like a magnets do they do anything And where should they go if they are needed thanks
Great restoration definitely better that what it was
I've got 5 silver streaks. I want that golden eagle
SMT Mainline, ok, so I just got an eBay Alco 630 Santa Fe, with Power Torque and reversing headlights - same engine as the Golden Eagle. Got it running on a circle track for 5 min then- it stopped -revving and glowing brightly, but not going anywhere - it’s as if it’s stuck in neutral! No cars on it, revs high fwd and rev. I can see that the gear wheels aren’t engaging. I’m guessing the drive shaft is probably just spinning in there and not grabbing onto the drive gear? Edit: fixed it! The ‘nut’ on the drive shaft just needed to be pushed inboard to engage the gear
I gut the motors and replace them with CD ROM motors. Very little modification and the tiny pinion gear is a drop in fit. They have an interesting almost flywheel effect.
Do you have all the proper repair parts ?
I have a lot more now being this was filmed six years ago.
Resurrection is the term you should use on these videos since you brought it back from dying or death. Restoration would mean you restored it both electrically and cosmetically to factory spec with all the trick plates, hand rails, etc.
Most of the 1976-1982 Six-Axle Power Torque locomotives will have the same motor and side frames. These would be the Tyco E-7 ( 4 road names), the Tyco GG1 (5 paint variations), and the C-630 (1977-1980, Golden Eagle, ICG, and Santa Fe) The sideframes are jokingly nicknamed "vampire trucks" because of their fang-like appearance from the side view. The Tyco SD-24 (4 roadnames) has the same motor block, but more authentic EMD Flexicoil side frames (also more fragile) Your Baldwin Sharknose has the 1st generation Tyco Powertorque drive but with yard-type ARA side frames. This 1st gen. motor has poor ventilaton and tends to overheat more often than the 77-82 Powertorque motors, and often has the oddball 1-screw coverplate on the bottom. All of the Powertorque diesel motors will interchange between the different Tyco Powertorque diesel locomotives. This can come in handy when you have a nice shell and want to put a better motor in it!
Amazing, thanks for all the information. You're clearly extremely knowledgeable on these tyco locomotives, do you have any history working with them?
I have restored and resold dozens of them, and have more that are awaiting restoration. If you would like some projects, I can send you a few if you are interested. There are also some vids out there that show how to replace the 3-pole pancake armature with small motors from computer CD-ROM drives, but I haven't gotten that ambitious yet. However, if you want to make a Powertorque motor isolated for DCC conversion, that would be the way to go! Most of my restorations are with factory parts I have scavenged over the past 4 decades, with the aim of restoring the original construction as close as possible. I have a limited amount of modern DCC locomotives, but probably no more than 10 or so. I have no room for a layout currently, so my collection lives on shelves in plastic and cardboard boxes :( Sometimes I clear off desk space and do some restoration projects using a 3' flex track for testing.
I noted you did not apply any lubricant to the gear teeth - such as Labelle Teflon Plastic-Safe Grease. Did you find greasing the gears causes problems, or are the gears made of a self-lubricating plastic? Delrin plastic used for trucks is a self-lubricating plastic.
The amount of friction between binding gears is so minimal that adding lubricant would actually increase stress on the motor by causing it to move more fluid around. I have never heard of "Self-lubricating plastic" however some plastics are extremely low resistance to the point where they don't really need to be lubricated, so Self-lubricating sounds to me like another word for, "We made the plastic smooth enough that it doesn't require lubricant"
oh man now i better go check out my midnight special sharknose, thx this will help with future repair and restorations
Do u sell these on eBay ?
The white reduction gear was a feature of the Mk4 PowerTorque, so it belongs.
I always the Golden Gagle also!!!!
I have an extra set of sideframes (wheel covers) for that loco.
Great job.
It originally squealed like an eagle thats for sure
Does anyone know where to buy the tires (oring) that go on the wheels of the Golden Eagle, to give it traction? The train has been in storage for over 30 years and is working, only the tires are missing.
U should do teaching on cleaning engines
That would be cool, that's sorta my goal with my videos.
SMT Mainline Why does this one seem so big? Mine doesnt look that big at all!
@Reading Area Railfan the Super 630 was TYCO's longest loco from memory, being slightly longer than the E7A.
If u ever need a old steam loco with the weird driving rod screws fixed im your man ☺😄
Alright! :)
Alguien sabe dónde comprar las gomas (oring) que van en las ruedas de la Golden Eagle, para darle tracción? El tren ha estado guardado más de 30 años y está funcionando, sólo que le faltan las gomas a las ruedas.
You can get parts for them Tacos on eBay Under Tyco parts and Spares your best bet for the plastic trucks and Horn. Would be a donor Tyco train.
Interesting, thanks for sharing
I have one of these but it has the Santa fe livery
Hi it me Ryan crooks
I posted a train video
Sigh, all tycos have that dreaded squeal!!!
They can, yes.
Blaxland Ridge3 I follow you on instagram
Balakis Hakis what's your account name?
Blaxland Ridge3 every.day.foamer
Blaxland Ridge3 I remember that squeaky sound well. The vast majority of the TYCO'S I used to run I retired them! 2 only survived GP 9 or GP 20 ATSF without the side railings I need parts as well. 😐
Nice. What do you kids say? Amazeballs?
another great job scrump... KUTGW... vinny
bnsf6951 what?
Keep Up The Good Work
Ah
I got a Chattanooga 0-8-0 steam locomotive lights working but don't want to turn over it was turning over but poorly before I took it apart and and cleaned it now it don't want to turn over but the light is working on it can you please send me a video on how to clean a Chattanooga 080 steam locomotive please
I use 91 % iso. It hasn't effected anything on mine. Melts old grease and dirt away.
Why does the thumbnail look like a image a 2012 school advertisement would put in the corner
my brother has the same green and white deisel loco at the start of the video
I have a non-working golden eagle and I’m doing my damnedest to fix it but I have no idea what I’m doing😅
They can be tricky
@@SMTMainline well I got the light working so it does pick up power
WOW!
Lol at the first drive test it made the same noise as my a/c
You need to get a silver streak to go with it
That would be cool.
Scrumptious Model Trains Have you ever been to Michigan?
No, but I might be going this fall, are there any train places you would recommend?
Scrumptious Model Trains A few. There's the steam railroading institute, the huckleberry railroad, they have the only running k-27 narrow gauge steam locomotive. And there's the Michigan Ausable valley R.R a quarter gauge railroad thats only 6 US dollars a ticket. If you have a gmail I can send you some video clips and photographs of The Huckleberry and Ausable Valley.
scrumptiousmodeltrains@gmail.com are there any good train stores?
I have that engine but it a Santa fe
Yeah those are a vacuum cleaner for crappy carpet...
Ho N O Lion Amc Flyer Old
Resurrection is the term you should use on these videos since you brought it back from dying or death. Restoration would mean you restored it both electrically and cosmetically to factory spec with all the trick plates, hand rails, etc.