Both designers/developers definitely seem good at what they do! I'd be curious how much of this was your ability to provide the right level of detail in your description of what you want, and/or their ability to ask the right questions to draw out the necessary information from you. You can have a designer that does amazing work, but without the "right" communications, you won't get what you're looking for. Cool stuff overall!
I am the 180 USD designer. Very happy to see the good feedback from him. The information was not the best in the world. Just a god paragraph. But really happy. ❤❤❤❤❤
absolutely phenomenal... 1st design was GREAT and I'd 100% recommend them. that being said, wow... can totally see the value in going high-end. 2nd site is FLAWLESS. as someone who knows enough to (eventually) make a site that's "decent" this video has convinced me to user fiver should the need arise. compared to me bumbling around for months, only to end up with something half as good... soooo worth going fiver, and especially one of the 2 you used. thanks a bunch!
I am curious about the backend functionality on the 3k site. I get not wanting to show it, but that can make a difference in being happy to live with after the infatuation wears off.
I'm new to content creation however need to create a website myself thank you so much for showing this it has shown me what is possible now I just need to educate myself 😀
Even if it seems a little low, $3k is definitely well into 'can I just suggest a few tweaks?' territory. I know I've gone back to slightly rework 'finished' projects when the client realised something wasn't quite right. And hey, at the quality you saw there, I think you can be pretty confident your money's well spent if you did want to commission a more substantial update.
Incredible looking websites even if I don't expect to visit them much since I follow you on the everything. But man the autofocus issues in this video were driving me absolutely nuts.
You basically paid 3k for the slider. Hit me up, and I'll get you something incredible. Web dev for over 20 years and big fan of yours for about 4 years.
me perfectly spelling development the entire time harris: is there an E in developement? me: d e v e l o p.. wait.. goddamnit harris now i dont know how to spell it either
wordpress design isnt always just putting together plugins. personally I usw like 1-2 plugins per site and make everything custom and code more. Wordpress is nice for Customers who wanna edit stuff on the site but I prefer vue/nuxt
Remember his original price was 4500 for 10 pages and he did one for 3000. You may have gotten less value for 3000 but if you want more just pay the extra 1500 to get 10x the value
The thing is, for 3k he delivered EXACTLY what the customer wanted. If you go overboard and it’s not exactly what the customer wanted, then you failed in your design.
Totally understand that, I'm a professional Graphic Designer myself (hold a degree and a masters) so I understand the business and I understand the deliverables he was asked to create and he matched that closely..but with that being said, objectively looking at what he created overall, this was not up to a 3000 dollar standard. There are so many small flaws in his design; The animations didn't look smooth as they should, The radius on the carousel boxes did not match the timer outline and it was obvious.. that's just to name a few. Now I'm not saying this was a bad base canvas for him to work with but I am saying he didn't not create something I'd be happy with if he presented that to me, but that's obviously my opinion on the matter, everyone is different. That's just my two cents on it @@ArdentKingsman
It feels like you got a good "you get what you pay for" experience. It's a bit like gear: x dollars gets you X quality, 10x dollars gets you 10X quality, and you can spend any amount you want. Low $ is meh but ok to start out, medium $$ is pro-sumer, big time $$$ is elite.
To those who say $3K is way too much for a front page website like this have clearly never been in the web design industry, nor have any concept of how long web development and design actually takes. I'm no full-stack dev or anything, but I have built local web pages before, and ensuring every piece of the CSS and JavaScript play well with each other inside of HTML that wasn't built for those applications, it's a time-consuming process. And that's the other aspect of it, time. The page was built from scratch, which inherently increases its value due to the time it takes, and the fact that it's infinitely more customizable than any templated service like WordPress or Squarespace. You also have to consider on a dev side, if this is your sole source of income and you're spending two weeks designing a site, you better make sure you're getting paid for that amount of time, or you're not paying your bills and covering expenses. So all in all, $3K for that amount of time isn't that much.
These videos always make me nervous. I have a little experience making websites, but I'm not a designer at all and that stuff tends to be a major headache. There's so many ways to break it.
Can you help with audio I recently started duel streaming and I want to stream to kick and facebook but only want music playing on kick please help can’t figure it out for the life of me
This is weird timing for me because I am currently building my own website/online shop for my own funny/meme/offensive clothing brand. I'm 60% there but still have a lot to figure out. Launching in the new year and will have a strong marketing push with it. I have my URL for the name of my clothing brand, and I've registered all the social media too. I have no idea what I am doing.
I look forward websites that "do it for me". If I have to learn how to browse a website and it's not intuitive, they lose me and I move on. Websites should be a knowledgeable, capable server, not a self-serve buffet with no labels or serving utensils.
as a front end developer, the $180 guy did great and the $3500 guy, even with a backend, was over priced. That 1 page probably took him a few hours to create. Nothing special. Obviously I cant see the back end where Im sure most of the hours went but the front end is just basic css/js
Lord have mercy!! He's just like all clients. You do exactly what they want and they still want to make changes. Make sure your agreement have a limited amount of changes then charge for anything pass the limit.
@@CirphrankGGagree, looks cleaner. But sometimes I think, at least personally, it doesn’t have to be the cleanest most efficient solution ever. The other one is slightly more aesthetic and I’d say more satisfying.
While I love the slider A LOT, $3k for a one page site seems extreme. I hope it's in some sort of CMS so you can add more pages and functionality easily.
The price is not extreme at all, it's just not consumer friendly. There are plenty of businesses that pay more than that for a static one page ad campaign in a magazine, not including the cost of placing the actual ad.
he can upload it unlisted and let other ppl check it out, thats what a lot of other youtubers have done as well. They let their supports see the video earlier that way
bruh did you see what twtich did today... absolute dumpster fire. there is no argument anymore which site is the worst filthiest steaming site... it's twitch.. don't browse the art category
It's late. I can't think of a good comment. Gonna pin a the best comment I see today.
In which Language is the pro Site written? Some tec specs?
This was the best comment you saw today? Tough crowd
I'd have done it for free for the advertising alone! 😄
Sad about the possible lie that you paid for a website. Fiver paid the project or gave sufficient credits
how did you connect fourthwall with wordpress to import products? I have a wixsite I would like to connect it to.
Both designers/developers definitely seem good at what they do! I'd be curious how much of this was your ability to provide the right level of detail in your description of what you want, and/or their ability to ask the right questions to draw out the necessary information from you. You can have a designer that does amazing work, but without the "right" communications, you won't get what you're looking for.
Cool stuff overall!
This comment right here.
As a former freelancer, I 100% agree; there were clients who knew what they wanted and clients who only knew they didn't like what you gave them.
I am the 180 USD designer. Very happy to see the good feedback from him. The information was not the best in the world. Just a god paragraph. But really happy. ❤❤❤❤❤
As a professional web designer I was happy to see the Pro hit it out of the park! Great video
What are you using to bring your designs to life. Curious what others are doing for the development portion
absolutely phenomenal... 1st design was GREAT and I'd 100% recommend them. that being said, wow... can totally see the value in going high-end. 2nd site is FLAWLESS. as someone who knows enough to (eventually) make a site that's "decent" this video has convinced me to user fiver should the need arise. compared to me bumbling around for months, only to end up with something half as good... soooo worth going fiver, and especially one of the 2 you used. thanks a bunch!
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Clean! BTW… thanks so much for the free audio 💯🔥
UX/UI is the key to a successful website... the $3k guy nailed it!
I've been making websites for a while, both of these guys are incredible 👏
This made me want a website for my editing portfolio and content...it looks...SO GOOD
bro i love all ur tech vids soo useful and enetrtaining, keep it up buddy
I am curious about the backend functionality on the 3k site. I get not wanting to show it, but that can make a difference in being happy to live with after the infatuation wears off.
This video dropped at a perfect time for me, was just sitting setting up websites for my channels wtf
I'm new to content creation however need to create a website myself thank you so much for showing this it has shown me what is possible now I just need to educate myself 😀
Even if it seems a little low, $3k is definitely well into 'can I just suggest a few tweaks?' territory. I know I've gone back to slightly rework 'finished' projects when the client realised something wasn't quite right. And hey, at the quality you saw there, I think you can be pretty confident your money's well spent if you did want to commission a more substantial update.
Incredible looking websites even if I don't expect to visit them much since I follow you on the everything. But man the autofocus issues in this video were driving me absolutely nuts.
You basically paid 3k for the slider. Hit me up, and I'll get you something incredible. Web dev for over 20 years and big fan of yours for about 4 years.
You should have hit him up earlier :D
"ive been lusting for hub" thats bad for your health mr senpai gaming
For some reason, I half expected a SquareSpace video. 😂 Made in Abyss is goated
I also work on fiverr as web developer and this was really eye opining, Thanks for posting this.
"if you know anything about web design..." I don't think you do HAHAHHAHAHHAHAH :D
me perfectly spelling development the entire time
harris: is there an E in developement?
me: d e v e l o p.. wait.. goddamnit harris now i dont know how to spell it either
All the people complaining about the 3k website are the reason why so many people in tech and web design/development are so underpaid 🙄
They look great and As Always 👍
wordpress design isnt always just putting together plugins. personally I usw like 1-2 plugins per site and make everything custom and code more. Wordpress is nice for Customers who wanna edit stuff on the site but I prefer vue/nuxt
Hey Harris, huge fan.
I had to close my eyes at some point because the autofocus issues were going to give me motion sickness but I love this video
Okay, I'm back, I feel that the $3000 website was not worth what he delivered.
Remember his original price was 4500 for 10 pages and he did one for 3000. You may have gotten less value for 3000 but if you want more just pay the extra 1500 to get 10x the value
The thing is, for 3k he delivered EXACTLY what the customer wanted. If you go overboard and it’s not exactly what the customer wanted, then you failed in your design.
Honestly yeah, I'd even say I PREFER the cheaper one
Totally understand that, I'm a professional Graphic Designer myself (hold a degree and a masters) so I understand the business and I understand the deliverables he was asked to create and he matched that closely..but with that being said, objectively looking at what he created overall, this was not up to a 3000 dollar standard.
There are so many small flaws in his design; The animations didn't look smooth as they should, The radius on the carousel boxes did not match the timer outline and it was obvious.. that's just to name a few. Now I'm not saying this was a bad base canvas for him to work with but I am saying he didn't not create something I'd be happy with if he presented that to me, but that's obviously my opinion on the matter, everyone is different. That's just my two cents on it @@ArdentKingsman
Damn, $3k for a one page site? I'm in the wrong business
I was thinking the exact same thing. Maybe we should all learn to code.
It feels like you got a good "you get what you pay for" experience. It's a bit like gear: x dollars gets you X quality, 10x dollars gets you 10X quality, and you can spend any amount you want. Low $ is meh but ok to start out, medium $$ is pro-sumer, big time $$$ is elite.
To those who say $3K is way too much for a front page website like this have clearly never been in the web design industry, nor have any concept of how long web development and design actually takes. I'm no full-stack dev or anything, but I have built local web pages before, and ensuring every piece of the CSS and JavaScript play well with each other inside of HTML that wasn't built for those applications, it's a time-consuming process.
And that's the other aspect of it, time. The page was built from scratch, which inherently increases its value due to the time it takes, and the fact that it's infinitely more customizable than any templated service like WordPress or Squarespace. You also have to consider on a dev side, if this is your sole source of income and you're spending two weeks designing a site, you better make sure you're getting paid for that amount of time, or you're not paying your bills and covering expenses. So all in all, $3K for that amount of time isn't that much.
Arigatou Gozaimasu for the great video.
The cheaper version is always better than the more expensive option because the one who charges the least is undervaluing themselves
Waiting the new page... 🤔🤔
Bet will be in a couple weeks
Have some engagement - but my word, that premium design was just pure filth :)
eta on when website will be back? I need streambeats music to download 😅😅😅😅
These videos always make me nervous. I have a little experience making websites, but I'm not a designer at all and that stuff tends to be a major headache. There's so many ways to break it.
Made in Abyss is great, but I feel like it's sad just to be sad over and over again lol
Can you help with audio I recently started duel streaming and I want to stream to kick and facebook but only want music playing on kick please help can’t figure it out for the life of me
This is weird timing for me because I am currently building my own website/online shop for my own funny/meme/offensive clothing brand. I'm 60% there but still have a lot to figure out. Launching in the new year and will have a strong marketing push with it. I have my URL for the name of my clothing brand, and I've registered all the social media too.
I have no idea what I am doing.
if you wanna do an app developer one let me know! 5y of app dev experience here, would be cool to do some kind of small project for you
Whoever said insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results has obviously never been to fiverr.
I recognize some small bits of these images, Harris Heller soft launching on FourthWall confirmed?
Nevermind, he states it 9 minutes in. It is FW
Whats fourthwall?
Nice designs
i like the first shirt :)
Was the $3000 one created in WordPress?
Whats up with the focus?
I look forward websites that "do it for me". If I have to learn how to browse a website and it's not intuitive, they lose me and I move on. Websites should be a knowledgeable, capable server, not a self-serve buffet with no labels or serving utensils.
Looks great - but 4.5K great? Not so sure!
Well now I want a website
Engagement :)
Damn those were both nice, but that $3k one..... 👌Can you send me that site template? Thanks
as a front end developer, the $180 guy did great and the $3500 guy, even with a backend, was over priced. That 1 page probably took him a few hours to create. Nothing special. Obviously I cant see the back end where Im sure most of the hours went but the front end is just basic css/js
Lord have mercy!! He's just like all clients. You do exactly what they want and they still want to make changes. Make sure your agreement have a limited amount of changes then charge for anything pass the limit.
7:16 Don't you mean $3000 Web "Page?" 😅
Wait so he got:
-his website made for free
-a new income stream (merch)
-fiverr sponsorship money
-a yt vid out of it
Very smart :p
your Apple Watch is upside down? is this an actual feature?
If they're a pro, what's really needed for successful fruition of an idea is clear communication.
Good briefing.
The $180 website is cleaner.
@@CirphrankGGagree, looks cleaner. But sometimes I think, at least personally, it doesn’t have to be the cleanest most efficient solution ever. The other one is slightly more aesthetic and I’d say more satisfying.
I’ve seen $10k one time purchase sites
I didnt see such a diffrence 😅
Engagement
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Insert engagement here.
Please i need a website to sell my ebooks. I want people to buy trough my website and download the ebooks.
Nice :)
Please the link for the 100
It looks nice but kinda just looks like Crunchyroll.
While I love the slider A LOT, $3k for a one page site seems extreme. I hope it's in some sort of CMS so you can add more pages and functionality easily.
The price is not extreme at all, it's just not consumer friendly. There are plenty of businesses that pay more than that for a static one page ad campaign in a magazine, not including the cost of placing the actual ad.
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How is your own message pinned 9 hours ago but video was published like a minute ago?
probably took a while to process through TH-cam, so he was able to post link but waited for quality to improve before making it live
@@Nerfmodeahh okay, makes sense. Thanks!!
he can upload it unlisted and let other ppl check it out, thats what a lot of other youtubers have done as well. They let their supports see the video earlier that way
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I wondered that too. It was kinda weird.
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Why didn’t you just reach out to mk and see who he used. Lol
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The auto focus on your camera is absolutely terrible...
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bruh did you see what twtich did today... absolute dumpster fire. there is no argument anymore which site is the worst filthiest steaming site... it's twitch.. don't browse the art category
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Squarespace i beg you lol
first one i saw said Wordpress...just no lol
why not?
I'm curious too. Why not?
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