oh it is the ultimate challenge every scenario you desire to practice and perfect your game in all forms, i hope one day i get to try this beautiful creation and i believe it will do very well there is a lot more Golf enthusiast, than ever, also i hoep they have additional teams and locales like Japan, Seattle, Hawaii, Australia the works even have a junior league to play with the next generation of legendary golfers, even set up night golf challenges, that would be supreme.
Super excited that Tiger is gonna be playing. He is unfortunately basically retired from the pga because he doesn’t have the endurance to play 4 consecutive rounds while walking after his accident. But give him 1 night every 2-3 weeks if not more and he’ll be good to go! Also really excited to see how he thinks through playing a hole while mic’d up
Sounds like it’s gonna be really fun to play; we’ll see if it’s enjoyable to watch. Maybe in the future make it open a bunch to the public; rival businesses alternative to “top golf”; especially for people living in areas with bad weather.
I'd play this over Top Golf any time, but I'd never watch it. Also, this thing sounds like it will cost more to build than an actual golf course. And if they did open them to the public you can be sure it will cost more than golf.
Since it's televised, I feel any momentum and excitement built up during an epsiode is going to get interrupted by a commercial break. Player: "We want to play the Hammer" host: "ohh they are playing the hammer! Lets see what the opoosing team decides, right after this" Then 6 minutes of insurance commercials
@Matt-cr4vv absolutely. TH-cam golf and LIV has spoiled me the last few years with non-interrupted content. My short attention span can't handle commercial breaks anymore hahaha
Imagine playing it. Thats what would make it fun to watch. Is it wanna do it. Stuffs supposed to be fun right? If it's fun anything else is secondary to me.
Golf is boring on TV, period. Now if you take the people who actually pay to go see the matches live, than I think those people would very much enjoy being in a small air conditioned environment surrounded by the pros, and not have to walk the course in the hot sun and get to watch every shot they take.
I don’t know why. But this reminds me of the motocross that RedBull did called, “Straight Rhythm Racing”. It was a huge huge hit at the beginning & then it deteriorated away. The fans & the pros loved it & they all said it was the best thing ever! They kind of stopped doing it & 2 years ago was there last one at Huntington Beach, Ca.
They stopped RBSR because of rider issues. Basically the only riders who could ride was Redbull or non energy drink riders. Monster and Rockstar wouldn't let their riders ride the even, eliminating 2 of the 5 factory teams at the time and I believe Honda didn't want their riders riding either. Basically it was only red bull athletes that rode in it which depleted the field. On top of that it also kind of died out when Bubba quit riding.
@@berniedmj1 Yea, it was a great event and I believe the first year or 2 all the teams were lax with allowing their riders to ride. But the fact that it was put on by redbull directly was the problem.
Just a question: Have you ever went with friends to hit a few shots on a simulator...and how bored did you get while the mates hit their shots before you get your opportunity to hit? Now imagine going to watch others hit shots on the simulator, knowing that you won't even get an opportunity to hit a few yourself! In my opinion the only people willing and wanting to view this would be the same people willing to watch others do gaming without wanting to play themselves. I for one are like in not interested to see even 1 shot played by whoever...just saying
I didn't like Topgolf at all (waiting 20 minutes to hit my balls and then sit down for another 20 minutes, etc.), but then I bought my own membership so I can have the bay all to myself for as long as I want.
It’ll attract the same crowd that go to tournaments- people don’t get to go play the course after watching all the pros. It’s just a fun way they can make golf a year round sport.
I mean it's largely the same thing as just tournament golf in general isn't it? Nobody goes to the tournament thinking after they watch the pros hit some shots they'll get their turn. But part of watching your friends on a simulator that gets boring is that you're going there to expect to hit your own shots so you're impatiently waiting for your turn, whereas if you go as an onlooker I think things are different.
ESPN will be covering the tournaments or matches. Im wondering what that will be like. Probably a lot of production to make up for the lack of real conditions. Its basically going to be 2 hours of players teeing up balls and executing penalty drops into the rough and sand. Hmmmmm.....
Could be fun to watch… until the novelty wears off, and I’m picking that’s going to be pretty quick! Trying to be positive but can’t help thinking about the hypocrisy of this against the difference of LIV!
If you don't see where the differences are and how one is a bonus and the other is a dilution that takes away from the primary product then it is what it is.
It's on Monday nights when football is over. It's not a direct competitor. I'm sure this has PGA blessing. And the backers of this league didn't murder a journalist inside of an embassy.
@@Mactastic25 so any Chinese money that comes into the PGA you are vocal about right. I am 100% against the majority of Muslim countries I spent a lot of time in them in the military. The one thing most people do not understand about these countries is while we the western world do not agree with their human rights issues and rightfully so, they believe how they treat their citizens and non Muslim is in line and mandated by their religious beliefs. In their mind when they kill a journalist or a homosexual they are doing nothing wrong. So enough of the fake moral outrage until you can account for every dollar that flows into the PGA, or players wearing Nike and 99% of their equipment that is made in a 3rd world country.
The only things missing are machines to create wind and rain. I’d hate to see them play in benign conditions all the time. I’d throw in a thermostat or two to crank the temp up and down. Then they can pretend they are playing in Ireland one day and south Florida the next. Food concession stands can serve items common to the regions they are pretending to play in the week. This could be so exciting to see tiger hitting a stinger into a 40 mph wind dead into the screen. Or Shane Lowery pulling on his weather-proofs when the sky opens up on Ireland day. CANT WAIT
Folks moan and complain about how the PGA Tour is stuffy and boring and the same old, same old. Then, when something new and perhaps interesting comes along like LIV or TGL, the immediate response is "Aww hell no". What exactly is it that you want? Just something to complain about? I can forsee something like TGL eventually becoming something like local league play in cities around the country especially in parts of the country with short golf seasons
Yeah, people just love to bitch now days about any and everything! Give it a chance people and then if you don't like it quit watching it and leave it at that.
Yeah ive been trying to wrap my head on this being a actual idea. I figured when they burned down last year it's was a fake bargaining chip against LIV. This feels like it's gonna be too complicated to be interesting but we will see
To each his own, but as a former course worker this is the stuff I despise. Enough with the gimmicky matches and stuff like this, it only diminishes the game. The recent event at night in Vegas was a true yawner, just another money grab. Let's be clear, this is more about rich men getting even more $$ and not as much about pure entertainment. The PGAs lame attempt to be "LIV-Like", I'd have to be pretty bored to watch much. I'm not a conspiracy person but sims can be manipulated obviously and certainly not a natural environment for golf. It's funny watching these ultra rich pros try so hard to build this up as something fantastic.
If AI controlled the putting surface, it could make Tiger Woods a terrible sand bagger, and anyone else a champion! Be care for what you wish for because it might happen! It would be great fun to play golf in a Sofi center in the middle of winter in Wisconsin!
I honestly think this could be as big as Monday Night Football. However they NEED to incorporate LIV into this. THEY HAVE TO. I am excited for this, but it needs to be implemented well.
Cant believe the fake excitement for this compared the redicule that these same people showed for LIV as being not real golf and an exhibition tour. Are we really at the point where we want to watch tour players play simulator golf? I dont care how big the screen ks or of there is a "real" green its simulator golf, end of story.
«Throwing the hammer»?! What the hell is this? BasEketball movie? Haha also, Full Swing hardware being inferior to both Trackman and Foresight systems when it comes to ball tracking according to every review ever done? But at least Tiger will make a significant personal chunk of dough off it.
why all guys??? they should have a womens league also! and a mixed league!(men+women 2m+2w) what about colledge, what about seniors, what about high school, heck even a childrens league ! and what about a handicaped league? so many golfers would love a chance to try it. why not have a weekend game for public non ranked teams?(teams that come from certain states or clubs(golf clubs that sanction 4 players from their roster of non league players)
Sounds like another boring golf league…this looks so boring to watch. Childish almost. I can’t stand any pro golf anymore and Tiger is my favorite but the PGA is gone, LIV feels like a 4 man scramble at a municiple course with a bunch of drunk people and this looks like more exclusion for people that like golf. If I wanted to watch people golf in a golf dome…I would just go to one. This isn’t realistic at all…it’s more bore!!
Its not replacing anything. Its not taking players from other leagues. They can still do pga and liv. Its for friday primetime. Its genius. Everyone loved Woods for growing game. What is he doing here? Fun gomf on friday nights. Soinds amazing. It hits off top golf craze for non golfers. They can eatch this as they drink party and hit balls. Then real golfers can gett into it because its for real golfers. Imagine how fun this would be?ths that not what should come first? How fun it is to play and if it grows the game?
Are they going to put giant windmills and a clowns head on the putting greens? I can't believe people are talking about this seriously. Anything to keep the cash cow known as Tiger Woods relevant I guess. I'm out.
TGL has no chance of lasting no more than 2 seasons. If you believe otherwise you’re higher than a kite. The ratings on this will be a .7 by The 3rd week of season 2 and they will beg the network to let them finish the season!!!
They managed to make a hard to watch sport more unwatchable….the lack of action, the disarray and they barely posted any shot data…they picked golfers with zero personality and then panned to a bored crowd wondering why they went to watch this live…
What do you guys think about TGL and do you think it will be successful?
indeed
Huge fail.
oh it is the ultimate challenge every scenario you desire to practice and perfect your game in all forms, i hope one day i get to try this beautiful creation and i believe it will do very well there is a lot more Golf enthusiast, than ever, also i hoep they have additional teams and locales like Japan, Seattle, Hawaii, Australia the works even have a junior league to play with the next generation of legendary golfers, even set up night golf challenges, that would be supreme.
It was fun to watch, had a good pace to it. I'll watch it again for sure
Super excited that Tiger is gonna be playing. He is unfortunately basically retired from the pga because he doesn’t have the endurance to play 4 consecutive rounds while walking after his accident. But give him 1 night every 2-3 weeks if not more and he’ll be good to go! Also really excited to see how he thinks through playing a hole while mic’d up
Sounds like it’s gonna be really fun to play; we’ll see if it’s enjoyable to watch. Maybe in the future make it open a bunch to the public; rival businesses alternative to “top golf”; especially for people living in areas with bad weather.
I'd play this over Top Golf any time, but I'd never watch it. Also, this thing sounds like it will cost more to build than an actual golf course. And if they did open them to the public you can be sure it will cost more than golf.
I’m not really sold on it just yet. Definitely will have to watch the first one.
Players have a 40-second shot clock to hit each shot. Adds a bit of pressure. Also curious to see if crowd noise will be a factor.
the hammer is the doubling cube from backgammon. i love it.
Since it's televised, I feel any momentum and excitement built up during an epsiode is going to get interrupted by a commercial break.
Player: "We want to play the Hammer"
host: "ohh they are playing the hammer! Lets see what the opoosing team decides, right after this"
Then 6 minutes of insurance commercials
Isn't that kinda how sports has always worked, including golf? Or at least for the past 20 years.
@Matt-cr4vv absolutely. TH-cam golf and LIV has spoiled me the last few years with non-interrupted content. My short attention span can't handle commercial breaks anymore hahaha
We will be at the first airing! It will definitely help the simulator industry if anything.
Are they always playing off a horizontal lies for fairway/rough/round the green shots?
making it the Monday Night Football for the Summer was a smart move.
Totally gonna follow this. Gives a bit of an NBA feel with the logos.. super cool.
So when are we gonna get Fantasy TGL?
I’m for any golf but imagine the feedback if LIV proposed this idea and….. the hammer.
I'm wondering after watching a couple of times will it get boring. I'm thinking it will.
Agreed it will
Imagine playing it. Thats what would make it fun to watch. Is it wanna do it. Stuffs supposed to be fun right? If it's fun anything else is secondary to me.
Golf is boring on TV, period. Now if you take the people who actually pay to go see the matches live, than I think those people would very much enjoy being in a small air conditioned environment surrounded by the pros, and not have to walk the course in the hot sun and get to watch every shot they take.
I don’t know why. But this reminds me of the motocross that RedBull did called, “Straight Rhythm Racing”.
It was a huge huge hit at the beginning & then it deteriorated away.
The fans & the pros loved it & they all said it was the best thing ever!
They kind of stopped doing it & 2 years ago was there last one at Huntington Beach, Ca.
They stopped RBSR because of rider issues. Basically the only riders who could ride was Redbull or non energy drink riders. Monster and Rockstar wouldn't let their riders ride the even, eliminating 2 of the 5 factory teams at the time and I believe Honda didn't want their riders riding either. Basically it was only red bull athletes that rode in it which depleted the field. On top of that it also kind of died out when Bubba quit riding.
@ thanks for the info. I’ve always wondered why.
@@berniedmj1 Yea, it was a great event and I believe the first year or 2 all the teams were lax with allowing their riders to ride. But the fact that it was put on by redbull directly was the problem.
Wonder what kind of spin rate they would use for buried lies in bunkers and green side rough
When will regular people be able to play in a facility like this?
The Green Zone has a tech-infused green with thousands of configurations. Pretty cool.
One match ea team per week? Or one match total each week?
I’m stoked for this. This is gonna be amazing.
Just a question:
Have you ever went with friends to hit a few shots on a simulator...and how bored did you get while the mates hit their shots before you get your opportunity to hit?
Now imagine going to watch others hit shots on the simulator, knowing that you won't even get an opportunity to hit a few yourself! In my opinion the only people willing and wanting to view this would be the same people willing to watch others do gaming without wanting to play themselves.
I for one are like in not interested to see even 1 shot played by whoever...just saying
I didn't like Topgolf at all (waiting 20 minutes to hit my balls and then sit down for another 20 minutes, etc.), but then I bought my own membership so I can have the bay all to myself for as long as I want.
It’ll attract the same crowd that go to tournaments- people don’t get to go play the course after watching all the pros. It’s just a fun way they can make golf a year round sport.
I mean it's largely the same thing as just tournament golf in general isn't it? Nobody goes to the tournament thinking after they watch the pros hit some shots they'll get their turn. But part of watching your friends on a simulator that gets boring is that you're going there to expect to hit your own shots so you're impatiently waiting for your turn, whereas if you go as an onlooker I think things are different.
ESPN will be covering the tournaments or matches. Im wondering what that will be like. Probably a lot of production to make up for the lack of real conditions. Its basically going to be 2 hours of players teeing up balls and executing penalty drops into the rough and sand. Hmmmmm.....
Could be fun to watch… until the novelty wears off, and I’m picking that’s going to be pretty quick! Trying to be positive but can’t help thinking about the hypocrisy of this against the difference of LIV!
If you don't see where the differences are and how one is a bonus and the other is a dilution that takes away from the primary product then it is what it is.
Imagine if they did a PGA vs LIV event in this.....
existing technology implemented in a ground breaking way*
I wonder how the venue came through the hurricane?
Sounds interesting, I'll be checking this out for sure.
Is this an infomercial ?
Absolutely love this idea❤
So LIV golf bad but video game golf is good??
It's on Monday nights when football is over. It's not a direct competitor. I'm sure this has PGA blessing. And the backers of this league didn't murder a journalist inside of an embassy.
@@Mactastic25 so any Chinese money that comes into the PGA you are vocal about right. I am 100% against the majority of Muslim countries I spent a lot of time in them in the military. The one thing most people do not understand about these countries is while we the western world do not agree with their human rights issues and rightfully so, they believe how they treat their citizens and non Muslim is in line and mandated by their religious beliefs. In their mind when they kill a journalist or a homosexual they are doing nothing wrong. So enough of the fake moral outrage until you can account for every dollar that flows into the PGA, or players wearing Nike and 99% of their equipment that is made in a 3rd world country.
Lolol
No doubt
Awesome comment
The only things missing are machines to create wind and rain. I’d hate to see them play in benign conditions all the time. I’d throw in a thermostat or two to crank the temp up and down. Then they can pretend they are playing in Ireland one day and south Florida the next. Food concession stands can serve items common to the regions they are pretending to play in the week. This could be so exciting to see tiger hitting a stinger into a 40 mph wind dead into the screen. Or Shane Lowery pulling on his weather-proofs when the sky opens up on Ireland day. CANT WAIT
Scotty Sheffler wants no part in this😂. It’d be a waste of his time. Created for Tiger so he doesn’t have to walk a course.
Folks moan and complain about how the PGA Tour is stuffy and boring and the same old, same old. Then, when something new and perhaps interesting comes along like LIV or TGL, the immediate response is "Aww hell no". What exactly is it that you want? Just something to complain about? I can forsee something like TGL eventually becoming something like local league play in cities around the country especially in parts of the country with short golf seasons
Or people can just golf...
Love the pga tour
Yeah, people just love to bitch now days about any and everything! Give it a chance people and then if you don't like it quit watching it and leave it at that.
LIV 2 probably Phil idea
They can't be serious this is absolutely crap😊
This would be way more interesting with TH-cam golfers. Give us Kyle Berkshire and Fat Perez
Yeah ive been trying to wrap my head on this being a actual idea. I figured when they burned down last year it's was a fake bargaining chip against LIV. This feels like it's gonna be too complicated to be interesting but we will see
How long will it hold the attention of the gamers?
I was excited to here the rules and details of the game but geeze this was waaaaaay drawn out..had to bail.
I think most people who watch TH-cam will enjoy this. I feel like this will be fun. I enjoy watching people hit on sims
I love TH-cam golf, but this in no way interests me.
To each his own, but as a former course worker this is the stuff I despise. Enough with the gimmicky matches and stuff like this, it only diminishes the game. The recent event at night in Vegas was a true yawner, just another money grab. Let's be clear, this is more about rich men getting even more $$ and not as much about pure entertainment. The PGAs lame attempt to be "LIV-Like", I'd have to be pretty bored to watch much. I'm not a conspiracy person but sims can be manipulated obviously and certainly not a natural environment for golf. It's funny watching these ultra rich pros try so hard to build this up as something fantastic.
If AI controlled the putting surface, it could make Tiger Woods a terrible sand bagger, and anyone else a champion! Be care for what you wish for because it might happen! It would be great fun to play golf in a Sofi center in the middle of winter in Wisconsin!
So they ate going tear down the screen every night and putting green
Dont forget there is nfl games at sofi
Different place.
Yeah this place only holds like 1,600 spectators.
Why have city names when ever match for the entirety of this league will be played at the same place.
So all the players that hated LIV just made/joined a league that mimics LIV golf.......gotcha
I honestly think this could be as big as Monday Night Football. However they NEED to incorporate LIV into this. THEY HAVE TO. I am excited for this, but it needs to be implemented well.
WGAF!
I honestly, from the bottom of my heart, do not care how this works; I'm never watching simulator golf, it's just that simple.
Ok boomer
@@michaelbobadilla It's sad that you even think that's an insult.
No mention of prize money? Just bragging rights?
Cant believe the fake excitement for this compared the redicule that these same people showed for LIV as being not real golf and an exhibition tour. Are we really at the point where we want to watch tour players play simulator golf? I dont care how big the screen ks or of there is a "real" green its simulator golf, end of story.
«Throwing the hammer»?! What the hell is this? BasEketball movie? Haha also, Full Swing hardware being inferior to both Trackman and Foresight systems when it comes to ball tracking according to every review ever done? But at least Tiger will make a significant personal chunk of dough off it.
It sounds like everything people hate about Simulators and LIV golf combined. This is a huge swing and a miss.
Tuesdays. Not Mondays
I was just typing "so it airs mondays but premiers on a tuesday?" hahahaha
I love that the >40 crowd immediately dismisses this awesome idea
The grass area will get destroyed by iron shots in no time.
why all guys??? they should have a womens league also! and a mixed league!(men+women 2m+2w) what about colledge, what about seniors, what about high school, heck even a childrens league ! and what about a handicaped league? so many golfers would love a chance to try it. why not have a weekend game for public non ranked teams?(teams that come from certain states or clubs(golf clubs that sanction 4 players from their roster of non league players)
I think it would be a lot of fun to play but I don't want to watch someone else play a video game.
This is gonna flop hard
Are 'Get in the hole' shouts banned? Hope so...US at its very rock bottom...
Train wreck. The casualties will be significant $$$.
how the fuck no hovland or slambeau
Sounds like another boring golf league…this looks so boring to watch. Childish almost. I can’t stand any pro golf anymore and Tiger is my favorite but the PGA is gone, LIV feels like a 4 man scramble at a municiple course with a bunch of drunk people and this looks like more exclusion for people that like golf. If I wanted to watch people golf in a golf dome…I would just go to one. This isn’t realistic at all…it’s more bore!!
The BGL?
@ yes, Boring Golf League….correct.
No Thanks!
Its not replacing anything. Its not taking players from other leagues. They can still do pga and liv. Its for friday primetime. Its genius. Everyone loved Woods for growing game. What is he doing here? Fun gomf on friday nights. Soinds amazing. It hits off top golf craze for non golfers. They can eatch this as they drink party and hit balls. Then real golfers can gett into it because its for real golfers. Imagine how fun this would be?ths that not what should come first? How fun it is to play and if it grows the game?
First they need to allow weed smoking and drinking. on my mamma!
No chance
So basically LIV but virtual?
Hypocrites
Are they going to put giant windmills and a clowns head on the putting greens? I can't believe people are talking about this seriously. Anything to keep the cash cow known as Tiger Woods relevant I guess. I'm out.
This sounds really fun! For the guys playing. Boring as hell to watch.
No
Stupid concept. Who want to see anyone beat-it into a giant screen. Goofy. Know wonder Tiger Woods is involved.
Top Golf for Pros? I have less than ZERO interest.
TGL has no chance of lasting no more than 2 seasons. If you believe otherwise you’re higher than a kite. The ratings on this will be a .7 by The 3rd week of season 2 and they will beg the network to let them finish the season!!!
It’s gonna be lame for sure. It’s prob trying to get non golfers to watch honestly
Sounds dumb honestly. Can’t see myself getting into it. It’s a dog and pony show. We will see
This is the dumbest thing ever!.
LIV isn’t real golf so you won’t watch, but you’re all excited about this… 😂
Um , 👎
Beyond lame, this is a fail.
No Scotty sucks honestly
They managed to make a hard to watch sport more unwatchable….the lack of action, the disarray and they barely posted any shot data…they picked golfers with zero personality and then panned to a bored crowd wondering why they went to watch this live…