The ULTIMATE Meta Tierlist, this Gun Dominates High Rank in The Finals!

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  • Whether you're a beginner or a seasoned player, this video will help you. Ill be discussing the pros and cons of each gun, and which is the best for high rank play.
    Im breaking down the numbers and stats of the guns to make the best Tierlist possible and predict the Competitive Meta for the upcoming launch of The Finals, providing you with valuable insight so you can stay ahead of your enemies and start dominating higher ranks with those S Tier Guns.
    The best weapon might even be the easiest to use so regardless of skill and aim you can climb higher and higher to compete with the best players on the Leaderboard.
    Ill explain some of the hidden stats of weapons, TTK ( Time to kill), Damage numbers allowing you to make informed decisions about which ones suits your playstyle and can give you the upper hand.
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    Ill release all my data in a future video diving deep into the stats and explaining everything in more detail.
    I will guide you through my sheet so you can make your decision based on your needs and playstile.
    I also have another tips and tricks Video in the making so stay tuned for that.
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  • @kellyx9868
    @kellyx9868 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +527

    Are we all gonna ignore his close tabs? 😂

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +109

      Shhhh its No Nut November 🤫

    • @hawk2222
      @hawk2222 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@swalees soooo you lost?

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

      @@hawk2222 Will you believe me if i said i filmed this 31 of October ?

    • @pandorahd6752
      @pandorahd6752 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      We all have that one favorite video! Don't lose it G

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@pandorahd6752 Hope i never leak my bookmarks

  • @yarincool1237
    @yarincool1237 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +309

    Flamethrower also makes the enemy shots harder to hit you because of the flames so in reality at least from my experience you win a lot of 1v1s.

    • @The.Afronaut
      @The.Afronaut 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      you'll never win a 1v1 if you both start shooting at the same time. but because you dont need to aim and can hipfire + focus on movement, i'd argue that it's C tier. easily countered though by forcing the heavy out into an open space. but in an enclosed area, it jumps to A+ or S tier.

    • @PerceptionFPV
      @PerceptionFPV 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      and you can jump around and make it harder for them to hit you

    • @DavidPLopez
      @DavidPLopez 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      4 words... goo grenade\quick cash

    • @solkvist8668
      @solkvist8668 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Was also going to mention this. Assuming you are positioning well (keeping to enclosed areas) it’s actually very hard for any class besides heavy to win that fight. This is mostly due to the blinding effect of being shot by said flamethrower. I can confirm that top 100 players can and do use the flamethrower. I’d argue the shotgun does it’s job better, but it’s definitely not D tier

    • @kemasalauddin1604
      @kemasalauddin1604 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@DavidPLopezflame burns goo tho

  • @thedagz6460
    @thedagz6460 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Excellent video dude, informative/ helpful/ detailed 👍.
    Massive props for all the self-testing youve put into this video, you honestly deserve the algorithm to pick you up.

  • @vasilistsitsas5088
    @vasilistsitsas5088 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    IMO the heavy shotgun should be in S tier because of the map design as well as heavy utilities. Firstly, except seoul, it's easy to force indoor fights (with some exceptions to some points). And the double shield that every competent heavy uses make closing the gap even easier. I use almost exclusively the shotgun and there has never been a time when i wished I was running a more long range weapon.
    Very accurate video!

  • @bmxhiro6592
    @bmxhiro6592 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love the way you explain everything. Trust me the video was supper useful. Thanks for the info and keep up the good work.

    • @swalees
      @swalees  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you im glad to hear you like it. There is also an updated Video out already

  • @oscaraguilera4172
    @oscaraguilera4172 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great editing and commentary! Keep the content up, I generally agree with the ranking also when considering them in a void

  • @conkowski1914
    @conkowski1914 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is actually such a good video for somone who NEEDS more subs! Keep up the great work!

  • @iiTzSiiK
    @iiTzSiiK 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was very surprised by the video. An incredible work compiling information in limited time and very well exposed/edited in a very clear and direct way. I'll be waiting for more of your videos when the game comes out, keep it up and I'm sure your channel will grow a lot!

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ty so much. It takes time but its fun and its helping people understand the game.
      Now its time to wait for the release so i can go back to testing

  • @xSTONYTARKx
    @xSTONYTARKx 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like that you included the ttk of each weapon.
    And i might consider switching from medium to light class at launch.
    I've been using the medium shotgun, but it was so inconsistent in the beta and it doesn't have a very high dmg output. For my playstyle i think the lh-11 marksman would suit very well.

  • @mrx8532
    @mrx8532 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice analysis . Completely agree with the categorization. You should get more views!

  • @TheArcturusProject
    @TheArcturusProject 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hammer bros incoming: The cool thing is I think the hammer and such niche weapons have a place in most people gameplay because they can disrupt the meta and totally change the battlefield. They can create total chaos which can be quite undervalued. You aren’t there to win a 1v1, you’re there to disrupt the enemy and help your team win a 3v3. Plus the insane burst if you are defending a close quarters spot cannot be overlooked. One shorting people is powerful.
    Overall I’ve found the hammer to be quite map dependent, with it sucking on skyscrapers where you can’t level an entire building with the enemy team trapped inside it.

    • @thedagz6460
      @thedagz6460 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Can CONFIRM! Ended up in a team with a Heavy who would CONSTANTLY use his barge/sledge once we had the objective. Nobody could get anywhere near the thing as the building was just mayhem falling down around you 😂.
      Absolutely mental yet flawless tactic lmao

  • @xLHOAA
    @xLHOAA 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    great vid, well thought out. cant wait for game release its so addicting. thanks for the research and sharing your thoughts

  • @maximillianbluhm8982
    @maximillianbluhm8982 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the video! Very helpful

  • @leoncca
    @leoncca 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh yeah, looking forward to you releasing that spreadsheet to the public! Great job number-crunching

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It will come just needs more time.

  • @SpinachOW2
    @SpinachOW2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’m kind of a numbers nerd when it comes to spread sheets and TTK for guns, I’m so happy someone finally put out a list like this with backing besides how they good, good stuff man! Liked and subbed 👍🏻 nice work

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Im also a nerd for numbers. There will be more and ill public the sheet when its done.

  • @Dazeja5
    @Dazeja5 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    appreciate the effort put into this vid!

  • @finngoes579
    @finngoes579 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video man, keep it up!

  • @keepsake4454
    @keepsake4454 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video man. Keep up the hard work. You have potential to make it big with content of this quality. Very informative and helpful

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you. Glad you like it

  • @induwilliams7883
    @induwilliams7883 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing video!! Please dont stop.. KEEP GOING!!! Im watching every video from now on. Thanks!!!

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Love to hear that. There is alot more coming so ill be stealing your time

  • @GHCMargarita
    @GHCMargarita 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for this video this is really good information

  • @vlades007
    @vlades007 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very good video, super comprehensive analysis

  • @Ton_Tonn
    @Ton_Tonn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    super well done teirlist and I like the research. It definitely validated some of the feelings I was getting from playing. Its always cool to see stuff like this. I had a bunch of fun with some of the lower ranked weapons just messing around but I can definitely see that they fall of in ranked. understandably people become a lot more focused on winning then messing around. I hope they nerf the magazine size of the light pistol because pared with dash its basically an everything counter but it can be super fun to use. Thanks for the vid.

  • @socialphobia5800
    @socialphobia5800 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great vid man keep it up

  • @Grandilex
    @Grandilex 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ha! Shared. Well made video, ty

  • @goninja2162
    @goninja2162 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    great video man!

  • @yunavonyullinien
    @yunavonyullinien 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting tierlist and interesting tab you have there. Well done mate!

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you. But we dont talk about the tabs.

  • @bomerfan
    @bomerfan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great list ! Agree with everything haha. I haven't been this excited for a game since apex legends first launched.

  • @kidelliott7122
    @kidelliott7122 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It hurts to hear the melee weapons are so unviable...but I needed to hear it 😅
    Great video, friend! You've got my sub and I look forward to more The Finals content. This game is about to pop off and if you continue to put content like this out I have no doubt your channel will do very well. Best of luck to you with the channel and in the arena!

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      TY im glad to hear you enjoy it.
      Sometimes its the truth that hurts the most xD

  • @HavyFargo
    @HavyFargo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing video, great research and super informative

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you. Means alot

  • @florianpicquet2887
    @florianpicquet2887 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nice work man

  • @akhmedbitar6469
    @akhmedbitar6469 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This video - the best guide about The finals. Thanks,bro!

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only the best for you

  • @matchabomb5474
    @matchabomb5474 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, thank you. Id like to say that i think the FCAR will be used as much as the AKM, just because i think TTK is going to very important in this game

  • @christianmarshall276
    @christianmarshall276 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thanks for the helpful video!!!

  • @crift
    @crift 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great Video,
    Strongly agree with most.
    One thing i like to point out is that most heavy players will bring the utility to force most Teams in close range fights (e.g. Bubble Shield, shield ability, destruction of the environment around the cashout Stations, ...) and we currently see way too few people using Glitch Grenades to properly answer this. Making the shotgun an S Tier Level in my view.
    Also i had someone in my team with Sword getting Top 400 (Diamond) position on CB2 leaderboard. But this weapon will greatly depend on how your Team works and communicates with each other.

  • @remicade2164
    @remicade2164 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice tabs on Opera my dude !
    But good job with your video it's interesting !

    • @swalees
      @swalees  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      TY. Nice to hear that you found the video interesting.
      I was afraid people would be bored by such a long video without much Visuals.
      Also those tabs were still in Oktober so im clean

  • @ashawk6036
    @ashawk6036 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I was looking through the comments and how is nobody talking about the tab with p-hub

  • @Newterss
    @Newterss 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the quality of your recent videos is really good, keep grinding and im sure you'll be able to grow

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      TY. Im glad to hear that.
      Ive noticed improvment in my editing while making this Video and its been so enjoyable to learn.
      At the end of this video i wanted to change so many things at the start already that i couldve done better.

  • @za3tat457
    @za3tat457 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i really apreciate ur effort for making this video this info needs like 3 years to collect keep goin buddy

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ty

  • @dominikhaack615
    @dominikhaack615 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good Video thx mate

  • @LeonX29
    @LeonX29 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been playing V9S cloak since +vanish since the last open beta and absolutely loving it. For me it feels like a seriously fast paced kill on all classes in close ranges, and a real good damager on medium ranges as the occational headshot tends to land. If point blank you just hipfire and everything will hit the opponent. Then simply cloaking to reload or disengage before it gets too heated is amazing. I came for fast paced combat and that loadout is exactly what i wanted

  • @jeremyellis6552
    @jeremyellis6552 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    Hey man this video is super well researched and edited. I would definitely watch a similar style video on the class balance/meta. I feel light is slightly weak at the moment. Definitely the most fun but it’s hard to compete against the heavy’s hp or mediums healing. Would love to see your thoughts!

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      TY so much.
      I am working on that but will probably not be able to put this out before the Beta ends cause it takes alot of time. But I am prepping alot of Videos for the upcoming launch

    • @jeremyellis6552
      @jeremyellis6552 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@swalees sounds great!

    • @Blaze-yi5bv
      @Blaze-yi5bv 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      FINALLY SOMEONE PUT THIS OUT THERE we lights are getting underpowered by heavys especially the blade cloak players

    • @antongryffindor
      @antongryffindor 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Blaze-yi5bv I believe cloak deserves to be underpowered. It is extremely frustrating to play against and it feels like some people only choose cloak because they can't get kills without every advantage possible. If cloak was more powerful people would start using it as a crutch, and people would probably just start running recon anyway. I've played a fair amount of cloak and dagger or shotgun, and I think that it's fun to play, but difficult too. It's not a particularly useful kit for just anybody. I can also draw comparisons to TF2 spy gameplay, as I've played quite a bit of spy. In both games the playstyle is hard, inconsistent, and more complicated than a normal class, but excels in the right hands, and I think that's the way it should be.

    • @everettfisher8752
      @everettfisher8752 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      you're not supposed to take fights head-on as light, that's the reason they have the fastest TTK guns - you get in on a flank, get a pick, then (hopefully) leave before someone looks at you funny and you die. rinse and repeat. light also has (imo, and i'm NOT a professional player lol) the best utility kit in the game, namely the stun gun and glitch grenade. glitch grenades completely shut down specialisations like the healing beam, heavy's shield(s), turrets etc for several seconds, as well as prevent people from using gadgets at all - very useful if there's a RPG-spamming heavy on the other team. the stun gun is borderline broken, it lowers your sensitivity dramatically (think COD stun grenades), as well as slowing movement and preventing you from aiming down sights, as well as all the effects of the glitch grenade. the cooldown is also absurdly quick. used properly it's a free kill (or guaranteed escape) when you land a shot. so yea i think light definitely has a place in the meta, as glitch grenades are a perfect counter to the H/M/M comp everyone's running rn, you just have to play as a flanker or run harrassment. only change id make is buff light HP to 175 so RPG's cant one shot, but then again im just a salty light main lol.

  • @floran20
    @floran20 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very underrated video and channel. you deserve your own 100k views. The vid is also great and informative

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Love to hear that! Thank you so much

  • @y_0ussef662
    @y_0ussef662 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    great video and great engagement trap 😂 (the hub) can you make another one about abilities and utilities

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He saw right through me shit.
      There will be another one dont you worry about that

  • @antongryffindor
    @antongryffindor 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    Riot shield is a useful niche weapon. I'm a little sad to see it placed so low, because something that wasn't taken into account is synergy with utility and playstyle. I run what I call the "Combat Medic" loadout. I have riot shield, medgun, defib, landmines, and recon grenade. At first it seems like a limited loadout, maybe even kinda bad, but when I play with good team-mates, I can coordinate our team through difficult pushes and focus on reviving and healing.
    My thought originally was that if I could keep my team-mates alive and shooting they would make up for my lack of kills, so the survivability the riot shield is giving you is benefitting the team, but I soon realized that I was getting just as many if not more kills with the riot shield than with any other gun, not to mention the numerous revives and constant healing. I have never seen anyone using riot shield in-game, only on youtube, and I really hate when a youtuber (not specifically Swalees) uses it for two matches and then calls it trash because they don't know how to use it.
    Also, running riot shield is undeniably more fun than running AK or some other meta. Every kill I get feels rewarding, as strategy or teamwork is usually involved with getting one. You can't go invisible, you can't shoot them, you just have to find a way to close the gap and beat them with a stick. It's a "If I can't shoot you, you can't shoot me" situation, that most people don't know how to play against.
    It is the weirdest hill I'm willing to die on, but riot shield is a useful tool, and if you are playing for the team, you will experience some fantastic moments and really throw people off who don't expect you. I absolutely recommend hopping in a vc with a couple buddies and trying it out. Really fun, good for teamplay, solid B tier for tourneys.
    P.S. Good things DO NOT happen if you run three riot shields. It is an effective team lobotomy in which your entire team scream like monkeys and run around trying to beat people with sticks.

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      I can see your build working as a combat medic focussing on teamplay. The shield gives the best survivability for the medic for sure.
      I would love to see 3 people with riotshields dropping from the roof with C4 screaming "FBI OPEN UP"

    • @Flopsgamer
      @Flopsgamer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I agree. Though I never played the riot shield like you. I play with friends so we can coordinate well. My kind, "niche" (I don't know if it's niche or just bad or just crazy XD) of playstyle is the "where are you looking at?" basically,Riot shield, def, turret, gas, and jump pad: the street is as follows; secure loot, strategically plant turret, gas the room. Jump pas under annoying gaps. And def for mates. 100% player will focus on evading gaz or shooting the turret or landed after a jump right in a mate trap.Fun guaranteed. +1 if your entire team plays turret. Basically, the players don't know where to focus their fire to. Sure, you can hit my turret. But now 1) I gave your position to my team. 2) (The fog) I'm coming while you are distracted 3) you realise that and focus on me 4) now you get shot by the turret. 5) Repeat loop until you get kicked in the ass by the turrets or by my STICK.

    • @thedagz6460
      @thedagz6460 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      😂 I swear you were carrying my ass the other night. Ended up with a dude running your "medic build" and he was an absolute god-send.
      Really really cool idea for a build, may have to try it myself as I always love support roles 😂

    • @antongryffindor
      @antongryffindor 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thedagz6460 OSPUSE gear and sunglasses?

    • @itsPandaDan
      @itsPandaDan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      A lot of these stay focused tireless are only good for just that, stats.
      Once you take your own game sense and accuracy you could easily push a D tier into A tier.
      The stats are nice to know and can help inform your decisions but don’t follow it like law.
      If you see success with the riot shield you should use it bro

  • @DuckFu
    @DuckFu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is a great video, well done. My only disagreement is on the flamethrower. If you’ve got a med healer on your squad running with you, it’s nearly unstoppable if you’re playing objectives. Idk how it’ll stack up upon release and there is a more competitive scene, but i had 20+ kills in 4 straight games abusing the flamethrower. And felt like an a-hole doing lmao

  • @moeuwuwu9838
    @moeuwuwu9838 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    amazing content

  • @CalamityShreds
    @CalamityShreds 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very good list. Can tell you put in a lot of time into this tier list, and this is very much in line with my thinking. Revolver helped me go on a 6-tournament win streak on my last day in grinding for Diamond in Closed Beta 1, so it's the most solid in the A tier. M11 IMO should be in B tier for the horrid range and accuracy in comparison to the XP-54, despite its better reload speed and magazine size, and is vastly inferior to the V9S.

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      M11 can shred but yeah i was inbetween A and B

  • @francisnavarette1583
    @francisnavarette1583 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    This tierlist is so well done and is probably the more objective ones out there. The niche list is also a nice addition as the flame thrower is often overhyped.

  • @menacingtm3321
    @menacingtm3321 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Awesome video! Can you do Abilities next? I really wonder if the heavies tackle is viable for high rank

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I am gathering Material for an Ability Tierlist. Will take a bit of time.
      I have been using tackle in higher rank but most people run the Shield. It is arguably stronger cause it brings more survivability for your whole team.
      But there is more clutch potential for the tackle and it can open escape or attacking routes.
      It really depends on how you play.

  • @Fallout_Jane
    @Fallout_Jane 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    In defense of the hammer, it's also great for destruction, allowing you to choose more combat oriented equipment and abilities, takes no skill or aim and looks cool. Probably still d-tier tho

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Exactly what i was thinking. I made some fun plays of just sitting under the Cashout and destroying the floor below my enemies dropping them right infront of me.

    • @zs9652
      @zs9652 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@swaleesIf it killed quicker I think it could move into niche tier.
      Honestly I am not sure why it does not do more damage compared to it's slow animation.
      The one thing I would buff on it is slightly better damage on primary shot and slightly quicker animation.
      Almost or actual one hit kill lights on secondary shot.
      I try to main Hammer but I don't play ranked as I need to get a team.

    • @dr.cheeze5382
      @dr.cheeze5382 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@zs9652 but it does oneshot light? It two shots medium too i think

    • @zs9652
      @zs9652 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dr.cheeze5382 Perhaps with a headshot? In chaos I often land the strong hit but it never one shots a light at full health

    • @RoadkillLaharl
      @RoadkillLaharl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@zs9652it does 200 damage on heavy swing

  • @TheChaosBrain
    @TheChaosBrain 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very nice video thanks for the informations, one point to the flamethrower. I find it hard to see in close ranges, where the fire is coming from because my entire screen is orange.

  • @UraeusAskarell
    @UraeusAskarell 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice vid, ty!

  • @Atomglow
    @Atomglow 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The SA1218 is what I use with my Heavy Build. I use the the Shield Ability to close the gap on people. It's pretty much a shoot/don't shoot game where you are more in control.
    Paired with a medium with a healgun it absolutely shreds through teams.

  • @tilioleluherne7796
    @tilioleluherne7796 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I didn't knew you but i just subscribed and liked, very good video and very nice editing

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      TY sir, I didnt know you but now I do.

  • @fero5070
    @fero5070 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    SA1218 is the best gun in the game as you can set up scenarios where the enemy team has to push for short-range fights
    My squad is all diamond where we play 2x medium with AK for long range while the heavy shields. We swap to protecting the tank with heal and cover fire while the tank is main DPS short range with the SA1218.
    Super well rouned and hard to kill comp with defibs, shield and heal. Let us take vertical from above and below with tanks rpg and C4.
    With zip line and a jump pad for each medium we have a lot of mobilety and always helps our tank to contest high ground and move quickly around the map.

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That is exactly what i had in mind as the Meta comp atm. I would say double med or double Heavy depending on how you play.
      But yes the shotgun melts as soon as enemies come close and with the shield you can swap between long range sustain and close range burst dmg with your team.
      double defib and heal definetly gives much needed survivability.

  • @Orphilite
    @Orphilite 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good tier, personally I'm a shotgun person but i agree with the tier.
    beta is done kinda miss playing it. Haha hope you make more videos bro. Take care
    Hopefully they'd fix the servers and all the bugs soon, this game's got alot of potential.

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Already on more Videos for the launch. There will be alot trust me

  • @Tetsuo6995
    @Tetsuo6995 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice tabs you got there :D

  • @almaz7054
    @almaz7054 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video. Can you make another tier list but with skills.
    Based on top ranking players loadouts.

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Im working on that 👍

  • @leemcgee5164
    @leemcgee5164 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    An extra "pro" to flamethrower and grenade launcher is that they bypass riot shields and mesh shields. Not too significant, but can be used for counterplay

  • @Profanaties
    @Profanaties 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great vid 👍👍

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank youuu 🤙

  • @Bagginsess
    @Bagginsess 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think the sniper should be S tier or at least A tier.
    - It's potential to cloak and pick off incoming teams shouldn't be understated.
    - You can also help your team by picking off enemies running away or make a 1v1 a 2v1 because of your range.
    - You can scout with the zoomed scope to see farther than anyone else to gain valuable map knowledge.
    - At close range you can accurately no scope with it turning it into a shotgun.
    - It is a great flanking and pestering weapon.
    - Combine it with the stun gun and you can easily 1v1 anything.
    It just has a very high skill gap and requires and evasive sneaky play style.

  • @zhenyadotsenko8783
    @zhenyadotsenko8783 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks 👍

  • @xylox2409
    @xylox2409 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a controller player I can say you are entirely right about the 95, it has been my go to weapon I really love it, also I saw you playing grappling, and I wanted to know what you think of the "invisibility" one which I use

  • @histxmi9579
    @histxmi9579 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    man dope video frrr, can u please do also for utility? like lets say for a medium class agg playstyle and stuff like that

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Im working on that. Dont know when I can release it

    • @histxmi9579
      @histxmi9579 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Take ur time

  • @PoutyBun
    @PoutyBun 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    While sledgehammer is meant to be a niche, fun pick - I feel like it wouldn't really hurt if it were a solid alternative to RPG so heavy had a more variable kit. Have it be a utility that has 3 or more charges that regenerate either over time or upon damage taken/received.

    • @Ostrid1
      @Ostrid1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yea the hammer should be a equipment not a main weapon.

    • @raiandesu2538
      @raiandesu2538 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      hard agree

    • @hugegamer8004
      @hugegamer8004 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well in my opinion there is. I run hammer or shotgun with dome shield, C4 and mines. Works like a charm. I think the rpg is powerfull, but heavily overrated. I get way more kills, and consistent kills at that withh just mines AND C4 instead of one or the other with rpg

  • @lulwhat3179
    @lulwhat3179 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Its interesting how you got the name wrong of so many guns xD
    Very good Video I didnt know anything about the Damage now everything makes sense

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Im not good with names xD leave me alone

  • @daverobinson2157
    @daverobinson2157 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice vid 👍

    • @swalees
      @swalees  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you 👍

  • @Mista_Cassla
    @Mista_Cassla 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    Great vid man, hope you get monetized soon!

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      While it would be nice its not the goal.
      Just want to bring Information to the people that will help them in their goals.

    • @ThefamousMrcroissant
      @ThefamousMrcroissant 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@swalees Good man.

    • @therealouro
      @therealouro 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yeah thats not happening... he has the hub up in the background if u look at tabs

  • @tairos5055
    @tairos5055 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video

  • @quadratic5392
    @quadratic5392 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I honestly think that saber is much better than riot shield and should be but in c, maybe even b tier. It is one of my favorite weapons, and while i did struggle against three stacks, you can still absolutely destroy people with dashes, you just kind of have to look out for lights and mediums and get close to them with dashes to then use secondary attack and do another dash to make them miss their shots to then strike again with heavy attack, this will kill both mediums and lights and the outplay potential with dashes is insane if you know how to really use them well. Sometimes a tazer gun is necessary to secure a kill tho. The two problems i had the most with are cashouts on moving platforms, and heavies because you stand absolutely no chance against a flamethrower and it is really hard to dodge most of lewis and m60 bullets by dashing when they have such big magazines. Not to mention heavies overall monstrous amounts of health

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I guess the saber could be a bit higher. But as you said it struggles against heavy builds what is the most prominent class in High rank atm and people playing close together.

  • @gustavriisager6049
    @gustavriisager6049 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, a lot of great observations. I have to say tho, the heavy shotgun is probably the best gun in the game. You say they can play long range to counter, but how will they contest the cashout then? Also, heavy can use mesh shield to force close range.

  • @killer5s
    @killer5s 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    2 medium nade launchers is super broken. It can be inconsistent at times but when it hits it hurts. Pair it up with a turret and a jump pad u can spam all day while being hard to aim. Ultimate defence when cashing out. 2 shots light 3 shots medium 4 shots heavy.

    • @naron8302
      @naron8302 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right, i was kind of disappointed that there was no data for the nade launchers at all. I think it's the best defence gun in close quarters when you're paired with the shield of a heavy and a hard hitting light.

  • @ljktrnr8102
    @ljktrnr8102 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When the time to kill is that close between ak and the pistol for example, it doesn’t really make a difference that much unless the ak guy has the slowest reactions and can’t react in time

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yes but if you miss one shot on the Revo its 1/6th of your damage potential gone. and it instantly shoots to over 2 seconds.

    • @ljktrnr8102
      @ljktrnr8102 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@swalees ye furthering my point ttk isn’t really everything in this game imo

  • @solkvist8668
    @solkvist8668 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’ve been playing this game like crazy (currently top 1000 but last beta top 250) and I’d say this is a pretty good list! My only things I’d change to different spots are the shotgun (S) and flamethrower (A). The shotgun is limited by range but with so many shield effects and the requirement to get close to a cash box means that the range aspect is almost never relevant. I just use cover in buildings or stay off rooftops in those scenarios where they have range, or simply use mesh shield and walk forward. I’d argue it is the best heavy weapon, with Lewis gun being quite close even if it serves a bit of a different role. Flamethrower is a bit of a weird one. It’s DPS is poor, but because of all the things I just mentioned about range not being as big of a problem you can just make it very hard to beat you. Its real strengths are its ability to remove gas (makes it much easier to steal), and the fact that you are effectively blind while being shot by it. While it’s time to kill isn’t rapid it wins simply because you can’t see the target anymore. This can be used in top 100 ranked and my team nearly beat lezduit, mouzer and Nate with that flamethrower. It’s definitely not the best heavy weapon, but it really does excel in the ranked tournament modes. Otherwise super good list! While I’ve seen all of these weapons in ranked before, it’s often due to trolling or simply ignorance. The good ones mentioned are genuinely good choices.

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its good to see other higher ranked players agreeing with it.
      Yes some guns can be changed depending on how your team plays around it. And yes i would put the shotgun in S tier now. Think i just needed more time to learn it.

    • @apexplayer868
      @apexplayer868 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also top 1000 and 100% agree. People that say shotgun and flamethrower are mid because of range are trippin big time. Its the same argument I hear for apex legends vs controller. "just play range" doesnt work. 99% of apex fights end close range and theres nothing you can do to change that so with just that information controller is automatically better. Same goes here. You cant steal a cashout from range so im not sure how thats going to help you. A smart tank is just going to AFK on point with his mesh shield + dome and not allow you to pick him off. As soon as you walk up you get 3 tapped by the shotty. Its not even close the shotgun is completely broken and if it releases in this state its probably going to kill the game, its completely overpowered.

  • @darc4165
    @darc4165 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i think sawed off is so good with invicibility combo its just so strong when you get close to opponent and shoot its a guarantee kill and total fun

  • @bkeith9236
    @bkeith9236 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    solid video

  • @nemesis2359
    @nemesis2359 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You definitely need to reuse the medium and light shotgun. The sub 3 shot potential with crazy movement makes them insane picks. They do so much damage if you can hit your shots. 144 on the 1887 and 130 on the db with a clean body shot. Just pick off the team one by one by flanking or playing off of your heavy's shield.

    • @nimrodszocs2795
      @nimrodszocs2795 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The light shotgun is just really bad compared to other SGs, you can’t really teamfight with it and you need to be in literally knife range for it to be able to 2 shot. The medium one however is pretty good because it has decent range and good spread, and with good movement it can be really good

  • @supriyaghosh7622
    @supriyaghosh7622 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    U have earned a sub

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you kind stranger

  • @orionfell
    @orionfell 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    First accurate tier list on this game lol
    Though I’d put akm in a because you can’t win fights against lights or heavies if they hit their shots

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      True the medium class is in a weird spot with the best Util in the game but suffering in 1v1s because of their weapons.
      I agree compared to all other guns the AKM doesnt shine.
      But AKM is still the strongest gun for the medium class and since it is the most played class in Diamond (typical 2 med 1 Heavy) I put it in S Tier.

  • @davidgabriel5125
    @davidgabriel5125 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hey i also like the website you have open to the right next to the tierlist site.

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah thats my spreadsheet obviously.

  • @iamsonicxshadow
    @iamsonicxshadow 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks

  • @georginnerhofer1922
    @georginnerhofer1922 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    as a Owervatch Support Main i have to say that i would put the shield in the Niche tiere. Example: if you team up with two friends who now what you are playing you can heal them stay behind and if sombody gets an angle of atack on you you put your shield down and give a quick call out to you Friend so they can protect you so 70% of the match is me providing a constant source of heal for them

  • @sadovuato
    @sadovuato 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Only thing I disagree with is the double barrel since it’s TTK can potentially 2 shot all classes, and one shot lights very consistently and 2 shot mediums from a good 10 meters out. Issue is range and the low health pool of light, but I feel an oversight made is that the grapple and dash can be used to close the distance. Especially for a class like heavy where you can dash around them and easily get a 3 shot or possibly a 2 if you’re aim is good enough.
    Grapple makes landing shots very very consistent since you can control your movement so well.
    Another oversight is the “range” argument seems a bit odd since this game is severely close range. You aren’t fighting at more than 10-15 meters at 95% of the objectives, whether it be a cash out or a vault. The range isn’t an issue for both medium and light classes, since you can very consistently 2 tap them.
    If the range is an issue, you can expend grapple or 1-2 dashes to close the distance, use goo grenades, or use positioning and lights speed to just move around the map to a better position and secure an easy 1-2 tap. It’s the same reason I found the sniper bad that I found the shotgun good. Range isn’t ever an issue since you’re always fighting at point blank range.
    It’s why the flamethrower is deemed “over powered” even though it’s not really all that. It’s just a close ranged weapon and most objectives you’re not fighting from 20-30 meters out, and if you are 30 meters out, a single grapple or a bounce pad can close the distance in a matter of seconds.

  • @Amarant187
    @Amarant187 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, you should blur out the other windows you have open in your browser

  • @ns-Nishy
    @ns-Nishy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice tab

  • @standkira
    @standkira 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    tysm man helped me alot with this tier list♥ but do you know how to invite friends to a party team, I added a friend but couldnt invite him and it was annoying

    • @swalees
      @swalees  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I might be a bit late. But If its over steam then you should see your friends online. Otherwise on the top right you can open the social tab and have only ingame friends and add them with their ingame tag and should be able to send an invite after they accepted. I had the problem where one of my friends couldnt invite me but i could invite him

  • @michaelkhiev2070
    @michaelkhiev2070 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've been really trying to make the medium nade launcher work but man it's minimum damage sometimes is so insanely low I think if they made the minimum damage like 20-30% higher and or made it 5-6 shots instead of 4 it would be an easy A tier. It feels so good to 3 shot a medium class but ahhhh when you have to use 4 shots on them it feels so bad. And the reload when it's completely empty..... hope they buff next beta or full release

  • @franpschorr3646
    @franpschorr3646 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Subbed

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanked

  • @bobbytoodle8912
    @bobbytoodle8912 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    W vid
    love to see more

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There will be more

  • @vktengizik9916
    @vktengizik9916 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice one

  • @MarioMunozBro
    @MarioMunozBro 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imo the grenade launcher for heavy is A at least , impacting an opponent blows right away and it’s amazing for staying away from the cash out and just unloading from afar and does a lot of AoE as well to any teams hoarding around it , I’ve had a real good time using it and no one knows how to handle it

  • @omarhammami5600
    @omarhammami5600 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice video, and I subscribe for sure. but did that PH tab helped you on editing this video ? hhhhhh

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My wrist hurted after doing all of the research for this video

  • @gedi362
    @gedi362 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice vid! Only thing i would have enjoyed more is if you would have edited the gameplay a lil more on fullscreen :) and not so Random in the cornor. Much love

    • @swalees
      @swalees  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah i learned while editing and if it was for that i wouldve changed almost everything cause I think it couldve been way better.
      But going to make my next project better than the previous one.

  • @ley_0304
    @ley_0304 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    deserve more subs.

  • @somerandom3291
    @somerandom3291 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Video so good people didn't notice the open tabs lmao

  • @Ravenlord47111
    @Ravenlord47111 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i respect your tier list as a sword and dash user lol.

  • @Hunter-js6st
    @Hunter-js6st 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The medium nade Launcher got me into the finals (not on competitive), but we lost because we were one teammate short

  • @chazzerine7650
    @chazzerine7650 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The sledgehammer seems perfect to roleplay a horror movie antagonist 😅

  • @CommandoBlack123
    @CommandoBlack123 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In this game I think long to mid range is more niche than close range. So many fights end up being close range that I feel in-transit fights that benefit the ak are more niche than fights that would benefit a shotgun

  • @skyk3624
    @skyk3624 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey I like this tier list but the medium shotgun should be a niche and this is because if you are really quick with your shots you can one shot lights and mediums and 1-2 tap heavy’s depending on if they have been hit recently