The Terminids Lore and Biology
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มี.ค. 2024
- The Terminids are a fascinating species of intergalactic bugs that could spell doom to Super Earth. But, I am here to tell you the truth that the Super Earth Ministry of Truth won't tell you. The bugs.... Transmission ended
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I found an illegal broadcast
Me: ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
500kg pure democracy
is that the terminal or the eagle
@@plotheplayer6462 That is 500kg of democracy. So yes, its the Eagle. 😁
@@plotheplayer6462 🦅
Wow a very unique original comment
I find the idea of a bug that "thinks" incredibly offensive.
I'd like to know more!!
Some would even say, treasonous.
Dotto
Fick Ditto
I mean damn Ditto
Bro, the biles go from: That one fat kid at school who gets bullied to the 7 foot tall body builder at the gym
Bile titan glow up lmao
The first time I saw the bile titan I freaked out and when it used its bile spew laser I screamed gojira
By liberty the sheer amount of thought crimes in 12 minutes
I really like this idea. Like Alot.
Reminds me of how some ants have "majors" and "super Majors" or just how some ants have a warrior cast.
Thank you!! Glad you enjoyed the idea. It really seems like the devs did their bug research when they were making the terminids
This seems like treason
@@natesgameboxsome ant hives even have ants with big flat heads made specifically to block the anthill entrances, reminds me of hive guards
Agreed this made me think of ants too!
They all come from similar larve though and just fill one role their entire lives. They don't go from larve to worker to soldier or something.
From what i remember from helldiver 1 lore, the bile titan is still considered a juvenile.
erm *what.* a *juvenile?*
I’m afraid to see an adult
Or the hive mind
@@PlushleftyyyyBasically a teenager
i'm guessing terminids will have a leviathan like starcraft 2 for the zerg and it's so massive it dwarfs even the largest Carriers and Battle cruisers like terrifyingly larger (at true scale , not ingame). imagine we have to fight a massive creature so large it takes up 1/6th of the entire map. I can't wait for the future of this game.
Yeah they are considered small on their home planets.
There are Bile warriors. They explode in green when shot
Yup, there's also leapers which are baby hunters
@@cringejoestar9791Pouncers**
@@Apha-Apha you right
I think it's a case of male and female versions of the same caste
Bile warriors could be a midpoint between female scavengers and bile spewers.
Pouncers are younger hunters.
As for Nursing Spewers, could that be a alternate path for Bile Spewers that did not evolve into Bile Titans? Think about it, they would not need defensive armor if all they would do is stay deep within the bug nests to nurse hatchlings
Calling the ministry of truth. There will be a democracy officer at your residence momentarily. Spreading blasphemy will not be tolerated.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say they operate pretty much how a termite and ant colony does, which would explain the variations all being so similar to the next smallest in line, traceable all the way back to both scavengers.
I find the idea that the terminids are sentient incredibly undeomocratic
Oh god the titan is a sex icon
Of all comments I expected to see when I turned my computer on today, this was never what I expected.
Well done helldiver, you won the best comment. Here’s a medal! 🏅
This needs to be pinned immediately
'Oh no he's HOT!!!'
So the Bile titan is a slay queen? Damn
There's also something to be said about the egg size. A scavenger sure as hell couldn't lay that.
......but what if they can ( like out of necessity? because it's race all died), can it change it's sex at will to repopulate the terminids? now that is gender fluidity if i've ever seen it.
I like how the bugs offered hug and we just fucking killed them, genetically modifed them and harvested their corspe 😂😅
They offered only communism.
Treason
@@Chunketymonketyz trason? *Truth*
@@internetuser320 i don’t understand why you think those words are related in any way
I’m calling a democracy officer
Bile Titans are considered small on their home planet
*medium
@@derpanzerfish2517 nah dude not even medium, they are SMALL
ARE THEY GOING TO INTRODUCE EVEN BIGGER BUG TYPES?@@matthewgerlach5775
elaborate
@@mazda9588there's always a bigger bug
Its not a secret, there are hive lords hiding in plain sight. Fossils of them and in helldivers 1 it was a boss.
Plot twist, they're not fossils, they're molts
@@CrazyDutchguyswell that’s not terrifying at all
I love the way this game makes fun of overzealous patriotism and humanities horrid psychological pitfalls. Polarizes the fans in a very useful way.
In 2024, and game that can generate buzz outside the game. Will probably do well. I’m here for it, helldivers has been great. Baldurs gate, lethal company. Great year for games so far
100% Even Palworld did super good by statements like "slave pokemon with guns" buzzing controversy outside the actual game.
Aren't the terminids vastly different from the bugs from the first game due to genetic tampering/modifications done by Super Earth? As well as the whole bile line being a result of toxic chemical spills?
Oooooo I like that take!! Yes! The bugs were highly modified, but I hadn’t considered that the bile spewing traits could have come directly from either intentional modification, or accidental spills. I like the take!
@@natesgamebox Yeah its been actually stated by the devs from official accounts that the bile line came from toxic chemical spills
We did nothing but farm the bugs, totally
Orange - warrior - commander
Orange - hive guard - charger
Small - hunter - stalker
Small - hunter - shrieker
Green - bile spewer - bile Titian
Green - bile spewer - nursing spewer
Scavenger > Warrior > Brood Commander
Scavenger > Warrior > Nursing Spewer > Potentially Bile Spewer
Scavenger > Hive Gaurd
Scavenger > Warrrior > Charger > Behemoth Charger
Spitter > Bile Warrior
Spitter > Bile Spewer
Spitter > Bile titan
Pouncer > Hunter > Stalker
Pouncer > Hunter > Shrieker
@@theneef174 I suspect nursing spewers are connected to scavengers rather than little spitters.
@@theneef174 theres a bile version of the warrior and the bile spitter is the bile version of a nursing spewer. nursing spewer goes to orange
@@xeno3332 Ah, true, I'll edit.
Isn’t stalkers human made dna modified hunter?
So whos gonna tell him about the genetic experimention and how we aren't fighting first contact bugs at all or the bugs in the first game
aren’t they basically rabid animals now rather than sentient like they used to be
What about hive lords?
@@isaacdayton4962 I think they are very much sentient but evolved into a hivemind and started mutating for war.
@@The-Enemy-Medic from my understanding they are basically so hostile to everything else that they wipe planets of almost all life. It’s why the Terminid super colony is such an issue.
@christinarieser2025 we see the sheds of them and notice the seismic activity on bug worlds?
its not pure conjecture, we know that bile titans are technically "small" bugs
we absolutly need bigger bugs for the higher dificultys. i mean u get bile titans as mission targets on difficulty 6 i think. we need somthing really big as mission target for difficulty 9.
@@J.Severin im not kidding, thats their designation
@@Randomrobot-fs4du me neither. 😁
@@J.Severin yeah, i want a hive lord
@@J.SeverinHive lords will start showing up of we progress into the Terminid Home sector
Some species of Ants have several queens and therefore don't send out flyers to breed with others so bile titans acting as queens makes total sense
Bile Spewers and Bile Titans have forelegs, they're just much smaller. Chargers also have small claws folded up underneath them, next to their heads. All terminids have six legs.
I felt the non spewing scavenger looks like tiny chargers
have you seen when they stamp their feet like one as well? now I don't want to sound like a bug sympathiser but its cute as shit they think their scary
@@unwariestthreegames1151 its like chihuahuas thinking they are the biggest dog ever
I’m gonna be honest the bug life cycle theory was kinda obvious I figured it was just implied
same but I'm glad I wasn't the only one xD
Same. I'm just watching this kinda bewildered by people not seeing it. It's obvious.
This isn't what "evolution"means. You're talking about metamorphosis.
ah yes, the semantics officer. Right up there with the freedom officer.
Metamorphosis is basically a type if evolution
@@cornbread6556Evolution is change, adaptation. This is just getting bigger and older
@@cornbread6556not really, metamorphosis is a natural stage in a species' life span. Evolution is a change in an organism's genetics, changing how that lifespan plays out.
Humans f.e. don't evolve from children to adults to elders
@@Auvas_Damaskpretty sure there’s some significant change when it between the likes of bile spewers to bile titans or warriors-hive guard-charger.
I would say though that those changes would be more apt to be called metamorphosis I can imagine as a warrior got to the right age it would burry or cocoon itself and come out later as a hive guard and then once again into a charger
For all the people saying he forgot bugs. Not all the bugs have a single picture of just themselves and no background so its easier to just skip them than actually play and grap a screenshot and edit the background out
Now THAT is incredibly true. Thank you for bringing that up!! I was able to find good pics for most of the bugs.
But I’m working on the automatons video next, mannnnn there is not many good pics around for some of them.
Well. There is a hive lord 👀 that could spawn bug breaches. So there’s your master hive mind
It's sort of reminiscent of how aliens worked in the game X-COM: Apocalypse
"Hold the Scavenger. hold them gently like hamburger, squish them squish them all."
Transcript from *The Super Earth Guide to Raising Terminids for Intelligent Super Earth Citizens*
Most of the changes were done by exsperimentation and studies conducted by us.
The Officers admit it on our ship; futher more what we have are different sub-species of bugs and that connects to how we have nursing spewers and Bile spewers
ORANGE
Scavenger - Nursing Spewer
Hive Guard - Charger
Pouncer - Shrieker
Hunter - Stalker
Warrior - Brood Commander
GREEN
Bile Spitter - Bile Warrior
Bile Spewer - Bile Titan
Hive Lords are father of all
I would say you’re close but just a bit off, I would say they are not based on sexes, but more like an ant colony having differing features based on job. Such as workers, warrior, repletes, and queen. Similarly there are 3 scout variants that I think start the lines off the green bile ones, the orange ones, and the mini hunter ones.
What about termites? I'm pretty sure some of them spit acid and have a termites have 50/50 I think
@jeremym4451 potentially although there are also species of ants that do all sorts of stuff, be it shoot acid, chemically brainwash other ants or use a hardened forehead like a door. There's even one species that explodes when it's losing a fight/is overwhelmed and can't win.
@@cringejoestar9791 I know ants are quite insane but I'm throwing everything at it
@jeremym4451 entirely valid actually, from what can be gathered terminids also have a closed circulatory system and potentially also bones of some kind so they've got bits of various things scattered into them with a surface of insectoid
@@jeremym4451well they are called TERMInids. The TERMIte influence seems more likely than ants
Imagine there's another species that hunts bile titans
They‘re considered medium enemies in the code and the first game
Personally, I don't think the Charger is an older Hive Guard, Guards look like they are at their end of the life cycle, like adults, but warriors either develop into a guard, or brood commander, and I think the reason Chargers look so different to most other bugs is because it's just a mutation that can occur. I don't think any other bug has a solid grey chitinous exoskeleton.
Hive guards and brood commanders look so similar I've confused them in the field. I suspect they are directly related developmentally, with chargers being either a separate branch off of warriors or literally just overgrown scavengers that skipped the warrior stage altogether.
You bring up a great point here. I like that idea as well. My thought was just armor leads to more armor. But that’s true that nothing else looks like that.
They could be kind of like the dachshunds of the space bug world. Just unique little guys
Super earth did do genetic experimentation on the terminids during the 100 years of peace so the bugs we are fighting now are slightly different from the bugs that were fought in the past I believe we can safely assume that any developmental or genetic anomaly / discrepancy that simply wouldn't make sense in the life cycle is probably a example of that
A lot of Eusocial bugs, (the hive species) don't really conform to male/female biology (or gender ideas) There's typically three-ish sexes, depending on development. The scavenger-guard-charger/scavenger-hunter-stalker could be Showing that sexual trimorphism seen in real world hive species. However, that does beg the question of where do the shreikers come into this?
The shriekers are a mutation created from the termicide the bile line was specifically stated by the devs to be a result of chemical spills there was obviously a developmental cycle but it is heavily being influenced by outside genetic interference and experimentation
I think the flyers might’ve evolved from the stalkers since the stalkers have those wings and are really light, fast, agile, and can jump high so maybe the flyers are their metamorphosis. Or maybe some hunters become stalkers and others metamorphosize into flyers.
100% agree! In my mind it’s kind of their final form to be able to fly and capture prey. Also I’m considering making an updated version of this video since some new bugs, like the flyers, have come out since I made it!
Ants are a really good example of how a single species can have a large variety of genomes due to the diet or some form of influence when they are in the egg stage and I believe the terminids work off a similar system hence why we seem to have the three smaller bug variants of the ankle biters that then branch off into other sub species like some become stalkers while the other winged ones become shriekers. It's really cool the details they put into this game and I can't get enough of it.
Another thing, if you look at the Bile Titan's mission description, it mentions having to take them out so the bugs can stop expanding, something along those lines, so Bile Titans likely did lay the eggs but we have confirmation via mission description
Imagine what Helldivers would be like if we could ride these things like horses.
Hive Guards are actually based on Turtle Ants - a species of ants that have a head that's shaped to seal the entrance to the hive
Bile Titans are classified as "small" on their home planet. There are much bigger Teminids, called Hive Lords, which, as he name suggests, hosts an entire colony of bugs, Bile Titans included. Think Factory Strider from Atomatons, but much, much, oh so much bigger.
Automatons are trying to get bugs on their side. We need to stop that.
The grandfather's b01 helmet has to be my favorite version of it.
The small green spitter now does damage over time
You missed the pouncers->hunters evolution but I totally agree with orange scavengers evolving into either warriors or pouncers, depending on their infantry vs special forces designation.
Reminds me of how ants often have different body plans for different jobs, while still being one species
Liberty has left this traitor’s hearts.
in the first game there was a bug called a hive lord, i cant think of any place to put it in the evolution. also, i think the bile and nursing spewers were selectively bred to produce more mineral 710. I wouldn't say that they evolved sepretly, i think thst they are like other hive insects, and that diffrent bugs serve diffrent purposes in the hive
I like to call the green ones “mountain dew (insert class here)”
You're missing like 4 types of bugs, Grandpa!
I thought the same thinks as you since my first time playing this game and also don't forget that green acid could be very much a deffensive evolution for not getting eaten (as acid would damage other party and just killing for eating the head would be a waste of both time and energy)
When talking about eusocial insects, they tend to have ways of manipulating larvae to develop into specific forms like the door ant, or how bees feed royal jelly to produce a queen. Vying for positions like commander are foreign concepts to those in a eusocial system where function determines action.
That said, even in species where their is conflict for role (such as gamergates like trapjaws), there is little change to overall structure.
I’ve had the same thought, specifically about the bile line.
I got a overwolf ad in the corner with a Terminid on it lol
The bile spewer can split off into a nursing spewer, also, the Stalker could become a screamer, the flying one
I think term you are searching for is "morphs" when talking about same species/different look thing in bugs :P
Which is really cool idea for sentient bug specias, you would expect of it to have super complex morphology and social system
Ngl the voice transitions are pretty funny
when you think about it, each one being simply a different stage of life would make certain balancing decisions make much more sense. the chargers are lesser in number, and their armor on their heads more fragile because they've had less time. less big bugs are around, and more small ones are.
There's also a scene in the trailer for HD2 where the helldiver pops the bile titan's head off with a rocket and all the surrounding bugs that were facing the titan were in utter horror. This is when I figured they might be one or species or group.
Both the bugs and the bots are far easier to root for than super earth lmao
I love how good of a job the devs did at making the game fun to play, but also very clear we aren’t exactly the good guys
Treason
I'm reporting you
How like what situation would I actively betray humanity like yeah I get it super Earth isn't exactly what us modern western folk would consider the perfect society but compared to getting eaten by bugs or literally slaughtered like cattle by the robots have you seen their bases all of the corpses they have in crates they literally have cages and altars and shit
That sounds like treason to me.
Another version of this idea is that the bugs are eusocial like ants and termites. There's different types of let's say ants, worker and warrior ants are the same but have different roles like you mentioned in the video
I thought it was common knowledge that the terminid types are just different stages of their life cycle..
im guessing the terminid diversity is akin to how eusocial insects back home on Super Earth have soldiers, workers, drones, Queens, etc. The Bugs have just a much higher diversity of variants.
I'm actually more inclined to believe they are different evolution strands based on certain goals for the nest with the bile spewers being a big one.
It isn't ever explained what type of food terminids eat, but I've always theorized that they eat both organic and inorganic material as it would explain how they thrive of on plants they infest. It would also explain why scavengers are called exactly that as it would be an Alternative to the hunters as a good source of food.
The big one for me though are the spewers and there corrosive bile that mostly like is able to break down materials for the hive.
The idea that chargers are evolved or older hive gaurds makes complete sense when you remember that charges will often hibernate underground in the center of a large nest and awaken when a threat is detected! I also wonder whether any understanding of the terminids biology can be drawn from earth bugs. Fun thought crimes to ponder about non the less!
I personally live on a planet not used by super earth, and have gained authorization to raise and farm scavengers, it did not go well for the wild life
Heracy! Terminate this illegal broadcast!
I’m on it sir
Can you do apart 2 of this, about the new flying bugs, and the up and coming truelly massive worm bugs. 😊
You know I bet all the bile could be used for breaking down the food that all the “oranges” bring back. Like digestive acid that could break food down to allow for the other more specialized terminids (who probably lack more complicated digestive systems) to consume and continue the hunt.
Damn I was hoping you would bring the bugs in Helldivers 1
I personally think the stalker is an experiment since its so far removed and spawns the nest near research stations ive noticed
All a good citizen need to know about the bugs is they bleed, thus, they can die.
Thank you for helping me understand the bug. Now I will defeat it!
The charger looks a lot like a huge scavenger to me. About as chunky, about the same shape, just with thicker armor
remember that most of the termanids we fight are mutated by Super Earth not just regular evolved and adapted animals
I had already figured that they were grown versions of one another.
Leafcutter ants will create little outposts around the trees to keep an eye on the forest and get a wider hunting ground. Sounds like stalker lairs to me.
The terminids have aesthetic characteristics of termites and giand water bugs while not having antennae like fleas or insect close relatives proturas. However, I feel that the stalker and hunters do have a resemblance to Mayflies and the charger with giant water bug. Also those terminal filaments looks like the giant water bug terminal filaments. I am no expert but went on a rabbit hole to find bugs with no antennae (like fleas) and with similar looking terminal filaments (giant water bug and Mayflies and some termites).
I wish you showed more bug types like the normal scavenger and also the younger huntet varient known as the pouncer
I do really like the male/female theory although whats the deal with the nursing spewer given its just a yellow bile spewer
You're right. There is a bigger bug. It's called a hivelord, and it digs tunnels throughout a planet for the hive. They don't surface very often but can be forced to surface using tech.
It is worth noting that the winged bugs are canonically a result of a failed pesticide, so possibly something that was in their evolutionary history that the pesticide triggered the latent genes for, akin to how you can chemically cause axolotls to grow into a relatively normal salamander despite their life cycle no longer naturally leading them to go through that change.
one more thing... in the trailer u see a helldiver shooting a bile titans head of... this titan is sourroundet by warrioir bugs, seemingly interacting with them...
Have to add the mini jumpers and shriekers. FOR SCIENCE
Thought crimes observed! up down right up down left up down!
(More seriously love the video and I agree)
I will happily get up down right up down left up downed to hear you loved the video! Thank you!
@@natesgameboxlast words
After 300 generations, I think the bugs get smarter and bigger.
Sweet liberty, way too much treason in one video
The rear portion of an insect is actually called the abdomen. The mid section where the legs are connected is the Thorax
funny thing
I compared the Terminids to the Tyranids through how they're Arthropods with Dragon/Bat-like wings instead of Insect-like wings
before I even thought about how close their names are
Imagine we harvest the Juices, steal the ability of cloaking from the Stalkers.
Im guessing the relation of the nursery spewer and the bile spewer is that the former forfeited armor since it probably prioritized nursing the baby bugs
There's a nursing hunter...
Super Earth initially found rich deposits of oil on Terminid controlled planets. Super Earth only realized halfway through the war for said oil that Terminids decay rapidly into oil. (Source: Ship scientist quotes and war update logs from Helldivers 1) Also 'relatively sentient' really undersells how social and intelligent the terminids are. They outmaneuvered a civilization with artillery, air support, nuclear weaponry, and rapid space travel.
The coloration of the stalker reminds me of assassin bugs
loved it thanks!
propaganda!!!!! I’m reporting you to my correctional officer
honestly i think there are 3 categories of bugs
*Orange bugs:*
Hive guard --> Charger --> behemoth charger
/
scavenger --> warrior --> brood commander
*White, orange winged bugs:*
Shrieker
/
pouncer --> hunter --> stalker
*darker, bile spewing bugs:*
bile spitter --> bile warrior --> nursing spewer --> bile spewer --> bile titan
based on colour schemes and physical characteristics, like wings or bile spitting, they can be divided into 3 'catergories' or life cycles that look distinctively different from eachother, so i dont think its just a difference between male and female, but rather they operate on potentially a 3 sex basis
I think the orange and green are separate species or subspecies, but both strains have different metamorphic stages, ending with the bile titan and charger respectively. I do think the hunters, stalkers and flying ones are a branch of the orange metamorphic branch.
Now question, what about the orange “nursing spewers” is that they’re called. It’s light armor where the green “bile spitter” is medium armor
Hmm I felt a wiff of TREASON...
You forgot about the 3rd vary small bug the pouncer. Which is the beginning stages of the stalker