As someone who was lucky enough to catch the paint drying stream live, I can confirm. The paint stream was a fucking _riot_ and one of my favorite things to have been present for.
1:14 I hate this argument, just because something is designed for kids it A) doesn’t mean that it can’t be entertaining for adults and B) being made for kids doesn’t mean that we can’t criticise it for not being entertaining. There are so many games that are made for kids that I still love and find entertaining despite being 19, Pokémon, the Lego Games, 90% of what Nintendo puts out is designed for kids but it is still entertaining to me as an adult.
Exactly! I grew up with the Veggietales Jonah movie computer game as one of the few video games we had, and it was a blast. I still adore it as an adult, even though I'm both 25 and no longer religious in the slightest. It's a genuinely entertaining game with a banger soundtrack that can be enjoyed even if you're not the target audience anymore. Same with my beloved ISPY Fantasy. I was devastated when I thought I'd never be able to play it again due to it being made for ancient software (ie. even if I shelled out for a cd, it wouldn't run on my computer). But I was overjoyed when I heard that it had been posted to abandonware and could be downloaded. Granted, it bugs out when you try to do essentially New Game + (ie. replay a level after completing it once, now with additional more difficult puzzles), but the base game works just fine. The puzzles aren't even difficult for me anymore, but I still love it to death and enjoy playing it
also arguing that a pokemon franchise game being boring is fine bc it's for kids is exceptionally silly bc the entire pokemon franchise is literally successful due to well-made games marketed towards kids
*"A children's story that can only be enjoyed by children is not a good children's story in the slightest."* -C. S. Lewis, friend of Tolkien and author of _The Chronicles of Narnia_
"This game was made for kids." Yeah, and you know what else was made for kids? Pokemon Mystery Dungeon. A game that has countless aspects to keep things interesting; conflict, betrayal, consequences, doubt, and other important emotions. What made it accessable to kids is that the game doesn't reset your level after every dungeon like other Rogue Likes. The kid-accessable aspect comes from making the game more accessable, not dumber.
À lot of tv shows before was aimed for Kids but actually respect them by not being dumb as fuck entertainement. The batman, justice league tv shows were way more compelling than this
The Mystery Dungeon games are also helped by…y’know, *being real games,* and having fail states, and trusting the player to pick up on mechanics and use proper strategy and inventory management to succeed instead of “pick between four options, except there’s no consequence for picking the wrong option” and “do a qte that either has no consequences for failure or that you literally cannot fail if you tried”
I wonder if we'll get another Pokemon Mystery Dungeon game. I'd love to see a modern one with quality on par with Explorers of Sky. Though to be honest, I'd also like to see a mainline game with quality on par with stuff from then. Here's hoping the upcoming Legends game got enough development time to actually shine.
@@vickypedia1308 I mean how could one forget all that when among the biggest stars in the German sphere at the time used "Jew" as an insult?? Truly such unforgettable times were had under the 2nd Merkel Cabinet😇😇
I want this to sink in. This game -Was in Development along with Sword and Shield -Was in Development along with Sword and Shields DLC -Was in Development along with BDSP -Was in development alongside Legends Arceus -Was in Development along with Scarlet and Violet -Was in development along with Scarlet and Violets DLC. All of these games were in development and came out during that time. And got less development time than this game. And all they could come up with was the movie again and made it boring. So when you look at this game remember that the development time could have gone to any other main line Pokemon game.
To be fair it doesnt necessarily mean that this game took away resources from the other games. Its more likely that it took that long simply because they didnt care about this game at all, and you can clearly see that in the product
I think "all they could come up with was the movie again and made it boring" is giving this game too much credit. They could've done better by taking the movie and haphazardly shoving gameplay into it.
@@LanceThumpingAs far as I see it, they did but severely lacked resources and time. There's still clearly a lot of love and care going into the Pokémon designs, music and many characters but the games were just... unfinished. Undercooked. It was most apparent with Scarlet and Violet since they were released in a blatantly broken state, whereas Sword and Shield had a noticable lack of content (such as the staggeringly empty and linear overworld). The list goes on.
@@GumshoeClassic For one of the most profitable franchises in existence it really is weird that they are releasing anything that people would consider undercooked.
"game is meant for kids so it's ok if it sucks" is always a dumb argument but it's a hilariously dumb one to make regarding a game in the POKEMON FRANCHISE. literally a franchise which succeeded through incredibly detailed and exciting games... marketed for kids... imagine giving your kid this game after they played one of the classic pokemon games, or even a more recent one like sun and moon or one of the switch titles that are a lil messy but have a cohesive storyline and some cool animations. any child would IMMEDIATELY go "what happened? where is the plot?where is the cool stuff???"
As someone who played like half of Detective Pikachu 1, I thought for sure the dad reveal would be later in that game. It was clear enough that I figured it out from what i played, so it wasn't a twist when i watched the movie. For them to try to still keep that information hidden in the second game is..... a choice.
@@ivoryphoenix7 No it was very clear from the first game that that twist was coming. Although this game is clearly for children so maybe it was supposed to be a secret??
I will never stop saying this but the Ace attorney bundle with 5 games is only £10 more than this game and I’m fairly certain just one of those games is longer than this one. The thing that made me really mad is that you can buy this game with a voucher on the eshop. In the same list of games that you can buy with vouchers include Botw, smash, Mario kart, Dragon quest 11, Luigi’s mansion 3, Pikmin 4, Metroid dread, Astral chain and yet Nintendo had the BALLS to drop this boring mess in there. Pokémon games as of recent have been so shit lately, I do genuinely wonder why Dan even bothers with the franchise
@sammyboi23k19 Absolutely, I hope people realize how bad recent Pokemon games are and stop buying them so they might actually put some effort into them. RTGame has stated how Ace Attorney offered a more compelling detective experience than Detective Pikachu. Despite his issues about recent Pokémon titles, he has a long history with competitive and older DS Pokémon games, along with a deep sense of nostalgia from his childhood, which continues to draw him back to the franchise. Plus he likes to make fun of Nintendo from time to time.
@@DriftKingClips Nostalgia huh?, well I guess can’t say that surprises me, if he enjoys it then more power to him. Side note but in that list of games I mentioned I very much recommend Dragon Quest 11 if you haven’t played that, it’s a more traditional RPG compared to Persona but it’s so fucking good man, well worth the money.
yeah the switch Pokémon games are lacking but they're still fun games with their own positives. scarlet and violet does have love and effort put into it but you can tell that's getting stifled because of insane crush time and a scope that's too big for the release schedule. this game is a passionless rehash of a movie that offers nothing interesting or new. this is what twitter thinks pokemon is. i feel bad for the developers who probably got put through hell and came out with this having to be on a resume.
Dan has actually said pretty recently that even he, one of Pokemon's biggest apologists, is feeling burnt out with pokemon and isn't feeling as excited for it as a whole nowadays. Still is, but wary
I still wish he played the first game first, because it was genuinely better than the sequel. But he's never gonna play it now, because this game ruined the series ;-;
@@AlmightySmorgthe game is literally a 3ds that got so delayed the platform fucking died and spent more time making a port and the game still was unfinished.
Always remember: If somebody tries to make the “BuT iT’s MaDe FoR kIdS” argument to justify a pokemon game being low quality, remind them that pokemon is the HIGHEST GROSSING MEDIA FRANCHISE ON THE PLANET, on top of the fact that being kids media doesn’t immediately mean that it’s fine for it to be low-quality. To an extent, I can accept the visuals not being top notch if the gameplay is fun (though frankly given what else is on Switch, from the very beginning all the way to now, the HIGHEST GROSSING MEDIA FRANCHISE really should do better in the visuals department), but this is just a bland package and there’s 0 excuse for it.
Also, if a story is bland for kids, I don't trust the writers to make anything of quality for adults. The entire argument is stupid because it just means the person thinks kids are stupid and shouldn't get to have good or quality writing in their media, when INTRINSICALLY, they need it MORE.
The game isn't any more entertaining for kids, it's literally just that kids haven't developed enough standards to actively reject garbage. Kids having lower standards is not an excuse to feed your kids terrible entertainment.
I liked Scarlet and Violet at 19. Despite its bugs and performance issues. You know why? Because the people making it obviously cared, and made many good Pokémon, interesting lore and characters, and overall, had a bunch of stuff to do. It was a good game, marred by the fact that it was rushed. This game never could’ve been good. It took this long, and it’s more hollow than Dusclops, who has a black hole inside of it. This game is an insult to Detective Pikachu, and to every Pokémon fan to exist. At least BDSP had extremely high difficulty, and removed HMs. This makes me want to vomit.
Being the highest grossing franchise isn't an achievement anymore, it's a privilege. Meaning that you can produce slop and people will consume them anyway. This is why indie devs should get pushed more and more. More competition always breeds more quality. ❤
All shadows are baked, and the style is not even uniform. Mons and kids have simple top down circle, while buildings and adults have longer shadow... that can stack apparently. So do dynamic light... whatever... but it looks like there is no AO too, that's why it's all so flat.
While it wasn’t this bad, the dialogue he’s mocking here was the main reason why I fell off the Sun and Moon anime. There were so many lines of dialogue that sounded like they were written for preschoolers.
Around sun and moon they also stopped trying with localization. They're just 1:1 translated instead of having language-specific grammar or expressions, which makes the whole thing feel incredibly soulless.
@@Nixahma I mean, localization doesn’t exactly work well all the time. I’d rather learn Japanese play on words to and wordplay to use later. But honestly, the localization in Scarlet and Violet is pretty damn good.
The music sounds like copyright free stock music an intern grabbed off of the internet before the game released. Also, I get it's set in the past, but why does the saturation for Harry's section make the game look as miserable as I imagine RT feels playing it?
@@wintremourn It was meant to be a 3DS game, but got delayed long enough that they had to release it on the switch for any chance to recoup the budget. It's the reason why there's no current gen Pokemon in the game, despite this releasing a whole year after Scarlet and Violet.
Like im constantly frustrated by SV and everything it could've been compared to what it is. But it's so *so* much better then this. Jesus. It makes me feel at least slightly sane for still enjoying the main series
There's something to love in a game like SV, even if there's so much I wish was better about it. Good or bad, the game is *something*. The worst thing a game can be is *boring*, and that's what detective pikachu returns is
Kids games should be good for all ages if they 3 and over in rating. “Spyro, Crash Bandicoot, Mario, Zelda, Pokemon are all games “made for kids” that have extra depth for adults with their stories, characters, level design and content built into the game.
I feel like we should, if anything, be harsher on media designed for children, why would you want your kids playing mindless slop instead of something that will engage their brain during its formative years?
Ok, people who use the:"its for kids" argument either hate kids, or absolutely despise kids, because everytime something is undeniably garbage they just say:"its for kids", im sorry, but as a kid i had such things such as early 2000's italian cartoons, the early gens pokemon games, the earlier cod titles and a ton more stuff which today is kept in high regard, as such id like the future generations to have the same, what the f*ck is this GARBAGE excuse?
it didnt even hit the corner. everything about this experience is a neverending loop of disappointment and depression and we can't escape from it edit im blind and stupid it did hit the corner oops :/
The exhausting argument of "It's made for kids" is probably why a ton of kids started gravitating towards horror games since they actually respect their audiences. (Well, the good ones anyway.)
@@BottomOfTheDumpsterFire Good for the video, that doesnt mean anything if the game runs at low frame rates. Plus, 30fps is considered low for anyone who was alive for the last 10 years
@@Zero_Shift Yes, that's my point, if the video is 30 FPS, then it's always going to look low framerate, because it is. Doesn't help that the game also runs at 30 FPS as well.
the twist of harry being pikachu in the movie was good, because it was actually a mystery up until the reveal. this game beats you over the head with it so much that YOU might merge with a pokemon
Think back to the games that we all grew up with that were amazing… kids these days also deserve to have games that give them that same feeling of amazement and it’s sad they don’t
@@laurafrakinroslin And Legends Arceus, the entire Kirby franchise, the new Mario RPG renaissance, debatably Scarlet and Violet, Cobblemon, Legend of Zelda Echoes of Wisdom, Splatoon 3, Cult of the Lamb, Super Mario Party Jamboree, the Mario and Luigi game coming out next month, etc. Don’t worry, this game is a dud, but there are plenty of great games to raise your kids on.
mario wonder? sonic frontiers? scarlet and violet (maybe)? BREATH OF THE WILD??? kids are fine. there's definitely more slop like this game out there nowadays but most kids don't play or purposefully ask for indie titles/smaller or spinoff entries anyhow. i worked at a daycare and the kids there mostly played minecraft/fortnite/mainline pokemon but still knew what skylanders were - and *I* grew up playing those games. i think they're fine
I was in the stream for a bit back then, watched RT's video of this and now decided to watch this because YT yeetedit at me. I forgot how boring the game was. I was scrolling comments and am now actively doing Japanese on Duolingo
"Wasn't this game made for kids?" If I made a baby crib that was filled with loose screws, coated in lead paint, and fell apart the very second you put a baby down there, would you allow that because it's made for babies/kids?
40:00 I started to zone out around here but I started to come back down and the only to have Tim reiterate the same points over and over again. Why not just say everything you want to say all at once instead of wasting so much time?
It will never not be sad how gamefreak is so successful, while just putting in the bare minimum effort into any game they make. It’s even more sad that they successfully manage to sell two pretty much identical games with every main title release, under the guise of „so people can choose and trade“. In reality it’s just a marketing strategy. But no apparently Ubisoft is the worst gaming company. I’m not saying that they don’t have their flaws. But the recent Pokémon games are way more buggy and boring. The attack animations are a joke. I hate the fact that I used to be a Pokemon fan. Monster hunter stories 1 while being a spinoff has better animations and grafics and runs on the 3ds. Gamefreak has zero excuses.
I have a conspiracy theory that the reason this game is so lackluster is because it was intended to be on the 3DS like the first game, only for the plan to change and for them to put it on the Switch by just upscaling without adjusting for the empty space and lack of animations. That would also explain why there’s zero Gen 9 Pokémon in a game that came out long after Gen 9 began. They probably intended for the sequel to come out around when the movie did, which was during Gen 8.
I find it hilarious that almost every time RT has become immensly enraged. Like, genuinely, "I want to break something" mad. It's always been a kids' game.
normally I don't get the whole "jingling keys" viewer retention method, but this game, was just the perfect fit for it, the game is so boring with nothing of interest going on, like ace attorney has so much stuff happening all the time, you get sucked in instantly, detective Pikachu is like the exact opposite. I've been in an actual court session that was more interesting than this game.
1:14 Bruh My 7 year old self wouldn't wanna play this game. There is not a single child who wants to play textbox simulators. it's partially a reason why Ace attoney has only a relatively small niche audience, but atleast Ace attoney has a memeable content.
Okay first of all Ace Attorney and whatever this game is, isn't even comparable in the first place. AA actually has a compelling story, background, characters and even good investigation segments. Yes AA is extremely memeable but you can't even meme this trash that shouldn't have even been released because it accomplishes nothing.
@@corvusx5674 I am sorry... I never played either of the games, so I am just kind of comparing my personal reaction to game walkthroughs. (and since I never really finished the detective pikachu game walkthrough I was trying to give the benefit of doubt that I am too ignorant to see a good story in the yellow detective rat game)
@@mrmechpunch4653 don't worry, he doesn't see anything good in the detective pikachu game either, hes talking about how good of a game Ace Attorney is
Honestly I thought he was wrong about Minecraft Storymode since a lot of that seemed like things kids would actually like, but this uh.... this sure is a special game, huh
I just started taking multivitamins and that bit threw me off lmaoooo. There is nothing enjoyable about that grainy horse pill but it’s still better than the dialogue 😭😂
The humans from Sonic Unleashed looked MILES better than this game's characters At least in Unleashed they had personalities and different unique designs not only in their cultural clothing but their facial features
I don’t think that they do. Sonic unleashed had a really neat art style and all of the characters faces were heavily exaggerated. These people look like they’re straight out of Pokemon Go
" its for kids " Do you know what kids hate? HAVING CONSTANT BORING CONVERSATIONS IN THEIR GAMES I have little siblings, they dont freaking read what characters are saying most of the time. They would drop this game immediately
I enjoyed the original 3ds one and was sad to see the sequel turn out like that and tbh it didn't need one it already left you with enough clues to figure things out and not literally copy the film after referencing the film as far as I've heard. I have played a bit of the first investigation and its fine but I know its downhill from there
Idk, I feel we have a weird cultural problem with people hating kids so much that they want to keep them as "dumb" and as disengaged as possible. Man, kids are so cool. They wanna learn so much and be entertained too, why do you wanna make them hate life as soon as possible?
it's mostly said by people that don't understand children in any way, who believe their narrow worldview is universal because they can't put themselves in others' shoes for even a single train of thought.
You're getting this game confused with the first one on the 3ds. Though if that doesn't speak volumes of just how bad the graphics are for a switch game then nothing will. Though I do agree the corruptions were absolutely brilliant
I played an idle game literally named "Idle game 1" and there was no graphics other than a loading bar to making the number go up That was still more interesting and engaging than the gameplay I just watched
37:18 - oh no, not the dreaded "Task Failed Successfully" trope...they couldve EASILY just added a Loop Point-- Pikachu gets caught in the spinning Golem, slapstick comedy, he gets flung off, he shakes himself off, he Jumps Back On And Tries Again...but i guess, at that point, even the Devs are saying "just friggin let em Win even if they Lose"...
I feel like just from watching 19 mins of this video that no care was put into this, it's just another lazy cash grab as they milk what little milk they haven't soured with their carelessness
This was the one game that I immediately returned to the store and swapped it out with Pokemon Shining Pearl which has been a way better experience ngl
This is a 3ds game that got delayed so badly they had to release it on switch just recover some of the money, this thing is an attempt agaisnt the life if spin off games.
@@DriftKingClips the funny thing about this statement is that pokemon was never on the PlayStation iirc and the consoles Nintendo had at the time had games that felt better to play
Also of note is that the game is running at a conistent 10 fps which baffles me as to why. Its not rendering anything that intesive, and it doesnt have any real particle effects! so whats causing such awful slowdown?! Did the devs do the Banban model strat or something?
![[Vinesauce] Vinny - Detective Pikachu Corruptions](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/btoPhrxq0sM/mqdefault.jpg)
Watching paint dry with RT was literally more entertaining
So true
As someone who was lucky enough to catch the paint drying stream live, I can confirm. The paint stream was a fucking _riot_ and one of my favorite things to have been present for.
the only stream I watched was the paint drying
1:14 I hate this argument, just because something is designed for kids it A) doesn’t mean that it can’t be entertaining for adults and B) being made for kids doesn’t mean that we can’t criticise it for not being entertaining. There are so many games that are made for kids that I still love and find entertaining despite being 19, Pokémon, the Lego Games, 90% of what Nintendo puts out is designed for kids but it is still entertaining to me as an adult.
SAME
Exactly! I grew up with the Veggietales Jonah movie computer game as one of the few video games we had, and it was a blast. I still adore it as an adult, even though I'm both 25 and no longer religious in the slightest. It's a genuinely entertaining game with a banger soundtrack that can be enjoyed even if you're not the target audience anymore.
Same with my beloved ISPY Fantasy. I was devastated when I thought I'd never be able to play it again due to it being made for ancient software (ie. even if I shelled out for a cd, it wouldn't run on my computer). But I was overjoyed when I heard that it had been posted to abandonware and could be downloaded. Granted, it bugs out when you try to do essentially New Game + (ie. replay a level after completing it once, now with additional more difficult puzzles), but the base game works just fine. The puzzles aren't even difficult for me anymore, but I still love it to death and enjoy playing it
I dont think kids would even enjoy this
Imagine if Astro Bot was this soulles
also arguing that a pokemon franchise game being boring is fine bc it's for kids is exceptionally silly bc the entire pokemon franchise is literally successful due to well-made games marketed towards kids
It's so insulting that the game has the audacity to be ugly on top of being boring.
My romantic life in a nutshell
idk if I'd call it ugly, but... it's definitely lifeless.
It looks like a mobile game
Still 10000% better than scarlet and violet
@@mythosinfinite6736it’s definitely ugly
*"A children's story that can only be enjoyed by children is not a good children's story in the slightest."*
-C. S. Lewis, friend of Tolkien and author of _The Chronicles of Narnia_
its so funny how you put the friend thig first
"This game was made for kids."
Yeah, and you know what else was made for kids? Pokemon Mystery Dungeon. A game that has countless aspects to keep things interesting; conflict, betrayal, consequences, doubt, and other important emotions. What made it accessable to kids is that the game doesn't reset your level after every dungeon like other Rogue Likes. The kid-accessable aspect comes from making the game more accessable, not dumber.
À lot of tv shows before was aimed for Kids but actually respect them by not being dumb as fuck entertainement. The batman, justice league tv shows were way more compelling than this
Ah yes, the intense crying session I had after Explorers of Sky.
Was I 19 at the time? Yep. Didn’t matter. Cried anyway.
The Mystery Dungeon games are also helped by…y’know, *being real games,* and having fail states, and trusting the player to pick up on mechanics and use proper strategy and inventory management to succeed instead of “pick between four options, except there’s no consequence for picking the wrong option” and “do a qte that either has no consequences for failure or that you literally cannot fail if you tried”
I wonder if we'll get another Pokemon Mystery Dungeon game. I'd love to see a modern one with quality on par with Explorers of Sky.
Though to be honest, I'd also like to see a mainline game with quality on par with stuff from then. Here's hoping the upcoming Legends game got enough development time to actually shine.
Mystery dungeon is dungeon crawler not a rouge like as a rouge like must contain perma death not counting mega progression
The pikachu sounds are directly from pokepark, btw
Wow, they couldn't even record new sounds
Aww, 2012 Geilkind would be proud?😅😅
@@aturchomicz821 that is NOT a name I expected to hear again in 2024
@@aturchomicz821 i thought i was the only one who still remembers that letsplay
@@vickypedia1308 I mean how could one forget all that when among the biggest stars in the German sphere at the time used "Jew" as an insult?? Truly such unforgettable times were had under the 2nd Merkel Cabinet😇😇
Its amazing how well the main channel video hid how fucking BORING this game is like holy shit
Imma be honest I still couldnt bring myself to watch the video, i cant imagine the stream.
Despite trying my hardest I fell asleep to the video so I can't even imagine how bad the stream was. I can barely get through the highlights 😭
@mushiegushie should rt have never posted that video?
@@Angel-eu7pt why not?
I legit found myself distracted by Subway Surfers while watching this what the hell
Subconscious Surfers
"Distracted" isn't giving yourself enough credit
I want this to sink in. This game
-Was in Development along with Sword and Shield
-Was in Development along with Sword and Shields DLC
-Was in Development along with BDSP
-Was in development alongside Legends Arceus
-Was in Development along with Scarlet and Violet
-Was in development along with Scarlet and Violets DLC.
All of these games were in development and came out during that time. And got less development time than this game.
And all they could come up with was the movie again and made it boring.
So when you look at this game remember that the development time could have gone to any other main line Pokemon game.
To be fair it doesnt necessarily mean that this game took away resources from the other games.
Its more likely that it took that long simply because they didnt care about this game at all, and you can clearly see that in the product
I think "all they could come up with was the movie again and made it boring" is giving this game too much credit. They could've done better by taking the movie and haphazardly shoving gameplay into it.
@@Roflmao6173 Did they care about the other games at all? I've heard a lot of shit talk about them.
@@LanceThumpingAs far as I see it, they did but severely lacked resources and time.
There's still clearly a lot of love and care going into the Pokémon designs, music and many characters but the games were just... unfinished. Undercooked.
It was most apparent with Scarlet and Violet since they were released in a blatantly broken state, whereas Sword and Shield had a noticable lack of content (such as the staggeringly empty and linear overworld). The list goes on.
@@GumshoeClassic For one of the most profitable franchises in existence it really is weird that they are releasing anything that people would consider undercooked.
"game is meant for kids so it's ok if it sucks" is always a dumb argument but it's a hilariously dumb one to make regarding a game in the POKEMON FRANCHISE. literally a franchise which succeeded through incredibly detailed and exciting games... marketed for kids... imagine giving your kid this game after they played one of the classic pokemon games, or even a more recent one like sun and moon or one of the switch titles that are a lil messy but have a cohesive storyline and some cool animations. any child would IMMEDIATELY go "what happened? where is the plot?where is the cool stuff???"
"through incredibly detailed and exciting games" If this is actually how you view the Pokemon series then theres no hope left for you
@@aturchomicz821I'd called Pokemon pretty dense games. What Pokemon games have you been playing?
@@aturchomicz821bro we can see your pfp, it makes you look goofy when your trying to act like you don’t like Pokémon
@@joshlegacy1101don’t bother actually asking them questions, based on their other comments, It seems to be very poorly made rage-bait.
@@aturchomicz821you have a mystery dungeon pfp.
As someone who played like half of Detective Pikachu 1, I thought for sure the dad reveal would be later in that game. It was clear enough that I figured it out from what i played, so it wasn't a twist when i watched the movie. For them to try to still keep that information hidden in the second game is..... a choice.
?? I expected that twist to be something the movie added, and that the game was just about. a crime-solving pikachu.
@@ivoryphoenix7 No it was very clear from the first game that that twist was coming. Although this game is clearly for children so maybe it was supposed to be a secret??
@@chameleonfootAs if kids that like Detective Pikachu wouldn't have played the first one??
The neutral Tim face staring directly at the camera looks just like how I feel… hollow and filled with disbelief.
You felt that way watching the video?
I will never stop saying this but the Ace attorney bundle with 5 games is only £10 more than this game and I’m fairly certain just one of those games is longer than this one.
The thing that made me really mad is that you can buy this game with a voucher on the eshop.
In the same list of games that you can buy with vouchers include Botw, smash, Mario kart, Dragon quest 11, Luigi’s mansion 3, Pikmin 4, Metroid dread, Astral chain and yet Nintendo had the BALLS to drop this boring mess in there.
Pokémon games as of recent have been so shit lately, I do genuinely wonder why Dan even bothers with the franchise
@sammyboi23k19 Absolutely, I hope people realize how bad recent Pokemon games are and stop buying them so they might actually put some effort into them. RTGame has stated how Ace Attorney offered a more compelling detective experience than Detective Pikachu. Despite his issues about recent Pokémon titles, he has a long history with competitive and older DS Pokémon games, along with a deep sense of nostalgia from his childhood, which continues to draw him back to the franchise. Plus he likes to make fun of Nintendo from time to time.
@@DriftKingClips Nostalgia huh?, well I guess can’t say that surprises me, if he enjoys it then more power to him.
Side note but in that list of games I mentioned I very much recommend Dragon Quest 11 if you haven’t played that, it’s a more traditional RPG compared to Persona but it’s so fucking good man, well worth the money.
Yeah that game looks fun will check it out
yeah the switch Pokémon games are lacking but they're still fun games with their own positives. scarlet and violet does have love and effort put into it but you can tell that's getting stifled because of insane crush time and a scope that's too big for the release schedule.
this game is a passionless rehash of a movie that offers nothing interesting or new. this is what twitter thinks pokemon is. i feel bad for the developers who probably got put through hell and came out with this having to be on a resume.
Dan has actually said pretty recently that even he, one of Pokemon's biggest apologists, is feeling burnt out with pokemon and isn't feeling as excited for it as a whole nowadays. Still is, but wary
I still wish he played the first game first, because it was genuinely better than the sequel. But he's never gonna play it now, because this game ruined the series ;-;
Sad Pikachu face
Same! That one had some charm to it.
The first one was actually decent for a kids adventure game. I've avoid the sequel just off of what people have said.
This game definitely screams scrapped 3DS game they were forced to revamp for the Switch.
@@AlmightySmorgthe game is literally a 3ds that got so delayed the platform fucking died and spent more time making a port and the game still was unfinished.
Always remember: If somebody tries to make the “BuT iT’s MaDe FoR kIdS” argument to justify a pokemon game being low quality, remind them that pokemon is the HIGHEST GROSSING MEDIA FRANCHISE ON THE PLANET, on top of the fact that being kids media doesn’t immediately mean that it’s fine for it to be low-quality.
To an extent, I can accept the visuals not being top notch if the gameplay is fun (though frankly given what else is on Switch, from the very beginning all the way to now, the HIGHEST GROSSING MEDIA FRANCHISE really should do better in the visuals department), but this is just a bland package and there’s 0 excuse for it.
Also remind them that Huntik ecist and that is for kids... yet its still great for adults too
Also, if a story is bland for kids, I don't trust the writers to make anything of quality for adults.
The entire argument is stupid because it just means the person thinks kids are stupid and shouldn't get to have good or quality writing in their media, when INTRINSICALLY, they need it MORE.
The game isn't any more entertaining for kids, it's literally just that kids haven't developed enough standards to actively reject garbage. Kids having lower standards is not an excuse to feed your kids terrible entertainment.
I liked Scarlet and Violet at 19. Despite its bugs and performance issues. You know why? Because the people making it obviously cared, and made many good Pokémon, interesting lore and characters, and overall, had a bunch of stuff to do. It was a good game, marred by the fact that it was rushed. This game never could’ve been good. It took this long, and it’s more hollow than Dusclops, who has a black hole inside of it. This game is an insult to Detective Pikachu, and to every Pokémon fan to exist. At least BDSP had extremely high difficulty, and removed HMs. This makes me want to vomit.
Being the highest grossing franchise isn't an achievement anymore, it's a privilege. Meaning that you can produce slop and people will consume them anyway. This is why indie devs should get pushed more and more. More competition always breeds more quality. ❤
I have never seen graphics this flat looking before.
Like did they even think about shading and or adding shadows beyond the most simplistic shadows?
All shadows are baked, and the style is not even uniform.
Mons and kids have simple top down circle, while buildings and adults have longer shadow... that can stack apparently.
So do dynamic light... whatever... but it looks like there is no AO too, that's why it's all so flat.
With that performance? It'd probably be like using a polaroid for framr rate.
@@techno1561 The switch can perfectly run BOTW.
@@catscanhavelittleasalami Yes, but that is a good, well-developed game. This does not seem to be that.
While it wasn’t this bad, the dialogue he’s mocking here was the main reason why I fell off the Sun and Moon anime. There were so many lines of dialogue that sounded like they were written for preschoolers.
Around sun and moon they also stopped trying with localization. They're just 1:1 translated instead of having language-specific grammar or expressions, which makes the whole thing feel incredibly soulless.
@@Nixahma I mean, localization doesn’t exactly work well all the time. I’d rather learn Japanese play on words to and wordplay to use later. But honestly, the localization in Scarlet and Violet is pretty damn good.
I watched 10 minutes of this video before turning it off and finishing all my procrastinated work
The anti-procrastination video
Why would someone make this video?
"Are we near the end?!"
I checked and saw it was at like only 25 minutes. Out of forty... The agony they mustve felt
The music sounds like copyright free stock music an intern grabbed off of the internet before the game released.
Also, I get it's set in the past, but why does the saturation for Harry's section make the game look as miserable as I imagine RT feels playing it?
Geez I know it's a 3DS game, but the NPCs look so lifeless, almost corpse like.
from what i've heard, you might be thinking about a different, better game. This one's on the switch.
@@wintremourn It was meant to be a 3DS game, but got delayed long enough that they had to release it on the switch for any chance to recoup the budget.
It's the reason why there's no current gen Pokemon in the game, despite this releasing a whole year after Scarlet and Violet.
@wintremourn are you telling me this isn't a cheap port of the 3DS original game, and is instead a sequel...
@@StudioRevoctthat is indeed what it is
In this specific case he’s in a flashback which is why they’re gray but yeah
Lairon weighs 260 lbs how is a guy gonna stop it let alone broken bamboo plant.
Idk why yt recommended this to me NOW but sure I'll watch it
Same
Probably due to the sue situation
@@L16htW4rr10r sue situation?
Like im constantly frustrated by SV and everything it could've been compared to what it is. But it's so *so* much better then this. Jesus.
It makes me feel at least slightly sane for still enjoying the main series
at least sv has a lot of people that genuinely like it (and i am one of them), i don't think anyone could like THIS.
There's something to love in a game like SV, even if there's so much I wish was better about it.
Good or bad, the game is *something*. The worst thing a game can be is *boring*, and that's what detective pikachu returns is
comparing this to SV is like comparing rotten eggs to a gourmet meal
SV has it's problems but the game is still very enjoyable
Sounds like the Stockholm Syndrome talking.
Pokémon is becoming gaming’s biggest Stockholm Syndrome
Kids games should be good for all ages if they 3 and over in rating. “Spyro, Crash Bandicoot, Mario, Zelda, Pokemon are all games “made for kids” that have extra depth for adults with their stories, characters, level design and content built into the game.
I’m sick and have been super tired while struggling to sleep, but this video finally let me get like an hour nap in. 10/10
Hoping this will let me sleep with this toothache lol
People making the excuse "it's made for kids" must have forgotten about the entire rest of the pokemon franchise
this game is so boring i couldn't even make it 10 minutes into this video without getting bored help
You need those jingling keys to make it through
that's why I'm reading down here
I'm 5min in and I'm browsing comments... I failed too.
Managed to make it to 20 mins, I’m actually gonna turn it off for now
Why would the op make this video? It's not funny like they think it is. It's boring
14:18 But why was this segment actually more fun!?!?!? Like Dan’s words were better than the entire game…
I feel like we should, if anything, be harsher on media designed for children, why would you want your kids playing mindless slop instead of something that will engage their brain during its formative years?
I genuinely started missing the jingling keys, I was starting to focus on them and it was so chilling with RT voice in the background.
Even the music is brain numbing
….do do…….do do……do do do……..do do……
The keys are real lifesavers, still can't stop the video from putting me to sleep
kids deserve higher standards in entertainment too.
This is a rare example of the movie based on this game being far superior to the game itself.
Ok, people who use the:"its for kids" argument either hate kids, or absolutely despise kids, because everytime something is undeniably garbage they just say:"its for kids", im sorry, but as a kid i had such things such as early 2000's italian cartoons, the early gens pokemon games, the earlier cod titles and a ton more stuff which today is kept in high regard, as such id like the future generations to have the same, what the f*ck is this GARBAGE excuse?
Holy shit this game is so boring I cant even stand to watch this compilation
41:15 the exhilarating moment the dvd logo hit the corner. You're welcome 👍.
it didnt even hit the corner. everything about this experience is a neverending loop of disappointment and depression and we can't escape from it
edit im blind and stupid it did hit the corner oops :/
Disappointing that the keys don't have jingling sounds, boring as hell
I remember watching this stream at the beginning. The only interest I had was in the divorce arc, and the divorce never went anywhere
The exhausting argument of "It's made for kids" is probably why a ton of kids started gravitating towards horror games since they actually respect their audiences. (Well, the good ones anyway.)
why is the game so.... grey?
It’s only really grey during the flashback. Not like it’s much better outside of it.
everything looks so low frame rate as well
@@recurvestickerdragonThe video is 30 fps
@@BottomOfTheDumpsterFire Good for the video, that doesnt mean anything if the game runs at low frame rates. Plus, 30fps is considered low for anyone who was alive for the last 10 years
@@Zero_Shift Yes, that's my point, if the video is 30 FPS, then it's always going to look low framerate, because it is. Doesn't help that the game also runs at 30 FPS as well.
the twist of harry being pikachu in the movie was good, because it was actually a mystery up until the reveal.
this game beats you over the head with it so much that YOU might merge with a pokemon
Think back to the games that we all grew up with that were amazing… kids these days also deserve to have games that give them that same feeling of amazement and it’s sad they don’t
Well they have Minecraft. And Pixelmon.
@@laurafrakinroslin And Legends Arceus, the entire Kirby franchise, the new Mario RPG renaissance, debatably Scarlet and Violet, Cobblemon, Legend of Zelda Echoes of Wisdom, Splatoon 3, Cult of the Lamb, Super Mario Party Jamboree, the Mario and Luigi game coming out next month, etc. Don’t worry, this game is a dud, but there are plenty of great games to raise your kids on.
mario wonder? sonic frontiers? scarlet and violet (maybe)? BREATH OF THE WILD??? kids are fine. there's definitely more slop like this game out there nowadays but most kids don't play or purposefully ask for indie titles/smaller or spinoff entries anyhow. i worked at a daycare and the kids there mostly played minecraft/fortnite/mainline pokemon but still knew what skylanders were - and *I* grew up playing those games. i think they're fine
I was in the stream for a bit back then, watched RT's video of this and now decided to watch this because YT yeetedit at me. I forgot how boring the game was. I was scrolling comments and am now actively doing Japanese on Duolingo
"Wasn't this game made for kids?"
If I made a baby crib that was filled with loose screws, coated in lead paint, and fell apart the very second you put a baby down there, would you allow that because it's made for babies/kids?
40:00 I started to zone out around here but I started to come back down and the only to have Tim reiterate the same points over and over again.
Why not just say everything you want to say all at once instead of wasting so much time?
I was more interested in rt getting sick from playing the game at the time
How to print money, play a game so bad people will opt to give you money to have the bits/sub animation pop up.
It will never not be sad how gamefreak is so successful, while just putting in the bare minimum effort into any game they make. It’s even more sad that they successfully manage to sell two pretty much identical games with every main title release, under the guise of „so people can choose and trade“. In reality it’s just a marketing strategy. But no apparently Ubisoft is the worst gaming company. I’m not saying that they don’t have their flaws. But the recent Pokémon games are way more buggy and boring. The attack animations are a joke. I hate the fact that I used to be a Pokemon fan. Monster hunter stories 1 while being a spinoff has better animations and grafics and runs on the 3ds. Gamefreak has zero excuses.
_AND_ MHS1 has the benefit of a GOOD SEQUEL
@@JayTohab exactly and imagine that it improved upon the mechanics of the first game.
I have a conspiracy theory that the reason this game is so lackluster is because it was intended to be on the 3DS like the first game, only for the plan to change and for them to put it on the Switch by just upscaling without adjusting for the empty space and lack of animations. That would also explain why there’s zero Gen 9 Pokémon in a game that came out long after Gen 9 began. They probably intended for the sequel to come out around when the movie did, which was during Gen 8.
this is confirmed to be true
@@recurvestickerdragon Do you have a source?
My first thought when I saw them reveal this I was thinking was this supposed to be 3ds game?
If only they stuck to the divorce plot.😅
I can’t believe this man did both ichiban and pikachu they are like opposite sides of the spectrum ☠️😭
Ichiban Kasuga? /gen
@@spidey5558 yes lol
It’s not the actors fault (most of the time), it’s the people who wrote the bad dialogue.
Wait what? Holy shit 😭
@spidey5558 oh snap he did play another yakuza game besides 0 maybe he's not cringe
How is this game running worse than Tears of the Kingdom
Can’t believe the Mother developers made this game.
I mean, it's not like they're doing anything else 😭
RT should play the Mother series tbh
I find it hilarious that almost every time RT has become immensly enraged. Like, genuinely, "I want to break something" mad. It's always been a kids' game.
normally I don't get the whole "jingling keys" viewer retention method, but this game, was just the perfect fit for it, the game is so boring with nothing of interest going on, like ace attorney has so much stuff happening all the time, you get sucked in instantly, detective Pikachu is like the exact opposite. I've been in an actual court session that was more interesting than this game.
The movie has Ryan Reynolds too. So... that sure is another reason to watch it instead of this.
Im gonna be honest, I liked the pikachu actor in the 3ds one better than ryan reynolds
@@shinyrayquaza9 Both are good. This is not.
@@jacksonvoet8312 Is it not the same va in the remake?
@@shinyrayquaza9 Yep. This game is a waste of that VA’s talent though.
@@jacksonvoet8312 True
God bless this game, really showing us everything the switch can do, truly pushing the hardware past it limitd
ace attorney investigations makes me feel more than this
Implying Investigations is bad lmao
I honestly forgot this was released. This game is so ass 😭
1:14 Bruh My 7 year old self wouldn't wanna play this game. There is not a single child who wants to play textbox simulators. it's partially a reason why Ace attoney has only a relatively small niche audience, but atleast Ace attoney has a memeable content.
And stellar music
found the person who doesn't like reading!
Okay first of all Ace Attorney and whatever this game is, isn't even comparable in the first place. AA actually has a compelling story, background, characters and even good investigation segments. Yes AA is extremely memeable but you can't even meme this trash that shouldn't have even been released because it accomplishes nothing.
@@corvusx5674 I am sorry... I never played either of the games, so I am just kind of comparing my personal reaction to game walkthroughs. (and since I never really finished the detective pikachu game walkthrough I was trying to give the benefit of doubt that I am too ignorant to see a good story in the yellow detective rat game)
@@mrmechpunch4653 don't worry, he doesn't see anything good in the detective pikachu game either, hes talking about how good of a game Ace Attorney is
I just realized Tim is the same VA for Kazehaya in Kimi ni todoke 💀 oh how the mighty have fallen
Good to know that they made everything but the story 3D.
Honestly I thought he was wrong about Minecraft Storymode since a lot of that seemed like things kids would actually like, but this uh.... this sure is a special game, huh
*i want a divorce*
I just started taking multivitamins and that bit threw me off lmaoooo. There is nothing enjoyable about that grainy horse pill but it’s still better than the dialogue 😭😂
XD
21:00 HOW WHAT, THEY MADE PEAK 13 YEARS AGO HOW HAVE THEY ENDED UP HERE?!?!
I’m so happy I could at least add more stimulation 5:52
I hate the art style so much lmao, why do they look like the people from Sonic Unleashed
The humans from Sonic Unleashed looked MILES better than this game's characters
At least in Unleashed they had personalities and different unique designs not only in their cultural clothing but their facial features
At least sonic unleashed had professor pickle.
I don’t think that they do. Sonic unleashed had a really neat art style and all of the characters faces were heavily exaggerated. These people look like they’re straight out of Pokemon Go
@@bupcereal8384 You're right
" its for kids "
Do you know what kids hate?
HAVING CONSTANT BORING CONVERSATIONS IN THEIR GAMES
I have little siblings, they dont freaking read what characters are saying most of the time. They would drop this game immediately
15:49 watching a phone charge would probably still be more interesting than this game
I enjoyed the original 3ds one and was sad to see the sequel turn out like that and tbh it didn't need one it already left you with enough clues to figure things out and not literally copy the film after referencing the film as far as I've heard.
I have played a bit of the first investigation and its fine but I know its downhill from there
I have been desperately scrolling through the comments to stave off the absolute boredom
why is the game so grey wtf
The grey tint is because its a flashback
But like it looks so fucking bad with and without it
Idk, I feel we have a weird cultural problem with people hating kids so much that they want to keep them as "dumb" and as disengaged as possible.
Man, kids are so cool. They wanna learn so much and be entertained too, why do you wanna make them hate life as soon as possible?
it's mostly said by people that don't understand children in any way, who believe their narrow worldview is universal because they can't put themselves in others' shoes for even a single train of thought.
The vinesauce corruptions made this game 100x better
You're getting this game confused with the first one on the 3ds. Though if that doesn't speak volumes of just how bad the graphics are for a switch game then nothing will. Though I do agree the corruptions were absolutely brilliant
Alright time to add this into my Sleep playlist as it might actually help me sleep.
I played an idle game literally named "Idle game 1" and there was no graphics other than a loading bar to making the number go up
That was still more interesting and engaging than the gameplay I just watched
37:18 - oh no, not the dreaded "Task Failed Successfully" trope...they couldve EASILY just added a Loop Point-- Pikachu gets caught in the spinning Golem, slapstick comedy, he gets flung off, he shakes himself off, he Jumps Back On And Tries Again...but i guess, at that point, even the Devs are saying "just friggin let em Win even if they Lose"...
Aside from boring, this game is sooo damn ugly! 😒
And laggy, too. With how bad the graphics are, you'd think it could at least run properly with only three character models on screen, but nope
Detective pikachu returns is literally just pokemon openbound
"Now we're talkin! I get to press A repeatedly!" that's just any video game
Now I know why they call him the drift king, because I keep drifting off
Yeah, this is why we needed a Palworld, Nintendo is way too complacent.
"Just because it's for kids, doesn't mean it has to be bad."
Damn right
2:24 "walk back" _runs at like 100kmh back_
14:43 unironically more enjoyable
Yea cause at least i look at a pokemon that doesnt look like shit and read chat
I've never played this new DP... shame it's such a drag! I had so much fun with the first one! This one looks vapid...
There is so little player interaction, they probably would have been better making it into a movie. Oh wait
I feel like just from watching 19 mins of this video that no care was put into this, it's just another lazy cash grab as they milk what little milk they haven't soured with their carelessness
my name is rachel so 3:04 was literally a jumpscare for me lmaoo
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This was the one game that I immediately returned to the store and swapped it out with Pokemon Shining Pearl which has been a way better experience ngl
NO WAY IT'S BEEN A YEAR!?!?!?!!?!???
This game was boring watching the compilation, I can't imagine watching it on the stream, much less playing the damn game
I'm sure the first one wasn't as bad as this sequel but yea the film is a much better choice. Still your commentary made this video worth watching.
The first one was great
That and the keys/ subway surfer
This game released in 2023 but it's so ugly...
The Pokemon Company still thinks it's the 2000s, with their PS2 games.
This is a 3ds game that got delayed so badly they had to release it on switch just recover some of the money, this thing is an attempt agaisnt the life if spin off games.
@@DriftKingClips the funny thing about this statement is that pokemon was never on the PlayStation iirc and the consoles Nintendo had at the time had games that felt better to play
“I mean the game was made for kids”
you wanna know what else was made for kids
battle for bikini bottom
except that game was actually good
I only turned this on to close my eyes and listen to Gojo occasionally deliver weird dialogue lines.
I can’t believe this is a real game.
detective pikachu returns is an insult to every detective pikachu fan
it's an insult to every pokemon fan.
feels like it was designed for like a LeapPad or sth
@@recurvestickerdragon the story in the game was actually kinda good but the visuals. the fucking visuals man. it was painstaking to play
Also of note is that the game is running at a conistent 10 fps which baffles me as to why. Its not rendering anything that intesive, and it doesnt have any real particle effects! so whats causing such awful slowdown?! Did the devs do the Banban model strat or something?
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