This House is CAVING IN ON ITSELF!!! Can We Save It?

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  • @wyseguy77
    @wyseguy77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    Do the bathroom. Buy once cry once. Don't give the situation a chance to worsen.

    • @stephensaines7100
      @stephensaines7100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The property value as described @ 14:12 "super desirable neighborhood" indicates 'doing it right'.
      I have concerns about 'jacking it up' as per wood rot, but it will be a good test to see what's solid, and what's squalid.

    • @Salador1777
      @Salador1777 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Man so many human problems can trace roots to the fact that we can not really afford to do it all even if we know we should or could or want to. Sometimes the best u can do is think ahead for the next guys, hide some drawings and notes in walls, and don't build them into a corner for sake of ease. That's why we should be in awe for all we have, that some generations really did try to build for future too. ( Great works)

    • @Salador1777
      @Salador1777 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@stephensaines7100if the roof is still up and solidly square you'll always be able to jack it up somehow.

  • @mikemarino7806
    @mikemarino7806 3 ปีที่แล้ว +275

    Man, normally when I see a job like this, I start getting doom and gloom. The positive attitude you guys have is awesome! You two are very inspiring...I'm very excited to see this project continue!

    • @Noold
      @Noold 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      They have a positive attitude because they're making $$$. Poor homeowner is probably not having a great day.

    • @garycasper2929
      @garycasper2929 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Noold money money money money…………. 🤑

    • @mr.anderson9938
      @mr.anderson9938 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Score! Gonna buy a new truck off this job 💸💸💸

    • @Jalbesbe
      @Jalbesbe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mr.anderson9938 Sadly the job got cut very short as there was way too much damage to try to save the house. Was cheaper to tear it down and build a new one.

    • @MarshWaha
      @MarshWaha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Jalbesbe where did you get that information?

  • @toddhenning8304
    @toddhenning8304 3 ปีที่แล้ว +270

    Appears to me that the bathroom will need to be addressed eventually. My call would be to fix it now while house is undergoing serious repair.

    • @ExcelInstructor
      @ExcelInstructor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Agreed. bathroom repair now would be cheaper then doing it in a year or 2.

    • @907441
      @907441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Agree 100%

    • @debbiemansperger3280
      @debbiemansperger3280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I think they were thinking about tearing down the whole thing and starting over at one point. Now that it's going to be even more expensive to fix, they might want to go with that option.

    • @Kni0002
      @Kni0002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just try add more support under the bathroom maybe

    • @tqu5759
      @tqu5759 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ExcelInstructor They still might not be able to afford to do all of the work at once

  • @DaddyBeanDaddyBean
    @DaddyBeanDaddyBean 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    I've been waiting for this one too. If the house has another bathroom and can live without that one, then if repairing it properly just can't happen right now, I would demo it and repair the framing & floor (just up to subfloor, not fully finished floor), rough in the plumbing so it's ready to go, and then close the door on it. Make it safe and clean for now, and make it a bathroom again later.

    • @stephensaines7100
      @stephensaines7100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Move forward with that in mind, whether a replacement goes in now (much easier and done right) or later. The property value indicates doing it completely now. The budget is the owner(s) decision. They'd be wise to do it all now.

    • @paulstock9978
      @paulstock9978 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent idea.

    • @Jalbesbe
      @Jalbesbe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Job got cut, house was torn down as it was cheaper than trying to save the old one.

  • @RedNeckRasta
    @RedNeckRasta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Angle the circ-saw blade to match the cut nail angle and cut in the center of the flooring next time, you'll hit way fewer nails.

  • @kevinintheusa8984
    @kevinintheusa8984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My son and I were just working on our project Saturday. We had to rip out the old kitchen and dining room and fix the floors and new drywall. We just put in a new ceiling in that area and had to level the ceiling after removing the old blown in insulation and ceiling. Man, it turned out to be quite a job. We just put up new lights in that area and now are working on the master bath which needs the same, floor, drywall, and ceiling. It will be nice once completed but boy, it is a job. Not as big as yours but big for us.

  • @chasegodwin8257
    @chasegodwin8257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Best “RealityTV” to watch, but it’s legit and run by a two-man crew. Very positive! When you two see a trial, you see a door of opportunity-not a spiraling dead-end of complaints and stagnation. Thank you for your videos. Most enjoyable!!

    • @robinheider414
      @robinheider414 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Canadian framing is platform not balloon. So each floor can be separated and to an extent addressed separately. An insurance job we were called into do we had to replace part of one exterior bearing and one 25 foot interior bearing wall of kitchen after a nasty fire. Two of us created interior micro lam collar beams and literally raised the load of the house (2.5 storeys) and were able to rebuild the 2 x6 frame walls and put the load back down. We had a solid poured basement and structurally sound foundation piers to build our jacks on and thus our two sets of collar beams. I wouldnt want to touch such a set up you had to deal with here. Very curious to see what you'll do in such a piecemeal situation.

  • @ethelbernal8938
    @ethelbernal8938 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow what a mess! Just did a termite ridden floor in my bathroom but thank God the support beams were fine. Almost cried when you had to remove that beautiful hardwood floor though.

  • @shanemoore8025
    @shanemoore8025 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    So glad to see you are filming this project. Can’t wait to see how this all turns out.

  • @Remmub12
    @Remmub12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I came back from a deployment and found my house collapsing like this. Had to replace 160 joists while lumber was sky high. 2000 plus sq/ft on first floor. Been 7 months and house is still not back to normal. Good luck on this project

    • @CT-um7zq
      @CT-um7zq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      160 joists?🤯

    • @Kristerkry
      @Kristerkry 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sometimes demoing a whole house and rebuilding it proper might be a better solution.

    • @Anubis30224
      @Anubis30224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Holy cow! I hope it's going okay? My dad started adding a second floor right when lumber prices soared. He's ticked off too

    • @mikebottorff593
      @mikebottorff593 ปีที่แล้ว

      Big money

    • @sogekingfromsniperisland7033
      @sogekingfromsniperisland7033 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How much you spent?

  • @randisius
    @randisius 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The house I currently own is pretty much the same, though in better condition. The last seven years have seen me repairing and replacing most of the house. It was built in the 30's and I've seen all kinds of jerry rigging and multiple generations of techniques. All I can say is, I love the enthusiasm and I hope it all comes together.

    • @StudPack
      @StudPack  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thx Randy 👊

  • @GD-xj3jd
    @GD-xj3jd ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gotta tell ya, I'm amazed at how positive you guy's are! Like Mike Marino pointed out down below, flat amazed but inspired. I've been working on an old house and to tell you the truth, I need some more of your go fore it enthusiasm!! Thank and and really glad I ran across you guys.

    • @StudPack
      @StudPack  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks G D !!!

  • @leonardjohnson7864
    @leonardjohnson7864 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I really want to see how you will jack the house up in that confined space! Can't wait! Love the editing!

  • @OGDaddyFall
    @OGDaddyFall 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am going through this exact issue with my entire house right now house was built 1944 has about a foot of clearance i pulled up the floor just the other day and they have the old hardwood sub flooring with random patches of 2x6’s and plywood once we got passed that the joists were rough cut wood with extreme termite damage from over the years and the supports under the beams were scrap pieces of wood that were rotten this is my first home too so I’m just extremely frustrated and stressed about the whole thing

    • @brianmattei7134
      @brianmattei7134 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What ended up happening? That's so horrible man

  • @Abcd-cb5ty
    @Abcd-cb5ty 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just terminated a contract and got my earnest money back after inspector found some joist damage under crawling space. There are no footing, the house just sit on the masonry blocks and inspector can only craw and see a portion of crawling space. We got two different contractors to bid how to get it fixed but both say there is nothing they can do😢.

  • @Dizzyfingers2
    @Dizzyfingers2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love this guy! Such a great, positive outlook on everything - he obviously loves what he does! Even in 100' weather!

  • @Robynhoodlum
    @Robynhoodlum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    2:30 when he said “we gotta demo this floor” I nearly cried. That hardwood is so beautiful, demoing it should be a crime!

    • @britneyystaples91
      @britneyystaples91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats what im saying lol, find a crawl space 😂

    • @johnhurtme
      @johnhurtme 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Robyn I feel the pain. They could have taken it apart and reused it. My house is built mostly from my families original house constructed here in 1887, all of my hardwood was taken apart and reused from the first house, 137year old white oak. But you know how women and hardwood floors are alike? If you lay em right the first time, you can walk all over them for a century without a squeak. 😂😅😂

  • @calivalley9056
    @calivalley9056 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you cut a hole outside at the crawl space and feed a full span new joist from the outside?

    • @StudPack
      @StudPack  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes 👍

  • @htownblue11
    @htownblue11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Man that subfloor and beam situation was downright rotten. They called the right team for the job though! Jordan teasing you with the edits at times is hilarious. Hope the storm doesn’t ruin anything for you fellas. Glad we missed it in H town. Stay blessed and on task boys.

  • @PigsOnBook
    @PigsOnBook 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome. Thanks. Where is the next video about raising it or engineering plans? I tried searching or sorting, but cannot seem to find it. I'm about to remove kitchen floor and attempt to lift part of floor. this has already helped, thanks.

    • @StudPack
      @StudPack  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It wasn’t worth saving and was torn down. This was our only video there sorry

  • @therealdojj
    @therealdojj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This looks like that house from a few months ago
    Thought you'd forgotten about it so glad to see an update 👍👍👍

  • @adrianagomez-bravo337
    @adrianagomez-bravo337 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    White mold from leaks/probably hot water/and without any venting, created a sauna-like condition under there. I had this happen in my rental when tenants failed to tell me there was a leak. Luckily, it was remedied before it did any extensive damage. The mold (small white spots) was just starting to form on the beams. When this happened, I realized all the vents (10) had been covered over when the house was stuccod before I purchased it (I lived there for 25 years 🤦‍♀🤷‍♀). It was a super easy fix. I literally felt the house take in deep breath when this was done. GREAT VIDEO!!

  • @durkus
    @durkus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love the ties still on the wall. Was waiting for the pole saw.

    • @rxcalvosa
      @rxcalvosa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ties and belts looked moldy

  • @HBSuccess
    @HBSuccess 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    StudPack we did a couple of these but did not try to repair joists. Instead we converted the floor system into a structural slab, eliminating the unvented crawlspace. 6-10” washed stone over a carefully sealed vapor barrier, 4” cap w grade beams under the walls. Had to redo a lot of plumbing and of course all of the finished flooring but in the end it was faster cheaper and easier than the alternative.

  • @jmac213stuff
    @jmac213stuff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    About 3 years ago, I have the same problem with a house, Client was already looking to demo and park a trailer on his property. Some girders where touching the floor, all of the house was 12" or less to grade. not venting and plumbing leaks where also the main culprit. Gutted entire subfloor, poured footings where needed, and backfield entire house with gravel and sand, poured Concrete slab. 3 bedrooms, 2 baths, Kitchen and Living room all got remodeled. Insurance paid most of it $60k), client paid $10k. Considering we included upgrades, it was a steal. 1 bath got a new ADA shower, new kitchen cabinets and countertops and every room got Room AC unit. Never though I would see that again.

    • @Ragnar8504
      @Ragnar8504 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I've been thinking slab + insulation the whole time too!

    • @sergeig685
      @sergeig685 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      3bed 2 bath remodel WITH slab WITH new footings and subfloor for 60k??? Was it a toy house? Jesus, I want your prices

    • @jmac213stuff
      @jmac213stuff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sergeig685 I guess it helps when your capable of accomplishing this things, and with a bit some help on the labor side, it keeps costs down. I did have several contractors BS their way to it and other ran, and still others didn't know what to do. The greatest satisfaction I got was doing what many others weren't up to par. I can't post pictures here, I would, but for sure adds a scratch on my tool belt.

  • @robertengster5643
    @robertengster5643 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reminds me of my home..put
    More into it renovating it because of rot, and incorrect work..
    Than I could of built new house..so Sad..
    But hey they need to
    Either quit now
    Or get er done right
    Now.

  • @50sKid
    @50sKid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    I’ve been waiting to see what happens with this one!

    • @empressche333
      @empressche333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same! So glad to see it!

    • @bigbaby3435
      @bigbaby3435 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@empressche333 ikoo

    • @y00h0011
      @y00h0011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me too.

    • @flat_baby1644
      @flat_baby1644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      me too - this is basically what i’m trying to fix in my house and can’t find many videos w some of these specific issues

    • @thefeels619
      @thefeels619 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bigbaby3435 0

  • @septembersapphire347
    @septembersapphire347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Grand total how much did it cost for all that? My living room floor is in dire need of replacement, there are holes everywhere and the carpet is the only thing keeping me from falling through to the dirt which is probably just a few inches down. This house is not on a slab but it isn't really a crawlspace either because you can't get underneath it. It's a jalopy house built in the 40's I think.

  • @adamschwartzberg5238
    @adamschwartzberg5238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Been waiting for this one!

    • @seanm3636
      @seanm3636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Heck yeah!!

  • @rickigunter1960
    @rickigunter1960 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a licensed plumber and I've been under several houses and seen a lot of things that you exposed by cutting the floor open that house appears to be very nicely remodeled the main thing it has going for it that the outside perimeter wall beams are in good shape but the load bearing walls must have proper support and I'm not saying anything that you don't already know ..so I agree I hope it's in the house owners budget to do everything that you see that needs to be done

  • @hj8607
    @hj8607 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Put a drain in the middle (near that hole ) and tile the floor . BIG shower room . 😁

    • @robinheider414
      @robinheider414 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If they were southern Baptists a large font could fit into the whole chapel theme.

  • @jaraxel888
    @jaraxel888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Vid! I honestly got a renewed respect for plywood. That floor was held up just by plywood!

  • @michelmartin672
    @michelmartin672 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You guys make some great content! And excellent job. I'm feeling like I can actually tackle my kitchen floor.

  • @claycharmsFOREVER
    @claycharmsFOREVER 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the real world of repairing and/or renovating older properties. I never started one of these until the owner committed to see it through, fully cognizant that it could be straightforward or it could turn into a nightmare.

    • @Fnberg744
      @Fnberg744 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only a nightmare the first few times. Lol. Then you get use to the destruction that must take place to git er dun.

  • @silverfeathered1
    @silverfeathered1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I'm still in favor of lifting the house. Even if it's just enough for a little more crawl space. Being able to make repairs in the future, which seems inevitable, will save in the long run.

    • @c182SkylaneRG
      @c182SkylaneRG 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lifting the house is temporary. It takes the weight off the foundation so you can do foundation repairs, but then you have to put the house down again. I'm not entirely sure how they're going to lift the house to repair the wood framing (apart from it giving them more room to move around) since what they're repairing is also what the jacks will be using to hold everything up.

    • @funny36ful
      @funny36ful 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@c182SkylaneRG are you saying that you can’t add to the piers to maintain a new height?

    • @c182SkylaneRG
      @c182SkylaneRG 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@funny36ful I suppose, for the house in the video, you technically could. The number of jacks you would need to properly support the house up off its current foundation, however, is going to make it extremely difficult to move around underneath the house.
      Otherwise, my experience is with full basement foundations, which are much harder to change once poured. For a pier foundation such as the one in the video, however, I don't suppose it would be as much trouble to make the piers a bit taller. The trouble you ARE going to run into, however, is how much taller you want to make them. If you go up more than one or two courses of bricks, you're going to need to widen the piers, otherwise any side-loading (wind, improper alignment, etc) is liable to cause them to tip over or snap off underneath the house). Same concept as using 6x6 posts for a 12 ft high deck, vs just 4x4 posts for a 4 foot high one.

    • @c182SkylaneRG
      @c182SkylaneRG 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@funny36ful Take a straw. Cut it so you have a segment that is 1 inch long. Set it upright on the table, and push down on it with your finger until it bends. Now take the rest of the straw, and do the same thing. Note how much force is required to cause each segment to bend.
      The same principle is true of the piers under the house. A little extension is probably fine, but too much extension can make them more likely to bend or break sideways, causing the house to collapse.
      As I mentioned: a couple courses of bricks is probably fine. Any more than that, and you need to widen the piers so they can withstand the added torque.
      Torque is force times length. If you apply the same force to a longer length, you have more torque. The base of those piers can only withstand so much torque before they break.

  • @sangkang6294
    @sangkang6294 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My property was built back in the 60's with a concrete slab foundation. No issues with the floor caving in but took a hell of a time breaking down the concrete for adding a bathroom plumbing. I knew concrete becomes harder with age but the Makita jack hammer was giving its business.

  • @Croc7opus
    @Croc7opus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wow, this reminds me of job I did where a 40 year old, two story addition on a house had tons of structural framing water damage from the backyard window above the crawlspace, all the way to the top of the skylight above the master bedroom. I commend you guys for looking at this challenge with a great attitude. Very professional, the owners are in good hands. 💥👍⚡⚡

  • @richardlangley9481
    @richardlangley9481 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got two workers to dig a ditch in crawl to access areas needed to repair plumbing and floor supports. i am a builder and carpenter and realize how difficult some redos are Hope you cut brick out in 2 areas to allow cross vexillation in crawl. I enjoy your videos You always do things the right way

  • @bholowick
    @bholowick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Completely gut the entire interior, and rebuild everything. What else can you do? Or just bulldoze and start over. It can't get much worse than this, I feel bad for the owners...

    • @tomjeffries58
      @tomjeffries58 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Living in the South. I agree.

    • @stephensaines7100
      @stephensaines7100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      If the partitions and walls are solid, which indications show (the rot is localized, not pervasive), and contained subfloor, why do more than what the owner(s) decide? Once you start tearing down unaffected walls, where do you stop?

    • @bholowick
      @bholowick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@stephensaines7100 I am assuming that's what they plan to do. It will be very interesting to watch! But it does seem like the rot is worse than they thought (i.e. the bathroom issue). "Eh, we just gotta pull out the entire subfloor and all the joists, no biggie" :)

    • @hr1551
      @hr1551 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      that probably too costly. I am thinking just somehow support the roof, tear down all the original rotten area and rebuild.

    • @ThaGreatestAlexander
      @ThaGreatestAlexander 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      New supports on piers cut out the rotten, put vapor barrier on the dirt instead of between flooring, save all exterior and interior framing/drywall etc

  • @paulhughes3961
    @paulhughes3961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My Wife and I recently bought a house that had been repaired but from the master bedroom to the middle bedroom the floor slops to the exterior wall. We have plans to have a local company that specializes in foundation issues. You guys do great work and I'm really looking forward to seeing how they are going to jack up that house.

  • @BWIL2515
    @BWIL2515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    These old houses it seems to never stop one thing leads to another and another and another good luck hope it all goes well ALOT OF WORK

    • @shaquileoatmeal7365
      @shaquileoatmeal7365 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Learning that now... It just never ends

  • @canlite
    @canlite 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I work with my dad we do a bit of everything. Over the summer we had a job just like this. No ventilation under floor in craw space. Insulation was dripping wet and floor joists were very rotten. And the main beam four 2x12 thick treated lumber were completely rotten. One good party in that room would have done it in. Lol. Mind you this just had a oak floor put in 2 years prior. I felt so bad ripping it up.

  • @zacharyrupley3264
    @zacharyrupley3264 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Paul, could a person get under the house, jack the house
    up and replace the rotten beams. That way you could keep the floors that are in good shape.

    • @toomanymarys7355
      @toomanymarys7355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can't attach the subfloor to the new beams.....

  • @claudiagonzalez7529
    @claudiagonzalez7529 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't remember ever seeing another video on this one . Would really have loved to see it done

    • @StudPack
      @StudPack  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Owners decided to tear it down Claudia ☹️

    • @dennisbranam3847
      @dennisbranam3847 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@StudPack you should do a follow up video on how they came to that decision, if the homeowner would allow it.

  • @donniellison7647
    @donniellison7647 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Where is the second part? What happened?

    • @StudPack
      @StudPack  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No second part. Owners decided to tear it down

  • @Bigzz8503
    @Bigzz8503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The videos I've watched are really good, and you do a great job explaining things. I have come across several projects that you have worked on, but it seems some of the projects you make videos on you don't finish videos on the project from start to finish. I'd really love to see the projects you work on have videos from start to finish, and the ones that require multiple videos, put links to them in each video in the series. Thanks for the content!

  • @thomasabreu90
    @thomasabreu90 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Typically I’m the first one in to see if it can be fixed( I’m a flooring contractor ) I do not do structural is my normal response after seeing. Then following question from them is what do yo think it will cost to get fixed? EXPENSIVE!!!! Sounds like you have a good game plan good luck guys can’t wait to see

    • @iamamish
      @iamamish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was wondering - my guess is that this is going to be between $80k and $120k by the time it is done

  • @seniorcomputer3292
    @seniorcomputer3292 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No crawl space? No air flow?

  • @c182SkylaneRG
    @c182SkylaneRG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm curious: what's the feasibility of a northern-style Concrete Foundation with a Basement down there in LA? Seems like it'd help with floor joists rotting, and you don't have to worry about frost caving it in, but you seem to have a pretty high water table. Concrete's waterproof, though (if done right), so I'm still having trouble seeing the downside, if done properly.

    • @normaalvarado2880
      @normaalvarado2880 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The basement would be a cistern!

    • @kyakukid1
      @kyakukid1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A lot of issues with houses like this to include basements are due to not having any type of vapor barrier underneath the house. A good 12mil vapor barrier will solve this problem or prevent it from happening. A conditioned crawlspace takes that a step further.

  • @HardHeadMilitary
    @HardHeadMilitary 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of our rental properties in the houston area, had a similar issue. Plumbing under the house had to be addressed and me and my wife demoed 3 room floors, got the plumbing fixed and started addressing the structural issues… took us a little while but we now have tenants in the home

    • @StudPack
      @StudPack  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cool. That’s tough work. Good job to you and your wife 👊👍

  • @Duerke
    @Duerke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The time to fix it is when you find it.

  • @henrymorgner1562
    @henrymorgner1562 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow what a monster job its turning out to be.

  • @billymasoner3735
    @billymasoner3735 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Sad that they’re losing all that beautiful antique hardwood floor, but I’m glad you can save the home. I think it would be best to do that bathroom while you’re at it.

    • @c182SkylaneRG
      @c182SkylaneRG 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, but I imagine the labor cost would have swamped those poor monks.

  • @oghooch
    @oghooch ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there anymore vids of this project??

  • @stopsign997
    @stopsign997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Seeing houses like this makes me
    So thankful to have a basement. That plumbing 😱

  • @dromero1970
    @dromero1970 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where can I find the rest of this project?

  • @medtechish
    @medtechish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Looking forward to a followup with this place. My house 1940's is suffering some same issues. Would like to see the fixes. Good video.

  • @VKMilling
    @VKMilling 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spyder Co demo blades for the circ saw. Hands down the best I have used from a home center. I recently demo'd a kitchen and living room with 2 layers of 3/4 ply, 1 layer of 3/4 t&g pine and a layer of 3/4 red oak. Quite literally hundreds of nails and that blade is still in the saw cutting sheathing.

  • @FixthisCD
    @FixthisCD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    think that wood was rotted before the subfloor was added, that is why they added the plastic.

  • @bryankulla9657
    @bryankulla9657 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    just closed on a house a couple weeks ago and similar situation. I thought it was just subfloor problems. Turns out foundation walls broke and sunk in many areas. Got all joists and beams out and down to where the footer should be only to notice no footer, just an 8 inch stem wall with 4x4 pressure treated near exterior plywood. Ran all electric through attic and plumbing lines I could and just back filled 60 yards of dirt into home and jumping jacked and now ready for a monolithic slab pour

  • @JFirn86Q
    @JFirn86Q 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I hope we see the engineer's solution that you mentioned, even if it isn't used. Great video and hard work!

  • @rico1319
    @rico1319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It really takes a special person to dig deep enough to find the answers on a job like this! You and your dad make this kind of work so enjoyable to watch! Please keep up the good work!! 👍👍👍😎🇨🇱

    • @StudPack
      @StudPack  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thx Rico 👍👊

  • @matteberry58
    @matteberry58 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Plastic sheeting has killed more framing than most people would believe. This house must have had good termite barriers or the moisture would've attracted termite to some good eating

    • @stevebabiak6997
      @stevebabiak6997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The plastic vapor barrier would have had to have been installed below ALL of the wood in order to have not been trapping moisture in the wrong place. Crawl spaces should be treated like that, and spray foam is often used to insulate the walls of the crawl space if it is not ventilated.

    • @stich1960
      @stich1960 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Vapor barriers are not as much the issue has a nail in the coffin imo, up north they are important. But your exterior wall needs to stay sealed or in this case you cant ignore water leaks and block all the crawlspace venting. And honestly the whole treating crawlspace as both interior and exterior rather than one or the other is probably the biggest failing in modern us construction.

    • @stevebabiak6997
      @stevebabiak6997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@stich1960 - yes, a crawl space is either interior or exterior, and the structure should be built to make it clear which is the intent.

    • @toomanymarys7355
      @toomanymarys7355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stevebabiak6997 Yes!!!! The FLOOR of the crawlspace should have the barrier!

    • @toomanymarys7355
      @toomanymarys7355 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stich1960 Definitely. My comment was in light of their decision to have no ventilation.

  • @jamesshaw3850
    @jamesshaw3850 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am so glad your showing this video. It is teaching me how to work on my first home. Thank you

  • @jackgililand
    @jackgililand 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Man I wish I had an opportunity to work with my dad... you two truly have a great relationship and work so great together.

  • @edmarker6804
    @edmarker6804 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just did this in Texas. The entire foundation. All new piers, beams, joists, and subfloor. I had to use 2 pallets of blocks, 10 12 ton bottle jacks, and an assortment of temporary beams to lift everything. I raised the lowest point of the house 17 inches to make it level. I suspect this will involve some creative ways to lift and support the house. Lots of work haha!

    • @mickeymacon1281
      @mickeymacon1281 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you make any vids or take photos to document your project ?

    • @edmarker6804
      @edmarker6804 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mickeymacon1281 no vids but I do have some photos

    • @mickeymacon1281
      @mickeymacon1281 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@edmarker6804 I'd love to see them!

    • @kirstenmartin4396
      @kirstenmartin4396 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I second @Mickey Macon; would love to see your photos of the job you did in Texas.

  • @tazmun
    @tazmun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow what a mess! This is going to be really interesting to see how it comes out so I’m gonna make sure and follow this. The one question I had my mind was are the engineers, architects, insurance adjusters, and possibly building inspectors going to need to see underneath the house now that you’ve got this much demoed? I know one doesn’t commonly invite building inspectors to get their opinion or orders, but in this case I’d be really worried about things biting my ass down the road so crossing “T’s”and dotting “I’s” you know.

  • @Pinky.skullz
    @Pinky.skullz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I need help from someone like you. My house managed to pass a VA home inspection and civilian home inspector. 3 no tha after we bought our house (built in 1979) I found out my ENTIRE floor is rotten (including the outer framing) I don't know what to do and I can't even find anyone willing to price quote me where I live. I'm in this house for 30 years with a baby, and now I'm just waiting for the floor to fall in. 😓

  • @Lawomenshoops
    @Lawomenshoops 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Painful to see such a beautiful hardwood floor being torn up like that!! I know you had to, but man!!

    • @henryblicharz5556
      @henryblicharz5556 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not really but he didn’t care , not his house !

    • @Lawomenshoops
      @Lawomenshoops 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@henryblicharz5556 idiot

  • @Jimleben
    @Jimleben 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    should a vapor barrier be installed on the gound on the crawlspace? I.e. a poly plastic sheeting barrier?

    • @BenJohnsonDotNet
      @BenJohnsonDotNet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Poly sheet on the ground? Yes. On the t&g subfloor? Probably not, lol.

  • @hijinks21
    @hijinks21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I'm shocked that house is even standing up

  • @imlon2
    @imlon2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have to fix it, to be done right, but sometimes the money is just not there.. Can you set in place new floor joist for now and redo the bathroom at a different time if need be? It would be easier to place the floor joist now with the rest the floor open than later.

  • @bigscout1584
    @bigscout1584 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Ain't worth doing if it ain't done right.

  • @tylerkurfees4762
    @tylerkurfees4762 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I went through a similar project on my sister in laws parents house. All the floor joists wer rotten in the living room and her old bedroom. Only reason they never fell through the floor is because the old tongue and groove hard wood floor was holding together so well. blew my mind lol

  • @abattleborn
    @abattleborn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    damn bro, just stumbled across this channel, def subscribed, it's always fun seeing people passionate about their jobs doing their best.

  • @darladias7557
    @darladias7557 ปีที่แล้ว

    We've got a house with same situation... My husband is so distressed over it. Watching your video,.. calmed him down some. Thank you.

  • @scotts2181
    @scotts2181 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well floors like that aren’t normal around me either but even more abnormal to drill a hole and spray water everywhere 😂 was dying to know why the floor was so wet

  • @tedspens
    @tedspens 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:29 I'm all too familiar with cutting through old cut nail floors, but it never dawned on me to cut on the seam. Thanks in advance for saving me at least a dozen blades!

    • @StudPack
      @StudPack  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re welcome Ted 👍

  • @dzaino1986
    @dzaino1986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Time for a teardown..How much can you band-aid a home before it becomes less cost-effective. I admire your determination though guys. I've done plenty of renovation in my own home, however this is extreme. Best of luck 👍Hydrate!

  • @primefusion83
    @primefusion83 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What's up Stud Pack team, thank you for offering us your knowledge and experience in construction. I wish you success in all your future projects! Great work guys!!

    • @StudPack
      @StudPack  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thx Alberto 👍

  • @likearockcm
    @likearockcm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd say it's about the numbers as always but, if feasible, of course you do the bathroom. Teardown and rebuild wouldn't be an option for me. Maybe do the bathroom the next year if they have a budget on this job. As to how I would do it, exactly the way you are .Looks terribly daunting but not as hard to do as it appears.(I've done a few over the years mainly caused by ants in my area.

  • @christopherdekonstrukt444
    @christopherdekonstrukt444 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A lot of those houses in eastern Tennessee and western North Carolina were built on piers and had wood floors. They literally floated away off their foundation and down the river like boats during Helene.

  • @yearight7956
    @yearight7956 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You guys are great builders, truly jack of all trades when it comes to building/carpentry. With all the specific companies/unions (demo/framing/finish/tile) it is extremely rare to see now a days and it’s almost unheard of to see guys who actually are good at all aspects of building. Nice to see the youngster learning the skills from someone who knows his stuff! He’s going to be making crazy money eventually, no one wants to work the trades anymore and those that do are only helpers or want to be in a union where they can slack.
    .The only two things I would’ve done differently would be more for my own well being and future issues.
    1 take more precaution when you find mold. Respirator on at all times in the work area. Use zip walls/plastic in doorways blocking rest of the house. After removing old lumber spray a chemical (QD64 is best) on/around the area where the mold was or even on the new lumber where it seemed to grow the last time… this kills any small particles left and prevents future growth. If it is a really likely areas they make a white paint for inside walls and floors that goes on studs/joists to guarantee no mold
    2 I would cut the small hole first on that floor, get a look down at the joists. If that big section you cut became to heavy for those rotted joists & falls through to the ground its an absolute nightmare. The chances of that are low but when the floor is 4-5 inches low only 7 feet off the wall the joists are clearly failing. That subfloor being cut could’ve been the final blow and the whole section could fall down to the ground.
    Just some tips I thought I’d share. But you guys do great work and I’m absolutely a supporter!

  • @southerncomfort971
    @southerncomfort971 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fortunately my situation was not nearly as bad as what you are running it to. My 1000 sq ft summer home had water and mold damage to the joists but my sill plates and outside wall rim joists were fine. Only a few joists had failed. But since I had access to the entire floor system from underneath with my 30 inch crawlspace I decide to remove and replace all the joist and the main support center beams, My Son and I started the project and My Wife and I finished it. We had to jack up the entire house section by section just high enough to remove and then to slide new joists in place. We decide to use pressure treated for the main beams 4 wide and ran 32 feet on 8 foot floor pillars. The one thing that saved our building was a number of years back we had ground water coming up from the unprotected crawlspace floor and the damp air (with vents) was too much for the joists. Back then we were not prepared or ready to lift the house to replace all that was wrong then. So We found a compant that uses Cleanspace Technology to seal the dirt away from the house and sump pump any new water that was now being diverted by French drain on the inside walls to the sump drain. The cleanspace system is what kept the rest of th wood from rotting and kept the damage limited what had already occured. We are in central Ontario Canada and the humidity thru the summer is just awful and that mixed with the ground water was our biggest culprit. Its been 20 years since the cleanspace went in and 5 years since we fixed the floor. We have a few squeaks and there is a small highspot. but doing what we did lifting and replacing was the smartest thing we could hve done and Thank goodness we did it when wood wasnt priced as GOLD or we may have had go back to a dirt floor. AS for you Bathroom. Maybe you can lift around and in that same way lift the bathroom and put more support under it with steel if needed or jack posts and joists, Looking forward to seeing how this goes, great video guys.

    • @StudPack
      @StudPack  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Always appreciated thx SC 👍👊

  • @stevebabiak6997
    @stevebabiak6997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That beautiful tongue and groove hardwood also helped to keep that floor floating above the air space where the joists were decomposed to no structural integrity. Shame that it had to be demo’ed to fix the structure.
    Maybe you could have used a grinder to cut through that flooring; they often get used to cut through metal, of course with the proper blade attached.

  • @lyradm1
    @lyradm1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You probably know you will run into more issues the further you dig.into their issues. I have helped many general contractors with homes like these. They were all great in looking at the entire situation even what was beyond the original bid. Nine times out of ten the client decided to demolished the home after weighing all the options. We did not try to pressure the demolition option. But instead provide the owner peace of mind that this would end the nickle and dime of continuous repairs. I wish you guys the best in this project whatever is decided. Lve the quality of your work.

    • @StudPack
      @StudPack  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Much appreciated Daryl 👍👊

  • @jerrodbrown3319
    @jerrodbrown3319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Whatever happened with this project? I’m curious to know the outcome of what was decided!

    • @dhillman7522
      @dhillman7522 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where's the house lift and repair video?

  • @IntuitiveOne76
    @IntuitiveOne76 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I did a similar job on an old commercial building. subfloor on top of subfloor. burned through a Milwaukee recip saw and 15 blades. took a solid week to get that done. There is no easier way to do it.

  • @MrTooTechnical
    @MrTooTechnical 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Woohoo. Use nothing but pressure treated joists for the repair please. And make sure you put lots of blocking.

  • @jaredpearsall6265
    @jaredpearsall6265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    More updates! Please! Love your videos! Keep up with the optimism!

  • @tumuskurns
    @tumuskurns 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Demolish the house, get rid of the cast iron, start from scratch

  • @y00h0011
    @y00h0011 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anything is possible. But, when you first showed us this one, I thought.. Wow! ..this is going to be a big project. Ground vapor barrier... framing... plumbing... flooring...finishing. Kudos to you guys because there will be some monster sweat into this one just from breathing! But, you da man.

  • @syproful
    @syproful 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That’s why you pour a slab. Make your house the ship it’s supposed to be. Great work. Really like your spontaneous videos.

    • @normaalvarado2880
      @normaalvarado2880 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The high water table makes slabs fail in Central Texas as it most likely would in Louisiana. Black land Prairie is very high in clay as are bayous. Drought causes clay shrinkage rapid rain fall loosens clay so we have rapid foundation stress.

    • @syproful
      @syproful 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@normaalvarado2880 In my area we also have clay ground. The quality to make brickwork. Engineers demand a “general foundation slab” this 30cm and reinforced. On the bottom the slab is wrapped in thick plastic before the poor. On the side it is protected by bitumen roofing (the black stuff you attach with fire). The idea is ofcourse that the structure “floats” while the clay does what it does. Expand, shrink etc. This is in europe.

  • @Thomas63r2
    @Thomas63r2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just subscribed after realizing how many of your videos I have watched. I'm sure that this house will be scrapped and a new build in its place. I'm hoping some miracle occurs and you rebuild this house - I really want to see how you complete the rebuild.

    • @StudPack
      @StudPack  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Welcome Thomas! Appreciate the continued support 👊🏼

  • @randycarreiro8363
    @randycarreiro8363 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Knock it all down build new. Go up another floors .
    All new .

    • @mr.g937
      @mr.g937 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If it's all rotten, I don't see how you can fix everything...you'd have to demo the whole house

    • @randycarreiro8363
      @randycarreiro8363 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      With that said I have no doubt you can do it

  • @normbograham
    @normbograham 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In an old house in upstate NY, there was a floor, and subfloor, and a barrior between the two floors. there was a bright green mold between the two on the top side of the barrior. ouch, did I get sick after taking out that mold.

  • @ifiwooddesigns
    @ifiwooddesigns 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Scary to see homes in the south floating on piles. Makes me glad living up north with basements and better insulation and vapor barriers.

    • @billclinton6040
      @billclinton6040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That is mostly older homes as modern construction is typically slab on grade. The cost of a basement in southern Louisiana doesn't make sense because heating losses through a slab in the South during the winter are simply not an issue compared to the cooling effect provided by that same slab in the sweltering summers. Plus, the ground doesn't freeze in the South during the winter, so no need to dig down below a frost line. Modern houses in the South are very well insulated because cooling costs are significant otherwise.

    • @chrisE815
      @chrisE815 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@billclinton6040 yeah it's cheaper until you gotta demo half the structure

    • @vince9486
      @vince9486 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Plenty of basement wall issues, water intrusion, forever damp, and other problems with "up north with basements". In Indiana, we got many issues even with a new house built in the last 5 years. Water (or vapor) is wood's worst enemy and does not bode well for poorly constructed concrete basements either. Keeps my company busy.

    • @jaysonlima9271
      @jaysonlima9271 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We got 6" of rain in a couple hours the other day and it submerged the bulkhead for the basement at a buddy of mines, whole basement is flooded 4' deep going to be bringing my debris pump there shortly, basements have draw backs too

    • @chiefinspector7280
      @chiefinspector7280 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@billclinton6040 i never felt any cool air from my slab..

  • @fviscarra2799
    @fviscarra2799 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just know you guys give me hope with starting up my own Handyman Business, I enjoy the challenge of the unknown, I too enjoy helping my fellow man and woman with any fix they need around their home. Again, thank You for being true to the trade.

  • @mansfieldcarpentry805
    @mansfieldcarpentry805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    what a nice tng floor to be ruined..

  • @AJourneyBackToEden
    @AJourneyBackToEden 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm getting ready for some floor demo just like this. Pretty excited about it