Best and Worst Encrypted Messaging Apps (7 Apps Ranked)

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ส.ค. 2023
  • In this video we outline the characteristics that are found in encrypted messaging apps that we need to care about. Then we apply these to 7 apps which I rank from worst to best. Are the most popular encrypted messaging apps the best?
    (Sorry for the sound sync issue. My computer has a glitch and it was showing as synced.)
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  • @playsaboutmycat
    @playsaboutmycat 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +223

    7:50 WhatsApp - Stay away
    9:30 Telegram
    10:17 Signal
    11:40 Threema
    13:00 XMPP
    14:00 Briar
    15:44 Session

    • @Antonjlavey
      @Antonjlavey 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Telegram has feds controlling it now

    • @antoniobragah8305
      @antoniobragah8305 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Thanks for the layout, you rock!

    • @DanteMishima
      @DanteMishima 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      WhatsApp died when Facebook bought it

    • @sskoutofdoors9503
      @sskoutofdoors9503 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks!

    • @dnomyaryevi869
      @dnomyaryevi869 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I just installed and setup Session. I sent an invitation to my family and friends.

  • @false_positive
    @false_positive 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +327

    the hardest point in privacy is to convince my friends to ditch whatsshit and similar apps.

    • @krollpeter
      @krollpeter 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Exactly.

    • @ikust007
      @ikust007 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      AGREE…😢

    • @pwolkowicki
      @pwolkowicki 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      So true.

    • @btimec5290
      @btimec5290 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      Yeah, i find no one cares, or cares to know what is going on

    • @babsjr1
      @babsjr1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@btimec5290 Exactly.

  • @BooDamnHoo
    @BooDamnHoo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +84

    Protonmail ought to produce a messaging app that includes end to end encryption like their email.

    • @godrilla5549
      @godrilla5549 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      *fedmail

    • @Vroomfondle1066
      @Vroomfondle1066 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      your brain has been hacked by the deep state - you are a sleeper cyborg@@godrilla5549

    • @Crazy--Clown
      @Crazy--Clown 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Lol Proton will Snitch on you, they have a few times in the past.

    • @DayzGone
      @DayzGone 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@Crazy--Clownlink?

    • @DashhunterLP
      @DashhunterLP 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@Crazy--Clown once, and only because they were ordered by court to do so. even then, proton could only supply information gathered AFTER the order, as nothing was logged beforehand. stop spreading misinformation.

  • @ZappyOh
    @ZappyOh 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    I view most of these "privacy" things as honeypots.
    It is way more private to manually encrypt yourself, send via standard channels (mail/chats/etc), and have the receiver manually decrypt.

    • @tobykelsey4459
      @tobykelsey4459 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      But then you need an out-of-band co-ordination and encryption setup. OK for a few techy friends or one-off data transfers; not so good for conversations with acquaintances, colleagues and new contacts. The Lokinet/Tor layer also means outsiders don't know how often and with whom you are communicating as well.

    • @ZappyOh
      @ZappyOh 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tobykelsey4459 ... that is true, we can't have our cake and eat it to.

    • @bobbyjohnson116
      @bobbyjohnson116 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Meshtastic look into it

    • @Gustavo_fr1ng
      @Gustavo_fr1ng 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Pgp go brr

    • @MorningNapalm
      @MorningNapalm 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have 1 (one) friend who *might* go along with that. Impractical.

  • @shockingguy
    @shockingguy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Good stuff ROB, as always good stuff 👍

  • @cemprotecta
    @cemprotecta 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video Rob! Quite informative as usual.

  • @kingdick4508
    @kingdick4508 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dammit Rob, great topic and video! Thanks!

  • @chrischemlen7999
    @chrischemlen7999 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    Bought a smart TV, wanted it dum TV. Don't seem to make them much anymore. Would Love it if Rob could do a show on this🙏

    • @truthdoesnotexist
      @truthdoesnotexist 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Same problem, I want a 4K TV with all the latest display technology but I don't want it to be smart, even if it wasn't a privacy nightmare the software is very poorly made and is extremely annoying and won't beat the PC I have connected to it anyway

    • @tweedeldee8122
      @tweedeldee8122 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@truthdoesnotexistYea I put a pc behind all my tv's and basically use ithem as a monitor. Don't do any subscription/streaming services. No Amazon or google "smart" (as in spy) infrastructure.

    • @be-a-sailnot-a-anchor2053
      @be-a-sailnot-a-anchor2053 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Maybe there's a way to open the TV up and desolder the components that make it "smart" and leaving you with a dumb TV maybe ? Idk

    • @ao1pointblank
      @ao1pointblank 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      you can deny it internet access on your home's router portal, and then just use it as an HDMI monitor from a PC or laptop, or a tv box if you really want actual tv

    • @JohnSmith-oh9ux
      @JohnSmith-oh9ux 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Just don't connect it to internet... simple problem, simple solution...

  • @mikkamalcolm1632
    @mikkamalcolm1632 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Thank You so much Mr Braxmann, your videos are always so edifying and interesting. A candle in the dark.

  • @jasonmorrison1
    @jasonmorrison1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great information (as always Brax) ✌🏼

  • @ryanqvincent144
    @ryanqvincent144 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Another excellent explanation and recommendations. Thank you. Appreciated.

  • @babsjr1
    @babsjr1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent info - just what I am currently concerned about. Thank you!

  • @busterhimen88
    @busterhimen88 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Braxman for President

  • @johnross779
    @johnross779 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank for info. Great video. 👌

  • @linsqopiring6816
    @linsqopiring6816 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    There are so many options these days it's hard to keep them all straight So good topic.

  • @lokemmslokemms4294
    @lokemmslokemms4294 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    hope your channel will have 1 million subs

  • @George.___
    @George.___ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wire seems to be a pretty good private app that doesn’t ask for any personal information. You can use a temporary email to confirm your username and that’s it. Lots of good features like separate locking if the app with pw or fingerprint the moment you switch apps. Message expiration timer
    Audio voice message
    Supposedly encrypted Voice calling through the app
    Including videoconferencing
    And many more fun features like voice alterations so you sound like an anonymous whistleblower lol etc.

  • @wh3927
    @wh3927 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brilliant, great information, thanks very much.

  • @sarisaf
    @sarisaf 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Telegram also offers the option of not giving your phone number. In addition, if you are in a group, you can select the option not to reveal your phone number and direct calls prevented.

    • @walkingwithshadows
      @walkingwithshadows 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I like that feature, but they ruined their system for me by blocking signing in by SMS on the desktop, meaning I have almost no contacts left.

    • @pavlospilakoutas
      @pavlospilakoutas 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Groups are monitored by moderators

    • @meggi8048
      @meggi8048 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      only public groups or is it private groups too?@@pavlospilakoutas

    • @ChaceBonanno
      @ChaceBonanno 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And private conversations that are actually e2ee

    • @Perra1901
      @Perra1901 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      To login on desktop I just scan a qr code within telegram and its logged in on the desktop.

  • @Dundertaker1
    @Dundertaker1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very informative!

  • @maicon9
    @maicon9 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    signal is also soon starting to roll out user names so phone numbers will no longer bee needed to contact someone and you can change it as much as you want

  • @peregrinemccauley5010
    @peregrinemccauley5010 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bloody great channel . Surprised it hasn't been shut down .

  • @SomeGuy-xf9bc
    @SomeGuy-xf9bc 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    I just assume all communication is insecure.

    • @simeon2851
      @simeon2851 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Good assumption.

    • @johnmood5653
      @johnmood5653 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      That should be assumed, you are correct in doing so.

    • @be-a-sailnot-a-anchor2053
      @be-a-sailnot-a-anchor2053 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Word ...I agree . I'll even add to this and say I believe any kind of electrical device or gadget that is in your surrounding vicinity pose security/ privacy concerns lol

    • @SomeGuy-xf9bc
      @SomeGuy-xf9bc 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@be-a-sailnot-a-anchor2053 For all we know the OSs themselves are logging everything and reporting back.

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Do you mean "not secure" or "not private"? There is a difference and you need to understand what that difference is.

  • @adstix
    @adstix 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Rob, please condense this ranking into shorts so it can go viral!
    Does Session come pre loaded on your de googled phones?

    • @julius_prn
      @julius_prn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No it doesn't

    • @NorthernChimp
      @NorthernChimp 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's easy to find on F-Droid.

  • @hristohristov1827
    @hristohristov1827 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Session is full of bugs and can't really be relied on for normal communication. Session's other problem is that it runs on CPU time devices and thus feeds its network with tokens. In general, I do not recommend using blockchain based messengers. At first I was delighted, but then experience showed otherwise.

    • @sebastiannilsson82
      @sebastiannilsson82 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Yeah it’s to buggy ..do u have suggestion for another app instead

    • @alexandermoiseyev8496
      @alexandermoiseyev8496 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@sebastiannilsson82wire

    • @johnbauman4005
      @johnbauman4005 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes. A quick read of feedback on the app in the google playstore reveals numerous bug complaints and some unresolved issues for several months. Seems not ready for prime time.

    • @haliaeetus8221
      @haliaeetus8221 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks for that info.
      I was also disappointed he believes Signal is safely encrypted when Tucker Carlson revealed the encryption is actually breached. If an agency wants to read Signal messages it can.

  • @2001lextalionis
    @2001lextalionis 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    very important video, thank you

  • @henrycarlson7514
    @henrycarlson7514 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So Wise , Thank You

  • @creed7779311
    @creed7779311 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you do an update on messaging apps? I enjoyed this video. Very informative and helpful in choosing the right app.

  • @AM-ss9he
    @AM-ss9he 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    It will not matter AT ALL which one you use. As soon as you type on your keyboard, it's being monitored on the phone. They've just set up a keystroke logger.
    The BEST communication security is personal, physical communication, never over any other medium.

    • @earlysda
      @earlysda 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I have no phone, so your comment is obviously mistaken.

    • @AM-ss9he
      @AM-ss9he 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@earlysda how did you get that message to me then? Probably a computer. (A modern phone is a computer).
      So I'm not mistaken and my point still stands.

    • @earlysda
      @earlysda 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@AM-ss9heAM, here is what you wrote: "As soon as you type on your keyboard, it's being monitored on the phone."
      .
      I don't have a phone, so it obviously is not being monitored on the phone.

    • @AM-ss9he
      @AM-ss9he 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@earlysda yes, but a phone is a computer, so you're splitting hairs.
      Good luck ensuring your communication security when you waste time splitting hairs like that. 👍

    • @phr3ui559
      @phr3ui559 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      can you elaborate

  • @dkd1228
    @dkd1228 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I'm impressed that Zuckerberg has advanced to the point where his name has become a verb.

  • @marcogawa
    @marcogawa 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hello Rob!
    Great videos! Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience.
    How about Skype (and private chat) and Line?
    Thank you again!

    • @Crazy--Clown
      @Crazy--Clown 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol Skype is so 90s....... Bin it you stooge

  • @RAM_845
    @RAM_845 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @robbraxmantech Rob your audio video has a syncing problem?

  • @RatBotEins
    @RatBotEins 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Telegram does use phone number as identifier, but you can hide it from other users so they will not know your number if you do not want them to.

    • @suprememasteroftheuniverse
      @suprememasteroftheuniverse 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      But telegram knows so the law enforcement agencies know too.

    • @MorningNapalm
      @MorningNapalm 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I believe that Signal is adding usernames too.

    • @MorningNapalm
      @MorningNapalm 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They almost certainly already know your phone number, since you have to register to get one. It is the content and contacts which is most critical. A phone number reveals almost nothing. @@suprememasteroftheuniverse

  • @RodNaugler
    @RodNaugler 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love this video. Can you also do one for secure video conferencing? Something that allows at least a meta-data free video sharing? We are looking for a secure and private method to at a minimum share a video and audio stream from a camera and screen, but would love to have full video conference. I understand that both Session and Signal do not offer this at the time.

    • @suprememasteroftheuniverse
      @suprememasteroftheuniverse 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Video call and conference are anti privacy by definition.

    • @RodNaugler
      @RodNaugler 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@suprememasteroftheuniverse That depends on your definitions. For instance, as soon as more than one person knows a secret, it isn't a secret anymore. Atleast by some definitions. So, the question is based on this idea:
      What is the best app that not only prevents anyone not involved in the meeting knowing the contents of the meeting, but also prevents them from knowing the meeting is going on. This does not mean that the invites are secure because that relies on the individuals, but just while the meeting is going on, the individual packets are not only encrypted but obfuscated.

  • @MrRudy-vk7xx
    @MrRudy-vk7xx 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you, sir.

  • @johncobra99
    @johncobra99 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    very good channel

  • @ibnewton8951
    @ibnewton8951 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The audio is not synced with the video.

    • @earlysda
      @earlysda 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I set the speed to 2x and it was pretty good.

  • @hesperianscholar1481
    @hesperianscholar1481 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Braxman you are based, sir.

  • @GiC7
    @GiC7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Master, thanks

  • @razvand.4844
    @razvand.4844 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What about sessions groups? They recommend using google servers for fast messaging checking in the backround. Is that safe ?

  • @nunyabidniz2868
    @nunyabidniz2868 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Losing Signal as a "one & done" solution this past year really sucked...

    • @HH-CA
      @HH-CA 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Signal still the most secure app

    • @RagingBad
      @RagingBad 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@HH-CAdid you watched the video?

  • @michaelcopple1736
    @michaelcopple1736 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I am a Signal user and am fond of the fact they removed the Signal to SMS function. Much better for privacy concerns.

    • @michaelcopple1736
      @michaelcopple1736 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Deb_InMiami2 I push people to get on Signal or Session. Session is better, though. Robert shows that in the video as a decentralized program. It does not use your phone number so there is no connection to you. Unfortunately SMS is going to be used by many major corporate outlets and other businesses, also those who require a system which logs all texts for accountability.

    • @kylenorris9585
      @kylenorris9585 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Whats a good puplic facing alternative for sms between your bank or other typs of things that require a phone message like your doctor etc

  • @kylenorris9585
    @kylenorris9585 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What do you use for public facing comunication over sms, mms

  • @agentidle734
    @agentidle734 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    what about Matrix. I remeber you said once that it is not so good for privacy. What makes it a bad choice (asuming to use it without any addressbook servers) ?

    • @mLyonJE
      @mLyonJE 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I had a similar thought, especially when I saw the mention of XMPP.

    • @jeromehugues
      @jeromehugues 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Certainly because of the centralization he does not like. For sure XMPP is also centralized.

  • @prunabluepepper
    @prunabluepepper 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Which of those apps support encrypted voice calls? I believe Threema and Wire do, but I'm not sure about Telegram, Signal and WhatsApp.

    • @TheLifeOfaBichon
      @TheLifeOfaBichon 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Signal does. but a lot of voice audio gets packet loss due to latency in decrypting it on your phone. So convo's cut out.

    • @prunabluepepper
      @prunabluepepper 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheLifeOfaBichon oh, not good. I think wire and threemav also do that. But I wasn't sure about Telegramm.

    • @phr3ui559
      @phr3ui559 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@prunabluepepper ok

    • @ComputerzenAu
      @ComputerzenAu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@TheLifeOfaBichonnever had this problem unless not on 4g network or above. Generally pretty solid

    • @HH-CA
      @HH-CA 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Signal is the most secure

  • @theovanveen975
    @theovanveen975 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like session to but they don't have PFS ( Perfect Forward Secercy ) , in my opinion that is worrying

  • @Llyonard
    @Llyonard 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Telegram doesnt need to share your phone number btw, you can give just your username

  • @stephenzakhour8185
    @stephenzakhour8185 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there a comparison chart you could provide? Thank you!

  • @lamberthenriques9116
    @lamberthenriques9116 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What about zangi messenger and atox app. Thanks

  • @HealthyLiv1ng
    @HealthyLiv1ng 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it not a good idea to use a google voice number on Signal or should one just use the number they have with their carrier?

  • @swaglessmonkey
    @swaglessmonkey 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A privacy enthusiast participating in the games too…

  • @sstambuk
    @sstambuk หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rob, what about Apple's iMessage? What position would it take on your 7 or 8 Apps list?

  • @jeromehugues
    @jeromehugues 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about matrix ?
    The cost (session) to run oxens servers is a real concern regarding the honeypot trap. Who run those expensive servers ?

  • @RediscoveryChannel2021
    @RediscoveryChannel2021 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what about RCS? Seems to be picking up a lot of new users.

  • @ChopeZzz
    @ChopeZzz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video, thank you. However, the audio is out of sync a bit

    • @robbraxmantech
      @robbraxmantech  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sorry. My new computer is not syncing the audios accurately. It appears correct during editing.

  • @IlllIlllIlllIlll
    @IlllIlllIlllIlll 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you compare session to element. Because element works on every platform, and has group chat. With no info on sign up

  • @andrewsvaz
    @andrewsvaz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like to use Wire also.

  • @sicarioga676
    @sicarioga676 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rob your bell icon is disabled….not working for me I’m not receiving new updates and videos.
    Why is it disabled ??

  • @gregg7617
    @gregg7617 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Best used on OS !🕊️

  • @GiC7
    @GiC7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks

  • @zannemairiwoods528
    @zannemairiwoods528 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What do you think of Guardio ?

  • @smooth111012
    @smooth111012 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great info Rob, I use mainly an app called Viber, what’s your view with this one?

    • @robbraxmantech
      @robbraxmantech  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Viber is a VOIP app. It's not an encrypted messaging app so it is not in this category

    • @griffydz1789
      @griffydz1789 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@robbraxmantech Good or Bad?

    • @RagingBad
      @RagingBad 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@griffydz1789Bad 🙄

  • @michaelliu9576
    @michaelliu9576 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey, where can i find your degoogled phone? it's not on your homepage, nowhere to find it?

    • @robbraxmantech
      @robbraxmantech  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      brax.me is not a store. It is a social media app. Inside it, there's a store.

  • @Perra1901
    @Perra1901 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whats app and signal use the same encryption system.
    And acording the new uk law that starts in 28 days daft online security policy.
    Signal are giving ALL communications to brittish gov.
    Will later go full coverage for EU.

    • @azaziner5851
      @azaziner5851 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      what can they give except phone number, last log in and registration dates?

  • @jcools310
    @jcools310 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bravo

  • @ageresequituresse
    @ageresequituresse 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You've found the resistance to the Signal app to be low? First time I've heard that.

    • @HH-CA
      @HH-CA 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      weird , as Signal is the most secure app

  • @MauricedeBoer
    @MauricedeBoer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Question: currently the new hotness seems to be meshtastic. Great for messaging.. encrypted.. using an IoT mesh network. What would Rob's view be on that? 6:26

  • @CM-mo7mv
    @CM-mo7mv 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    threema is associated with payment information so this is the identifier

  • @nedmilburn
    @nedmilburn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rob... I looked on your website for De-googled phone but there are none apparent. Do I have to sign up just to look at the phones you offer...?

    • @robbraxmantech
      @robbraxmantech  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It is not a store. It is a social media site. Store is inside

    • @nedmilburn
      @nedmilburn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@robbraxmantech Thanks... So to clarify... I must create a login to access your store?

    • @NorthernChimp
      @NorthernChimp 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nedmilburn You can sign up with just a random username and password

  • @nPcDrone
    @nPcDrone 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I really want to know your list but I can not do half an hour.
    Was signal mentioned?

    • @canabitter
      @canabitter 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes. But top recommendation was Sessions

    • @muzungu9625
      @muzungu9625 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@canabitter Sessions app is developed by Loki Foundation, an Australia-based not-for-profit private technology organisation. Formally launched in February 2020, Sessions is an open-source, public-key-based secure messaging application.
      LOL...Australia is like NY state

  • @harrygilsphotovideo
    @harrygilsphotovideo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would using the crappiest app be better then regular SMS texting though?

  • @glaubhafieber
    @glaubhafieber 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Swiss Military uses theeema but they have some kind of a partnership

  • @peterm.2385
    @peterm.2385 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I missed out information about business models and a guess how long the messengers might exist amid governments having an interest in breaking down things they can't control.

  • @ricko_1965
    @ricko_1965 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Would love to see you do a comparision between Session and SimpleX Chat.

    • @pingmetal
      @pingmetal 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me, too! Those are the only ones that seemed secure to me when I looked them up, but I unfortunately haven't seen or heard much info from people about SimpleX.

    • @xxxMrBadExamplexxx
      @xxxMrBadExamplexxx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      me too!

  • @relaxbecalm5574
    @relaxbecalm5574 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How to you combat MITM, Man In The Middle ?

  • @PinakiGupta82Appu
    @PinakiGupta82Appu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    👍👍

  • @julianocc
    @julianocc 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about the matrix protocol?

  • @martycasanova9337
    @martycasanova9337 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just say"I heard" at the beginning of every sentence. Then everything is hearsay. Not admissable in court.🥴

  • @One-Two-T
    @One-Two-T 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Signal has usernames now, and allows users to hide their phone number.

    • @reallifeferb5950
      @reallifeferb5950 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Phone call end to end encrypted?

  • @DevineState
    @DevineState 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    walkie talkie is secure way.
    sure you can be listened to but who you are no one's gonna know.

  • @bradIeyyy
    @bradIeyyy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    session is truly best

  • @Smullet90
    @Smullet90 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If you’re worried about it, you’ll need to establish a manual level of cryptography to apply to any text.

    • @robbraxmantech
      @robbraxmantech  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This is not full analysis. Meta data will still exist.

  • @rwLincoln
    @rwLincoln 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what would stop a 3 letter agency from posing as an incentivized individual wanting to earn oxen cryptocurrency
    ---and thereby establishing their own inside track to one piece of the server network
    ---and then repeating that until they have enough servers on the inside to build their own meta-data and decryption zone

  • @BlommaBaumbart
    @BlommaBaumbart 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why no mention of Jami? Fits right in here and should be in the top selection.

    • @salmanx37
      @salmanx37 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Link

    • @robbraxmantech
      @robbraxmantech  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I already said in the video that I cannot review everything. I gave you categories. Jami would not come on top based on the categories. But it will be fine. I gave you the tools to self analyze and judge for yourself

    • @D4rk5py
      @D4rk5py 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@robbraxmantech Where does Jami fail? Because it doesn't use a protocol like Tor?

  • @rajuga07
    @rajuga07 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about matrix? Is that a good messaging app?

  • @ericmajors2102
    @ericmajors2102 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What do you think of "Freedom Chat"?

  • @nuts2559
    @nuts2559 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ah right, so a spy leaves bluetooth open so he can secretly chat......lol

  • @lliamjurdom9505
    @lliamjurdom9505 หลายเดือนก่อน

    session yes

  • @meggi8048
    @meggi8048 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    whats the difference between publishing sessions id on social media and having a phone number for that purpose.

    • @robbraxmantech
      @robbraxmantech  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A Session ID cannot be associated with an actual person since you cannot see traffic sending or receiving with the session ID. When you publish your session ID. No one knows if anyone is using it

    • @meggi8048
      @meggi8048 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thanks for clarification@@robbraxmantech

  • @PinakiGupta82Appu
    @PinakiGupta82Appu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How about GNU Jami and Element? Element Messenger was designed for public group conversation. Jami is close to Briar.

    • @robbraxmantech
      @robbraxmantech  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As the video says, use the categories I stated and rank them for yourself. It's more important to understand the thought process.

    • @PinakiGupta82Appu
      @PinakiGupta82Appu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@robbraxmantech Indeed! It's important to sort out features and consider the threat level before picking an app depending on the use case scenario.

    • @jeromehugues
      @jeromehugues 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hello,@@robbraxmantech
      We would like a deep comparison of matrix vs session. Because the running cost of the oxen routers node is a real concern about the ownerchip of those servers.

    • @haliaeetus8221
      @haliaeetus8221 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'll check those

  • @StopTechnocracy
    @StopTechnocracy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wire?

  • @BooDamnHoo
    @BooDamnHoo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Used to use Signal before they self destructed themselves. It was problematic for general use because family members found it a problem to send image files. It would often just fail to send images so they quit using it.

    • @OPOS-el7tj
      @OPOS-el7tj 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      What do you mean by "self-destruct themselves"?

    • @BooDamnHoo
      @BooDamnHoo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@OPOS-el7tj When they dropped support for SMS a LOT of people were angered by that and quit using signal as a result. I had to quit well because I had no desire for multiple apps doing (functionally) the same thing. People NEED SMS regardless of security because you cannot two factor with banks or other entities without SMS. Then there is the fact that most people you will text are using SMS or an app incompatible with the Signal system. By dropping SMS support it meant having to install and (mostly) use another app, at which point there was no longer much need for Signal for a minor, specialized case. If they kept SMS support then adoption of Signal would be broader and easier because as more people installed and used it, texting between users was automatically not SMS and was encrypted, AND it was useful with users who didn't have Signal. Now it is a Signal to Signal ONLY app so lots of people quit using it. I was able to get family members to install and use it because it was seamless to use for all texting but after it dropped SMS they all dropped it (plus the problem it has with transmitting images).

    • @HH-CA
      @HH-CA 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      what are you talking about ? Signal still the best & more secure , WhatsApp copy what Signal bring to the table but with a back door of course

    • @BooDamnHoo
      @BooDamnHoo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HH-CA You can only communicate with other Signal users. You CANNOT do absolutely essential 2-factor authentication with it. Sure, it's great if your recipient uses Signal (90% chance of NOPE) but beyond that, they crippled their app because they underestimate the intelligence of their user. They dropped SMS because it isn't secure and encrypted. Duh! I used to use Signal as my one and only texting app knowing full well that most comm was insecure because not only did Signal keep reminding you, but I know this stuff rather well and knew that all SMS traffic is open. The devs decided I was actually too stupid to know this, as well as all other users, in spite of their own clear warnings while using the app. They crippled their app AND reduced adoption because MOST people aren't wanting to install and use multiple apps to handle the same activity (texting). If Signal remained a fully functional app for text messaging, more people would adopt it or be willing to switch to it. Convenience really does matter, like it or not.

    • @HH-CA
      @HH-CA 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@breakfast7595 I never had any issues too especially when you periodically check for updates, it's most UNDERRATED app that actually the best.

  • @MCD3007
    @MCD3007 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @RobBraxmanTech what is your opinion of Skred Messenger, thanks. Liked and subscribed.

  • @lamberthenriques9116
    @lamberthenriques9116 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also what about speek network app

  • @NatureGary4489
    @NatureGary4489 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about Element?

  • @muzungu9625
    @muzungu9625 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gov agencies can do screen scans and keylogers

    • @haliaeetus8221
      @haliaeetus8221 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah. Needs to be a clean open source OS with no unknown apps, no outside automatic updates and no internet or sim card attached to one's name. I'm thinking someone should sell very cheap (like burner phone) devices with this basic containment purpose in focus.

  • @Jonathan-br8dn
    @Jonathan-br8dn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Que opinas de Jami?

  • @radui7468
    @radui7468 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How did you convinced your family to use signal? I doesn't work for me.

    • @robbraxmantech
      @robbraxmantech  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Last year, Signal could be the SMS app so all you had to do was change SMS app and there was no different interface. Sadly, in a very dumb move, Signal took that away. So the resistance today would be more than it was at the time. However, my family continues to use signal and actually uses it more with others, not just with family.

  • @noyourewrong599
    @noyourewrong599 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how about Wire?

  • @hansmurris6716
    @hansmurris6716 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about iMessage from Apple???