I used to watch a lot of these self-proclaimed "auditors" back in the day and eventually had to stop because I was getting annoyed with the rise of really bad ones who didn't have the maturity to do it properly. Your channel is great because it calls out rights and wrongs on BOTH sides.
Reminds me of that one video where one guy stopped when he saw someone else pulled over. He approached the police and started to question them. Not only that, but he had his wife and kids with him who sounded like they wanted nothing to do with the situation.
“Just checking on my employees” sounds like something you would say too, people often forget that cops pay taxes just as much as you do it’s their building and cars too. Don’t trust the cops until you need them got it 👍🏾
@@shuaibb8992 it’s their job, we aren’t require to trust them for them to do their job. They swear an oath and we pay taxes to fund them. Gtfoh with that “until you need them” nonsense. Weirdo
I remember walking my son to main street to shop because it was such a nice day. We passed by the police station and he got so excited to see their cars I had to take him to see them up close. He was only 5 or 6 at the time. So we walked right into their parking lot and he set his eyes on a brand new cruiser - our town was small and would only upgrade a few cars at a time. The other cars were a bit worn but that cruiser really was beautiful AND shiny! How could I not let him get a better look at it?! A few minutes went by and 2 officers came to see what we were doing. I told them we really just wanted to get a close up look at the new cruiser. They saw how my son was excited but polite and one of them said, "Okay. Let's get a real good look." He opened the car door so we could climb in. My son sat in front first, then we switched and he sat in the back. The officer was SO awesome. My son got to turn on the lights and even the siren for a few seconds and the other officer was also smiling ear-to-ear. It was one of the best days EVER for my boy. He couldn't stop talking about it for days. I thought he might even have an interest in law enforcement after that but he liked the fire engine better (the school took him there on a field trip). Still, while we were having such a great time checking out their new ride the officer asked if I knew if any of my son's friends would react the same way. This lead to an annual event in town incorporating the newest cruisers for every day citizens to check out - inside and out. Sometimes, they even had the fire truck and/or an ambulance. It really was fun. That parking lot didn't even have a fence around it - there was no NEED for it until years later when our little town became a much larger city.
LT is a rockstar. Was super impressed by his immediate de-escalation, professionalism and knowledge. If he was common this audit community wouldn’t be nearly as popular. Let’s hope for more police like him.
@Pedro Daniel Lopes Ferreira "Areas that are not policed have lower crime rates." That's why they are not policed. You have cause and effect backwards. You look really foolish suggesting that there are fewer crimes when police are not in an area. I'm sure favelas in poor countries where police are afraid to go are super peaceful and law abiding areas.
@Pedro Daniel Lopes Ferreira Police is required. Who else is going to assist you when someone breaks into your home at an inconvenient nightly hour, for example? And no, not everyone is willing or able-bodied enough to defend themselves. And who else is going go to assist with the documenting and investigation following an incident or robbery? Who else is going to ensure people stick to the laws we set as society instead of people going wild and driving drunk or worse? I could think of a hundred more examples. You may not like the police, but they are very much needed for society to function. However, it is important to ensure the police stays in *service* to the population. And I do think they should be held to a higher standard.
Yes and no, good he upkept what is right, however leading by example idk bit hard as this should not have happened if he was doing his job correctly (provided he was directly overseeing these officers)
@@Kylav1996 you can't hold him accountable for other people's ignorance. Leading by example yes, from now on these officers will know how to handle an 1st Amendment Auditor.
@@Freddyfrm18 Sure I can, wtf is that even as a comment, you think being clueless on amendment laws is passable at all? let along a sergeant being clueless.
The female changes her story to fit the sgt detaining the cameraman. Covering for other cops is the reason for the disconnect between the public and police
Not sure why the Auditor said she was professional she did change her story to support the foolish set and she seemed to want to escalate things - she seems power hungry to prove herself (shows weak person).
It’s why cops like this hate cameras so much, they keep everyone honest and show what really happened. Not a lot of room for deceit and it pisses them off that they can’t get away with murder. The LT was the only good apple
well, you know, I think the cadets are trained that way. To me it makes little sense that police embrace the military system. That seems obviously mistaken. It pretexts that the public is the enemy. Seriously stupid.
@@dominiquealpha-omega5322 I should’ve clarified, I wasn’t suggesting that the police adopt the military mentality twords citizens. We already have that. However some of their rules and regulations such as ‘obligation to disobey’ and aspects of internal accountability. In many ways, not all, the military hold their own accountable internally and it’s something the police force should do instead of protecting people who abuse their power and commit crimes in the blue.
That LT is a hell of a cop. He knew it was an audit, knew there was NO malicious intent, and steered the situation in a way that benefited the auditor, his employees, and more importantly, his community. Officer Delgado needs to be educated heavily; her accusation could have EASILY caused serious trouble for absolutely nothing
Of all the first amendment channels this is by far my favorite. The care you take in looking at these types of incidents rationally from all sides of the conflicts is stellar. Keep up the great work.
Seems to have ruffled some feathers here. He takes a rational point of view and doesn’t debase himself relying on his emotions to make his decisions. This shows a rational thinking and logical reasonable conclusions. Can’t ask for more than that. If you don’t like the law then take it up at the polls or in the courts. “Shooting the messenger” is not a logical or rational course of action.
The Lieutenant also had a really good instincts to be able to judge what was going on so fast and realizing that the cops pride was the only thing damaged, then proceeded to be a great civil servant and offer assistance! This man needs to be promoted, or sent to instruct new trainee cops on how to serve their communities
"Moving forward, how can we do somethin for you here? You can film all the way in the back lot. Tell me if you need paperwork. Tell me what you need, we're gonna try and get it for ya, they're gonna close pretty soon, you know what I mean."
I absolutely hate the fact that police are internally investigated. There needs to be a 3rd party review board and it should be much easier for cops to get fired!
This guy has done other videos where he is purposely trying to trigger cops to not do the right thing, you podders are huge part of this problem. Don't they have better things to do than annoying coos to make videos. Video guys are 90% problem
@@seand.g423agreed. i used to work at walgreens - if you get fired from a walgreens, they put a flag on your name. you can't work at any other walgreens. it's always baffled me that walgreens has more oversight than police departments.
Nobody learns shit from this channel. Everything he says is followed by "HOWEVER..." Basically, the long arm of the law can fuck you if it wants to. Seems to be his conclusion in every situation.
There's lots of auditors that could learn a lot, as well. Many auditors (like the one in this video) mistakenly believe they can't be trespassed from a public area unless they've committed a crime. But as ATA shows, they can be trespassed simply if an authorized person (police officer) decides the implied consent to be there is revoked.
@@Michael-cp6gr Looking for "trouble" with a camera? 3 cops to deal with a cell phone? As if any of those 3 could deal with actual "trouble". if the Constitution is threatened by a guy with a cell phone and not those 3 incompetent LEOs, with firearms, than we are in trouble.
What I like about this channel is that you are very even handed in the way you assess the audit. There are no preconceptions that taint your analysis of each individual.
@@shaystern2453 referring to the citizens in these interactions as victims is a preconception dude. These videos are nearly exclusuvely of interactions between law enforcement and citizens. The grades are obviously given after ATA reviews footage and researches relevant laws. Otherwise the grades would be given beforehand.
@@shaystern2453 in addition to what fizzy heart said, when people are infringed upon in a way that they have 0 control of the situation, he doesn't assign a grade.
So I came across your channel a couple days ago and let me tell you … I am HOOKED ! I love how you stop and educate and so clearly spoken , I’m learning a lot just from these videos ! THANK YOU 🙏🏽
I've basically binged this stuff after discovering the auditing community a few days ago. Long Island Audit is my favorite so far, and LackLuster is also pretty good. I see Amagansett Press brought up a lot though I haven't checked that channel out yet, personally.
I don't get why police don't just watch from afar (like in this case watch their security camera) until they're satisfied nothing illegal is occurring. Why do they always want to make contact? Contact seems to involve ego and authority every time - recipe for CR Violations and/or disaster.
Because the police don’t know if said person observing the cop cars is messing with equipment. There have been occurrences where cop cars have had break lines cut and caused accidents.
@@qweds3127 They ?MAY? have other things to do. I suspect there's a cop, who watches security cameras, as part of their duties. Like, whoever is manning the front desk. The number of times we see multiple police show up (more than 10 sometimes) to challenge a person exercising their constitutional rights is disgusting imo.
@@biocular Yes, this channel has fallen down the hole of agreeing with police that citizens should have an exact understanding of EVERY law in the book but it is too much to ask that police know every law they try to enforce.
@Brandon Time to agree with you but be pedantic anyways. Police are citizens even if they pretend they're a different class. While AtA does have bootlicking proclivities (as evidenced in his grading system), a good chunk of the outs he gives to police are through bad lawmaking and a corrupt legal system that allows the actions and behaviour.
@@biocular He is critical of auditors not "regular citizens" because if you are making your lifes work to target very specific areas of law enforcement you should probably have a better understanding of the laws you are auditing. Yes law enforcement should have an understanding of the fundamentals of the laws they are enforcing but so should the person who is testing those laws because unfortunately courts will always err on the side of law enforcement. Generally speaking when this channel reviews content from a "regular" non auditor citizen its far more lenient on its grading structure versus people who are running their own channels. I think this stems from the understanding that bad auditors give the good ones a bad name and are held to higher degrees of accountability.
@TheAbyssal your life is worse when someone is recording in public ? You walk by thousands of cameras every single day. Some of them even take pictures of your face and your license plate. Grow up.
To be fair, the guy with the camera isn't exactly intelligent with how he does things. It's unnecessary to call the cops your "employees." I understand saying they are here to serve and protect, but that's him trying to get a rise imo. It always makes you look better to stay neutral and not become offensive.
There is literally thousands of these videos going around the internet at this point, the fact that these police officers keep falling for it and making themselves look ridiculous is pretty unbelievable.
Most agencys just ignore them at this point. When they first started doing this I was working for a small pd as 911. I will never forget the day an "auditor" came to us. He was so rude to us. My officers were so confused lol. They did tell him to leave because they didnt understand why he was there. We spent the rest of the shift researching it and after that stopped caring. They are literally just wanting a rise for views. If you ignore them they will go away. The video is still up on youtube and you can visually see how confused they were.
@@lArtemislll Yeah, that's what I was getting at. They just want a rise for views. So the fact that there is still police officers out there that keep giving them that rise is ridiculous.
It shows a weird state of affairs in the US where information is just not communicated Take a national system like USPS - they SHOULD given that they're national be able to send a memo around telling people to read Poster Seven and see that it's legal to record in public areas But they don't
The male officer was great IMO. He spoke up and deescalted a situation that his Sgt and fellow officer were escalting. Takes alot of courage to do that with a supervisor right there ESPECIALLY when the one you're going against is ur supervisor. He should get an A++. And the LT obviously did a great job! 👍
Remember people, if you get called out for being a moron, just tell the person to 'Stay free' (but DON'T capitalise first letter, to show your lack of literacy). Yeah, that'll learn them real good. You can keep 'stay free' in your holster (even though it's meaningless).
Your narration and articulation gets an A+. Your calm, clear demeanor lends itself to detailed understanding of the many nuances surrounding interactions with authorities and individual rights. Thank you for your contributions!
Being in the Army and knowing how nerdy and into regulations LTs love to be, I can only imagine when they told this LT what was going on, he was like, "OH MY TIME TO SHINE!" 😂
Completely different rank structure brother. Retired AF here. You definitely wouldn't see a 22 year old Lt in a PD. They are seasoned officers and would be more along the lines of a Maj or Lt Col in the military. Omly Captain and Chief is above an Lt in a PD.
An LT in law enforcement is very different. It is more as this, in my field: Corrections Cadet to Officer, to Corrections Senior Officer, to Corrections Sergeant, to Corrections Lieutenant, to Corrections Captain, to Warden I, Warden II, Warden III. Above that all is the regional director, who answers to the commissioner. The commissioner answers to the Governor.
Honestly, I get so hostile and angry at corrupt and narcissistic cops, *but,* I absolutely LOVE it when you find and commend one worthy of an A+. I agree with your evaluation and thank that gentleman for being a good, honest and decent person, despite the power he has to potentially abuse.
That LT really looked like he cared about the oath he took. Was calm and respectful and made the citizen feel safe and comfortable. No wonder he is a lieutenant.
Some of us believe this is proof they are incapable of performing the duties they were hired to perform. How does one uphold the law, if one does not KNOW the law. They should all be dismissed instantly if proven they do not know the laws they were hired to uphold, it is 90% of the job.
@@rgregoryful totally agree with you, and it's something that has never made sense to me. Why is it that lawyers need at least 8 years of education plus passing the bar exam in order to practice law, yet police officers need less than a year to enforce the law? Why do lawyers have to carry liability insurance if they commit malpractice and/or get sued by the people they represent, but police officers have qualified immunity?
Police actually aren't required to correctly know the law. As long as they claim their ignorance was in good faith they won't get in legal trouble. Try that as a regular citizen. Ignorance of the law isn't an excuse unless you're in law enforcement. Seems biased imo.
i tell all 3 of them do u have proof i was in the car show me now if not then all 3 of u need to go back to school now if not then my lawyer will issue all 3 of u with lawsuit on each of u & i tell the judge all 3 say the same thing i was in the car & i ask for proof they dont want to show it & want to make up things right there.... since all 3 want to play that game they need to be fired on the spot cuz they going to get someone hurt in that office by pissing off the wrong person cuz what they did
I guess I can see how you gave the SGT a C, but I would lower that because he kept denying that he detained the photographer even though he definitely did detain him.
Lying is an investigative tool that we definitely want police officers to have. Lying to escape accountability, Lying on reports or lying in court however is totally unacceptable, unethical and illegal.
This is why I love this channel so much. It is the definition of 3rd party unbiased evaluation of these incidents. Thank you for showing the educated side of things.
Yea.. Educated.. Lol.. Go read the title of the video again. It's misleading at the very least.. And more like who ever uploaded the video itself is indeed the true liar.
@@TinfoilHatWearer thanks. I watched the video again and it seems both the thumbnail and title are both accurate and not miss leading, unless you have other video that would shead additional light on this interaction. I used the term education as the poster evaluated the incident clear and fair based on standing case law. Again if you have additional factual information to add to, i would love to hear it as it would help expand my knowledge and view of this subject.
"Bow, slaves. Your master has decreed loitering laws." To whom does any free man owe obedience? In principle, none. In practical application, might apparently makes right; so be well armed.
@@gary9346 mindslave mindset. This is exactly why I said that apparently might makes right: you literally support the idea that they should make the rules because they have more firepower. I used to think like that too. We have to do better my friend. Seriously, you just wished my death at the hands of your righteous heroes. Think about it. Should I really go assert my rights in such a way that will end in my demise and perhaps even injury to officers? That's bad for everyone. You have got to think deeper. If what I have said is wrong in principle, please correct me. But I made distinction between principle and practical application. Should we be lead by fear or by principle? "Comply or die" is the anthem of bullies and murderers. We have to grow past this.
If i was a senior officer i would never let a child cop ruin my career, risking my reputation & pension, i find it funny when cops back each other knowing damn well they might take you down with them for what they did like the guy who killed george floyd.
There are people in this world who gain great delight in seeing how many buttons they can push. Good on the LT for recognizing and not getting caught up in this behavior out of all the other parties.
Cops need to be audited because of this exact reason that old man officer was trying to abuse his authority if your going to be a cop you HAVE TO KNOW THE LAWWWWWWWW
@@porkchopexpress6890 I disagree, people are free to do whatever they want, no matter how annoying, desperate, attention seeking or irregular it may be, as long as they are doing so within the law. It’s up to the police to uphold the citizens rights and not overstep their authority. The TH-camr’s just performing an audit in which the Sargent failed miserably. On the other hand the lieutenant recognized the filmer’s intention (audit) and let him go as he was acting in a lawful manner. A++ for the lieutenant
I can’t stand a lot of these audit channels like the guy filming. They are usually there to get a bad reaction by being rude and just for some views. I love this channel it’s fantastic. And it’s because you stick to evidence based facts and not emotions led (or views led) opinions or bias. Great work 🙏🏽
I couldn't agree more. And I feel like a lot of them are taking advantage of today's climate and fear of events like active shooters. For example the 4th of July shooter, was seen taking photos and videos of a Synagogue just days prior to July 4th. So I can understand how some might be weary of some one taking video of your building. And when confronted the Auditors offer no excuse nor reasons for doing what they're doing, they simply say "Im legally allowed too". To me they just act like "Slip and Fall" scam artists, they want to escalate the situation as much as they can, in the hopes of suing the state or city for a big pay day.
@@charlie7mason It has nothing to do with attempting to avoid scrutiny. Police are trained to pay attention to what is going on around them and to be suspicious when faced with someone who is behaving strangely. This is an extremely important part of their job. Sadly, there are losers like the guy in this video who have nothing better to do than seek out the police and intentionally behave suspiciously in order to force them into an interaction with him.
@@slip6hazard9 why should someone have to give you or a cop or anyone else a reason for doing something that is legal? If you want to color your hair pink why would you owe someone a reason or excuse for doing it? If you want to go for a walk around your town why would you owe anyone a reason or excuse for doing it? If you wanted to take some pictures of the paint style or the landscaping of a nice house why do you owe someone a reason or excuse? He did however give a reason he was checking up on public employees and looking to see if the tires looked safe and if they left any info on public display that shouldn't be... He gave them more then he needed to And its not a scam that someone follows the laws and sues a cop or city when the police violate their rights... if a police department or a city wants to hire and keep police officers on the force that A)Dont understand simple basic rights/laws or B)Dont care about the laws C)Feel that the laws do not apply to them Then it is the Department or Citys fault for having such a legal liability on the pay roll and IF/WHEN they cause a lawsuit it is the fault of the City or Departments for allowing the liability to remain... Do some audit channels treat the police bad? Sure they do but we are not required to be nice to each other and for the most part from the majority of the audit videos i have seen they dont treat the police bad till the police get a unprofessional attitude with them or start giving orders or making demands that they have lawful power to give
Your videos are fantastic! It's rare to find voices out there that are so professionally neutral. Police AND Auditors need to be better, and you are a great example of that
I like you, you know your stuff. Audit the police officers, also Audit the auditer. Misconception and confusion should not be out there. A+ for your this Sir!
@@lordgino2006 I do wish these guys could do this without being so arrogant, it just asks for more trouble than is necessary..then again I guess it does take a special kind of person to want to be a auditor
Haven't watched this one yet. But I just wanna say I love this channel. I love the unbiased nature of how you present your videos. When the citizen is wrong, you make sure to let it be known. When an officer is wrong, you treat it the same way. Wrong is wrong. Regardless of how you feel about police or auditors of police
You know the cops are more willing to release clips that cast them in a positive light, just like people are more likely to record a cop who is doing something shady
@@mrsauxe8704 “cops can’t go even 5 minutes without lying” He has the preconceived notion that all cops cannot go 5 minutes without lying. So if he sees a cop, he will automatically think that without knowing who they are. Replace “cops” with “black people” and tell me you don’t see how it could be a prejudiced statement
@@sleepshouter5017 I dont agree with him 100% but I dont recall having a "Black Person Academy" where people train to be black and to do the job of a black person lmao
I'm not sure I've ever seen a smoother de-escalation that was so quick and easy. If he ever decided to run for office, the Lieutenant would have my vote all day, glad to see they still make them like him!
Coming out with "checking on my employees" is a bit confrontational. Better way to put it would be "Documenting the condition of the property in public trust, namely how the City Police are maintaining the vehicles entrusted to them by the taxpaying public."
If saying something so small like that aggravates cops then they shouldn’t be . Getting your feelings hurt or being yelled is gonna happen at your job . If they don’t like it and are that sensitive they shouldn’t be cops .
@@jasminebounds Why are you expanding so much on the original statement with absolutely nothing of value? No one said anything contrary to what you said, you’re just talking to talk (prolly to sound smart, if I had to guess.)
@@Alex-vy2zc I don't even know what you're talking about cause that was a month ago when I said it. If cops are that sensitive they shouldn't be cops. And all in the comments I think some people are saying that as well. But you wanted to reply to me cause you thought you'd put me in my place . Well buddy you failed . It's early in the morning so I don't feel like telling you off and that you shouldn't be so triggered by others comments and that you should mind your business like everyone else . Go have a productive Monday and stop being such a wimp over people you don't know that could careless about you. I said what I said , go argue with ya momma !
Thats a bit wordy, but maybe something between the two. I always appreciate the auditors who are super nice and polite, over the ones who are super rude and aggressive.
@@Cman04092 not sure if you are talking to me or someone else . But if you are talking to me then refer to the comment to what i before you . I'm not about to go back and rewatch a video that I made a comment on months go . Again if you are talking to me then I'll be wordy and tell you I said what I said . Have a great weekend !
The inconsistencies of law is egregious. “Terry allows for the stop and detainment of individuals pacing back and forth, peering through windows.” On the other hand “Courts have found simply looking through windows of a vehicle, not be enough for a detention” 🤦🏽♂️
@@georgegates526 instead of “why” why not? The constant of all of these videos. Is that it’s not against the law to do so. Even if he did in fact need a physiatrist. That’s not what the officers job is to determine. It’s to enforce the Constitution and then the laws they swore an oath to uphold. You’ve looked through numerous windows daily I’m certain. Though I’d be assuming, I’m sure you do not need a physiatrist.
@@ThynBlueSlym No one films and looks into cars for fun. So i can understand how this was suspicious to the officers. If someone did this to my car, I would also be suspicious and tell them to leave.
@@Oozaru85 It's not for fun, it's for reactions and TH-cam views. Although most will try to have us believe that it's all about checking up the condition of the vehicles and tax payers money...
This business of "move along" was discredited by the courts long ago. Absent the commission of a crime all citizens have a right to be where they are at. The auditor was practicing a Constitutionally protected right thus he could not be considered to be committing a crime.
Links? While I don't disagree, it seems you're saying this to imply when an officer asks you to leave, and you don't, it isn't trespassing? Or is it specially if they say the phase "move along"? Would love to read into it
The problem I see when auditors are stopped by law enforcement for investigation, is that there really is no investigation. The cop will detain the auditor, disregard the answers to his questions, then demand he leave under the threat of arrest. The cop's mind is already made up, and if he stops to talk to you, you're guilty of something.
@@DTAGAFFA Depends on the auditor, a lot of them are straight up douche bags but some of them (like this video) are doing nothing wrong or necessarily inflammatory. Just because the cops overreact isn't the fault of the guy filming.
@@DTAGAFFA They are there to see if cops respond correctly. They usually dont. The auditor doesnt force the cops fuck up.. Do you have the same complaint about bait cars, or is this another case of 'its cool when the cops do it."?
@@DTAGAFFA Finding out of your local cops will violate your rights is productive. They *should* be punished when they do things like this but they rarely are. Them being baited into it doesn't make it any more okay. That's like a car thief trying to argue that the car was just too tempting and he just had to steal it. "He was acting suspiciously despite doing nothing illegal, I had no choice but to violate his rights!"
That lieutenant did a great job of coming out and getting everybody to chill. When I see interactions like this, I nearly always see 2 patterns of behavior that are constant. The conflict arises when someone is unable to concisely articulate their point to the other parties. And the conflict escalates when one or both parties make false statements of fact when arguing their case. If people were a little more educated/trained in their communication skills, most of these situations could be avoided. Unfortunately, when the person failing to properly communicate their position happens to be a cop, then the interaction can become a much bigger problem for a regular citizen due to the power dynamic. It's amazing that so many of our public servants genuinely believe that their authority/status is above that of the people they are hired to serve.
Above the constitution and the oath they took to uphold. Thats what gets me, in addition twist the law to their benefit & over use their power and authority, because the wear a badge.
I do appreciate your content. It's extremely informative and unbiased. In my opinion your channel should be considered the gold standard in reviewing audits and interactions. It seems like a few other channels have gone off into the weeds, just shy of calling for violence on anyone wearing a badge. Thank you for the work you put into this channel.
I agree with AT. I do like how you break down how an individual could avoid getting into situations to start with, so you educate both sides of the aisle, without bias or prejudice. The research into SC rulings and whether or not a judge would react one way on another, doesn't always make these situations cut and dry. thanks for taking the time to educate
I completely agree. While I really like Abiyah Israel, I feel like his channel, We The People University, is one such channel that leans too far in the direction of siding with citizens. It's one reason that I love Audit The Audit. I feel like ATA is fair to all parties.
The problem is the definition of "suspicious." There really needs to be something better than "suspicious" because to a cop, everything is "suspicious" because they think every citizen is a criminal. They, or anybody, can say that anything is "suspicious" and then use confirmation bias to convince everybody else that they are right. Courts need to address this. We see it all the time in these videos.
The issue is a majority of the laws surrounding us are based on undefined standards called "reasonableness". Which are routinely somehow defined to mean "whatever an officer says" and then also not that at all. Neither does our own opinion of "reasonable" seem to matter. Largely it's a nothing-word inserted to give state officials the leeway to act as they please, and it needs to be remedied.
I don't know of a better alternative though. There's no way you can make an explicit standard to cover every possible situation, so the law kind of has to fall back on words like "reasonable suspicion."
@@eccentriastes6273 Relying on "reasonableness" is why we are where we are. Excuse me if I don't want to be subject to some sociopath with a history of violence's version of reasonable.
@@aennaenn7468 Thanks. I was going to mention that. The ambiguity of 'suspicion' and 'reasonable' is an UNREASONABLE measure of legal authority. The words 'reasonable' and 'suspicion', are an unbounded invitation for authorities to make up legal outcomes as they go.
Sometimes I think some of these auditors do more than an audit. Some of them do like this guy did and went looking for an argument. Its my understanding that the purpose of audits is to test, and if necessary, educate the police on Civil Rights law. This guy seems to be looking for the argument in the situation. It may be hard at times when getting your Civil Rights violated, but we should always be respectful as much as the officers deserve
I do find that a lot of these auditing channeling are very confrontational and argumentative. Like abhorrently so. I respect one’s right to audit, especially those that are supposed to serve us, but I cannot stand how they act most of the time. Side note: not defending cops or being a boot licker, I just feel like auditors need to behave a lot more (for a lack of a better term) professionally.
“Just checking out how MY employees are doing,” is such a tool thing to say. This guy’s one of those guys that would call every travel or light foul during a pick-up basketball game. Even if he’s technically right, which he wasn’t in a lot of cases here, just be a decent human being, dude.
@@phillamarre There was absolutely nothing condescending about anything he said. He was extremely polite and didn’t even need to answer their questions at all. “I’m just here checking out the vehicle maintenance” isn’t condescending 😂😂
A friendly reminder to law enforcement officers: Whenever you see an auditor in the field, please be aware that your 'arching up', 'bullying up', or in any way bluffing your way through the encounter, going directly to the hardest degree, IS going to escalate matters. De-escalation is not cowardice or weakness -- it is the stated goal of every department, precinct and station in the country. Also, know this about auditors: They are doing these things in order to entice you to bad police behavior. Think about that: They are walking up to an armed individual, and trying to incite and even antagonize him or her to behave badly. However much you may not like that, it shows no signs of stopping anytime soon. You are not going to intimidate them, and if you try, you are in fact giving them what they came there to provoke. Plus, you should be able to appreciate that it serves a purpose, and one that can be beneficial to you. Why should another officer having problems, who reacts poorly in one of these encounters, be allowed to continue making your job harder? And yet, they do. That's not on the auditors, that's on that brother officer. Be like the lieutenant in this video, encourage the behavior he exhibited, and not that of the sergeant, within your own department's ranks. See the auditors as a resource, and use them as such. The officer they uncover acting outside the lines may be the next one who would have committed an atrocity, against himself or others. Allow them to expose that officer to you, so you can take the appropriate steps to get that officer help and training, before it's too late.
I dont believe the "auditors" or anyone else should be encouraged or discouraged. Police should observe, investigate if suspicious, and if crime is not afoot...leave them alone. Not their place to encourage or discourage. I will caution auditors to please consider the impact and risk. Just because you can audit does not mean every situation should be. Your actions can occupy resources needed elsewhere or cause safety issues to yourself, police and free citizens alike. Please be thoughtful in what and how you audit.
The good auditors don't try to antagonize police. The auditors actions are totally lawful and meant to test how lawful a police departments employees will conduct themselves.
They don't give a fkk. They work for the corrupted politicians that allow this. Did you know that the style of policing we have today started with racists, yes policing and the style used today was used to police the slaves and blacks beyond racism of the old times. It needs to be abolished, and allow citizen create a private group of law enforcement who actually work for their own community, as governments have proven time after time that they have no good intentions at all. Police have been militarized and are being used against us because we are seen as bad and people who can't govern themselves. Pull your heads out people. The idea of other men governing our lives is insanity especially because not one man on this Earth is perfect. How can we allow imperfect men to control our lives when they don't even know what's best for us? The idea of governments in the structures that are built today are obsolete and we need to rethink how we can rebuild and structured society in such a way that people's true freedoms that born with is not violated. I would much rather have a voluntaryism system. At a more local level when it comes to communities. It comes to this land America, we all know who they stole it from. We need to make reparations by giving the land back to the native Americans, and have them be the ones that govern in a beautiful ancient way as opposed to what we see with the FED government. Trust me it's disgusting what's going on and we don't want to continue down this road.
@@Jay_Kayy Uhm.... OK.... Abolish policing entirely. Convert our system of government to voluntary anarchy. (Actually, that first one would do a pretty fair job of accomplishing the second.) 'Make reparations' to the indigenous peoples by 'giving back the land' to them, letting them 'govern in a beautiful and ancient way'. Ancient ways, of course, that included bitter, bloody wars between various tribes, because just as people are imperfect, so too their various ways of governance, even the ancient and beautiful ones. Plus, I'm kinda thinking that a relative handful of people on reservations that even remember their peoples' 'ancient ways', may be insufficient to govern 330 million people who generate a $4 trillion annual economy. Unless we just give up on the concepts of commerce and free enterprise as well? In which case, we'd actually be inviting every other military power on the planet to come in and take possession of our resources, as we stand down our national military in favor of local chiefs commanding bands of braves. The shortcut way of saying all that being to lay down in front of China and hand everything over to them, because that is surely the logical end of this flight of fancy. And they are not well known for having a lot of sympathy for 'beautiful ancient ways'. Maybe we can just start with better and more effective training for our law enforcement officers, and go from there....?
The initial officer could have simply offered to answer any questions and observed the Auditor as he went around the cars, as he stated in the beginning he was looking at the cars primarily looking for bald tires and other unsafe equipment. Part of the problem with police, especially now, is their penchant to immediately jump to "suspicion of a crime". They don't actually investigate.
This pre-crime nonsense was enshrined by Terry. Surely any suspicious activity should be addressed. But if there's no evidence of a crime, there is no evidence. It comes down to protecting the police. It gives them license to go on fishing expeditions and come up with excuses to detain and/or arrest people. Meanwhile real crimes are happening everywhere.
@@jackburton2680 you must not be familiar with 1st amendment videos. If they’re not doing anything someone would consider “suspicious” then they won’t get a police interaction. So they have to do something a bit out of the ordinary. The point is it takes 4 seconds to realize the person is doing nothing wrong in a public place, and cops should know this and act accordingly. Instead they do the opposite and always look to escalate. That’s the whole point of these videos.
I completely agree with what you say, and condemn the officers' actions (except the Lt.). Having said that, I accept that in less-than-professional people, emotions shove intellect right off the cliff. During the defund the police movement, our small-town PD was vandalized, officers were stalked in their comings and goings, even to/from work, as were clerical staff! It made staying professional quite a challenge. The Lt. in this vid, as well as 90% of our small-town officers, accepted that challenge and conquered it. The other officers need more training, and I would suggest that some anger management training be tossed in as well. Never should our rights be trampled, especially when probably with just a couple of training seminars could the officers rise to being professional. (...said the optimist...)
@@qwerty30013 Not really. All the recorder had to say, was i was looking to see how good of a condition the police cars were in. Balled tires etc. Wouldn't of been escalated if he just showed the police the bare minimum respect, and tell them what he was doing
I love the videos where they keep arguing until a higher rank officer shows up and is like "Hey, you're good to go. Is there anything I can do for you?" No ego, no escalation. My guess is they actually understand the law and have better shit to do.
Let me get this straight, you can be detained for looking into store window for possible cause of casing the business for future breaking into to steal items, but cannot be detained for looking into vehicles for the possibility of casing the vehicle for possible future breaking in to steal items. Not saying that is what this person was doing by any means.
Considering you can see inside of a vehicle window from hundreds of feet away, while most store windows you'd need to get fairly close in order yo see anything inside of the store, plus as stated they were consistently pacing back and forth peering in while talking to one another definitely sounds suspicious. Looking into car windows, depends. If you're right up next to the car, probably, but the law is interpreted by the judge of the case
Looks like when someone is like Delgado is working on her "Guilty until proven Innocent approach" and constantly Escalating other Officers and encouraging them, Like a B squad cheerleader who does ANYTHING to get noticed by the Players.
Did you miss the part where the two guys in _Terry_ were not detained _just_ because they were looking into store windows? Honestly, this is the third comment in this vein that I've seen in this comment section, and I just wonder if you people watched the same video I did. ATA outlined all this stuff that people are missing.
Man i have learned so much from watching these videos, crazy when you actually see it broken down this well to see all the little things you cant and can do.
I was seriously considering mentioning that an auditor should go around the Burlington NC Police Department in some way or at least I was thinking that last night and then I came across this video tonight. That’s my hometown and I actually recognize at least one of those officers. It’s really cool to see that someone actually did go around my hometown though. And thank you for sure ATA for sharing this.
It's amazing how much of this could have been avoided by simply watching the person filming, or a short confrontation for an explanation and then observation.
So here's the flip-side. Taking the time to observe someone filming means taking that officer from whatever duties they were performing, to "babysit" an activity which generally has minimal probative value, except as a provocation to enforcement response. And while it's just one instance of filming, and maybe half an hour at best that the officer would be observing the activity, that could start add up if and when more 1AA events occur. And in this case, observation would be necessary. The auditor is walking around police vehicles, and while we know his intentions aren't harmful in any way, the officers don't know that. Even filming, this individual could be a threat for any number of potential ways to sabotage vehicles and put officer safety at risk. I'm not saying that gives them the right to detain him, ask him questions about what he's doing, or anything other than observing his actions. I'm just saying that it does put a question of officer safety on the table. Of course, that begs the question of why official vehicles are parked in a place immediately accessible to the general public, something that hopefully the auditor identifies to people that can take action to correct it.
Thank you relating the facts in a reasoned, methodical fashion. Thank you also for withholding your opinions until the end, explaining how you came your conclusions, and sharing them.
You know I find it mind blowing how cops don’t know an auditors MO at this point. If I were in his shoes I’d be like understandable have a nice day. Maybe just stick around and observe for a bit if it felt like something fishy was going on.
I agree. You HAVE to assume that significant numbers of police have seen these videos, yet some keep falling for it time and time again. If someone is around a police station with a camera, its a safe bet he's done his homework and any attempt at intimidation or shenanigans in response will make you famous for ALL the wrong reasons. The auditor is on security cameras, and on your bodycam. It will save you time, energy, and public embarrassment if you just sat there and observed the auditor doing what they do until they simply moved on. It seems their egos prevent some of them from doing things the easy way vs the hard way.
That is because, while most of the interactions we see are from auditors, they are a minuscule percentage of encounters. For every footage you see, there is probably upwards of a hundred incidents of vandalism or attempted vandalism.
@@timar6868 If they don’t antagonize the officers they might not make an irrational decision, then they can’t score the bag. The counter point I have to justify their actions is: its also a kind of litmus test for officer conduct when dealing with uncooperative citizens, we have rights and they’re not allowed to take them just because they don’t like us. If they violate their rights for doing things that are within the law, what’s to say they haven’t done it before.
@@timar6868 Annoying or antagonizing officers without otherwise breaking the law is within the first amendment. That may not be my cup of tea or yours, but if the trained professionals don't like behavior that may be admittedly annoying but is otherwise protected under the first amendment, then they can find another career. We've seen enough behavior from officers assaulting or even killing people for FAR less than people exercising their constitutional rights. Maybe if cops would behave themselves, know the laws, and conduct themselves as professionals, it wouldn't be so easy for auditors to get them to fall for the same tricks.
Couple years ago, I thought you guys are just trouble makers. But now, I can see you guys are doing great work by bringing transparency and keeping bad cops in check. Thanks a lot.
Never side with the cops or hold them as heroes for doing their paid jobs. Take back the qualified immunity as well. I side with all lawful conducts. The constitution trumps all of their unconstitutional fake laws.
Nah, the majority are assholes. Very few actually do anything to keep cops in check. Most auditors make it worse and cause cops to be highly confrontational. I hate both equally.
You used the word "of" twice? I'm going to have to give that sentence a B-. Though your sentence is well intentioned and accurate, it is both inappropriate to end a sentence with a preposition, and your use of the word "of" at the end was absolutely redundant. "They're employees of a collective of which you're a tiny part." See how that works?
I mean, good on keeping the pd within their limits. Applaud it! But why is it that almost every single 'auditor' I see on TH-cam or other social media sight have some sort of complex in the way they speak. Doing good work with the worst mindset at the forefront
@@Grabient No, not Audit the Audit. I mean the main protagonist/antagonist of the videos wouldn't have been in their events on most occasions if they just lived their lives. They also have an attitude when confronting others like their ego defines who they are as human beings. I love people who cover these events and explain everything, just not the people in the videos.
I think the fact that they have adopted the title of 'auditor' to make their actions sound official, as opposed to simply calling themselves members of the press or a reporter is another symptom of the same issue. When discussing government-controlled property and government employees, you can tell when some of the 'auditor' individuals use personal possession language such as "My Employees" and "My Building", disregarding that the government employees would be 'self-employed' and would have equal ownership of the property under the same theory of ownership via taxation.
@@hunterhavard8467 Agreed, I mean, what business did he have filming the cars? Dude could've been home, doing something constructive or you know? Minding his own business, but I feel that a large amount of these "Auditors" are just looking to start shit. The officers told him he could film from the sidewalk all he wants, seems reasonable to me.
Every commanding officer should be like this LT. Open minded and quick to do the right thing regardless of if it makes another officer look bad or goes against the officers wishes. And he did it in a way that allowed him to educate all 3 officers without degrading the SGT. Kudos
This is the second video I've seen where the auditor is setting a bad precedent. He was not ensuring that 'his employees had good tires on their vehicles'. He was trying to provoke the police. "Tires are mostly in good shape......good tires." No, sorry. This guy is engaging in a ruse while he awaits police engagement. Maybe the auditor thinks it's exciting. Maybe he thinks it's a good idea to create an opportunity for law enforcement to perform under. This contrivance, however, is simply not an ethical way to do so. It is reasonable for law enforcement to feel that their safety is being put at risk by people lurking around their vehicles. Not lurking? Picture yourself up in a window of that building, peering out and seeing somebody walking around each police vehicle taping. Picture yourself in your kitchen seeing somebody walking around your own house, your own vehicle doing so. Would you find it suspicious? Would you be concerned? If I walked on to a jobsite where I work and people were walking around our scissor and boom lifts, our cranes, I would have to suggest they all be inspected for safety as a result. An individual who intends to damage said vehicles could easily do it under the guise of simply inspecting them on video. The tools needed to tamper with brake lines, hydraulics, etc easily fit in a pocket or down a pant leg, as anybody familiar would attest. It is reasonable, in light of cases where police vehicles have been tampered with (putting police and the public at risk), for them to regard individuals in this situation as suspicious. Due to the serious injury or death that can result from damaged vehicle systems this is not a trifling matter. Of all the methods we can utilize to build a mutually beneficial relationship between Police Officers and the law abiding public, I truly hope this is no longer one of them. We are violating their right to feel safe and I think any one of us would be ill at ease in their situation to say the least. And for good reason.
We need both kinds of auditors. Police need to be trained to deal with upset individuals and respect their rights just as equally as calm rational individuals. Proper de-escalation training needs to be audited as well. In fact it's sometimes more important. It's easy for an officer to interact with respectful individuals, but far more important that they also can properly conduct themselves with upset or anygry citizens as well.
That is the point! The audit was on the cops behavior towards his actions! Not on the vehicles! He wanted to see if they would escalate or deescalate, and to see if they were honest!
@@jamesweaver1738 That's easy to say, less easy to defend I'd wager. Police have extraordinary authority and as such, extraordinary scrutiny is a must. My only contention is that this mascarade poses a real threat. The auditor certainly intends no harm but, if we look at sophisticated criminals we see the adoption of mundane practices to accomplish terrible goals. Posing as an auditor will be a criminal avenue we should be ready for, mark my words.
@@jamesweaver1738 Furthermore, James, while there are differences between public and private property, the brake lines are the same, the tools needed are the same, the intention to cause harm is the same.
I love your channel and the way you break down the interactions of all parties. Very informative and educational. Thanks for all the time you spend doing this!
Love how you quote specific laws or specific cases in regards to the different locations, states or whatever you call them in America, to make sense in an unbiased and logical way the interaction between the auditors and police.
Its easiest if you think of each state as its own mini country, with one big govt uniting all of them. "United States" as the name implies. Each state also has its own elected officials, its own cops, ect. The US has "State" governments and a "Federal" government. Each state has its own laws, then there are also federal laws that are across all states (in theory). I say in theory because sometimes the state law doesn't agree with federal law, Its actually a whole thing with drug legalization at the moment. With State law enforcement not enforcing some federal laws that their state disagrees with. (and yeah there is federal law enforcement too, and sometimes they don't get along, sometimes they even arrest eachother) Anyway all of this to say the channel uses lots of rulings from lots of states because what is legal in one part of the country isn't always legal in another. Our system is complicated.
@@Link2edition thanks for the explanation, it makes sense how you've explained it, but makes no sense why it's like that, especially like you say when state and federal laws clash. I'm from the UK, the law in England and Wales is the same no matter what county you are in, Scotland has slightly different legal system, but I think it's close enough, no idea about Northern Ireland though lol, it really keeps things simple when you travel around the country, that said you can probably travel the entire length of the UK in less than 14 hours, so would be crazy if every county had different laws.
@@legion162 It would be in a place as small as the UK for sure. But the United states is massive, with several individual states being larger than the entire UK on their own. (Apparently the UK is about the size of Oregon, a state famous for only recently legalizing pumping your own fuel) In the US it lets you choose a place to live with laws that suit your tastes without ever leaving the country. For instance I have avoided moving because I like guns and cars, and regulations on both are really lax in my state, but regulations on drugs and alcohol are pretty strict compared to others. I live in a state slightly larger than England for context, so it only really comes up if I am on a long road trip. I the last time I took a 14 hour trip the only law I had to adjust to was stowing my weapon in my vehicle as I passed through some states, when it would be on my hip otherwise. Another one that comes to mind, we had a guy get arrested in my state for carrying drugs that he was prescribed in another state, because they were illegal in this one. So stupid stuff can indeed happen. Edit: Pardon my wall of text, I actually lived in London for a year, so I find conversation about the differences in the legal systems interesting.
I'm not a cop, nor do I know a cop, but it's people like this that make me worry about dozens of people getting mowed down by a van because they can't get laid and are mad at everyone for it
I love how its always and everytime "i am the supervisor" No you are not. For these two yes but since you are already there, obviously he meant your boss.
Love seeing a professional police officer demonstrate his profession for his subordinates like the Lieutenant did in this video. Well done. In my view, we have lost our orientation to conducting ourselves as professionals in our careers.
Overview. Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental health condition in which these sick individuals calling themselves frauditors have an unreasonably high sense of their own importance. They need and seek too much attention and want people to admire them. People with this disorder lack the ability to understand or care about the feelings of others.
I'm not really an ACAB type person, nor am I exactly a thin blue line type either. I am always disgusted when police overstep their authority and put innocent civilians in ahrms way, or subject them to unlawful actions. I do however appreciate seeing how you rate and commend officers who do a good job. It helps everything not be so bleak.
@@stephenandrezeywskijr9899 there's plenty of government websites where they could look it right up on there phone in an instant. Lol I don't think even lawyer's r using law libraries much these days. There should be a website designed specifically for cops to do such if there isn't already and it updates at least twice a day so u get the most up to date laws. Of course they wouldn't like that because there goes one of their biggest excuses they use all the time right there. No more plausible deniability if it was right at their finger tips the whole time. No more of this BS "well I really thought that was the law" and that's all it takes to get out of trouble.
The sergeant showed up believing that he was preparing to commit a crime because the female officer exaggerated the circumstances. The male officer acted without bias when he investigated it himself
The auditor who also fundamentally misunderstood something got a higher grade… y’all have a weird hate boner going on. Like it’s one thing to have a preconceived bias it’s another thing to have it drip from every word you spew.
This was a good interaction bc overall everyone remained courteous and the Lt. Was super professional and shows why he is the Lt. We need more “good cops” videos bc good cops are being outshined
Once upon a time; cops used to do actual police work, ie. observe, document, and then approach. Nowadays; it's confront, escalate, and extort right off.
Now that’s the way to handle and Deescalate a situation 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼and keep a cool head around people and not arrest and harm people.. thank you 🙏🏽 officers
@@Whydoesthissitesuck of course they do, that doesn't mean it isn't condescending. Hell, condescension implies looking down from a superior position, kinda like a citizen calling a cop their employee, it's very rude to just off the bat call them that even if technically true.
I used to watch a lot of these self-proclaimed "auditors" back in the day and eventually had to stop because I was getting annoyed with the rise of really bad ones who didn't have the maturity to do it properly. Your channel is great because it calls out rights and wrongs on BOTH sides.
There was an auditor at my old job and they were being unruly and using a squeaky toy every time someone engaged them in conversation.
COULDN"T AGREE MORE
Does that mean you can't face reality?
Reminds me of that one video where one guy stopped when he saw someone else pulled over. He approached the police and started to question them. Not only that, but he had his wife and kids with him who sounded like they wanted nothing to do with the situation.
Yepp. They're no longer auditors. They are just searching for a lawsuit.
Lieutenant gets an A. He did his job professionally. Need more cops like this.
he gets an A++++++ compared to so many we see on this channel
He deserves an A*.
He gets a straight up S. Needless confrontation is defused in a matter of seconds in a friendly and respectful way
S. I like it. Ata needs to incorporate the metal gear solid s rank when it's been so awesome that even an A won't do.
@@paulharper4196 all my songs in Beat Saber are S or SS rank lol and "Beat Saber" sounds very blue line appropriate. Lawls
“Why does no one trust cops”
Supervisor turns up and all of a sudden the story changes. Cops will lie in a second to help themselves
“Just checking on my employees” sounds like something you would say too, people often forget that cops pay taxes just as much as you do it’s their building and cars too. Don’t trust the cops until you need them got it 👍🏾
@@shuaibb8992 it’s their job, we aren’t require to trust them for them to do their job. They swear an oath and we pay taxes to fund them. Gtfoh with that “until you need them” nonsense. Weirdo
@@shuaibb8992 lmao bootlicker
@@shuaibb8992 they pay taxes with our tax money!! Overpaid under educated welfare recipients!!
@@marcuswilliams5255 yup and they pay themselves too then. My bad for pointing out people hate cops til they need them ☠️
I remember walking my son to main street to shop because it was such a nice day. We passed by the police station and he got so excited to see their cars I had to take him to see them up close. He was only 5 or 6 at the time. So we walked right into their parking lot and he set his eyes on a brand new cruiser - our town was small and would only upgrade a few cars at a time. The other cars were a bit worn but that cruiser really was beautiful AND shiny! How could I not let him get a better look at it?!
A few minutes went by and 2 officers came to see what we were doing. I told them we really just wanted to get a close up look at the new cruiser. They saw how my son was excited but polite and one of them said, "Okay. Let's get a real good look." He opened the car door so we could climb in. My son sat in front first, then we switched and he sat in the back. The officer was SO awesome. My son got to turn on the lights and even the siren for a few seconds and the other officer was also smiling ear-to-ear.
It was one of the best days EVER for my boy. He couldn't stop talking about it for days. I thought he might even have an interest in law enforcement after that but he liked the fire engine better (the school took him there on a field trip).
Still, while we were having such a great time checking out their new ride the officer asked if I knew if any of my son's friends would react the same way. This lead to an annual event in town incorporating the newest cruisers for every day citizens to check out - inside and out. Sometimes, they even had the fire truck and/or an ambulance. It really was fun.
That parking lot didn't even have a fence around it - there was no NEED for it until years later when our little town became a much larger city.
This actually moved my heart 😢
A beautiful experience. But I am wondering, how long ago did this happen?
Great story, I enjoyed that 🥰 thanks
It’s sad that our country is now full of so much fear, anger, and suspicion…I think we all crave times like you shared in your anecdote.
Truly Awesome !!!
LT is a rockstar. Was super impressed by his immediate de-escalation, professionalism and knowledge. If he was common this audit community wouldn’t be nearly as popular. Let’s hope for more police like him.
@Pedro Daniel Lopes Ferreira those are good questions and we should all be asking them.
@Pedro Daniel Lopes Ferreira true, it's still wild west and slavery.
@Pedro Daniel Lopes Ferreira "Areas that are not policed have lower crime rates." That's why they are not policed. You have cause and effect backwards. You look really foolish suggesting that there are fewer crimes when police are not in an area. I'm sure favelas in poor countries where police are afraid to go are super peaceful and law abiding areas.
@@toaster4693 your comparison to an average neighborhood with high crime rates is a poverty stricken area controlled by cartels?
@Pedro Daniel Lopes Ferreira Police is required. Who else is going to assist you when someone breaks into your home at an inconvenient nightly hour, for example? And no, not everyone is willing or able-bodied enough to defend themselves.
And who else is going go to assist with the documenting and investigation following an incident or robbery? Who else is going to ensure people stick to the laws we set as society instead of people going wild and driving drunk or worse?
I could think of a hundred more examples. You may not like the police, but they are very much needed for society to function. However, it is important to ensure the police stays in *service* to the population. And I do think they should be held to a higher standard.
Lieutenant was a class act, I'm glad he's leading by example. He's definitely owned his title as a Lieutenant.
Yes and no, good he upkept what is right, however leading by example idk bit hard as this should not have happened if he was doing his job correctly (provided he was directly overseeing these officers)
@@Kylav1996 you can't hold him accountable for other people's ignorance. Leading by example yes, from now on these officers will know how to handle an 1st Amendment Auditor.
@@Freddyfrm18 Sure I can, wtf is that even as a comment, you think being clueless on amendment laws is passable at all? let along a sergeant being clueless.
@@Kylav1996 You're right, you can. You'd be wrong to do so, but you certianly can.
Yelp ; I agree 💯
The female changes her story to fit the sgt detaining the cameraman. Covering for other cops is the reason for the disconnect between the public and police
Not sure why the Auditor said she was professional she did change her story to support the foolish set and she seemed to want to escalate things - she seems power hungry to prove herself (shows weak person).
@@openminds8765 I'm sorry but female cop generally are I don't know if it's a proof of power or just women but they tend to push it quite often
It’s why cops like this hate cameras so much, they keep everyone honest and show what really happened. Not a lot of room for deceit and it pisses them off that they can’t get away with murder. The LT was the only good apple
well, you know, I think the cadets are trained that way. To me it makes little sense that police embrace the military system. That seems obviously mistaken. It pretexts that the public is the enemy. Seriously stupid.
@@dominiquealpha-omega5322 I should’ve clarified, I wasn’t suggesting that the police adopt the military mentality twords citizens. We already have that. However some of their rules and regulations such as ‘obligation to disobey’ and aspects of internal accountability. In many ways, not all, the military hold their own accountable internally and it’s something the police force should do instead of protecting people who abuse their power and commit crimes in the blue.
I'm impressed by the power of the lieutenant. He was able to immediately surpress the situation.
Oh god, imagine if they had fucked up in front of him, there would be no asshole left
That LT is a hell of a cop. He knew it was an audit, knew there was NO malicious intent, and steered the situation in a way that benefited the auditor, his employees, and more importantly, his community. Officer Delgado needs to be educated heavily; her accusation could have EASILY caused serious trouble for absolutely nothing
Women think emotionally, when “panic” ensued I don’t know what you expected.
“Lex Fridman is dangerous” 18 min inspirational video on TH-cam ends w the poem “if” by R Kipling
Yes... so many seem to thrive on confrontation
@@DennisHeenan Oh please, men are huge snowflakes with tender sensitivities. That's why so many escalate so quickly; because their feelings are hurt.
@@DennisHeenan bro get out of here w that shit
Of all the first amendment channels this is by far my favorite. The care you take in looking at these types of incidents rationally from all sides of the conflicts is stellar. Keep up the great work.
@THE MOST TARGETED CITIZEN you must be new to this channel
@@wtp1764 wrong
Seems to have ruffled some feathers here. He takes a rational point of view and doesn’t debase himself relying on his emotions to make his decisions. This shows a rational thinking and logical reasonable conclusions. Can’t ask for more than that. If you don’t like the law then take it up at the polls or in the courts. “Shooting the messenger” is not a logical or rational course of action.
Top tier
@@wtp1764 not really
The Lieutenant also had a really good instincts to be able to judge what was going on so fast and realizing that the cops pride was the only thing damaged, then proceeded to be a great civil servant and offer assistance! This man needs to be promoted, or sent to instruct new trainee cops on how to serve their communities
Could not agree more! Worth his salary for sure!
LT was probably like "am I seriously having to deal with this shit right now? There are real crimes being committed. These officers are such idiots"
The LT employed some of the best de-escalation I’ve seen, good man.
He was smooth with it. 😏👌🏾
How do you de-escalate from a skinny white guy filming... He just said let's move on and have a good day.
@@physicsfaith exactly like that...
That cop looked so confused when his boss offered to take him out of the situation, and immediately showed the kid respect. That was fun to watch.
Yeah he was bamboozled lmao. He was like wtf sir... That's not what we were talked to about...
"kid"
That "kid" deserves ZERO respect. What he DOES deserve i can't post because i would be perma banned from U-tube.
"Moving forward, how can we do somethin for you here? You can film all the way in the back lot. Tell me if you need paperwork. Tell me what you need, we're gonna try and get it for ya, they're gonna close pretty soon, you know what I mean."
Yeah, knowing police and what "fragging" is, I wouldn't trust some officers if I was that boss.
I like the second guy, remaining silent and observing the situation until he found a place to insert himself to say something to help the situation
He was the smart one by not assuming anything.
I absolutely hate the fact that police are internally investigated. There needs to be a 3rd party review board and it should be much easier for cops to get fired!
This guy has done other videos where he is purposely trying to trigger cops to not do the right thing, you podders are huge part of this problem. Don't they have better things to do than annoying coos to make videos. Video guys are 90% problem
And harder to transfer, don't forget the clean-slate bullshit...
@@seand.g423agreed. i used to work at walgreens - if you get fired from a walgreens, they put a flag on your name. you can't work at any other walgreens. it's always baffled me that walgreens has more oversight than police departments.
Agreed
There's lots of officers that could learn a lot from just watching this channel.
Nobody learns shit from this channel. Everything he says is followed by "HOWEVER..." Basically, the long arm of the law can fuck you if it wants to. Seems to be his conclusion in every situation.
Alternatively, a proper training program lasting longer than a rats pregnancy might also do the job
They only watch to learn how to defeat auditors
There's lots of auditors that could learn a lot, as well. Many auditors (like the one in this video) mistakenly believe they can't be trespassed from a public area unless they've committed a crime. But as ATA shows, they can be trespassed simply if an authorized person (police officer) decides the implied consent to be there is revoked.
@@Michael-cp6gr Looking for "trouble" with a camera? 3 cops to deal with a cell phone? As if any of those 3 could deal with actual "trouble". if the Constitution is threatened by a guy with a cell phone and not those 3 incompetent LEOs, with firearms, than we are in trouble.
What I like about this channel is that you are very even handed in the way you assess the audit. There are no preconceptions that taint your analysis of each individual.
except he grades the victim
@@shaystern2453 referring to the citizens in these interactions as victims is a preconception dude. These videos are nearly exclusuvely of interactions between law enforcement and citizens. The grades are obviously given after ATA reviews footage and researches relevant laws. Otherwise the grades would be given beforehand.
@@fizzyheart2486 Agreed 💯 percent
@@shaystern2453 in addition to what fizzy heart said, when people are infringed upon in a way that they have 0 control of the situation, he doesn't assign a grade.
This guy is a legend
Feel bad for that cop with the beard, I could tell he knew this whole thing was bullshit but didn’t want to speak out against his supervisor
Usually the beanie wearing cops are chill he gave off chill vibes, I honestly think he was laughing at his supervisors bullcrap
@@bryanlanier7307facts!! I am cracking up because beanie cops are chill af!! Most times. 🤣
@@bryanlanier7307Never thought of it, but beanie cops ARE always chill 😂
beanie cops used to be burnouts. hahaha.
@@Mike_Oxardif it was another cop he could. I’m sure you’d get in trouble speaking up to your supervisor
So I came across your channel a couple days ago and let me tell you … I am HOOKED ! I love how you stop and educate and so clearly spoken , I’m learning a lot just from these videos ! THANK YOU 🙏🏽
I agree with you that’s how I felt to the first time watching one of the videos this channel and long island audit are the best.
I've basically binged this stuff after discovering the auditing community a few days ago. Long Island Audit is my favorite so far, and LackLuster is also pretty good. I see Amagansett Press brought up a lot though I haven't checked that channel out yet, personally.
Same! Isn't this channel awesome? And very educational!
Thank u man
I don't get why police don't just watch from afar (like in this case watch their security camera) until they're satisfied nothing illegal is occurring. Why do they always want to make contact? Contact seems to involve ego and authority every time - recipe for CR Violations and/or disaster.
Because the police don’t know if said person observing the cop cars is messing with equipment. There have been occurrences where cop cars have had break lines cut and caused accidents.
@@connorlapinske8522 thats why they said watch from afar.
They must have other things to do then keep watch on someone . They might have thought this is the fastest way to get the situation resolved .
@@qweds3127 They ?MAY? have other things to do. I suspect there's a cop, who watches security cameras, as part of their duties. Like, whoever is manning the front desk. The number of times we see multiple police show up (more than 10 sometimes) to challenge a person exercising their constitutional rights is disgusting imo.
@@32266ms right, when 10 show up, they must have other things to do.
Man, I wish I got a C when I fundamentally misunderstood things in school. Very charitable.
He's super critical of regular citizens and very forgiving with actual law enforcement.
Turns out in high school nowadays you can miss an entire semester and still get a passing grade lol.
@@biocular Yes, this channel has fallen down the hole of agreeing with police that citizens should have an exact understanding of EVERY law in the book but it is too much to ask that police know every law they try to enforce.
@Brandon Time to agree with you but be pedantic anyways.
Police are citizens even if they pretend they're a different class.
While AtA does have bootlicking proclivities (as evidenced in his grading system), a good chunk of the outs he gives to police are through bad lawmaking and a corrupt legal system that allows the actions and behaviour.
@@biocular He is critical of auditors not "regular citizens" because if you are making your lifes work to target very specific areas of law enforcement you should probably have a better understanding of the laws you are auditing. Yes law enforcement should have an understanding of the fundamentals of the laws they are enforcing but so should the person who is testing those laws because unfortunately courts will always err on the side of law enforcement. Generally speaking when this channel reviews content from a "regular" non auditor citizen its far more lenient on its grading structure versus people who are running their own channels. I think this stems from the understanding that bad auditors give the good ones a bad name and are held to higher degrees of accountability.
The younger guy in the back. Watch his face, the affect shifts - he's laughing internally at the other two and I love it.
"I'm just here to quietly exercise my rights, and not be impeded"
beautifully said.
Ah yes quietly exercise my right and not be impeded has I go out of my way to make other peoples lives purposly worse
@TheAbyssal your life is worse when someone is recording in public ?
You walk by thousands of cameras every single day. Some of them even take pictures of your face and your license plate.
Grow up.
To be fair, the guy with the camera isn't exactly intelligent with how he does things. It's unnecessary to call the cops your "employees." I understand saying they are here to serve and protect, but that's him trying to get a rise imo. It always makes you look better to stay neutral and not become offensive.
If you pay taxes cops are your employees
The guy is an instigator and got exactly what he was looking for
@@SkylaneMusic a pay out ?
Picture a black guy do the same..
@@litrackenkevin2729 Now what?
There is literally thousands of these videos going around the internet at this point, the fact that these police officers keep falling for it and making themselves look ridiculous is pretty unbelievable.
Most agencys just ignore them at this point. When they first started doing this I was working for a small pd as 911. I will never forget the day an "auditor" came to us. He was so rude to us. My officers were so confused lol. They did tell him to leave because they didnt understand why he was there. We spent the rest of the shift researching it and after that stopped caring. They are literally just wanting a rise for views. If you ignore them they will go away. The video is still up on youtube and you can visually see how confused they were.
@@lArtemislll Yeah, that's what I was getting at. They just want a rise for views. So the fact that there is still police officers out there that keep giving them that rise is ridiculous.
@@bobguy6542lol. Good one.
They don't care, den of snakes they back eachother up
It shows a weird state of affairs in the US where information is just not communicated
Take a national system like USPS - they SHOULD given that they're national be able to send a memo around telling people to read Poster Seven and see that it's legal to record in public areas
But they don't
The male officer was great IMO. He spoke up and deescalted a situation that his Sgt and fellow officer were escalting. Takes alot of courage to do that with a supervisor right there ESPECIALLY when the one you're going against is ur supervisor. He should get an A++. And the LT obviously did a great job! 👍
“The male officer”
Huh? There are 3 male officers here.
@@hockey161616 he referenced the male officer in comparison to supervisor and the lieutenant... which only leaves one other male officer...
@@cyberpunknz6536Their point is that saying male was redundant.
@@kendrawaddams3174 stay free
Remember people, if you get called out for being a moron, just tell the person to 'Stay free' (but DON'T capitalise first letter, to show your lack of literacy). Yeah, that'll learn them real good. You can keep 'stay free' in your holster (even though it's meaningless).
The Lt. is how every police officer should be.
Your narration and articulation gets an A+. Your calm, clear demeanor lends itself to detailed understanding of the many nuances surrounding interactions with authorities and individual rights. Thank you for your contributions!
it’s a hired narrator just sayin 😝
@@phpARTI miss the old voice
Being in the Army and knowing how nerdy and into regulations LTs love to be, I can only imagine when they told this LT what was going on, he was like, "OH MY TIME TO SHINE!" 😂
This 😂😂
Completely different rank structure brother. Retired AF here. You definitely wouldn't see a 22 year old Lt in a PD. They are seasoned officers and would be more along the lines of a Maj or Lt Col in the military. Omly Captain and Chief is above an Lt in a PD.
An LT in law enforcement is very different. It is more as this, in my field: Corrections Cadet to Officer, to Corrections Senior Officer, to Corrections Sergeant, to Corrections Lieutenant, to Corrections Captain, to Warden I, Warden II, Warden III. Above that all is the regional director, who answers to the commissioner. The commissioner answers to the Governor.
😂🤣 Right!
@@LottiDotti76 😭🤣 Blah blah blah It's a JOKE slow azz.
Honestly, I get so hostile and angry at corrupt and narcissistic cops, *but,* I absolutely LOVE it when you find and commend one worthy of an A+. I agree with your evaluation and thank that gentleman for being a good, honest and decent person, despite the power he has to potentially abuse.
“Lex Fridman is dangerous” 18 min inspirational video on TH-cam ends w the poem “if” by R Kipling
That LT really looked like he cared about the oath he took. Was calm and respectful and made the citizen feel safe and comfortable. No wonder he is a lieutenant.
I love how cops always refuse to tell u the law u "broke" cuz they know they will get busted for lying when it goes to trial
Some of us believe this is proof they are incapable of performing the duties they were hired to perform. How does one uphold the law, if one does not KNOW the law. They should all be dismissed instantly if proven they do not know the laws they were hired to uphold, it is 90% of the job.
@@rgregoryful totally agree with you, and it's something that has never made sense to me. Why is it that lawyers need at least 8 years of education plus passing the bar exam in order to practice law, yet police officers need less than a year to enforce the law? Why do lawyers have to carry liability insurance if they commit malpractice and/or get sued by the people they represent, but police officers have qualified immunity?
Police actually aren't required to correctly know the law. As long as they claim their ignorance was in good faith they won't get in legal trouble.
Try that as a regular citizen. Ignorance of the law isn't an excuse unless you're in law enforcement. Seems biased imo.
@@AlcideIzMine right if I fuck up I go to jail them slap on the wrist
i tell all 3 of them do u have proof i was in the car show me now if not then all 3 of u need to go back to school now if not then my lawyer will issue all 3 of u with lawsuit on each of u & i tell the judge all 3 say the same thing i was in the car & i ask for proof they dont want to show it & want to make up things right there.... since all 3 want to play that game they need to be fired on the spot cuz they going to get someone hurt in that office by pissing off the wrong person cuz what they did
I guess I can see how you gave the SGT a C, but I would lower that because he kept denying that he detained the photographer even though he definitely did detain him.
i agree i would've given him a C- or D, if he lies once its not far fetched to think he lies in other interactions with his job
“Boy that cried wolf” is gonna catch up to him one day.
I used to live in Burlington and Sergeant Marsh shot and killed a person welding a machete in 2018 so that shows you what type of guy he is
Lying is an investigative tool that we definitely want police officers to have. Lying to escape accountability, Lying on reports or lying in court however is totally unacceptable, unethical and illegal.
@@itsraid_bitchez8084 carrying or wielding?
This is why I love this channel so much. It is the definition of 3rd party unbiased evaluation of these incidents. Thank you for showing the educated side of things.
Yea.. Educated.. Lol.. Go read the title of the video again. It's misleading at the very least.. And more like who ever uploaded the video itself is indeed the true liar.
@@TinfoilHatWearer thanks. I watched the video again and it seems both the thumbnail and title are both accurate and not miss leading, unless you have other video that would shead additional light on this interaction. I used the term education as the poster evaluated the incident clear and fair based on standing case law. Again if you have additional factual information to add to, i would love to hear it as it would help expand my knowledge and view of this subject.
...he couldn't tell enTIREly if the tires were in good shape 😂
indeed, the comment I came to make ( :
did a search instead
That case where someone was trespassed from a sidewalk is insane.
I fundamentally disagree with loitering laws
Maybe. But it's part of the loitering laws
"Bow, slaves. Your master has decreed loitering laws." To whom does any free man owe obedience? In principle, none. In practical application, might apparently makes right; so be well armed.
@@achingbach2904 I fully invite you to apply this mindset outside of a police station while armed. It may not end well for you.
@@gary9346 mindslave mindset. This is exactly why I said that apparently might makes right: you literally support the idea that they should make the rules because they have more firepower. I used to think like that too. We have to do better my friend. Seriously, you just wished my death at the hands of your righteous heroes. Think about it. Should I really go assert my rights in such a way that will end in my demise and perhaps even injury to officers? That's bad for everyone. You have got to think deeper. If what I have said is wrong in principle, please correct me. But I made distinction between principle and practical application. Should we be lead by fear or by principle? "Comply or die" is the anthem of bullies and murderers. We have to grow past this.
Yay for senior officers who step in and teach the children how to properly do their job! 🙌🏻
If i was a senior officer i would never let a child cop ruin my career, risking my reputation & pension, i find it funny when cops back each other knowing damn well they might take you down with them for what they did like the guy who killed george floyd.
Love how you break everything down with case law. It really does let us "people" know what the real truth is...
Case law and truth are not always the same thing. At the end of the day that's just another man's opinion too.
@@jacobfernandez6055 so you know the law?
@matthew mattes comprehend deez nuts ha goddem
@matthew mattes you @jacob? I asked him.
@@plutotech very vague please elaborate the question
@AuditTheAudit Your educating the public on Terry is important. Keep up the good work.
There are people in this world who gain great delight in seeing how many buttons they can push. Good on the LT for recognizing and not getting caught up in this behavior out of all the other parties.
Yup just bored people trying to get views for TH-cam. To see if they can push and push cops buttons so they can Sue
the buttons he's pushing wouldn't be buttons if the cops knew citizen rights to begin with.
@@revenantflow984 bingo
Cops need to be audited because of this exact reason that old man officer was trying to abuse his authority if your going to be a cop you HAVE TO KNOW THE LAWWWWWWWW
@@porkchopexpress6890 I disagree, people are free to do whatever they want, no matter how annoying, desperate, attention seeking or irregular it may be, as long as they are doing so within the law. It’s up to the police to uphold the citizens rights and not overstep their authority. The TH-camr’s just performing an audit in which the Sargent failed miserably. On the other hand the lieutenant recognized the filmer’s intention (audit) and let him go as he was acting in a lawful manner. A++ for the lieutenant
You do a good job explaining the law and citing court cases. Blessings to you and your loved ones...
I can’t stand a lot of these audit channels like the guy filming. They are usually there to get a bad reaction by being rude and just for some views. I love this channel it’s fantastic. And it’s because you stick to evidence based facts and not emotions led (or views led) opinions or bias. Great work 🙏🏽
I couldn't agree more. And I feel like a lot of them are taking advantage of today's climate and fear of events like active shooters. For example the 4th of July shooter, was seen taking photos and videos of a Synagogue just days prior to July 4th. So I can understand how some might be weary of some one taking video of your building. And when confronted the Auditors offer no excuse nor reasons for doing what they're doing, they simply say "Im legally allowed too". To me they just act like "Slip and Fall" scam artists, they want to escalate the situation as much as they can, in the hopes of suing the state or city for a big pay day.
If a police officer can not handle even a tiny bit of scrutiny by the public, they need to surrender their badge.
@@charlie7mason It has nothing to do with attempting to avoid scrutiny. Police are trained to pay attention to what is going on around them and to be suspicious when faced with someone who is behaving strangely. This is an extremely important part of their job. Sadly, there are losers like the guy in this video who have nothing better to do than seek out the police and intentionally behave suspiciously in order to force them into an interaction with him.
Watch long island audit
@@slip6hazard9 why should someone have to give you or a cop or anyone else a reason for doing something that is legal? If you want to color your hair pink why would you owe someone a reason or excuse for doing it? If you want to go for a walk around your town why would you owe anyone a reason or excuse for doing it? If you wanted to take some pictures of the paint style or the landscaping of a nice house why do you owe someone a reason or excuse?
He did however give a reason he was checking up on public employees and looking to see if the tires looked safe and if they left any info on public display that shouldn't be... He gave them more then he needed to
And its not a scam that someone follows the laws and sues a cop or city when the police violate their rights... if a police department or a city wants to hire and keep police officers on the force that A)Dont understand simple basic rights/laws or B)Dont care about the laws C)Feel that the laws do not apply to them Then it is the Department or Citys fault for having such a legal liability on the pay roll and IF/WHEN they cause a lawsuit it is the fault of the City or Departments for allowing the liability to remain...
Do some audit channels treat the police bad? Sure they do but we are not required to be nice to each other and for the most part from the majority of the audit videos i have seen they dont treat the police bad till the police get a unprofessional attitude with them or start giving orders or making demands that they have lawful power to give
Your videos are fantastic! It's rare to find voices out there that are so professionally neutral. Police AND Auditors need to be better, and you are a great example of that
“Am I detained?”
“No, you’re not detained I-“
Walks away immediately
I like you, you know your stuff. Audit the police officers, also Audit the auditer. Misconception and confusion should not be out there. A+ for your this Sir!
HE rolled big arrogant though "Just checking on my employees" 😅😂🤣
Yeah. Like he completely lost me there. Altough he was in the right, his arrogance IS what started it all
@@lordgino2006 I do wish these guys could do this without being so arrogant, it just asks for more trouble than is necessary..then again I guess it does take a special kind of person to want to be a auditor
Haven't watched this one yet. But I just wanna say I love this channel. I love the unbiased nature of how you present your videos. When the citizen is wrong, you make sure to let it be known. When an officer is wrong, you treat it the same way. Wrong is wrong. Regardless of how you feel about police or auditors of police
Lieutenant is a model officer we wish more could be this good thank you
There are. They’re just not on videos.
@@cincydooley "percentage" more in percentage *ffs people*
The fact that he hasn't trained his 🐷 is bad
You know the cops are more willing to release clips that cast them in a positive light, just like people are more likely to record a cop who is doing something shady
Hilarious how cops can't go even 5 minutes without lying.
In the same sentence he says "you're detained" then says "I never said that".
Pathetic
That’s a prejudiced statement but more power to you
@@sleepshouter5017 in what way
@@mrsauxe8704 “cops can’t go even 5 minutes without lying”
He has the preconceived notion that all cops cannot go 5 minutes without lying. So if he sees a cop, he will automatically think that without knowing who they are. Replace “cops” with “black people” and tell me you don’t see how it could be a prejudiced statement
@@sleepshouter5017 I dont agree with him 100% but I dont recall having a "Black Person Academy" where people train to be black and to do the job of a black person lmao
@@thereareantsbehindyoureyes7529 lmfao! imagine that
The auditor doesn’t even fully know his own rights. Good on this lieutenant.
There are very few citizens (including many judges and lawyers) that fully know their own rights. There's no shame in that.
He's trying though. That's better than 99 percent of the sheeple. I haven't watched very much yet, but he seems respectful as well so far at least.
@@priayief Well, many blame cops for not knowing.
@@TheBooban You can’t (shouldn’t at least, they obviously do) enforce something they don’t understand.
to be fair he’s being extremely sussy baka *and he’s definitely looking for trouble lol*
I'm not sure I've ever seen a smoother de-escalation that was so quick and easy. If he ever decided to run for office, the Lieutenant would have my vote all day, glad to see they still make them like him!
Coming out with "checking on my employees" is a bit confrontational. Better way to put it would be "Documenting the condition of the property in public trust, namely how the City Police are maintaining the vehicles entrusted to them by the taxpaying public."
If saying something so small like that aggravates cops then they shouldn’t be . Getting your feelings hurt or being yelled is gonna happen at your job . If they don’t like it and are that sensitive they shouldn’t be cops .
@@jasminebounds
Why are you expanding so much on the original statement with absolutely nothing of value? No one said anything contrary to what you said, you’re just talking to talk (prolly to sound smart, if I had to guess.)
@@Alex-vy2zc I don't even know what you're talking about cause that was a month ago when I said it. If cops are that sensitive they shouldn't be cops. And all in the comments I think some people are saying that as well. But you wanted to reply to me cause you thought you'd put me in my place . Well buddy you failed . It's early in the morning so I don't feel like telling you off and that you shouldn't be so triggered by others comments and that you should mind your business like everyone else . Go have a productive Monday and stop being such a wimp over people you don't know that could careless about you. I said what I said , go argue with ya momma !
Thats a bit wordy, but maybe something between the two. I always appreciate the auditors who are super nice and polite, over the ones who are super rude and aggressive.
@@Cman04092 not sure if you are talking to me or someone else . But if you are talking to me then refer to the comment to what i before you . I'm not about to go back and rewatch a video that I made a comment on months go . Again if you are talking to me then I'll be wordy and tell you I said what I said . Have a great weekend !
The inconsistencies of law is egregious. “Terry allows for the stop and detainment of individuals pacing back and forth, peering through windows.” On the other hand “Courts have found simply looking through windows of a vehicle, not be enough for a detention” 🤦🏽♂️
Why is he looking through windows. Does he need a psychiatrist?
@@georgegates526 instead of “why” why not? The constant of all of these videos. Is that it’s not against the law to do so. Even if he did in fact need a physiatrist. That’s not what the officers job is to determine. It’s to enforce the Constitution and then the laws they swore an oath to uphold. You’ve looked through numerous windows daily I’m certain. Though I’d be assuming, I’m sure you do not need a physiatrist.
@@ThynBlueSlym No one films and looks into cars for fun. So i can understand how this was suspicious to the officers. If someone did this to my car, I would also be suspicious and tell them to leave.
@@Oozaru85
It's not for fun, it's for reactions and TH-cam views.
Although most will try to have us believe that it's all about checking up the condition of the vehicles and tax payers money...
@@Oozaru85 you been to a car show? Thats exactly what people do
This business of "move along" was discredited by the courts long ago. Absent the commission of a crime all citizens have a right to be where they are at. The auditor was practicing a Constitutionally protected right thus he could not be considered to be committing a crime.
Links? While I don't disagree, it seems you're saying this to imply when an officer asks you to leave, and you don't, it isn't trespassing? Or is it specially if they say the phase "move along"? Would love to read into it
Is nobody gonna mention how JACKED the LT’s legs looked? Dude could leap a privacy fence in one go!
The problem I see when auditors are stopped by law enforcement for investigation, is that there really is no investigation. The cop will detain the auditor, disregard the answers to his questions, then demand he leave under the threat of arrest. The cop's mind is already made up, and if he stops to talk to you, you're guilty of something.
@@DTAGAFFA Depends on the auditor, a lot of them are straight up douche bags but some of them (like this video) are doing nothing wrong or necessarily inflammatory. Just because the cops overreact isn't the fault of the guy filming.
@@DTAGAFFA You just don't get it.
@@DTAGAFFA
They are there to see if cops respond correctly. They usually dont. The auditor doesnt force the cops fuck up..
Do you have the same complaint about bait cars, or is this another case of 'its cool when the cops do it."?
@@DTAGAFFA Finding out of your local cops will violate your rights is productive. They *should* be punished when they do things like this but they rarely are. Them being baited into it doesn't make it any more okay. That's like a car thief trying to argue that the car was just too tempting and he just had to steal it. "He was acting suspiciously despite doing nothing illegal, I had no choice but to violate his rights!"
@@DTAGAFFA They are purposefully not breaking the law, cops who don't know the law at all are the problem.
That lieutenant did a great job of coming out and getting everybody to chill. When I see interactions like this, I nearly always see 2 patterns of behavior that are constant. The conflict arises when someone is unable to concisely articulate their point to the other parties. And the conflict escalates when one or both parties make false statements of fact when arguing their case. If people were a little more educated/trained in their communication skills, most of these situations could be avoided. Unfortunately, when the person failing to properly communicate their position happens to be a cop, then the interaction can become a much bigger problem for a regular citizen due to the power dynamic. It's amazing that so many of our public servants genuinely believe that their authority/status is above that of the people they are hired to serve.
Above the constitution and the oath they took to uphold. Thats what gets me, in addition twist the law to their benefit & over use their power and authority, because the wear a badge.
I do appreciate your content. It's extremely informative and unbiased. In my opinion your channel should be considered the gold standard in reviewing audits and interactions. It seems like a few other channels have gone off into the weeds, just shy of calling for violence on anyone wearing a badge. Thank you for the work you put into this channel.
I agree with AT. I do like how you break down how an individual could avoid getting into situations to start with, so you educate both sides of the aisle, without bias or prejudice. The research into SC rulings and whether or not a judge would react one way on another, doesn't always make these situations cut and dry. thanks for taking the time to educate
I completely agree. While I really like Abiyah Israel, I feel like his channel, We The People University, is one such channel that leans too far in the direction of siding with citizens. It's one reason that I love Audit The Audit. I feel like ATA is fair to all parties.
Thanks!
The problem is the definition of "suspicious." There really needs to be something better than "suspicious" because to a cop, everything is "suspicious" because they think every citizen is a criminal. They, or anybody, can say that anything is "suspicious" and then use confirmation bias to convince everybody else that they are right. Courts need to address this. We see it all the time in these videos.
It’s literal what they teach them in cop school
The issue is a majority of the laws surrounding us are based on undefined standards called "reasonableness".
Which are routinely somehow defined to mean "whatever an officer says" and then also not that at all. Neither does our own opinion of "reasonable" seem to matter.
Largely it's a nothing-word inserted to give state officials the leeway to act as they please, and it needs to be remedied.
I don't know of a better alternative though. There's no way you can make an explicit standard to cover every possible situation, so the law kind of has to fall back on words like "reasonable suspicion."
@@eccentriastes6273
Relying on "reasonableness" is why we are where we are.
Excuse me if I don't want to be subject to some sociopath with a history of violence's version of reasonable.
@@aennaenn7468 Thanks. I was going to mention that. The ambiguity of 'suspicion' and 'reasonable' is an UNREASONABLE measure of legal authority. The words 'reasonable' and 'suspicion', are an unbounded invitation for authorities to make up legal outcomes as they go.
Sometimes I think some of these auditors do more than an audit. Some of them do like this guy did and went looking for an argument. Its my understanding that the purpose of audits is to test, and if necessary, educate the police on Civil Rights law. This guy seems to be looking for the argument in the situation. It may be hard at times when getting your Civil Rights violated, but we should always be respectful as much as the officers deserve
If there is no argument, there is no audit.
Yeah very difficult when someone is VIOLATING YOUR RIGHTS.
@@missmarya747 bro dude immediately started off by calling them his employees
I do find that a lot of these auditing channeling are very confrontational and argumentative. Like abhorrently so. I respect one’s right to audit, especially those that are supposed to serve us, but I cannot stand how they act most of the time.
Side note: not defending cops or being a boot licker, I just feel like auditors need to behave a lot more (for a lack of a better term) professionally.
there is no audit without conflict
“Just checking out how MY employees are doing,” is such a tool thing to say. This guy’s one of those guys that would call every travel or light foul during a pick-up basketball game. Even if he’s technically right, which he wasn’t in a lot of cases here, just be a decent human being, dude.
What’s “indecent” about pointing out that he has a right to evaluate the maintenance of equipment he pays for…?
@@pizzelle2 he started out being condescending. He went in there hoping for an argument.
@@phillamarre yeah it's like those pesky financial auditors coming into my business looking for what I did wrong.
Yeahhhh he really went into that situation looking for trouble
@@phillamarre There was absolutely nothing condescending about anything he said. He was extremely polite and didn’t even need to answer their questions at all. “I’m just here checking out the vehicle maintenance” isn’t condescending 😂😂
Lt Beckmer being as friendly and cordial as he was actually made me emotional. We need A LOT more cops like him.
It’s fucking insane that we get emotional when we see a government employee paid by taxes correctly doing his job.
Yet the auditor was obnoxious and antagonistic from the start! 👎😡
A friendly reminder to law enforcement officers: Whenever you see an auditor in the field, please be aware that your 'arching up', 'bullying up', or in any way bluffing your way through the encounter, going directly to the hardest degree, IS going to escalate matters. De-escalation is not cowardice or weakness -- it is the stated goal of every department, precinct and station in the country.
Also, know this about auditors: They are doing these things in order to entice you to bad police behavior. Think about that: They are walking up to an armed individual, and trying to incite and even antagonize him or her to behave badly. However much you may not like that, it shows no signs of stopping anytime soon. You are not going to intimidate them, and if you try, you are in fact giving them what they came there to provoke.
Plus, you should be able to appreciate that it serves a purpose, and one that can be beneficial to you. Why should another officer having problems, who reacts poorly in one of these encounters, be allowed to continue making your job harder? And yet, they do. That's not on the auditors, that's on that brother officer.
Be like the lieutenant in this video, encourage the behavior he exhibited, and not that of the sergeant, within your own department's ranks. See the auditors as a resource, and use them as such. The officer they uncover acting outside the lines may be the next one who would have committed an atrocity, against himself or others. Allow them to expose that officer to you, so you can take the appropriate steps to get that officer help and training, before it's too late.
I dont believe the "auditors" or anyone else should be encouraged or discouraged. Police should observe, investigate if suspicious, and if crime is not afoot...leave them alone. Not their place to encourage or discourage. I will caution auditors to please consider the impact and risk. Just because you can audit does not mean every situation should be. Your actions can occupy resources needed elsewhere or cause safety issues to yourself, police and free citizens alike. Please be thoughtful in what and how you audit.
The good auditors don't try to antagonize police. The auditors actions are totally lawful and meant to test how lawful a police departments employees will conduct themselves.
The police set up stings for drugs or prostitution or car theft. 1st amendment audits are the same thing
They don't give a fkk. They work for the corrupted politicians that allow this. Did you know that the style of policing we have today started with racists, yes policing and the style used today was used to police the slaves and blacks beyond racism of the old times. It needs to be abolished, and allow citizen create a private group of law enforcement who actually work for their own community, as governments have proven time after time that they have no good intentions at all. Police have been militarized and are being used against us because we are seen as bad and people who can't govern themselves. Pull your heads out people. The idea of other men governing our lives is insanity especially because not one man on this Earth is perfect. How can we allow imperfect men to control our lives when they don't even know what's best for us? The idea of governments in the structures that are built today are obsolete and we need to rethink how we can rebuild and structured society in such a way that people's true freedoms that born with is not violated. I would much rather have a voluntaryism system. At a more local level when it comes to communities. It comes to this land America, we all know who they stole it from. We need to make reparations by giving the land back to the native Americans, and have them be the ones that govern in a beautiful ancient way as opposed to what we see with the FED government. Trust me it's disgusting what's going on and we don't want to continue down this road.
@@Jay_Kayy Uhm.... OK.... Abolish policing entirely. Convert our system of government to voluntary anarchy. (Actually, that first one would do a pretty fair job of accomplishing the second.) 'Make reparations' to the indigenous peoples by 'giving back the land' to them, letting them 'govern in a beautiful and ancient way'. Ancient ways, of course, that included bitter, bloody wars between various tribes, because just as people are imperfect, so too their various ways of governance, even the ancient and beautiful ones.
Plus, I'm kinda thinking that a relative handful of people on reservations that even remember their peoples' 'ancient ways', may be insufficient to govern 330 million people who generate a $4 trillion annual economy. Unless we just give up on the concepts of commerce and free enterprise as well? In which case, we'd actually be inviting every other military power on the planet to come in and take possession of our resources, as we stand down our national military in favor of local chiefs commanding bands of braves. The shortcut way of saying all that being to lay down in front of China and hand everything over to them, because that is surely the logical end of this flight of fancy. And they are not well known for having a lot of sympathy for 'beautiful ancient ways'.
Maybe we can just start with better and more effective training for our law enforcement officers, and go from there....?
The initial officer could have simply offered to answer any questions and observed the Auditor as he went around the cars, as he stated in the beginning he was looking at the cars primarily looking for bald tires and other unsafe equipment. Part of the problem with police, especially now, is their penchant to immediately jump to "suspicion of a crime". They don't actually investigate.
This pre-crime nonsense was enshrined by Terry. Surely any suspicious activity should be addressed. But if there's no evidence of a crime, there is no evidence. It comes down to protecting the police. It gives them license to go on fishing expeditions and come up with excuses to detain and/or arrest people. Meanwhile real crimes are happening everywhere.
Meh this dude was acting suspicious as shit around those cop cars. Can't blame the cops for getting agitated at his presence
@@jackburton2680 you must not be familiar with 1st amendment videos. If they’re not doing anything someone would consider “suspicious” then they won’t get a police interaction. So they have to do something a bit out of the ordinary. The point is it takes 4 seconds to realize the person is doing nothing wrong in a public place, and cops should know this and act accordingly. Instead they do the opposite and always look to escalate. That’s the whole point of these videos.
I completely agree with what you say, and condemn the officers' actions (except the Lt.). Having said that, I accept that in less-than-professional people, emotions shove intellect right off the cliff. During the defund the police movement, our small-town PD was vandalized, officers were stalked in their comings and goings, even to/from work, as were clerical staff! It made staying professional quite a challenge. The Lt. in this vid, as well as 90% of our small-town officers, accepted that challenge and conquered it. The other officers need more training, and I would suggest that some anger management training be tossed in as well. Never should our rights be trampled, especially when probably with just a couple of training seminars could the officers rise to being professional. (...said the optimist...)
@@qwerty30013 Not really. All the recorder had to say, was i was looking to see how good of a condition the police cars were in. Balled tires etc. Wouldn't of been escalated if he just showed the police the bare minimum respect, and tell them what he was doing
"Hoooowever" Lol. Love these back and forths.
I love the videos where they keep arguing until a higher rank officer shows up and is like "Hey, you're good to go. Is there anything I can do for you?" No ego, no escalation. My guess is they actually understand the law and have better shit to do.
Let me get this straight, you can be detained for looking into store window for possible cause of casing the business for future breaking into to steal items, but cannot be detained for looking into vehicles for the possibility of casing the vehicle for possible future breaking in to steal items. Not saying that is what this person was doing by any means.
Considering you can see inside of a vehicle window from hundreds of feet away, while most store windows you'd need to get fairly close in order yo see anything inside of the store, plus as stated they were consistently pacing back and forth peering in while talking to one another definitely sounds suspicious. Looking into car windows, depends. If you're right up next to the car, probably, but the law is interpreted by the judge of the case
Looks like when someone is like Delgado is working on her "Guilty until proven Innocent approach" and constantly Escalating other Officers and encouraging them, Like a B squad cheerleader who does ANYTHING to get noticed by the Players.
Did you miss the part where the two guys in _Terry_ were not detained _just_ because they were looking into store windows?
Honestly, this is the third comment in this vein that I've seen in this comment section, and I just wonder if you people watched the same video I did. ATA outlined all this stuff that people are missing.
Man i have learned so much from watching these videos, crazy when you actually see it broken down this well to see all the little things you cant and can do.
I was seriously considering mentioning that an auditor should go around the Burlington NC Police Department in some way or at least I was thinking that last night and then I came across this video tonight. That’s my hometown and I actually recognize at least one of those officers. It’s really cool to see that someone actually did go around my hometown though. And thank you for sure ATA for sharing this.
It's amazing how much of this could have been avoided by simply watching the person filming, or a short confrontation for an explanation and then observation.
That's implies the belief the dude would give an explanation. He is obviously trying to instigate some bs
@@Dr.Spatula He immediately explained what he was doing when the first officer walked up.
@@courtneyr6645 "checking on my employees." Is that the bullshit explanation you're referring to?
So here's the flip-side. Taking the time to observe someone filming means taking that officer from whatever duties they were performing, to "babysit" an activity which generally has minimal probative value, except as a provocation to enforcement response. And while it's just one instance of filming, and maybe half an hour at best that the officer would be observing the activity, that could start add up if and when more 1AA events occur.
And in this case, observation would be necessary. The auditor is walking around police vehicles, and while we know his intentions aren't harmful in any way, the officers don't know that. Even filming, this individual could be a threat for any number of potential ways to sabotage vehicles and put officer safety at risk. I'm not saying that gives them the right to detain him, ask him questions about what he's doing, or anything other than observing his actions. I'm just saying that it does put a question of officer safety on the table. Of course, that begs the question of why official vehicles are parked in a place immediately accessible to the general public, something that hopefully the auditor identifies to people that can take action to correct it.
Thank you relating the facts in a reasoned, methodical fashion.
Thank you also for withholding your opinions until the end, explaining how you came your conclusions, and sharing them.
Now that's an LT we all love. Kudos to this LT for standing up for this citizen. ❤
You know I find it mind blowing how cops don’t know an auditors MO at this point. If I were in his shoes I’d be like understandable have a nice day. Maybe just stick around and observe for a bit if it felt like something fishy was going on.
I agree. You HAVE to assume that significant numbers of police have seen these videos, yet some keep falling for it time and time again. If someone is around a police station with a camera, its a safe bet he's done his homework and any attempt at intimidation or shenanigans in response will make you famous for ALL the wrong reasons.
The auditor is on security cameras, and on your bodycam. It will save you time, energy, and public embarrassment if you just sat there and observed the auditor doing what they do until they simply moved on. It seems their egos prevent some of them from doing things the easy way vs the hard way.
That is because, while most of the interactions we see are from auditors, they are a minuscule percentage of encounters. For every footage you see, there is probably upwards of a hundred incidents of vandalism or attempted vandalism.
most auditors MO is to be a a hole and find an altercation b.c thats what most are actually trying to do.its annoying
@@timar6868 If they don’t antagonize the officers they might not make an irrational decision, then they can’t score the bag.
The counter point I have to justify their actions is: its also a kind of litmus test for officer conduct when dealing with uncooperative citizens, we have rights and they’re not allowed to take them just because they don’t like us.
If they violate their rights for doing things that are within the law, what’s to say they haven’t done it before.
@@timar6868 Annoying or antagonizing officers without otherwise breaking the law is within the first amendment. That may not be my cup of tea or yours, but if the trained professionals don't like behavior that may be admittedly annoying but is otherwise protected under the first amendment, then they can find another career. We've seen enough behavior from officers assaulting or even killing people for FAR less than people exercising their constitutional rights. Maybe if cops would behave themselves, know the laws, and conduct themselves as professionals, it wouldn't be so easy for auditors to get them to fall for the same tricks.
Until corrupt cops are removed and not allowed to re join in other locations, plus every “good” cop is complacent in that corruption until then
There are no good cops. In order for a cop to be a good cop, that cop needs to get rid of the bad cops.
@Obi Wan "dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power, typically involving bribery."
Couple years ago, I thought you guys are just trouble makers. But now, I can see you guys are doing great work by bringing transparency and keeping bad cops in check. Thanks a lot.
Never side with the cops or hold them as heroes for doing their paid jobs. Take back the qualified immunity as well. I side with all lawful conducts. The constitution trumps all of their unconstitutional fake laws.
I thought the same thing, now they’re our unsung heroes
Right
Some are doing a good job. Some try & create disturbance for their media site
Nah, the majority are assholes. Very few actually do anything to keep cops in check. Most auditors make it worse and cause cops to be highly confrontational. I hate both equally.
They're employees of a collective of which you're a tiny part of .
They're not your employees.
You used the word "of" twice? I'm going to have to give that sentence a B-. Though your sentence is well intentioned and accurate, it is both inappropriate to end a sentence with a preposition, and your use of the word "of" at the end was absolutely redundant.
"They're employees of a collective of which you're a tiny part." See how that works?
They actually _are._
They're *public servants,* I'm the public.
I mean, good on keeping the pd within their limits. Applaud it! But why is it that almost every single 'auditor' I see on TH-cam or other social media sight have some sort of complex in the way they speak. Doing good work with the worst mindset at the forefront
What do you mean? I feel like they all just recap the video and state laws.
@@Grabient No, not Audit the Audit. I mean the main protagonist/antagonist of the videos wouldn't have been in their events on most occasions if they just lived their lives. They also have an attitude when confronting others like their ego defines who they are as human beings. I love people who cover these events and explain everything, just not the people in the videos.
@@hunterhavard8467 yeah me too but I wouldn't like some guy looking into my car just because I parked it in a public parking lot.
I think the fact that they have adopted the title of 'auditor' to make their actions sound official, as opposed to simply calling themselves members of the press or a reporter is another symptom of the same issue. When discussing government-controlled property and government employees, you can tell when some of the 'auditor' individuals use personal possession language such as "My Employees" and "My Building", disregarding that the government employees would be 'self-employed' and would have equal ownership of the property under the same theory of ownership via taxation.
@@hunterhavard8467 Agreed, I mean, what business did he have filming the cars? Dude could've been home, doing something constructive or you know? Minding his own business, but I feel that a large amount of these "Auditors" are just looking to start shit. The officers told him he could film from the sidewalk all he wants, seems reasonable to me.
Every commanding officer should be like this LT. Open minded and quick to do the right thing regardless of if it makes another officer look bad or goes against the officers wishes. And he did it in a way that allowed him to educate all 3 officers without degrading the SGT. Kudos
This is the second video I've seen where the auditor is setting a bad precedent. He was not ensuring that 'his employees had good tires on their vehicles'. He was trying to provoke the police. "Tires are mostly in good shape......good tires." No, sorry. This guy is engaging in a ruse while he awaits police engagement. Maybe the auditor thinks it's exciting. Maybe he thinks it's a good idea to create an opportunity for law enforcement to perform under. This contrivance, however, is simply not an ethical way to do so.
It is reasonable for law enforcement to feel that their safety is being put at risk by people lurking around their vehicles. Not lurking? Picture yourself up in a window of that building, peering out and seeing somebody walking around each police vehicle taping. Picture yourself in your kitchen seeing somebody walking around your own house, your own vehicle doing so. Would you find it suspicious? Would you be concerned?
If I walked on to a jobsite where I work and people were walking around our scissor and boom lifts, our cranes, I would have to suggest they all be inspected for safety as a result. An individual who intends to damage said vehicles could easily do it under the guise of simply inspecting them on video. The tools needed to tamper with brake lines, hydraulics, etc easily fit in a pocket or down a pant leg, as anybody familiar would attest.
It is reasonable, in light of cases where police vehicles have been tampered with (putting police and the public at risk), for them to regard individuals in this situation as suspicious. Due to the serious injury or death that can result from damaged vehicle systems this is not a trifling matter.
Of all the methods we can utilize to build a mutually beneficial relationship between Police Officers and the law abiding public, I truly hope this is no longer one of them. We are violating their right to feel safe and I think any one of us would be ill at ease in their situation to say the least. And for good reason.
Big difference between public property and private property. Your place of business is private property.
We need both kinds of auditors. Police need to be trained to deal with upset individuals and respect their rights just as equally as calm rational individuals. Proper de-escalation training needs to be audited as well. In fact it's sometimes more important. It's easy for an officer to interact with respectful individuals, but far more important that they also can properly conduct themselves with upset or anygry citizens as well.
That is the point! The audit was on the cops behavior towards his actions! Not on the vehicles! He wanted to see if they would escalate or deescalate, and to see if they were honest!
@@jamesweaver1738 That's easy to say, less easy to defend I'd wager. Police have extraordinary authority and as such, extraordinary scrutiny is a must. My only contention is that this mascarade poses a real threat.
The auditor certainly intends no harm but, if we look at sophisticated criminals we see the adoption of mundane practices to accomplish terrible goals. Posing as an auditor will be a criminal avenue we should be ready for, mark my words.
@@jamesweaver1738 Furthermore, James, while there are differences between public and private property, the brake lines are the same, the tools needed are the same, the intention to cause harm is the same.
I love your channel and the way you break down the interactions of all parties. Very informative and educational. Thanks for all the time you spend doing this!
Love how you quote specific laws or specific cases in regards to the different locations, states or whatever you call them in America, to make sense in an unbiased and logical way the interaction between the auditors and police.
Its easiest if you think of each state as its own mini country, with one big govt uniting all of them. "United States" as the name implies. Each state also has its own elected officials, its own cops, ect.
The US has "State" governments and a "Federal" government. Each state has its own laws, then there are also federal laws that are across all states (in theory). I say in theory because sometimes the state law doesn't agree with federal law, Its actually a whole thing with drug legalization at the moment. With State law enforcement not enforcing some federal laws that their state disagrees with. (and yeah there is federal law enforcement too, and sometimes they don't get along, sometimes they even arrest eachother)
Anyway all of this to say the channel uses lots of rulings from lots of states because what is legal in one part of the country isn't always legal in another. Our system is complicated.
@@Link2edition thanks for the explanation, it makes sense how you've explained it, but makes no sense why it's like that, especially like you say when state and federal laws clash.
I'm from the UK, the law in England and Wales is the same no matter what county you are in, Scotland has slightly different legal system, but I think it's close enough, no idea about Northern Ireland though lol, it really keeps things simple when you travel around the country, that said you can probably travel the entire length of the UK in less than 14 hours, so would be crazy if every county had different laws.
@@legion162 It would be in a place as small as the UK for sure. But the United states is massive, with several individual states being larger than the entire UK on their own. (Apparently the UK is about the size of Oregon, a state famous for only recently legalizing pumping your own fuel)
In the US it lets you choose a place to live with laws that suit your tastes without ever leaving the country. For instance I have avoided moving because I like guns and cars, and regulations on both are really lax in my state, but regulations on drugs and alcohol are pretty strict compared to others. I live in a state slightly larger than England for context, so it only really comes up if I am on a long road trip. I the last time I took a 14 hour trip the only law I had to adjust to was stowing my weapon in my vehicle as I passed through some states, when it would be on my hip otherwise.
Another one that comes to mind, we had a guy get arrested in my state for carrying drugs that he was prescribed in another state, because they were illegal in this one. So stupid stuff can indeed happen.
Edit: Pardon my wall of text, I actually lived in London for a year, so I find conversation about the differences in the legal systems interesting.
@@Link2edition I live in Wales, apparently it's the same size as a Walmart car park 😂🤣😂🤣
@@legion162 Lmao, now I have to look this up.
Plot twist Mr Press found out the tires are worn and increased the police maintenance budget so the officers have safe vehicles to drive.
So why didn't he say what he was doing??
@@georgegates526 he doesn’t have to
I'm not a cop, nor do I know a cop, but it's people like this that make me worry about dozens of people getting mowed down by a van because they can't get laid and are mad at everyone for it
All law enforcement officers should watch these kind of videos. Everyone would be better off.
I love how its always and everytime "i am the supervisor" No you are not. For these two yes but since you are already there, obviously he meant your boss.
Love seeing a professional police officer demonstrate his profession for his subordinates like the Lieutenant did in this video. Well done.
In my view, we have lost our orientation to conducting ourselves as professionals in our careers.
Overview. Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental health condition in which these sick individuals calling themselves frauditors have an unreasonably high sense of their own importance. They need and seek too much attention and want people to admire them. People with this disorder lack the ability to understand or care about the feelings of others.
I'm not really an ACAB type person, nor am I exactly a thin blue line type either. I am always disgusted when police overstep their authority and put innocent civilians in ahrms way, or subject them to unlawful actions. I do however appreciate seeing how you rate and commend officers who do a good job. It helps everything not be so bleak.
I ask again on this channel, how on earth does a sergeant, indeed a supervisor, gets a C when not even understanding basic law.
He didn’t shoot him, so that’s a plus for American police.
@@stephenandrezeywskijr9899 there's plenty of government websites where they could look it right up on there phone in an instant. Lol I don't think even lawyer's r using law libraries much these days. There should be a website designed specifically for cops to do such if there isn't already and it updates at least twice a day so u get the most up to date laws. Of course they wouldn't like that because there goes one of their biggest excuses they use all the time right there. No more plausible deniability if it was right at their finger tips the whole time. No more of this BS "well I really thought that was the law" and that's all it takes to get out of trouble.
The sergeant showed up believing that he was preparing to commit a crime because the female officer exaggerated the circumstances. The male officer acted without bias when he investigated it himself
@@Huckle15 🤣🤣🤣
The auditor who also fundamentally misunderstood something got a higher grade… y’all have a weird hate boner going on. Like it’s one thing to have a preconceived bias it’s another thing to have it drip from every word you spew.
“Just checking on my employees” lmfaooo loved that
This was a good interaction bc overall everyone remained courteous and the Lt. Was super professional and shows why he is the Lt. We need more “good cops” videos bc good cops are being outshined
They were politely *illegally detaining* him
Once upon a time; cops used to do actual police work, ie. observe, document, and then approach. Nowadays; it's confront, escalate, and extort right off.
When was that?
I really like the examples from court cases that describe what warrants/does NOT warrant a detention. Would love to see an extensive list of these.
Imagine not being able to record public property 🤣
One day you never know
@@virginiahaas5126 As a swede I find it quite hard to se it happening but in the US it might not be that way 🤒
I love it when Auditors know exactly what they’re doing, and hate it when they don’t!
Now that’s the way to handle and Deescalate a situation 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼and keep a cool head around people and not arrest and harm people.. thank you 🙏🏽 officers
I would have expected the Sargeant to know the law better. He detained so quickly then denied it even though it was on film.
"Just checking on my employees..." A professional should not let that line affect their judgment, but god that is condescending.
Don't the police serve the public?
Well I guess they shouldn't serve the citizens and get payed from the citizens tax money
@@Whydoesthissitesuck of course they do, that doesn't mean it isn't condescending. Hell, condescension implies looking down from a superior position, kinda like a citizen calling a cop their employee, it's very rude to just off the bat call them that even if technically true.
@@daltonevans3412 The public are superior to the police.
As soon as they sign on the dotted line, they become property of the state.
@@boztec7187 literally said nothing to the contrary.
Could you do a deep dive into RAS and justified detainment? Seems like an issue that comes up in every audit video
Yeah that would be great
Liking to bump up