US argument at ICJ was nuanced but contemptuous and absurd: Marwan Bishara
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- The US has asked the UN's top court not to order Israel's immediate withdrawal from occupied Palestinian territories.
Its legal representative made the comments at the International Court of Justice on the third day of a hearing examining the impact Israel's occupation.
According to Marwan Bishara, Al Jazeera’s senior political analyst, the US demands that the ICJ subject international law to its failed peace process instead of subjugating its diplomacy to the ICJ ruling. The US argues that Israel should not be obligated to immediately withdraw from the occupied land, albeit 56 years too late!
The United States defended Israel in a very clever way. Its arguments were sober and sophisticated, but this doesn’t make them any less dishonest.
The overall message of the American representative is that the court should be at the service of the American and Israeli negotiation strategy - not that the American and Israeli negotiation strategy should abide by the court’s ruling.
But a World Court cannot be at the disposal of the US. It is otherwise unclear why a potential ruling by the court that the occupation is illegal would be a burden on the negotiations.
On the matter of Israel’s security, who defines what that means? Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu defines security as Israel taking control of the territory from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, which would mean accepting the acquisition of territory by force.
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I don't think the US has any credibility.
None Nada zero Zilch...as little as Isreal and all the Zionazis of the world has..
Has never had. Just military might, nothing else.
Agree, US government is SICK SICK SICK, supporting Israel being devil
@arabakoleman1132 so true!
US imperialism is causing global unrest and wars.
The US has to defend this illegal occupation as they have funded, armed and diplomatically protected the illegal occupation.
They have no shame. They won't bother worrying about it and will defend it anyway with some self-righteousness that "We're America so we're ALWAYS right no matter what!!!".
The Ottoman Empire claiming Jerusalem for Islam was illegal.
Biden did say "our military operation in Rafah ..."
Well that's what the USA was founded on, not a shock.
@@misscarla1178their audacity knows no bounds
Free palestine, shame on the US
agree !
I agree, and I am an American.
hey dude don't say US either say USA or America.
@@punturaWhy U.S .Us us
@@punturaI say us and I'm a United States American and I I vote in my vote counts and the United States and people like you have blood on their hands
Lasting peace on US terms would be a mockery of everything the UN stand for. The US have been disingenuous throughout the Israeli assault on Gaza.
The USA has been disingenuous since 1967
They’ve all been disingenuous from day one.
...The Creator has opened wide heaven’s gate on the eve of the great disaster
"Singing Aloud for You
I sing aloud for you
So you will not be lost amid danger
I awaken your memory from long ago
So you will see hope for life
Heaven, Earth, and Gods are made by the Creator
Who commanded Gods to make humans on earth
When lives dropped down, they became human
Eliminating sin, they’ll return to heaven
What I am singing is the truth
The Creator has opened wide heaven’s gate on the eve of the great disaster
October 15, 2014"
Master Li Hongzhi (Hong Yin IV, from Falun Dafa teachings)
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Nothing to say about Hamas's unprovoked assault on Israel? Nothing to say about the fact that without that evil massacre, Gaza would today be at peace. Nothing to say about the fact that Hamas is an openly Fascist terror group that want to bring about Holocaust 2 in Israel. You people make me sick. You hide your basic Judeophobia behind a pretence of outrage about the assault on Gaza when you know very well why that tragedy is playing out and that it's Hamas who hide behind women and children that caused it.
Devote U S out of the UN.
There will be shortage of funding, but global justice will be in a better place.
Yes yeeess
Every western power which has a history of colonialism must be resign from UN. They are all in the same bucket of evil.
thousands in the streets suffering from extreme cold, rain, hunger, and discomfort, and under constant bombardment, to die?
The war of annihilation of this people must be stopped because it is humanity and respect for international law, and the trial of Netanyahu, the killer of innocents and children, and the massacres that continue under diplomatic and military support
Indeed the US needs to learn that they are not the "be all, end all" Nation. We need to stop shoving so called Super Power status on world policy. Just like we don't want Russia or China, the other so called Super Powers, to shove their policies down our throats. At this point, all 3 are Bully Leaders..
The UN is a place where the Member Nations are suppose to work in cooperation to resolve and solve World problems and issues.
Case in point the Oil Wealthy Nations and Coal producing Nations should not be able to stop the rest of the World's Nation from taking steps to lessen "climate change" and holding Nations accountable for their practices that destroys our atmosphere.
And the 3 Bully Nations, the US, Russia and China should not be able to continue threatening the People of the World with annihilation with their Military War Machines.
The US, the Biden Administration, most grievously with this Palestine/Israel Crisis, has enabled and supported the Israeli Regime under Netanyahu to commit massive and horrendous War Crimes with little regard for holding Israel responsible.
The UN is a vital Governing Body for our World and it's Resolutions need to be upheld by the Member Nations. And the Member Nations need to hold other Nations, like Israel, Russia, the US, the UK and Germany accountable for their disrespect and disregard for International Law and Peace Making Accords.
You are a moron. The US invented the UN
Boycott US movies, fast food chains, etc. The US is nauseating...
Why not? Is it a matter of life and death?
Why are you boycotting something you were too poor to afford 😂
......TH-cam, all social media and internet!
@@JeromeVanDerMeulen internet is a 'mutual' type of thing, but would've been perfectly ok without it too, provided not others utilized it, especially for 'malice'..
It certainly will help our health and brothers and sisters of humanity
God bless Palestine
yes !
It's time to reform UN urgently. US veto power and isrelis ridiculous impunity must be stripped off. Get better leaders to manage UN.
With immediate effect
Members states should expel America from the UN
Like all the arab countries that do nothing for their Palestinians brother?
@@l_ifeefi_l1998They will fall in time, but not while America is this powerful
@@l_ifeefi_l1998Either America must lose power or another power should deal with the arabs in a way or time America won't interfere
It’s been 56 years now since the USA has been saying that it’s working on the 2 state solution and wants the world believe it’ll be different this time around.
They have been stringing the Palistinians along,like Trumps Healthplan and Taxes which was audited for the last 7years
Big Hypocrisy as usual. When words come from the mouth of Satan, you know what it is in reality.
If the US was sincere, they would have drawn out a map already and negotiated some sort of plan that both could have their own nations.
Its just US talk. They never mean it
They are the biggest lying murderers!
I care about Palestinian security needs. Israel has no right to security while it is the occupier.
It, by definition, cannot have any security while it is engaged in occupation. That's just how occupation works
Real security and real peace come from justice, respect, equity and humanity for all. No walls of shame and oppression can
@@halofreak1990 Yeah, I’m not a lawyer, but it didn’t take much effort to draw this conclusion from the law as written (then confirm it with opinions of legal experts).
If I can do that, why can’t media organisations and national governments? We know the answer..
@@myrtillesm3532 True. No justice, no peace isn’t just a demand. It’s the human condition.
For those who never saw the true colors of the US, Can now see it!!!!!
The last stand of the colonialist project. A desperate attempt at covering up their genocidal tendencies.
Israel is the last colonial western outpost, it serves as nothing but a breeding ground for western powers to expand their so called “democracy” on to the wider region of middle east. The whole of middle east started to deteriorate in terms of political stability ever since modern israel was created back in 1948. Look at how lebanon, syria, yemen, libya, Afghanistan, iran were like prior to the formation of israel, everything got destroyed. Satanyahu himself proudly advised the US senate back in 2002 that it is imperative that US invades iraq, libya and iran and the means to destabilise it. Its all planned, from the very beginning. The idea of zionism itself was created by an aethiest, it has nothing to do with judaism, the entire terrorist nation called israel serves only as a western outpost and nothing else.
Of 57 OIC states, most are failed Islamist Colonial Dictatorships.
Only 1 ME state offers Muslim citizens real democratic expression - Israel.
Must be hard for you having been brought up in a world of lies - watch Israel toast Hamas( with full Western, Indian and even Arab support)
🎉
True Genocide is characteristic of Muslim/Arab leaders.
Not tendencies , they are engaged in a continous genocide since 1947.
@@fightback397 The only ' continuous genocide ' in history where the population expands exponentially 😆
The UN needs to be reformed and made up ONLY of countries willing to comply with the law, and UN mandates.
Just remove the Security Council veto.
@@halofreak1990if they democratize the UN, they lose all their exploitation money and have to play fair, at which point their incompetence becomes apparent to all. They’ll kill more than a few million people to prevent that outcome.
The only countries willing to comply with UN nonsense are powerless 💩holes
Take away the veto and things will be fairer.
Totally agree 👍
Remove the dollar from international trading.!!
Is on is called,de-dolarization
Its already started, de-dollarization is becoming popular
Is coming
And replace with wat? Lolol childish
@l_ifeefi_l1998, replace the Dollar with what? Ask the Russia 😉
Hitler and Netanyahu is shame
That's why they like each other so much..
both are NA-tional ZI-onist
google image
The Haavara Agreement
look for the commemorative coin that was minted
'at least', hitler was from nearby to germany..
Looks like you need educating. Please read "Tell the Truth and Shame the Devil" by Gerard Menuhin
Why the concern for Israel's security? Why would you be concerned about the security of a state involved in a genocide? What about the security of the Palestinians? Why are the Palestinians considered less important than the Israelis? Why are the Palestinians allowed to live in a concentration camp, their food, water, electricity and fuel controlled by Israel? Why are the Palestinians murdered with impunity, and their land stolen, and Western nations defend these actions?
western nation is nothing but the devil.
As the late great Edward Said stated many years ago, never has there been a demand that an occupied people guarantee the security of their occupier, expect for the case of Palestinians.
I can't think of any other reason anymore other than that they are blatantly Islamaphobic. I can't see it any other way anymore. There are no more excuses left.
👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 Palestinians urgently need protection. ♥️ 🍉
Why can we not all just agree that Israel should return within its 1967 borders and allow the Palestinians to creat their owns state without conditions?
Yes! I don't know why this isn't an option, its the only common sense outcome
agree 100 %
Israel should return before 1948 borders
Because Israel doesnt want it and its backed by the richest families in the world. This war really is a war of money against justice.
@@nuclearnadal8850 yes please :D lets make a dna check. Who belongs there more ;) israel would be empty if a dna test would decide whos gonna stay there and whos gonna have to leave for europe 😅 but if they go back to europe, im certain that history would repeat itself in a few years ;) if you know what I mean... europe was never a big friend of our lovely and kind juuuuus 😂 (sarcasm off)
🇺🇸CRIMINAL DEFENDS 🇮🇱CRIMINAL IN INTERNATIONAL COURT !!!
Is the enabler, financier and armourer of a genocide allowed to defend the accused.
Defending the accused is a valid thing, not having that option would destroy the concept of justice. Their arguments were bad, that is all.
@@jicalvob Not when it is the same crime.
The US is co accused. Agree. Ditto UK, Germany.
Netenyahu is a murderous villain how he sleeps at night without seeing the murdered & traumatised chidren his Israeli 'defence' force have killed in Gaza is beyond me
Seems those images of torture, murder & theft are what he proudly he counts to sleep instead of sheep. Oh yeah, they kill Palestinians sheep too!?
Indeed, how does this despicable person sleep at all!!! is he really comfortable in trying to secure Israel on the blood and bodies of all those women and children??
As a US citizen, I ask the international community to see the difference between American people and the US government. Whatever preconceived notions you have of the American people, they are basically good and down to earth folks who are willing to stand up against the indiscriminate massacre of women and children. The US government on the other hand has its own agenda in the interests of money and global power.
Unfortunately most government officials ( senate, congress and governors ) are pro-israelis and fully and unconditionally support the genocide of Palestinians. I have taken note of your comment and appreciate it.
Same thing with uk, the uk government is full of 💩 but the people are good
I could not agree more with @kylewit924.
As an American citizen I 100% agree with you
You are part of the same government, you probably live on where the indians were massacred, if you care so much about being down to earth folks and support palestine so much then abandon your homes and give back the land to the indians.
Freedom, equality,justice, land and sovereignty for Palestinians and illegally oppressed occupied Palestine 🇵🇸 😢❤
Not after what you did on 7th October. No state!
@@bloom4807Ah yes, the day human history began.
Justice for Palestine. 🇵🇸
Will you ever come to understand that October 7th is a consequence of despair and dire violence that lasted way too long. Pampered iisrealis cannot understand what oppression their forefathers realy suffered they just use it to oppress
May ALLAH SWT bless our brother Marwan Bashar ameen
Why Marwan does not talk about cowards arabs&kings leaders?
Has nothing to do with Allah..God....stop using your émotions...its a political issue...nothing to do with Allah..god...unthinkable...
A christian is your brother are you okay in the head.
@@user-do7bt6eh2o why are you spreading hate?
Is it that you don't understand the message or you are justing playing around. He prayed for someone and it became putting God in politics.
Fiji has many American military bases on its main Island, Viti Levu, and is probably getting paid by the US to host these military bases and to defend it in court.
US military has surrounded Iran with over 20 military bases/missile sites. There are over 800 US military bases around the world. The US government is the head of the snake
I am from Fiji and no we have no military bases here. The US does not give much aid to Fiji either. What we do have is a fundemantalist christain segment in our country who have no idea what christianity really is and some of them are part of our government. Thats why these idiots have done this. They get an erection everytime they think of Israel
Similar to the disgusting rational given by Thomas-Greenfield to justify her latest veto of a ceasefire resolution.
Biden uses a black women to do his dirty work, just like he chose Kamala Harris as his VP who has no real significance in policies. Those women do not represent brown and black women, they are being used a tokens
To be fair this lady really doesn't have any thoughts of her own, she's just a physical representative mouthing off on behalf of the twisted rationale and arguments of US policymakers.
Thomas came straight out of planet of the apes movie.shes pure evil
Whattt? Please don't insult the intelligence of the inhabitants of the above mentioned planet. :))@@user-mv7to5ef6t
This GREENFIELD US woman UN Ambassador should never approach or look anywhere a mirror is. She might scare herself when she sees her horns.
Marwan is the best analyst we have so far... May God bless him and protect him from evil doers...
He is a christian, stop with your emotions.
@@tigerdude2727so does Christians not have a God,their are Christians fighting against IDF in Gaza!!!
Ameen
@@tigerdude2727 Christian, so what? There's only one God who will bless him and protect him... lol And YOU stop with your non sense...
@@tigerdude2727what do you know about christianity,have studied translarion of quran.the one who is on right path andcis a good human is liked by Allah or what some call God.
Palestinians have the right to resist occupation
Free Palestine's 💚✌️🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
The security for Palastinians is the issue not Israel .
Israel is the occupier and is a apartheid state.
If they can't accept to live with Palastinians, then they should go to America for they security.
Leave the land of Palastine.
they should go to eurasia..
People keep speaking as if there can be no two State solution, because Israel has changed the argument for it by building settlements on the ground. The question is why should the illegal theft of land by Israel be accepted as a done deal just because as a Colonalist power they want to keep their ill gotten land? This type of behavior was rendered as unacceptable once International law was established, it falls on Israel to dismantle those settlements and absorb those settlers within their own borders so that a contiguous Palestinian State can be established. If Israel truly wishes to live in peace, that should be the price they're forced to pay.
I know, something I don't understand. If I steal something I don't get to keep it when caught. I would have to give it back...so settlers..give back what you have stolen and Israel rebuild the houses you destroyed. Pay compensation for the gardens and olive trees you destroyed. Time for consequences of your disgusting illegal behaviour/occupation.
@@YvonneKennedy-lu2uc u r so naive. Who holds power get to have the say. Such simple concept also dunno?
@@l_ifeefi_l1998Except Israel holds very little power. If it weren't for the US protecting them, Israel would've had to acquiesce or face total isolation at best, military intervention at worst.
@@l_ifeefi_l1998 just following the UN charter shows your position to be wrong
First time to see a thief and his accomplice dictate the terms.
talk talk n talk .. people is dying man....
The USA should change their flag to the Israeli flag and vice versa
u.s we all expected but What shameful act by fiji government!
How much was Fiji payed to support Israel?????
Horrific! AIPAC the incarnation of Satan!
Their whole economy is dependent on USA.
Few billions and some Hollywood stars for their leaders.
It’s plain for anyone one to see who and what America is.
The masters of planet Earth?
Corrupt
A rich powerful country.
A disgrace.
Terrorist country is United States of🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🇸🇻……zionist BS.👿
So humiliated to be American
A normal American would be skeptical about Al Jazeera . I have to say it's been by far the best coverage. The most honest.
They don't need to embellish ... The facts and situation are totally obvious and suffice.
True!🇺🇸
I have friends who watch Arabic Al Jazeera, and you will be shocked at what you see on there going on in gaza. They translate it to me . But if you see what they show, it is sad and makes me angry on why the media is lying to us and not showing the truth. The idf even raped 13 year old children. I mean, put our shoes in their place .How would we react, and would we want other countries to stand up for us or let them stay silent. And I have seen where the hostages are laughing and playing games and being taken good care of by humas and shaking hands with them while being released . Of course, they do not show us that.
Please spread the word to others to read and watch Al Jazeera.
Thanks Marwan!
It beggars belief that some of our politicians believe they deserve our vote!
Free illegally oppressed occupied Palestine 🇵🇸 😢❤
America is just determined to be on the wrong side of human decency
so 'badass', 'can't touch us'..
Human Decency? Americans? what a joke.
Boycott israel and alliance
Yes.. keep continuing..👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Then stop using TH-cam and internet!
@lillywhitelillith if they stop using petrol then I will
They don't need your petrol, fool..@@user-ru3vc5nn8u
@@JeromeVanDerMeulen we will do whatever we want, we don't need your advice on products..
Thank you Sir Marwan for your valuable insights.
Nuremberg tribunals for my government , i am not allowed to be critical of it's colony .
"The new discoveries of oil and natural gas in the Levant Basin, amounting to 122 trillion cubic feet of natural gas at a net value of $453 billion (in 2017 prices) and 1.7 billion barrels of recoverable oil at a net value of about $71 billion, offer an opportunity to distribute and share a total of about $524 billion among the different parties, in addition to the many intangible but substantive advantages of energy security and cooperation among long-time belligerents. They can also potentially be a source of additional conflict and violence if individual parties exploit these resources without due regard for the fair share of others. What could be a source of wealth and opportunities could prove disastrous if this common resource is exploited individually and exclusively, without due regard for international law and norms."
United Nations (UNCTAD) Publication.
US position so dishonest.
Always was as a coloniser.
Marwan Bishara is top level.
US was able to round up one country ,Fiji, to be it's voice at ICJ
The clever, dubious, absurd antics of US at ICJ ..
Our money supports Fiji's economy,so yeah, their vote bought n paid for...
The rest of the world have seen what happening now
Clear and perfect argument.
As expected....USA did exactly the same to the Indigenous people and took over their land. Very sad
Explain
@@realpolitics527 please Google how Europeans moved from Ireland to take over the USA.
@@namagembe67 no, not you. I was talking to the OG commentor.
@@realpolitics527 ok
Mr. Bishara's comments are so spot on. He is so clear, factual as to the hipocracy of the U.S. Great reporting.
Wow....an embarrassing US presentation! Total nonsense and grasping at the straws!
They 🇺🇸🇮🇱 are finished..Their downfall has already been initiated
And a self inflicted downfall at that!!!
Any mature, responsible real leaders would stop the crime and find healthy solutiom to resolve a conflict. No retaliation can lead to peace. Big brother is insane
Is the US really normal?
No. We are ruled by the rich donors.
Can't be, just lunatics
Shameful USA.
How can we be so on the wrong side of history...
By their fruits you will recognize them
The UN needs reformation!
Accomplices to a crime will always defend the criminals.
Need to reform UN urgently.
United Snakes cant be serious. This is the dumbest Thing i ever heard
United Snakes of Annihilation will be doomed.
We are a superpower..so we do as we please!!
Thank you for this great report! Free Palestine! ❤❤❤
I pray for the voice of Palestine to be heard seen and FELT 💔🙏🙏❤️💚🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸💝
Fact : The current ICJ President Nawaf Salam was a fierce critic of Israel in the Past and the current ICJ Vice President Julia Sebutinde voted against South Africa genocide case on all grounds, more than the Israeli Judge Barak.
America....What about the security needs of the Palestinian people!!!❤ 🇵🇸
there is at the very top, in control of all bodies, an entity which cannot be over-ruled. These fund and lobby all bodies.
Us needs counseling of humanity
Thank you Mr Marwan for your insights. Much apreciated
Qui va croire a cette justice a part les faibles d'esprit
Time to support humanitarian concerns and human rights for all!
I believe that two things need to be done on order to resuscitate the UN. 1. Eliminate the veto vote at the UNSC. 2. Any nation that refuses to abide by international laws, and that includes the USA, and that refuses to implement UNSC resolutions, and that includes the USA, should lose their UN membership.
Remove the UN from New York and place it in the Dominican Republic or Venezuela. Change the ICJ court to Russia and all other UN agencies to Africa and South East Asia. Far too long the West has been bankrolling the agencies with bribery and nepotism.
The US is a joke of jokes
Remember they crucified and innocent and freed a criminal.
Story keep repeating itself.
Gangsters at the start can't be an angel at the arrival .
Is US totally in the hands of AIPAC or do they choose by themselves?
AIPAC is infact a domestic organization run and funded by Americans.
Kick out USA fron UN counsel
Just pure evil.
Politicians do not represent the will of its citizens (At least here in the Western World).
It's the same all over the world. This is an Indian speaking
RABBIM FILISTIN HALKINA SONSUZ ZAFER NASIP ETSIN 🤲🤲🤲🤲🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
Thanks US
Your US tax dollars at work ladies and gentlemen. While your kids get a substandard education, the streets are filled with homeless people, and you can't afford your groceries ..but hey at least we can fund a proxy war that has ZERO to do with us, isn't our problem, and isn't our conflict. That extra money they just got from congress is of course on top of the 10 mil we already give them DAILY. We give them more money then any other country on the planet. Have for decades. Remember that the next time you drive on a busted up street or pay 4$ a gallon at the pump and wonder what it is congress does with all that money we give them.
The UN needs to be reformed and made up ONLY of countries with democracy index at least 7.
Usa is defending ITSELF
These things are Waste of time !!!!
In any court, if negotiations and mediation failed, then judges must make a ruling.
Follow the AIPAC moneyyyyy...
Why a country who is taking part to this crime should be listened to as a witness...they should be also sitting at the "criminal" seat!
They are actually defending their guilt
Figures... The United States and Israel are two sides of the same coin.
What a blessing!
You mean evil coin
Boycott all of them. US, Fiji and Israel
The Irish Government will today make a submission at the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in a case concerning Israel's occupation of Palestinian territory.
Americas foothold in the Middle East...
Shame on usa!!!
Shame for American administration
No fly zones,UN Peacekeeper FORCE RING A BELL?
Free Palestine and the world from US!!
I hope the US is annoyed Canada backed out… even if I’m severely disappointed that that’s *all* we did.
So tired of this country. Free Palestine.
Fiji got bought out
Maybe at gun point, USA is using these strategies everywhere they ask submission
World Champion of Human Right ….. champion of Democracy 👏 - Joker of century !
The reels faces of America,, very dark! ☝
It was completely shameful