Using the CREATIVE STYLES/modes in video and photography - Better "out of camera" images!
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- Using the CREATIVE STYLES/modes in video and photography - Better "out of camera" images!
Using the CREATIVE STYLES/modes in video and photography? - Better “out of camera” images
Today I show you the creative styles or modes in your camera … if you get frustrated when using the Picture Profiles in your camera and are struggling to get a good image from using S-log profiles…creative styles might be the way to go. They give you images that you can use right out of camera so no more editing your videos and jpeg photos.
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Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro
0:37 - Not a fan of S-log?
1:21 - Filming video
2:20 - Flat video profiles
2:30 - Creative Styles
3:02 - How to activate creative styles
5:02 - Sony Examples of creative styles
7:51 - Side by side examples
8:53 - How to use creative styles
9:56 - Getting good colors
11:22 - What do you think about creative styles?
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It was exactly what I needed and you explained everything so well ! Thank you !
Excellent video
Thank you so much 💓
Well explained, Thank you for this video Mike
Thanks so much Dave!! 😁👍
Great info 🎉
Inspire me
Thank you Sir, I am waiting for this video
No worries, I hope it has helped! 😁👍
Thank you!
Excellent video! Thanks
No worries, Thanks for watching 😁👍
Thanks for a good breakdown of the different styles, and great ending of the video, the most important thing really is to just keep shooting and learning by doing.
No worries, glad you liked it!
Thanks for watching Arman 😁👍
Great video thank you greetings from Australia cheers
Thanks so much Anton! I hope all is good with you guys down under! 😁👍
Mike you are indeed fantastic tutor..
Sony should acknowledge you for knowledge AMD features you share.
We photographers really benefit out of your video
Thanks so much Sarvana, I really appreciate your kind words! THey were helping a lot in Dubai, but now I've moved to Bangkok, I'll have to start building those relationships again!! 😆😁👍
Thank you so much! I shoot family events and so on in jpeg, as I've no interest in editing them, as I only find joy in editing landscapes, so this was really helpful:-)
Great to hear Oyvind! These really do come in handy in some circumstances.
Thanks for watching. 😁👍
love you Mike sir we are lucky we have good teacher on TH-cam 👍
Thanks so much Riz!! 😁👍
Excellent!
Thanks very much Bob! 😁👍
Extremely helpful video. I was looking for how to pull the best video image out of camera without having to do any post production adding of LUTs (which eats up so much time as well as memory) or color correction. Big name TH-camrs don't give you clear and concise information and are barely speaking English in that regard. Your video was concise, to the point, with examples. A+
Thanks very much! 😁👍
Congratulations on reaching that hundred thousand mark do great work
Thanks so much Scott!
it's a quite a new topic for me . I have not used these presets. I will use these tips and will share my experience . I like the way you talk straight in to topic making things so simple to understand. thanks for improving this cra5. stay blessed. 🤩🤩🤩
No worries, there is so much to learn in these cameras...but then lots of options for us to get the best out of them as well.
Thanks for watching. 😁👍
@@mikesphotography thanks for reply. yes the way you make such short but comprehensive clips in such busy time. these clips are wonderful for improving skill
You are great sir 🙏
Thanks very much! 😁👍
excellent video! although I like sony creative styles, this is also my biggest criticism on sony cameras: you cannot apply them after the picture has been taken. With fujifilm for example, not only can you develop the raw files in-camera applying their creative styles (film simulations) but at the same time you can tweak shadows and highlights and add grain....so if you don't need local adjustments, you can really have a finished image straight out of camera!
Now that is a really good feature with the Fuji cameras...I'm surprised sony haven't done that as well.
Thanks for watching. 😁👍
What creative style should I opt for a place I m going to visit where hundreds of migratory birds seagull flying around the river..... should I opt landscape or neutral?
I have mine in vivid most of the time. Shoot raw and jpeg though so I can either use the jpeg to share on the spot or edit later. Use totally different settings for landscape though.
Thanks for sharing your workflow. Great to hear. 😁👍
This was a great video! Frustratingly, Sony now uses even less helpful descriptions for their creative styles... ST, FL, SH ,VV... so annoying. I can't even find what these abbreviations stand for. Does anyone know?
I have noticed that too, on my new A7CII. I assume ST is standard and VV is vivid. FL is perhaps flat, like neutral earlier?
I was JUST trying to create a picture profile so I could share the jpgs sent straight to my phone for quick social media stuff but failed. TOTALLY forgot the creative styles 😅 thanks Mike!
The picture profiles can be such a minefield! ... and that's where creative styles come in to play!!
As always, thanks for watching. 😁👍
Great video! Which Creative Style did you shoot this video in?
Haha! Good question. I use the sony pro color profiles from eosHD.com which give good colours out of camera so I don't have to colour grade my footage.
Thanks for watching 😁👍
I love color grading images. Is it better to shoot in flat profile or just neutral profile?
Do you mean still images or videos? For videos with a high dynamic range, it's best to shoot in a flat profile, but only if you know how to colour grade properly.
For stills, it's better to shoot in raw and then do all your editing in lightroom or an equivalent program.
I use a lot the Neutral style, I like the lower saturation and contrast, and it`s easy ti change later if I want to while editing.. Really nice video Mike ;)
Good to hear Thamires! It definitely gives us a much flatter profile than some of the other creative styles. 😁👍
Many thanks, if I use creative styles, can i later use red giant magic bullet looks, to add the cinematic high budget movie look ? Would creative style neutral be the good choice to color grade it later ?
You can use magic bullet looks on any footage you have...I'd keep it in neutral though, so you start with a slightly flatter image to drop the red giant presets on afterwards.
Thanks for watching 😁👍
@@mikesphotography many thanks and big respect Sir.
I have an A5100 and I use Creative Styles a lot, I don't waste time editing pictures after. Maybe after I will upgrade to A6400.
These are for me when I'll be back to this video... 07:53 08:30.
Nice video..
Thanks Sanju! 😁👍
thanks. Shooting In raw photography, what is best for creative style Standard or Neutral? Or if you shoot in raw, its automatically shoot in standard
I think it depends on what program you edit in. In lightroom you can either set it to give you the sidecar image, which is the jpeg it creates with this creative style used, or you can set it to create its own.
The best way to work out what comes across for you and your system is to shoot the same photo with a few different styles and see if they look the same or if they all look different.
Another informative video full of useful tips. Color profiles to me just kill more of the file. If there is a mistake then it takes even more to correct. When ever I use one after I just dislike the look. This after I so wanted a camera that does all those things. Oh I want to shoot this scene is green profile, nope hate it. Doing it later in post is easier for me. Thank you. Stay safe and sane.
Most definitely Lance, these styles are a bit of a crutch for photography...like you said, it's always best to do all of this in post so you build up your image from the raw. 😁👍 It was an interesting test to do though, just to see how the different creative styles actually look like...more from a videography point of view.
How are things over with you now?
Hello, thanks for the excellent demonstration video. I wonder if you could shed some light on something that is confusing to me. When I scroll through the Creative Styles list, there seems to be duplicate versions of all the Creative Styles but no way to differentiate between them. For example, there are two versions of Standard, Vivid, Neutral, Clear etc. So if I scroll from the top of the Creative Style list (e.g. from Standard to Sepia) the very next option (after Sepia) is another version of Standard; minus the changes I made to the first version of Standard. It’s like there are duplicates of all the Creative Styles with the exception of Sepia, and no way to really differentiate between them. If you could shed some light on this I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance.
SO the second set of creative styles all have numbers next to them, numbered 1-6. These are full customisable whereas the main set are set to their proprietary names. So with the ones numbered 1-6 you can change the starting style. You could have them all set to standard with whatever settings you want in them or you can pick your own style to start with.
Does that make sense?
@@mikesphotography Perfect sense; thank you. I learn something new every day!
Sepia didn’t fit = dog ate my homework 😁. Tried these in-cam variations but found them unappealing, more of a gimmic. Prefer editing profiles and presets in post - faster, easier. As you noted, lens color rendition can add to results combinations and permutations - do cams in a maker’s lineup also vary? E.g., same coloration for same lens on, say A9 vs A73?
Wasn’t there a line in one of Shakespeare’s works about “her eyes were like two limpid pools of water”? 😁
Haha!! I'll always find an excuse!! 😆
I do prefer editing from RAW files as well...much better to do the editing instead of leaving it up to the camera.
There might well have been...Shakespear was a dab hand at writing!! 😁👍
These picture profiles are useful for cameras where you don't have s-log or HLG (manufacturer intentionally cripples these models to sell more expensive ones).
But how about losing the dynamic range when you squeeze DR information into flatter (more narrow) image? I'm talking about 8-bit video. You're just losing the color information during compressing it into narrow DR flat image.
It's not like you're lifting the gain for blacks. It's more like lifting blacks to the level of shadows, replacing the information between these 2 levels.
Hey I'm looking for an answer, I shoot the pictures in raw with a creative look that I liked. But whenever I go to lightroom and in the develop tab the creative look goes away, is there a way to retain that creative look?
Creative style only applies on jpg pictures. Put the raw+jpg option so u have the raw to edit and the jpg to upload right away.
Mostly shoot in neutral, what's the best picture profile settings
Different picture profiles are best suited to different conditions depending on the dynamic range of the composition. 👍
Hello I have a question is the 28 70mm f3.5-5.6 sony lens better than the tamron 28 75mm f2.8?
Hi Adam, I'd say the Tamron 28-75mm is much better than the Kit lens...that wider aperture gives you a lot more light through the range and it is a little sharper as well. 😁👍
@@mikesphotography thank you
I'm indecisive, sigma 16mm f1.4 or tamron 28 75 mm f2.8?
Hi ,
Using my SONY A7II camera, i am shooting portrait photography, I am getting too much of a contrast and shadowy image.
That too by Using 85mm sony , 24-70mm lens.
Could you please recommend on settings to be changed ?
I have tried creative style like standard and light. Didn't get the desired image
It all depends on the lighting conditions you have... as a portrait photographer, you have to manipulate the light you have to make it work for your subject. This might be by moving your subject closer to the light source, using a diffuser to soften the light if there is too much contrast, or finding better light.
Try watching some of Peter Hurley's videos. He talks about natural light when he first started in some of his earlier videos using a big window to light his portraits... and then later in his career, using flashes.
With portraits it is all about getting the right light on the subject without having the background being too overpowering.
In this one he gives a few tips about lighting your subject: th-cam.com/video/QIAZ7hfipDc/w-d-xo.html
I hope that helps. 😁👍
Check your WB as well.
Do you know if these creative styles have an effect on the histogram?
That's a good question...yes it does.
Basically the flatter profiles will have a flatter histogram.
Thanks for watching 😁👍
why do video like this only get 2,600 views but the other video that don't explain anything (look at my new studio!!!!) get 100,000 c'mon algorithm!!!!
Haha! Oh the joys of TH-cam...🤦🏻♂️...the algorithm has a mind of its own sometimes.
Thanks for your kind words. 😁👍
Great explanation, Mike. I will sometimes shoot in the black & white creative style in order to find subjects that work well buy using contrasting light. I always shoot JPG and RAW, so I still have the RAW file to edit if I decide that color is the way to go. What I have found is that it makes me concentrate more on how the light falls on a subject in B&W, which in the end can produce a better color image when I edit the RAW file. Hope you and your wife and enjoying Thailand. Take care, brother.
Hey Stephen, that sounds like a great way to shoot...I know a lot of ENG cameras have a black and white monitor as it makes it easier for the camera operators to focus...and like you say, see how the light falls...might even be a future video topic there...🤔
We're all good. Having loads of storms in Bangkok at the moment, so got my cameras working overtime on the balcony at the moment!! 😆
I hope all is good with you dude...how are the Covid rules at the moment with you guys?
@@mikesphotography Bangkok storms can only lead to fantastic lightning shots and dramatic storm time lapses, so, I will be waiting. Things are good with us. The COVID rules are radically different from state to state. Here in Alabama, things have pretty much returned to normal, although we still have an active face-covering mandate that has just been extended another five weeks. I work on an Army base, so we have some additional requirements there, but nothing too bad. Today is our 10th anniversary, and the first one that has not been spent in some exotic locale. Last year on this date we were eating under the stars in the Atlas Mountains just outside of Marrakech. We will be happy when the world returns to normal so we can all travel again. Thailand has a greater appeal than Dubai to Elizabeth, so maybe one of these days I can buy you a beer(s) and you can show me how to take a picture. Be well, brother.
Definitely gonna try that, thanks for sharing!
thanks for all of this. Extremely helpful. I've been struggling with picture profiles, driving myself crazy in davinci resolve trying to get everything right after shooting, and so... I'm about to turn pp off and use creative styles instead. Thanks again!
No worries, I hope it helps just using the creative styles instead. They are really useful and a lot easier to use than the picture profiles...
Another one to look into is the pro colour pack from Andrew at eosHD.com. He has some interesting views on picture profiles and a pack you can buy to help with picture profiles. I use these all the time, and even though I don't know Andrew, it has helped me a lot when using picture profiles.
I hope that helps 👍
www.eosHD.com
@@mikesphotography ahh... I'll definitely check that out, thank you very much. I saw another great video here by Brandon Li, using the standard creative style instead of a picture profile, and so I've been using that lately, and it actually looks amazing. As long as my white balance is correct, and as long as I expose everything properly, the colors coming out of the camera in standard are fantastic. I'm definitely going to check out that website, thanks again!
Brandon Li is a fantastic creator. Have you got the link to his video? It would be interesting to see that one. 👍
. he's amazing. I've learned a lot watching his videos... this is it. He goes into a little bit of detail about it at the beginning. I found even at 8 bit, on my a6400, creative style is awesome. Right out of the camera. th-cam.com/video/dFGwi6II3i8/w-d-xo.html
Not something I ever use, other than occasionally turning on black & white, which helps me concentrate on light and composition. I always shoot RAW as well, so I typically would create the styles afterward.
I HAVE changed the color space (I don’t think that’s the technical term, it’s the customization that you can do for your white balance) on my Sony’s - have you ever tried that? I’ve always really liked the Fuji and Olympus “look”, so I make a very minor change to try and emulate them.
Do you mean that graph to push the white balance to any one of the four different colours? If so, then yes, I do change this in my cameras to get a better starting point.
Thanks for watching 😁👍
@@mikesphotography - yes, I think that's it. I also set the white balance priority to white, and I seem to get much better images SOC than before.
@@doplinger1 can you please share your customization settings on white balance for the Fuji and Olympus “look”, and any other settings you experimented to get the Fuji and Olympus “look” - thank you
@@dimdimich1 - it is simple on my A7iii, and I believe it’s the same on the a6000:
In your menu, go to tab 1, pg 14, “White Balance”. Now, I have mine set to “Auto: White” but if you click on the right side of your scroll wheel, you will see a grid and spectrum of color. By default it is set to A-B: 0 and G-M: 0. Use your scroll wheel again to click to the right, and click down. until it reads “A-B: A1” and “G-M: M1”. That’s it.
@@doplinger1 Thank you Dave, will give it a go
I never use the creative styles from my Sony A7III. I shoot raw file only. Indeed, I use the camera on manual or Aperture priority only like as an analog camera.
The best way to shoot. 😁👍
This is more of a guide for people who might be struggling with colours after just buying the camera.
Thanks for watching. 😁👍
I don't know why, but in my a6400 red color looks orange-ish! I call it "carrot disaster"!!! I can fix it with PP, but not with Creative Style.
Picture profiles definitely give you more control over your colours, once you understand them. The sony colours are a little tricky to get around with video but when you do know how to use them properly, they can give some amazing looking results!
Thanks for watching 😁👍
Dmitry Lashkevich -can you please share your settings for PP to fix ''carrot disaster"? Like the way you call it-"carrot disaster" ! Thank you
@@dimdimich1 Settings might varied for different PP, but try to change Color Phase and maybe Color Depth for "red".
@@kovacz4433 thank you Dmitry, I will try to reduce phase and color depth for red.
@@dimdimich1 If you reduce phase it'll go into green, if increase - into magenta, which might be better.
So, what color IS your background supposed to be?
Good question...it is blue! 😁👍
With the same Creative Style the colors change between Jpeg Raw and Movie (same WB,ISO,Aperture,Speed)-> drive.google.com/file/d/1bHvlxTrKUCVQ7BLPZjjuLSkADKv4mxWG/view?usp=sharing
Its like having x3 Creatives Styles 😅
Did you mention what the REAL colour of your background is..?
Nope
Thank you!
And thank you for watching Joel! 😁👍