Car and Driver: Tested : 2012 Fisker Karma - Review - CAR and DRIVER
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- Contributing Editor Csaba Csere takes an in-depth and technical look into the 2012 Fisker Karma and interviews Henrik Fisker, chief designer and executive chairman of Fisker Automotive, on the latest episode of Car and Driver: Tested.
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CAR: Fisker Karma
LOCATION: California
MAG EDITORS: Csaba Csere
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One word: Presence. This car has road presence in SPADES, especially if you see one on the road. Incredible design.
Man i really like the reviews that this guy makes. Takes his time to go into a lot of details and also showing them. Covering practicality, Driving, Looks and giving his honest buying advice. Thanks ;D
So they only built like 2500 cars and over 300 of them were destroyed by Hurricane Sandy....lol holy smoke, talk about Karma lol
Your comment may be the best comment I have ever seen
Considering that "Mr" Fisker worked for Tesla design team and left Tesla to build his own electric hybrid with low spec and overpriced... His confidence convided people to buy these cars...
One of Henrik Fisker's greatest strengths is his prowess in design. Just look at the lines of a Aston Martin Rapide (which he also designed). He should've stuck with that since this vehicle's greatest downfall is the lack of infrastructure in place to service it. This is where Tesla really shines; on a worldwide scale. The ownership experience that Tesla provides for their customers is second to none, and that's what a car purchase boils down to. Reliability, ease of service and cost of ownership.
I like this guy Csere. He's special. Keep up the good work. Don't lose your uniqueness.
Fisker Karma body with everything else the Model S, this car would be amazing.
Being a reader of Car & Driver magazine for years I have always enjoyed Csaba Csere's reviews. And now I'm really enjoying his video presentations. Presentations are very coherent and offer a lot of interesting details. I'm very happy with subscription to your channel! Thank you.
this is one of the best car reviews ive see on youtube, keep it up
I recently had an opportunity to buy one for 30k so I did some research. This car will try to kill you. The exhaust comes out behind the front tires, so if you're idling in traffic you're sucking exhaust fumes. The batteries they used had faults in them and actually caused a few cars to catch fire.
Csaba is probably the best car reviewer I've ever seen! There are a lot of amazing car reviewers out there, and while Jeremy Clarkson is very entertaining, I wouldn't ask him about buying a car for myself.
Csaba's approach is to review a car more like a close friend of even a father (THIS IS A COMPLIMENT!!!!), and as a result I trust his reviews most of all.
Please keep reviewing cars, you're awesome!
Well detailed honest and unbiased review, good job.
excellent review! lovin the videos
Again, such a thorough review.
Great tv show! Good quality! Thanks! Good job Casba!
Brilliant review
Thank you! I really enjoy C&D videos, very informative and interesting. One of my favourite suscriptions. Cheers!!
The best report by Csaba Csere!! I like you test drive!! Well done!!
Absolutely keep doing things like this
BY FAR THE BEST REVIEWER E-V-E-R. PERIOD!!!
Fantastic review guys, Only thing I would say is that this felt a little drawn out and the same thing was covered a couple of times, but I am really enjoying the thought and "class" that has gone into all of your newer reviews. Keep up the great work.
Solid review. Very informative and impartial!
nice review, and i certanally hope Fisker gets good sales. the car and Henrik deserves it. and how nice it is to hear Henrik talk with his ol' Danish accent :-D
Thanks for the feedback, E. The car is quite an accomplishment. We don't hear a lot about Fisker in Denmark. I guess my country is too small for for a company like that to really make an impression but it is nice to see them making an impression abroad. We are only around 6 million people in Denmark so only a fraction of the population here would have the means to get a car like that. Best regards, Leo from Denmark
Great reviews. Best on internet.
My 1998 Lexus LS400 does 0 to 60 in 6 seconds and tops out at 160mph! Was built with highest quality materials, My car is 26 years old and the headlight covers are as crystal clear as the day it was new, and there plastic! So there is a material they can use over headlights that doesn't get foggy or just dingy looking!! I have proof, or just look at the first decade of Lexus cars like the LS400 and see how good the build quality is, and nothing but the highest quality materials were used for the inside and outside of those cars! The colors dont fade, the leather lasts forever and the V8 engine, plus transmission last and last with no problems! I drive my 26 year old Lexus ls 400 everyday, its my daily driver and I wouldnt hesitate to drive it anywhere because it doesn't breakdown or give me any problems! It has the most comfortable ride that you can drive it 3 times longer than any other car because you dont get fatigued, because you feel like your floating on air! No, its not a sports car, but sometimes you just want to relax and be comfortable especially on a long trip. And the car doesnt attract the polices attention! I have never been pulled over or even looked at by police in the Lexus 400!! I had a 1996 Pontiac Trans am convertable until about 3 years ago, it was my second car besides the LS400. I was always being followed or pulled over for no reason besides I had a nice cool Trans am conv with bright red leather seats and interior, I never saw one with that color interior before or since! anyway, it got me thinking of turning my Lexus LS400 into some kind of sleeper car. Sure it had very good power, especially for a large car but nobody, or I mean cops give that car a second look. It looks like a well to do car, not beat up to draw attention and not a sports car that cops love to gravitate twards because they love to intimadate younger people! When they would pull me over in the TA or Mustang they always looked shocked when they walked up to the drivers side window and theres a 58 year old man looking back at them!! I can tell they just thought I was a young kid and got surprised when they saw my face. They usually just let me go quickly! But the LS400 does not draw their attention at all, so I thought a supercharger would make a nice sleeper out of it! besides, the seats in that car are so comfortable and both driver and passenger seats fold all the way back, flat, like a comfortable bed!! I set up my tablet and blootooth it to the stereo and watch a movie or tv show in confort at the park or something!
Thanks for the great review!
very fair guy with his judgement i m a mechanic guy and i enjoy it.. thx for posting
That one very very well designed interior, love it!
Beautiful, stunning. Can't wait to drive it down the PCH
great review.
I was genuinely scared to see Csaba driving this in the rain. These things explode when you get them wet.
You are a really awesome Reviewer!
love love love love love this car.
Great review, thank you.
Csere, from the drivers seat, which felt more like a drivers car?
Fisker or the Tesla?
It's laughable to watch this review a few years later. Right about the time this review was published the Model S was being shipped to customers......
The next time you see one of these on the road, you can proudly say to yourself "I helped that guy to buy his car!'
Yes i would like to see more reviews like this - i like it when it´s informative. Off course some variations is always good, but IMO some basics have to be covered unless the review/concept is different. Drama and fun is also good entertainment, but it´s very hard to pull off to great success, and many fail in this. So yes please more reviews like this ;)
Nice car but it has a hodgepodge of different cars thrown together. It looks lie a Corvette, Camaro, BMW, Dodge Viper, mixed together. This isn't to take anything away from the car and to those who like it. It's great that these guys are bringing us this stuff. The more they bring us and the more people buy the lower the price might become.
Thx for your reply! I was concerned about the batteries developing memory (like cellphone and laptop batteries) or in the case of lead acid batteries, my car's battery (sealed battery) gets changed out on average every 2-3 years. If these battery packs can last like you say, then full electric makes a lot of sense
hey were you guys in long beach friday? i seen the car parked while i was over there. cheers
Great review of a stunning car. Though the one car I would see as the closest alternative to this was never mentioned. The Lexus LS hybrid.
Beautiful car!
I'm glad he recognized the impracticality of the car as it isn't as versatile as most cars need to be today. With a 28-35 mile range on electricity it's hardly making in impact for most people because the average daily commute to work (one way) in the US is approximately 20 miles. In huge cities where traffic increases and road accessibility decreases that number can rise to as high as 60. Which is why Csere said it best when he stated that this is a very particular car for a certain buyer
Beautiful automobile! And I have a lot of respect for Mr. Csere, that's why when I watched this video and saw him taking both of his hands of the steering wheel for prolonged periods it really supprised me?! Csaba even you??? This is such a BAD example for young drivers and bad all around when piloting any automobile! I love cars, and it would seem that a lot of professional auto journalists practice this very bad habit? O.K., enough about that, great CAR and wonderful review Mr. Csere!
Beautiful shape and the fact that it is responsible. But I'm not keen on the rear lights or the design of the lower front and rear bumper...
I saw this car in trafic the other day and it looked like something from the future by far one of the sexiest car I have ever seen.
I want one!!!
What are the paddles on the steering wheel for?
To me, the compromises would be worth riding around in something this special and beautiful. Also, if I have enough money to afford the Karma, I'd have something else for long trips. Awesome car, awesome review!
i love this car..... i love it
Such a cool car
Great review - I think it is also spot on on the Pros and Cons of this car - The only remarke i would say is that the center battery stack was not addressed. Having spent time i nthis car and other high end luxury cars, it is rather cumbersome. Tesla's horizontal stacking is much better, but then again Mr Fisker would know that considering he is the one that designed the tesla :) Well done. Keep them coming.
Makes me proud to be danish !
The history of fisker car (2007-2014) for 7 years fisker founded in 2007 But is get defunct in 2014 R.I.P. fisker car (2007-2014).😞 🚘
and now they are at it again FISKER E-Motion looks not as stunning, but has hopefully less flaws
Csaba Csere is without a doubt everything I could ever wish for in a car reviewer. He is just so professional and to the point. Nice job by the employee from Fisker too. I assume he was Danish. Being a dane I'm glad to see people putting in some effort when speaking a foreign language. The Fisker is a pretty impressive car. Without knowing all the facts I would say that the Tesla S so far looks far superior to the Fisker when pricing and performance is concerned though. Nice video!
Fabulous
Yep!
Excellent review! Ihaaker, I also would choose the Tesla Model S - don't you love the interior and this massive 17" screen? But one thing the Fisker has is a petrol engine. It's a hybrid as opposed to the all electric Tesla. This means that you can take the Fisker out for long distance drives which you really can't with the Tesla - at least for now, until Tesla installs their charging stations everywhere.
Did Fisker offer any information as to the considerations they took to improving efficiency through the external design of the car? Like drag coefficients, etc...Also, do big wheels like that improve efficiency or reduce it?
awesome car
Excellent Review! I think the Karma is great. Perhaps the Karma 2.0 will address the deficiencies sited in Csaba Csere's comments??? ... I believe a new user interface and perhaps some sound suppression/isolation for the 2-liter engine might be among the first things to address. All things considered though... great first car for Fisker. I am excited for the Karma S (please build) and Atlantic.
Exactly.
how much will it be if you make it chrome?
My bad..I apologize for my ignorance and meant no disrespect. What I meant by my comment should be read as my thumbs up for the car, the initiative behind it and the person presenting it in the video. Making a car on this level is by no means something to be belittled.
The design is really cool... regardless of inviromental considerations, and maybe ergonomic short comings. All 4 door sudans, should look so good!
Liked the review, but I was just wondering on your opinion on the fit and finish. I saw one in Las Vegas, and none of the exterior body panels seem to line up. Nonetheless, the most gorgeous 4dr sedan in the market today.
Nice review, no fuzzing about, plain and simple. Just the way I like it. Tell me, has anyone asked Mr Fisker if, in a few years, we will see hydrogen Fiskers?
I'm just wondering.
Have a nice day!
Sad to see such a beautiful car fail in the harsh reality of the automobile industry, but perhaps Fisker should have hired a few more engineers and accountants instead of just designers. Disclaimer: I'm an engineer :).
Well said! :)
Fisker is set to announce a new car in Q2 of this year. I really liked the way this car looked and its focus on the luxury feel, no matter where you sit. I would love to test drive this car someday.
Brad R hey, there back now! It’s not Fisker Karma anymore, it’s now the Karma Revero.
Considering that "Mr" Fisker worked for Tesla design team and left Tesla to build his own electric hybrid with low spec and overpriced... His confidence convided people to buy these cars...
This car has too much 'edginess' in its design DNA to be considered a timeless and universally gorgeous. Basically what a teen aspiring to be a 'car designer' would draw. Muh agressive, muh sport, wow. It's banal in its core, there are really no different cues, just that plain 'sporty' vibe that's executed in the nor convincing (like Lamborghini, it's plain aggressive but more harmonic and authentic), nor elegant way.
Beautiful car....
i think this car is incredible
Ya got a link to explain that claim?
@johannesskaun74 that "employee" you are referring to is actually the CEO of the company
The Fisker employee was the founder and creator of Fisker and the Karma.
Fisckers don't make noise when you start them, just so you know
Tesla Model S
Reading customer reviews from the Tesla and Fisker is like day and night. The Fisker Karma has too many compromises. Tesla is the future. Everyone should test drive one. It's awesome!
Well we certainly are entitled to our respective opinions, my opinion ,,, this car is a long long away from being " ugly " as you put it.
Seems like we are comparing cars ( according to your post ) I definately see a bit of Aston Martin and Mazda RX8 in the profile, never heard of anyone calling those cars " ugly ".
But again it's all a matter of opinion and we should respect the right of others to form and post theirs.
Great technology in a beautiful design, well done Mr. Fisker and crew !
this car is dope. future right here
I think the Fisker Karma is absolutely gorgeous
What a wonderful sports car this is - yes the growling of a V12 and V10 is nice but THIS is the future. And the future looks very promising so far.
This was their first car !! In that prospectiv it is a great product. aswell as it is a completely new engine system. It is a shame that they didn't get a change to do improvements ... i like the idea that there are people out there which have the balls to compete with all these billion dollar automotiv firms existing for 100 years!!
Test drove the Tesla Model S-P85+ and was very impressed with it's performance and handling. Don't care much for the layout of the battery box in the Karma.
I don't know if one can do this, but is it possible with the software to modify the 0-60 time in order to extend the battery life? I mean, if I had one, i would set it for 0-60 for 6 second instead of 4.3 seconds and if that extended the life 50+ miles, it would be worth it. I've driven cars in the 6 second range and never really used it to where i needed to really actually use that power available.
This car is waaaay better looking than a Tesla, just my opinion though. I'd own one.
probably because they spied and copied tesla
The best car.
Looked one over today....I'm no fan of electric cars at all, but this car is striking....quite beautiful even.
pretty good review Chubby Cheddar : ) quite fair although I would have accepted a more scathing treatment of the gasoline mileage and the green credentials of a 2.4ton car.
it's more of a token than actually engineered for efficiency. it could be done at half the weight with double mileage and the some
I'd purchase the fisker, the would have to redo the electric attached to battery.
Thank you sir. This is the way comments should be made. I am tired of answering to commenters who tell other people they are morons because they disagree, I don´t answer to them. But certainly everyone has their own opinion and appreciations about cars. So thank you for a very polite expression of your opinion to another person´s comment. Some actual morons should learn from this, lol...
I know they've had a few hiccups in the past but hopefully they've works out the kinks. But they're up against the Tesla S which I find incredible, so this electric/hybrid car war will be very interesting to watch in the near future. I hope both are able to stay alive, even bulldoze the conventional car market down a bit. I truly do believe electric/hybrid cars will be the wave of the future. I've becoming a fan of Fisker over time and wouldn't mind taking one out for a road trip; even a Tesla S
I'm still a little on the fence about the 17 inch touch screen. I do like physical buttons and knobs because i can change things without looking at it. That's the drawback when changing a setting on a flat screen while driving. There is a technology by some small company that creates the feel of a button, knob, slider, etc. with touchscreens, but they haven't released those yet. It's still in the R&D stage and they are looking for companies that make mobile devices. That might be cool
You guys should do a tesla/fisker comparison!
You could say the Model S is Tesla's first car too. The Tesla Roadster is a modified Lotus Elise. Lotus even made the Roadster chassis for Tesla. The Model S is first car fully designed and manufactured by Tesla. Fisker has made other cars before too, but they were just re-bodied luxury cars like BMW's 6 series and Mercedes SL's.
Having watched quite a few extended reviews on both the Fisker Karma and the Tesla Model S, it's clear that the Model S is the superior car for anyone who doesn't need to drive more than a few hundred miles without stopping.
YEAH! True they've only ended in mid 2012, but there may be some hope down the line. There was talks of reigniting the project with the company being bought by a German car maker. But it's doubtful they'll come back anytime soon. It really wasn't a bad car it just needed a lot of TLC concerning the business end and some of the electronics and drive train. I dunno I'm hopeful for these things.
The S model. Unfortunately, there is no location in my area and I'm not ready to purchase, but if I can swing it when I'm ready, I would have to drive one first and have some time to sit inside it. I'm normally used to driving Mercedes and I like the solid feel of Benz's, so if it has that solid feel when on the freeway, etc., that would be definite selling point. The 0-60 is great, but I don't think i'll ever need to push any faster than 0-60 in the 6 second range is PLENTY dangerous.
Cool
Childish Gambino brought me here
yeah! haha me too!
Me three
***** yasss lol
Just 2 let u know the fisker don't make a sound when it start up
Hey lol aint nobody sicker than my fisker vroom vroom though
i want this car.
The car is designed and engineered in the U.S. but manufactured in Finland and shipped to the States.
Based on the reviews and videos made by owners of the Fisker and the Tesla S so far I would absolutely agree with you. The Fisker's interface is supposed to be a little "glitchy" compared to the Tesla. They both look nice though.. Without knowing all the facts I would still say that the Tesla seems to be a more refined car. And who are we kidding :) almost three seconds faster from 0-60 even if you get the 20.000 dollar cheaper entry level Tesla. I know it's not a biggy but fast cars are fun.