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  • @victorrockhill5734
    @victorrockhill5734 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great discussion... I bought that Piper book. Also.. My book on Romans 9 (currently underway) has an excursus where I tackle this very heady topic under the "divine concurrence" model of providence. You'll find that most Christians in history ascribe to some form of providence. At around minute 50 Mitch discusses the permissive providence of God. This is only one view of the mechanic behind it often seen in latter theologians like Sproul. I happen to disagree with bare permission as I tackle that in my section on the mechanics behind the hardening of Pharaoh which follows the section I am sending in the link below. Calvin also rejected a permissive view for God's determinative activities.
    It's important since Arminians hold a very strong historical view of providence characterized predominately by the rubric of "permission." Here's a quote by Olson in Arminian Theology: "...whatever happens, including sin (e.g., the Fall of Adam), is at least allowed by God, but if it is positively evil, and not only evil to a mistaken understanding, it is not authored or authorized by God. God permits it ‘designedly and willingly,’ but not efficaciously. Furthermore, God controls (ordains, appoints, limits, directs) it in the sense that he points it to a good end.” This runs counter to what I call and am arguing for as Reformed Divine Concurrence.
    Here's the link to the subsection of an excursus on divine hardening which I find that God has providentially done... not passively as though he merely is allowing Pharaoh to harden himself. Check it out and let me know what you think! The book is coming along slowly because I'm going into everything implicated in that chapter.
    docs.google.com/document/d/10ZPtcD5gDq4orRDt2LIvdSHazYiCO_I44XjsqTKgRJU/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.roe8f5glyt