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3 degree glide = angle of approach; 140 knts = speed of 140 knots; flaps 30/40 = angle of the flaps, or "wing extension" for more lift in lowe speeds; flare = raising nose right before landing to make sure main gear touches down first. Do you understand now? This person in the video seems to be a complete amateur/hobby pilot, which knows not much about landing procedures.
3 degree glide, 140 kts, flaps 30/40... flare.. this is some of the "requirements" for a safe and smotth landing... Landing is not just putting the airplane on the ground.
yous guys iz soo smart i m imprezed with your knoledge plz continu making doosh commentz and impressing internets peoples on the wifi internets. It's a circle runway sperglord. Realism left the cockpit a long time ago. Props to the dude for thinking outside the box and making it work.
when you make a simulation about a circular runway with the question whether it works or not.. then you can put a little effort in it and make it not look like the plane crashes in every part of the landing. Just think about it, sure it is possible. Everyone, who knows what airplanes are capable of can tell this. But it's not just about landing the plane there. A circular runway won't work with ILS approaches, heavy air traffic, ATC and so on
The problem with the circular runway is the changing wind direction and if the runway is in a bank angle. The low side could be a problem. And another problem is the high side of the wing would travel faster then the low side than this will effect the lift of the aircraft on takeoff.
From what I know, this was to reduce the risk of horrible disasters of crosswind landings. In my opinion, the risk would increase tremendously Edit: Wait.... X-Plane is from 1995
That's a complete stupidity, circular runways require much more space and concrete/asphalt, and how about traffic patterns, winds, other aircrafts taking-off and landing simultaneously as they do on normal rwy's. Also it's only possible to have one circular runway, the second one inside/outside is dangerous lol
It's not very scalable either. With a straight runway, you can start off with one or two runways that fits your current & near future capacity. If you need more runways as traffic grows, you can build more parallel runways or crossed runways. With this circular design, you basically have a large circumferential runway that's far in excess of your needs if you just need 2 runways for the current & near future. That results in lots of underused tarmac that has to be maintained anyway... Yeah, you could make the radius smaller but that means steeper bank angles for tighter turns, making take off & landings much harder. Also, since your flight facilities are in the middle, your options for future expansion of airport buildings may be limited.
They wan't it to be a runway where you can take off and land in almost a circular pattern But yea every landing/takeoff has to be perfect in order to maintain a calm runway.
THAT'S BECAUSE THIS BOWL SHAPED AIRPORT IS ONLY DESIGNED FOR ONE AIRPLANE TO USE (LAND-TAXI-PARK-TAXI-TAKEOFF)- NOT MORE THAN ONE- AND TRAFFIC PATTERNS DON'T MATTER AT ALL WITH THIS BOWL SHAPED AIRPORT- NOT A CD DISC SHAPE- SO JOKOKO LOPOPO, JARED DELL, MATTHEW TIUTIN, JONATHAN TAN, TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED, AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT CHOOSE TO CRITICISE MOMEDIA- YOU'RE THE STUPID ONES THAT ARE STUPIDITY AND DANGEROUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT MOMEDIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I've already bullied 900 people on youtube)
MoMedia no i mean from outside the airport Since it's a circle there's no gap for you to get in Go underneath the runway? Also how do you really get in the terminal Since there's no fucking road to get there
If this were a viable concept, you would likely use tunnels to go under the runway. That's already a commonly used method of entering an airport in many locations. I have some pretty strong doubts about the viability of a circular runway. I can see where the concept stems from and why it would be an excellent idea in theory, but I think in practice it would be a flop.
Banked runways have the rain run off easier. And you never have to worry about running out of runway length, so that's nice. Problem is; you need 20 times more pavement material, because you are paving half of the countryside with runway.
With the same amount of money you could build 3 runways at different headings to take advantage of most common prevailing winds. And take off & and in a straight line. With a constant wind along the full length of the runway, as opposed to varying headwind/crosswind/tailwind components along the circular path. In short, bad idea - but kudos for taking te time to create the scenery and show us the landing in a pretty realistic way. Well done!
I was expecting a really professional landing, but then you hit your left wing against the ground (golden rule: wings level before and during landing), you should sidestep (apply left rudder in this case) and keep your wings level. The gear will have to withstand so much friction that most of the Rubber will be on the runway after landing. Why use reverse thrust on an infinitely long runway? Realistically this kind of a runway would not work, ILS and Localizer approaches, as well as VOR approaches would not exist with such a configuration. Only GNSS / GPS / RNAV approaches would be the only to consider, autoland wouldn't work at all. As soon as a bit of fog appears or a few clouds, airport will be completely shut down.
Supposedly, the idea behind this is so that you can land into the wind regardless of wind direction. Problem is that it looks quite difficult to put the plane down exactly where you want it. Also, since it is essentially one runway, it does little to solve the congestion problem.
The problem with simulators is that improbable situations can be made to look real. There can be no safe landing when the airspeed over the wings is different. The inner wing will stall first causing the plane to roll when there is no altitude to correct. Now you are going to tell me the flaps on the inboard wing were set more aggressively.
Ok in real life your gear would break off just like many of the passengers budgets due to health insurance this is an infinite runway ~quote on quote so you need 25-40 flaps -4 degrees and 160 knts
I think the concept was more of a straight in approach at the heading designated while using a kind of cross wind technique at landing to compensate for the bank and curve of the runway instead of trying to spiral downward to the runway.
Instead of a circular runway, it would be better to use the inner circle for landing and those cirles outside for terminals, circle railways to terminals, lounges, stores, parking and outside connections. This would make much more sense.
BaconFat Studios not really. The plan behind this was that more planes together can land and it would be more effective in freespaceusing. But yes it sounds at the first look dumb. And on the second too
This was a crash, not a landing. The idea of a circular runway is amaizing, and it would provide the perfect landing with the wind always in front, eliminating the crosswinds. But the landing it's the same as the normal landing. You just pick a point of entry on the runway and aproach in straight line to that point. Because of the runway curvature you only need to bank the airplane 3-5 degree, just before touchdown. The slant and the curvature will do the rest, the plane will keep itselft to the middle and follo the curve. Simple, just a little bit of physics.
The simulated airport seemed to be based on the BBC animation, which is actually inaccurate in some ways. First, the research showed a maximum of 20° angle for Take-off and Landing, while the animation showed something like a 30°~35° angle. Also the curving from 0° to 35° is too steep, more like 2 airplanes wide, while the research is closer to space wasting 3~5 airplanes wide. Next, there are no Runway Markings to Take-off and Land. The Endless Runway project divide the Circle into 18 sections. So imagine the typical 18L/36R and 18R/36L markings, but done in a Circular Runway instead of Two Parallel Runways. 18/36, 20/02, 22/04,…, 30/12, 32/14, and 34/16. As you can see here, the Pilot is a bit confused on which section he should land. When the trick is: "Land at 36R, then make a hard turn left."
Most easy going traditional Airport Designers will just design an Airport with Three Runways, but shorter (1.5 km instead of 3 km); spread 800 meters apart or even closer. Left, Center, Right ≈ Take-Off, Landing, Take-Off (for busy Departures hour) ≈ Landing, Take-Off, Landing (for busy Arrivals hour). With Two Angled Runways to handled places with Extreme Crosswinds. Making a total of 5 Runways.
Nobody realizes how this is actually a good idea. No more going in circles in the air, no more waiting for the runway, no more run-offs. These types of runways would be a great items during emergencies, and people saying the amount of money to make this is too high don't know the amount airplanes spend on fuel just to go a circle in the air. This would be a time, money and a people saver in the long run. People just need to accept change, with the growing demands for air travel, we're gonna need for innovation.
I disagree, this idea is not viable. There are far too many cons for this to 'takeoff'. 1. ILS (CATIII conditions) 2. Engine strike on the ground due to sloped runway 3. Increased load on one side of the undercarriage to serve the tilted weight bearing 4. wind factors, a head wind will very quickly become tail wind when landing, especially for pilots who are 'flaring' 5. How would STARS/SIDS work in this scenario, and holding patterns I'm sure there are many other factors, but from running my own experiments, I think this idea is a flop.
I mean this is great for reducing taxi fuel as I'm assuming you can start anywhere, but how can you have multiple planes taking off and landing here? It's still only one runway.
What happens if the pilot gets it wrong? The plane could run up the slope and over the edge. I think this concept is interesting but it will increase a crew's workload at one of the most critical and labour-intensive phases of flight. What about Go-arounds? Aborting a landing or even doing touch and goes while banked could end up a bit of a mess, in my opinion. What do commercial airline pilots think about this concept?
I love how people that have little to no flying experience propose these silly ideas. Think about hoe effective this runway would be in an emergency situation. The entire airport would come to a standstill.
Cool haha, yeah i heard from this idea. The guy who came up with this rather crazy idea is i believe from the country where i live. Now that you learned me how to land a boeing on a circular runway, can you learn me how to become as rich as you are? Saw your instagram, you sure enjoy life :)!
Let´s just say the amount of time spent in a circular pattern before touchdown would have prevented any simultanious landing or takeoff attempts and thus the advertised advantage of a circular rundway in this case would have been zero.
For traditional pilots, blended Hexagon-Circular Hybrid Runways can work better than just Circular Runways. mathworld.wolfram.com/images/eps-gif/CirclesHexagonal_700.gif A 3.5 km across Hexagon can have SIX 2 km long Runway Side. Enough for a 747 to Take-Off, while for Landing or Aborted Take-Off, the aircraft can use the other 2 Km to roll over. In practice, a 747 usually only used half of a 3.5 km Runway. A Boeing 747 Dreamlifter once landed on a 1860 m long Runway (Jabara Airport). The actual Take-off and Landing distances themselves are even shorter, ~ 1 km for 747 and ~700 m for 737. So why a 3.5 km diameter? It can be a 2 km diameter instead. Of course if the Aircraft isn't capable steering after Landing or the Runway isn't capable leading the Aircraft to the other Runway, a Run-over could happen. So a HUGE airport isn't needed at all. You can easily have an Airbus A380 Take-off and Land on a 3 km long runway, or maybe even a 2 km long runway. Long straight runway is just a way for the airport people to make extra money, by monopoly (e.g. no small airport rivals) and getting more fund (e.g. building longer runway for 'bigger airliners').
Where can i download this airport ? I research this on french forum but nothing :'( I t's look like funny i want to try it! (sorry if i have a bad english but i don't want to use any translater) :D
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MoMedia honestly chill out dude it was a concept flight. it's not easy to do a perfect landing on a concept runway.
MoMedia what is the ICAO code of that airport
It is totally stupidity.....
If it implement then the number of air accident will increase a huge.
MoMedia Nice Landing
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instead of NASCAR we bring to you NASPLANE!!
how did you come up with that name xD
Matthew Menotti oh yes.........yep Xd lol
most expensive derby
I can drink to that
*NASPLANE not included
OK, now try landig with some realism... 3 degree glide, 140 kts, flaps 30/40... flare...
3 degree glide = angle of approach; 140 knts = speed of 140 knots; flaps 30/40 = angle of the flaps, or "wing extension" for more lift in lowe speeds; flare = raising nose right before landing to make sure main gear touches down first.
Do you understand now?
This person in the video seems to be a complete amateur/hobby pilot, which knows not much about landing procedures.
3 degree glide, 140 kts, flaps 30/40... flare.. this is some of the "requirements" for a safe and smotth landing... Landing is not just putting the airplane on the ground.
yous guys iz soo smart i m imprezed with your knoledge plz continu making doosh commentz and impressing internets peoples on the wifi internets.
It's a circle runway sperglord. Realism left the cockpit a long time ago.
Props to the dude for thinking outside the box and making it work.
when you make a simulation about a circular runway with the question whether it works or not.. then you can put a little effort in it and make it not look like the plane crashes in every part of the landing. Just think about it, sure it is possible. Everyone, who knows what airplanes are capable of can tell this. But it's not just about landing the plane there. A circular runway won't work with ILS approaches, heavy air traffic, ATC and so on
My plane only goes to flap 5, help pls
bullshit, the project expects ils glideslopes and you hit it at 250 knots
Giuseppe William Giamundo I
hitting the ground at 220kts, blimey!
Ollie & Esther Bliss that's just because he is a shit pilot.
Ollie & Esther Bliss Exactly! On top of that no flaps! BS!!!!
Ollie & Esther Bliss you must be fun at parties
true you need to be 160 to 140
I think that's routine when landing at SLLP.
Love to see a CATIII approach on a circular runway 😂😂 what a joke.
that would not be possible lol
spchalupa
There will be a new category of course!
spchalupa what is a CAT III approach?
K
will vill ? visual? like low visibility approach?
The problem with the circular runway is the changing wind direction and if the runway is in a bank angle. The low side could be a problem. And another problem is the high side of the wing would travel faster then the low side than this will effect the lift of the aircraft on takeoff.
From what I know, this was to reduce the risk of horrible disasters of crosswind landings. In my opinion, the risk would increase tremendously
Edit: Wait.... X-Plane is from 1995
WoW ii had my seatbelt as tight as could be...I think american airways should do this at a nascar track call it a promotional stunt lol.
James Randall ya...pilot dreams of NASCAR fantasy and gets carried away...then wakes up from dream lol
James Randall I needed you in my stream earlier! It was hectic bro 😂
sorry I wasnt online was on the xbox blasting zombies lol
James Randall
James Randall
At 1:11 the left wing would have been ripped off!
SmallBlock351Cleveland I agree
SmallBlock351Cleveland ikr lol
You got a hole in your left wing!
SmallBlock351Cleveland hahaha yes, thats my concern about this design what if the pilot overturned the plane
forrestgumball you got a wing in your left hoke
We could use the M25 instead of the new heathrow expansion coming soon
James Randall hahahaha
James Randall it now shall be called the R25
Arghhh noooooo! too much traffic already.
That's a complete stupidity, circular runways require much more space and concrete/asphalt, and how about traffic patterns, winds, other aircrafts taking-off and landing simultaneously as they do on normal rwy's. Also it's only possible to have one circular runway, the second one inside/outside is dangerous lol
It's not very scalable either. With a straight runway, you can start off with one or two runways that fits your current & near future capacity. If you need more runways as traffic grows, you can build more parallel runways or crossed runways. With this circular design, you basically have a large circumferential runway that's far in excess of your needs if you just need 2 runways for the current & near future. That results in lots of underused tarmac that has to be maintained anyway...
Yeah, you could make the radius smaller but that means steeper bank angles for tighter turns, making take off & landings much harder.
Also, since your flight facilities are in the middle, your options for future expansion of airport buildings may be limited.
They wan't it to be a runway where you can take off and land in almost a circular pattern
But yea every landing/takeoff has to be perfect in order to maintain a calm runway.
Absolutely right !!.I'm a Pilot ,,,Stupid idea ever,,werry Dangerous
THAT'S BECAUSE THIS BOWL SHAPED AIRPORT IS ONLY DESIGNED FOR ONE AIRPLANE TO USE (LAND-TAXI-PARK-TAXI-TAKEOFF)- NOT MORE THAN ONE- AND TRAFFIC PATTERNS DON'T MATTER AT ALL WITH THIS BOWL SHAPED AIRPORT- NOT A CD DISC SHAPE- SO JOKOKO LOPOPO, JARED DELL, MATTHEW TIUTIN, JONATHAN TAN, TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED, AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT CHOOSE TO CRITICISE MOMEDIA- YOU'RE THE STUPID ONES THAT ARE STUPIDITY AND DANGEROUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT MOMEDIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I've already bullied 900 people on youtube)
Twenty Five Hundred it’s a joke
We have a problem on circular runways
How the fuck do you get in the airport as a passenger
LOLWTF673 😂
MoMedia no i mean from outside the airport
Since it's a circle there's no gap for you to get in
Go underneath the runway?
Also how do you really get in the terminal
Since there's no fucking road to get there
LOLWTF673 i didn't thought about that 😂
If this were a viable concept, you would likely use tunnels to go under the runway. That's already a commonly used method of entering an airport in many locations. I have some pretty strong doubts about the viability of a circular runway. I can see where the concept stems from and why it would be an excellent idea in theory, but I think in practice it would be a flop.
ever heared something about tunnels ?
I guess if the tower calls "go around!", the pilot can just circle once then land....
Banked runways have the rain run off easier. And you never have to worry about running out of runway length, so that's nice. Problem is; you need 20 times more pavement material, because you are paving half of the countryside with runway.
With the same amount of money you could build 3 runways at different headings to take advantage of most common prevailing winds. And take off & and in a straight line. With a constant wind along the full length of the runway, as opposed to varying headwind/crosswind/tailwind components along the circular path. In short, bad idea - but kudos for taking te time to create the scenery and show us the landing in a pretty realistic way. Well done!
So let's change the tires after every landing due to the 220 mph flat spots. Just a really stupid fucking concept.
New meaning to the phrase "GO AROUND!" I think they will get confused.
lol, i saw a video with this couple days ago on facebook... its a weird but interesting project. great vid!
No flaps, tought great landing. I thought like wings might hit the ground but boy I was wrong!! 😁
he was landing at 220 knots at this point mid as well land without lol
Even for simulator still pretty damn awesome whoever made that Landon knows what is doing
Lets land on a frikin island, which is only the airport 😂😂😂
Snarky Plant 🤣🤣👌
Snarky Plant haha
Go to Vancouver
And they wonder why tourism plummeted.
BTW, where's the tower?
Wait a minute
It's abandoned, pull up! pull up!
I'm Mohammed from Egypt and I encourage you to take this bold step
I was expecting a really professional landing, but then you hit your left wing against the ground (golden rule: wings level before and during landing), you should sidestep (apply left rudder in this case) and keep your wings level. The gear will have to withstand so much friction that most of the Rubber will be on the runway after landing. Why use reverse thrust on an infinitely long runway? Realistically this kind of a runway would not work, ILS and Localizer approaches, as well as VOR approaches would not exist with such a configuration. Only GNSS / GPS / RNAV approaches would be the only to consider, autoland wouldn't work at all. As soon as a bit of fog appears or a few clouds, airport will be completely shut down.
rainzy ikr, it should be like a cross wind landing.
What is the approach course? How ILS is going to work? Where the transmitters and receivers for ILS are going to be installed?
Can we get the scnery somewhere ?
Lt Lev you have one for FSX and P3D by Soarfly Concept
Supposedly, the idea behind this is so that you can land into the wind regardless of wind direction. Problem is that it looks quite difficult to put the plane down exactly where you want it. Also, since it is essentially one runway, it does little to solve the congestion problem.
Thats really nice!! I read that a company in the Netherlands make maquette of it to take it to the real world! That sounds really great
Initial D: Plane Stage
*Featuring circular runways where you can drift an A380*
DEJA VU i have beaten the stakes before...
itsonlyian pretty sure it’s, “deja vu I’ve been in this place before”
I actually had a research report for my school as a quiz so I wrote about the idea of circular runways and that was new to the class
So now instead of NASCAR we have NASPLANE 😂 and it has it's own track and everything!!!
You made it look easy ;)
Wow! This is amazing! I never thought of this! But one question: Will the Airbus A380 and the Antonov An-225 make it?
Negative for the antonov an-225
@@AlejandroLapeyre 😅😫
The problem with simulators is that improbable situations can be made to look real. There can be no safe landing when the airspeed over the wings is different. The inner wing will stall first causing the plane to roll when there is no altitude to correct. Now you are going to tell me the flaps on the inboard wing were set more aggressively.
Ok in real life your gear would break off just like many of the passengers budgets due to health insurance this is an infinite runway ~quote on quote so you need 25-40 flaps -4 degrees and 160 knts
Jack Of Foxes Prove it 😉
Jack Of Foxes Prove it 😉
I think the concept was more of a straight in approach at the heading designated while using a kind of cross wind technique at landing to compensate for the bank and curve of the runway instead of trying to spiral downward to the runway.
which game is that
Jazz's Gameplays its minecraft
X-Plane 11
Darude gamestorm
AnAwiN 094 ikr
Instead of a circular runway, it would be better to use the inner circle for landing and those cirles outside for terminals, circle railways to terminals, lounges, stores, parking and outside connections. This would make much more sense.
Horrible approach.
this is a idea mentioned in 1965 in a USA magazine, that's the last I heard of it. thanks
its like some nascar raceway
Some deja vu and more initial d drifts and this will be a masterpiece
guys this is no joke countries are actually thinking about this..... >:[
Tauriq Cumberbatch seems ok to me
Gav Com seems quite dumb tbh
Laverne Johnson No, this was quite a big headline a few months ago
Yeah announced on April 1st it was.
BaconFat Studios not really. The plan behind this was that more planes together can land and it would be more effective in freespaceusing. But yes it sounds at the first look dumb.
And on the second too
"ladies and gentlemen please fasten your seat belts as we pull 4 G's so we can land thank you"
It looked hard
Great video and very interesting concept
common guys, it's a game... not real flight
hamith kumar 😂
hamith kumar it's not a game it is a SIMULATOR
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This was a crash, not a landing. The idea of a circular runway is amaizing, and it would provide the perfect landing with the wind always in front, eliminating the crosswinds. But the landing it's the same as the normal landing.
You just pick a point of entry on the runway and aproach in straight line to that point. Because of the runway curvature you only need to bank the airplane 3-5 degree, just before touchdown.
The slant and the curvature will do the rest, the plane will keep itselft to the middle and follo the curve. Simple, just a little bit of physics.
that worked.......
The simulated airport seemed to be based on the BBC animation, which is actually inaccurate in some ways.
First, the research showed a maximum of 20° angle for Take-off and Landing, while the animation showed something like a 30°~35° angle. Also the curving from 0° to 35° is too steep, more like 2 airplanes wide, while the research is closer to space wasting 3~5 airplanes wide.
Next, there are no Runway Markings to Take-off and Land. The Endless Runway project divide the Circle into 18 sections. So imagine the typical 18L/36R and 18R/36L markings, but done in a Circular Runway instead of Two Parallel Runways. 18/36, 20/02, 22/04,…, 30/12, 32/14, and 34/16. As you can see here, the Pilot is a bit confused on which section he should land.
When the trick is: "Land at 36R, then make a hard turn left."
Circular runways look like a really good idea for spins
in case you didn't realise, planes use flaps when landing and ground spoilers. they also don't approach a runway at 230kts
Ground spoilers, on an infinitely long runway? You'd just roll out, to reduce stress on the gear.
rainzy why were you approaching at 234kts
my one only thing is..how do you take off?
Most easy going traditional Airport Designers will just design an Airport with Three Runways, but shorter (1.5 km instead of 3 km); spread 800 meters apart or even closer. Left, Center, Right ≈ Take-Off, Landing, Take-Off (for busy Departures hour) ≈ Landing, Take-Off, Landing (for busy Arrivals hour).
With Two Angled Runways to handled places with Extreme Crosswinds. Making a total of 5 Runways.
Wow.... Amazing landscape .like a new small world in sea.
I think its a great idea. I’d be up for trying it!
Nobody realizes how this is actually a good idea. No more going in circles in the air, no more waiting for the runway, no more run-offs. These types of runways would be a great items during emergencies, and people saying the amount of money to make this is too high don't know the amount airplanes spend on fuel just to go a circle in the air. This would be a time, money and a people saver in the long run.
People just need to accept change, with the growing demands for air travel, we're gonna need for innovation.
I disagree, this idea is not viable. There are far too many cons for this to 'takeoff'.
1. ILS (CATIII conditions)
2. Engine strike on the ground due to sloped runway
3. Increased load on one side of the undercarriage to serve the tilted weight bearing
4. wind factors, a head wind will very quickly become tail wind when landing, especially for pilots who are 'flaring'
5. How would STARS/SIDS work in this scenario, and holding patterns
I'm sure there are many other factors, but from running my own experiments, I think this idea is a flop.
Can you share a link to the scenery so we can give this a go in our 737 sim as well?
Where can I download the runway from? Please post the link.
Is that what you would call a vacation to a remote getaway?
I mean this is great for reducing taxi fuel as I'm assuming you can start anywhere, but how can you have multiple planes taking off and landing here? It's still only one runway.
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What happens if the pilot gets it wrong? The plane could run up the slope and over the edge. I think this concept is interesting but it will increase a crew's workload at one of the most critical and labour-intensive phases of flight. What about Go-arounds? Aborting a landing or even doing touch and goes while banked could end up a bit of a mess, in my opinion. What do commercial airline pilots think about this concept?
you were going really fast on that landing
Your game looks so smooth
I love how people that have little to no flying experience propose these silly ideas. Think about hoe effective this runway would be in an emergency situation. The entire airport would come to a standstill.
blame the dutch they are too busy doing hard core drugs and fucking cheap hookers that all have stds
Now add crazy crosswinds to the simulation.
Cool haha, yeah i heard from this idea. The guy who came up with this rather crazy idea is i believe from the country where i live.
Now that you learned me how to land a boeing on a circular runway, can you learn me how to become as rich as you are? Saw your instagram, you sure enjoy life :)!
So glad this is just a simulator thing and no one actually had the braindead idea of building a circular runway in real life.
Excellent Landing Congrats
If this was done in real life then pilots would never have the problem of running out of runway
Where you can get
Rather than trying to land on the perimeter runway, why not land straight on that big circular patch of cement in the center?
hey where can I download this airport? I'd like to try it out
Please make one video on Mumbai airport which is in India
And provide all the details regarding the same
Let´s just say the amount of time spent in a circular pattern before touchdown would have prevented any simultanious landing or takeoff attempts and thus the advertised advantage of a circular rundway in this case would have been zero.
WTF !!! you are amazing :D
CreepY SK 😂
Now give yourself a moderate crosswind and try it.......
Not entirely sure use of reverse thrusters was overly necessary on what is essentially an infinite runway.
I wonder if this is what airports will look like in the future?
For traditional pilots, blended Hexagon-Circular Hybrid Runways can work better than just Circular Runways.
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A 3.5 km across Hexagon can have SIX 2 km long Runway Side. Enough for a 747 to Take-Off, while for Landing or Aborted Take-Off, the aircraft can use the other 2 Km to roll over.
In practice, a 747 usually only used half of a 3.5 km Runway. A Boeing 747 Dreamlifter once landed on a 1860 m long Runway (Jabara Airport). The actual Take-off and Landing distances themselves are even shorter, ~ 1 km for 747 and ~700 m for 737.
So why a 3.5 km diameter? It can be a 2 km diameter instead.
Of course if the Aircraft isn't capable steering after Landing or the Runway isn't capable leading the Aircraft to the other Runway, a Run-over could happen.
So a HUGE airport isn't needed at all. You can easily have an Airbus A380 Take-off and Land on a 3 km long runway, or maybe even a 2 km long runway.
Long straight runway is just a way for the airport people to make extra money, by monopoly (e.g. no small airport rivals) and getting more fund (e.g. building longer runway for 'bigger airliners').
Dangerous! When theres a high wind the wind can make the Aircraft turn 360 or the wings will hit the Runway
I saw this on the flightsim subreddit a few days ago
Good sim, very good graphics, But, those god damm engine and landing gear sounds get me everytime.
what's the goal of making circular runways
a good buddy of mine.....777/787 CP......was saying "as it is ...straight line has been tough for some....they come up with such crazy idea"?......
Imagine landing this heavy in one hell of a cross wind..
where did you learn how to land an airplane? next time, maybe you want to try some flaps and a safe landing speed (140-160 kias) ;)
Ah but to leave the round Airport which is essentially an island you would need to take another plane to get off it. Ummm
Total insanity, at which point does the left wing tip contact the ground and cause a crash?
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If this ever gets approved I'm never flying to airports with circular runways.
Wow that's insane!!😱😱
I first tought this was clickbait, but then... LMAO!
I didn't even think circular runways were possible.
Soul King they’re not but some idiot scientist think it is
If circular runways ever *take off* I will be scared of flying for the rest of my life.
I'm pretty sure the wings already scraped before the landing gears even touches the runway
Where can i download this airport ? I research this on french forum but nothing :'( I t's look like funny i want to try it! (sorry if i have a bad english but i don't want to use any translater) :D
Does that a mean a plane could potentially land on a track field?
I. Want to see this built before I die and i also wanna take off on one. And land on one too. I'm ADDING THIS TO MY BUCKET LIST