I was in Construction for 35 years now retired Loved the outside initial tour Of the Costruction details its always nice to see DIYers doing things correctly even though i understand Tyler does have a builder on site its obvious he is very involved with understanding whats going on most homeowners dont have a clue on all the procedures I’m quite impressed on the overall build and the neatness of everything getting ready for a close in its great to see all the appropriate blocking as my official Trade was a Architectual Woodworking Installer for over 20 years and many builders either overlook or dont care about all those needs especially in. Stair railings and handi cap grab rails etc . When my sister and BrotherinLaw built their last home I reviewed prints and told them where to add all that i even offered to Install it for them if they bought the materials nobody then. Was physically handicapped then but with age it was needed and they always thank me for my help its basically life in general and now our Mom lives there and needs some of those grab rails for safety as i told them in the beginning for a few sheets of plywood and some extra 2x4 s its cheap insurance in the long run Similar things i see in Tylers house you dont get in trouble for over Engineering things its only when they aren’t Engineered enough and unfortunately even the Smartest Engineers and Architects dont think of everything because usually they dont build the Structures themselves A group of guys and women i worked with we all used to Conclude that a architect should be required to intern or work on a crew for a certain time frame as part of their schooling
I once examined a vault/safe room that bad guys spent over two and a quarter hours trying to enter when the people went out for two+ hours. As I recall, what saved the room was thus: from the outside..1/2" sheetrock, 3/4" plywood, old scrap chain link fence material inserted with 5/8"x2" space board at top and bottom, 3/4" plywood, 1/2" sheet rock. The 4' sections of plywood had about 80 2" screws each through plywood, chain link into plywood. There was some kind of liquid screw material in the chain link space. L sMetal straps screwed into the wall sections, wall top and bottom and bolted to the deck and ceiling. Old bank vault door in professional metal frame. The crooks obviously knew what they were doing and came with demo tools to do the job. They were good at killing the two alarm systems, thus giving them time to work on entry. They got down to the chain link in two places and drilled two 2" holes through the walls but even with getting a half" cable with 3"x1/2" bar at the end (couldn't figure how they fished it on the end) and they used something to attempt to winch the gvault wall because they tore up the top of the stairs top using it as the dead end. They even tried a chainsaw. No joy. The suspects had a vehicle parked in the woods back of the house and escaped when the owners returned. Wish I could say we caught them. The owner had two guys come out and it took a couple hours to repair the damage...good as new. I think it was the metal chain link holding it all together with the screws and liquid nails. We recovered most of the tools including a torch. Thanks for the memories.
You can buy steel wire panels which will give a lot of protection. Not to mention with a build like this, they could even come in at a later date and add some decent steel plate to the inside and thus space out their costs.
I really appreciate the level of detail in this build. As a home inspector, many defects come from the original builders and, of course, lack of maintenance, etc.
No doubt that flame paint works well. However, the flame was held less than half the time on that board than the naked one. Would love to see an apples to apples comparison done
that flame test was 1,800 % invalid,I just made that number up. but seriously though on the untreated board he held a torch for about 4 seconds but on the untreated board he held the torch for about 4 seconds
And the flame was held 4x farther away from the treated board than it was from the un-treated board. The bright blue flame cone was almost right up against the un-treated board, and on the treated board the bright blue part of the flame cone was held much farther back. Easy to see on a rewatch of the video.
I had all the same thoughts. Though, the way fire suppressing materials work is to make flames go out faster. If they had two torches running the same time side-by-side (on vertical boards), you should see both boards catching fire. The difference is that one would go out and the other would continue to burn. At the very least, one would burn less and at a lower temperature. It's not fireproof. It's just meant to reduce damage...or buy you time.
Either you have absolutely nothing better to watch, or you're secretly hot for these dudes but there's one thing that's certain which is that you have horrible taste in video content. TH-cam should charge him to stream this video. It would've been hilarious to have an ad pop up every 2 minutes. You should think about it for your next video. Title it ultimate test of subscriber loyalty. Lmao. I can't with you rn.
FLAME TEST, the flame was on the untreated piece almost twice as long as the treated. Would have liked to see the flame on the treated a little longer.
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This should be called “Check out the house Ty is building”. Only 3 min of the vault room? That’s kinda why I clicked on the vid. Please show when finished if you can.
There's a lot of hating going on in the comments. Just want to say that I appreciate you sharing your knowledge for FREE on the internet even though half of these people don't deserve the free lesson. Building community is full of 'experts' apparently who know everything.
WOW this is one hell of a builder. Look at all the attention paid to details. Ty must be charging hefty for his services. I've never seen a builder that does this kind of quality work.
If you are going to go with wood framing, then a good idea is to horizontal drill the studs and insert some #3 or #4 rebar every 8 inches or so. sandwiching hog panels into the wall can also help.
Great video Matt! I am on my first semester on for construction management and your videos and examples are so easy to understand and memories. Thank you so much for your hard work!
We did a similar vault, except we used 3/4" plywood with a layer of Hardie board between the sheathing and the studs. In the event of a saw attack the Hardie board should dull a wood cutting blade pretty quick. Closed cell foam in the wall. We use two sheaths of 1/2" plywood with Hardie board in the middle. 6 deadbolts and a piano hinge, swing out. Covered that with a standard door with a key lock, to reduce visibility.
Very impressive. His attention to detail is spot on. Now, we do things a tad different in the Midwest. (I and a couple of other builders do anyway) Because it's pretty standard to have a basement here. But I know a good build when I see one. And that home is beautiful already! Very nice insulation detail where the AC unit will be. And man that's Funny, I use the same horse shoe shims from barwalt! Or contractors direct. Works great for windows and tile. Lol! Crazy! And I thought I was the only one who regularly uses those for purposes other than tile spacing. I love the premium Doug fir he's got there. And copper flashing! And though I prefer to liquid flash everything I can, nice job with the Zip flex from what I can tell. And thank you for liquid flashing the concrete to your zip sheathing! I do like the caulk tube for that detail. Any gaps at all can be addressed easily and much less mess than the sausage gun. It sould really be a standard to liquid flash that transition. IMHO. The "safe room" is a neat concept. We build a ton of them. Usually a very, very heavy "steel reinforced" (not your average rebar) concrete though for us. 8 bag mix with fiberglass as well. I really enjoy making those an extremely concealed part of the home. Anyway, great job on the build so far Ty! And thanks for taking us along for the show Matt! 👍
Matt, I dont know if you know this trick, but if you put 4-6 inches of pea gravel in the walls, it makes the walls pretty bulletproof as well as pretty soundproof. Very heavy though.
FishFind3000 it was shorter, but a good intumescent coating applied at the proper thickness can act as a 15 minute thermal barrier. Just as good as 5/8 rock. I personally would have loved to see how long it stood up to that map gas a well.
@@FishFind3000 I have used intumescent paint on school jobs before, and painted some scraps with it and played with it at home, and if it's good paint, it does make a noticeable difference, though I agree that he made it look like a bad test here
It was definitely 25 percent less time on the intumescent sample. I've used this one theme park and theatre installs for many years. Not convinced it's worth the investment versus sheet rock in the grand scheme of things.
Yes. Matt is going to take a look at the Demo Ranch mansion. Matt Risinger posted it on his twitter twitter.com/MattRisinger/status/1158737360269561857
Cool stuff thanks for sharing! Nice to see spray foam insulation and some well designed and reinforced framing! The slackers that remodeled our house saw fit to attach stair hand rails into 1/2” drywall with a total of 6 plain wood screws (not even anchored)... guess how well that’s lasted!
Typical shoddy construction in all homes! I did one of my first commercial build jobs as a punch out carpenter for the company that built Motel 6 in the late 70's in Houston. I asked about he 2 x 12's in the bathrooms, and they said for every toilet paper or towel bar holder. Now they need to add for grab rails. When I spec them in my home now, I get arguments! Stupid idiots cannot be educated in S. Texas. Kudos to Voltaire for finding teachable guys
Any thoughts on using a shipping container as a vault/safe room? Figured if I ever built my home that my gun room/safe room would be the center of my home and everything else built around it.
How do you still only have 500k members?... As a 35+yr Austin native and being a native Texan, I stay impressed with every video you post. thanks Matt. !
2-1” thick, rated Sheetrock on the walls is what are found in elevator shafts for fire protection. If the owner wants to protect his/her guns that is what needs to go on the walls. The rock is finished with fire rated Sheetrock tape and the mud is also fire rated. Than intumescent putty pads are installed around metal outlet boxes and lights. The supply and return air need to be fire rated and they should close automatically in a fire. Some folks also install sprinkler systems. Finally, the best place to put a fire safe is either in the basement or someplace on the first floor. In a fire, the second floor always burns the hottest.
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I love your channel! So many new ideas and products. On the vault, it may be a good idea to dowel the walls with some rebar. The only weakness that I could see was fire, which was addressed and someone plunge cutting the wall with a chainsaw, making another door.
‼️‼️‼️. FOR YOUR “SECURE ROOMS” -->>. Add tons of scrap rebar inside the framed walls... run between holes slightly larger then the outside diameter of rebar allowing the rebar to spin if anyone attempts to cut with a saw . Horizontal runs and vertical runs placed in random locations with an emphasis toward areas do you think cutting will take place to permit entry. Also provide for shock and vibration detectors inside of the room wall..... Definitely run empty conduit and cable to the room from the main telecom or electrical utility area in the home. Provide for panic button, back up phone line, power for a spare cell phone, CCTV camera in the room as well as a monitor in the room to watch outside security cameras. Also, Fort Knox and liberty and I am sick and a few other manufacturers offer vault doors that look similar to the doors they use on gun safes they can be framed in and used as the primary room door and they’re not too expensive. Great videos. Thank you
RBAD RBAD you can also hang sheet metal over the framing, for sound proofing and to destroy the blade. Best to lock the guns up even inside the room. I do like the idea of a #5 rebar spinner.
I would want my "Safe Room/Gun Room/Storm Room" to be on the Ground Floor... so that even if the house is burning down, or a storm is tearing it apart, the room would not collapse... with me and Family inside. And after the danger has passed, we would have a safe exit pathway. Of course, THIS room may BE at ground level -- since location was not revealed. But I am just expressing a consideration I would have. Now... if you wanted a REALLY Safe room, you might just put in a room built with "Ram Earth" in an exterior corner of the house, and just cover the outside walls with the same siding as the rest of the house ... (smile)
Ground floor and not made of wood. People really underestimate how powerful a L-Ion chainsaw is. Ideal "Easy" safe room would be ground floor or basement. Walls made of rebar reinforced ICF maybe 6kpsi instead of basic 3k. Then get an acual security door rated for burglaries and fires. Ceiling should also be rebared concrete but i think steel plate is easier for a roof than figuring out how to build a mould for the concrete. Back the plate with aluminum/copper for abrasive resistance and heat resistance if you have the money to spare. The idea of safe rooms should be safe. Not a last resort "hide here and hope the killer doesnt find me and rape/kill me" Trapped rats are not safe rats. Shelter from storms would also be in mind. But if its in the basement, unless its a biblical tier natural disaster thats a moot point and you'd be better off building a seperate bunker anyway.
Fist off I'm just a wannabe construction guy but, IDK about the fire-proof coating 5seconds on untreated 3seconds on treated. That liquid-flash ROCKS!!
I found this house while looking for my next build a few years ago. HC sure off 1826. That’s all I’ll say. Very nice home. Somewhat secluded. It’s nice to see there are good builders out there. The production builders give the trade a bad name.
Not that I doubt the fire resistance on the paint but he did hold the flame on the untreated wood longer than on the treated wood. About 5 seconds on the untreated and 3 and 2 1/2 seconds on the treated wood. Just saying.
Is that fortified space the same as a “panic room”? When i first saw title and intermessent paint i was picturing more or less a fireproof gun vault.This seems much better though.Thanks
That flame retardant paint doesn't look at all like it's "keeping that heat from coming". The wood is clearly glowing under the flame (and under the coating). It looks more like paint that starves the wood of oxygen. Might seem like a minor detail, but if someone builds a house thinking this paint will keep a room cool in the face of a huge fire and then dies of heat and fume exposure, well that would kinda suck for them.
Ok, neat build BUT, a couple of things I see. 1) Steel will rot eventually. How long depends a bit on the environment and the material thickness. Stainless usually works better as long as it isn’t going to be submerged. 2) The gun room is slick but I’d be inclined to put some sort of reinforcement in the wall. Steel sheet or something along those lines. With a large budget, sheets of a nickel cobalt alloy as its harder for someone to cut through with average saw blades.
I want to separate my back porch attic (1200 sqft) and garage attic (900sqft) from my main living space. Do you have to vent the garage and porch attics?
Most buildings I work in that were previously government high-security buildings (Like Grumman in Bethpage NY where the build the lunar landers) have expanded metal behind the double 5/8" drywall so someone couldn't break into a wall with an Axe. I wonder if this would have been a more cost-effective option than all the wood. It's fun watching the cordless chainsaws.
@@pulaski1 I agree, I dont understand why people put in pocket doors. The amount of houses if been in when a pocket door is the bathrooms door is just weird
Thief kicks door and door doesn't move. Thief then kicks wall and wall doesn't move. Thief tries a crowbar that he brought with him and wall still doesn't move, but now his hands hurt. Thief leaves because he's making a crap ton of noise and wasting a whole lot of time. Some of these comments are from people who watch way too many movies, with fears of people breaking into the house carrying a magnetic base drill press, plasma cutter, and a carbide-tipped chainsaw they're going to use to go through the 12 foot ceiling from below. Be way more likely to just wait in the kitchen and take mom upstairs to unlock the door at gunpoint (or bat-point, or whatever) when the family comes home from the grocery store.
We use white intumescent paint here in NJ. Required on various exterior eve's and overhangs when near adjacent buildings. We're built so close together fire spreads quickly.
Adrian OCNJ yeah I rented a house in OCNJ once. Felt like you could lean out the window and reach into your neighbors house. Makes it easy to borrow some ketchup or an egg. Lol!
I'm visualizing the owner, coming across this video, he can recognize his yard, others will be able to also, and here you are fixing to show off his, (not so), secret room.
he literally said he got the homeowners permission to shoot the video... and good luck finding one house out of hundreds of thousands, if not millions... lol
Career finish and framing carpenter here... I’ve done a lot of NDA type work over my career... one of the coolest was an over the top safe room and basically entire homes exterior was sheathed with Kevlar panels... yes bullet proof glass for windows... the whole kit... safe room was on second level of home, entire floor, ceiling and walls were sheathed with multiple layers of the Kevlar.... access to safe room was a hidden hallway that had hidden access doors from the master bath and a hidden built in book case door in the main corridor of that part of the house (for the kids or guests). Once they were threw those hidden doors they could meet up in that bullet proof hallway to make their way to the safe room. If you think this all sounds ridiculous then your right... this clients “security” budget was probably more than the entire house in this video.
Like the channel even more now that I know you’re a Tundra guy too. I supercharged my 2012 and highly recommend that upgrade. Not super practical, but very fun when you want it to be.
You could kick through that with good boots. Plywood sheathing on both sides or even better, just fill the cavities in the interior walls with more 2x4's. You could probably do that without messing up the exterior of the closet walls. Then you're needing a chainsaw to get in. Drive 3 inch deck screws all into the 2x4's at random one a foot or so and cutting through will be fun.
Hey Matt you need to get in touch with Matt over at Demolition Ranch. He's got a project that you might be interested in. They have a place they started on in the Texas hill country.
I’ve always enjoyed the content of yours on IG but was completely unaware you had a TH-cam page, my TH-cam interest of firearms and construction/woodworking led me to find this video. Awesome content, great coverage 👏🏼
Well then they shouldn't have approved the video. (Which they did.) Besides, it's not exactly a SECRET. I mean, they've gone through no real length to obscure the presence of the space in the layout of the house. It's more a modest security setup for something you want to be hard for others to get to. It's not a panic room for a high-profile target or someone storing stacks of cash....
@@eugeniustheodidactus8890 I'm not going to speculate about where they are during the build; I couldn't possibly know. But Matt made a point of stating IN THE VIDEO that the homeowner gave permission for the video, so to your original comment I just don't see why they should be mad. I mean, I wouldn't have done it, but if they give permission then they shouldn't be mad.
Vault room at 12:30. Not much of anything though. Definitely not more than a slightly overbuilt closet with a steel door. Could be penetrated in under a minute.
"Steel" and "won't rot" do not belong together. I've seen steel that was rotted through and through. Even the thickest steel will last until it turns into FeO. Want a post that won't rot❓ Pony up some serious cash and use stainless steel.
Jason C. Stainless as well as aluminum self creates a protective layer. It will rust but not only the top layer and the rust wil stop. Not the same as steel. The steel rust just wil go on rusting.
We do a lot with an epoxy that has a long history of success in water towers, collection tanks, etc. A 2-part epoxy is as good as it gets for a moisture barrier. I think it would more than do the job for a number of years.
I wonder if that's going to be a frat house with all that soundproofing. I also wonder if Ty's in witness protection the way he's hiding from the camera.🤔😂
I didn't see any way of ventilating the room. Are they going to have an O2 supply inside? I'd also be careful about using sheet steel construction with wood. I can be inside that room in 30-60 seconds with the proper commercially available breaching equipment. Using plate steel with an actual plate steel door with steel studs in concrete would be better but being its on the 2nd floor is impractical.
Fire rating is well over an hour for this type wall. 2 layers 5/8 type x drywall and fiberglass insulation give you a 1 hour assembly. Adding rockwool really doesnt add extra, but the 1.125" sheeting adds about another 25 min burn through. The floor below will burn out before the wall. I would add some thicker chicken wire or some type of multi strand netting to stop a saw through (to stay on the cheap). As for phone and escape, this is a vault room, not a safe room.
I was in Construction for 35 years now retired Loved the outside initial tour Of the Costruction details its always nice to see DIYers doing things correctly even though i understand Tyler does have a builder on site its obvious he is very involved with understanding whats going on most homeowners dont have a clue on all the procedures I’m quite impressed on the overall build and the neatness of everything getting ready for a close in its great to see all the appropriate blocking as my official Trade was a Architectual Woodworking Installer for over 20 years and many builders either overlook or dont care about all those needs especially in. Stair railings and handi cap grab rails etc . When my sister and BrotherinLaw built their last home I reviewed prints and told them where to add all that i even offered to Install it for them if they bought the materials nobody then. Was physically handicapped then but with age it was needed and they always thank me for my help its basically life in general and now our Mom lives there and needs some of those grab rails for safety as i told them in the beginning for a few sheets of plywood and some extra 2x4 s its cheap insurance in the long run Similar things i see in Tylers house you dont get in trouble for over Engineering things its only when they aren’t Engineered enough and unfortunately even the Smartest Engineers and Architects dont think of everything because usually they dont build the Structures themselves A group of guys and women i worked with we all used to Conclude that a architect should be required to intern or work on a crew for a certain time frame as part of their schooling
You do know that. That guy he was talking to was the contractor!? Not the homeowner!!
I once examined a vault/safe room that bad guys spent over two and a quarter hours trying to enter when the people went out for two+ hours. As I recall, what saved the room was thus: from the outside..1/2" sheetrock, 3/4" plywood, old scrap chain link fence material inserted with 5/8"x2" space board at top and bottom, 3/4" plywood, 1/2" sheet rock. The 4' sections of plywood had about 80 2" screws each through plywood, chain link into plywood. There was some kind of liquid screw material in the chain link space. L sMetal straps screwed into the wall sections, wall top and bottom and bolted to the deck and ceiling. Old bank vault door in professional metal frame. The crooks obviously knew what they were doing and came with demo tools to do the job. They were good at killing the two alarm systems, thus giving them time to work on entry. They got down to the chain link in two places and drilled two 2" holes through the walls but even with getting a half" cable with 3"x1/2" bar at the end (couldn't figure how they fished it on the end) and they used something to attempt to winch the gvault wall because they tore up the top of the stairs top using it as the dead end. They even tried a chainsaw. No joy. The suspects had a vehicle parked in the woods back of the house and escaped when the owners returned. Wish I could say we caught them. The owner had two guys come out and it took a couple hours to repair the damage...good as new. I think it was the metal chain link holding it all together with the screws and liquid nails. We recovered most of the tools including a torch. Thanks for the memories.
You can buy steel wire panels which will give a lot of protection. Not to mention with a build like this, they could even come in at a later date and add some decent steel plate to the inside and thus space out their costs.
So someone shared the rooms existence and location from the build most likely...similar to this video
Ha yes! Now we all know this guy thinks he’s got a bank vault.
I really appreciate the level of detail in this build. As a home inspector, many defects come from the original builders and, of course, lack of maintenance, etc.
63 Year old retired contractor - I LOVE the Build Show! Well done Matt.
No doubt that flame paint works well. However, the flame was held less than half the time on that board than the naked one. Would love to see an apples to apples comparison done
that flame test was 1,800 % invalid,I just made that number up. but seriously though on the untreated board he held a torch for about 4 seconds but on the untreated board he held the torch for about 4 seconds
And the flame was held 4x farther away from the treated board than it was from the un-treated board. The bright blue flame cone was almost right up against the un-treated board, and on the treated board the bright blue part of the flame cone was held much farther back. Easy to see on a rewatch of the video.
I had all the same thoughts. Though, the way fire suppressing materials work is to make flames go out faster. If they had two torches running the same time side-by-side (on vertical boards), you should see both boards catching fire. The difference is that one would go out and the other would continue to burn. At the very least, one would burn less and at a lower temperature. It's not fireproof. It's just meant to reduce damage...or buy you time.
huge props to the owner and builder for letting you show us there home build .please thank them again sometime
Either you have absolutely nothing better to watch, or you're secretly hot for these dudes but there's one thing that's certain which is that you have horrible taste in video content. TH-cam should charge him to stream this video. It would've been hilarious to have an ad pop up every 2 minutes. You should think about it for your next video. Title it ultimate test of subscriber loyalty. Lmao. I can't with you rn.
Did they or did his buddy the contractor? Not sure why you would build a vault room and let anyone see it unnecessary to the build.
FLAME TEST, the flame was on the untreated piece almost twice as long as the treated. Would have liked to see the flame on the treated a little longer.
bcamk agreed, I was definitely disappointed with that test
The flame was much further away too. Hmm.
same thoughts :( ...teleshopping style at its finest!
hempcrete has that coating smoked :)
My thoughts exactly. Time to call project farm for a real and unbiased test. 😀
12:32 actual gun room part of video.
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Thx bro
This should be called “Check out the house Ty is building”. Only 3 min of the vault room? That’s kinda why I clicked on the vid. Please show when finished if you can.
Would someone be able to tell me who makes the door in video, or another comp without buying a safe vault door.
Exactly...
A.E. Smith tons of videos on youtube about companies. i just watched one that makes armored doors in dressers etc
There's a lot of hating going on in the comments. Just want to say that I appreciate you sharing your knowledge for FREE on the internet even though half of these people don't deserve the free lesson. Building community is full of 'experts' apparently who know everything.
Nice vault room. Do you have a link to the company that made the steel security door?
Of course not. They aren't sponsors. 😂
I know it is a little late ;-) but this appears to be a Browning V30 Vanguard Security Door
Am i the only one thinking he left the flame on the regular wood 2x as long as the treated wood? Lol
and from farther away
Or 3 times even
@@MrMagichobo21 yes 😆
Yep i saw that trickery also
WOW this is one hell of a builder. Look at all the attention paid to details. Ty must be charging hefty for his services. I've never seen a builder that does this kind of quality work.
If you are going to go with wood framing, then a good idea is to horizontal drill the studs and insert some #3 or #4 rebar every 8 inches or so. sandwiching hog panels into the wall can also help.
Awesome build. It's fun to see what you notice on a site. That house is going to be tip top.
I love listening to these guys nerding out on building. I wish I knew such knowledgeable and dedicated builders.
Builders like you are the unsung heroes.
Would like to have seen more content on the Vault Room. Video was more like a job-site inspection.
Really I'd love to see how that was framed
guy comes off like an ass, when you're on someone else's site let them give the tour...
I agree
Great video Matt! I am on my first semester on for construction management and your videos and examples are so easy to understand and memories. Thank you so much for your hard work!
We did a similar vault, except we used 3/4" plywood with a layer of Hardie board between the sheathing and the studs. In the event of a saw attack the Hardie board should dull a wood cutting blade pretty quick. Closed cell foam in the wall. We use two sheaths of 1/2" plywood with Hardie board in the middle. 6 deadbolts and a piano hinge, swing out. Covered that with a standard door with a key lock, to reduce visibility.
I'll get into that easily with a sawzaw. Carbide teeth I demo for a living. You ain't shit with your 3/4 ply. ! Sawzaw. Sledge hammer. I'm out!
Very impressive. His attention to detail is spot on.
Now, we do things a tad different in the Midwest. (I and a couple of other builders do anyway) Because it's pretty standard to have a basement here. But I know a good build when I see one. And that home is beautiful already! Very nice insulation detail where the AC unit will be.
And man that's Funny, I use the same horse shoe shims from barwalt! Or contractors direct. Works great for windows and tile. Lol! Crazy! And I thought I was the only one who regularly uses those for purposes other than tile spacing.
I love the premium Doug fir he's got there. And copper flashing! And though I prefer to liquid flash everything I can, nice job with the Zip flex from what I can tell. And thank you for liquid flashing the concrete to your zip sheathing! I do like the caulk tube for that detail. Any gaps at all can be addressed easily and much less mess than the sausage gun. It sould really be a standard to liquid flash that transition. IMHO.
The "safe room" is a neat concept. We build a ton of them. Usually a very, very heavy "steel reinforced" (not your average rebar) concrete though for us. 8 bag mix with fiberglass as well. I really enjoy making those an extremely concealed part of the home. Anyway, great job on the build so far Ty! And thanks for taking us along for the show Matt! 👍
I guess "Vault Room" means different things to different people. I thought this was going to be about a "Safe Room".
New subscriber, came here from “Off the Ranch”, really liking the content. 👍
Same here. I love it
same
Me too!
Pure joy to see such quality work. What a fine builder, Sir. Good Job.! I'm guessing the homeowner will not comply and hand in the ARs.
You got to have some guts of steel to have Matt Risinger come to look at your job site.🧐
LOL This dude looks like he built a solid home!
Notice he had his guys clean that site spotless. He knew he was getting YT famous.
Mr Reymundo I am a carpenter in Austin Texas and most of these custom builders keep a very clean site like this.
No his voice makes me wish he would visit while I had diarrhea. too condescending!
No not when your the guy he just got done with his work is tip top shape
cleanest, most organized job-site ever!
I mean... If you absolutely HAVE to say something nice, sure
Matt Another Awesome video
You mentioned you would put a link into a gun rack your familiar with?
Yeah Matt. Where's the link lol.
@@blazerman123200 Probably referencing this video: th-cam.com/video/ZfyOaHCLNw8/w-d-xo.html
Matt, I dont know if you know this trick, but if you put 4-6 inches of pea gravel in the walls, it makes the walls pretty bulletproof as well as pretty soundproof. Very heavy though.
Genius. Sand dampens sound the best, but gravel has the added ballistic resistance.
Funny you mention this....stay tuned for a Build Show on a similar topic soon!
@@saxonsoldier67 Could you not have some of both? Maybe using extra fine sand so it works itself in between the cavities left around the pea gravel?
@@bookcadenb4584 Matt is going to give us his ideas on this in a video, soon.
@@buildshow With enhanced sound from the guest maybe???
Seemed like he applied torch to untreated wood a bit longer than to treated.
W yea it was half as long.... that’s how they hide the fact it does nothing and your paying for it.
FishFind3000 it was shorter, but a good intumescent coating applied at the proper thickness can act as a 15 minute thermal barrier. Just as good as 5/8 rock. I personally would have loved to see how long it stood up to that map gas a well.
@@FishFind3000 I have used intumescent paint on school jobs before, and painted some scraps with it and played with it at home, and if it's good paint, it does make a noticeable difference, though I agree that he made it look like a bad test here
It was definitely 25 percent less time on the intumescent sample. I've used this one theme park and theatre installs for many years. Not convinced it's worth the investment versus sheet rock in the grand scheme of things.
Hey maybe some cheap rebar within the gun room walls ..would play hell with a chainsaw chain
Super cool build. Have you heard about Demo Ranch renovating his destroyed mansion? I believe he is also in Texas Hill Country.
DemoRanch is a clown, Matt is not.
@@jamesnj3454 Different audiences. Both are good guys. God Bless Texas!
Would be neat to see Matt offer his knowledge and expertise on the Demo Ranch home.
Yes. Matt is going to take a look at the Demo Ranch mansion. Matt Risinger posted it on his twitter twitter.com/MattRisinger/status/1158737360269561857
@@jamesnj3454 Not really. Demo Ranch is a put on Persona. Watch the Vet Channel
Cool stuff thanks for sharing! Nice to see spray foam insulation and some well designed and reinforced framing! The slackers that remodeled our house saw fit to attach stair hand rails into 1/2” drywall with a total of 6 plain wood screws (not even anchored)... guess how well that’s lasted!
Typical shoddy construction in all homes! I did one of my first commercial build jobs as a punch out carpenter for the company that built Motel 6 in the late 70's in Houston. I asked about he 2 x 12's in the bathrooms, and they said for every toilet paper or towel bar holder. Now they need to add for grab rails. When I spec them in my home now, I get arguments! Stupid idiots cannot be educated in S. Texas. Kudos to Voltaire for finding teachable guys
Any thoughts on using a shipping container as a vault/safe room? Figured if I ever built my home that my gun room/safe room would be the center of my home and everything else built around it.
Easier to build it with concrete blocks, poured solid.
@@CGoffgrid True but why not both? lol. Thanks for the reply, i do appreciate it.
Is there a follow-up video to this one? Like to see this gun vault room coming together.
How do you still only have 500k members?... As a 35+yr Austin native and being a native Texan, I stay impressed with every video you post. thanks Matt. !
2-1” thick, rated Sheetrock on the walls is what are found in elevator shafts for fire protection. If the owner wants to protect his/her guns that is what needs to go on the walls. The rock is finished with fire rated Sheetrock tape and the mud is also fire rated. Than intumescent putty pads are installed around metal outlet boxes and lights. The supply and return air need to be fire rated and they should close automatically in a fire. Some folks also install sprinkler systems. Finally, the best place to put a fire safe is either in the basement or someplace on the first floor. In a fire, the second floor always burns the hottest.
That builder deserves camera time! Great ideas.
Question "Matt, what is up with audio?" Answer: "I messed up! Will work on doing it right next time!" Matt, you are a great builder and a man of character! Thank you for your example.
Thanks for the grace Brother.
I love your channel! So many new ideas and products. On the vault, it may be a good idea to dowel the walls with some rebar. The only weakness that I could see was fire, which was addressed and someone plunge cutting the wall with a chainsaw, making another door.
‼️‼️‼️. FOR YOUR “SECURE ROOMS” -->>. Add tons of scrap rebar inside the framed walls... run between holes slightly larger then the outside diameter of rebar allowing the rebar to spin if anyone attempts to cut with a saw . Horizontal runs and vertical runs placed in random locations with an emphasis toward areas do you think cutting will take place to permit entry.
Also provide for shock and vibration detectors inside of the room wall.....
Definitely run empty conduit and cable to the room from the main telecom or electrical utility area in the home.
Provide for panic button, back up phone line, power for a spare cell phone, CCTV camera in the room as well as a monitor in the room to watch outside security cameras.
Also, Fort Knox and liberty and I am sick and a few other manufacturers offer vault doors that look similar to the doors they use on gun safes they can be framed in and used as the primary room door and they’re not too expensive.
Great videos. Thank you
just do a concrete wall, not expensive at all, although you should do it on ground floor for weight concerns
RBAD RBAD you can also hang sheet metal over the framing, for sound proofing and to destroy the blade. Best to lock the guns up even inside the room. I do like the idea of a #5 rebar spinner.
Yes, this a great point!
I like that Build! very nice!
It's joy to see so clean building site. Filming day. I bet next day everything was back to normal.
This guy is a good honest builder.
I would want my "Safe Room/Gun Room/Storm Room" to be on the Ground Floor... so that even if the house is burning down, or a storm is tearing it apart, the room would not collapse... with me and Family inside. And after the danger has passed, we would have a safe exit pathway.
Of course, THIS room may BE at ground level -- since location was not revealed. But I am just expressing a consideration I would have.
Now... if you wanted a REALLY Safe room, you might just put in a room built with "Ram Earth" in an exterior corner of the house, and just cover the outside walls with the same siding as the rest of the house ... (smile)
It actually was revealed that it was up stairs. Plus the cam pans away and out the window you can see you are up in the air
Does make any sense being on second floor.
Should have had steel studs in the wall, not 2x timber - you can even buy them at your local big box store these days.
Ground floor and not made of wood. People really underestimate how powerful a L-Ion chainsaw is.
Ideal "Easy" safe room would be ground floor or basement. Walls made of rebar reinforced ICF maybe 6kpsi instead of basic 3k. Then get an acual security door rated for burglaries and fires. Ceiling should also be rebared concrete but i think steel plate is easier for a roof than figuring out how to build a mould for the concrete. Back the plate with aluminum/copper for abrasive resistance and heat resistance if you have the money to spare.
The idea of safe rooms should be safe. Not a last resort "hide here and hope the killer doesnt find me and rape/kill me"
Trapped rats are not safe rats.
Shelter from storms would also be in mind. But if its in the basement, unless its a biblical tier natural disaster thats a moot point and you'd be better off building a seperate bunker anyway.
Fist off I'm just a wannabe construction guy but, IDK about the fire-proof coating 5seconds on untreated 3seconds on treated. That liquid-flash ROCKS!!
Dig the video. Thanks for taking the time to get it out to us :)
I like Tyler's work. Looks well constructed for sure.
I found this house while looking for my next build a few years ago. HC sure off 1826. That’s all I’ll say. Very nice home. Somewhat secluded. It’s nice to see there are good builders out there. The production builders give the trade a bad name.
You need a mic for your guests. I could barely hear.
My bad. I’ll work on that
In case you missed it, Ty said "absolutely".
jay and silent bob
matt v just go for a new camera with a decent mic built in and a wider lens
matt v but you could hear though couldn’t you
If you double stud the walls and put 2 layers of 3/4 ply it’s a fema rated tornado room
Amazing. However, if I had the massive amount of cash it would take to build a house like that, I’d have a much larger gun room. 😜
@Matt what were you saying about mounting gun racks to the wall, started to talk about a link, but none is description.
Matt, wish you would detail spec the safe-room buildout
Anyone see that miter for the hand rail backing at 12:15... it’s open like an inch at the bottom!
SC_Pilot I saw that too, I looked back and it seems it was cut right, but had a sliver missing
Great builder, dang. Wish I had this type of quality in my home.
"We look like a huber commercial" Has Matt never watched his own videos lol
That's funny. And True. But hey..... A great product is a great product. What do ya do?!! 😂
I see this is two years ago, is there an update? Would love to see the finished product.
Matt went from Tyler to Ty real quick 😂
He makes friends quick lol
And i went from watching to... Well not watching
Wow! Awesome build!
Qs: Ventilation for this? Ability to call out for help from this room?
Is that an old school drafting table I see at 7:50 ?? 😉👍👍
Not that I doubt the fire resistance on the paint but he did hold the flame on the untreated wood longer than on the treated wood. About 5 seconds on the untreated and 3 and 2 1/2 seconds on the treated wood. Just saying.
Is that fortified space the same as a “panic room”?
When i first saw title and intermessent paint i was picturing more or less a fireproof gun vault.This seems much better though.Thanks
That flame retardant paint doesn't look at all like it's "keeping that heat from coming". The wood is clearly glowing under the flame (and under the coating). It looks more like paint that starves the wood of oxygen.
Might seem like a minor detail, but if someone builds a house thinking this paint will keep a room cool in the face of a huge fire and then dies of heat and fume exposure, well that would kinda suck for them.
Responds well to flame/heat?
Ok, neat build BUT, a couple of things I see.
1) Steel will rot eventually. How long depends a bit on the environment and the material thickness. Stainless usually works better as long as it isn’t going to be submerged.
2) The gun room is slick but I’d be inclined to put some sort of reinforcement in the wall. Steel sheet or something along those lines. With a large budget, sheets of a nickel cobalt alloy as its harder for someone to cut through with average saw blades.
I want to separate my back porch attic (1200 sqft) and garage attic (900sqft) from my main living space. Do you have to vent the garage and porch attics?
Most buildings I work in that were previously government high-security buildings (Like Grumman in Bethpage NY where the build the lunar landers) have expanded metal behind the double 5/8" drywall so someone couldn't break into a wall with an Axe. I wonder if this would have been a more cost-effective option than all the wood. It's fun watching the cordless chainsaws.
A metal box would be better fire protection as well
I’d have pocket doors everywhere if I could. Some automatic with the Star Trek sound. 😉
Pocket doors are _terrible,_ unless you want a doorway with no door, ..... in which case "no door" would be a better choice.
@@pulaski1 I agree, I dont understand why people put in pocket doors. The amount of houses if been in when a pocket door is the bathrooms door is just weird
Would like to know the brand of the security door.
Thief kicks door and door doesn't move.
Thief then kicks wall and wall doesn't move.
Thief tries a crowbar that he brought with him and wall still doesn't move, but now his hands hurt.
Thief leaves because he's making a crap ton of noise and wasting a whole lot of time.
Some of these comments are from people who watch way too many movies, with fears of people breaking into the house carrying a magnetic base drill press, plasma cutter, and a carbide-tipped chainsaw they're going to use to go through the 12 foot ceiling from below. Be way more likely to just wait in the kitchen and take mom upstairs to unlock the door at gunpoint (or bat-point, or whatever) when the family comes home from the grocery store.
We use white intumescent paint here in NJ. Required on various exterior eve's and overhangs when near adjacent buildings. We're built so close together fire spreads quickly.
Adrian OCNJ yeah I rented a house in OCNJ once. Felt like you could lean out the window and reach into your neighbors house. Makes it easy to borrow some ketchup or an egg. Lol!
Matt, how does the tile roof hold up against hail? How big does the hail have to be before it starts damaging it?
Hi Matt, can u please provide a link to that security door
I'm visualizing the owner, coming across this video, he can recognize his yard, others will be able to also, and here you are fixing to show off his, (not so), secret room.
he literally said he got the homeowners permission to shoot the video... and good luck finding one house out of hundreds of thousands, if not millions... lol
What type of spray foam do you recommend for a unvented attic in a Florida one story new construction. Thanks
Career finish and framing carpenter here... I’ve done a lot of NDA type work over my career... one of the coolest was an over the top safe room and basically entire homes exterior was sheathed with Kevlar panels... yes bullet proof glass for windows... the whole kit... safe room was on second level of home, entire floor, ceiling and walls were sheathed with multiple layers of the Kevlar.... access to safe room was a hidden hallway that had hidden access doors from the master bath and a hidden built in book case door in the main corridor of that part of the house (for the kids or guests). Once they were threw those hidden doors they could meet up in that bullet proof hallway to make their way to the safe room. If you think this all sounds ridiculous then your right... this clients “security” budget was probably more than the entire house in this video.
Like the channel even more now that I know you’re a Tundra guy too. I supercharged my 2012 and highly recommend that upgrade. Not super practical, but very fun when you want it to be.
Good to see Sierra Pacific Windows installed. Best windows on the market.
Hey Matt, is it possible to put a link to the security door. Thanks.
Wife has been wanting me to build a closet into a "gun locker" how does cement board liner with security door sound in a already existing closet?
You could kick through that with good boots. Plywood sheathing on both sides or even better, just fill the cavities in the interior walls with more 2x4's. You could probably do that without messing up the exterior of the closet walls. Then you're needing a chainsaw to get in. Drive 3 inch deck screws all into the 2x4's at random one a foot or so and cutting through will be fun.
Link for the security door? Or brand name?
Hey Matt you need to get in touch with Matt over at Demolition Ranch. He's got a project that you might be interested in. They have a place they started on in the Texas hill country.
Matt is going to take a look at the Demo Ranch mansion. Matt Risinger posted it on his twitter twitter.com/MattRisinger/status/1158737360269561857
I’ve always enjoyed the content of yours on IG but was completely unaware you had a TH-cam page, my TH-cam interest of firearms and construction/woodworking led me to find this video. Awesome content, great coverage 👏🏼
Could you please put a link to that security door? That is really cool!
What is the make and model of the vault door shown near the end of this video?
I have never seen modern ceiling framing like @ 9:47. Really nice work.
Very impressive details man. Outstanding work 👌
*Home owner should be seething mad having his secret gun room on display for the world!*
Well then they shouldn't have approved the video. (Which they did.) Besides, it's not exactly a SECRET. I mean, they've gone through no real length to obscure the presence of the space in the layout of the house. It's more a modest security setup for something you want to be hard for others to get to. It's not a panic room for a high-profile target or someone storing stacks of cash....
@@think_ffs3934 The owners are probably in the med for the summer! They aren't looking at nor approving risinger videos.
@@eugeniustheodidactus8890 I'm not going to speculate about where they are during the build; I couldn't possibly know. But Matt made a point of stating IN THE VIDEO that the homeowner gave permission for the video, so to your original comment I just don't see why they should be mad. I mean, I wouldn't have done it, but if they give permission then they shouldn't be mad.
I like his gunvault but I would have had a hidden door that matched the walls, which can be used for a safe room as well for the children.
Which chemical is used for waterproofing?
Vault room at 12:30. Not much of anything though. Definitely not more than a slightly overbuilt closet with a steel door. Could be penetrated in under a minute.
"Absolutely" a great video
What’s your opinion on fire proof plywood?
"Steel" and "won't rot" do not belong together. I've seen steel that was rotted through and through. Even the thickest steel will last until it turns into FeO. Want a post that won't rot❓ Pony up some serious cash and use stainless steel.
All metals corrode. Except Gold.
Jason C. Stainless as well as aluminum self creates a protective layer. It will rust but not only the top layer and the rust wil stop. Not the same as steel. The steel rust just wil go on rusting.
We do a lot with an epoxy that has a long history of success in water towers, collection tanks, etc. A 2-part epoxy is as good as it gets for a moisture barrier. I think it would more than do the job for a number of years.
Where does one find the door that is being used for the gun room?
I wonder if that's going to be a frat house with all that soundproofing. I also wonder if Ty's in witness protection the way he's hiding from the camera.🤔😂
Would painting the studs around the gun room and the Advantec with the fire paint be overkill?
Chris Evenson not really
I didn't see any way of ventilating the room. Are they going to have an O2 supply inside? I'd also be careful about using sheet steel construction with wood. I can be inside that room in 30-60 seconds with the proper commercially available breaching equipment. Using plate steel with an actual plate steel door with steel studs in concrete would be better but being its on the 2nd floor is impractical.
Have you ever used LP legacy subfloor?
Fire rating is well over an hour for this type wall. 2 layers 5/8 type x drywall and fiberglass insulation give you a 1 hour assembly. Adding rockwool really doesnt add extra, but the 1.125" sheeting adds about another 25 min burn through. The floor below will burn out before the wall. I would add some thicker chicken wire or some type of multi strand netting to stop a saw through (to stay on the cheap). As for phone and escape, this is a vault room, not a safe room.