@@granniefromky asking someone to call the police are you calling the police and it's a false charge whoever makes the complaint should be charged for false emergency if they asked to do then one asked should be arrested as well
"The threat was taken seriously by one of the named victims who was upset, distressed, and scared enough to tell her parent who, in turn, brought it to the attention of the school administration."
@@RichardRiley-hq4xoLiterally.. too many people call the cops for the stupidest stuff. I literally has some lady call the cops on me for taking the trash out.. I almost died laughing cause it was just so funny to witness someone freak out over this 😭
I think there will be plenty of people losing sleep over the law suit. And they should. There are so many things wrong with the way this was handled that it's hard to comment on it.
it a firm of speech just like flipping the bird _ protected by the constitution. just like stupidity which way too many exercise on a daily basis _ is also protected by the constitution.
A public school betrayed a child who had been bullied by another student by calling the police to handcuff and arrest her? That is horrifying to all parents..
Yes, when you say it that way, it is scary, but think about this... How many times did the little girl tell her mom the bully was harassing her? Why didn't the mother talk to the school about the bullying before the girl was so stressed out that she drew the picture? When my daughter was 12 she had a boy threatening her if she wouldn't be his girlfriend and I was at the school demanding a conference with the boy's parents and told the boy's father he would have a sexual abuse case on his record if the father didn't stop the boy from bothering her. I told them all, principle, parents and teachers, I'll have the cops and newspaper at their door if they allowed this boy to continue intimidating my daughter... So where was the mother of the girl?
"She was handcuffed, arrested, and transported to the police station. Without letting her speak to her mother" In other words, this 10 year old girl was unlawfully arrested for no crime and kidnapped.
I would have lost my mind! I promise they would have had to arrest me because I would have hurt someone and it would not have been my child! How dare they!!!!!
Makes me wonder, since it was said, that the complaining parent ( the one who insisted on the police being called) was being difficult, just what statis she had in the community.
This is when the police should say "Ma'am, we are going to arrest you for filing a false police report, and harassing a minor" this is the worst thing I've heard in a while!!!!
The cost of responding to trivial reports that aren't actual emergencies or crimes should also be charged to the person who called. The crazy mother should have to pay for expenses and damages related to her demands. And others who held responsibility in the situation should share in the costs as well. People have a tendency to make much better decisions when they are held responsible for their actions. And a tendency to make very bad decisions when they know they won't be held responsible for their actions.
Some cops in Hawaii are not well-known for having normal sanity and competency. Remember the cops set up a road block on the only escape route to stop people from escaping the Lahaina fire? Only those went around the road block survived. Woman Claims Police Trapped People Inside Maui Fire Calls For Criminal Lahaina Fire Investigation !!
Drawing the picture was her way of working out her frustration with being bullied. If it was my daughter I would have demanded the school do something about the bully that caused the whole situation to begin with.
Yeah.. Not gonna work. As a parent to a (now) talented and smart young woman, who was bullied constantly in schools, and not just from other students, but I witnessed a special education teacher attack my daughter out of nowhere in the hallway as I came around a corner. That teachers long and sharp nails left my daughters arm bleeding and it was scarred for years. My daughter was in Kindergarten at that time and I ran to her, pushed the teacher away and told her to never even look at my child again. I immediately went to the school office and filed a complaint, they asked if I wanted the cops called, I said yes as my Kindergartener had been assaulted by an adult teacher, was bleeding, scared and crying. The cops never showed up. I had to go in to the police office and press charges against that teacher. Nothing was ever done to that horrible teacher! Last I knew she was still allowed to teach! That traumatized my child for years, and even into High School, she was afraid of teachers, so it seriously damaged her mentally, emotionally and physically as well as due to that assault, my child was always afraid of teachers then on. She's even still traumatized to where she's afraid to attend college! Some people shouldn't be allowed to exist, in this case, those that didn't do a damn thing to protect my child and other children, and that teacher.
This is a prime example of how they ONLY EVER punish victims of bullying and NEVER the bully. These people should all be sued into oblivion! That was blatant psychological and emotional abuse. The handcuffs for no reason was assault. Arrest for no reason was kidnapping.
I don't know why this incident angers me, it's of the world and the world knows not justice, wisdom, or love. These things belong in God's realm and if that's what a person wants, then turn to Him. Thant's the only realm where peace, love, kindness and forgiveness lives.
There sadly above the law and can get away with anything. Only civilians are incriminated. They wanted to humiliate and terrorize the child. Which is completely allowed if your above the law
No they didn’t, and shouldn’t. Whoever called the police, on the other hand, should be charged with whatever it’s called when you falsely report a crime, and the idiot snowflake of a parent who started this whole thing should be severely reprimanded and fined and forced to issue a public apology.
@@Shadowkey392 No... Shadowkey.... This was literally kidnapping. Does not matter who does it. If they had also raped the child would that have been ok, too? No, not at all. Cops are NOT above the law. They did not have probable cause to arrest this child. If anything this would have been considered a civil matter.
In a nutshell, a girl that is being harassed by a bully. The bully goes free and no charges. And the victim goes to jail. The police department and police the school district needs to get their checkbooks ready. This is gonna get crazy.
"It wasn't even the child depicted who lodged a complaint nor their parents." The police are clearly hiding a TransNationalist at that school who is in serious need of deportation. They are not the rightful Progenitors of this nation nor should they be hiding behind children. Which Nation is offering the bounty? Make sure the Governor is alerted. (When you stop hiding diplomats at schools then assassins stop showing up)
@Michael Ward That's not too far from the truth: Once your child is born and you "REGIS -tered" your child's birth with the government, it belongs legally to your government, of which police and school teachers are an extension. That's also how come they can force you to ensure, that your child goes to school. You actually need permission to home school, for example. And the child's social security number will show up on bills of your country's currency, as all the citizens are the backers of the currency with their ability to work. This subject goes much further still...
@@Pharesm You only need their permission in some states in the US. In many you file a notice with them, not a request, and in some you don't even have to notify them. So I will assume the rest of your comment is about as well researched.
@@Elucidus4 I can't see the context because it doesn't show my comment in the side bar. What was this about? And don't assume things, that's always a stupid move. But I guess you got an attitude, and attitude generally requires unsupported assumptions.
@@Pharesm Yeah the guy called your emotional stupidity out. There might be 1% of these threads that even know enough about the law to speak here. Not all states require permission to home school, and Americans are not government property. In case you've never read it try The Constitution.
Oh, this is just the tip of the iceberg. Cops have arrested children for throwing a baby carrot. Cops have arrested children for spitting. Cops have arrested children for riding bicycles. After a report that 3 students *may* have purchased some drugs, 40 Georgia Deputies and the Sherriff descendended on a school and searched every single student, including having male cops go under the bras of females, some without even using gloves. Remember, there are no good cops. There are only bad cops, and bad cops who couldn't take it anymore and swallowed a bullet.
Well Hawaii is a Democrat stronghold. Have you noticed 100% of their policies are upsidedown and backwards? Doesn’t surprise me one bit that they’d do something like this. I’m surprised they didn’t release a serial killer to make room for this dangerous 10 year old
That is Only a civil suit.. ( still needs to be done ) Suing the school ( that mishandled the happening to begin with ) Suing the Police with Wrongful Arrest. Endangerment of a minor
@@chucksmoko5348 they are all civil, that's the only form of lawsuit a private individual can file. You can request criminal charges be filed, but that's all on the district attorney, they get the only call on wether those charges are filed. This however should be referred to the district attorney's office. This is a violation of the first (a drawing is constitutionally protected, doesn't matter what it contains), possibly the 4th, definatly the 5th, possibly the 6th, definatly the 8th ammendments. All of which are federal crimes, and the police would have no protections under qualified immunity for violating constitutional rights.
Especially since it was the anonymous mother's kid who was bullying. The blinders on some people. How far up your own posterior does your head have to be so you think you're always in the right?
@@ianbattles7290A picture of a “graphic depiction” of a figure holding a gun with a severed head at its feet, accompanied by threatening phrases, including, “Stand down B**th”, “Yo F**kin days are over NOW”, and “Fake to me and DED!”
The angry parent probably is a rich member of the community and of course they get what they want. Everyone involved that violated the childs rights should be arrested, sued and fired period. Disgusting.
While that may be true on paper, the arrest, interrogation, coerced confession and conviction of Brenden Dassey seems to suggest it's not always true in practice.
Unless that child does a drawing - then the full force of the law, the school. and the fury of another parent must be visited upon this obviously criminal 10-year-old girl. Sarcasm. We are living in la-la land without any doubt - protect your children - the present education system is dangerous for your little ones, don't leave them to fight a lonely battle against the powers that be. Take them back home, protect and guide them.
@@ladybug591 Indeed, for heaven's sake, what country/state do you live in (and ended up in) where a 10-year-old child is treated in such a traumatizing and unlawful manner in this way and for such an absurd reason. My 2 cents from Belgium.
I always thought home schooling was an insane thing to try and do but imagine your child not only being bullied but being kidnapped and the teachers not only let it happen but essentially orchestrate it with the help of a stranger.
This recently happened to my son. We removed our son from the school. They told me I must understand because of “the times we are living in”. I told the cop that times change but unless laws do, they have their parameters. Threatened lawsuit sighting our civil rights, cop left abruptly.
There is a difference between a minor and a child. This is clearly a over-reach of police here but their could in fact be cases where it is rightfully so a cause for arrest giving a violent crime being committed. The gap between a ten year old and a 20 year old is leagues apart. I assume a minor is under 21 in the US.
I agree - the original bully should be the only one punished. I would like to see the drawing in we question. I was bullied: when I was eleven years old my family moved to a new neighborhood. There was a family of bullies nearby & I was called names. I did make friends with other kids, but the bullies got other kids to chime in & I felt pretty miserable in the new school. Finally, when I was 13 one of the bullies slugged me in the face. This was the best thing to happen, because it forced me to fight. I ended up with a black eye, but won the fight. I heard from a friend that the bully was at the neighbor park the following night & warned people about me, that I might get pissed off & kill someone. Anyway, I was always tall & strong for my age & should not have taken crap in the first place. I guess I was just eleven & wanted to make friends in the new neighborhood. The bully I fought ended up playing college football & told me he had an offer to play professional football, but didn't think it was worth it. Maybe football players didn't get paid as well in the late 1970's? I heard that he died, EMS was called but he was too large to get on the gurney & died. Anyway, that's my story. I would like to add that the new school principal did not want me back for eight grade. The English teacher acted like a woman & was obviously homosexual, one of the other kids would turn around & look at me laughing- I would then start laughing & the whole class would start laughing. The teacher would then send me to the principal's office for disturbing the class. My parents told me years later that the gym teacher stuck up for me. I wonder if the principle was homosexual too? I have read that many school teachers are traditional homosexual. I think this is relevant to what's going on today with the school boards.
@@RainbowManification INDEED ! . . . Power IS Corrupting . . . hence a civilization has a profound duty to hold those in whom it entrusts authority to a Very High Standard and to maintain a system of checks against the corrosive nature of these powers.
@@chamberizer more often than not the bullying goes both ways. The drawing could be considered bullying even if it was as a response to the behaviour of the "original" bully. Sometimes kids make up stuff to avoid punishment of some shit . It is often hard to get to the bottom of the bullying at school, kids are still learning social skills. I have a hard time imagine that a kids drawing would warrant an arrest - disturbing sure - discussion and perhaps discipline., but getting the police involved was sheer incompetence and definitely an overkill.
This story is one of the most infuriating stories that I ever heard. I swear to god if that ever happened to any of my kids I would spend every penny I’d ever make in my entire life to make sure that the cops, the administrators of the school, and the city are held accountable for this BS
@bunkstagner298 ummm you'd have a second mortgage for the house you signed over in asset forfeiture. This is criminal in nature, no child should be neglected let alone arrested and forced to endure such torture by cops AND THE SCHOOL BOARD. because of their neglect.
Wow, that poor girl is traumatized for life. They all not only should be sued but arrested for constitutional rights violations, endangering the welfare of a child, kidnapping, unlawfully detaining a child, and failing to let her mother talk to her or be with her during interrogation. The bully should be thrown out of school. The school board should formally apologize for this happening. This is so appalling.
pulled from an article 'The ACLU also wants the town of Waipahu and the state of Hawaii to compensate the mother and daughter for their pain and suffering, to the tune of $500,000. The attorney general’s office tells the AP that they are working with the Department of Education to respond to the letter by the ACLU’s Nov. 8 deadline.'
Agreed, it's about scale. You make a big deal about something small, now I'll make a gigantic deal about that. Sometimes scorched earth the only way to get a point across.
Parents, please inform your children if they are held and questioned by police officers, school staff, or CPS that they should NEVER talk to them and request a lawyer IMMEDIATELY! Tell your children to REMAIN SILENT, ALWAYS! Tell your children to request their parents and a lawyer, no exceptions. Tell them under NO Circumstances to answer ANY QUESTIONS. This is utterly ridiculous and unprofessional!
It was illegal for the police to handcuff & arrest the 10 year old child, unless she had actually violated a specific articulable law, and if one or both parents were present. This is insane!
@thomas - Your words are strong, but we are small & weak & working & have tremendous responsibilities & our economies are fragile & we might let our anger get out of hand, defending your child or my child, and before long we're standing before a judge and getting sentenced. Boldness of purpose does NOT always pan out in the best possible way, especially in the case of the average person with average income & time to get involved. It simply sucks. .
@@david77james You are what you want to be. If you just want to be someone who is small, weak and only surviving, that is all you will achieve. Unless you aim for far more, you will never get more than that. Aiming just to survive is what brings you to a state where you own nothing and are 'happy' about it - after all, you have at that point succeeded in what you aimed for, which is just surviving. Anyhow, on a more positive note, if ever you wish for more, don't bother trying to change the world, but instead focus on changing yourself, becoming greater than the challenges we face. There is an immense amount of great stuff you can do to develop yourself mentally, physically and spiritually, but you need to go out of the box to really win with any of that - something practically no one is willing to do. Once you master yourself, you master the world around you (I am not fully there yet, but the more I progress the clearer this becomes). Anger works poorly when you turn it against others, but it works wonders when you turn it against yourself: ask yourself why you (and your children) are still being so victimized - what can you do to better adapt. Anger at yourself will push you to go out of your comfort zone and make the effort needed to make difficult changes that target the root of the problem rather than the surface / short term easy fixes. In any case, if your life is full of suffering and getting worse, this tells you that you are on the wrong path in life and that YOU need to change and better adapt. The suffering will only increase so long as you are on the wrong path. If you see your life getting better and better, then you know you are doing something right - keep thinking about this and the world will give you the tools you need to change yourself.
@@thomastolbert6184What exactly are we supposed to say? And “ stand up”- by doing what? I honestly would like to know what you’re suggesting would help?
@@icu3869 ,you should let your voice be heard! Don't protest by screaming at me on the net! Do you have enough friends to overfil the police station? This is why they are taking your guns so you will have to say ,"oh but those cops have guns an I am afraid"! They only do this crap legally in North Korea And China, this was a child and the parents have a legal court case. If they let it slide it will become normal! If the entire town gets a class action law suit for millions of dollars it will set a standard and won't happen often.sounds like the police force is all bullies and will only get worse if nothing is done.
The judge that catches this case should issue bench warrants for all the cops, school officials, and the complaining parent. Then let them sit in a cell for three days. This is outrageous.
@@brkbtjunkie This is why emotional goons should shut their trap. It's like the word treason. The left claims every right winger is a traitor, not even knowing the definition of the word, when in fact they voted in a traitor named Joe Biden.
@@lescobrandon8045 Well, if you want to get technical about it... Joe Biden is not a traitor. Donald Trump is not a traitor. Barack Obama is not a traitor. George W. Bush is not a traitor. Hillary Clinton is not a traitor. Michael Flynn is not a traitor. None of these people are traitors because none of these people have committed treason. Turns out that treason (the only crime defined in the US Constitution) isn't an easy crime to commit. For one thing, an American is only able to commit treason when the US is in a state of declared war. This means that no American, name anybody you want, *NO AMERICAN* has committed treason for over 75 years. Anybody who has committed treason against the United States is either dead or really old. Joe Biden is old, but not that old, unless you want to claim that he committed this particular crime when he was *two.*
This child’s family needs to sue the complaining parent for the emotional distress they have impacted this child with, the school for their negligence in caring for and protecting the child and the police for the assault and emotional abuse they committed against that child. ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING!!! freedom of speech
I disagree. I believe_and I'm sure many people agree with me_ that there is nothing in this world more dangerous than a ten year old child because every crime that has been committed from the start of civilization to now has been done, if not directly by a Ten Year Old Child; then by someone who had at some point been a Ten Year Old Child.
This is Hawaii. Totally gone if you want freedom. I don’t think they realize that the bidens love China and it’s RIGHT THERE ! I’m not sure I I want to spend money on bailing them out
I agree I would sue the living piss out of them after I won the criminal charges and there is no such thing as qualified immunity it does not exist in law it is color of law the supreme Court made it up out of thin air without any prior case to base it on and then dumped it on we the people like we're supposed to comply with whatever they say is being low and it is not I know that I didn't consent to the supreme Court creating tyranny in my country and that's what it is it creates tyrants out of Judges prosecuting attorneys and cops they all become tyrants they think they can do whatever they want and can't be prosecuted well that's not true qualified immunity is not law it is color of law just like codes ordinances and statutes I stand on my constitutional rights and I stand with God God gave us our rights and our federal government back in the day recognize those rights as well and wrote it into the constitution of these United States which is the law of the land anything else like codes ordinances statutes policies and qualified immunity are all just color of law and they will not stand in a court of law you cannot be prosecuted on those things because they are not law
I think anything a minor says to the police without an attorney present and without parental consent must be considered obtained under duress and inadmissable in court
The principal and vice-principal should be arrested on federal child abuse and endangerment charges and barred from ever working with children, the cops should be suspended for abuse of power, and the complaining person should be charged with filing a false or capricious report.
This should happen, but the parent who started it has no legal problems. They complained, and nobody needed to accept her complaint. She got others to do the dirty work so since she took no action other than to complain, she really doesn't have any legal responsibility. Just like the picture would, and should fall under freedom of speech, so does her complaining. The problem was when people took action. BTW not a lawyer, not giving advice. (Edited misspelled word)
So, let me get this straight. The school admin couldn't understand the problem, the attending police officers couldn't understand the problem, yet they still saw fit to arrest, handcuff, detain a 10yr old child and deny her access to a competent adult supervisor/parent for any questioning? Then the mother isn't allowed to see her child because she might beat her, on what grounds did they make that leap of logic on? The vice principal kept her in the office because she had fire in her eyes? If it was my kid the fire would have been boiling there blood from a 100 paces, so of course there was fire in her eyes! Seriously what the actual fuck?
Incorrect. They understood the problem. The child committed a crime. A threat. Threats are not covered under free speech laws, and are illegal, whether spoken, drawn, or written, even if by a child. On the drawing was a shooting with the words "your days are done." The law did exactly what the law was supposed to do. Thank goodness.
@@timinator20o0 You are wrong. There was no threat. There was no crime. The school administrators, the police, and even the complainant did not describe any crime. All the "adults" onsite even admitted to that. This was just a Karen weaponizing the school and the police against an innocent child just because they were "offended". At any time anyone onsite could have stopped this travesty but didn't because they just wanted to pass off responsibility to someone else. All involved should lose their jobs and the idiot who made the call should be sued into homelessness for this incident
Which means that Karen should be ARRESTED for making a false police report. Because that is what this ultimately is. There was NO reason or excuse to drag the police into this over a PICTURE.
thats exactly what i was thinking, the karen should be identified and have her face all over the news,let the other parents see this liberal for who she is.i smell a huge lawsuit in the making,but sadly the TEN YEAR OLD KID WILL NEVER FORGET THIS.
THIS is EXACTLY what you get when you allow RELIGIONS... ALL "RELIGIONS" and a "MILITARIZED POLICE FORCE" and an ever more "CONSERVA-F**KER POLITICAL CLIMATE/SOCIETY! ALL Of these things combined have created/allowed for this!
I'm old, back when I was in school, we handed bullies differently. I put up with a bully for years, one day I couldn't take it anymore and put the bully in the hospital. His mother came to the school and asked who beat up her son, looked at me and said, with shock, "did you beat him up"? I said, yes, she said," it's about damn time", walked out and that was it. We were friends till the day he died.
LOL, nothing that impressive but I was in 1st grade and my bully was in 4 or 5th grade ( do not remember). Dude had a full on foot over me and some weight. I put up with it for nearly an entire year. One day on the way home (we walked the same way about 1/2 the distance) I had enough and smacked the due upside his head with my metal lunch box. About 2 hours after I got home the police showed up, took me in the back of the police car and my mother to the bully's house. The bully's mom was pointing at me yelling he did it,,, he did it. Cops looked at me, then at her kid and laughed in her face. LOL At that point they asked me why I did it, and I explained his bully BS for the last year. We drove away and I never heard about it again. It it had not been the 80s, I'd of probably gotten in real trouble.
I experienced much of the same. I was bullied every day. The bullies were praised for looking cheerful and polite around teachers and principals. I was horribly punished for being angry and complaining about the bullies, even told that I should feel sorry for the bullies because they had a hard home life. And people wonder why bullied kids don't want to tell their teachers.
"i don't give a flying fuck about their 'hard home life', they are giving me a hard school life right now and either you are going to stop it or i am. choose wisely."
The worst thing for me was I got bullied at home by my alcoholic stepfather and my co-alcoholic mother and then I would go to school and get bullied by the kids and even a teacher or two
I am so sorry that you had to go through that. We had a similar situation with our daughter. She was constantly bullied in elementary school. The school did NOTHING as the bullies were excellent students and favorites of the administration.
Don't forget they are curious little souls, and some of them pretty dark. We old ones tend to underestimate their sophistication of a 10yo. these days.
Is this bad ? While I disagree with moral-crimes, I do agree, that laws should be equally enforced. In a Proper legal system age is just a number. Same goes with sanity, "traumatic" backstory, "emotional" eceptions and "socioeconoomy". The definition of crime is the problem, not the euql enforcement.
@@Ribulose15diphosphat crimes designed to go against the rights of the people, is by definition totalitarianism. The bill of rights is now criminalized by big brother. More thought crimes in 1984. Orwell got the year a bit wrong.
Its strange because its must fall to guardian/parent responsibility because its guardian/parent fault if they commit crime because they don't educate their children... do you expect 10 y/o know a law like adult ?
Wait till you hear the hundreds of cases where they strip "search" minors and then gag order the parents to keep the story from being told if you think handcuffing Is bad how would you feel about a stranger undressing a child ....ive even heard cases of men "searching" little girls it's always swept under the rug some how
The Vice Principal and by extension the Principal should not be allowed anywhere near children for allowing this to happen ... I hope that that family is set for life fianancially at least when this is over and the officers responsible fired for their absolute lack of judgement and knowledge of the law
I have worked construction in schools; some of those minors were a lot bigger than me so it depends on the child, and their behavior towards authority figures. A calm 10 yo is over the top.
Brings back a bad memory: 1964, 8th grade. I was bored in class, so I was sitting there amusing myself by drawing a monster. I probably had a smile on my face because I liked drawing them as silly as possible - lots of eyes, warts, the works. Suddenly Sandra asked me if the drawing was of her. I was so shocked that she would think such a thing that I just stared, speechless at her. I had always been nice to the girl. Why would she even think such a thing. Next day I was called into the guidance counselor’s office. I did not even know why until the woman started lecturing me about my cruelty. The irony of it all was this. This same woman had been my geography teacher only a year earlier. She had allowed the kids in that class to laugh at my speech and southern accent throughout every oral report all that year. Finally one day she had given a little speech about the lack of industry in the south. She explained this by saying that the closer you get to the equator with its warmer climate, the slower the intelligence. The whole class turned around in their seats, looking at me in the back row and laughing. And she had the nerve to give me a ten minute lecture about cruelty. My only regret is that I never did tell Sandra that I would never have treated her that way. I was too outraged about the whole ordeal.
Wow thats disgusting, im sorry that happened to you. Im guessing you moved to a northern state. As a yankee myself what they did to you was disgusting and i would say that those who treated you like that should not be throwing stones at glass houses when they say that southerners lack intelligence cause they aren't proving themselves to be intelligent either. these people would hate it if southerners did what they did to you to them. People need to treat other they way they themselves would want to be treated.
@@sarahvincent2305 actually, we moved from Alabama to Oklahoma when I was seven and I guess the accent (plus my quirky, high-pitched voice) was an irritation to this particular teacher. Most other teachers were very nice. This particular teacher had marched in the Selma, Alabama marches back in the earlier racial unrest. She and one other teacher (my third grade teacher) incorrectly assumed all southern-born people and I were racially prejudiced. Every relationship I had had in my upbringing with black people had been friendly and positive. My parents were very kind, polite people and if I had ever displayed any sort of unchristian, haughty attitude, they would have corrected me quickly.
@@snakeslayer831 I think the poor girl assumed such a thing because she was very poor, shaky and nervous, wore thick-leaned glasses and was used to being treated horribly…but I would never have mistreated her and was outraged that she thought I would. If I’d done the right thing I would have reassured her that I would never have treated her badly, but instead, like a dumb kid, I just sat there staring at her in consternation.
Who was pointing a gun at the head of the police officers and forcing them to make this arrest??? Because it seems like these were adults with free will and discretion who CHOSE to arrest this kid...
The school officials hands were "not tied," they were just stupid and failed to take proper leadership. Are you surprised in this radically leftist controlled governments?
@@boreddude3898 I worked in law-enforcement for a while. I left because of some of the stupidity I encountered. Not all officers are bad guys, but there are some of the people pulling their strings who are genuine bad guys. I didn’t want to be in that environment. And I find it absolutely disgusting that officers actually fell for this and arrested that child in such a manner. In my opinion that counts to child abuse and no one with a badge should ever be guilty of such a thing. What happened to that badge meeting being held to a higher standard?
The fact that the teacher and principal let this get to the point where the kid was arrested should be enough to fire them both! Just pathetic and child abuse!
The thing I find interesting here, is that everyone (including the school) admitted the other child was bullying. Why weren't they disciplined for bullying? So they were telling the rest of the student body that it's OK to bully, but not to try and cope with the situation. That's messed up.
Fully agreed. When this fact is coupled by Karen parents with matching kids, you have a very real possibility for a bully to not just evade any responsibility, but turning the entire process into yet another tool for bullying. And that is a premise we should absolutely not allow to happen. it's crushing for adults when the police get weaponized via false/overblown accusations - for small kids? We're talking life-long mental trauma in all due likelyhood, if not worse.
That’s what you would think. But then you realize the girl who was arrested was black and it starts making sense. Black people are mistreated in this country and Hawaii is no exception. There is no way police are handcuffing a little white girl and taking her downtown without her parents regardless of what was drawn. It’s textbook discrimination.
In middle school I was obsessed with dragons and Dante’s the inferno. I drew Chiron as a dragon with “abandon all hope ye who enter here” in a banner above it. One of my bullies took my sketch book, found the sketch, told the teacher, and I was sent to the office. My mom was called and I was threatened with being expelled due to the “danger’ I posed to the class and the student who stole my sketch book due to the depiction of “hell” and “demons” (this was not a Christian school). I had made the choice to give up art all together as I kept having to hid my art book or risk it being stolen and defaced. But when my mama showed up all hell broke lose. Her argument was that it was my property and a good drawing and no one should have seen it without my say. She then threatened to take me out of that school and press charges for unjust expulsion when I was the one who was wronged. No one was depicted in the drawing and it’s just a mythical creature in a mythical setting and no one is being threatened by the drawing other then one student who found it “scary”. She then said I will be taking the rest of the week off school, she took me for ice cream, bought me a new book and video game, and she is the only reason I still do art today. That day was the first day I saw my mom so angry that she didn’t even have to curse or yell. everyone in that office shook before her might. I realized at that moment my mom was a total badass and I gained a whole new level of respect for her. 20 odd years later, and that old battle axe is still a badass and still encourages me to make art. I hope the little girl in this situation doesn’t give up on doing what she likes just because of some Karen and her bratty crotch spawn.
so, apparently this was a drawing of the artist depicting herself holding a gun, with the severed head of the bully at her feet and the line "these fucling days are over" under it. its not just a drawing of generic dragons and gore with a edgelord comment under it. it was a direct depiction of violence against a specific person
The adult who called the police should be arrested for making false charges, child endangerment, and probably some other charges I don't know about. I hope that girl isn't too traumatized.
As a public school employee I am so disapointed in all adult behavior in this situation. This child and parent deserved better. I hope she takes it to court
@@aaron75fy I agree with you. What I mean is that this got way out of hand. I was a primary school teacher (I think that's elementary school over there) and would have handled this in the classroom. Finding out what was going on. Calling out the bullies and emphasising that it is not OK to bully and sending the bullies to the office. Of course, things are totally different here in Australia than in the USA. I was just appalled that the cops were even called. As for the parent who didn't like the drawing, I think they need to see that their child is a bully.
When my daughter was in middle school a student In her classroom had their home broken into and robbed. She told some of the kids in her class that if her house was broken into her dad would take his sword and kill them. I was called into the school and found myself confronted by the principal, Vice Principal, school counselor, teacher and the school police officer. After a brief discussion I said that I do have an old cavalry sword and kids say dumb things and this is a waste of all our of time. The teacher then said that we take threats seriously. I said first of all my daughter did not threaten anyone and I’m not a moron, if someone broke into my house and threatened the life of my family or myself I would just shoot them. I then explained that is any of you harass my daughter over this I will sue the hell out of you. I started to leave when the police officer said I have a few more questions for you. I said then you can arrest me and I can answer them at the police station with my attorney. I walked out and never heard another word about it.
I remember when I was 12 I'd been relentlessly bullied by a couple other girls and when we got our yearbooks I drew all over the photos of their faces. They heard about it from someone i showed it to and went to the admin to try to get me punished. Their response? "She drew on your faces in her own yearbook? Sorry it's her book she can do what she wants with it." I guess that was back when school admin had a smidgeon of common sense to use.
Well, you know, we’re surrounded by a society filled with snowflakes. Apparently hurting people’s feelings is now an actual crime, as ridiculous as that sounds. Equally snowflake-like are our “law enforcement” - police, prosecutors, and judges. Yes, they get butthurt by someone voicing their opinion and they just can’t take it. So they go out for blood. Yes, folks, American society is filled with snowflakes, from the kids in schools to the judges on benches, to their Orwellian police departments that go waaaaaaaay overboard in their response to everything. So basically, we no longer live in a free society.
I just looked up this case. The 10:year old girl was the only black child involved in the drawing and was disabled (ADHD). " Despite the city attorney pushing hard for the dismissal of individual HPD defendants in a December hearing, insisting that the officers were acting under risk of terroristic threatening, Judge Gillmor refused to dismiss the police officers from the suit, confirms that there was no probable cause for the child’s warrantless arrest while also dismissing the officers request for qualified immunity, writing that “the drawing is a simplistic cartoon-style picture by elementary age students”, and officers should reasonably not have considered the artwork terroristic." Really? The drawing of a ten year old was "terroistic threatening" but you didn't actually charge her- but released her without charges after four hours of questioning - without a guardian, parent or lawyer present?
The fact that the word ‘terroristic” could be associated with a ten year old in a school. Tells us why we should never entertain visiting this god forsaken country.
no, the mother can say whatever she wants, if she didn't call the police herself she isn't at fault. however the school should have said they won't, and to tell the mother to call 911 if she believes she is in danger. telling someone else to do something is still free speech, unless you incite violence. 7:10 Steve says exactly what i mean right here
@@DanielPhillips-ny5sf By punishing your child? What bad would that do to the criminals? Why would they stop after? why another school won't do the same? Suing the school would be much better.
@@Starteller I would sue the school and every individual involved, but my primary objective is to ensure none of them can ever impact my child again in any way.
@@kimberlyrichardson5943 Sounds like it was healthy for you. You drew your emotions onto paper. You didn't act up on them. Most therapists would say that was an appropriate response for a 10 yo
Imagine getting a call from the police saying they arrested your kid. Freaking out and hauling ass to the station, leaving work all over a drawing? Time to swing by a lawyers office, contact the ACLU, and take the kid out for ice cream. I smell a pay day, a delicious one.
The parent who called the cops should be charged with a false call. My guess is that parent is wealthy and/or powerful in that community. Thus the principal and cops did what that woman wanted.
@@FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker But the question remains, why were the cops called at all? Over a drawing, for fuck's sake? That screams of sway in the community. I mean, how hard is it really to say "Ha, sorry... No, I'm not doing that to a child over a sketch. Call them yourself if you're that wound up about it." Idiots do dumb things based on their own idiotic motivations. It's the weak that do what they're told when all instincts say it's wrong.
Definitely the parent that told the school to call the cops had better be charged and sued first but also the school and the police. And the cops involved should be fired and not allowed to serve in any law enforcement again. The principal and vice principal should be dismissed and lose their teaching degrees
This incident reveals a far greater problem than a drawing. Everyone of these so call professionals should be fired. Our public school systems are in need of restructuring.
@@toriless Nope. It's the job of the schools to respond to the public - which means parents. Parents are always demanding that schools do what they want, and schools give in and get sued into oblivion when they don't. The "karens" are you - people just like you. You have exactly the schools you deserve. They are a product of you, people like you, and this society. Soak in it.
"Police arrest her despite the fact that she's cooperative ... and poses no threat..." - Let's not forget the most salient detail: _no law was broken._ Arrested for what? For *not* breaking the law?
Arrested because apparently it's school policy to arrest any child that any parent asks to be arrested. Somehow. That logic though the victim's mother should be allowed to have the school call the police to arrest its own administrators for having her child arrested. At least that would be in regards to a violation of a right.
@@Elliandr Getting facts straight is part of where this fell apart. At no point did he say the parents asked the school to arrest the child? (please time stamp me if I am incorrect), but that "the police be called". The police used the tactic of acting like any other option was out of their control to coerce the compliance of the student and the school.... "That logic though the victim's mother should be allowed to have the school call the police to arrest its own administrators for having her child arrested." Right but again. that's not how is happened according to what we both just watched... The story beginning at 8:25 stands to show the situation is much more complex as there is a history of what appears to be Borderline Personality and Complex PTSD at work in at least one of these families, and that component obviously caused a situation that was out of the control of... probably everybody but at accomplished Doctor of Psychology. But really... how offensive was this picture?
I suggest you do a search for "HPD: Threatening Drawing Of A Gun And Severed Head Led To 10-Year-Old’s Arrest". I've quoted part of the article for you here but note that drawing a gun and severed head with a threat probably does constitute a call to HPD (the article is in the Honolulu Civil Beat Newspaper) But Vanic made clear HPD has a different perspective on the incident. “To be clear, the ‘drawing’ was a graphic drawing of a girl holding and pointing a gun with a severed head at her feet,” Vanic said. “Your client also wrote a clear message addressed to two classmates by name, using foul language: ‘Stand down B**ch! Yo F**kin days are over NOW’ and ‘Fake to me And DED.'” Vanic also said that it was “extremely misleading” for the attorneys to characterize the drawing as an “offensive sketch of a student.” “A threat to shoot and kill another student is, and must be considered to be, ‘a threat of significant harm to someone,’ which you acknowledge is something officers could arrest a student for on school property,” Vanic said. “Thus, the arrest of your client on school property is consistent with your own assessment of the situation.”
My daughter was getting bullied in HS. We repeatedly reported it. I got called in saying 3 of her bullies reported that she had a hit list and was planning a school schooling. Good trick when there were no guns in our house. Anyhow…. They claimed she had all the plans in her black notebook and they saw her writing them. I got her to pull it out. It was her sketch pad for advanced art evening class she was using per her shrink to keep her anxiety calmed down. Her teachers and guidance knew a out this. Administration was going to put this all in her permanent file and make her take anger management. I told them if they did anything of the kind they’d be hearing from my lawyer and from the local newspaper and stations. Had a similar chat with those kids’ parents. I don’t play.
You actually think doing that is protecting your child? At that point you should be getting violent. Anything less is disrespectful towards your child as well as yourself.
This is insane. No one, aside from the mother of the arrested girl, showed even the slightest bit of common sense in this situation. If THIS is what passes for rationality and good judgement, we are in the middle of a full-blown national crisis.
Hey retard do you even know what qualified immunity is...this violation isn't covered under it dumb@ss qualified immunity does not cover a violation of civil right stupid. Officer should be fired and sued federally
@@j.s3612 Of course it is because it shows a serious lack of judgement, knowledge of the law as ones in power and sheer stupidity. Maybe the last one isn't a legit one but works for me.
My elememtary teacher said about drawings that take this and bring it back with your fathers signature. My friend draw d pic and was horrified to show that to his father. So he erased the pic and draw another. Got the signature. Erased and draw the original pic back on. Genius
If I was arrested for every dumb drawing I made to cope with my feelings as a child I probably wouldn't be a full time illustrator now. You'd probably be rich off of just mine alone lol.
It's not even restricted to kids that young. I remember when we were first learning about WW2 as teenagers half the class was drawing swastikas. Of course, that was before we fully understood what it represented, we were just drawing a shape we saw in a book.
Unfortunately, no. It's up to the POLICE to determine if a crime was committed; In this case (like SO MANY OTHERS), it wasn't. Imagine THAT; Expecting the Police to actually KNOW the LAWS they are paid to enforce.../S (You literally have ONE JOB!) Imagine a mechanic that doesn't know how to remove a bolt...?
@@brentfarvors192 No it's much more simple than that. Police can arrest you (period). It is up to a court of law to determine whether that arrest is valid.
@@brentfarvors192 Yes, it is their responsibility. If they don't follow the law, they are only protected by the b.s. rule of qualified immunity, which needs to be eliminated.
@@colinmaddocks9352 Oh please! People have been claiming that nonsense since before the civil war. There's no end of days forthcoming. There is either the end of authoritarian systems for the betterment of mankind, or there is abject fascism, which would be the end of freedom.
What's so infuriating is the total lack of consistency. This girl is outrageously punished, yet we see instances all the time of bullies beating up other kids, often several big kids against one smaller kid, and they get zero punishment.
@@cataliaishere If you watch the video: It was not the bullies(!) parents. It was an unrelated party. Let’s be real: if my child bullies someone and gets a drawing (from a ten year old!) that doesn’t depict them nicely… how could I NOT be mad at my child for being a bully. Make them apologize and nicely ask if they could get rid of the picture. Let it be a life lesson not to hurt others, because it might just come back to hit you. How and why would you ever stand up for bad behavior? And involve the cops in children‘s everyday life. Child’s push and hit and say mean things every week. Do we open child prison centers next to school? The schools would be empty in half a year. But not even! It was a third party! Lmao, sue them to hell. School, staff, police, parents and everyone else involved. Hope the child gets out without too much trauma.
Sorry to tell you this.. Was Plenty of Craziness in the schools and school systems in the 60's and 70's and I'm sure Always has been and likely always will be
Some big tough guys tried to jump me when i was sick once, i ran at them with booger hands and the figs ran off and got ME in trouble. Or this other times a short person got mad at me so i had to kick him off of me. Edit: This happened around 2005 to 2006 in commiefornia.
@@MrBOB39 Yes, even though I didn't live through the 60s and 70s, I like to remind people of how crazy things were back then - Race riots, race wars, civil war, extremely violent protests, Vietnam!!
100% not a police matter. If any one out there, managed to get through their grade school years without either seeing a drawing or making a drawing, that in adult world could be considered at worst a threat, then that person failed to be a part of their scholastic community. The child who made such a drawing should be commended for finding a benign way to express their own feelings. The person who reacted negatively to such a drawing should be encouraged to take an art history class. Understanding the language of images is as important as understanding the language of literature. The vice principal who called the police needs to be immediately dismissed. If you were kind enough to read to the end of my post, then you’ll know this one really got under my skin.
When concidering the level of psychological harm of being handcuffed, arrested and interrogated without a parent. I think the actions of the school administration and the police in this case would qualify as child abuse and possibly harassment.
@@aa-oc1hr Point I was making, state authority & school officials have always been abusing their civic trust in protecting children in the public school system. My mom drag us children to a Baptist Church ( Dixiecrats) that tried to make me believe my grandparents were going to hell cause they were Catholic and Lutheran, coming up with some excuse to paddle me once or twice a month for contradicting or correcting my elders/ adults. Children were to know their place.
Yes. Also at Germany minors until 17 years has to be interviewed by camera-footage and with at least one part of parents. If police officers do not comply to this law: court dismisses case and police officers are disciplined or gets a criminal lawsuit.
Even IF a real crime was committed, THE COPS CAN'T TALK TO YOUR KID WITHOUT A PARENT or LEGAL GUARDIAN.. Let me rephrase that, THEY CAN'T INTERIGATE A MINOR WITHOUT PARENT, GUARDIAN OR LAWYER PRESANT..
The amount and severity of protocols broken were staggering. If there's not a parent because of suspicion of some kind of abuse(not even sure where they'd get that from) there still needs to be someone present who is *not* law enforcement, such as an attorney or a representative social services. At this point, I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if some kind of abuse of that child happened.
@@bvrsqzr3569 Actually, no, they cannot. The parent MUST be notified of expulsion, threats or any harm to the student. I work in a school district, this is policy by the National Board of Schools.
@@kriswingert1662 thats nice I was a police officer for over 20 years. Yes we can talk to and arrest a child without their parents. All we had to do was personally contact the parent at some point. We can even take them to a juvenile detention center without their parents. The whole needing parents is a myth started by people like you who don't know the law.
@@JakXLT for one i stated i don't know about Hawaii. You obviously don't know how to interpret that rule you just posted. Guess what it actually backs what I said. Good try. Also cops aren't sources for law they enforce the law. On another note a court rule isn't law. You'll need to refer to Hawaii revised statutes. Let us all know how it goes.
The very same thing happened to my niece. Her parents were over an hour away at the time and when they reached the police station, she was still cuffed to a bench. For over an hour. She was already a very anxious and introverted child. It's amazing she turned out to be a productive, happy adult. Therapy, of course was a must.
As a retired police officer all I can say is shame on those police officers for arresting that little girl. Not only did they not exhibit common sense, they lacked the courage to simply refuse to accede to a ludicrous demand. I have to believe that they violated internal regulations regarding the treatment of juveniles, not to mention that making a physical arrest for an act that isn't even a crime goes beyond the pale.
My relative was going arrest murder but cause she was gay his captain told him bury it cause gays don't murder and judges throw book at males cause she was gay
Police forces everywhere are being filled with officers that don't know the law. I have a hard time believing its not a deliberate plan to destroy the public's faith in the police. I watch a lot of police auditor channels and its a rare delight to see a cop acting professionally. All too often they believe that the badge makes any order they give lawful.
I'm no friend to the Police, but I do find a lot of their problems stemming from that court case that exempts people with high IQs from joining the Police Force. If you hire a bunch of Forrest Gump's, then you're going to get higher crime rates, since the cops aren't smarter than the criminals. Also, if we have a Police Force that only follows orders, we are going to slide into a Police State, much, much quicker.
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The woman that called the police should be arrested for false emergency
She didn’t call the police, she told school officials that she wanted them to call the police, which apparently they did. Smh
DEFINITELY AGREED 1000%!!!!!!!!!!
@@granniefromky asking someone to call the police are you calling the police and it's a false charge whoever makes the complaint should be charged for false emergency if they asked to do then one asked should be arrested as well
"The threat was taken seriously by one of the named victims who was upset, distressed, and scared enough to tell her parent who, in turn, brought it to the attention of the school administration."
@@RichardRiley-hq4xoLiterally.. too many people call the cops for the stupidest stuff. I literally has some lady call the cops on me for taking the trash out.. I almost died laughing cause it was just so funny to witness someone freak out over this 😭
The parent that wanted the cops called needs to be sued too !
NEEDS TO BE IMPRISONED
I think there will be plenty of people losing sleep over the law suit. And they should. There are so many things wrong with the way this was handled that it's hard to comment on it.
Protect your children. Society is a dumpster f**e
Karen mom? No way….
DEFINITELY AGREED 1000%!!!!!!!!!!
The parent who called the police should be investigated by CPS and a psychiatrist.
The cops too, they're either crazy or you live in a police state.
@@DioBrando-qr6yeHawaii, so yes a police state. When he said "honolulu" I instantly understood the overreach
i would'nt trust cps one bit either
This is what happens when no one has the guts or balls to say no
@@DioBrando-qr6ye Blue state, police state, they're the same.
The police officers involved should be charged with false arrest. Violating a constitutional right can bring criminal charges.
it a firm of speech just like flipping the bird _ protected by the constitution. just like stupidity which way too many exercise on a daily basis _ is also protected by the constitution.
A public school betrayed a child who had been bullied by another student by calling the police to handcuff and arrest her? That is horrifying to all parents..
Portrayed,,Not betrayed.
@@MrCountrycuz no betrayed
not just for parents - imagine the stress the whole ordeal is causing to the poor girl!
Exactly. This incident would drive me, the victim, to now have to exact real revenge, and not simply draw it.
Yes, when you say it that way, it is scary, but think about this... How many times did the little girl tell her mom the bully was harassing her? Why didn't the mother talk to the school about the bullying before the girl was so stressed out that she drew the picture?
When my daughter was 12 she had a boy threatening her if she wouldn't be his girlfriend and I was at the school demanding a conference with the boy's parents and told the boy's father he would have a sexual abuse case on his record if the father didn't stop the boy from bothering her. I told them all, principle, parents and teachers, I'll have the cops and newspaper at their door if they allowed this boy to continue intimidating my daughter...
So where was the mother of the girl?
"She was handcuffed, arrested, and transported to the police station. Without letting her speak to her mother"
In other words, this 10 year old girl was unlawfully arrested for no crime and kidnapped.
I would have lost my mind! I promise they would have had to arrest me because I would have hurt someone and it would not have been my child! How dare they!!!!!
Makes me wonder, since it was said, that the complaining parent ( the one who insisted on the police being called) was being difficult, just what statis she had in the community.
Don't know Hawaii, but that is the law in NY.
I was under the impression that child trafficking was a felony...
The school is technically guilty of kidnapping the mother, by not letting her leave the room they had her in.
Arresting a 10 year old for a non violent offense is insane. All of the adults in this situation really screwed up here.
There were no adults in this situation, only Democrats!
It's also a complete waste of tax payers money.
@@bobbys4327As a Brit, I can assure you that all of you are insane.
There was no offense committed here; only a Karen who was offended.
Abuse of power.
It breaks my heart to see how society still takes the side of bullies. This shows how abnormal or sick society truly is
This is why public schools need to be outlawed
AGREED
The entire government is totally corrupted
This is when the police should say "Ma'am, we are going to arrest you for filing a false police report, and harassing a minor" this is the worst thing I've heard in a while!!!!
The cost of responding to trivial reports that aren't actual emergencies or crimes should also be charged to the person who called. The crazy mother should have to pay for expenses and damages related to her demands.
And others who held responsibility in the situation should share in the costs as well.
People have a tendency to make much better decisions when they are held responsible for their actions.
And a tendency to make very bad decisions when they know they won't be held responsible for their actions.
All you need to do is too name the complainant… with her address. Promise you that the anonymous “mother” who started all this crap would STFU…
Yep, I'm going after the parent who insisted that the police be called over a non crime.
I blame the cops for not knowing better.
@@jamesbell1613 the school should have known better as well.
I question the sanity/competency of any police officer who would arrest a child for drawing a picture.
Cuffs?
I worry that the child may be arrested again for drawing a pig when the teacher asks every student to draw a police officer. 😅
Some cops in Hawaii are not well-known for having normal sanity and competency. Remember the cops set up a road block on the only escape route to stop people from escaping the Lahaina fire? Only those went around the road block survived.
Woman Claims Police Trapped People Inside Maui Fire Calls For Criminal Lahaina Fire Investigation !!
@@simon6071 Hahahahahahah
@@normac9531
I would like to hear Mr. Lehto's point of view should such an arrest happens.
I hope Mr. Lehto would not just say , "Hahahahahahah".
Drawing the picture was her way of working out her frustration with being bullied. If it was my daughter I would have demanded the school do something about the bully that caused the whole situation to begin with.
What, are you crazy??? That's LOGICAL!!!!
@@josepherhardt164 Yup.... that would be going to the source of the problem... much too logical.
Time to drop in on the classrooms parents.
Her mother didn’t do a darn thing, period. Her mother most likely was and has bullied the girl since birth.
Yeah.. Not gonna work. As a parent to a (now) talented and smart young woman, who was bullied constantly in schools, and not just from other students, but I witnessed a special education teacher attack my daughter out of nowhere in the hallway as I came around a corner. That teachers long and sharp nails left my daughters arm bleeding and it was scarred for years. My daughter was in Kindergarten at that time and I ran to her, pushed the teacher away and told her to never even look at my child again. I immediately went to the school office and filed a complaint, they asked if I wanted the cops called, I said yes as my Kindergartener had been assaulted by an adult teacher, was bleeding, scared and crying. The cops never showed up. I had to go in to the police office and press charges against that teacher. Nothing was ever done to that horrible teacher! Last I knew she was still allowed to teach! That traumatized my child for years, and even into High School, she was afraid of teachers, so it seriously damaged her mentally, emotionally and physically as well as due to that assault, my child was always afraid of teachers then on. She's even still traumatized to where she's afraid to attend college!
Some people shouldn't be allowed to exist, in this case, those that didn't do a damn thing to protect my child and other children, and that teacher.
The proper authority over a 10 year old girl is the mother and father.
This is a prime example of how they ONLY EVER punish victims of bullying and NEVER the bully. These people should all be sued into oblivion! That was blatant psychological and emotional abuse. The handcuffs for no reason was assault. Arrest for no reason was kidnapping.
I don't know why this incident angers me, it's of the world and the world knows not justice, wisdom, or love. These things belong in God's realm and if that's what a person wants, then turn to Him. Thant's the only realm where peace, love, kindness and forgiveness lives.
@@anonnnnnsh If it didn't make you angry there'd be something wrong with you. That little girl didn't do anything to deserve that.
Big brave cops, handcuffing a ten year old..
I feel soooo much safer knowing they are there looking out for our safety... 😮
Amen!!!
Absolutely.
It is ILLEGAL to interrogate a minor without a lawyer present . Sue the city and then the police officer.
The parent or legal guardian and layer have to be present.
@KirkHermary not nessesarily true. Ohio, Texas, Florida, California, and New Mexico to name a few.
That is what we always heard but they interrogated our 11 year old son without a parent or representative in Northeast Arkansas.
@@dalesnyder1753 Yeah it's completely state dependent.
Does freedom of speech not apply to children ?
The police ABSOLUTELY COMMITTED KIDNAPPING AND SHOULD BE CHARGED FOR kidnapping amongst other chargers!!!!
There sadly above the law and can get away with anything. Only civilians are incriminated. They wanted to humiliate and terrorize the child. Which is completely allowed if your above the law
No they didn’t, and shouldn’t. Whoever called the police, on the other hand, should be charged with whatever it’s called when you falsely report a crime, and the idiot snowflake of a parent who started this whole thing should be severely reprimanded and fined and forced to issue a public apology.
@@Shadowkey392 No... Shadowkey.... This was literally kidnapping. Does not matter who does it. If they had also raped the child would that have been ok, too? No, not at all. Cops are NOT above the law. They did not have probable cause to arrest this child. If anything this would have been considered a civil matter.
@@Shadowkey392 The police choose evil over good. That makes them monsters.
@@attackerangel2951exactly right.
Holy crap, the uninvolved parent who called the police is biggest entitled Karen I've ever heard.
I hope the mother of the 10 year old falsely arrested sues the schools
It's the police officer who should be sued.
She did
The woman who demanded to call the police and the school officials who called the police should be charged with filing a false police report.
She didnt file police report, she is crazy, but the school did call them.
She should also be charged with child abuse. Absolute witch.
That’s so sickening! She is a victim of bullying and the cops do this to her!!!??????
Poor baby was probably so scared . Bullying needs to stop!
When an adult does it to a child I think that’s abuse rather than bullying.
This would make me afraid to call the police in the future
What a day at elementary school for a 10 year old. Get bullied, then handcuffed and arrested, then have your rights violated.
In a nutshell, a girl that is being harassed by a bully. The bully goes free and no charges. And the victim goes to jail. The police department and police the school district needs to get their checkbooks ready. This is gonna get crazy.
It's the same here in the UK.. The victim is the criminal.. It's a rotten world we're living in 😳
School sued
Police sued
School charged with miss use of 911
Other parent sued for malicious prosecution.
Money money money.
I wonder what connection the mother that complained has with the police dept. Is she a woman cop? Or is her husband a cop?
"It wasn't even the child depicted who lodged a complaint nor their parents." The police are clearly hiding a TransNationalist at that school who is in serious need of deportation. They are not the rightful Progenitors of this nation nor should they be hiding behind children. Which Nation is offering the bounty? Make sure the Governor is alerted. (When you stop hiding diplomats at schools then assassins stop showing up)
I hope they end up having to name the school after her.
By calling the police, the school administrators gave the complaint legitimacy. Absolutely should be sued. What an joke of school administration.
The vice principal by denying mom's access to her child should be charged with unlawful confinement.
@Michael Ward That's not too far from the truth: Once your child is born and you "REGIS -tered" your child's birth with the government, it belongs legally to your government, of which police and school teachers are an extension. That's also how come they can force you to ensure, that your child goes to school. You actually need permission to home school, for example. And the child's social security number will show up on bills of your country's currency, as all the citizens are the backers of the currency with their ability to work.
This subject goes much further still...
The only time there was ''fire in her eyes'' was when the VP told her she couldn't be allowed to see her daughter!!
@@Pharesm You only need their permission in some states in the US. In many you file a notice with them, not a request, and in some you don't even have to notify them. So I will assume the rest of your comment is about as well researched.
@@Elucidus4 I can't see the context because it doesn't show my comment in the side bar. What was this about? And don't assume things, that's always a stupid move. But I guess you got an attitude, and attitude generally requires unsupported assumptions.
@@Pharesm Yeah the guy called your emotional stupidity out. There might be 1% of these threads that even know enough about the law to speak here. Not all states require permission to home school, and Americans are not government property. In case you've never read it try The Constitution.
It was always my understanding that a minor could not be questioned without a parent.
Our society has gone batshit crazy and the life of a 10year old CHILD and her family traumatized and nearly destroyed!! We’re pathetic!!!
Oh, this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Cops have arrested children for throwing a baby carrot.
Cops have arrested children for spitting.
Cops have arrested children for riding bicycles.
After a report that 3 students *may* have purchased some drugs, 40 Georgia Deputies and the Sherriff descendended on a school and searched every single student, including having male cops go under the bras of females, some without even using gloves.
Remember, there are no good cops.
There are only bad cops, and bad cops who couldn't take it anymore and swallowed a bullet.
Wholeheartedly Agreed!!
Well Hawaii is a Democrat stronghold. Have you noticed 100% of their policies are upsidedown and backwards? Doesn’t surprise me one bit that they’d do something like this. I’m surprised they didn’t release a serial killer to make room for this dangerous 10 year old
ENSLAVEMENTS
No it's what black people have been saying forever here
Sue the parent that pressed charges, make her feel the pain of filing a nuisance report and getting a kid arrested for a drawing
That is Only a civil suit..
( still needs to be done )
Suing the school
( that mishandled the happening to begin with )
Suing the Police with Wrongful Arrest.
Endangerment of a minor
There is plenty of lawsuits to be had on this one.. its against the law to question a minor without a parent and much much more
@@MrBOB39 suing the school is civil too.
@@chucksmoko5348 they are all civil, that's the only form of lawsuit a private individual can file. You can request criminal charges be filed, but that's all on the district attorney, they get the only call on wether those charges are filed.
This however should be referred to the district attorney's office. This is a violation of the first (a drawing is constitutionally protected, doesn't matter what it contains), possibly the 4th, definatly the 5th, possibly the 6th, definatly the 8th ammendments. All of which are federal crimes, and the police would have no protections under qualified immunity for violating constitutional rights.
Especially since it was the anonymous mother's kid who was bullying.
The blinders on some people. How far up your own posterior does your head have to be so you think you're always in the right?
The action taken against that 10 year girl was outrageous.
How do you feel like the "good guy" as you are putting handcuffs on a 10-year-old for drawing a picture???
It's also HORRIBLE, SHAMEFUL, and DISGRACEFUL.
Hear, hear from Belgium.
@@ianbattles7290A picture of a “graphic depiction” of a figure holding a gun with a severed head at its feet, accompanied by threatening phrases, including, “Stand down B**th”, “Yo F**kin days are over NOW”, and “Fake to me and DED!”
@@TheBaldrfreedom of speech stooge
The angry parent probably is a rich member of the community and of course they get what they want. Everyone involved that violated the childs rights should be arrested, sued and fired period. Disgusting.
I am seriously beginning to believe that there is no problem in our society that the police cannot make worse.
Well said!
Must agree
Correct.
This is happening all over the place and this is not just a coincidence!
The fact that we're even having this discussion is deeply disturbing and indicative of a society in a steep decline.
I agree 100 percent.
I know,let's blame 45.
well said
Couldn’t agree more. It’s a failure of major proportion.
That cop is a moron. He should have enough sense not to arrest a child for shit like that.
Minors can't be questioned without parent, parents, or legal guardian present.
Different situations and different states disagree.
While that may be true on paper, the arrest, interrogation, coerced confession and conviction of Brenden Dassey seems to suggest it's not always true in practice.
Unless that child does a drawing - then the full force of the law, the school. and the fury of another parent must be visited upon this obviously criminal 10-year-old girl. Sarcasm.
We are living in la-la land without any doubt - protect your children - the present education system is dangerous for your little ones, don't leave them to fight a lonely battle against the powers that be. Take them back home, protect and guide them.
@@ladybug591 Indeed, for heaven's sake, what country/state do you live in (and ended up in) where a 10-year-old child is treated in such a traumatizing and unlawful manner in this way and for such an absurd reason.
My 2 cents from Belgium.
Police say the girl was not questioned and officers did not take any statement from her.
I always thought home schooling was an insane thing to try and do but imagine your child not only being bullied but being kidnapped and the teachers not only let it happen but essentially orchestrate it with the help of a stranger.
Your Marxist activist infested state schools are brainwashing your kids.
Home school every time.
This recently happened to my son. We removed our son from the school. They told me I must understand because of “the times we are living in”. I told the cop that times change but unless laws do, they have their parameters. Threatened lawsuit sighting our civil rights, cop left abruptly.
Oh it seems enforcement of law changed. It amazes me how obeying law is optional in USA.
@@aquarius5719for orange people.
I’m so sorry that happened to your son. I really hope he is alright.
I'll take shit that never happened for 500, Alex
@@roblopez8481 Like your entire life?
Hey Steve as a former police officer for 25 years I would never put a child in handcuffs there no reason for that keep up the good fight
There is a difference between a minor and a child. This is clearly a over-reach of police here but their could in fact be cases where it is rightfully so a cause for arrest giving a violent crime being committed. The gap between a ten year old and a 20 year old is leagues apart. I assume a minor is under 21 in the US.
@@kylemenos A minor in the U.S. is under 18.
You know that color of law could lead to termination.
And, as usual, the original bully was never even confronted.
100% *this*
I agree - the original bully should be the only one punished.
I would like to see the drawing in we question.
I was bullied:
when I was eleven years old my family moved to a new neighborhood. There was a family of bullies nearby & I was called names.
I did make friends with other kids, but the bullies got other kids to chime in & I felt pretty miserable in the new school.
Finally, when I was 13 one of the bullies slugged me in the face. This was the best thing to happen, because it forced me to fight.
I ended up with a black eye, but won the fight.
I heard from a friend that the bully was at the neighbor park the following night & warned people about me, that I might get pissed off & kill someone.
Anyway, I was always tall & strong for my age & should not have taken crap in the first place.
I guess I was just eleven & wanted to make friends in the new neighborhood.
The bully I fought ended up playing college football & told me he had an offer to play professional football, but didn't think it was worth it.
Maybe football players didn't get paid as well in the late 1970's?
I heard that he died, EMS was called but he was too large to get on the gurney & died.
Anyway, that's my story.
I would like to add that the new school principal did not want me back for eight grade.
The English teacher acted like a woman & was obviously homosexual, one of the other kids would turn around & look at me laughing- I would then start laughing & the whole class would start laughing. The teacher would then send me to the principal's office for disturbing the class.
My parents told me years later that the gym teacher stuck up for me.
I wonder if the principle was homosexual too?
I have read that many school teachers are traditional homosexual.
I think this is relevant to what's going on today with the school boards.
The bullies were the police officers
@@RainbowManification INDEED ! . . . Power IS Corrupting . . .
hence a civilization has a profound duty to hold those in whom it entrusts authority to a Very High Standard and to maintain a system of checks against the corrosive nature of these powers.
@@chamberizer more often than not the bullying goes both ways. The drawing could be considered bullying even if it was as a response to the behaviour of the "original" bully. Sometimes kids make up stuff to avoid punishment of some shit . It is often hard to get to the bottom of the bullying at school, kids are still learning social skills. I have a hard time imagine that a kids drawing would warrant an arrest - disturbing sure - discussion and perhaps discipline., but getting the police involved was sheer incompetence and definitely an overkill.
This situation was totally insane. Hope the mom sued everyone involved in this harassment of her little girl!
This story is one of the most infuriating stories that I ever heard. I swear to god if that ever happened to any of my kids I would spend every penny I’d ever make in my entire life to make sure that the cops, the administrators of the school, and the city are held accountable for this BS
And don't forget the insane parent who called the cops. She thinks twice next time
@@deborahfoster9828 I wish I could agree... but if one does not think at all, thinking twice is not possible.
Agree 100%
I would also include the Karen that started all this disgrace and take a large and meaningful bite out of their checkbook.
@bunkstagner298 ummm you'd have a second mortgage for the house you signed over in asset forfeiture. This is criminal in nature, no child should be neglected let alone arrested and forced to endure such torture by cops AND THE SCHOOL BOARD. because of their neglect.
Wow, that poor girl is traumatized for life. They all not only should be sued but arrested for constitutional rights violations, endangering the welfare of a child, kidnapping, unlawfully detaining a child, and failing to let her mother talk to her or be with her during interrogation. The bully should be thrown out of school. The school board should formally apologize for this happening. This is so appalling.
So what is the crime? She was being bully?
Probably happened in the UK or Canada
@@Randomperson-yr3gpNope, Hawaii. Pretty typical blue state handling of things. No such thing as rights or freedoms.
@@Skyblade12 from hearing what happens in deep blue state and how the fire happened that sounds about right
@@Randomperson-yr3gpyou probably think the answer to gun violence is more guns
Sue for an amount that has at least 9 digits! Name the parent the school, principal, and any one else involved. Don't settle!
pulled from an article 'The ACLU also wants the town of Waipahu and the state of Hawaii to compensate the mother and daughter for their pain and suffering, to the tune of $500,000. The attorney general’s office tells the AP that they are working with the Department of Education to respond to the letter by the ACLU’s Nov. 8 deadline.'
Agreed, it's about scale. You make a big deal about something small, now I'll make a gigantic deal about that. Sometimes scorched earth the only way to get a point across.
The tax payer is the one that's suffering... just kidding tho... she should at least get the price of the crayons...
10 digits!
Parents, please inform your children if they are held and questioned by police officers, school staff, or CPS that they should NEVER talk to them and request a lawyer IMMEDIATELY! Tell your children to REMAIN SILENT, ALWAYS! Tell your children to request their parents and a lawyer, no exceptions. Tell them under NO Circumstances to answer ANY QUESTIONS. This is utterly ridiculous and unprofessional!
Soooo. . . May we see the child’s masterpiece ?
Serious I'm really peeved that I don't get to see what the picture actually was
It was illegal for the police to handcuff & arrest the 10 year old child, unless she had actually violated a specific articulable law, and if one or both parents were present. This is insane!
Until people say enough and stand up it will happen!
@thomas - Your words are strong, but we are small & weak & working & have tremendous responsibilities & our economies are fragile & we might let our anger get out of hand, defending your child or my child, and before long we're standing before a judge and getting sentenced.
Boldness of purpose does NOT always pan out in the best possible way, especially in the case of the average person with average income & time to get involved.
It simply sucks.
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@@david77james You are what you want to be. If you just want to be someone who is small, weak and only surviving, that is all you will achieve. Unless you aim for far more, you will never get more than that. Aiming just to survive is what brings you to a state where you own nothing and are 'happy' about it - after all, you have at that point succeeded in what you aimed for, which is just surviving.
Anyhow, on a more positive note, if ever you wish for more, don't bother trying to change the world, but instead focus on changing yourself, becoming greater than the challenges we face. There is an immense amount of great stuff you can do to develop yourself mentally, physically and spiritually, but you need to go out of the box to really win with any of that - something practically no one is willing to do. Once you master yourself, you master the world around you (I am not fully there yet, but the more I progress the clearer this becomes).
Anger works poorly when you turn it against others, but it works wonders when you turn it against yourself: ask yourself why you (and your children) are still being so victimized - what can you do to better adapt. Anger at yourself will push you to go out of your comfort zone and make the effort needed to make difficult changes that target the root of the problem rather than the surface / short term easy fixes.
In any case, if your life is full of suffering and getting worse, this tells you that you are on the wrong path in life and that YOU need to change and better adapt. The suffering will only increase so long as you are on the wrong path. If you see your life getting better and better, then you know you are doing something right - keep thinking about this and the world will give you the tools you need to change yourself.
@@thomastolbert6184What exactly are we supposed to say? And “ stand up”- by doing what? I honestly would like to know what you’re suggesting would help?
@@icu3869 ,you should let your voice be heard! Don't protest by screaming at me on the net! Do you have enough friends to overfil the police station? This is why they are taking your guns so you will have to say ,"oh but those cops have guns an I am afraid"! They only do this crap legally in North Korea And China, this was a child and the parents have a legal court case. If they let it slide it will become normal! If the entire town gets a class action law suit for millions of dollars it will set a standard and won't happen often.sounds like the police force is all bullies and will only get worse if nothing is done.
The judge that catches this case should issue bench warrants for all the cops, school officials, and the complaining parent. Then let them sit in a cell for three days. This is outrageous.
Bench warrant is where you miss an already established court date appearance.
@@brkbtjunkie This is why emotional goons should shut their trap. It's like the word treason. The left claims every right winger is a traitor, not even knowing the definition of the word, when in fact they voted in a traitor named Joe Biden.
@@lescobrandon8045 the left, middle and right committed treason during 911. trump and biden are treasonous.
@@lescobrandon8045
Well, if you want to get technical about it...
Joe Biden is not a traitor.
Donald Trump is not a traitor.
Barack Obama is not a traitor.
George W. Bush is not a traitor.
Hillary Clinton is not a traitor.
Michael Flynn is not a traitor.
None of these people are traitors because none of these people have committed treason. Turns out that treason (the only crime defined in the US Constitution) isn't an easy crime to commit. For one thing, an American is only able to commit treason when the US is in a state of declared war. This means that no American, name anybody you want, *NO AMERICAN* has committed treason for over 75 years.
Anybody who has committed treason against the United States is either dead or really old. Joe Biden is old, but not that old, unless you want to claim that he committed this particular crime when he was *two.*
@@SailorBarsoom No....he is a demented Far-Left fool, whose power-grab makes him the same as a traitor.
This child’s family needs to sue the complaining parent for the emotional distress they have impacted this child with, the school for their negligence in caring for and protecting the child and the police for the assault and emotional abuse they committed against that child. ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING!!! freedom of speech
I disagree. I believe_and I'm sure many people agree with me_ that there is nothing in this world more dangerous than a ten year old child because every crime that has been committed from the start of civilization to now has been done, if not directly by a Ten Year Old Child; then by someone who had at some point been a Ten Year Old Child.
This is what happened when you live in North Korea.
Wait! What? It was here? When did Kim Jung-Un become the leader of the U.S.?
This is Hawaii. Totally gone if you want freedom. I don’t think they realize that the bidens love China and it’s RIGHT THERE ! I’m not sure I I want to spend money on bailing them out
Yes!
I agree I would sue the living piss out of them after I won the criminal charges and there is no such thing as qualified immunity it does not exist in law it is color of law the supreme Court made it up out of thin air without any prior case to base it on and then dumped it on we the people like we're supposed to comply with whatever they say is being low and it is not I know that I didn't consent to the supreme Court creating tyranny in my country and that's what it is it creates tyrants out of Judges prosecuting attorneys and cops they all become tyrants they think they can do whatever they want and can't be prosecuted well that's not true qualified immunity is not law it is color of law just like codes ordinances and statutes I stand on my constitutional rights and I stand with God God gave us our rights and our federal government back in the day recognize those rights as well and wrote it into the constitution of these United States which is the law of the land anything else like codes ordinances statutes policies and qualified immunity are all just color of law and they will not stand in a court of law you cannot be prosecuted on those things because they are not law
I think anything a minor says to the police without an attorney present and without parental consent must be considered obtained under duress and inadmissable in court
The principal and vice-principal should be arrested on federal child abuse and endangerment charges and barred from ever working with children, the cops should be suspended for abuse of power, and the complaining person should be charged with filing a false or capricious report.
You are missing that it is illegal to interrogate a minor without a legal guardian present.
Not enough, Heads Need To Roll.
Stopping the mother from leaving the room should be illeagal detainment.
That’s right Take their lively hoods for this permanent damage to a child.
Or let me draw them a picture they won’t soon forget The rat bastards
This should happen, but the parent who started it has no legal problems. They complained, and nobody needed to accept her complaint. She got others to do the dirty work so since she took no action other than to complain, she really doesn't have any legal responsibility. Just like the picture would, and should fall under freedom of speech, so does her complaining. The problem was when people took action.
BTW not a lawyer, not giving advice.
(Edited misspelled word)
So, let me get this straight. The school admin couldn't understand the problem, the attending police officers couldn't understand the problem, yet they still saw fit to arrest, handcuff, detain a 10yr old child and deny her access to a competent adult supervisor/parent for any questioning?
Then the mother isn't allowed to see her child because she might beat her, on what grounds did they make that leap of logic on? The vice principal kept her in the office because she had fire in her eyes? If it was my kid the fire would have been boiling there blood from a 100 paces, so of course there was fire in her eyes!
Seriously what the actual fuck?
“Boiling THEIR blood…”
Incorrect. They understood the problem. The child committed a crime. A threat. Threats are not covered under free speech laws, and are illegal, whether spoken, drawn, or written, even if by a child. On the drawing was a shooting with the words "your days are done."
The law did exactly what the law was supposed to do. Thank goodness.
@@timinator20o0 You are wrong. There was no threat. There was no crime. The school administrators, the police, and even the complainant did not describe any crime. All the "adults" onsite even admitted to that. This was just a Karen weaponizing the school and the police against an innocent child just because they were "offended". At any time anyone onsite could have stopped this travesty but didn't because they just wanted to pass off responsibility to someone else. All involved should lose their jobs and the idiot who made the call should be sued into homelessness for this incident
Yeah, maybe I missed it, but can someone just answer this:
WHY DID THE POLICE ARREST HER???
@@timinator20o0 There's always some white coat wearing, clipboard carrying karen in the comments......congratulations, it's YOU!!
The parent weaponizing the police fits the description of a "Karen". I cannot imagine the trauma done to that 10 year old girl.
Which means that Karen should be ARRESTED for making a false police report. Because that is what this ultimately is.
There was NO reason or excuse to drag the police into this over a PICTURE.
thats exactly what i was thinking, the karen should be identified and have her face all over the news,let the other parents see this liberal for who she is.i smell a huge lawsuit in the making,but sadly the TEN YEAR OLD KID WILL NEVER FORGET THIS.
@@jeremydale4548 sue her in civil court for emotional harm.
THIS is EXACTLY what you get when you allow RELIGIONS... ALL "RELIGIONS" and a "MILITARIZED POLICE FORCE" and an ever more "CONSERVA-F**KER POLITICAL CLIMATE/SOCIETY!
ALL Of these things combined have created/allowed for this!
Not a Karen, a Gatta.
"The fire in my eyes is because you have my child separated from me!" The absurdity of this entire situation is beyond belief.
I'm old, back when I was in school, we handed bullies differently. I put up with a bully for years, one day I couldn't take it anymore and put the bully in the hospital. His mother came to the school and asked who beat up her son, looked at me and said, with shock, "did you beat him up"? I said, yes, she said," it's about damn time", walked out and that was it. We were friends till the day he died.
Carzy crap,,,,only today in 2023,,!!
LOL, nothing that impressive but I was in 1st grade and my bully was in 4 or 5th grade ( do not remember). Dude had a full on foot over me and some weight. I put up with it for nearly an entire year. One day on the way home (we walked the same way about 1/2 the distance) I had enough and smacked the due upside his head with my metal lunch box. About 2 hours after I got home the police showed up, took me in the back of the police car and my mother to the bully's house. The bully's mom was pointing at me yelling he did it,,, he did it. Cops looked at me, then at her kid and laughed in her face. LOL At that point they asked me why I did it, and I explained his bully BS for the last year. We drove away and I never heard about it again.
It it had not been the 80s, I'd of probably gotten in real trouble.
Bullies make a big mistake when they mess with the good guy.
"It's about time you did my job as a parent for me! I'm sure not going to be discipline him!"
That wouldn't work today because the bully would come back to school with a gun.
I experienced much of the same. I was bullied every day. The bullies were praised for looking cheerful and polite around teachers and principals. I was horribly punished for being angry and complaining about the bullies, even told that I should feel sorry for the bullies because they had a hard home life. And people wonder why bullied kids don't want to tell their teachers.
"i don't give a flying fuck about their 'hard home life', they are giving me a hard school life right now and either you are going to stop it or i am. choose wisely."
The worst thing for me was I got bullied at home by my alcoholic stepfather and my co-alcoholic mother and then I would go to school and get bullied by the kids and even a teacher or two
Yes, schools will go to great lengths to protect bullies.
I am so sorry that you had to go through that. We had a similar situation with our daughter. She was constantly bullied in elementary school. The school did NOTHING as the bullies were excellent students and favorites of the administration.
gnikcuf sociopaths, the lot of them.
Apparently even 10 y/o kids aren't immune to thought crime.
Hey slaves need to understand their place early or they get silly ideas like freedom of speech
Don't forget they are curious little souls, and some of them pretty dark.
We old ones tend to underestimate their sophistication of a 10yo. these days.
Is this bad ? While I disagree with moral-crimes, I do agree, that laws should be equally enforced. In a Proper legal system age is just a number. Same goes with sanity, "traumatic" backstory, "emotional" eceptions and "socioeconoomy".
The definition of crime is the problem, not the euql enforcement.
@@Ribulose15diphosphat crimes designed to go against the rights of the people, is by definition totalitarianism. The bill of rights is now criminalized by big brother. More thought crimes in 1984. Orwell got the year a bit wrong.
Its strange because its must fall to guardian/parent responsibility because its guardian/parent fault if they commit crime because they don't educate their children... do you expect 10 y/o know a law like adult ?
People are losing their minds all across the board. The world is descending in dystopian insanity.
Handcuff and "arrest" a minor WITHOUT the parent in attendance is a problem!
Wait till you hear the hundreds of cases where they strip "search" minors and then gag order the parents to keep the story from being told if you think handcuffing Is bad how would you feel about a stranger undressing a child ....ive even heard cases of men "searching" little girls it's always swept under the rug some how
@@FUCKDSS what are the consequences for violating the gag order?
Handcuffing and arresting a minor is a problem. Period. Why? The human brain.
The Vice Principal and by extension the Principal should not be allowed anywhere near children for allowing this to happen ... I hope that that family is set for life fianancially at least when this is over and the officers responsible fired for their absolute lack of judgement and knowledge of the law
I have worked construction in schools; some of those minors were a lot bigger than me so it depends on the child, and their behavior towards authority figures. A calm 10 yo is over the top.
Brings back a bad memory: 1964, 8th grade. I was bored in class, so I was sitting there amusing myself by drawing a monster. I probably had a smile on my face because I liked drawing them as silly as possible - lots of eyes, warts, the works. Suddenly Sandra asked me if the drawing was of her. I was so shocked that she would think such a thing that I just stared, speechless at her. I had always been nice to the girl. Why would she even think such a thing. Next day I was called into the guidance counselor’s office. I did not even know why until the woman started lecturing me about my cruelty. The irony of it all was this. This same woman had been my geography teacher only a year earlier. She had allowed the kids in that class to laugh at my speech and southern accent throughout every oral report all that year. Finally one day she had given a little speech about the lack of industry in the south. She explained this by saying that the closer you get to the equator with its warmer climate, the slower the intelligence. The whole class turned around in their seats, looking at me in the back row and laughing. And she had the nerve to give me a ten minute lecture about cruelty. My only regret is that I never did tell Sandra that I would never have treated her that way. I was too outraged about the whole ordeal.
Wow. God bless you!
Wow thats disgusting, im sorry that happened to you. Im guessing you moved to a northern state. As a yankee myself what they did to you was disgusting and i would say that those who treated you like that should not be throwing stones at glass houses when they say that southerners lack intelligence cause they aren't proving themselves to be intelligent either. these people would hate it if southerners did what they did to you to them. People need to treat other they way they themselves would want to be treated.
@@sarahvincent2305 actually, we moved from Alabama to Oklahoma when I was seven and I guess the accent (plus my quirky, high-pitched voice) was an irritation to this particular teacher. Most other teachers were very nice. This particular teacher had marched in the Selma, Alabama marches back in the earlier racial unrest. She and one other teacher (my third grade teacher) incorrectly assumed all southern-born people and I were racially prejudiced. Every relationship I had had in my upbringing with black people had been friendly and positive. My parents were very kind, polite people and if I had ever displayed any sort of unchristian, haughty attitude, they would have corrected me quickly.
Maybe Sandra knew she was a monster 🤨
@@snakeslayer831 I think the poor girl assumed such a thing because she was very poor, shaky and nervous, wore thick-leaned glasses and was used to being treated horribly…but I would never have mistreated her and was outraged that she thought I would. If I’d done the right thing I would have reassured her that I would never have treated her badly, but instead, like a dumb kid, I just sat there staring at her in consternation.
Oh the irony! The police and School Official’s “hands were tied”, yet the only one led away in cuffs is a 10 year old child.
Sounds like the only ones hands tied were the kid's
Who was pointing a gun at the head of the police officers and forcing them to make this arrest???
Because it seems like these were adults with free will and discretion who CHOSE to arrest this kid...
any body got a cig here need one badly
The school officials hands were "not tied," they were just stupid and failed to take proper leadership. Are you surprised in this radically leftist controlled governments?
This is the attitude everywhere. “I’m powerless.:.” It comes back to not dealing with their supervisors… just easier to cuff the kid.
How can a child be legally arrested? 🤯 As that child’s parent, I’d have an army of attorneys
Absolutely ridiculous. Is it possible that everyone involved in the arrest of this 10-year-old could be charged with child abuse?
Let's hope that they are
No, because these are the people meant to enforce the law
@@boreddude3898 I worked in law-enforcement for a while. I left because of some of the stupidity I encountered. Not all officers are bad guys, but there are some of the people pulling their strings who are genuine bad guys. I didn’t want to be in that environment. And I find it absolutely disgusting that officers actually fell for this and arrested that child in such a manner. In my opinion that counts to child abuse and no one with a badge should ever be guilty of such a thing. What happened to that badge meeting being held to a higher standard?
Whatever the charge, I hope they sue them into oblivion. Then she can go to a nice private school.
@@CB-68-westcreations this 10 year old girl's rights were violated without a parent or attorney present
The fact that the teacher and principal let this get to the point where the kid was arrested should be enough to fire them both! Just pathetic and child abuse!
And the vice principal not letting the mother leave the room boom, felony unlawful detention.
The thing I find interesting here, is that everyone (including the school) admitted the other child was bullying. Why weren't they disciplined for bullying? So they were telling the rest of the student body that it's OK to bully, but not to try and cope with the situation. That's messed up.
Yeah whatever happened to zero tolerance for bullying.
The biggest FUBAR you ever saw. Just incredible.
Fully agreed. When this fact is coupled by Karen parents with matching kids, you have a very real possibility for a bully to not just evade any responsibility, but turning the entire process into yet another tool for bullying. And that is a premise we should absolutely not allow to happen. it's crushing for adults when the police get weaponized via false/overblown accusations - for small kids? We're talking life-long mental trauma in all due likelyhood, if not worse.
Zero tolerance for bullying is a misnomer..
Its more zero tolerance for standing up to bullys.
Schools don't stop bulling, they are much better at ignoring it and making the other kid now the bully
Another KAREN getting involved in something that isn't her business...
The parent who insisted on the police being called should have been arrested for a frivolous call.
In the UK that can happen
That’s what you would think. But then you realize the girl who was arrested was black and it starts making sense. Black people are mistreated in this country and Hawaii is no exception. There is no way police are handcuffing a little white girl and taking her downtown without her parents regardless of what was drawn. It’s textbook discrimination.
@@noonsight2010 it happens here but it’s mostly reserved for swatters
Geez! The schools have gone crazy. Take your children out if the public schools.
The Cops are idiots for escalating the situation, arresting a minor without charges, forceful detainment.
In middle school I was obsessed with dragons and Dante’s the inferno. I drew Chiron as a dragon with “abandon all hope ye who enter here” in a banner above it. One of my bullies took my sketch book, found the sketch, told the teacher, and I was sent to the office. My mom was called and I was threatened with being expelled due to the “danger’ I posed to the class and the student who stole my sketch book due to the depiction of “hell” and “demons” (this was not a Christian school). I had made the choice to give up art all together as I kept having to hid my art book or risk it being stolen and defaced. But when my mama showed up all hell broke lose. Her argument was that it was my property and a good drawing and no one should have seen it without my say. She then threatened to take me out of that school and press charges for unjust expulsion when I was the one who was wronged. No one was depicted in the drawing and it’s just a mythical creature in a mythical setting and no one is being threatened by the drawing other then one student who found it “scary”. She then said I will be taking the rest of the week off school, she took me for ice cream, bought me a new book and video game, and she is the only reason I still do art today. That day was the first day I saw my mom so angry that she didn’t even have to curse or yell. everyone in that office shook before her might. I realized at that moment my mom was a total badass and I gained a whole new level of respect for her. 20 odd years later, and that old battle axe is still a badass and still encourages me to make art. I hope the little girl in this situation doesn’t give up on doing what she likes just because of some Karen and her bratty crotch spawn.
so, apparently this was a drawing of the artist depicting herself holding a gun, with the severed head of the bully at her feet and the line "these fucling days are over" under it. its not just a drawing of generic dragons and gore with a edgelord comment under it. it was a direct depiction of violence against a specific person
@@FreebirthBoccara "[I]t was a direct depiction of violence against a specific person[.]"
So was "The Interview." Let's arrest Seth Logan.
Right on!
@freebirth boccana...you know this how?
@@FreebirthBoccara Congradulations, you have won the Zero Common Sense award. In the Boy Scouts, we would send these guys off on a "snipe hunt". 🙂
The adult who called the police should be arrested for making false charges, child endangerment, and probably some other charges I don't know about. I hope that girl isn't too traumatized.
A federal appeals court just rejected qualified immunity for the 3 cops involved.
As a public school employee I am so disapointed in all adult behavior in this situation. This child and parent deserved better. I hope she takes it to court
it depends upon if they can afford it
This child is never going to trust any official again.
@@gayemorgan4575 I would never blame her for that, the school that one parent and the police practically did a victim blame by their actions
@@aaron75fy I agree with you. What I mean is that this got way out of hand. I was a primary school teacher (I think that's elementary school over there) and would have handled this in the classroom. Finding out what was going on. Calling out the bullies and emphasising that it is not OK to bully and sending the bullies to the office. Of course, things are totally different here in Australia than in the USA. I was just appalled that the cops were even called. As for the parent who didn't like the drawing, I think they need to see that their child is a bully.
Not just take them to court, but they should definitely win
When my daughter was in middle school a student In her classroom had their home broken into and robbed. She told some of the kids in her class that if her house was broken into her dad would take his sword and kill them. I was called into the school and found myself confronted by the principal, Vice Principal, school counselor, teacher and the school police officer. After a brief discussion I said that I do have an old cavalry sword and kids say dumb things and this is a waste of all our of time. The teacher then said that we take threats seriously. I said first of all my daughter did not threaten anyone and I’m not a moron, if someone broke into my house and threatened the life of my family or myself I would just shoot them. I then explained that is any of you harass my daughter over this I will sue the hell out of you. I started to leave when the police officer said I have a few more questions for you. I said then you can arrest me and I can answer them at the police station with my attorney. I walked out and never heard another word about it.
way to go Greg very smart and levelheaded of you
Wheres the "love" button for this?
My question is were the Principal, VP, and Counselor women by any chance..?
Thats how you deal with bullies! Love it!
Good man.
I remember when I was 12 I'd been relentlessly bullied by a couple other girls and when we got our yearbooks I drew all over the photos of their faces. They heard about it from someone i showed it to and went to the admin to try to get me punished. Their response? "She drew on your faces in her own yearbook? Sorry it's her book she can do what she wants with it." I guess that was back when school admin had a smidgeon of common sense to use.
When I was 12 I would have gotten a detention but no law enforcement. So things change in steps ig.
When I was 12 they would just look at me like I was stupid.😊
They have certainly lost all common sense and competentcy at this point in time.
OH My! Your story is the perfect example of what should have been done in the case of this video about a bullied child! Thanks for sharing it with us!
Well, you know, we’re surrounded by a society filled with snowflakes. Apparently hurting people’s feelings is now an actual crime, as ridiculous as that sounds. Equally snowflake-like are our “law enforcement” - police, prosecutors, and judges. Yes, they get butthurt by someone voicing their opinion and they just can’t take it. So they go out for blood. Yes, folks, American society is filled with snowflakes, from the kids in schools to the judges on benches, to their Orwellian police departments that go waaaaaaaay overboard in their response to everything. So basically, we no longer live in a free society.
I just looked up this case. The 10:year old girl was the only black child involved in the drawing and was disabled (ADHD). " Despite the city attorney pushing hard for the dismissal of individual HPD defendants in a December hearing, insisting that the officers were acting under risk of terroristic threatening, Judge Gillmor refused to dismiss the police officers from the suit, confirms that there was no probable cause for the child’s warrantless arrest while also dismissing the officers request for qualified immunity, writing that “the drawing is a simplistic cartoon-style picture by elementary age students”, and officers should reasonably not have considered the artwork terroristic." Really? The drawing of a ten year old was "terroistic threatening" but you didn't actually charge her- but released her without charges after four hours of questioning - without a guardian, parent or lawyer present?
Cops are fucking idiots.
The fact that the word ‘terroristic” could be associated with a ten year old in a school. Tells us why we should never entertain visiting this god forsaken country.
The mother who complained to have the police involved should be sued also.
Exactly.
The collusion of the school should also achieve a health change of personnel..
no, the mother can say whatever she wants, if she didn't call the police herself she isn't at fault. however the school should have said they won't, and to tell the mother to call 911 if she believes she is in danger. telling someone else to do something is still free speech, unless you incite violence.
7:10 Steve says exactly what i mean right here
Also have a psych exam and have her child/children taken from her. She's an unfit mother as well as a pain in the ass Karen !
@@adambartlett114 so you argue against what steve says?
If my child's school did this to them, my child would never return to that school.
I’d sue
So you would punish your child instead of the criminals.
@@Startellerthe school staff is criminal. I would protect my child from those criminals.
@@DanielPhillips-ny5sf By punishing your child? What bad would that do to the criminals? Why would they stop after? why another school won't do the same? Suing the school would be much better.
@@Starteller I would sue the school and every individual involved, but my primary objective is to ensure none of them can ever impact my child again in any way.
in Britain, you can be charged forwasting police time. That would apply to the complaining parent, in a sane world.
Omg yes! This right here!
We have the same in the US, problem is very rarely does anyone get charged.
Your right mate Would probably have been different here Definitely wasting Police time Absolute Insanity.
In the UK you can be arrested and jailed for not conforming to the mental illness of another.
In Britain you can be arrested for calling a man who thinks he's a woman a man.
Anyone mad about a child NOT being handcuffed should not have kids!
Hard to believe this could even happen. I’m not always for suing, but I hope she sues the hell out of them!
imagine she had drawn a picture of a dragon??? she would have been sent to azkhaban
@@kimberlyrichardson5943 Sounds like it was healthy for you. You drew your emotions onto paper. You didn't act up on them. Most therapists would say that was an appropriate response for a 10 yo
this the action of an American cop. Why are you suprised?
Is it really that hard to believe? Have you seen the videos here on youtube on policing in the USA?
I am so very glad that the parents are holding everyone involved accountable
right on
Imagine getting a call from the police saying they arrested your kid. Freaking out and hauling ass to the station, leaving work all over a drawing?
Time to swing by a lawyers office, contact the ACLU, and take the kid out for ice cream. I smell a pay day, a delicious one.
They're not doing enough to hold them accountable.
Honestly! I'm just curious of the little 10 year olds Color and Ethnicity???
That kid is gonna get paid
The parent who called the cops should be charged with a false call. My guess is that parent is wealthy and/or powerful in that community. Thus the principal and cops did what that woman wanted.
@@FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker But the question remains, why were the cops called at all? Over a drawing, for fuck's sake? That screams of sway in the community. I mean, how hard is it really to say "Ha, sorry... No, I'm not doing that to a child over a sketch. Call them yourself if you're that wound up about it."
Idiots do dumb things based on their own idiotic motivations. It's the weak that do what they're told when all instincts say it's wrong.
agreed
Definitely the parent that told the school to call the cops had better be charged and sued first but also the school and the police. And the cops involved should be fired and not allowed to serve in any law enforcement again. The principal and vice principal should be dismissed and lose their teaching degrees
Exactly..
Would be a shame if a force of violence only found on the dark web were to consume that mother.
I like your review of law...
It helps everyone understand that
Law isn't about good an bad..
It's about control
Govern = control
Ment = mental/mind
This incident reveals a far greater problem than a drawing. Everyone of these so call professionals should be fired. Our public school systems are in need of restructuring.
Blame the school instead of the parent who called the cops? Typical. You are living in the society you deserve.
@@namor3607 Yeah, well you are the problem, it was the job of the school to basically tell the Karen to piss off but they lacked any responsibility
@@namor3607 The parent didn't call the cops. The school called the cops. You need to pay better attention to the video before opening your mouth.
@@toriless Nope. It's the job of the schools to respond to the public - which means parents. Parents are always demanding that schools do what they want, and schools give in and get sued into oblivion when they don't. The "karens" are you - people just like you. You have exactly the schools you deserve. They are a product of you, people like you, and this society. Soak in it.
How do you know that it's a Public School?
"Police arrest her despite the fact that she's cooperative ... and poses no threat..."
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Let's not forget the most salient detail: _no law was broken._ Arrested for what? For *not* breaking the law?
Arrested because apparently it's school policy to arrest any child that any parent asks to be arrested. Somehow. That logic though the victim's mother should be allowed to have the school call the police to arrest its own administrators for having her child arrested. At least that would be in regards to a violation of a right.
It seems the child was arrested so the cops and admins could be Joe Badass.
@@Elliandr Getting facts straight is part of where this fell apart. At no point did he say the parents asked the school to arrest the child? (please time stamp me if I am incorrect), but that "the police be called". The police used the tactic of acting like any other option was out of their control to coerce the compliance of the student and the school....
"That logic though the victim's mother should be allowed to have the school call the police to arrest its own administrators for having her child arrested." Right but again. that's not how is happened according to what we both just watched...
The story beginning at 8:25 stands to show the situation is much more complex as there is a history of what appears to be Borderline Personality and Complex PTSD at work in at least one of these families, and that component obviously caused a situation that was out of the control of... probably everybody but at accomplished Doctor of Psychology.
But really... how offensive was this picture?
"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
- Martin Luther King, Jr.
I suggest you do a search for "HPD: Threatening Drawing Of A Gun And Severed Head Led To 10-Year-Old’s Arrest".
I've quoted part of the article for you here but note that drawing a gun and severed head with a threat probably does constitute a call to HPD (the article is in the Honolulu Civil Beat Newspaper)
But Vanic made clear HPD has a different perspective on the incident.
“To be clear, the ‘drawing’ was a graphic drawing of a girl holding and pointing a gun with a severed head at her feet,” Vanic said. “Your client also wrote a clear message addressed to two classmates by name, using foul language: ‘Stand down B**ch! Yo F**kin days are over NOW’ and ‘Fake to me And DED.'”
Vanic also said that it was “extremely misleading” for the attorneys to characterize the drawing as an “offensive sketch of a student.”
“A threat to shoot and kill another student is, and must be considered to be, ‘a threat of significant harm to someone,’ which you acknowledge is something officers could arrest a student for on school property,” Vanic said. “Thus, the arrest of your client on school property is consistent with your own assessment of the situation.”
My daughter was getting bullied in HS. We repeatedly reported it. I got called in saying 3 of her bullies reported that she had a hit list and was planning a school schooling. Good trick when there were no guns in our house. Anyhow…. They claimed she had all the plans in her black notebook and they saw her writing them. I got her to pull it out. It was her sketch pad for advanced art evening class she was using per her shrink to keep her anxiety calmed down. Her teachers and guidance knew a out this. Administration was going to put this all in her permanent file and make her take anger management. I told them if they did anything of the kind they’d be hearing from my lawyer and from the local newspaper and stations. Had a similar chat with those kids’ parents. I don’t play.
Good for you and thank you.
should sue ALL OF THEM for psychological damage to you , family & your kid !
You actually think doing that is protecting your child? At that point you should be getting violent. Anything less is disrespectful towards your child as well as yourself.
I don't know why anyone sends their kid to public school. My child would never see the inside of that building again.
@@Ayverie4 because they fucking have to.
This is insane. No one, aside from the mother of the arrested girl, showed even the slightest bit of common sense in this situation. If THIS is what passes for rationality and good judgement, we are in the middle of a full-blown national crisis.
Qualified immunity should be abolished and the police held accountable for their actions.
It should be legal to shoot cops if they are conducting an illegal arrest.
It is abolished here in Colorado
Trafficking a miner and kidnapping.
Hey retard do you even know what qualified immunity is...this violation isn't covered under it dumb@ss qualified immunity does not cover a violation of civil right stupid. Officer should be fired and sued federally
@@themeanasian I sure do dumbass why
I truly hope that every single adult involved in this kidnapping and false imprisonment gets sued, every single one of them!
And sacked!
@@stephaniewilson3955 is that absolutely necessary?
Well does that include the cops /.pigs that arrested her?/ Of course you probably think they are justified
@@j.s3612 Of course it is because it shows a serious lack of judgement, knowledge of the law as ones in power and sheer stupidity. Maybe the last one isn't a legit one but works for me.
I hope that girl is awarded a few million dollars to make the rest of her childhood and adulthood a lot easier.
Elementary teacher here. If I had a dollar for every dumb and inappropriate thing I've seen my students draw or write I wouldn't be a teacher anymore.
My elememtary teacher said about drawings that take this and bring it back with your fathers signature. My friend draw d pic and was horrified to show that to his father. So he erased the pic and draw another. Got the signature. Erased and draw the original pic back on. Genius
If I was arrested for every dumb drawing I made to cope with my feelings as a child I probably wouldn't be a full time illustrator now. You'd probably be rich off of just mine alone lol.
It's not even restricted to kids that young. I remember when we were first learning about WW2 as teenagers half the class was drawing swastikas. Of course, that was before we fully understood what it represented, we were just drawing a shape we saw in a book.
well said
"Inappropriate" does not necessarily mean dumb.
If the school would have quashed the bullying, and validated the child’s feelings then the picture may have not been drawn
So the complaining parent effective "swatted" the 10 year old child. I do hope the complaining parent is part of the lawsuit
Karen level 1000.
Unfortunately, no. It's up to the POLICE to determine if a crime was committed; In this case (like SO MANY OTHERS), it wasn't. Imagine THAT; Expecting the Police to actually KNOW the LAWS they are paid to enforce.../S (You literally have ONE JOB!) Imagine a mechanic that doesn't know how to remove a bolt...?
@@brentfarvors192 No it's much more simple than that. Police can arrest you (period). It is up to a court of law to determine whether that arrest is valid.
its not on her.
@@brentfarvors192 Yes, it is their responsibility. If they don't follow the law, they are only protected by the b.s. rule of qualified immunity, which needs to be eliminated.
The school, police department and that parent who complained should be sued!
I fully agree with your statement
Absolutely sue them all into bankruptcy
Imagine devolving so far as a species that hurt feelings is considered an emergency.
End times ... Seriously ...
Revolution time...
This is a first world problem. You have to be living a very drama free life for this to be seen as a police matter.
@@colinmaddocks9352 Oh please! People have been claiming that nonsense since before the civil war. There's no end of days forthcoming. There is either the end of authoritarian systems for the betterment of mankind, or there is abject fascism, which would be the end of freedom.
@@colinmaddocks9352 Time to get right with God 🙏
What a lovely society!
A 10-year-old without a gun is no danger to the officers.
I hope the parents sue the sh.. out of the school and the police
What's so infuriating is the total lack of consistency. This girl is outrageously punished, yet we see instances all the time of bullies beating up other kids, often several big kids against one smaller kid, and they get zero punishment.
White kids are being sacrificed by left-wing fascists for reparations to keep voters on the plantation.
🎯 The victims of bullies are always bullied by the heirarchy.
Well those bullies will make good candidates for police officers won't they? 🤔🙄
Crazy thing is that this happened in 2020, but still has yet to be resolved today. This girl is still involved in this court case every so often.
Well, a lot of cops are just bullies with badges. Bullies respect bullies.
The woman that caused all this mess should have her full name published on public forum.
The media needs to chase her with a camera crew.
@@cataliaishere If you watch the video: It was not the bullies(!) parents. It was an unrelated party.
Let’s be real: if my child bullies someone and gets a drawing (from a ten year old!) that doesn’t depict them nicely… how could I NOT be mad at my child for being a bully. Make them apologize and nicely ask if they could get rid of the picture. Let it be a life lesson not to hurt others, because it might just come back to hit you.
How and why would you ever stand up for bad behavior? And involve the cops in children‘s everyday life. Child’s push and hit and say mean things every week. Do we open child prison centers next to school? The schools would be empty in half a year.
But not even! It was a third party! Lmao, sue them to hell. School, staff, police, parents and everyone else involved.
Hope the child gets out without too much trauma.
What a disgusting foul vile nosey do gooder.
Stop excusing the cops. If you think that they're mindless robots that do everything you ask them to do I have a bridge to sell you.
Is the parent's name Karen?
Makes me glad I got to have my childhood before the world went crazy.
Sorry to tell you this..
Was Plenty of Craziness in the schools and school systems in the 60's and 70's and I'm sure Always has been and likely always will be
Kids.................I'm glad I never was one.
Craziness has always been present. Today, we have instant electronic worldwide distribution of the most stupid things that some people will do.
Some big tough guys tried to jump me when i was sick once, i ran at them with booger hands and the figs ran off and got ME in trouble. Or this other times a short person got mad at me so i had to kick him off of me.
Edit: This happened around 2005 to 2006 in commiefornia.
@@MrBOB39 Yes, even though I didn't live through the 60s and 70s, I like to remind people of how crazy things were back then - Race riots, race wars, civil war, extremely violent protests, Vietnam!!
100% not a police matter. If any one out there, managed to get through their grade school years without either seeing a drawing or making a drawing, that in adult world could be considered at worst a threat, then that person failed to be a part of their scholastic community. The child who made such a drawing should be commended for finding a benign way to express their own feelings. The person who reacted negatively to such a drawing should be encouraged to take an art history class. Understanding the language of images is as important as understanding the language of literature. The vice principal who called the police needs to be immediately dismissed. If you were kind enough to read to the end of my post, then you’ll know this one really got under my skin.
When concidering the level of psychological harm of being handcuffed, arrested and interrogated without a parent. I think the actions of the school administration and the police in this case would qualify as child abuse and possibly harassment.
Child abuse will be the child being paddle till they confess to a crime without their parent or lawyer present.
" 1987 Tampa Bay Florida."
@@aa-oc1hr Point I was making, state authority & school officials have always been abusing their civic trust in protecting children in the public school system.
My mom drag us children to a Baptist Church ( Dixiecrats) that tried to make me believe my grandparents were going to hell cause they were Catholic and Lutheran, coming up with some excuse to paddle me once or twice a month for contradicting or correcting my elders/ adults.
Children were to know their place.
@@aa-oc1hr you have a 10 year old child 's reading comprehension. Please don't breed.
Aren't there legal issues with detaining and questioning a minor without a parent or guardian present?
YES!!! Don't get me started on every legal violation..
If you ask me that's on the line of pedophilia, kidnapping of a minor.
Yes. Also at Germany minors until 17 years has to be interviewed by camera-footage and with at least one part of parents. If police officers do not comply to this law: court dismisses case and police officers are disciplined or gets a criminal lawsuit.
yes
No there is not. The student has to exercise their right to remain silent and request their parents. I thought there was until I looked it up.
Even IF a real crime was committed, THE COPS CAN'T TALK TO YOUR KID WITHOUT A PARENT or LEGAL GUARDIAN.. Let me rephrase that, THEY CAN'T INTERIGATE A MINOR WITHOUT PARENT, GUARDIAN OR LAWYER PRESANT..
The amount and severity of protocols broken were staggering. If there's not a parent because of suspicion of some kind of abuse(not even sure where they'd get that from) there still needs to be someone present who is *not* law enforcement, such as an attorney or a representative social services.
At this point, I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if some kind of abuse of that child happened.
Yes they can
@@bvrsqzr3569 Actually, no, they cannot. The parent MUST be notified of expulsion, threats or any harm to the student. I work in a school district, this is policy by the National Board of Schools.
@@kriswingert1662 thats nice I was a police officer for over 20 years. Yes we can talk to and arrest a child without their parents. All we had to do was personally contact the parent at some point. We can even take them to a juvenile detention center without their parents. The whole needing parents is a myth started by people like you who don't know the law.
@@JakXLT for one i stated i don't know about Hawaii. You obviously don't know how to interpret that rule you just posted. Guess what it actually backs what I said. Good try. Also cops aren't sources for law they enforce the law. On another note a court rule isn't law. You'll need to refer to Hawaii revised statutes. Let us all know how it goes.
Below the age of responsibility, why bother to arrest her?
When crayons are outlawed, only outlaws will have crayons.
Outlaws and Marines 😜
What no Harold with his Purple Crayon?
Crayons don't draw people; people draw people.
@Live Action it's a common Marine joke.
@Live Action What's your problem with your sense of humor?
The very same thing happened to my niece. Her parents were over an hour away at the time and when they reached the police station, she was still cuffed to a bench. For over an hour. She was already a very anxious and introverted child. It's amazing she turned out to be a productive, happy adult. Therapy, of course was a must.
As a retired police officer all I can say is shame on those police officers for arresting that little girl. Not only did they not exhibit common sense, they lacked the courage to simply refuse to accede to a ludicrous demand. I have to believe that they violated internal regulations regarding the treatment of juveniles, not to mention that making a physical arrest for an act that isn't even a crime goes beyond the pale.
Thank you for the perspective sir.
My relative was going arrest murder but cause she was gay his captain told him bury it cause gays don't murder and judges throw book at males cause she was gay
Police forces everywhere are being filled with officers that don't know the law.
I have a hard time believing its not a deliberate plan to destroy the public's faith in the police.
I watch a lot of police auditor channels and its a rare delight to see a cop acting professionally.
All too often they believe that the badge makes any order they give lawful.
Yeah but they do it all the time.
I'm no friend to the Police, but I do find a lot of their problems stemming from that court case that exempts people with high IQs from joining the Police Force. If you hire a bunch of Forrest Gump's, then you're going to get higher crime rates, since the cops aren't smarter than the criminals. Also, if we have a Police Force that only follows orders, we are going to slide into a Police State, much, much quicker.
That school's employees are all cowards