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I will do an update soon. I am not sure what batteries to include - there are a whole bunch including HomeGrid that are really competing hard. Some of them will make it and some wont. Thank you for your kind words.
Hi, Great Video. Very detailed. One thing I did not see mention is the max amperage output of each battery. A comment below mentions needing 5 5ps to get the same as 2 Franilin. Which is an accurate statement however, due to the max output amperage of the 5ps. You could technically get 4 5ps and still have the ability power more items than Franklin. Each 5p has 16 amps max output vs one Frankling at 20 amps max. So 2 Franklins only have 40 max amps. Vs Enphase that has over 60 amps max with 4 5 ps. Could you explain the significance of this?
Hello Alfred, Thanks for watching and writing. The amperage can be calculated from the Continuous Power. Two Enphase 5P's (10 kwh) can output 7.68 kw - that is 7680 watts. If you divide that by 240 volts you get the continuous Amps - 32 Amps. Compare that to 1 Franklin (13.5kwh) its continuous output is 7kw or 7000 watts or 29 Amps. The 5P is a smaller 5kwh unit while the Franklin is a 13.6 kwh unit. So to compare you need more 5P's. When you do an apples to apples i.e. if both Enphase and Franklin have the same kwh, then Enphase will generate more power and more Amperage. In fact as shown above the 10kwh Enphase battery generates more Amps than the 13.6 kwh Franklin. So you could buy 4 Enphase 5P's and generate more power that 2 Franklins. Hope that clarifies. Thanks again
Great Video. Have you ever looked into Paladin Power. They're a new player in the ESS space. Curious your thoughts on them. Haven't seen anyone on TH-cam report on them and was curious how their system stacks up against all the other bigger players in the ESS space. Thanks.
Thank you v much. There are a lot of other players in the market who make excellent batteries. I believe it will be in your best interest to buy batteries from a company once they hit a certain size. That ensures they will remain to honor their warranty obligations. I expect many of the battery manufacturers of today will not be alive in 5 years. I will look at Paladin Power, but it might be best to see if they bubble up on their own and start making waves like Franklin did. Thanks again.
I'm really liking the Enphase 5P but it would take 6 of the 5P to equal 2 of the Franklin's which would give you approx. 27-30 KWH. This would seem the 5P's would take up a much larger footprint even though they are smaller. So what is the cost difference for six Enphase 5P vs two Franklin's? Is there a website we can go to look at prices and compare? I know Enphase makes the best microinverters...it would be good to stay with all one system. Awesome video and thanks for any info.
You are right. It would need 5 of of the 5P's to match the storage capacity of 2 of the Franklins. The footprint may not be very different as the 5P's are pretty small individually. Re pricing, the 5P's have not yet hit the market in full commercial volumes. Enphase is still selling its older batteries. I would make a video when availability and pricing become common. You can check with Cooper and CED - these are two nationwide distributors that might have 5P's in stock. But, current prices are likely to be high. I would wait till availability hits the mainstream. Please reach out to me when you plan to go solar - I can help. I am at jon@mysolarhome.us Thanks v much for watching and your kind words.
@@MySolarHomeUSA Ok 10-4 I definitely will reach out...Even if I don't go solar, I do like the idea of having a Powerwall to help when ERCOT decides to turn your power off for a few hours LOL. Plus being able to recharge it with a small generator on a half tank of gas is a plus as well.
Concerning Power Production. Am I correct that if you hook up two Enphase batteries is tandem that the power doubles but that does not happen with two Solar Edge in tandem? What happens with the Franklin and the Tesla with respect to this issue. Great review overall.
If you want just enough backup to run your kitchen, living room and internet, 1 should be enough. If you are looking for a full home backup (excluding the AC and similar) then 2 would be the better choice. Have you already purchased solar? If you are looking at doing solar and battery, I could help with a good deal - email me at jon@mysolarhome.us. Thanks for watching.
The Sonnen is a great battery and a very solid company to support the warranty. My only grouse with them is they seem to be overpriced. The Tesla's, Enphase's and Franklin's are equally good, but no as pricey. Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
It is done using their software. The critical panel may or may not be there as part of your installation. That is dependent on the number of batteries you buy and the loads you backup. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@MySolarHomeUSA Thanks! I was looking at 4 x Enphase 5p and then maybe also the Span smart panel. Any advice on Span with this configuration? Have a 8kW solar array 20 x 400w REC with IQ8+ microinverters as well.
@@shreyasdube A span panel upgrade is a good idea. It gives you whole home backup and a lot of flexibility in terms of loads to backup and shed. Make sure your installer has prior experience installing a Span panel. Best of Luck.
Yes absolutely, they will work with any kind of panels. Let me know, jon@mysolarhome.us, if you are looking for a quote for solar. And thanks for watching.
@@ericgould3292 Not sure what you are referring to. Tesla and Franklin are AC coupled and can be retrofitted with any existing or new solar system. Enphase and Solar Edge work only with either Enphase Microinverters or Solar Edge Optimizers respectively. Thanks for watching.
Jon; It is not your accent, no problem understanding you one bit. I suspect it is rather my rural internet connection.Thanks for all the information on your site.
No, you can absolutely buy one 5P and that is why this is so flexible. I just compared with 2 5P's because all the other batteries don't even have a smaller size. Many homes will do just fine with only one 5P. Thank you for your comment and for watching.
@@MySolarHomeUSA Well that’s all good and fine but when you consider the installation time frame 3 months is just too far out if you want to take advantage of the tax savings for this calendar year. That’s why I’ll be going with the Franklin.
@@savagecub The Franklin is a fine battery. I offer my customers both then Enphase and Franklin as options. I am usually able to offer better prices for the Franklin as well. Best of Luck
I can give you a quote if you like. Just email your details to me at jon@mysolarhome.us I will get you one good quote and no on will pester you with phone calls and stuff. Thanks for watching.
@@anthonyrodriguez533 Hello Anthony, I can certainly help. I have a bunch of customers in California. Please send me an email at jon@mysolahome.us - with a recent electric bill. I will work out some numbers for you and we could chat tomorrow after I send you the numbers. Thank Jon.
Those enphase peak power figures you are mentioning are identical to what I saw in a 2 x iq5p system. I do not think your numbers are correct. It's half that for a single 5p
Hello - yes very perceptive of you. Actually, the comparison I am doing here is with 2 IQ5P batteries (10 kwh) vs the Franklin 13.5kwh etc etc. Hence the peak power figure is twice that for the single battery. Thanks for watching.
Not sure if you are referring to the video being a paid promotion. I am not in any way associated with Enphase or remunerated by them. I am in the business of installing solar and I simply find their products outstanding. Thanks for watching.
Jon Can Be Reached at :
Email: jon@mysolarhome.us
Telephone: 609-908-3700 text or call
Website: mysolarhome.us
Nationwide Solar and Battery Installations
Great, great Video.
Could you add the Homegrid Battery to the comparison?
I will do an update soon. I am not sure what batteries to include - there are a whole bunch including HomeGrid that are really competing hard. Some of them will make it and some wont. Thank you for your kind words.
Hi, Great Video. Very detailed. One thing I did not see mention is the max amperage output of each battery. A comment below mentions needing 5 5ps to get the same as 2 Franilin. Which is an accurate statement however, due to the max output amperage of the 5ps. You could technically get 4 5ps and still have the ability power more items than Franklin. Each 5p has 16 amps max output vs one Frankling at 20 amps max. So 2 Franklins only have 40 max amps. Vs Enphase that has over 60 amps max with 4 5 ps. Could you explain the significance of this?
Hello Alfred, Thanks for watching and writing. The amperage can be calculated from the Continuous Power. Two Enphase 5P's (10 kwh) can output 7.68 kw - that is 7680 watts. If you divide that by 240 volts you get the continuous Amps - 32 Amps. Compare that to 1 Franklin (13.5kwh) its continuous output is 7kw or 7000 watts or 29 Amps. The 5P is a smaller 5kwh unit while the Franklin is a 13.6 kwh unit. So to compare you need more 5P's. When you do an apples to apples i.e. if both Enphase and Franklin have the same kwh, then Enphase will generate more power and more Amperage. In fact as shown above the 10kwh Enphase battery generates more Amps than the 13.6 kwh Franklin. So you could buy 4 Enphase 5P's and generate more power that 2 Franklins. Hope that clarifies. Thanks again
Great Video. Have you ever looked into Paladin Power. They're a new player in the ESS space. Curious your thoughts on them. Haven't seen anyone on TH-cam report on them and was curious how their system stacks up against all the other bigger players in the ESS space. Thanks.
Thank you v much. There are a lot of other players in the market who make excellent batteries. I believe it will be in your best interest to buy batteries from a company once they hit a certain size. That ensures they will remain to honor their warranty obligations. I expect many of the battery manufacturers of today will not be alive in 5 years. I will look at Paladin Power, but it might be best to see if they bubble up on their own and start making waves like Franklin did. Thanks again.
I'm really liking the Enphase 5P but it would take 6 of the 5P to equal 2 of the Franklin's which would give you approx. 27-30 KWH. This would seem the 5P's would take up a much larger footprint even though they are smaller. So what is the cost difference for six Enphase 5P vs two Franklin's? Is there a website we can go to look at prices and compare? I know Enphase makes the best microinverters...it would be good to stay with all one system. Awesome video and thanks for any info.
You are right. It would need 5 of of the 5P's to match the storage capacity of 2 of the Franklins. The footprint may not be very different as the 5P's are pretty small individually. Re pricing, the 5P's have not yet hit the market in full commercial volumes. Enphase is still selling its older batteries. I would make a video when availability and pricing become common. You can check with Cooper and CED - these are two nationwide distributors that might have 5P's in stock. But, current prices are likely to be high. I would wait till availability hits the mainstream. Please reach out to me when you plan to go solar - I can help. I am at jon@mysolarhome.us Thanks v much for watching and your kind words.
@@MySolarHomeUSA Ok 10-4 I definitely will reach out...Even if I don't go solar, I do like the idea of having a Powerwall to help when ERCOT decides to turn your power off for a few hours LOL. Plus being able to recharge it with a small generator on a half tank of gas is a plus as well.
Concerning Power Production. Am I correct that if you hook up two Enphase batteries is tandem that the power doubles but that does not happen with two Solar Edge in tandem? What happens with the Franklin and the Tesla with respect to this issue. Great review overall.
@claytonproctor7514 I have availability of the new 5P batteries now. If you are still interested, please write to me at jon@mysolarhome.us
Is one enphase 5p enough battery for a 5.1 kw system ? Or should I go with two batteries?
If you want just enough backup to run your kitchen, living room and internet, 1 should be enough. If you are looking for a full home backup (excluding the AC and similar) then 2 would be the better choice. Have you already purchased solar? If you are looking at doing solar and battery, I could help with a good deal - email me at jon@mysolarhome.us. Thanks for watching.
Great comparison video. Thanks. What do you think about sonnen.
The Sonnen is a great battery and a very solid company to support the warranty. My only grouse with them is they seem to be overpriced. The Tesla's, Enphase's and Franklin's are equally good, but no as pricey. Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
@@MySolarHomeUSA Thank you so much for your reply and wish you the best.
@@silver___ 🙏Thank you
For load shedding feature in Enphase, do I need a separate critical loads panel or is this completely done via software?
It is done using their software. The critical panel may or may not be there as part of your installation. That is dependent on the number of batteries you buy and the loads you backup. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@MySolarHomeUSA Thanks! I was looking at 4 x Enphase 5p and then maybe also the Span smart panel. Any advice on Span with this configuration? Have a 8kW solar array 20 x 400w REC with IQ8+ microinverters as well.
@@shreyasdube A span panel upgrade is a good idea. It gives you whole home backup and a lot of flexibility in terms of loads to backup and shed. Make sure your installer has prior experience installing a Span panel. Best of Luck.
Thanks!
Thank you very much - your support is awesome.
The PW3 might change all the comparisons which I'm waiting for before I add batteries to my PV system.
Yes, that is the next big battery launch. It will probably be spectacular. Waiting on it.
Very informative video! Does Enphase 5p battery system work with sunpower maxeon 6 modules ?
Yes absolutely, they will work with any kind of panels. Let me know, jon@mysolarhome.us, if you are looking for a quote for solar. And thanks for watching.
I think you might want to double-check the compatibility. @@MySolarHomeUSA
@@ericgould3292 Not sure what you are referring to. Tesla and Franklin are AC coupled and can be retrofitted with any existing or new solar system. Enphase and Solar Edge work only with either Enphase Microinverters or Solar Edge Optimizers respectively. Thanks for watching.
Good video, is the sound poor, or is it my connection?
Thank you. I am not sure - the sound seems to be OK - but some folks have trouble with my accent. Appreciate your watching.
Jon;
It is not your accent, no problem understanding you one bit. I suspect it is rather my rural internet connection.Thanks for all the information on your site.
You have to buy 2 5Ps? Or can you just get one?
No, you can absolutely buy one 5P and that is why this is so flexible. I just compared with 2 5P's because all the other batteries don't even have a smaller size. Many homes will do just fine with only one 5P. Thank you for your comment and for watching.
But Franklin gives you that peak power for 10 WHOLE SECONDS ! How long will endphase deliver the peak power ?
The 5P gives you 12.28 kw for 10 seconds and 15.36 kw for 3 seconds. Franklin is 10 kw for 10 seconds.
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Well that’s all good and fine but when you consider the installation time frame 3 months is just too far out if you want to take advantage of the tax savings for this calendar year. That’s why I’ll be going with the Franklin.
@@savagecub The Franklin is a fine battery. I offer my customers both then Enphase and Franklin as options. I am usually able to offer better prices for the Franklin as well. Best of Luck
Great video. Very informative 👏
@@GerardoRodriguez-ov5se Thank you so very much. Much appreciated. Have a wonderful day.
You forgot to talk about price.
I dont yet have pricing as the batteries are not available in commercial quantities. Probably in the next 3 months, I will have pricing numbers.
How do we get the "best" deal? Just get bunch of quote?
I can give you a quote if you like. Just email your details to me at jon@mysolarhome.us I will get you one good quote and no on will pester you with phone calls and stuff. Thanks for watching.
@@MySolarHomeUSAwhere are you located ? Can I get a quote if I’m in California?
@@anthonyrodriguez533 Hello Anthony, I can certainly help. I have a bunch of customers in California. Please send me an email at jon@mysolahome.us - with a recent electric bill. I will work out some numbers for you and we could chat tomorrow after I send you the numbers. Thank Jon.
Those enphase peak power figures you are mentioning are identical to what I saw in a 2 x iq5p system. I do not think your numbers are correct. It's half that for a single 5p
Hello - yes very perceptive of you. Actually, the comparison I am doing here is with 2 IQ5P batteries (10 kwh) vs the Franklin 13.5kwh etc etc. Hence the peak power figure is twice that for the single battery. Thanks for watching.
*Promo sm*
Not sure if you are referring to the video being a paid promotion. I am not in any way associated with Enphase or remunerated by them. I am in the business of installing solar and I simply find their products outstanding. Thanks for watching.
Enphase does NOT support portable generators.
That is good to know. They have a list of approved generator brands and models.
5P absolutely does with the proper hardware
Enphase unequivocally does not support portable generators.
Annoying background music.
Sorrry. .... have dispensed with music in my new videos.