Before you say these knives are overpriced watch this video and understand this is all done in America from American made materials...th-cam.com/video/mPbUdpQyCdE/w-d-xo.html
I wanted a Medford for years and my first praetorian T I just got, omg talk about jaw dropping beauty I was speechless!!! Especially after you see how they make them, I never wanted another knife after buying my Medford I was like I’m done buying knives! Yeah mine cost over $1k, so worth it!!
I love Medford 💘 not just for the knives but also for the treasure that is businessmen like Greg. I own a business and I love his no nonsense approach to custom knives, and craftsman business in general.
It's actually cpm D2. Way better than regular d2. Also medford heat treat his steel very well. Probably holds up better than most 20cv that has crappy heat treat. Remember people it's not about the steel as much as it's about the heat treat!!
I have a hand full of older Medford’s knives and they are all nice and still my favorite knife that I carried for years is a viper. Awesome knife and I will say D2 is a good everyday steel. Easy to sharpen and polishes out nice. An as far a Greg goes I had a minor issue and he got on the phone and told me how to fix it. Sooooo. Have a bunch of his knives and when I had a issue custom service he personally took care of it.
That's good to know cause I have a 350$ midgard messer with cpm d2 and it's great steel so yeah you've made me say ok cpm d2 know I just hope that g10 is probably great quality to im sure that knife is worth the 400 maybe more like 350 but what's an extra 50 to 75 dollars right if your paying for quality
I currently own, 2 Scout M and P's. 1 Green/1Black. I also own 2 Medford 187 DP's in Titanium with S90V Blades. And I also have a Smooth Criminal. The Medford Scout's are designed for ppl who wear gloves. Yeah it's an amazing knife, (IMO). 👍
You made a good point about large jimping being best used with work gloves. I always take that into consideration when I buy a knife and what I'm going to use it for. This thing is a chunk of a workhorse knife, I would love to have one.
Good Review. Took me a long time to get me a Medford. The Infraction came out, and man I love it. Dont care how much it cost, I use the hell out of it, and it is a workhorse, and a beauty. No Safe Queens! Use your knives! cheers!
Excellent review. Your observations are spot on. I placed an order recently and waiting for my knife to be made 3 weeks , 6months or more (yikes). Thanks.
I have a Medford pretorian ti ( edit) : full custom vulcan blade. I use it daily I wear it out every time I leave the house and I don’t mean opening mail I work outside and I use it every day it’s scrapped and scuffed all up and I love it I’ve had it for 3 years now still sharp and still straight as the day I got it
I agree with you 100%. I don't always agree with all of Gregs comments but he is honest and has conviction. The knives are really cool and American made. If you can, it's great to support American made knives. Medford, Case, GEC, Bear & Son, Buck etc.....
Yesterday when I saw this video I made comments on the cost of this D2 knife. Since then I watched a Medford video "Think you know how a custom Medford knife is actually made?" After viewing it, I would but one....it's a steal. (Pun intended!) Very impressive operation, super close tolerance and you get what you pay for. Is it me but seeing him reminds me of Nutnfancy‽
Medford Infraction is one of my go to EDCs not all Medfords are crazy huge. And Medfords in house heat treat is great. I've got the Infraction and Slim Midi. SM is a little too slim for me, but still a great blade. If getting into Medfords start with full thickness Midi Marauder, Infraction, or Colonial. All "normal" EDC length but you get to feel the Medford thickness, and Medford quality. Hell the Medford lock up sound is just awesome.
@Cutlery Lover : I have 2 Medford Preaetorians M & P, 1Black/1Green. Plus I Have 2 187 DP models. And a Smooth Criminal. I'm very happy with Medford. I think the Quality is by far the best in most AMERICAN MADE knife Manufacturing.
"Every knife has something to offer", damn straight. No hate. Outstanding. People don't get it, a lot of people still get angry in traffic too. Good on you.
I’m not a big Medford user, i have one, it’s not my most expensive knife, but it’s certainly up there. I really like it, and its certainly impressed me more than my Sebenza did. I like my Sebenza, but it didn’t wow me like the Medford or my Rocksteads did, and continue to do. If i want a hard use knife, its my go to, the Rocksteads and ADVs are my favourite EDC’s and the Sebenza tends to sit in the drawer. Enjoyed your video though.
Great video man. Like anything, it's not just about materials, but what a maker does with those materials. Both a Honda Accord and a Ferrari 488 are made out of Steel and Fiberglass. They'll both get you from point A to point B; They're both perfect good cars, but they're far from the same car. Medford also uses steels other than D2. But even so, due to a fantastic heat-treat, their D2 competes with many other makers' knives using "better" steels. Medford's D2 is incredibly well done as is their S35VN. I believe yours is a Praetorian Scout, which is one of their entry level Praetorians.While I'm not always a fan of Medford's politics, I try to focus on the product. The quality of Medford products is undeniable. Almost everyone who criticizes Medfords have never actually owned one. Most people who actually own one are loyal customers. I have a Praetorian T, a micro Praetorian, and an On Belay and they are absolute tanks. While no knife is for everyone, Medfords definitely EDC legend for a reason. 👍🏻
Hey Jeff, I think it's worth mentioning the secondary market price. A Scout can be had sometimes for under 300USD, and the custom knives typically sell for just over half retail on the secondary. There are exceptions of course, but I think a lot of viewers might approach these models more if they knew what secondary market prices are.
Great video man. I have a smooth criminal. You have to check one out. It is one of my favorites. Love it. Try snd get one though. You will love it man.
Nice Medford Jeff i really want one!!! my girlfriend just bought me a second hand grimsmo norseman for $675 for our 5 year anniversary and I absolutely 💯 % LOVE IT.. i want to get another ever though a new one is $925 but they are amazing blades..
Hi, I own a machine shop in Houston, Texas. I'm old. At best there's 40.00 in materials in that knife. The rest I am gonna leave up to free enterprise. I love knives. Have more than most folks. Life is too short to loose their beans over a tool. I have a copy of the knife on the way from china. I was created in the back seat of a 52 Ford. Seen this wonderful country rode into the ground in 3 years. God, Guns & Guts. At all cost, keep all three. Yes I know this video is three years old. I'm old, not stupid.
The first time I handled a sebenza I was pretty blown away. I think at that point tho I had only owned my kershaw leek and a few chinese models like byrd and sanrenmu
@@lindboknifeandtool I only handled it lol. I couldn't afford it. I bought a case mini trapper that day. But feeling out the quality in the action and the lockup was so noticable even to a n00b like me.
Not a fan of the man himself, but the Smooth Criminal is definitely on my list of knives I would like to own, especially if I can get one from the secondhand market
How has the 3 years been with it? I just got one like your but stripped down even more without a glass breaker. I guess I might use it more in a stabby way now since I wont be able to hurt my thumb on the glass breaker. It is 3 weeks old, made on March 11th 2024 on the knife warranty card. Im all ready for hard use adventure now. Bring on the Amazon boxes until the apocalypse. :)
First off I'm all for American made.... and for the record i WANT a Medford and for what your getting and what's involved in making them that's why there so expensive his knives are bulletproof!!!! Last a lifetime..... but also I'm ok with kubey and revo and cjrb!!!
@@johnj.baranski6553 decent enough perspective but at 300 the diminishing returns is also very much a factor, i have a pm2 in m390 that i got for less then 200 i doubt theres going to much better at 100 dollars higher.
Hi Jeff, I have a very interesting question for you. I keep a few old utility knife blades near my desk as a sort-of mock hone steel. Can you tell me if this practice will help to keep the edge of my knife intact or if it’s something I should stop doing? Keep in mind that the most expensive knife that I have is a cold steel peace maker II which I love very much. Thanks for the awesome videos!!
well you can hone your edge on any metal as long as the other metal is harder...But Id say you can find rod hones from kitchen cutlery sets a lot of places super cheap like garage sales or salvation army or ebay
I'm pretty sure that Medford uses CPM d2, NOT regular or Chinese d2 steel. Obviously the CPM d2 is a powdered metal making it superior to any ingot steel when used in blade steels. Nice knife, my friend- i think you will struggle to break it😂👍✌️
Get on Medford university on line and you will see the heat treats and hands on grinding by a human and just the precision and hand fitting of his knives. He makes his own titanium hardware in house , everyone else's are a collaborations with other companies. He heat treats in house and checks hardness 3 times during the process , his accuracy is second to none . He does a lot, so to much to type .THATS WHAT YOU ARE PAYING FOR !! CHECK IT OUT.
To each their own... I would never buy a Medford knife because I don't like him as a person. I met him once at a knife show and it was a bad interaction. I get along with anyone and can talk to anyone... No one can talk to this dude. I'm not paying those prices for something almost unusable
yes I use the terminology interchangeably like CPM154 as apposed to 154CM Ill say 154...But it is important to point out these are different steels with similar makeup but its worth pointing out for sure, Ive found powdered steels to perform better for sure...
Heil Odin no, they don’t. Compare it do a knife with thinner stock and a more acute grind and it will be obvious how poor these knives cut. Take something like a trm atom or even an opinel
@@cutlerylover I thought Microtechs were overpriced until I handled a few. I am not opposed to spending the money if it is well made, and it makes you happy.
@DieselDabz710 Lol! Appreciate the “kid” comment. However, I’m probably old enough to be your father, and using “high-end” knives longer than you’ve been alive. As a FORMER owner of a Strider SMF, I can assure you prying was all that knife was suited for; certainly no real serious cutting. This knife has all the same features: overpriced, and unsuitable to the task it was supposedly designed for. Edit:spelling
I almost bought one but i saw d2 steel and i ended up getting the slim midi in s35vn instead but i hear there is a difference in Chinese d2 and American d2 im not sure if its the truth but im sure the heat treatment done by Medford is gonna be better . As far as greg Medford hes just a no b.s guy nothing wrong with that
I own a Chinese clone of Praetorian, the all steel version, blade is 8cr13mov. It is 320 grams, but I EDC it pretty often, always with a belt on my pants...you know 😄. It is VERY well built, not holding the edge like D2 or Sandvik, but it is expected for the price of 20$. Those of you who are wondering to buy or not a real Praetorian, try the clone and see how you feel it...then you decide.
HRC? Heat treat? Behind the edge thickness? The fact that the tip is designed to be more robust because it's not hollow ground like the rest of the edge so u get the best of both worlds? Checking how thick the pivot is because that's where most of the pressure goes when hard use comes into play? Check how big the washers are because that inhibits side to side play? Mentioning that they went with a stop pin design that is more robust than the traditional sandwich design? All the little things raise the price (just to name a few). Look at the sebenza. They use s35vn (nothing crazy). But they hit the hrc and the heat treat to perform at optimal standards for that steel. I'll bet you could hammer the tip of that medford into a 2x4 and pry it apart without causing any real damage to the knife be it the tip, the lock up or the side to side stability. Knives don't just "cost alot of money" go into some detail, dude
I just got me an American knife from Emerson knives can you guess which one it is 😎 aesthetically speaking I like the Planarian but I think knives should be as thin as possible and still stand up to the abuse that you will give it.
I’m sure they’re very nice knives but like damn. I work in a sporting goods store and we have a case of them cuz our buyers are boomers but don’t sell any.
That is a steep price to pay for D2 and I am no eletest when it comes to steel. Pretty sure Jim Bowie's knife was not made out of some wiz bang laboratory invented material yet we would all love to have his.
Same here man, im not a blade steel snob but something like s35v would have been lot better than D2. Making it more reasonable for the price they're asking.
guys with a medford in their pocket have a huge intersection with people who hang a ballsack off of their truck and have/wear at least 1 flag tattoo or piece of clothing at all times
So this may be a dumb question but here it goes: why would you use D2 on a survival style knife? I get it holds a good edge and is high carbon so is a bit stronger but...it rust no matter what you do if you're actually going to use the blade. Every skinning knife I own is D2 and after a weekend of hunting with any condensation involved and I'm spending the next couple hours polishing off rust. For $450 why not M390 or some kind of stainless? IMO it's fashion over function. If you're going for "The Hunted" look, get a Tom Brown Tracker and get what you pay $400 for.
You're absolutely right. M390 has been used for centuries for every kind of bladed implement. Carbon steel will rust immediately and has never been used in good edged weapons or knives because it's so fragile. Not even oil and regular maintenance will stop carbon steels from rusting. Just buy an M390 chopper or CTS-204P axe if you want to survive
The materials, the liner lock vs the price. No. Looks like something that won't function what a knife is supposed to. I wouldn't pay over 100 bucks for a liner lock. Plus my old Spyderco Manix 2 XL will perform better. Thanks for taking the hit.
I’d be interested in someone doing a actual test on fake or clone knife steels. I doubt the steels a lot of fake/clones knives are really what is stated.
I don’t hate Medford, but $400+ for D2, G-10 and a Liner lock is obviously a turn off. If it had 20-CV and a Titanium Frame lock or button lock it would be different.
You blew my mind when you mentioned that if you had no knowledge of the Medford brand, that knife looks much more like a chunky budget knife. I'm one of those guys that exclusively buys American made knives and I have no issue shelling out the money for them but even then its hard to justify the price when the Microtech Cypher I carry daily uses better materials and is a literal mechanical tool. However, I get that buying $300 to $500 OTFs makes me look crazy too and that's just the way the knife world works so I say to each his own.
I agree with what you said about politics being in the knife world. When benchmade did that ar15 destruction a year or two ago i let my personal feelings get the best of me and I boycotted them for a while. I thought about it for a while and i liked benchmade too much to let politics ruing my love for their knives, i bought the large griptilian with the "spyderhole" a month ago and when i have enough money im gonna be buying a 940
I feel indifferent to them but only because I'm only interested in traditional knives. I've bought alot of modern knives and I always go back to traditional. For me the modern knives have no feeling or history just seems like another idea to make money.
its just different strokes for different folks trhe car hobby is a great example some love that new corvette others would rather have a crusty 67 mustang lol...
@@cutlerylover I get that fully I was just speaking to the point of not being interested for reasons that have nothing to do with medford/his products or whatever he's down with or not. Btw if your interested on blade works they have a massive sale on Al mar knives i just ordered the jigged bone hawk for 37$
I can see nothing about this design that I like or admire, and the manufacturer's Trump enthusiasm further diminishes my desire ever to own one. This feels like a colossal waste of money.
That looks like the outsourced version. The early versions were completely outsourced but the latest have blade ground in house. But he didn't produce handle or blade he just ground it!
This design reminds me of those really gimmicky tactical knives we all have unfortunately gotten when first getting into knives that dont really function too well
Before you say these knives are overpriced watch this video and understand this is all done in America from American made materials...th-cam.com/video/mPbUdpQyCdE/w-d-xo.html
Jeff,
If you decide to trade or sell this, I’d appreciate a heads up. I can provide an email if and when. Thanks.
I wanted a Medford for years and my first praetorian T I just got, omg talk about jaw dropping beauty I was speechless!!! Especially after you see how they make them, I never wanted another knife after buying my Medford I was like I’m done buying knives! Yeah mine cost over $1k, so worth it!!
I love Medford 💘 not just for the knives but also for the treasure that is businessmen like Greg. I own a business and I love his no nonsense approach to custom knives, and craftsman business in general.
Craftsmanship and Medford don’t go in the sentence
I like Greg. He is passionate and stands strong behind his opinions. Stands up for what he believes in.
It's actually cpm D2. Way better than regular d2. Also medford heat treat his steel very well. Probably holds up better than most 20cv that has crappy heat treat. Remember people it's not about the steel as much as it's about the heat treat!!
I have a hand full of older Medford’s knives and they are all nice and still my favorite knife that I carried for years is a viper. Awesome knife and I will say D2 is a good everyday steel. Easy to sharpen and polishes out nice. An as far a Greg goes I had a minor issue and he got on the phone and told me how to fix it. Sooooo. Have a bunch of his knives and when I had a issue custom service he personally took care of it.
That's the main reason why I chose to do business with Greg Medford.
He's Never Let, Me Down.
It's actually a really nice blade....
I know probably alot of people already said but medford uses CPM d2. Not d2. Theyre 2 completely different steels in terms of performance
That's good to know cause I have a 350$ midgard messer with cpm d2 and it's great steel so yeah you've made me say ok cpm d2 know I just hope that g10 is probably great quality to im sure that knife is worth the 400 maybe more like 350 but what's an extra 50 to 75 dollars right if your paying for quality
I have this knife, love it, and an Aussie from Australia, you pay for what you get. And that means over AUD $500 To buy
In Austria u pay 500 only for Taxes
I currently own, 2 Scout M and P's.
1 Green/1Black.
I also own 2 Medford 187 DP's in Titanium with S90V Blades.
And I also have a Smooth Criminal.
The Medford Scout's are designed for ppl who wear gloves. Yeah it's an amazing knife, (IMO). 👍
I have had 2 of these. I finally settled on a scout in s35vn. It’s beautiful. These are def tanks but the cut very well
You made a good point about large jimping being best used with work gloves. I always take that into consideration when I buy a knife and what I'm going to use it for. This thing is a chunk of a workhorse knife, I would love to have one.
ooh.i love the look.i must say I'm all for supporting Lynn Thompson,and cold steel.but the Medford is nice.
Good Review. Took me a long time to get me a Medford. The Infraction came out, and man I love it. Dont care how much it cost, I use the hell out of it, and it is a workhorse, and a beauty. No Safe Queens! Use your knives! cheers!
Thanks for the review 🤟🏼
Excellent review. Your observations are spot on. I placed an order recently and waiting
for my knife to be made 3 weeks , 6months or more (yikes). Thanks.
I have a Medford pretorian ti ( edit) : full custom vulcan blade. I use it daily I wear it out every time I leave the house and I don’t mean opening mail I work outside and I use it every day it’s scrapped and scuffed all up and I love it I’ve had it for 3 years now still sharp and still straight as the day I got it
amazing looking knife. can't wait to get one
I agree with you 100%. I don't always agree with all of Gregs comments but he is honest and has conviction. The knives are really cool and American made. If you can, it's great to support American made knives. Medford, Case, GEC, Bear & Son, Buck etc.....
Yesterday when I saw this video I made comments on the cost of this D2 knife. Since then I watched a Medford video "Think you know how a custom Medford knife is actually made?" After viewing it, I would but one....it's a steal. (Pun intended!) Very impressive operation, super close tolerance and you get what you pay for. Is it me but seeing him reminds me of Nutnfancy‽
Medford Infraction is one of my go to EDCs not all Medfords are crazy huge. And Medfords in house heat treat is great. I've got the Infraction and Slim Midi. SM is a little too slim for me, but still a great blade. If getting into Medfords start with full thickness Midi Marauder, Infraction, or Colonial. All "normal" EDC length but you get to feel the Medford thickness, and Medford quality. Hell the Medford lock up sound is just awesome.
I just got the F.A.S.T gerber covert it’s pretty cool
@Cutlery Lover : I have 2 Medford Preaetorians M & P, 1Black/1Green.
Plus I Have 2 187 DP models. And a Smooth Criminal. I'm very happy with Medford. I think the Quality is by far the best in most AMERICAN MADE knife Manufacturing.
The more I use the knife the more I do want more...
@@cutlerylover : The Praetorian Scouts have a Titanium Liner Lock. That's Heavy Use.
@@cutlerylover : at random times you should wipe down the Blade with oil because of the acid we leave with our finger's. Yeah it's D2 and can rust.
@@thesaltyrant5716
Lol. You just gave Peter North dickin advice....
@@CNYKnifeNerd 😅🤣😂😂
"Every knife has something to offer", damn straight. No hate. Outstanding. People don't get it, a lot of people still get angry in traffic too. Good on you.
I’m not a big Medford user, i have one, it’s not my most expensive knife, but it’s certainly up there. I really like it, and its certainly impressed me more than my Sebenza did. I like my Sebenza, but it didn’t wow me like the Medford or my Rocksteads did, and continue to do. If i want a hard use knife, its my go to, the Rocksteads and ADVs are my favourite EDC’s and the Sebenza tends to sit in the drawer. Enjoyed your video though.
Great video man. Like anything, it's not just about materials, but what a maker does with those materials. Both a Honda Accord and a Ferrari 488 are made out of Steel and Fiberglass. They'll both get you from point A to point B; They're both perfect good cars, but they're far from the same car. Medford also uses steels other than D2. But even so, due to a fantastic heat-treat, their D2 competes with many other makers' knives using "better" steels. Medford's D2 is incredibly well done as is their S35VN. I believe yours is a Praetorian Scout, which is one of their entry level Praetorians.While I'm not always a fan of Medford's politics, I try to focus on the product. The quality of Medford products is undeniable. Almost everyone who criticizes Medfords have never actually owned one. Most people who actually own one are loyal customers. I have a Praetorian T, a micro Praetorian, and an On Belay and they are absolute tanks. While no knife is for everyone, Medfords definitely EDC legend for a reason. 👍🏻
Cool Knife 👍
Bought this same model at my 7-11 corner store. 7 bucks behind the counter special.
No you didn't
Hey Jeff,
I think it's worth mentioning the secondary market price. A Scout can be had sometimes for under 300USD, and the custom knives typically sell for just over half retail on the secondary. There are exceptions of course, but I think a lot of viewers might approach these models more if they knew what secondary market prices are.
Great video man. I have a smooth criminal. You have to check one out. It is one of my favorites. Love it. Try snd get one though. You will love it man.
That knife is stunning
Nice Medford Jeff i really want one!!! my girlfriend just bought me a second hand grimsmo norseman for $675 for our 5 year anniversary and I absolutely 💯 % LOVE IT.. i want to get another ever though a new one is $925 but they are amazing blades..
Tell her a random guy on the internet says that she’s a cool chick
@@lindboknifeandtool she said thanks
i've had a few pretorians and a midi marauder. i like them. not so much that i own one today but i might pick up another one at some point
Glad you enjoy the knife, can't wait to see an update after you use it for a while. I could never bring myself to use it.
Hi, I own a machine shop in Houston, Texas. I'm old. At best there's 40.00 in materials in that knife. The rest I am gonna leave up to free enterprise. I love knives. Have more than most folks. Life is too short to loose their beans over a tool. I have a copy of the knife on the way from china. I was created in the back seat of a 52 Ford. Seen this wonderful country rode into the ground in 3 years. God, Guns & Guts. At all cost, keep all three. Yes I know this video is three years old. I'm old, not stupid.
So its like buying a high end AR. If you have the money get it if you don't than look elsewhere. Knife looks good
The first time I handled a sebenza I was pretty blown away. I think at that point tho I had only owned my kershaw leek and a few chinese models like byrd and sanrenmu
That’s a big jump!
@@lindboknifeandtool I only handled it lol. I couldn't afford it. I bought a case mini trapper that day. But feeling out the quality in the action and the lockup was so noticable even to a n00b like me.
Not a fan of the man himself, but the Smooth Criminal is definitely on my list of knives I would like to own, especially if I can get one from the secondhand market
I don't agree with everything Greg Medford has to say. But he makes the best of the American Made Knifes (imo).
@@thesaltyrant5716 that's what matters though right? Personal shit shouldn't come into play, it's a knife..
How has the 3 years been with it? I just got one like your but stripped down even more without a glass breaker. I guess I might use it more in a stabby way now since I wont be able to hurt my thumb on the glass breaker. It is 3 weeks old, made on March 11th 2024 on the knife warranty card. Im all ready for hard use adventure now. Bring on the Amazon boxes until the apocalypse. :)
I have had my eye on the all black nesferatu Medford auto.
$800 bucks . lotta $$$$$
I appreciate them. But I don't need a sharpened pry bar, but that's just me.
First off I'm all for American made.... and for the record i WANT a Medford and for what your getting and what's involved in making them that's why there so expensive his knives are bulletproof!!!! Last a lifetime..... but also I'm ok with kubey and revo and cjrb!!!
Price is prohibitive to me as well, i dont plan on crossing 300 unless its something spectactular, thats gun money at that point.
You will use a knife way more than a gun. Spend more money on a knife than a gun.
@@johnj.baranski6553 decent enough perspective but at 300 the diminishing returns is also very much a factor, i have a pm2 in m390 that i got for less then 200 i doubt theres going to much better at 100 dollars higher.
I don’t care for Medford for all of the reasons you listed. BUT i like your videos and presentation. I subscribed 👍👍👍
thanks Im glad you enjoyed the video
Love mine
Hi Jeff, I have a very interesting question for you. I keep a few old utility knife blades near my desk as a sort-of mock hone steel. Can you tell me if this practice will help to keep the edge of my knife intact or if it’s something I should stop doing? Keep in mind that the most expensive knife that I have is a cold steel peace maker II which I love very much. Thanks for the awesome videos!!
well you can hone your edge on any metal as long as the other metal is harder...But Id say you can find rod hones from kitchen cutlery sets a lot of places super cheap like garage sales or salvation army or ebay
I wonder today. Does he still have this knife?
Sold off both custom Medfords. Never looked back.
Looks like this years pumpkin destroyer to me👍
the praetorian does not float my boat, however i do drool over the marauder...
I'm pretty sure that Medford uses CPM d2, NOT regular or Chinese d2 steel. Obviously the CPM d2 is a powdered metal making it superior to any ingot steel when used in blade steels. Nice knife, my friend- i think you will struggle to break it😂👍✌️
Can you do a video on how to maintain a edge? Or have you did that already? Thanks for the cool videos
Nice blade
Get on Medford university on line and you will see the heat treats and hands on grinding by a human and just the precision and hand fitting of his knives. He makes his own titanium hardware in house , everyone else's are a collaborations with other companies. He heat treats in house and checks hardness 3 times during the process , his accuracy is second to none . He does a lot, so to much to type .THATS WHAT YOU ARE PAYING FOR !! CHECK IT OUT.
It doesn't matter what blade steel it has, the thickness of the edge makes it unusable for EDC
That's like, your opinion man.
@@Juggalo10p I've owned one and it cuts cardboard worse than a dull butter knife
Wrong again
@@lobotomite9767 sure....
@@dieseldabz7104 okay man I'm not gonna argue with you because you are defending a stupid purchase
I like D2.
To each their own...
I would never buy a Medford knife because I don't like him as a person.
I met him once at a knife show and it was a bad interaction. I get along with anyone and can talk to anyone... No one can talk to this dude.
I'm not paying those prices for something almost unusable
How is it unusable?
Dont like the maker, love the knives. I still have a smooth criminal and had a slim midi marauder👍🏻
I believe Medford uses cpm d2
yes I use the terminology interchangeably like CPM154 as apposed to 154CM Ill say 154...But it is important to point out these are different steels with similar makeup but its worth pointing out for sure, Ive found powdered steels to perform better for sure...
That is one hefty pricey bulky black prybar looking linerlock "knife"...Do you throw this at a task or opponent? More deadly that way lol.
They are basically just a gimmick.
Not really, they cut really well.
Heil Odin no, they don’t. Compare it do a knife with thinner stock and a more acute grind and it will be obvious how poor these knives cut. Take something like a trm atom or even an opinel
@@deathbyastonishment7930 they absolutely cut. What they don't do well is slice.
I love you bro
i have to handle one before I make a decision if they are worth it.
thats ideal for all knives if people, find a local shop that has them its always better to hold one 1st...Another reaoson to go to knife shows :)
@@cutlerylover I thought Microtechs were overpriced until I handled a few. I am not opposed to spending the money if it is well made, and it makes you happy.
Medford Knife and Tool: The world’s most pricey pocket pry bars.
Someone needed to fill the void left by Strider Knives. But... that one was at least s30v and titanium.
Same comment different kid leaving it..
@DieselDabz710 Lol! Appreciate the “kid” comment. However, I’m probably old enough to be your father, and using “high-end” knives longer than you’ve been alive. As a FORMER owner of a Strider SMF, I can assure you prying was all that knife was suited for; certainly no real serious cutting. This knife has all the same features: overpriced, and unsuitable to the task it was supposedly designed for.
Edit:spelling
Talon Sei also owns this knife. He loves it.
The vid that made me sub you and buy a Medford. Thx.
Medford and hinderer which 1 better??? Thank
Jeff, if you ever decide to sell this Scout, let me know. Thanks.
So, does it come in the waterproof hardcase like the other ones?
I almost bought one but i saw d2 steel and i ended up getting the slim midi in s35vn instead but i hear there is a difference in Chinese d2 and American d2 im not sure if its the truth but im sure the heat treatment done by Medford is gonna be better . As far as greg Medford hes just a no b.s guy nothing wrong with that
I own a Chinese clone of Praetorian, the all steel version, blade is 8cr13mov. It is 320 grams, but I EDC it pretty often, always with a belt on my pants...you know 😄. It is VERY well built, not holding the edge like D2 or Sandvik, but it is expected for the price of 20$. Those of you who are wondering to buy or not a real Praetorian, try the clone and see how you feel it...then you decide.
No...don't. This is horrible advice
Also I had the same thoughts about my randal made knife it’s cool but it’s not excalibur
Did you keep it? Or end up loving it and getting a more expensive one? Great review btw!
It's CPM D2 totally diffrent from Plain D2.
is Medford today, what Strider was a few years ago?
Yes. But the Strider used better materials.
HRC? Heat treat? Behind the edge thickness? The fact that the tip is designed to be more robust because it's not hollow ground like the rest of the edge so u get the best of both worlds? Checking how thick the pivot is because that's where most of the pressure goes when hard use comes into play? Check how big the washers are because that inhibits side to side play? Mentioning that they went with a stop pin design that is more robust than the traditional sandwich design? All the little things raise the price (just to name a few). Look at the sebenza. They use s35vn (nothing crazy). But they hit the hrc and the heat treat to perform at optimal standards for that steel. I'll bet you could hammer the tip of that medford into a 2x4 and pry it apart without causing any real damage to the knife be it the tip, the lock up or the side to side stability. Knives don't just "cost alot of money" go into some detail, dude
I just got me an American knife from Emerson knives can you guess which one it is 😎 aesthetically speaking I like the Planarian but I think knives should be as thin as possible and still stand up to the abuse that you will give it.
Would love to own one but would never pay that much for a knife , great video
Cpm D2 actually. They really need to do a better job of promoting that. Better stain resistance and more consistent heat treat than standard
I’m sure they’re very nice knives but like damn. I work in a sporting goods store and we have a case of them cuz our buyers are boomers but don’t sell any.
I would get a Medford in the midi or a pretorion
That is a steep price to pay for D2 and I am no eletest when it comes to steel. Pretty sure Jim Bowie's knife was not made out of some wiz bang laboratory invented material yet we would all love to have his.
Same here man, im not a blade steel snob but something like s35v would have been lot better than D2. Making it more reasonable for the price they're asking.
@@spwan10 I have s35vn on my $80 Cold Steel... it ain't quite a luxury steel or anything
@@Febeleh never said it was a luxury steel that be like A1 an CPM or something. But you obviously missed the point spazmatic dunce👊.
If I had the $$$ I would so EDC that bad boy
guys with a medford in their pocket have a huge intersection with people who hang a ballsack off of their truck and have/wear at least 1 flag tattoo or piece of clothing at all times
I have a bunch. I drive a Porsche and wear a suit. No tattoos
@@johnj.baranski6553 congrats for being outside of the venn diagram intersection
@@b33lze6u6 thanks
Not werry practical too big and bulky .
So this may be a dumb question but here it goes: why would you use D2 on a survival style knife? I get it holds a good edge and is high carbon so is a bit stronger but...it rust no matter what you do if you're actually going to use the blade. Every skinning knife I own is D2 and after a weekend of hunting with any condensation involved and I'm spending the next couple hours polishing off rust. For $450 why not M390 or some kind of stainless? IMO it's fashion over function. If you're going for "The Hunted" look, get a Tom Brown Tracker and get what you pay $400 for.
You're absolutely right. M390 has been used for centuries for every kind of bladed implement. Carbon steel will rust immediately and has never been used in good edged weapons or knives because it's so fragile. Not even oil and regular maintenance will stop carbon steels from rusting. Just buy an M390 chopper or CTS-204P axe if you want to survive
Would love to get a Medford at some point. It will be pricey though.
The materials, the liner lock vs the price. No. Looks like something that won't function what a knife is supposed to. I wouldn't pay over 100 bucks for a liner lock. Plus my old Spyderco Manix 2 XL will perform better. Thanks for taking the hit.
I’d be interested in someone doing a actual test on fake or clone knife steels. I doubt the steels a lot of fake/clones knives are really what is stated.
I don’t hate Medford, but $400+ for D2, G-10 and a Liner lock is obviously a turn off. If it had 20-CV and a Titanium Frame lock or button lock it would be different.
Some have S35VN
You can get all that with a Medford.
You blew my mind when you mentioned that if you had no knowledge of the Medford brand, that knife looks much more like a chunky budget knife. I'm one of those guys that exclusively buys American made knives and I have no issue shelling out the money for them but even then its hard to justify the price when the Microtech Cypher I carry daily uses better materials and is a literal mechanical tool. However, I get that buying $300 to $500 OTFs makes me look crazy too and that's just the way the knife world works so I say to each his own.
@Cutlery Lover : if you still have this knife, I'd like to trade you for a carbon fiber 0452/0562 ZT ! Let me know.
Liner lock? I think you may have gotten a clone. I’ve never seen a liner lock Medford
Bro this no fake, u try seach medford praetorian scout, price usd450 too expensive and use d2 blade only.
I agree with what you said about politics being in the knife world. When benchmade did that ar15 destruction a year or two ago i let my personal feelings get the best of me and I boycotted them for a while. I thought about it for a while and i liked benchmade too much to let politics ruing my love for their knives, i bought the large griptilian with the "spyderhole" a month ago and when i have enough money im gonna be buying a 940
It is good that you have learned to be open minded.
I sold a 20 year Benchmade collection because of that stunt and their political contributions and never looked back.
I feel indifferent to them but only because I'm only interested in traditional knives. I've bought alot of modern knives and I always go back to traditional. For me the modern knives have no feeling or history just seems like another idea to make money.
its just different strokes for different folks trhe car hobby is a great example some love that new corvette others would rather have a crusty 67 mustang lol...
@@cutlerylover I get that fully I was just speaking to the point of not being interested for reasons that have nothing to do with medford/his products or whatever he's down with or not. Btw if your interested on blade works they have a massive sale on Al mar knives i just ordered the jigged bone hawk for 37$
@@blindmelonlemonjello thanks and yeah I knew how you meant it :)
@@cutlerylover right good stuff
looks nice with the Medford signature thick fuller blades but if i was craving for some big knives i'd prob stick with cold steel.
All I have to say my brother... Artisan Cutlery Proponent.
Screw sliced bread, I'm a ripper
I can see nothing about this design that I like or admire, and the manufacturer's Trump enthusiasm further diminishes my desire ever to own one. This feels like a colossal waste of money.
yeah that could be said for a lot of different products lol...
One day...
That looks like the outsourced version. The early versions were completely outsourced but the latest have blade ground in house. But he didn't produce handle or blade he just ground it!
This design reminds me of those really gimmicky tactical knives we all have unfortunately gotten when first getting into knives that dont really function too well
Except there $20