Great... thank you Chris. Really well produced and easy to follow. Ive tried numerous other videos with different methods but I could not get any to work until yours...
This is a great tutorial. I had almost given up on using Kontakt as a multi-timbral instrument in Logic because of the difficulty with adjusting the tracks independently.
Note: before assign a new aux to every track, you should go to the output option in kontakt and select Presets - batch configuration/batch functions/create output section and create one individual channel. That allows to manage every track in solo or mute independently. Also, that process assigns the lead kontakt role track to the first track, instead the last track as the program set by default.
Good tutorial, but did you know you could just skip to check multi timbral instrument and just add Kontakt as multi output in a regular instrument and click "add track" for the auxes? This way you don't have to go to the mixer but can actually solo and mute and automate in the arrange window. Makes for better workflow i think, and i haven't found any disadvantages to it yet. Correct me if i'm wrong.
+Jack Sage I believe the "add track" button he's referring to is the "+" button on your initial multi-instrument track in the mixer. That will pop out the additional aux tracks your instruments will be assigned to, assuming you followed the rest of his output routing steps within kontakt.
What he's saying is rather than having Multi-timbral output from logic, we can use the Aux tracks in the arrange window to use for MIDI as well as mixing, no need for double tracks. By "Add Track" he means "Create Track" for Aux. This method works great, but I'm currently hitting the 255 Aux tracks limit & have to look for a workaround.
Not sure if that's what FM392 meant, but TAV is right. Grab a 16 Part Kontakt Multi routed to 16 Stereo Auxes. In Logic's mixer, "create a track" (on the Main Page) for each Aux. On these, you can draw Automation AND record MIDI data, so you can erase the other 15 MIDI tracks. No need to clutter the Arrange page with double the tracks for nothing.
Thank you for the video,it was really helpful!Anyway,can you please help with one question?I am using Kontakt 5 with logic and while recording i a, rotating knobs in downloaded synth, for example resinance.Logic doesn't see it,what i should do to record this change live? Looking forward to your answer!
Hey Chris, this video totally rocks! I'm new to logic and this helped me a bunch! I know this is a pretty old video, but I am having a hard time re-adding tracks once I've deleted them with this type of set up. For instance...when you first deleted those 12 tracks and turned your session into 4...how would I go about getting those 12 back? Logic will only allow me to add one track via the mixer...not two tracks! I'd ultimately like to have the two tracks for automation abilities. Thanks again!
this might be a dumb question but whats the difference between using plugin instruments instead of the instruments which come with logic? and whats the difference between plugins?
So is that 16 midi channels PER instance of the plug in? So if you had say, 64 different instruments, through say, Kontact, Omnisphere, EWQL Play, and Logic, you could do 16 play instruments for one instance of play, 16 Omnisphere instruments for one instance of Omnisphere, 16 Kontact instruments for one instance of Kontact, and 16 logic instruments per one instance of logic? So in this case you would have 64 different instruments but your CPU usage would only be using 1 instance of Logc, 1 instance of Play, 1 instance of omnisphere and one instance of Kontact? You would running 4 different plug ins through each Midi channel? Do i have that right?
Hi. Thanks for your tutorial. How do you set up for a multi-timbral external hardware keyboard for example? Two independent tracks would suffice as an example. Thanks for your assistance.
Thanks for your help Chris! I could very easily be mistaken but here's what I found after I duplicated your workflow: If you create a folder track in the manner you describe and then mute, solo, or automate the folder track, you'll get both the "aux output" and the original. In your example, this would mean that if you solo the "Tenor" folder, you're going to hear alto and tenor. When I tried it with strings, I tried to solo the bass folder and got bass and violin 1, when I tried to solo the bass aux in the mixer window, the "instance track" of contact was muted, so I couldn't hear any bass. Any ideas? Thanks again for your help.
Don't bother stacking. Just use the Aux track for MIDI and Automation. Delete the MIDI (Software Instrument) tracks for parts 2-16. KEEP ONE or you'll delete the Kontakt Instance.
I have followed this with great care, seeking to get better core distribution from Kontakt Multi's. Sadly it is not effective in this regard. I have found that if I create separate instances go of Kontakt for each instrument then place them in a summing stack I get better core distribution. Anyone got any thoughts on this?
However, I have one question. I have created my folder track however, I notice even though I have the option to mute and solo. When I highlight that track sound isn't produced. I physically have to go into the sub folder and select the track for sound to be produced. Same thing goes with creating and editing MIDI. Any suggestions?
I have an MPC Element (electric MIDI pad) and I want to be able to use it as a keyboard for Logic's own instrument sounds. This seems to be SO hard to set up, practically impossible. Can anyone help? I've tried setting up 16 individual instruments and assigning them to 16 individual MIDI channels... no luck! Do I have to use the Bus?
With Logic X you can create a Multi Tibral with just 1 'part'. Then just add x-number of AUXs to the MultiOutput instrument that are needed. No need to have 8 instrument tracks + 8 AUXs. See Eli Krantzberg's tutorial > www.groove3.com/str/player.php?id=6112&productid=16534&tmpauth=9fcd6b0ea64effb8d9ea880fd8e0840c
If you want to have all automations, solos and faders working in one channel and the option to view your instrument pressing V, you'll have to use 1 instance of Kontakt per instrument....there is no way around this. :/
Recently started trying out Logic. This issue was a huge deal breaker. This video made me look at Logic again. Thank you for the great video!
Great... thank you Chris. Really well produced and easy to follow. Ive tried numerous other videos with different methods but I could not get any to work until yours...
This is a great tutorial. I had almost given up on using Kontakt as a multi-timbral instrument in Logic because of the difficulty with adjusting the tracks independently.
Shift Option N ...... noted. Very cool tip. Very cool demonstration. Thanks for the video.
YOU ARE THE BEST! Thanks for this tutorial !
THANK YOU GOD! I was struggling with omnisphere for SOOO LONG! THANK YOU!
Absolute legend. This has saved me hours. Thank you.
best video I've seen on this topic. Thanks!
Thank you so much for taking the time to explain this!
very nice! thank you for good tips!
This was a great help! Thanks!
This is a very helpful video. Thank you, great Tutorial.
Thank you so much for this video!! So useful..Thanks!
Note: before assign a new aux to every track, you should go to the output option in kontakt and select Presets - batch configuration/batch functions/create output section and create one individual channel. That allows to manage every track in solo or mute independently. Also, that process assigns the lead kontakt role track to the first track, instead the last track as the program set by default.
Good tutorial, but did you know you could just skip to check multi timbral instrument and just add Kontakt as multi output in a regular instrument and click "add track" for the auxes? This way you don't have to go to the mixer but can actually solo and mute and automate in the arrange window. Makes for better workflow i think, and i haven't found any disadvantages to it yet. Correct me if i'm wrong.
+FriskMeister392 Thanks for your explanation! Could you please be slightly more specific? Which "add track" button are you referring to?
+Jack Sage I believe the "add track" button he's referring to is the "+" button on your initial multi-instrument track in the mixer. That will pop out the additional aux tracks your instruments will be assigned to, assuming you followed the rest of his output routing steps within kontakt.
What he's saying is rather than having Multi-timbral output from logic, we can use the Aux tracks in the arrange window to use for MIDI as well as mixing, no need for double tracks.
By "Add Track" he means "Create Track" for Aux.
This method works great, but I'm currently hitting the 255 Aux tracks limit & have to look for a workaround.
Not sure if that's what FM392 meant, but TAV is right. Grab a 16 Part Kontakt Multi routed to 16 Stereo Auxes. In Logic's mixer, "create a track" (on the Main Page) for each Aux. On these, you can draw Automation AND record MIDI data, so you can erase the other 15 MIDI tracks. No need to clutter the Arrange page with double the tracks for nothing.
Life saver!! Thank you!!!!
Thank you for the video,it was really helpful!Anyway,can you please help with one question?I am using Kontakt 5 with logic and while recording i a, rotating knobs in downloaded synth, for example resinance.Logic doesn't see it,what i should do to record this change live?
Looking forward to your answer!
Hey Chris, this video totally rocks! I'm new to logic and this helped me a bunch! I know this is a pretty old video, but I am having a hard time re-adding tracks once I've deleted them with this type of set up.
For instance...when you first deleted those 12 tracks and turned your session into 4...how would I go about getting those 12 back?
Logic will only allow me to add one track via the mixer...not two tracks! I'd ultimately like to have the two tracks for automation abilities.
Thanks again!
This is extremely hidden, but the answer is to go to the Tracks menu in the menu bar. "Track" > "Other" > "New Track with Next MIDI Channel"
this might be a dumb question but whats the difference between using plugin instruments instead of the instruments which come with logic? and whats the difference between plugins?
So is that 16 midi channels PER instance of the plug in? So if you had say, 64 different instruments, through say, Kontact, Omnisphere, EWQL Play, and Logic, you could do 16 play instruments for one instance of play, 16 Omnisphere instruments for one instance of Omnisphere, 16 Kontact instruments for one instance of Kontact, and 16 logic instruments per one instance of logic? So in this case you would have 64 different instruments but your CPU usage would only be using 1 instance of Logc, 1 instance of Play, 1 instance of omnisphere and one instance of Kontact? You would running 4 different plug ins through each Midi channel? Do i have that right?
Hi. Thanks for your tutorial. How do you set up for a multi-timbral external hardware keyboard for example? Two independent tracks would suffice as an example. Thanks for your assistance.
Muito bom.. Thanks.. best video..amazing
Thanks for your help Chris! I could very easily be mistaken but here's what I found after I duplicated your workflow: If you create a folder track in the manner you describe and then mute, solo, or automate the folder track, you'll get both the "aux output" and the original. In your example, this would mean that if you solo the "Tenor" folder, you're going to hear alto and tenor. When I tried it with strings, I tried to solo the bass folder and got bass and violin 1, when I tried to solo the bass aux in the mixer window, the "instance track" of contact was muted, so I couldn't hear any bass. Any ideas? Thanks again for your help.
Don't bother stacking. Just use the Aux track for MIDI and Automation. Delete the MIDI (Software Instrument) tracks for parts 2-16. KEEP ONE or you'll delete the Kontakt Instance.
I have followed this with great care, seeking to get better core distribution from Kontakt Multi's. Sadly it is not effective in this regard. I have found that if I create separate instances go of Kontakt for each instrument then place them in a summing stack I get better core distribution. Anyone got any thoughts on this?
However, I have one question. I have created my folder track however, I notice even though I have the option to mute and solo. When I highlight that track sound isn't produced. I physically have to go into the sub folder and select the track for sound to be produced. Same thing goes with creating and editing MIDI. Any suggestions?
I have an MPC Element (electric MIDI pad) and I want to be able to use it as a keyboard for Logic's own instrument sounds. This seems to be SO hard to set up, practically impossible. Can anyone help? I've tried setting up 16 individual instruments and assigning them to 16 individual MIDI channels... no luck! Do I have to use the Bus?
very helpful
What if I create a multi-timbral instrument with 4 parts, and later decide that I want to add a 5th. Is there a way that can be done?
hey, did you find the answer to this?
No.
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Of course, just add a new Inst in your Kontakt Multi, set it to an Aux and create another Aux in Logic. You can have 16 per instance.
thank you
With Logic X you can create a Multi Tibral with just 1 'part'.
Then just add x-number of AUXs to the MultiOutput instrument that are needed. No need to have 8 instrument tracks + 8 AUXs.
See Eli Krantzberg's tutorial > www.groove3.com/str/player.php?id=6112&productid=16534&tmpauth=9fcd6b0ea64effb8d9ea880fd8e0840c
THANKS!!! Really Helped out for my Spark! :)
If you want to have all automations, solos and faders working in one channel and the option to view your instrument pressing V, you'll have to use 1 instance of Kontakt per instrument....there is no way around this. :/
thank you :)
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TIMbral not TAMbral