Hello you beauties. Access all episodes 10 hours earlier than TH-cam by Subscribing on Spotify - spoti.fi/2LSimPn or Apple Podcasts - apple.co/2MNqIgw. Here’s the timestamps: 00:00 Intro 00:38 Is Shredded Wheat a Superfood? 05:15 Why the Science of Nutrition is So Confusing 12:49 How Important is Organic Produce? 22:17 What’s the Problem with Seed Oils? 31:57 Why Max Isn’t a Carnivore 44:08 Worst Diet for Cognitive Ability 48:58 How to Choose the Right Magnesium Supplement 55:59 Max’s Issue with Mouthwash 1:01:39 How to Know if a Lotion is Really Safe 1:10:23 Supplements You Should Be Aware Of 1:17:15 What the Fitness Community Are Getting Wrong 1:35:30 Where to Find Max
One of the best pieces of advice I’ve ever heard was actually from my dads personal trainer at the time who was a competitive bodybuilder back in the ‘golden era’ and has managed to stay in tremendous shape since retiring from the sport… “If you can’t kill it, dig it from the ground or pick it from a tree/bush, don’t eat it”. More or less, ditch the processed foods. Stick to what is available in the natural world as much as you can.
Thank you Chris for inviting Max Lugavere on your show. In such a contentious, and often acrimonious world of dietary discourse, its rare to find a voice that is fairly balanced in their approach. Its refreshing to hear someone who is not dogmatic in an environment that has increasingly become atomized by dietary camps that more resemble fundamentalist religious sects than groups of people willing to listen to reason and science. In this sea of confusion, Lugavere's advice to use the precautionary principle is a sage one. If a food has been around for millennia, in roughly the same form and eaten in large quantities (e.g. meat), chances are it is not a cause for alarm and any study that seeks to implicate it as the cause of modern disease is probably suspect. If a substance has been introduced recently in human dietary history or was never consumed in large quantities for most of it, such as industrial processed seed oils or white sugar, chances are it is the likely culprit behind whatever maladies are plaguing us.
Great conversation, lots to learn from this. I will say I’ve tried everything from vegan to carnivore and have found that nearly any whole food diet without any processed food makes me feel good (especially when combined with a caloric deficit), each diet has its pros and cons. It’s all about finding your sweet spot…temporarily pulling all carbs out can really scrub out any cravings for ultra processed food and makes you reassess your relationship with food. Namasteak🥩
I discovered Max right after trying to be a vegan for a while and not working out for me. He put into words what my body was trying to say but i was too stubborn to listen.
There are reasons why we are confused. There is so many contradicting ideologies on optimal diet and nutrition AND so many studies backing them up while contradicting other studies. On top of that you have to watch out for bs studies sponsored by the food industry.
It's not that complicated. Eat meat and produce, dairy if you can tolerate it, whole grains if you do well with carbs. Avoid alcohol, sugar, processed food, refined oil. Bonus points if you eat fermented food for gut health. Avoid eating too close to bedtime. If you're training to build strength, which you should be, then aim for at least 0.8g protein per lb of lean body mass. If you train fasted, get protein in ASAP, otherwise at least get protein in within a couple hours of training. And most of all, pay attention to your body. Not everyone responds positively to all food.
The thing is 99% of studies are poorly done and reading the methodology completely dismisses them. The problem is people referring to studies that they just readd the title of and the brief summary and share that. Part of the problem is a lot of people are not aware of how to read quality research as almost all nutrition studies, especially anything with a plant focus are some of the worst quality research papers out there. A lot of plant based research is religiously funded with the intent of trying to prove they're right. It's why it's all either epidemiology studies or animal studies and why they're never over the course of years. Almost all nutrition studies are done very short term with limited focus and range for a reason. There are some truly fantastic studies done out there with 5 year long control studies, that are very well done and provide a lot on insight.
I stopped getting sunburn when I stopped seed oils, making sure to get good quality ruminant protein and saturated fat, plus the occasional veg, and a bit of fruit. No grain either. No sunblock, just coconut oil. I can be out all day in the summer, no problem now.
this same thing happened to me, i went from very easily sunburned, to barely any sunburn anymore, but its one of the craziest things to tell people, they look at you like you're claiming to have magic spell abilities, its very hard for them to believe
I’m a white 49yr old male. This happened to me…but I never ate seed oils. I just started losing weight, eating better (not great), and light exercise my chronic pain allows. Something though changed after my divorce. Eating my own choices. I stopped getting sunburns or blisters. Just suddenly got my 15yr old skin back. 😂 I wonder if it’s the collagen supplements?
9:50 Healthy User Bias - Mediterranean Diets aren't necessarily better because they also could just be healthier as a whole from other things 12:20 There are zero long term studies or studies in general that show that red meat has any negative effect 15:50 Saturated Fats are beneficial and Improve Mitochondria Function 20:00 Mindset Towards Food should be Guilty until Proven Innocent 30:30 Seed Oils are not good because there is inadequate long-term research, and they potentially cause inflammation
Absolutely phenomenal interview! This is the first time I've come across Max. He reaffirmed a number of things and introduced me to some new ideas, such as the one about wild salmon/algae helping to protect against the sun. There's so much contention with seed oils right now, it's nice to hear an expert talk more about it.
This was awesome! You guys asked and answered and addressed all the same stuff I was wondering or suspecting all in a easy casual/conversational consumable (no pun intended lol) format thank you! 🙏
Does nutrition have to be so complicated ? just eat a broad range of fresh foods (fruit veg meat etc) and keep active, with that as a basis you can't go too far wrong.
But that would be way too easy. We'd eat our food then have to face the fact most of our lives are empty and have no meaning. For most of human history we ate what was available. I think relative ease and abundance have driven us insane. I'll even go out on a limb and say something like veganism is a borderline mental illness. Endangering your own well being because you don't want to consume any animal product but will eat all kinds of brigthly packaged Frankenstein alternatives is so strange . If Gavin from Hastings tells a local newspaper he's only eaten cheese and onion crisps for the last 23 years and vegetables cause him to have seizures you go well he's a nut case or must be on spectrum. Someone choses to be a vegan and and has the same attitude to cheese or milk and that's a life style. Go figure.
@@garethmorgan3665 I think vegans a psychologically damaged which presents itself as unnatural behavior/eating habits. I've known people who have "transitioned" to veganism and during that process they feel sick, they get the shits, lack energy and are basically run down till their body adjusts (with dietary supplements) and I'm thinking, listen to your body, it's telling you, what you're doing is wrong !
Max is really cogent and knowledgeable about a subject which is truly a mystery to most of the world today yet also an unavoidable foundation in each of lives at the same time.
Ice cream is fine. Just stick to the high quality stuff with cream as the first ingredient. I'm impartial to a local brand that keeps the ingredients basic and simple.
Thanks Chris, I thought all these "seed oil" haters were crazy. I didn't realise that "seed oil" isn't actually "seed oil" but rather "end product of lengthy industrial process that started with seed oil related by-products of other industries."
Nice one Chris. You should check out Todd Rose and his work on 'Collective Illusions'. I am sure you would enjoy what this man has to share. Mind blowing.
It seems the key variable is the volume of food and the key variable interferes with the algorithm of any said diet when trying to work out its effect. My observations suggest too much is always the issue and having high blood levels of anything is a negative and creating a place for nutrition and chemicals to go and preventing a build up is what overall leads to a healthy mechanism ( body ) So don’t eat too much and move a lot seems to be the best possible message.
Just try what works for you. I tried every single diet going right back to Gillian Mckeiths you are what you eat. Then I went whole30 then I went Paleo then I did the zone diet then I became a pescatarian then I went no meat for a while then I did a high protein diet. Then I tried Keto. Then I did carnivore nothing even came close to carnivore. A nutritionist would never advocate it but the benefits I have had are ridiculous. Every other way of eating I tried just doesnt even come close. Just try everything and find the right diet for you. No nutritionist is an expert I don’t care what anyone says we still know next to nothing on how it works partly because all the “science” is done by companies whom are looking to show why their addictive, sugar filled product is actually “healthy” and you should eat that. Nutrition science is changing all the time.
Animals that do not benefit from them do not have our colour vision spectrum. There is a reason we see all the colours, because our physiology seeks colourful plants for these compounds. Ruminants don’t even have our colour vision because they are meant to eat grass.
I use a zinc oxide based sunscreen but I live in a tropical country and even according to my MD mates, they say that risk of skin cancer is so high, sunscreen is still better for you in a risk to reward sense. They even recommend baby powder for your crotch if you're male(female genitals are more sensitive and absorbent so not for them) even though its carcinogenic because developing skin diseases from the humidity every month or so is worse for your skin.
It’s not that there’s not enough nutritional information out there. It’s more that there’s too much and you have to spend inordinate amount of time sorting through all of it and then you have to go back and second-guess the studies for their authenticity or their motives. Additionally, you have to sort out diet advice that ranges from you wanting to lose a few pounds in the short term for some event or whether it’s a lifestyle diet where you’re gonna eat it for the rest of your life. And just as a cherry on top, you have to consider the amount of prep work that goes into making meals versus finding ones that are already made for you and how healthy they are for you. I don’t hate ultra-processed foods because they kind of got us here. I don’t know how you feed a planet of whatever we’re at, like 11 billion people now, without this kind of industry, I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect everybody to be able to prep a weeks worth of meals or create whole food meals every single day. I try to and I’m mostly successful at it but I think that’s the exception, not the rule.
the thing is that these companies are financed by big corpo and the gov ,that in part is sold to big corpo, thats why i love the internet they cant control these many ppl yea that means miss information too but the amount of books, courses and free info i got just bc there is ppl willing to help your well being is amazing
It hurts to hear this guy giving asinine, corrupt researchers the benefit of the doubt at the beginning. "We have differing views on the value of protein." That's because the researcher gets paid to support the marketing and sales of the cheapest schlock that can be engineered into something palatable.
He talked about salt being an issue but what about Himalayan salt? I never use table salt but I sea salt and Himalayan salt still have the same affects?
Salt is not the same as sodium. So not all “salts” you buy are the same. Himalayan or other unrefined salts contain more minerals and other compounds and less sodium than refined and processed salt, such as iodized for example, which is almost 100% sodium chloride and has different effects on the body. Over consumption of anything is bad, but salt is necessary like the sun. It’s hard to overdo salt if you sweat a lot and don’t eat processed and pre-made foods.
Been listening and following the work of professor tim noakes who advocates for a high fat & protein low carb lifestyle with leafy greens. Cured my 2 year battle with gastro intestinal discomfort and heaps more energy.
Max is a cool guy but still falls in line with the "glucose bad" stance. One thing diet influences never tell you about is the side effects of demonizing entire macronuteints and the havoc it reaks and your hormonal system through upregulation of glucagon, cortisol and adrenaline. I love his point on seed oils, but at some point he has to realize that fish oil is also unsaturated and immunosupressive too which is why it's given to transplant patients.
@@big_chungus73 okay. Layne is pretty good. Thats for sure. Just the majority of health experts are extremely predictable. It almost feels like they are all just watching eachithers podcasts without actually learning any physiology. Layne knows his stuff much better.
That makes no sense to be concerned about. The liver will always provide the small amount of glucose we need. It's not at all important or something we need to worry about. As long as you eat a form of protein that's able to be digested aka nothing with a cell wall then your body will make cholesterol and then create your sex hormones. Glucose has absolutely nothing to do with that process at all.
43:20 - Leafy greens are not the most nutrient dense foods. His arguments fall completely flat, since we know beef liver has far more folate than spinach, and it’s actually bioavailable (which probably isn’t true for spinach). People who claim we need leafy greens are mostly basing it on magical thinking (“phytonutrients” that are poorly defined). When you ask them what actual nutrients spinach has (since it contains almost no macronutrients, and mostly non-bioavailable micronutrients) they have no rational response.
No, google studies with spinach. Lutein in it preserves cognitive function. Other compounds lower blood pressure. There are actual studies proving the benefits of plant compounds in animals and humans you can’t just deny that the have benefits because you don’t want to believe them 😅. Many lengthen the lives of mice by over 10% for example the compounds in adaptive herbs like rhodolea. Yes liver is king on terms of nourishing nutrients but you won’t find as many studies on protective benefits on people who do not have nutritional deficiencies. Both are great for a healthy whole food diet no need to even compare them unless your a retarted carnivore and think plants are trying to murder you 😂
1:31 It's not "the wrong way", however very recent study shows a plethora of additional benefits to early morning feeding protocol. There are however other things one needs to consider like how each food affects them (or food in general), what their lifestyle and environment is like etc. PS I occasionally burst fish oil capsules too and they generally don't smell bad but if I burp a short time after swallowing the flavour is just overpowering lmao
What about all the plant defence chemicals? Lectins, oxalates, phytic acid, tannins, phytoestrogens, glycoalkaloids and so much more. Plants clearly don’t want to be eaten😂 the leaves, stem and seeds are the most defended part of the plant against predation. Only the fruit is the part of the plant that wants to be eaten... this should be common sense
The sun is absolutely great and medicinal, but for someone born of northern european heritage(ie super light skin) to grow up in colorado (300 days of sun, closer to the sun) i can tell you it can also be super dangerous- my sister and I have brushed up with skin cancer without being all that outdoorsy...
Yeah, my mother in law is into that shit "getting used to sunburn or adopting". My husband is ginger with extremely light skin was being "adopted" as a child. Had to remove precancerous spots later. Same for my mil, she had bad moles removed, still believes sun is good.
@@wisdomandy9361 Since no diet is "good for everyone", does it stand to reason that the most optimal human diet is the one that benefits the largest number of people?
@@wisdomandy9361 paleo includes nuts, seeds and other plant matter which is highly defended chemically. And yeah, some people can’t tolerate much carbs, but the main reason is metabolic disfunction.
Lost me right the end w. his poor take on intermittent fasting. I fast 7 days a week from 10pm to 2pm, I'm awake at 5am... and I'm NEVER hungry from 5am to 2pm, in fact I regularly forget to eat until I check the clock. Even Chris wrapped that trash advice up without even mentioning it, just ending the show.
This is the problem with nutrition. There is no one size fits all approach as many have already said in the comments, It’s massively individual. You have to put the work in yourself to find what works. Unfortunately too many people just like to be told what to do, instead of actually researching and just trying stuff for themselves to see what works for them.
@@ハク-q6e1j I mean that’s the thing right, our diet is so diverse compared to other species. But you’re right, environment also plays a part in diet. I think it gets more complicated when you live in the west for example where you have so many options available, you kinda have to work out what works, compared to someone who is basically a result of the environment they live in. Which we all are I guess to varying levels.
Chris, I'm a fan. But Lugavere is not the person to talk to about nutrition. Peter Attia, Layne Norton, Rhonda Patrick, Gil Carvalho... These are people who know what they're talking about.
Lost me at oxalates, which he clearly has no idea what they are or what they do, particularly in regards to calcium absorption. Rest of it is the same thing everyone says. Boring
Hello you beauties. Access all episodes 10 hours earlier than TH-cam by Subscribing on Spotify - spoti.fi/2LSimPn or Apple Podcasts - apple.co/2MNqIgw. Here’s the timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:38 Is Shredded Wheat a Superfood?
05:15 Why the Science of Nutrition is So Confusing
12:49 How Important is Organic Produce?
22:17 What’s the Problem with Seed Oils?
31:57 Why Max Isn’t a Carnivore
44:08 Worst Diet for Cognitive Ability
48:58 How to Choose the Right Magnesium Supplement
55:59 Max’s Issue with Mouthwash
1:01:39 How to Know if a Lotion is Really Safe
1:10:23 Supplements You Should Be Aware Of
1:17:15 What the Fitness Community Are Getting Wrong
1:35:30 Where to Find Max
One of the best pieces of advice I’ve ever heard was actually from my dads personal trainer at the time who was a competitive bodybuilder back in the ‘golden era’ and has managed to stay in tremendous shape since retiring from the sport…
“If you can’t kill it, dig it from the ground or pick it from a tree/bush, don’t eat it”.
More or less, ditch the processed foods. Stick to what is available in the natural world as much as you can.
Here's a weird one that pretty much asserts the same purchases;
Stick to the parameter of the grocery store and avoid the center isles.
I guess you should avoid the antibiotics and growth, hormones, and all the other crap is pumped into those animals then huh?
Thank you Chris for inviting Max Lugavere on your show. In such a contentious, and often acrimonious world of dietary discourse, its rare to find a voice that is fairly balanced in their approach. Its refreshing to hear someone who is not dogmatic in an environment that has increasingly become atomized by dietary camps that more resemble fundamentalist religious sects than groups of people willing to listen to reason and science.
In this sea of confusion, Lugavere's advice to use the precautionary principle is a sage one. If a food has been around for millennia, in roughly the same form and eaten in large quantities (e.g. meat), chances are it is not a cause for alarm and any study that seeks to implicate it as the cause of modern disease is probably suspect. If a substance has been introduced recently in human dietary history or was never consumed in large quantities for most of it, such as industrial processed seed oils or white sugar, chances are it is the likely culprit behind whatever maladies are plaguing us.
I wish information from conversations like these were more heavily covered in high school and college curricula.
LMAO. That's hilarious. That. Will. Never. Happen.
@@HH-el8vp ha, it's true
@@HH-el8vp not with that attitude
Max is a rational guy and he backs up his logic with science. Great chat
Great conversation, lots to learn from this. I will say I’ve tried everything from vegan to carnivore and have found that nearly any whole food diet without any processed food makes me feel good (especially when combined with a caloric deficit), each diet has its pros and cons. It’s all about finding your sweet spot…temporarily pulling all carbs out can really scrub out any cravings for ultra processed food and makes you reassess your relationship with food. Namasteak🥩
I discovered Max right after trying to be a vegan for a while and not working out for me. He put into words what my body was trying to say but i was too stubborn to listen.
There are reasons why we are confused.
There is so many contradicting ideologies on optimal diet and nutrition AND so many studies backing them up while contradicting other studies. On top of that you have to watch out for bs studies sponsored by the food industry.
And sadly that is most of the studies out there.
It's not that complicated. Eat meat and produce, dairy if you can tolerate it, whole grains if you do well with carbs. Avoid alcohol, sugar, processed food, refined oil. Bonus points if you eat fermented food for gut health. Avoid eating too close to bedtime. If you're training to build strength, which you should be, then aim for at least 0.8g protein per lb of lean body mass. If you train fasted, get protein in ASAP, otherwise at least get protein in within a couple hours of training. And most of all, pay attention to your body. Not everyone responds positively to all food.
The thing is 99% of studies are poorly done and reading the methodology completely dismisses them. The problem is people referring to studies that they just readd the title of and the brief summary and share that. Part of the problem is a lot of people are not aware of how to read quality research as almost all nutrition studies, especially anything with a plant focus are some of the worst quality research papers out there. A lot of plant based research is religiously funded with the intent of trying to prove they're right. It's why it's all either epidemiology studies or animal studies and why they're never over the course of years. Almost all nutrition studies are done very short term with limited focus and range for a reason. There are some truly fantastic studies done out there with 5 year long control studies, that are very well done and provide a lot on insight.
Thank you Max, your work is second to none.
I stopped getting sunburn when I stopped seed oils, making sure to get good quality ruminant protein and saturated fat, plus the occasional veg, and a bit of fruit. No grain either. No sunblock, just coconut oil. I can be out all day in the summer, no problem now.
this same thing happened to me, i went from very easily sunburned, to barely any sunburn anymore, but its one of the craziest things to tell people, they look at you like you're claiming to have magic spell abilities, its very hard for them to believe
I’m a white 49yr old male.
This happened to me…but I never ate seed oils. I just started losing weight, eating better (not great), and light exercise my chronic pain allows.
Something though changed after my divorce. Eating my own choices. I stopped getting sunburns or blisters. Just suddenly got my 15yr old skin back. 😂
I wonder if it’s the collagen supplements?
9:50 Healthy User Bias - Mediterranean Diets aren't necessarily better because they also could just be healthier as a whole from other things
12:20 There are zero long term studies or studies in general that show that red meat has any negative effect
15:50 Saturated Fats are beneficial and Improve Mitochondria Function
20:00 Mindset Towards Food should be Guilty until Proven Innocent
30:30 Seed Oils are not good because there is inadequate long-term research, and they potentially cause inflammation
Absolutely phenomenal interview! This is the first time I've come across Max. He reaffirmed a number of things and introduced me to some new ideas, such as the one about wild salmon/algae helping to protect against the sun.
There's so much contention with seed oils right now, it's nice to hear an expert talk more about it.
This was awesome! You guys asked and answered and addressed all the same stuff I was wondering or suspecting all in a easy casual/conversational consumable (no pun intended lol) format thank you! 🙏
chriss williamson channel is goated bringing so much applicable knowledge for those who care about their health
Ppl need to stop saying “goat”. It’s been overused and ruined.
@@jnnx I agree. It's annoying. Everyone is a goat at this point -_-
Does nutrition have to be so complicated ? just eat a broad range of fresh foods (fruit veg meat etc) and keep active, with that as a basis you can't go too far wrong.
But that would be way too easy. We'd eat our food then have to face the fact most of our lives are empty and have no meaning. For most of human history we ate what was available. I think relative ease and abundance have driven us insane. I'll even go out on a limb and say something like veganism is a borderline mental illness. Endangering your own well being because you don't want to consume any animal product but will eat all kinds of brigthly packaged Frankenstein alternatives is so strange . If Gavin from Hastings tells a local newspaper he's only eaten cheese and onion crisps for the last 23 years and vegetables cause him to have seizures you go well he's a nut case or must be on spectrum. Someone choses to be a vegan and and has the same attitude to cheese or milk and that's a life style. Go figure.
@@garethmorgan3665 I think vegans a psychologically damaged which presents itself as unnatural behavior/eating habits. I've known people who have "transitioned" to veganism and during that process they feel sick, they get the shits, lack energy and are basically run down till their body adjusts (with dietary supplements) and I'm thinking, listen to your body, it's telling you, what you're doing is wrong !
Did you even watch the video?
@@garethmorgan3665
Joe bloggs: just eat a variety of fresh wholefoods and exercise. Can't go too wrong
You: Yeah... But fuck vegans!
Max is really cogent and knowledgeable about a subject which is truly a mystery to most of the world today yet also an unavoidable foundation in each of lives at the same time.
wow....I hope more listen to this.. great guest Chris... Max thank you!
Yea where are the views?!?! The world doesn’t care about food intelligence.
watching this while eating some fresh paella has totally different meaning
Me eating a pint of ben and Jerry's nodding along to a health expert.
Hey man it be like that sometimes.
That’s all on you, BUD.
Free of seed oils. That's a win, my dude.
Ice cream is fine. Just stick to the high quality stuff with cream as the first ingredient. I'm impartial to a local brand that keeps the ingredients basic and simple.
Ben and Jerry's ice cream = cream = protein.
Protein, you're eating a pint of protein. 👍
Thanks Chris, I thought all these "seed oil" haters were crazy. I didn't realise that "seed oil" isn't actually "seed oil" but rather "end product of lengthy industrial process that started with seed oil related by-products of other industries."
Nice one Chris. You should check out Todd Rose and his work on 'Collective Illusions'. I am sure you would enjoy what this man has to share. Mind blowing.
great podcast
Chris.
Can you send a link to your preferred exercise desk?
(see how you rate em and you've already road tested it)
Yes, please :)
+1
Great episode! Only just come across your channel Chris but happy I stumbled into this gem.
It seems the key variable is the volume of food and the key variable interferes with the algorithm of any said diet when trying to work out its effect. My observations suggest too much is always the issue and having high blood levels of anything is a negative and creating a place for nutrition and chemicals to go and preventing a build up is what overall leads to a healthy mechanism ( body )
So don’t eat too much and move a lot seems to be the best possible message.
Great bulking advice at the end, thx 😂👌🏼
Just try what works for you. I tried every single diet going right back to Gillian Mckeiths you are what you eat. Then I went whole30 then I went Paleo then I did the zone diet then I became a pescatarian then I went no meat for a while then I did a high protein diet. Then I tried Keto. Then I did carnivore nothing even came close to carnivore. A nutritionist would never advocate it but the benefits I have had are ridiculous. Every other way of eating I tried just doesnt even come close. Just try everything and find the right diet for you. No nutritionist is an expert I don’t care what anyone says we still know next to nothing on how it works partly because all the “science” is done by companies whom are looking to show why their addictive, sugar filled product is actually “healthy” and you should eat that. Nutrition science is changing all the time.
You've not gone vegan, high carb, raw vegan or fruitarian. Not saying you should just, you've not tried everything.
@@lolsaXx he also hasn't gone McDonaldian, but I think he's covered most of the healthy diet bases
Well, check out Weston A. Price foundation. In my opinion one of the best diet recommendation out there.
Well, where then you getting your potassium, magnesium. Your body needs them, which means you should have foods that have them.
@@alisherxolmirzayev4203 I do take electrolytes. That’s the only supplement I take because I was getting the carnivore leg cramps
Please bring on Dr Michael Greger on nutrition. The man knows his stuff.
I agree!
Does he
Please don’t.
@@alex_4trth yes. He's very well read on the literature and peer reviewed research.
Very biased and exaggerated
In my opinion, the hormetic stress argument of vegetables seems like a rationalisation and reframing of consuming potentially damaging substances
Animals that do not benefit from them do not have our colour vision spectrum. There is a reason we see all the colours, because our physiology seeks colourful plants for these compounds. Ruminants don’t even have our colour vision because they are meant to eat grass.
I use a zinc oxide based sunscreen but I live in a tropical country and even according to my MD mates, they say that risk of skin cancer is so high, sunscreen is still better for you in a risk to reward sense.
They even recommend baby powder for your crotch if you're male(female genitals are more sensitive and absorbent so not for them) even though its carcinogenic because developing skin diseases from the humidity every month or so is worse for your skin.
Great episode
It’s not that there’s not enough nutritional information out there. It’s more that there’s too much and you have to spend inordinate amount of time sorting through all of it and then you have to go back and second-guess the studies for their authenticity or their motives. Additionally, you have to sort out diet advice that ranges from you wanting to lose a few pounds in the short term for some event or whether it’s a lifestyle diet where you’re gonna eat it for the rest of your life. And just as a cherry on top, you have to consider the amount of prep work that goes into making meals versus finding ones that are already made for you and how healthy they are for you. I don’t hate ultra-processed foods because they kind of got us here. I don’t know how you feed a planet of whatever we’re at, like 11 billion people now, without this kind of industry, I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect everybody to be able to prep a weeks worth of meals or create whole food meals every single day. I try to and I’m mostly successful at it but I think that’s the exception, not the rule.
"Common sense is not that common nowadays" - 10/10
Trite.
IS OIL PULLING (COCONUT OIL) A SAFE ALTERNATIVE FOR A MOUTHWASH THAT CAN BE USED AT ANYTIME OF DAY OR NIGHT?
Dude looks like tom hardy fused with macaulay culkin. Not insulting him, he doesn't look bad or anything, I'm just saying, Tomcaulay Hardkin.
Hilarious and accurate
Lmfao 😂
I can't unsee it now.
Great advice, think I was using mouthwash too much
Just listened to genius foods, excellent info
the thing is that these companies are financed by big corpo and the gov ,that in part is sold to big corpo, thats why i love the internet they cant control these many ppl yea that means miss information too but the amount of books, courses and free info i got just bc there is ppl willing to help your well being is amazing
Brilliant 👍
Who was the woman you mentioned with the auto immune disorder? I would like to listen to that podcast.
That would be Mikayla Peterson. She has a TH-cam channel.
It hurts to hear this guy giving asinine, corrupt researchers the benefit of the doubt at the beginning. "We have differing views on the value of protein." That's because the researcher gets paid to support the marketing and sales of the cheapest schlock that can be engineered into something palatable.
*Dr. Paul Saladino Please.
He talked about salt being an issue but what about Himalayan salt? I never use table salt but I sea salt and Himalayan salt still have the same affects?
Because its literally the same
Salt is not the same as sodium. So not all “salts” you buy are the same. Himalayan or other unrefined salts contain more minerals and other compounds and less sodium than refined and processed salt, such as iodized for example, which is almost 100% sodium chloride and has different effects on the body. Over consumption of anything is bad, but salt is necessary like the sun. It’s hard to overdo salt if you sweat a lot and don’t eat processed and pre-made foods.
Can anyone link or specify the desk bike used?
This is simply shocking. I am in shock. This whole time i've been pronouncing quinoa like this "key noah"
I pronounced it "kwinoah" for ages until I heard it spoken by others
Would love to know who did and didn’t vax in the health podcast world! So curious 🧐
Why? It's a personal choice.
You can't make money off healthy people without addictions. It's all you need to know to understand food/pharma/science industry.
Been listening and following the work of professor tim noakes who advocates for a high fat & protein low carb lifestyle with leafy greens. Cured my 2 year battle with gastro intestinal discomfort and heaps more energy.
Dr Jason Fung has a cult following - would make a great episode
I second this!
Fung is my hero, changed my life
Stick to the basics
Chicken broccoli rice
Nutritionally devoid
Is that you, Derek? 😂
Max is a cool guy but still falls in line with the "glucose bad" stance. One thing diet influences never tell you about is the side effects of demonizing entire macronuteints and the havoc it reaks and your hormonal system through upregulation of glucagon, cortisol and adrenaline. I love his point on seed oils, but at some point he has to realize that fish oil is also unsaturated and immunosupressive too which is why it's given to transplant patients.
absolutely. bodies run on glucose, brains run on glucose, it's stupid to demonize it.
@@mvondoom Your body will make it even if you don't consume it. Most people overdose it massively.
The only thing I disagree with is that there ARE some influencers, namely Layne Norton, that will tell you not to demonize an entire macronutrient.
@@big_chungus73 okay. Layne is pretty good. Thats for sure. Just the majority of health experts are extremely predictable. It almost feels like they are all just watching eachithers podcasts without actually learning any physiology. Layne knows his stuff much better.
That makes no sense to be concerned about. The liver will always provide the small amount of glucose we need. It's not at all important or something we need to worry about. As long as you eat a form of protein that's able to be digested aka nothing with a cell wall then your body will make cholesterol and then create your sex hormones. Glucose has absolutely nothing to do with that process at all.
43:20 - Leafy greens are not the most nutrient dense foods. His arguments fall completely flat, since we know beef liver has far more folate than spinach, and it’s actually bioavailable (which probably isn’t true for spinach). People who claim we need leafy greens are mostly basing it on magical thinking (“phytonutrients” that are poorly defined). When you ask them what actual nutrients spinach has (since it contains almost no macronutrients, and mostly non-bioavailable micronutrients) they have no rational response.
No, google studies with spinach. Lutein in it preserves cognitive function. Other compounds lower blood pressure. There are actual studies proving the benefits of plant compounds in animals and humans you can’t just deny that the have benefits because you don’t want to believe them 😅. Many lengthen the lives of mice by over 10% for example the compounds in adaptive herbs like rhodolea.
Yes liver is king on terms of nourishing nutrients but you won’t find as many studies on protective benefits on people who do not have nutritional deficiencies.
Both are great for a healthy whole food diet no need to even compare them unless your a retarted carnivore and think plants are trying to murder you 😂
I can tell you how to eat a perfect human diet in two words or less.
People are confused about most things…
(Did not watch this video, just responding to the title)
Invite Dr. Michael Greger.
Snake Oiler
Don’t..
1:31 It's not "the wrong way", however very recent study shows a plethora of additional benefits to early morning feeding protocol. There are however other things one needs to consider like how each food affects them (or food in general), what their lifestyle and environment is like etc.
PS I occasionally burst fish oil capsules too and they generally don't smell bad but if I burp a short time after swallowing the flavour is just overpowering lmao
What about all the plant defence chemicals? Lectins, oxalates, phytic acid, tannins, phytoestrogens, glycoalkaloids and so much more. Plants clearly don’t want to be eaten😂 the leaves, stem and seeds are the most defended part of the plant against predation. Only the fruit is the part of the plant that wants to be eaten... this should be common sense
He is wrong on plants. Fruit in moderation OK for most, but veggies are toxic and a waste of time, money and energy.
1:30:00 Well I be damned so the people saying you get fat if you eat after 18 were right all along :P
The sun is absolutely great and medicinal, but for someone born of northern european heritage(ie super light skin) to grow up in colorado (300 days of sun, closer to the sun) i can tell you it can also be super dangerous- my sister and I have brushed up with skin cancer without being all that outdoorsy...
Yeah, my mother in law is into that shit "getting used to sunburn or adopting". My husband is ginger with extremely light skin was being "adopted" as a child. Had to remove precancerous spots later. Same for my mil, she had bad moles removed, still believes sun is good.
Meat and whole veggies. Best no thought diet ever.
Let me guess - remove seed oils, remove carbs, go Keto or Carnivore?
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Nope
Carnivore diet plus fruit and raw honey is literally the most optimal human diet.
@@wisdomandy9361 Since no diet is "good for everyone", does it stand to reason that the most optimal human diet is the one that benefits the largest number of people?
@@wisdomandy9361 paleo includes nuts, seeds and other plant matter which is highly defended chemically. And yeah, some people can’t tolerate much carbs, but the main reason is metabolic disfunction.
That dude said the word 'like' 237 times in 90 minutes
Lost me right the end w. his poor take on intermittent fasting. I fast 7 days a week from 10pm to 2pm, I'm awake at 5am... and I'm NEVER hungry from 5am to 2pm, in fact I regularly forget to eat until I check the clock. Even Chris wrapped that trash advice up without even mentioning it, just ending the show.
This is the problem with nutrition. There is no one size fits all approach as many have already said in the comments, It’s massively individual.
You have to put the work in yourself to find what works.
Unfortunately too many people just like to be told what to do, instead of actually researching and just trying stuff for themselves to see what works for them.
@@ハク-q6e1j I mean that’s the thing right, our diet is so diverse compared to other species.
But you’re right, environment also plays a part in diet.
I think it gets more complicated when you live in the west for example where you have so many options available, you kinda have to work out what works, compared to someone who is basically a result of the environment they live in. Which we all are I guess to varying levels.
It's his opinion, but he can't be that sure as he admits he fast's in the morning.
Interestingly enough, there is no vegan indigenous tribe in the world. If there was one RIP.
except the justice system in America has been communized and is now "Guilty and can't be proven innocent, unless you're part of the appropriate group"
Keen-WA.
are you gonna upload the full ep with Mark Normand on youtube?
Indeed! Next week
@@ChrisWillx cock tease!
Chris, I'm a fan. But Lugavere is not the person to talk to about nutrition. Peter Attia, Layne Norton, Rhonda Patrick, Gil Carvalho... These are people who know what they're talking about.
Agreed.
Word of advice: when you don't know the answer say so.
So many armchair experts in these comments.
56:50 hand sanitizer to prevent covid 👎
53:46
Truth is not 'rabbit hole'
Roughage-pilled? OMG stop 😭
Define early.
Lost me at oxalates, which he clearly has no idea what they are or what they do, particularly in regards to calcium absorption. Rest of it is the same thing everyone says. Boring
*Making money is an action. Keeping money is behavioral discipline , but “Growing money is intelligence” I heard this from someone ✅*
Haha where does he live that people don’t know what quinoa is?
KeenWA
Min 20:04 covid vax 😉
Unfortunately he made a point of how to pronounce quinoa and mispronounced it repeatedly.
The pronunciation in Spanish is not even close. In English, the stress is on the 'i' and not the 'a'. He kept stressing the 'a'.
And for completeness, in Spanish the stress is on the 'o'.