We need to talk about journalist's Zack Snyder hang-ups

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  • @oliversvoice4383
    @oliversvoice4383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I’m not a SnyderVerse fan, personally, and was not a fan of the Snyder Cut… *but* I appreciate that he was able to release his version of Justice League and, as you’ve said, the use of bots for a good cause is nothing to criticise.
    At the end of the day, the Snyder Cut is something rarely seen in the film industry and (whether you like it or not) it’s a moment his fans, and Snyder himself, will cherish forever.

    • @OLegoMasta1999
      @OLegoMasta1999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same. Im not a fan of his DC outings as they feel like bad fan fiction. But the fact his original vision got released is a marvel (no pun intended).
      That being said, i feel like people hold the Snyder cut in the same vein as the holy grail... When its the same movie at the end of the day with very small differences. Those differences are good, but ultimately add nothing more with the exception of Cyborg. You can argue the ending is different but it has the same end result so it doesn't actually change anything. His chosen aspect ratio is also extremely pretentious and the scenes he shot in his backyard are awful to look at

    • @Scroteydada
      @Scroteydada 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You mean the use of bots to inflate the ego of a mediocre director so he can embarrass himself again but in a different aspect ratio?

    • @codercrisYT
      @codercrisYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Scroteydada You really believe that seriously. How gullible can you get?

    • @codercrisYT
      @codercrisYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Scroteydada Hey man, tomorrow it's going to rain gold be on the lookout

    • @codercrisYT
      @codercrisYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Scroteydada ugh 😫 people like you are terrible. If you don't like it, don't watch it but don't start spreading false rumors!

  • @Jack-gj3gf
    @Jack-gj3gf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    your Grace Randolph is spot on!!! 😂😂

    • @JoeChillton
      @JoeChillton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      only thing missing is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @ajscarecraft5560
    @ajscarecraft5560 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    People: Snyder fans are the most toxic fandoms in the world
    Me in 2019: didn’t Star Wars fans send death threats to actors, directors, and their families, and find ways to get angry over any sort of Star Wars propery these days

  • @budboom7087
    @budboom7087 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Please could you talk about Comicbookcast2 😂😭 he’s the worst

    • @Mitchy.
      @Mitchy. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I think he's gotten way better as a content creator and person in the past 2 1/2 years. He calls out obvious bs and makes jokes about it constantly

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Mitchy. really that’s interesting

    • @craigwhitley1529
      @craigwhitley1529 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah he is pretty funny because on the one hand he'll say he likes the Snyder films but for films but I think he milked that hit piece for about 10 to 12 videos over the course of a week and anytime he can put out a negative video he does. it does get tiresome... Having said that he actually did a video the other day calling BS on people saying that Snyder and Ray Fisher and others teamed up and lied when attacking Joss Whedon He was very clear that he believed everything they said and the fact that so many other people had come out against him in his opinion made it clear that everything they said was true. Now we may not see him do another positive video like that for a while but he does throw one out on occasion despite loving to crack on the fans in particular

    • @pugman9672
      @pugman9672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I really disliked his content so I stoped watching but recently I saw a video of his I a don’t remember what exactly it was but I remember thinking you know I may not like him but at least he isn’t a geeks and gamers type TH-camr. At least that the impression I got

    • @aliensexlovesoundsahhh176
      @aliensexlovesoundsahhh176 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That dude Super hates Snyder and anything Snyder related...😂😂 He even tries to be subtle about it to try and hide his feelings but it’s super sticks out he is an IDIOT...😂

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I am tired of the lies with grace randolf and the media as a whole.

  • @blankisfornerds
    @blankisfornerds 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    im mostly just happy ben is feeling comfortable enough to return to the role again after the justice league and drinking incidents, and if the post credits scene of the flash is true, it means he actively DOES want to play to play the character again. which is great for 2 reasons. one i believe he showed a ton of potential and is currently my second favourite batman, and it also sticks it to the people who were saying he’d never return.

  • @Vesohag
    @Vesohag 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    6:41 just a correction there. According to an interview with Deborah Snyder, she explained that they were already working on stuff before the pandemic started. And because of it the studio was about to end the whole project again, but she told them how there was no need on stopping, specially because most of it could be done from home and people would keep their jobs. And then yes, as you said, they still needed content to be produced and be released the next months/year.

  • @lhwinter
    @lhwinter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I used to find Grace entertaining but I now find she has too much of a moral superiority complex and spouts out too many buzz words to appease the Twitter crowd.

  • @Demovora
    @Demovora 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video. Laughed alot and love the way you did impressions 🤣 as for the comments at the end about those guys theres a reason why he started off his stream with them by making it clear he doesnt share there ideals. -Cole from Nerd Queens

  • @joeyjojojrshabadoo7462
    @joeyjojojrshabadoo7462 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Zack Snyder did nothing wrong.

    • @Toga_himiko66
      @Toga_himiko66 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      and that is a fact

    • @Toga_himiko66
      @Toga_himiko66 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Zarius what?

    • @Batman-kx6oy
      @Batman-kx6oy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Zarius what exactly?!

    • @rumson1958
      @rumson1958 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Zarius aye cus raising money for suicide awareness is soooo toxic, such bastards am i right. /s

    • @thomasjohnson1885
      @thomasjohnson1885 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He didn’t do anything to stop his vocal fans who were using death threats to get the Snyder cut, he constantly teases them and there’s no doubt he knows what it does and a lot of his films using Rand philosophy. So he ain’t a Saint

  • @mrscruffles801
    @mrscruffles801 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I never understood the vitriol to Snyder. Yeah his films aren't perfect but he's nowhere near as bad as a lot of other directors out there.

  • @Jcflyerofficial
    @Jcflyerofficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re definitely right 💯

  • @Beaze17
    @Beaze17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Soo.. that grace Randolph impersonation was prettty good lol you got her inflection and tendancy to put emphasize down lol

  • @aesthetrick2424
    @aesthetrick2424 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hahahahahaha Pup your Grace Randolph impression was so good I'm loosing it 🤣😅

  • @davantebarbain3216
    @davantebarbain3216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Im not gonna lie the geeks and gamers thing was something that had to happen for legal reasons and was discussed behind the scenes with whats his nane that hosted it but zack did say that at the wrong time secondly in terms of the joke made by ryan i really dont care its not affecting anyones life honestly especially mine but I'll say this definitely in poor taste

  • @bottombarrelbudgetfilms1854
    @bottombarrelbudgetfilms1854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude you fucking NAILED IT. I enjoyed the Snyder Cut a lot but I think it's time for a lot of his fans to just kind of pack it in and accept that that was a very rare chance that does not mean we're ever going to get more of his universe.

  • @thecinematicmind
    @thecinematicmind 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I never got the appeal of Grace Randolph.

  • @Brotherofthe4thCompany
    @Brotherofthe4thCompany 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You nailed that Grace Randolph impression.

  • @habessiaziz7097
    @habessiaziz7097 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    that voice was on point

  • @Batman-kx6oy
    @Batman-kx6oy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Whenever I say that I'm snyder fan everyone is mocking me and then they ask why snyderfans are toxic,maybe because of all of those harassment and and cyber bulling?

    • @mrscruffles801
      @mrscruffles801 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What?

    • @Batman-kx6oy
      @Batman-kx6oy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mrscruffles801 seriously they had fun on me and also they were sending me memes(having fun onSnyder's passed daughter)

  • @raimiallpowerful2020
    @raimiallpowerful2020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    great video pup, your grace randolph is so spot on and I hate how bad of a rep snyder fans get, when the attacks they get for literally liking some films is absolutely obsurd. especially when it raised 500k for suicide prevention, yeah all of them are so toxic. at the end when you called ryan kinel trash it made me feel awkward as I watch him and usually find his edgy humour funny personally😂😂. it's a weird thing when youtubers you like call each other but no I loved how you tackled the issue. even avoiding personal bias, it's a hard thing to do but only the best do it like you. keep going pup

  • @HydraSpectre1138
    @HydraSpectre1138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    In the Philippines, Zack Snyder is hailed as the greatest filmmaker to have ever lived.

    • @AnDrei-nf5jb
      @AnDrei-nf5jb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tf you talking about? He isn't super famous here.

    • @HydraSpectre1138
      @HydraSpectre1138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AnDrei-nf5jb Whenever someone makes a parody of a high budget movie, for some reason, Zack Snyder’s loom is the stereotypical one with the brown-and-bloom in CinemaScope look.

    • @Batman-kx6oy
      @Batman-kx6oy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow also his 300 is considered as a masterpiece in georgia (country)

    • @elijahblechman8633
      @elijahblechman8633 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It honestly probably translates better in other languages. He's very visual.

  • @freakingreninja7790
    @freakingreninja7790 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    if it was all the bots, where's my money

  • @FrostTheHobidon
    @FrostTheHobidon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WB has stated that Kal-El is kill as a baby by General Zod on Krypton causing Supergirl to be the only Kryptoian in the new timeline after the Flash Movie.
    It’s stupid I know.

  • @brianbardel482
    @brianbardel482 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well it's because the Snyder fans are slightly worse than most other Fandom. That's objectively why everyone is hostile to them. They're extra toxic. They just are. Edit 9:36 yes Snyder fans are worse than both mcu and star wars fans. There's a weird anti star wars fan narrative that wants to pretend all fans are racist and sexist but other than that yes the Snyder fanboys are worse than mcu and star wars fans. They've repeatedly shown themselves to be extra toxic. Did you miss the last 7 years? They've shown it repeatedly time and time again over and over and over in comment sections and forums across the internet. They. Are. The. Most. Toxic. Fanbase. Usually when EVERYONE says something is true, ITS BECAUSE ITS TRUE. sorry pup I'm a fan but you're way outta touch here.

    • @madlord124
      @madlord124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Every time we saw this Fandom is the worst out of all of them, another fandom or two does the same thing over and over again. There can't be a fandom thats worst.than the rest because another fandom will do the same thing but worse, its an ongoing cycle.

  • @Rabbitearsblog
    @Rabbitearsblog 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video Pup! While I'm not a Snyderverse fan, it's still terrible that there are journalists out there who are attacking Snyder fans for no reason at all.

  • @ultimate-x-james2533
    @ultimate-x-james2533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When is the next Beyond the RaimiVerse

  • @The80sWolf_
    @The80sWolf_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just let Mr Snyder make his movies guys, the fans will get theirs and those hating can watch something else.

    • @kieroncampion120
      @kieroncampion120 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zack Snyder conned WB out of 70 million dollars. Him and Ray Fisher should be in jail.

  • @adzinco6916
    @adzinco6916 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not sure how she still has a following after getting so much wrong and even getting called out by the directors themselves

  • @josephdanieljirehdimacali4418
    @josephdanieljirehdimacali4418 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As usual you deliver both side of story. Presenting it in objective lens.

  • @BeachpennyProductions
    @BeachpennyProductions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic Grace impersonation

  • @thereviewbox1309
    @thereviewbox1309 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'll be honest the only Zack Snyder movie I like is watchmen I despised every other one but hey if you liked it good on you I'm not here to tell you what you should and should not like

    • @jaydenscott1451
      @jaydenscott1451 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well I am........You should like this video

    • @thereviewbox1309
      @thereviewbox1309 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaydenscott1451 I'm not saying I didn't like his video my point is not all of us that dislike the Snyder verse think that people that are fans of it a bunch of alt right maniacs

    • @jaydenscott1451
      @jaydenscott1451 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thereviewbox1309 Woah my guy(or gal) it was a joke it was just a little harmless plug in for his channel. I agree with your comment..... well the latter half of it anyway.

  • @schizz
    @schizz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "I've been trying to reach you."

  • @nope5657
    @nope5657 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Snyder bros can indeed be toxic. But the simple fact is pundits and biased fanboys have had it out for him FOR YEARS. And they say vile shit about him regularly.
    He makes divisive films, and critics hate him. So they go after him and his fans.
    I have zero doubt in my mind that if say, there was a Snyder Cut equivalent for an MCU film the entire discourse from pundits would be far more positive.

  • @shadow-gr4iw
    @shadow-gr4iw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I mean there are proof and evidence that some fans in the snack Snyder universe is toxic. when Godzilla vs Kong was being released in different countries to Zack Snyder fans came to review bomb the movie so they can get their Snyder first back in action, and I have ran into some toxic fans that blow up when I have a different opinion about the movie. So there's been reports of exact status stealing the films that he created from Wonder Brothers and fans have basically rooted for him to steal the films claiming that this is the rise of the snack spiderverse that the standard versus continuing. And some even claiming that Matt reads the Batman stole the idea from Ben Affleck. It pretty crazy dude and you haven't even got to the to the best part where James gum has received death threats from messing with Zacks letters Justice League and his Peacemaker series. So theirs a lot of evidence to prove that some of the people in this fandom is toxic and are willing to stoop to low means to get what they want. Which I will have to say is Wonder Brothers fault for a evening encouraging the snack side of fan base with the hints and teases of Aquaman Flash and Henry Cavill as Superman it's like you you are trying to move up forward from that but then you're slowly hinting at" maybe this could be coming back, maybe this maybe that, if you support these movies we may give it back to you" so yeah

    • @ChannelPup
      @ChannelPup  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh for sure there is a toxic side but I'd say that's absolutely true of every fandom. From my experience all fandoms have their terrible sacks of ass.

    • @shadow-gr4iw
      @shadow-gr4iw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChannelPup true but it's sad that fans can get along. But I can't just blame zack it's also Wonder Brothers for beating fans when they know that if they're not going to continue the Snyder version stop using footage to bate the fandom into coming to see ur movies. I would just like for the new head of DC to say "shazam, Aquaman 2, will be the last movie's in the Snyder verse we are canceling all plans to continue that universe. But this will not be the end of the iconic we all know and love we have a plan to make a new dc universe starting with superman:man of tomorrow, wounder women, Aquaman, the flash and green Lantern we are on the look out for new actors to play these iconic characters and tell these iconic stories" it would be enough for the fan base to move on and at least be interested as to what's coming next in the future

    • @shadow-gr4iw
      @shadow-gr4iw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChannelPup and when they are ready to do crisis on infinite Earth the can even bring Zack snyder Henry Cavill Superman Returns with the new Superman as both fight side by side

  • @droga5262
    @droga5262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well well well

  • @americanpaisareturns9051
    @americanpaisareturns9051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Grace is a journalist?
    And here I thought she was a pandering sheep.

  • @arman_1024
    @arman_1024 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s toxic because they made several, several death threats towards WB execs. They also review bombed other movies, and they would make personal attacks.

    • @imallstar1
      @imallstar1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sucks but that’s still consistent with other fandoms like Star Wars and even gaming. At least the Snyder fans raised over half a million to suicide prevention.

    • @arman_1024
      @arman_1024 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@imallstar1 all fandoms get involved with charity movements and organizations, but not all of them develop para-social relationships with some Hollywood director that they’ll in-turn make death threats for. The Snyder fandom is especially demented.

  • @timsoel566
    @timsoel566 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No that it is all over and I wanted to revisit this video. Do you think his view has changed no that Grace Randolph is proven right.

  • @Alfonso88279
    @Alfonso88279 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This video is ok but it says some very idiotic things. Like, putting on opposite sides studios and directors when their collaboration is the source of everything in mainline cinema. "If you are rooting for the studio you are an idiot". I am rooting for them getting to an agreement.
    It's just another Snyder fanboy with irrational thoughts making a big effort to conceal it, in relatively clever ways.
    Everything DC is doing for the last years have been trying to clean Snyder's mess. I love the way Snyder directs but direction is not everything, he may be a great director but his saying in any other aspect of these movies has been a disaster.
    They did wrong by taking advantage of his grieve to demolish his movie, but I can see where it was coming from. It was a mistake but one I can understand. The press attacking Snyder fans is making another mistake, because as you say, it's not entirely your fault... but you are part of it. Part of how this conversation became so toxic and unappealing. Just stop talking about the past and let's look for the future. If Snyder came back I would be very happy, but the guy needs limits and supervision.

    • @alexandersmith7061
      @alexandersmith7061 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, snyder fans literally review bombed non-DC movies. It’s no wonder the movie industry is pissed at them.
      Also, saying “it’s a vocal minority” is honestly a lie. It’s way more than just a few bad apples, it’s a lot of them

    • @TheWarchiefZekeJaeger
      @TheWarchiefZekeJaeger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      To be fair, alot of DC mess came from WB themselfs, JL will forever be the image of this.

    • @EduFabolous
      @EduFabolous 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try to find excuses you hater’s.
      The sole reason we are at this point is because of sheep like you, for some reason people do not like those that take cinema serious, and WB has been burning since they forgot that.
      And you don’t have any thought of yourself, you are just spewing things wannabe critics spew out without watching any of the films (you might have seen the movie but you for sure never even tried to understand them)
      Time has proven quality wins, MoS is iconic and BvS UE will even be more. The thing is you will eventually grow up and by then you would not care anymore about cinema, because you never did

    • @Batman-kx6oy
      @Batman-kx6oy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexandersmith7061 nah ik snyderfan but I haven't bombed any movie I just want to see his plans in DCEU that's it

  • @johanstenfelt1206
    @johanstenfelt1206 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hm, how very interesting.

  • @ryanhau1073
    @ryanhau1073 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Know some people out there that is quick to bring up the claim Zack Snyder had a hand in casting of Amber Heard and Ezra Miller during this current Controversy and, bringing up some Red Flags with both actors even during the early production of Justice League. Tho to some it may be shocking, but with at least some of these Red Flags it's more like realizing there were red flags in hindsight.
    Anyhow, am I the only one who finds it strange that WB's DCEU is the subject of so many Freaky Controversies so close together, it almost make you think the entire DCEU project is a Cursed Franchise.

  • @bachilles3285
    @bachilles3285 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I can add something really quick?
    C-Come closer.
    Little more.
    Okay, perfect.
    (Ahem)
    Watchmen is underrated as fuck, yo.

  • @jamesc0890
    @jamesc0890 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zack doesn't know anything about them ppl, are what they said. Hell that's my first time seeing that. Why do ppl get mad like Zack knows these ppl, he did a press run to promote the movie. That's basically what the media does, than when ppl clap back, they & Zack get labeled toxic

  • @TheGameTunes
    @TheGameTunes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's this guy's accent?

  • @brianbardel482
    @brianbardel482 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yea I highly doubt Snyder himself paid for all those bots. The toxic fan base was enough for that.

  • @mrscruffles801
    @mrscruffles801 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Personally I'd sat Reeve's fans are far more rabid and tribal

  • @jacobfleming3926
    @jacobfleming3926 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You do know it’s probably not going to happen tho?

  • @brianbardel482
    @brianbardel482 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I won't be seeing a DC movie with supergirl in place of superman that's so dumb and lame

  • @ericericson5633
    @ericericson5633 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Zack Snyder admitted to everything.

  • @thoomolong
    @thoomolong 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Continuously bringing up the money that Snyderfans donated to Suicide Prevention as a reason to overlook their toxicity is virtue signaling.

    • @imallstar1
      @imallstar1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why is that though? Still did way more than other fandoms. Zacks daughter committed suicide. Makes sense support to that would come up.

    • @vikramprasanna8908
      @vikramprasanna8908 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@imallstar1 other fandoms just don't advertise it.