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You killed it again with this one! Freaking awesome pacing and simplified breakdown of the layers of information they go into it. Awesome midpoint summaries of what you covered so far, and excellent logical methodology to how you set up the outline of the video.
For the Apple Watch time being off on the second night, I remember there was a setting where the watch would detect you were awake if your phone is in use. I’m not sure if it’s there yet as this was maybe 2-4 years ago but it seems like a very helpful setting to have specially in the same ecosystem
in validation studies, usually agreement between 5 experts is around 80-85%, so you dont have to be to sceptical. 85% disagreement is something unusual
I got oura ring and returned it at the end of the allowed window. The light bleeding kept annoying me, it made my skin itch, and worst of all the readiness score was nonsense. I would get 98% on days I felt like a garbage truck ran me over while on days I got 60% I felt fantastic. Completely useless for making any changes in your lifestyle.
@@BigEyeFluffy I’ve found you need time with these types of devices for them to be anyone than a best guess. When I first started tracking with apple watch, it was all over the place. After three years, I trust it. I think my whoop is more accurate, so for calories, I follow what whoop says on exertion (their only focus is data capture and analytics). For everything else, the Apple watch spits out pretty much what my other wearables do.
I would like to know how you felt each morning and see how that compares to the “quality of sleep” measured by the devices. Other than that, cool video
1 thing that helped my girlfriend with her restless leg syndrome was to use a weighted blanket. Could be something to consider putting into your next video to test if its placebo!
Drink magnesium! It works great! Best product is Calm magnesium for the day, then Calm magnesium with melatonin for night. Drink the evening one 1-2 hours before bed, works great!
Nice work!!! Thank you for presenting us your research about this topic. Totally agree on your conclusion about “all this data is useless unless you make a lifestyle change” 👍🏼
what I would find intersting is if you did a test to find out how reactive all of these devices are to change i..e while I think it would be difficult for you to test for illness and injury it would entirely be possible to check for lifestyle/habit and how good they are at picking up those changes and reflecting them in their scores/data so that a user can make a make valid decisions about habits/lifestyle and if they are worth changing.
My experience with Garmin sleep tracking is terrible. It pretty much always takes my reading time before bed as sleep time, and it takes my wake up time (I stay in bed for some time after my kid wakes me) also as sleeping time. Also I have small kids and they tend to wake me a lot during the night. Regularly I wake up feeling like total crap after waking up multiple times and Garmin morning report will tell me my sleep was "continuous" and had "great recovery". So I share your conclusion that it's all useless and can pretty much be ignored completely.
Is it just me or do the number not add up at all? For example in the table at 10:28 for the PSG: there are 2hr 40min for REM, 4hr 21min for Light and 1hr 40min for Deep sleep - this adds up to 8hr 41 min, but the total in the table says 7hr 39min. The other values for the watches also do not add up at all
The more I research and track my sleep and then try to understand what it means the more anxious I get about how shitty my sleep is...sigh. I'm going to double down on the advise I hear repeatedly - low/early caffeine intake, no or limited alcohol, no screens in bed, exercise at least 30m everyday, don't eat late and meditate as often as possible without a goal other than being with whatever "IS." I use an apple watch along with my iPhone to video/audio record, which I then use to do a basic verification of Apple sleep data. My goal is 8 hours a night or at least 8 hours every 24 if I need to nap. Currently I'm averaging 4-5 hours every 24 and it's not allowing me to be anything near my best/pleasant to be around self. Not to mention brain fog, etc. I'm also noticing a correlation between lack of sleep and homicidal urges (kinda of joking). I feel their are too many forces in our current society that are anti-sleep and it is only getting worse. Thx endless scroll powered by algorithms. And fuck all the over greedy capitalists that are mining our attention so they can buy their next bigger yacht. Thanks for doing the research Shervin. Good luck to everyone else working on their sleep.
I've always been curious about how accurate these trackers are compared to the gold standard. By the way, I LOVE the t-shirt you're wearing in the video! Is there a wallpaper version of it available?
i’m still looking for anyone to explain what the data means….. what is considered better or worse data for overall health regarding sleep tracking and how to improve. as much as I love the pretty graphs, even if the Apple Watch is somewhat accurate. I have no idea what data parameters are considered good or bad or favorable or unfavorable information. For now, I will keep tracking my sleep, looking at the pretty graphs in the morning over coffee and going about my day with absolutely no information of the quality of my sleep.
its literally useless, because as you can see in the video, one night apple watch can be somewhat accurate for deep sleep but light sleep off and the other night otherwise, so you cannot even see any trend or patterns as its making different mistakes each night
Sometimes I wonder if it would be more psychologically healthy to not look at my sleep score in the morning. A sleep score can be too much of a self - fulfilling prophecy on one's day.
Just needed some Advice. I have Iphone 14 pro max ...and before buying that i had brought a Samsung galaxy watch 5 pro. now the thing is both are really incompatible with each other...i wanted to track my strength training..I traing 6 times w week...i am strugginlg to oflad the data to my phone from GW5 Pro. is it better to get the Utra watch 2 or wait for ultra watch 3?
10:10 very arbitrary lines you're drawing there, Apple and Whoop! off by 27 mins for N1 + N2 from PSG and are said to be the closest, but Garmin off by 30 mins from PSG and that's 'pretty far off' - perhaps you should consider doing some actual statistical analysis if you're actually trying to appear analytical about the data and not just making arbitrary claims and people don't think you're just shilling Apple & Whoop! ...
Hi! I'm an Epix Pro 2 user, and I noticed that your Garmin is not recording SpO2. To get this metric, you must set the pulse ox sensor to read all day/ during sleep. SpO2 metric was handy in detecting something wrong with me. Next, I did a PSG and found out I have light to moderate apnea. Also, I like to track HRV and HR; every time those metrics get off track, it signals that I'm getting sick. Great video! 👏👏👏
I can tell you exactly what all of my sleep stages would be doing that sleep study. AWAKE! No way I’m falling asleep with all that stuff attached to me!
Hi, I have a short question regarding sleep tracking. There have been many tests on TH-cam about how accurate it is. All well and good, but to be honest, no one has said so far why we even need sleep tracking and knowing which sleep cycles we go through. Why do I need it ? What can we actually do with it? What do I get out of it? How does it improve my life, and how do I interpret whether it's good or not?
Let’s say 10 person sleeps for 8 hours per night. Each and every person will have a sleep score which determines the quality of sleep. There are several occasions when you slept for 7-8 hours and still feel tired, that’s where it comes handy to actually check your sleep quality. Several scientific study suggests when you sleep for 7 hours how much of that time period will be allocated by REM, Core and Deep sleep. Every sleep stages has benefits to your body. Some stages regulates your hormonal function, others helps you to recover from day to day work. You can do some googling and you will find the information. If you find a pattern that you aren’t sleeping properly then it’s time you do some changes or talk to a professional with the data on your hand.
@@AIKTV well for those of us with trouble sleeping, or getting good quality sleep, it can help you analyse sleep together with other activities and diet and things and then correlate and make adjustments in lifestyle to see if those changes help your sleep.
Everytime I do platelets donation (it takes an hour for a separator to pump blood there and back) my Apple Watch detects it as sleep. Also few days ago I was standing (yes standing, straight on my feet) in a queue, watching something on a phone, making a step forward from time to time, and my AW detected even a part of that as sleep.
Super video, on an interesting topic. Always wondered how accurate those were. And generally thank for the topics you cover. It is super helpful. A suggestion for future videos.The background music/sound on this video is somehow super distracting and almost painful to listen to. It is perhaps the repetitiveness of the sound. Maybe use something, with a bit more variation, or perhaps longer before repeats.
Tank you. Sometimes, your videos are good, but please, why do you need to speak so quickly… As a non native English speaker, I’ missing so much things…
@@ShervinShares I didn't make the rules, but by today's standards, this is racist. "Racist" is a word that is loosely used these days, but again, I didn't make the rules. Just because you are using White as the race, doesn't mean it's not racist. If a white person said "this study has too many black people", that person would be vilified.
He's simply stating the race and ethnicities that the study participants self reported themselves as. The fact that these devices are going to be used by people of many different ethnicities warrants a more balanced cohort for the algorithms to be based on.
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I Tested this Apple Watch Body Fat Scale (vs DEXA Scan): th-cam.com/video/qJKpIQfUig0/w-d-xo.html
December 13, 2024? Pretty impressive that it predicted your sleep for the future.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Future world😅😅😅 singn Helloween
You killed it again with this one! Freaking awesome pacing and simplified breakdown of the layers of information they go into it. Awesome midpoint summaries of what you covered so far, and excellent logical methodology to how you set up the outline of the video.
For the Apple Watch time being off on the second night, I remember there was a setting where the watch would detect you were awake if your phone is in use. I’m not sure if it’s there yet as this was maybe 2-4 years ago but it seems like a very helpful setting to have specially in the same ecosystem
you would think any smart watch that is connected to your phone would be able to do this very easily
The fact that the data in the official test is just interpreted by “experts” which can’t agree with each other makes me very sceptical.
exactly what i’m thinking! there’s no point at all in taking sleep stages seriously if that’s the case
Exactly. Did he say that between those experts there can be 85% discrepancy? Thats huge.
in validation studies, usually agreement between 5 experts is around 80-85%, so you dont have to be to sceptical. 85% disagreement is something unusual
I got oura ring and returned it at the end of the allowed window. The light bleeding kept annoying me, it made my skin itch, and worst of all the readiness score was nonsense. I would get 98% on days I felt like a garbage truck ran me over while on days I got 60% I felt fantastic. Completely useless for making any changes in your lifestyle.
@@BigEyeFluffy I’ve found you need time with these types of devices for them to be anyone than a best guess. When I first started tracking with apple watch, it was all over the place. After three years, I trust it. I think my whoop is more accurate, so for calories, I follow what whoop says on exertion (their only focus is data capture and analytics). For everything else, the Apple watch spits out pretty much what my other wearables do.
Bro back with another banger
let's hope so!
I would like to know how you felt each morning and see how that compares to the “quality of sleep” measured by the devices. Other than that, cool video
Great video! Please do a quick habit dash tutorial and device comparison :)
Such an underrated yet powerful platform!
8:17 December 13, 2024? ARE YOU FROM THE FUTURE????
Oh snap 2023 🤣
@@ShervinSharesplease keep it in. It's great!
Bruh thought I was the only one found this
1:15 Interesting choice of interior. How would you describe that room?
- bed insight a kitchen
- kitchen inside a bedroom
shhh! It's a secret
I am most interested in how you’re operating well into the future on December 2024! Please share how you did that.
1 thing that helped my girlfriend with her restless leg syndrome was to use a weighted blanket. Could be something to consider putting into your next video to test if its placebo!
As a restless leg syndrome sufferer, would love a video around how you deal with that!
Drink magnesium! It works great! Best product is Calm magnesium for the day, then Calm magnesium with melatonin for night. Drink the evening one 1-2 hours before bed, works great!
Your blood sugar is too high, keep your total carbohydrate below 30g per day
It would be great to see this comparison with other wearables like Ultrahuman ring.
Can you make it with apps like Autosleep for iPhone and Apple Watch? Maybe it’s more accurate
With each video, with all the attached gizmos, Shervin is becoming more and more of a cyborg! 😂
Apple Watch is always so off for me 😭😭 always like 3% deep sleep in great sleep nights while whoop has me at around 20%
I love comparison content like this
Nice work!!! Thank you for presenting us your research about this topic. Totally agree on your conclusion about “all this data is useless unless you make a lifestyle change” 👍🏼
what I would find intersting is if you did a test to find out how reactive all of these devices are to change i..e while I think it would be difficult for you to test for illness and injury it would entirely be possible to check for lifestyle/habit and how good they are at picking up those changes and reflecting them in their scores/data so that a user can make a make valid decisions about habits/lifestyle and if they are worth changing.
Damn even the sponsorship was educational. LFG
It is interesting how different the 2 nights are in terms of sleep architecture even with the "gold standard" is.
Is it not uncomfortable to sleep with ? i use my series 8 for sleep tracking but the size of the ultra doesn’t look comfy
Your video is amazing!!!
What's the app/website called where u import both Oura & Whoop data? Please and thanks Shervin.
Who on earth can sleep from 10pm to 8.10am with a job and a life? 😢lol
I haven’t been wearing my Apple ultra to sleep for a week and everyday when I put it on it tells me “Great job you had 8 hours of sleep😂
I would like to see follow up videos if you do decide to get the cpap machine
Am I the only one that noticed how the spreadsheet is written in the future(8:21)? This made me question myself on what day and year it was today. LOL
My experience with Garmin sleep tracking is terrible. It pretty much always takes my reading time before bed as sleep time, and it takes my wake up time (I stay in bed for some time after my kid wakes me) also as sleeping time.
Also I have small kids and they tend to wake me a lot during the night. Regularly I wake up feeling like total crap after waking up multiple times and Garmin morning report will tell me my sleep was "continuous" and had "great recovery".
So I share your conclusion that it's all useless and can pretty much be ignored completely.
Is it just me or do the number not add up at all?
For example in the table at 10:28 for the PSG: there are 2hr 40min for REM, 4hr 21min for Light and 1hr 40min for Deep sleep - this adds up to 8hr 41 min, but the total in the table says 7hr 39min. The other values for the watches also do not add up at all
The more I research and track my sleep and then try to understand what it means the more anxious I get about how shitty my sleep is...sigh. I'm going to double down on the advise I hear repeatedly - low/early caffeine intake, no or limited alcohol, no screens in bed, exercise at least 30m everyday, don't eat late and meditate as often as possible without a goal other than being with whatever "IS." I use an apple watch along with my iPhone to video/audio record, which I then use to do a basic verification of Apple sleep data.
My goal is 8 hours a night or at least 8 hours every 24 if I need to nap. Currently I'm averaging 4-5 hours every 24 and it's not allowing me to be anything near my best/pleasant to be around self. Not to mention brain fog, etc. I'm also noticing a correlation between lack of sleep and homicidal urges (kinda of joking).
I feel their are too many forces in our current society that are anti-sleep and it is only getting worse. Thx endless scroll powered by algorithms. And fuck all the over greedy capitalists that are mining our attention so they can buy their next bigger yacht.
Thanks for doing the research Shervin. Good luck to everyone else working on their sleep.
8:12 wow the Apple Watch is amazing….it transported you to the future. For everyone in the comments wondering it is currently June of 2024
I was thinking the same. Dude is a time traveller. Very impressive!
Watch this video in 1.25x speed you’re welcome.
I've always been curious about how accurate these trackers are compared to the gold standard.
By the way, I LOVE the t-shirt you're wearing in the video! Is there a wallpaper version of it available?
couldn't watch pass seeing the orientation of the watch on his wrist
i’m still looking for anyone to explain what the data means….. what is considered better or worse data for overall health regarding sleep tracking and how to improve. as much as I love the pretty graphs, even if the Apple Watch is somewhat accurate. I have no idea what data parameters are considered good or bad or favorable or unfavorable information. For now, I will keep tracking my sleep, looking at the pretty graphs in the morning over coffee and going about my day with absolutely no information of the quality of my sleep.
its literally useless, because as you can see in the video, one night apple watch can be somewhat accurate for deep sleep but light sleep off and the other night otherwise, so you cannot even see any trend or patterns as its making different mistakes each night
Looking forward to the restless legs video =)
I love the thumbnail
you said your test time/date was 12/13/2024 hello today is 9-2-24 i think you meant 2023 ... at about 8:13 timeline
U kinda look like Jesse James west
Fr I thought the same thing 😂
Is the hair
Yo, you're wearing it upside down 😂
i thought the video was in 1.5x lol
Can someone tell me the name of that spreadsheet app thanks!
Google Sheets
Dec 2024, bro slept so hard he skipped the timeline and missed GTA 6 💀💀💀
Waiting for a Apple Pay purchase during REM 😂
Bro’s already living in future 😂😅
Sometimes I wonder if it would be more psychologically healthy to not look at my sleep score in the morning. A sleep score can be too much of a self - fulfilling prophecy on one's day.
Try to view it as a game and go for higher scores, but don't be hard on yourself when things outside your control happen.
This is a real thing! Orthoinsomnia is really common with people who track. Sometimes intuition is more powerful
I found that I was too focused on my sleep score and HRV number. Started checking only once a week and feel better psychologically.
Just needed some Advice.
I have Iphone 14 pro max ...and before buying that i had brought a Samsung galaxy watch 5 pro. now the thing is both are really incompatible with each other...i wanted to track my strength training..I traing 6 times w week...i am strugginlg to oflad the data to my phone from GW5 Pro. is it better to get the Utra watch 2 or wait for ultra watch 3?
this comes down to budget and patience.
Nice sleep acting
According to the quantified scientist, Apple is always the most accurate, and even more so the Garmin Epix Pro. I knew something was off.
Anyone else wake up EXACTLY 2 hours in to use the bathroom each night 😬
10:10 very arbitrary lines you're drawing there, Apple and Whoop! off by 27 mins for N1 + N2 from PSG and are said to be the closest, but Garmin off by 30 mins from PSG and that's 'pretty far off' - perhaps you should consider doing some actual statistical analysis if you're actually trying to appear analytical about the data and not just making arbitrary claims and people don't think you're just shilling Apple & Whoop! ...
👍🏻
Dec 13, 2024….. can you tell me who won the election. And what stocks should I buy?😂
Once u stop doing apple products and do android shit you’d double your subs! U r welcome
Less hair please
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@@ShervinShares you’re the best!
Hi! I'm an Epix Pro 2 user, and I noticed that your Garmin is not recording SpO2. To get this metric, you must set the pulse ox sensor to read all day/ during sleep. SpO2 metric was handy in detecting something wrong with me. Next, I did a PSG and found out I have light to moderate apnea. Also, I like to track HRV and HR; every time those metrics get off track, it signals that I'm getting sick.
Great video! 👏👏👏
I always love your videos helped me to buy the Apple Watch Ultra 2 🌟🏆💪✌️
In your opinion, is the Apple Watch or Whoop more accurate with your BMR? my Apple Watch is reading higher than the whoop by 300-400 caloric gap
Great test Shervin can you do it for Fitbit please
how do you even fall asleep with all these stuff on you :D
i can sleep through anything haha
That’s handy 😅. Great video 👌
Bro puts his body though a lot...
Shervin McFly
New Garmin Watch? Nice
Dec 13th 2024? You tested in the future? :D
I can tell you exactly what all of my sleep stages would be doing that sleep study. AWAKE! No way I’m falling asleep with all that stuff attached to me!
Hi, I have a short question regarding sleep tracking. There have been many tests on TH-cam about how accurate it is. All well and good, but to be honest, no one has said so far why we even need sleep tracking and knowing which sleep cycles we go through. Why do I need it ? What can we actually do with it? What do I get out of it? How does it improve my life, and how do I interpret whether it's good or not?
Let’s say 10 person sleeps for 8 hours per night. Each and every person will have a sleep score which determines the quality of sleep. There are several occasions when you slept for 7-8 hours and still feel tired, that’s where it comes handy to actually check your sleep quality.
Several scientific study suggests when you sleep for 7 hours how much of that time period will be allocated by REM, Core and Deep sleep. Every sleep stages has benefits to your body. Some stages regulates your hormonal function, others helps you to recover from day to day work. You can do some googling and you will find the information. If you find a pattern that you aren’t sleeping properly then it’s time you do some changes or talk to a professional with the data on your hand.
@@AIKTV well for those of us with trouble sleeping, or getting good quality sleep, it can help you analyse sleep together with other activities and diet and things and then correlate and make adjustments in lifestyle to see if those changes help your sleep.
Everytime I do platelets donation (it takes an hour for a separator to pump blood there and back) my Apple Watch detects it as sleep. Also few days ago I was standing (yes standing, straight on my feet) in a queue, watching something on a phone, making a step forward from time to time, and my AW detected even a part of that as sleep.
@@Ariegi854 how so? My AW only detects sleep when I’m in sleep mode.
Super video, on an interesting topic. Always wondered how accurate those were. And generally thank for the topics you cover. It is super helpful.
A suggestion for future videos.The background music/sound on this video is somehow super distracting and almost painful to listen to. It is perhaps the repetitiveness of the sound. Maybe use something, with a bit more variation, or perhaps longer before repeats.
Tank you. Sometimes, your videos are good, but please, why do you need to speak so quickly… As a non native English speaker, I’ missing so much things…
presenting the results with a bar graph would have been much better... you need to work on your data visualization
Since C0v1d ive only gotten 5 mins avg of deep sleep in the past 3 years🤯🥵🧐
Dude measured future sleep… December 13, 2024
Do you not find the AWU2 just too big to wear to bed?
Next series - "shervin takes on triathlon"?!
Where do I get the excel sheet?
Five Hundred and Fifty First!
6:28 not necessary and racist.
how is that racist? as someone who is not white - I would like research/studies to have more diversity
@@ShervinShares I didn't make the rules, but by today's standards, this is racist. "Racist" is a word that is loosely used these days, but again, I didn't make the rules. Just because you are using White as the race, doesn't mean it's not racist. If a white person said "this study has too many black people", that person would be vilified.
life must suck where you think everything is racist. get a grip on yourself
@@filleraccount275 Totally agree!
He's simply stating the race and ethnicities that the study participants self reported themselves as. The fact that these devices are going to be used by people of many different ethnicities warrants a more balanced cohort for the algorithms to be based on.