So glad I found this channel. Channels like this are why I am still on YT💯Like find a diamond while walking down a city sidewalk. Hope that everyone has a wonderfully blessed Friday/Weekend🙏
Same here bro.. this guys channel is helping me realize what type of ministry I would like to be involved in after years of feeling like I can't figure out what my role in the kingdom is... I hope I can find some great apologetics teachers near me by Whittier California
@@moizkayani8790 have.. We have the original transcript.. Do even have the Original Quran? You have 7 different Quran right? You cannot even know what is the original.. 😂😂😂
@@imjulie830 I was seeing bible of 12th century and it was really different. Where gone the book of Enoch? Removed in this century. And those 7 Qur'an are the different recitation of Quran that were present during time of Prophet PBUH. And we still have the 1400 years old scriptures of Quran. So go and take Arabic classes and learn about different recitations of one thing. Also Quran No one can make a book like it No scientific errors ( all debunked) Proved by benford law that it is uncorrupted Follows a mathematical pattern unlike any other Relegional scriptures. Next time I will learn about the 12th century edition and 14th century edition and 15th century edition of bible. None are same 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
@@moizkayani8790 Lol..BIBLE is the collection of books.. Inside the bible there is the TORAH and Gospel/injeel we know that TORAH exist already during the time of Jesus the the 1st book of the Gospel exist 70years after Jesus died.. Other books collected in different years but archaeology determine the ages of the book..in time of Muhammad Torah and Injeel exist already.. Your Quran confirm that "Allah said to Muhammad Oh Muhammad if your confuse ask the people of the book" the book of Enoch is Not in the bible because its Not Inspired by the Holy Spirit..It Maybe True but it doesn't mean its inspired by God so its NOT in the bible.. And your claims about Quran.. Your just making your self embarrassed Your sheikh, emam, and Dawah Guy confirms it.. ZAKIR NAIK said the there is 7 different Quran.. Ali Dawah said Scientific miracles in Quran is nonsense and all debunk🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦🤦🤷🤷 Its from your side.. Your not updated maybe that's why you said that..
@@moizkayani8790 dumbass.. If you want to learn don't learn from muslim sources.. ARABIC SOURCES? 🤣🤣🤣🤣IF you want to learn the truth be bias and start from the HISTORY..i read the history from Saudi sources about islam.. So filthy Muhammad and i read about the kabba its a place where the moon worship was done.. The kaaba is a pagan worship.. Idol worship... So good luck in your religion..
I grew up with the JW, they preached the world will end in 1975, I took this to heart as a child and teen. Now I meet them when they walk my community and even walk them to the cars, they can only take so much of my understanding of the Bible 😊
Crazy prophesies! God bless brothers and one thing I became a Christian trying to prove God was not real as an atheist because a Jehova witness 😅Glory to God
Avery would you consider doing s show on some end times stuff? Maybe your take on bible prophecy and what's going on in the world today? Love the channel brother!
I don't think JWs have as many Bible verses memorised as they portray because I found a JW Bible at a second-hand shop. Down the centre of each page is a list of Bible verses that they use to prompt them on which Bible verse to look up next, so don't be intimidated by their apparent ability to memorise lots of verses.
Thank you for this valuable information and going forward I will provide them with one from our house. They and the Mormons quit coming to our house because dad would quote scripture from memory as they paged through their Bibles to fact check him. Meanwhile this left the newbies looking at their team leaders in distaste as dad fact checked them from memory disproving their theological stance. I know enough of each verse to find it online, but dad and mom did it the old-fashioned way, they committed them to memory and refreshed them frequently.
@@nschlaak I used to talk to JWs and Mormons. I had a slip of paper in my Bible with Bible verses on it that i wanted to discuss with them. The JWs said, "Hey, what's that. Are you using that paper to prompt you on what to talk to us about?" They were annoyed, but now I know about the centre column of their Bible, I think they're hypocritical.
Fun fact: Rutherford wasn't the second president, after William Henry Conley and Charles Taze Russell he was the THIRD president of Watchtower Society!
January 1908 watchtower:"We are not prophesying; we are merely giving our surmises . . . We do not even aver that there is no mistake in our interpretation of prophecy and our calculations of chronology. We have merely laid these before you, leaving it for each to exercise his own faith or doubt in respect to them" So this is no post hoc justification for any alleged failed prophecy.
@@kurtwinslow2670 none of the society's funds built or maintained Beth sarim and it was later sold to the society for the princely sum of one dollar. The dedicated Christian men who spent their OWN money on that project though confident that they had come to the right conclusion in their study of the BIBLE'S prophecy Did not consider themselves prophets, the scriptures show that the apostles also reached wrong conclusions re:the return of Christ but we don't regard them as false prophets for that. See John ch.21:22,23
@@aservantofJEHOVAH7849 I see your point concerning the average JW, financing the project on their own accord. yet they did so because of Watch Tower teaching that was in error. This is one of many quotes of Watch Tower literature claiming to be prophets. Copy and paste......"This was the test - the coming down of fire; and the fulfillment exactly on time has proved that Pastor Russell was one of God's great reformers and prophets." Watchtower 1919 Oct 1 p.297. There's a massive difference between a Christian not interpreting something properly and a person\organization claiming to be prophets and speaking for God. Copy and paste....."Those who do not read can hear, for God has on earth today a prophetlike organization, just as he did in the days of the early Christian congregation." Watchtower 1964 Oct 1 p.601. Deuteronomy 18:22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him. In conclusion the example you gave, if you read the context of the chapter. Wasn't teaching the concept you indicated, which was. " These scriptures show that the apostles also reached wrong conclusions re:the return of Christ but we don't regard them as false prophets for that." The context of what was spoken. Was, Jesus basically confront Peter by asking him three times, "do you love me peter?" Peter responds, "you know I do Lord; you know all things." Jesus then goes on to tell Peter fallow me and you will suffer when you are old on my behalf. Peter then asks Jesus, "what about him" meaning John. Jesus responds, “If it is my will that he remain until I come, what is that to you? You follow me!” John 21:23 So the saying spread abroad among the brothers that this disciple was not to die; yet Jesus did not say to him that he was not to die, but, “If it is my will that he remain until I come, what is that to you?” The point of John not dying before Jesus's return wasn't something the Apostles taught. Rather it was something many believers assumed. You'd do well by yourself friend to TRUST in God only and not in an organization for your salvation. Isaiah 45:22 “Turn to me and be saved, all the ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no other. The no one else includes Michael the Arch Angel too. Only God saves and he does it alone. Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD, and besides Me there is no savior. What is the name of our savior? Jerimiah 23:4-6 His name is The LORD is our righteousness which means the tetragram was used to indicate who this shepherd would be. The verse can also be read as, "Jehovah is our righteousness." Jesus and Jehovah are one, when you have seen the son, you've seen the father. For Jesus unlike any angel is the express image of God.
What is the difference between Christianity and Islam? Christianity is living up to the examples that Christ set for His followers. Islam is living up to the examples that Mohammed set for his followers. Even though Christ and Mohammed lived over 600 years apart, Christ was not a Muslim who was trying to live up to the examples that Mohammed would set; and Mohammed was not - (and by no means) a Christian living up to the examples of Christ. The two are diametrically opposed to each other in their teachings, their relationship with God, and their lifestyles. * Interestingly, Muslims gain fame (celebrity, notoriety) by linking Christ with Mohammed. Christians, on the other hand, find it appalling - horrifying, distasteful, wicked, disgraceful, profane, scandalous, and inhuman. To Christ be the power and the glory forever and ever! Amen!
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 2 Peter 3:10 KJV
“Jehovah Witnesses don’t want you to know” ??? We don’t hide anything. Jehovah witnesses used to smoke, we use to celebrate birthday’s, and the date of the end was said to be back in the early 1900’s. Those were things we got wrong and we admit it and don’t repeat those actions. Go ask a Jehovah witness yourself and the won’t hide it at all. What’s crazy is that people like you think we’re perfect and we can’t make mistakes. Who on earth doesn’t make mistakes??? What religion doesn’t have people that make mistakes??? So sad to see people be petty as heck instead of just show love and witness to the world the good news as Jesus instructed. Peace and love to all. Nobody is perfect. What’s more important is to recognize errors and not repeat them brothers. With love.
Are you dense?...Why are you talking about mistakes?? Did you even watch the video??!, The mansion built by this organization which is clear as day is a bold false prophecy, along with many false prophecies made by this cult.
Early Christians in the Book of Acts: Expectation: The first century Christians anticipated that their faith and the establishment of God's kingdom on earth would bring swift and visible transformation, including relief from Roman persecution and societal upheaval. But they were wrong. (Acts 1:6) Reality: Instead, they encountered severe opposition. For example, the apostles were frequently imprisoned and beaten for their preaching (Acts 4:3; Acts 5:40). The initial excitement of the early congregation was tempered by ongoing challenges and persecution. This period also included the stoning of Stephen, the first Christian martyr (Acts 7:54-60), and the scattering of believers due to intense persecution (Acts 8:1). Outcome: Despite failed expectations and hardships, the early Christians continued to grow and spread its message. This same adversity led to greater resilience and the spread of Christianity beyond Jerusalem, fulfilling Jesus' command to be witnesses "to the ends of the earth" (Acts 1:8). In other words, expectations are simply that: “expectations”. Even the first century Christians had them. But did they give up or fizzle out? On the contrary! They grew and flourished-just like the current JW’s are.
Have you guys ever had a discussion on the Sabbath? I feel like you two should discuss the 4th Commandment. I feel like Christians blast other Christians if they want to uphold it, yet are hypocritical in giving Jews a pass for recognizing the Sabbath
The Sabbath law was only given the nation of Israel. With the end of Israel in God's purpose, the New Covenant people do not come under those laws. Colossians 2:16 Therefore, do not let anyone judge you about what you eat and drink or about the observance of a festival or of the new moon or of a SABBATH. 17 Those things are a shadow of the things to come, but the reality belongs to the Christ. Romans 10:4 For Christ is the END OF LAW, so that everyone exercising faith may have righteousness. (Compare Daniel 9:27).
Not only do they have no idea. They're either taught or outright told to never search or believe anything about the org, the org doesn't tell you about.
Isaiah ch.1:15 NIV"When you spread out your hands in prayer, I hide my eyes from you; even when you offer many prayers, I am not listening. Your hands are full of blood!" The bloodstained history of the churches of Christendom disqualifies them from representing the prince of peace and his God. Jesus predicted that his true church would be characterised by the peace that only His God and Father the Lord JEHOVAH Can give. John ch.13:34,35NIV"“A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”" Obviously this love precludes picking up a weapon and participating in the mass slaughter of fellow believers ( or anyone else) regardless of which Godless politician demands it
Luke ch 1:32NIV"He will be great and will be called the Son of the MOST HIGH. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David," So the God and Father of Jesus is the MOST HIGH. So how can any exegete "logically" claim that there are three other entities co-equal to Him
Well.. here is your answer John 1:1-3,18 NIV In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. [2] He was with God in the beginning. [3] Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. [18] No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known. God bless
@@samueluchenna3449 the prophet Moses is also called God there is no indefinite article in Hebrew or Greek see exodus Ch.7:1 . The preposition Dia rendered by or through depending on the translation proves that the Logos is not the source of the Creation but JEHOVAH'S Intsrument . Just as Moses was not the source of the law BUT JEHOVAH'S Instrument in transmitting the law see John ch.1:17. The greek prepositions en and Dia are NEVER used to describe JEHOVAH'S Role in bringing forth the creation because he is the ultimate source of all the information and energy in the creation not merely Channel through which these are Transmitted. Note also that the definite article is used to describe the God the logos is with thus the God and Father of the Logos is a God in his own right which falsifies the nicene creed.
@@samueluchenna3449while this may seem like the answer to what was said to you in the reply to the Post it is not sufficient. It may seem sufficient because it takes place in the heavenly abode it is not the only passage that takes place in the heavenly abode in the Bible , with the same two subjects being discussed God and Jesus his son. In John 1:1 that verse can be a bit ambiguous that is why there is so much discussion about it and people have come to different about what the verse means. There are other verses that take place in the heavenly above and they clearly define the relationship between Jesus and his father Jehovah as regards to station and rank. One such verse shows that Jesus is beneath God and separate from God takes place in the heavenly abode. Hebrews 9:24 you're such a scripture .
@@samueluchenna3449Hebrews 9: 24 and 25 make the comparison of the sacrifices of a earthly nature, next to his sacrifice that he presented in heaven before his father. It reads "it was necessary then for the copies of the Henley things to be purified with the sacrifices but the heavenly things themselves with bitter sacrifices than these, for Christ did not enter a man-made sanctuary that was only a copy of the true one he entered heaven itself now to appear for us and God's presence. First 25 of the same chapter reads nor did he enter heaven to offer himself again and again the way the high priest enters the most holy place with blood that is not his own. We can see that Jesus is one person and that God is another Spirit person and that Jesus into God's presence. It is plain that Jesus and God are not the same person from this passage. Other scriptures prior to the book of Hebrews make this point even in the book of John Jesus clearly explains that his father is greater than he is. John 17th chapter 20-25 make it clear and play that Jesus and his father are not one in the same person what are immunity in purpose and thought as to having gods will carry it out that was jesus's purpose for coming to the Earth.
@@samueluchenna3449the Bible verses that were provided we're from Hebrews and from The book of John were from a NIV translation as well a study Bible.
I'm pretty sure they wrong on many levels.... but it is a real and tangible way of thinking.... Jehovah witness are getting ready to receive the kingdom of heaven under Jesus Christ and the resurrection of many under the new order I think we would have all we need .... on earth.... meanwhile Christians who think they good enough to go to heaven and reality not accessible to anyone unless God's blessing is upon you....
That is the way to go. When unable to tackle JWs on the scriptures, then find some fault with something unconnected. Old tactics by opposers of the Truth. Matthew 11:19 The Son of man did come eating and drinking, but people say, ‘Look! A man who is a glutton and is given to drinking wine, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’
I mean you can clearly see its not hot out... it could be early in the morning on a bad day when the marine layer hasn't cleared up yet...its not just sunny in California all the time
Even a Christian cannot brush aside the worship of Jehovah as God. In Revelation 1:5 the Son of God called himself "Jesus Christ, 'The Faithful Witness.'" When on earth as a man he was a Jew, an Israelite, to whose nation the words of Isaiah 43:10 were written: "'You are my witnesses, ' is the utterance of Jehovah, 'even my servant whom I have chosen.'" Jesus demonstrated that he was a faithful and true witness of Jehovah God. His genuine disciples today must be the same kind of witnesses, Jehovah's.
This Son of God you are talking about also calls himself the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, and the Beginning and the End in Revelation. Unless you have a JW Bible then it's most likely changed.
I pray the Jehovah's witnesses and Muslims hear the truth you're teaching and accept Jesus Christ of Nazareth as their Lord and Savior. I love the way you enter act with the Muslims even though some are combative and disrespectful, it's not a fight it's about teaching the truth and winning souls for Jesus, it's hard for them to believe they're loved by Christians we have to show them the love of Jesus Christ. I pray Jesus show himself to all unbelievers and save them all. Amen 🙏🏾
JWs are ones who have left false religion and embraced TRUTH. They are the fulfillment of Micah 4:1-5. They have taken God's warning seriously. (Revelation 18:4) And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues. Does one want them to go back to their false beliefs?
JEHOVAH'S servants are cessationists the brothers have never claimed to be prophets never the apostles also had wrong expectations re:the return of Christ.John ch.21:22,23NIV"Jesus answered, “If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you? You must follow me.” 23Because of this, the rumor spread among the believers that this disciple would not die. But Jesus did not say that he would not die; he only said, “If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you?” So by your standard the apostles and first century believers must have been false prophets.
@@Macndahat1 it was an interpretation. JWs NEVER made prophecies they had mistaken interpretations just like the apostles which were never passed of as prophecies, From the January 1908 watchtower:With regard to 1914: : "We are not prophesying; we are merely giving our surmises . . . We do not even aver that there is no mistake in our interpretation of prophecy and our calculations of chronology. We have merely laid these before you, leaving it for each to exercise his own faith or doubt in respect to them" aservantofjehovah.blogspot.com/2024/03/on-false-prophets-and-false-accusers.html
@@Macndahat1 no it was an interpretation that proved erroneous and the brothers your conscienceless lies notwithstanding NEVER Claimed prophethood. From the January 1908 watchtower:With regard to 1914: : "We are not prophesying; we are merely giving our surmises . . . We do not even aver that there is no mistake in our interpretation of prophecy and our calculations of chronology. We have merely laid these before you, leaving it for each to exercise his own faith or doubt in respect to them"
You’re standing outside a house trying to provoke someone laughing, something Jesus would never do. Talk about false prophets and you’re a rabbi. 🤦🏻♂️
Can anyone in a logical manner tell me how Jesus can be god. While understanding the definition of God for example God is All knowing and Jesus not knowing the hour. How? Jesus in the Bible praying to God if you can tell me how can a god pray to another god. Because in my point of view roots are very important when you talk about a religion if the roots are confusing the branches or the teachings cannot be trusted. Christianity today is only representing that God loves us and Jesus died for our sins. Now logically when you think about it god meaning The Creator being all powerful and created all this universe and us and not being able to forgive us and in need of a blood sacrifice?? this is just nonsense. The only thing that I'm seeing today with Christianity is it has become a mythology the more I study or try to understand Christianity the more it feels like I'm studying Greek mythology or North mythology.
If I answer your question will you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior for the remission of your sins? And accept Him as who He said He is, GOD made flesh, the visible image of the invisible GOD?
@@amirg4581 If I answer your question will you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior for the remission of your sins? And accept Him as who He said He is, GOD made flesh, the visible image of the invisible GOD?
@@bhaveaniceday5392 good, just say u can't answer. And btw it's not ur job to worry about someone believes u or not, ur job is only deliver the massage.
@@amirg4581 I can answer, I’m just trying to see if you will listen. Why would I answer your question if it would mean nothing to you? And btw you aren’t GOD, so you don’t tell me how to serve Him. GOD tells me not to serve pearls to swine, so I’m going to listen to Him not you. And Allah commands you in Surah 10:94 to come to us Christians for understanding and listen to us. So I’m not commanded to listen to you, but you are commanded to listen to me. You want a sneak peak of how I would answer? You said logical. Then you mentioned “how can a god pray to another god.”, if it’s not logical for GOD to pray to Himself, then you have a logical problem yourself. Why? Because muslim allah prayed. Now some would say he prayed to Muhammad, which is even worse because he’s praying to a man. But other muslims argue and say he was praying for Muhammad and praying to himself. Either way, using your logic you must now leave Islam. Now that’s just a sneak preview. I’d love to go over everything you said in detail, but I need to know if you are willing to listen? I can give you a logical answer on how Jesus is GOD, on why you are confused about Jesus not knowing the hour, on why Jesus prayed to the Father (same One GOD), and on why the roots of your religion are corrupted and your original roots were supposed to be the Holy Bible which most of you reject. I can talk about why Jesus died for our sins, why forgiveness isn’t atonement, why repentance isn’t atonement, what the cost of a sin is, why does life have to pay for death, it all makes perfect sense. But are you willing to listen? If I give you logical answers to these questions will you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior for the remission of your sins?
GodLogic Apologetics. what about next time one you will be mr. Russel and other will be mr. Rutherford and talk about when will going to happen Armageddon
(And they ask you about Dhul-qarnain Say I will recite to you about him a remembrance)Indeed, We established [for] him in the earth and We gave him of every thing a means)So he followed a course)Until when he reached (the) setting place (of) the sun he found it setting in a spring (of) dark mud-murky water and he found Near it a people We said: "O Zul-qarnain either you punish them or you treat them with kindness."...
So glad I found this channel. Channels like this are why I am still on YT💯Like find a diamond while walking down a city sidewalk. Hope that everyone has a wonderfully blessed Friday/Weekend🙏
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Amen brother beautiful comment
Same here bro.. this guys channel is helping me realize what type of ministry I would like to be involved in after years of feeling like I can't figure out what my role in the kingdom is... I hope I can find some great apologetics teachers near me by Whittier California
The only time Mohammed is found in the Bible is the “ False prophets “ part 😂😂
Do you even have the original bible?
@@moizkayani8790 have.. We have the original transcript.. Do even have the Original Quran? You have 7 different Quran right? You cannot even know what is the original.. 😂😂😂
@@imjulie830 I was seeing bible of 12th century and it was really different. Where gone the book of Enoch? Removed in this century.
And those 7 Qur'an are the different recitation of Quran that were present during time of Prophet PBUH. And we still have the 1400 years old scriptures of Quran.
So go and take Arabic classes and learn about different recitations of one thing.
Also Quran
No one can make a book like it
No scientific errors ( all debunked)
Proved by benford law that it is uncorrupted
Follows a mathematical pattern unlike any other Relegional scriptures.
Next time I will learn about the 12th century edition and 14th century edition and 15th century edition of bible.
None are same 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
@@moizkayani8790 Lol..BIBLE is the collection of books.. Inside the bible there is the TORAH and Gospel/injeel we know that TORAH exist already during the time of Jesus the the 1st book of the Gospel exist 70years after Jesus died.. Other books collected in different years but archaeology determine the ages of the book..in time of Muhammad Torah and Injeel exist already.. Your Quran confirm that "Allah said to Muhammad Oh Muhammad if your confuse ask the people of the book" the book of Enoch is Not in the bible because its Not Inspired by the Holy Spirit..It Maybe True but it doesn't mean its inspired by God so its NOT in the bible..
And your claims about Quran.. Your just making your self embarrassed Your sheikh, emam, and Dawah Guy confirms it.. ZAKIR NAIK said the there is 7 different Quran..
Ali Dawah said Scientific miracles in Quran is nonsense and all debunk🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦🤦🤷🤷
Its from your side.. Your not updated maybe that's why you said that..
@@moizkayani8790 dumbass.. If you want to learn don't learn from muslim sources.. ARABIC SOURCES? 🤣🤣🤣🤣IF you want to learn the truth be bias and start from the HISTORY..i read the history from Saudi sources about islam.. So filthy Muhammad and i read about the kabba its a place where the moon worship was done.. The kaaba is a pagan worship.. Idol worship... So good luck in your religion..
Whats up godlogic love you man ❤
I grew up with the JW, they preached the world will end in 1975, I took this to heart as a child and teen. Now I meet them when they walk my community and even walk them to the cars, they can only take so much of my understanding of the Bible 😊
“Stay alive til 75” My in laws joined before 75 and are still JWs, glad you saw the light!
I was a witness for 30 years and once I found out about Beth Serim….down the rabbit hole I went. My whole belief changed.
Lets goooo!! God Bless you Avery and Radar!
Crazy prophesies! God bless brothers and one thing I became a Christian trying to prove God was not real as an atheist because a Jehova witness 😅Glory to God
Glory to God🙌🏾🙌🏾
Excited for this
You guys are awesome!!! God bless!
“But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.”
-Matthew 23:8 KJV ✝️
Avery would you consider doing s show on some end times stuff? Maybe your take on bible prophecy and what's going on in the world today? Love the channel brother!
Thanks guys I didn't know this
Thanks for what y'all do!
Ty for this
God bless you brothers
I’m surprised no one called the cops 😂😂
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The light gets brighter proverbs 4:18 is what the JW’s will say
🦌🚛 yes the light _is_ getting brighter 😂
@@godtalk9645 true statement
I don't think JWs have as many Bible verses memorised as they portray because I found a JW Bible at a second-hand shop. Down the centre of each page is a list of Bible verses that they use to prompt them on which Bible verse to look up next, so don't be intimidated by their apparent ability to memorise lots of verses.
Thank you for this valuable information and going forward I will provide them with one from our house. They and the Mormons quit coming to our house because dad would quote scripture from memory as they paged through their Bibles to fact check him. Meanwhile this left the newbies looking at their team leaders in distaste as dad fact checked them from memory disproving their theological stance. I know enough of each verse to find it online, but dad and mom did it the old-fashioned way, they committed them to memory and refreshed them frequently.
The JW are told which verses to study by the Watch Tower and are not "encouraged" to read other parts.
@@nschlaak I used to talk to JWs and Mormons. I had a slip of paper in my Bible with Bible verses on it that i wanted to discuss with them. The JWs said, "Hey, what's that. Are you using that paper to prompt you on what to talk to us about?" They were annoyed, but now I know about the centre column of their Bible, I think they're hypocritical.
Jw have nothing. They copied kjv version of Bible and twisted it.
Read their book and compare to The Bible. They edited it
That’s called a study Bible. These are literally available in many translations. Even online apps have this feature.
what a gig, living large while waiting for a return of Bible people, in a mansion
in a warm beautiful climate
Fun fact: Rutherford wasn't the second president, after William Henry Conley and Charles Taze Russell he was the THIRD president of Watchtower Society!
Great vid. Really interesting and informative.
January 1908 watchtower:"We are not prophesying; we are merely giving our surmises . . . We do not even aver that there is no mistake in our interpretation of prophecy and our calculations of chronology. We have merely laid these before you, leaving it for each to exercise his own faith or doubt in respect to them"
So this is no post hoc justification for any alleged failed prophecy.
Why did they build a mansion then?
@@kurtwinslow2670 none of the society's funds built or maintained Beth sarim and it was later sold to the society for the princely sum of one dollar. The dedicated Christian men who spent their OWN money on that project though confident that they had come to the right conclusion in their study of the BIBLE'S prophecy Did not consider themselves prophets, the scriptures show that the apostles also reached wrong conclusions re:the return of Christ but we don't regard them as false prophets for that.
See John ch.21:22,23
@@aservantofJEHOVAH7849 I see your point concerning the average JW, financing the project on their own accord. yet they did so because of Watch Tower teaching that was in error.
This is one of many quotes of Watch Tower literature claiming to be prophets.
Copy and paste......"This was the test - the coming down of fire; and the fulfillment exactly on time has proved that Pastor Russell was one of God's great reformers and prophets." Watchtower 1919 Oct 1 p.297.
There's a massive difference between a Christian not interpreting something properly and a person\organization claiming to be prophets and speaking for God.
Copy and paste....."Those who do not read can hear, for God has on earth today a prophetlike organization, just as he did in the days of the early Christian congregation." Watchtower 1964 Oct 1 p.601.
Deuteronomy 18:22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him.
In conclusion the example you gave, if you read the context of the chapter. Wasn't teaching the concept you indicated, which was. " These scriptures show that the apostles also reached wrong conclusions re:the return of Christ but we don't regard them as false prophets for that."
The context of what was spoken. Was, Jesus basically confront Peter by asking him three times, "do you love me peter?"
Peter responds, "you know I do Lord; you know all things."
Jesus then goes on to tell Peter fallow me and you will suffer when you are old on my behalf.
Peter then asks Jesus, "what about him" meaning John.
Jesus responds, “If it is my will that he remain until I come, what is that to you? You follow me!”
John 21:23 So the saying spread abroad among the brothers that this disciple was not to die; yet Jesus did not say to him that he was not to die, but, “If it is my will that he remain until I come, what is that to you?”
The point of John not dying before Jesus's return wasn't something the Apostles taught. Rather it was something many believers assumed.
You'd do well by yourself friend to TRUST in God only and not in an organization for your salvation.
Isaiah 45:22 “Turn to me and be saved,
all the ends of the earth!
For I am God, and there is no other.
The no one else includes Michael the Arch Angel too. Only God saves and he does it alone.
Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD, and besides Me there is no savior.
What is the name of our savior?
Jerimiah 23:4-6 His name is The LORD is our righteousness which means the tetragram was used to indicate who this shepherd would be. The verse can also be read as, "Jehovah is our righteousness."
Jesus and Jehovah are one, when you have seen the son, you've seen the father. For Jesus unlike any angel is the express image of God.
If anyone say something in the name of the lord and it did not come to pass know that they spoke presumptuously
What is the difference between Christianity and Islam? Christianity is living up to the examples that Christ set for His followers. Islam is living up to the examples that Mohammed set for his followers. Even though Christ and Mohammed lived over 600 years apart, Christ was not a Muslim who was trying to live up to the examples that Mohammed would set; and Mohammed was not - (and by no means) a Christian living up to the examples of Christ. The two are diametrically opposed to each other in their teachings, their relationship with God, and their lifestyles.
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Interestingly, Muslims gain fame (celebrity, notoriety) by linking Christ with Mohammed. Christians, on the other hand, find it appalling - horrifying, distasteful, wicked, disgraceful, profane, scandalous, and inhuman. To Christ be the power and the glory forever and ever! Amen!
Muhammad
Can’t wait to enjoy this one
Love you two! ❤
Sounds like they tried to use bible characters to get the house 🏠
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2 Peter 3:10 KJV
Would love to talk to you about the LDS church as I witness to them weekly and would love to give you information
Witness about what, may I respectfully ask?
@@jimjuri6490 I'm guessing you are LDS
@@shawnbailey2949 : Nope! Just asked a question. Any answer?
@@jimjuri6490 no
Rutherford also had BETH SHAN. It’s in San Diego too. He was a CON MAN
You guys crack me up. Rutherford died in the house BTW
“Jehovah Witnesses don’t want you to know” ??? We don’t hide anything. Jehovah witnesses used to smoke, we use to celebrate birthday’s, and the date of the end was said to be back in the early 1900’s. Those were things we got wrong and we admit it and don’t repeat those actions. Go ask a Jehovah witness yourself and the won’t hide it at all. What’s crazy is that people like you think we’re perfect and we can’t make mistakes. Who on earth doesn’t make mistakes??? What religion doesn’t have people that make mistakes??? So sad to see people be petty as heck instead of just show love and witness to the world the good news as Jesus instructed. Peace and love to all. Nobody is perfect. What’s more important is to recognize errors and not repeat them brothers. With love.
Did you not watch the video?
Are you dense?...Why are you talking about mistakes?? Did you even watch the video??!, The mansion built by this organization which is clear as day is a bold false prophecy, along with many false prophecies made by this cult.
@@RachelGarcia-gb8xj didn’t you read the previous comments, anyone can make mistakes. Let’s hope no one makes a video about you and your two friends
And what would make them think that the patriarchs would resurrect and travel all the way to San Diego 😂
keep it up lads!
Early Christians in the Book of Acts:
Expectation:
The first century Christians anticipated that their faith and the establishment of God's kingdom on earth would bring swift and visible transformation, including relief from Roman persecution and societal upheaval. But they were wrong. (Acts 1:6)
Reality:
Instead, they encountered severe opposition. For example, the apostles were frequently imprisoned and beaten for their preaching (Acts 4:3; Acts 5:40). The initial excitement of the early congregation was tempered by ongoing challenges and persecution. This period also included the stoning of Stephen, the first Christian martyr (Acts 7:54-60), and the scattering of believers due to intense persecution (Acts 8:1).
Outcome:
Despite failed expectations and hardships, the early Christians continued to grow and spread its message. This same adversity led to greater resilience and the spread of Christianity beyond Jerusalem, fulfilling Jesus' command to be witnesses "to the ends of the earth" (Acts 1:8).
In other words, expectations are simply that: “expectations”. Even the first century Christians had them. But did they give up or fizzle out? On the contrary! They grew and flourished-just like the current JW’s are.
They did apologize for prophecies not fulfill....Unfulfilled Watch Tower Society predictions
They took Muhammad's class of changing the goal posts !!ha ha ha ha ha !
Hey logic what part of Pennsylvania are you from? I live in Levitown grew up in North Philly
Have you guys ever had a discussion on the Sabbath? I feel like you two should discuss the 4th Commandment. I feel like Christians blast other Christians if they want to uphold it, yet are hypocritical in giving Jews a pass for recognizing the Sabbath
The Sabbath law was only given the nation of Israel. With the end of Israel in God's purpose, the New Covenant people do not come under those laws.
Colossians 2:16 Therefore, do not let anyone judge you about what you eat and drink or about the observance of a festival or of the new moon or of a SABBATH. 17 Those things are a shadow of the things to come, but the reality belongs to the Christ.
Romans 10:4 For Christ is the END OF LAW, so that everyone exercising faith may have righteousness. (Compare Daniel 9:27).
Yep historic Kensington landmark house of objective watchtower society false prophets
Y’all say all this, but still celebrate Christmas and Easter 😅😆 👍🏼
Sam could play Rutherford
The one the Quaran only Christian Sheik Rutherford Logic☆☆☆☆☆
I would of liked to met you over at Beth Sarim. I live a couple of block away. Most JW i talk to they have no idea of it.
Not only do they have no idea. They're either taught or outright told to never search or believe anything about the org, the org doesn't tell you about.
@@joshua-l6m F wise. admonition especially when you run into opposers like yourself
Isaiah ch.1:15 NIV"When you spread out your hands in prayer, I hide my eyes from you; even when you offer many prayers, I am not listening. Your hands are full of blood!" The bloodstained history of the churches of Christendom disqualifies them from representing the prince of peace and his God. Jesus predicted that his true church would be characterised by the peace that only His God and Father the Lord JEHOVAH Can give. John ch.13:34,35NIV"“A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”" Obviously this love precludes picking up a weapon and participating in the mass slaughter of fellow believers ( or anyone else) regardless of which Godless politician demands it
That’s just 1 house they have others.
Luke ch 1:32NIV"He will be great and will be called the Son of the MOST HIGH. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David,"
So the God and Father of Jesus is the MOST HIGH. So how can any exegete "logically" claim that there are three other entities co-equal to Him
Well.. here is your answer
John 1:1-3,18 NIV
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. [2] He was with God in the beginning. [3] Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. [18] No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.
God bless
@@samueluchenna3449 the prophet Moses is also called God there is no indefinite article in Hebrew or Greek see exodus Ch.7:1 . The preposition Dia rendered by or through depending on the translation proves that the Logos is not the source of the Creation but JEHOVAH'S Intsrument . Just as Moses was not the source of the law BUT JEHOVAH'S Instrument in transmitting the law see John ch.1:17. The greek prepositions en and Dia are NEVER used to describe JEHOVAH'S Role in bringing forth the creation because he is the ultimate source of all the information and energy in the creation not merely Channel through which these are Transmitted. Note also that the definite article is used to describe the God the logos is with thus the God and Father of the Logos is a God in his own right which falsifies the nicene creed.
@@samueluchenna3449while this may seem like the answer to what was said to you in the reply to the Post it is not sufficient. It may seem sufficient because it takes place in the heavenly abode it is not the only passage that takes place in the heavenly abode in the Bible , with the same two subjects being discussed God and Jesus his son.
In John 1:1 that verse can be a bit ambiguous that is why there is so much discussion about it and people have come to different about what the verse means. There are other verses that take place in the heavenly above and they clearly define the relationship between Jesus and his father Jehovah as regards to station and rank. One such verse shows that Jesus is beneath God and separate from God takes place in the heavenly abode. Hebrews 9:24 you're such a scripture
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@@samueluchenna3449Hebrews 9: 24 and 25 make the comparison of the sacrifices of a earthly nature, next to his sacrifice that he presented in heaven before his father. It reads "it was necessary then for the copies of the Henley things to be purified with the sacrifices but the heavenly things themselves with bitter sacrifices than these, for Christ did not enter a man-made sanctuary that was only a copy of the true one he entered heaven itself now to appear for us and God's presence. First 25 of the same chapter reads nor did he enter heaven to offer himself again and again the way the high priest enters the most holy place with blood that is not his own. We can see that Jesus is one person and that God is another Spirit person and that Jesus into God's presence. It is plain that Jesus and God are not the same person from this passage. Other scriptures prior to the book of Hebrews make this point even in the book of John Jesus clearly explains that his father is greater than he is. John 17th chapter 20-25 make it clear and play that Jesus and his father are not one in the same person what are immunity in purpose and thought as to having gods will carry it out that was jesus's purpose for coming to the Earth.
@@samueluchenna3449the Bible verses that were provided we're from Hebrews and from The book of John were from a NIV translation as well a study Bible.
Nah this house is too small. They’ll all fight especially if they have to figure out which room is for who
Dang thats by me
Nevermind i thought u was in PA
I'm pretty sure they wrong on many levels.... but it is a real and tangible way of thinking.... Jehovah witness are getting ready to receive the kingdom of heaven under Jesus Christ and the resurrection of many under the new order I think we would have all we need .... on earth.... meanwhile Christians who think they good enough to go to heaven and reality not accessible to anyone unless God's blessing is upon you....
That is the way to go. When unable to tackle JWs on the scriptures, then find some fault with something unconnected. Old tactics by opposers of the Truth.
Matthew 11:19 The Son of man did come eating and drinking, but people say, ‘Look! A man who is a glutton and is given to drinking wine, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’
unconnected? It sounds just like a JW to say that honorable Judge Rutherford is unconnected to JW theology and end times beliefs..
Charles Taze Hustle
What a slur how a un😊Christian of you sir!😂😂😂😂😂
Sam Diego late June and ur wearing a coat? Whaaaat?! Was it like 50 something lol
I mean you can clearly see its not hot out... it could be early in the morning on a bad day when the marine layer hasn't cleared up yet...its not just sunny in California all the time
Do they not already got their reward?
Fix your grammar.
What are the mics that they are using?
Rode wireless mics 2
@@RadarApologetics 💯
Ten BROOMS inside?🤨🤔
Even a Christian cannot brush aside the worship of Jehovah as God. In Revelation 1:5 the Son of God called himself "Jesus Christ, 'The Faithful Witness.'" When on earth as a man he was a Jew, an Israelite, to whose nation the words of Isaiah 43:10 were written: "'You are my witnesses, ' is the utterance of Jehovah, 'even my servant whom I have chosen.'" Jesus demonstrated that he was a faithful and true witness of Jehovah God. His genuine disciples today must be the same kind of witnesses, Jehovah's.
This Son of God you are talking about also calls himself the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, and the Beginning and the End in Revelation.
Unless you have a JW Bible then it's most likely changed.
@@SoutheastTxhe is also called Emmanuel, God with us. He is also called El Gibbor, aka mighty God.
Volcab is a Joke
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Bro… what is up with the way you labled your time stamps??
I pray the Jehovah's witnesses and Muslims hear the truth you're teaching and accept Jesus Christ of Nazareth as their Lord and Savior. I love the way you enter act with the Muslims even though some are combative and disrespectful, it's not a fight it's about teaching the truth and winning souls for Jesus, it's hard for them to believe they're loved by Christians we have to show them the love of Jesus Christ. I pray Jesus show himself to all unbelievers and save them all. Amen 🙏🏾
JWs are ones who have left false religion and embraced TRUTH. They are the fulfillment of Micah 4:1-5. They have taken God's warning seriously.
(Revelation 18:4) And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.
Does one want them to go back to their false beliefs?
Is funny that you mentioned Moses but according to them they are not under Moses law...😂😂😂
I dont respect false prophets
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Its close to my house. Beth sarim
Hi..Howre u?
@@francisatta6869 I'm blessed. And i have been forgive.
@@francisatta6869 how r you????
@@ceelocc1 doing great as well😊🙏. What's your IG handle?
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There's no respect in men....
JEHOVAH'S servants are cessationists the brothers have never claimed to be prophets never the apostles also had wrong expectations re:the return of Christ.John ch.21:22,23NIV"Jesus answered, “If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you? You must follow me.” 23Because of this, the rumor spread among the believers that this disciple would not die. But Jesus did not say that he would not die; he only said, “If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you?”
So by your standard the apostles and first century believers must have been false prophets.
It was a rumor not a prophecy and now show where Jesus gave a mention to all the false JW prophecies similar to “if I want him to remain alive”
@@Macndahat1 it was an interpretation. JWs NEVER made prophecies they had mistaken interpretations just like the apostles which were never passed of as prophecies,
From the January 1908 watchtower:With regard to 1914: : "We are not prophesying; we are merely giving our surmises . . . We do not even aver that there is no mistake in our interpretation of prophecy and our calculations of chronology. We have merely laid these before you, leaving it for each to exercise his own faith or doubt in respect to them"
aservantofjehovah.blogspot.com/2024/03/on-false-prophets-and-false-accusers.html
@@Macndahat1 no it was an interpretation that proved erroneous and the brothers your conscienceless lies notwithstanding NEVER Claimed prophethood.
From the January 1908 watchtower:With regard to 1914: : "We are not prophesying; we are merely giving our surmises . . . We do not even aver that there is no mistake in our interpretation of prophecy and our calculations of chronology. We have merely laid these before you, leaving it for each to exercise his own faith or doubt in respect to them"
aservantofjehovah.blogspot.com/2024/03/on-false-prophets-and-false-accusers.html
@@aservantofJEHOVAH7849 oh yeah they got their hooks in you big time …. Damn that sux for you
I hate to break it. To you haters but this is no secret
I’m a Jehovah’s Witness and I cant wait to see what you have to say
It's probably going to be about Beth-Sarim.
30 minutes in, any comment?
I'd like to hear your thoughts about the false prophecy of Judge Rutherford.
@@JasonLovesJesusstill waiting…? 😂😂😂
@@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid I have no idea what you're talking about???
Just like the TRINITY
Read Genesis 1! The spirit of God hovered over the waters.
Also, read about the Angel of the Lord, and how people saw him as God!
@@bepreparedforwhatscoming4975 You Gonna Believe in Jesus Christ and God , Or men ?
1 John 2:22..
John 20:17 ..
Matthew 16:13 ...
God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit is the Trinity Christians believe. Yes or No?
And this is supposed to disprove the Bible?
Just another fulfilling 2 Timothy 3:13.
Acts 1:6-8 show only the Father knows the times & seasons
This shows they lied from the start
When will this channel speak on the Bible and keep the same energy?
You’re standing outside a house trying to provoke someone laughing, something Jesus would never do. Talk about false prophets and you’re a rabbi. 🤦🏻♂️
You guys talk in circles ' doesn't make any sense '
Can anyone in a logical manner tell me how Jesus can be god. While understanding the definition of God for example God is All knowing and Jesus not knowing the hour. How? Jesus in the Bible praying to God if you can tell me how can a god pray to another god.
Because in my point of view roots are very important when you talk about a religion if the roots are confusing the branches or the teachings cannot be trusted.
Christianity today is only representing that God loves us and Jesus died for our sins. Now logically when you think about it god meaning The Creator being all powerful and created all this universe and us and not being able to forgive us and in need of a blood sacrifice?? this is just nonsense.
The only thing that I'm seeing today with Christianity is it has become a mythology the more I study or try to understand Christianity the more it feels like I'm studying Greek mythology or North mythology.
If I answer your question will you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior for the remission of your sins? And accept Him as who He said He is, GOD made flesh, the visible image of the invisible GOD?
@@bhaveaniceday5392 just answer each one of my questions. Meaning don't go on a preacher mode. And remember i said explain in a logical manner.
@@amirg4581 If I answer your question will you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior for the remission of your sins? And accept Him as who He said He is, GOD made flesh, the visible image of the invisible GOD?
@@bhaveaniceday5392 good, just say u can't answer. And btw it's not ur job to worry about someone believes u or not, ur job is only deliver the massage.
@@amirg4581 I can answer, I’m just trying to see if you will listen. Why would I answer your question if it would mean nothing to you?
And btw you aren’t GOD, so you don’t tell me how to serve Him. GOD tells me not to serve pearls to swine, so I’m going to listen to Him not you. And Allah commands you in Surah 10:94 to come to us Christians for understanding and listen to us. So I’m not commanded to listen to you, but you are commanded to listen to me.
You want a sneak peak of how I would answer? You said logical. Then you mentioned “how can a god pray to another god.”, if it’s not logical for GOD to pray to Himself, then you have a logical problem yourself. Why? Because muslim allah prayed. Now some would say he prayed to Muhammad, which is even worse because he’s praying to a man. But other muslims argue and say he was praying for Muhammad and praying to himself. Either way, using your logic you must now leave Islam. Now that’s just a sneak preview. I’d love to go over everything you said in detail, but I need to know if you are willing to listen? I can give you a logical answer on how Jesus is GOD, on why you are confused about Jesus not knowing the hour, on why Jesus prayed to the Father (same One GOD), and on why the roots of your religion are corrupted and your original roots were supposed to be the Holy Bible which most of you reject. I can talk about why Jesus died for our sins, why forgiveness isn’t atonement, why repentance isn’t atonement, what the cost of a sin is, why does life have to pay for death, it all makes perfect sense. But are you willing to listen? If I give you logical answers to these questions will you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior for the remission of your sins?
Similar with Islam there are no good reasons to become a JW.
GodLogic Apologetics. what about next time one you will be mr. Russel and other will be mr. Rutherford and talk about when will going to happen Armageddon
Bro i dare you can u debate with @shaykhutman one on one debate..then i will accept u..
(And they ask you about Dhul-qarnain Say I will recite to you about him a remembrance)Indeed, We established [for] him in the earth and We gave him of every thing a means)So he followed a course)Until when he reached (the) setting place (of) the sun he found it setting in a spring (of) dark mud-murky water and he found Near it a people We said: "O Zul-qarnain either you punish them or you treat them with kindness."...
Kinda weird huh... You accepting radar Apologetics and GODLogic...
Snake Ibn (ketchupboy) McFibbi'n have been proven to be a liar time after time, he's a nobody, a liar!