JRE: GREEK Cities in Afghanistan!
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 เม.ย. 2023
- FREE Alpha Brain Trial! - onnit.sjv.io/qnrxJY
FREE Shroom Tech® Sport Trial - onnit.sjv.io/GjrVxE
Onnit Affiliated ^
Jason tells Joe about Greek ruins he saw while deployed in Afghanistan.
Jason Everman is an American musician and soldier who played guitar with Nirvana and Mind Funk, and bass in Soundgarden and OLD. He later served tours in both Iraq and Afghanistan with the U.S. Army as an Army Ranger and Green Beret.
Clip Taken From JRE #1968 w/ Jason Everman
Host: Joe Rogan
Guest: Everman
Producer: Jamie Vernon
#jre #joerogan #comedy #funny
![[FULL EP.13] เซียนหรั่ง พา ไททศมิตร ลงเรือฝึกสกิลหว่านแห | เฮ็ดอย่างเซียนหรั่ง | One Playground](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/EWFuf2Av0K0/mqdefault.jpg)
I’m from an area in Afghanistan called Kapisa (old Greek - Kapiśayana). And when we were children the elders in our village would tell us how we are descendents of Alexander the Greats army who settled and married locals. Also as a child we would often go to the river to look for gold and bronze coins as a hobby, not knowing that those we ancient coins form the time of Alexander the Great. It wasn’t until maybe years later when there was a documentary about ancient artifacts laying around in the river of kapisa that it clicked.
If you look at the Afghan pakol hat, it is very similar to what the Macedonian and Greek hoplites soldiers would wear. And the traditional Afghan dance called Attan was a worship done for the Greek goddess Athena. Still practiced today in Afghanistan minus the worship part.
kuffar practice
no way, bro. you are descended from Atlanteans.
Greeks were Buddhists.
@@chuckleezodiac24 Atlanteans were wiped out
@@readmycomment3707 no way, bro. Randall Carlson says that survivors of Atlantis are still among us, living in underwater & lunar bases.
These Creek cities in Afghanistan pre-dated Alexander for many centuries, though. They were Greeks mainly deported from Western Anatolia by the Achaemenids. When Alenxander's army met them, they were very surprised to find Greeks in such distant lands.
You bring up a good point often forgotten. Thanks for the reminder.
The Indo-Greek kingdoms are my all-time favorite crossover in history.
Then Islam ruined it
@@numi8985 like Christianity in other places
@@numi8985lol
@@daaljones9584tru
@@daaljones9584 At least Christians did not raze pre-Christian monuments for mosque materials.
Deployed to Afghanistan. I felt like I was living in biblical times. The people are so diverse. From the Hazaras which are Mongols to the Pashtuns which are believed to actually be one of the Israeli lost tribe. Very fascinating place.
Ur Colombian u never deployed anywhere. Colombians are known to be cowards who avoid battle
Sad that it doesn’t have to be like it is
shut up american terrorist
I grew up in Canada and have never visited my homeland. I speak more pashto than I do farsi. From my understanding the Hazaras look more "Asian" (eyes similar to Chinese/Mongolian) then the rest of afghanistan. Funny story..I was playing poker (cash game-decent money) at college. There was this Asian guy talking trash so I made it my mission to dirty him with some weak hands. Then I heard him speak on the phone and I was like bro u speak pashto? He was like yeah I'm afghan ..I thought he was Chinese! I took it easy on him and he stacked me😂
@@bronzo3740😂
This is the type of stuff that JRE is all about.
i love when he talks about how Atlantis made all of these ruins in Afghanistan.
Yah reminds me of the old days of the podcast, now seems like Joe wants to talk about social issues more than anything now.
@Jacob William yep. Joe has really lost his way.
JRE is more about misinformation and alt-right ideology than history and academia, are you kidding me? Joe doesn’t even like to have academics outside of the science department let alone historians or philosophy PhDs (Jason studied philosophy).
All the science and history stuff is great.
Greco Bactria is a fascinating topic. What’s even more fascinating is that as time went on, the people descended from the Greeks merged their cultures with the local ones and became Buddhist and Hindu, while bringing some Greek traditions and aesthetic tastes with them. For example, Buddhist cultures didn’t depicted the human form or face profile until they came into contact with Greek artisans, who influenced Buddhists to make the first statues of the Buddha in human form.
Is that the place with the horses?
My favourite was seeing a statue where Achilles and Herakles are acting as the guardians of the Buddha. Pretty cool.
Lol Buddha was a king in India before he achieved enlightenment, where are you getting your education from?..the MacDonald washroom lol
neoplatonic sects...until it became masonic
@@velenvskaelhas are you talking about the place that fought the Chinese when the Chinese wanted to buy their horses to fight the Xiongnu? If so that’s Alexandria Eschate which I believe is further north and to the east (just googled it, modern day Tajikistan).
The "Kings and generals" yt channel has an excellent video on the Greco Bactrians ( Greeks in Afghanistan) and the Greco Indian Kingdoms. Even modern Greeks do not get tought of this fascinating part of the Hellenistic and Asian History. Btw some historians believe that many of the first Greek Settlers were exiled population from the coasts of Minor Asia and that they were exiled after rising up to the Persians or similar issues. So when Alexander the Great first went to Bactria there were already greek cities there.
There are a few Rajput (warrior) Clans(only few and not all) originates from Greek kings of India such as Nahapana etc eg Chavada Rajput.
First documented worshipper of God Vishnu (whose avatar is Krishna), is a Greek Ambassador to Mauryan court).320BCE
He built a decorative pillar for lord Vishnu.
Went in 04, saw forts and cities in Kandahar all the way up to Herat. Spent a good amount of time in Farah province as well and got to really explore the Citadel of Farah. That country is unbelievable, and as a history nerd I was in heaven and hell simultaneously.
It's so crazy that we spent over 2 decades there and trillions of dollars only for soldiers to die or commit suicide later on... and people think the Ukraine War is bad lmao
I am from Farah i wish i ever to go there once in my life
Interesting topic! I am from Afghanistan and as Jason mentioned, the people living in Nuristan are considered to be descendants of the Greek army who came to Afghanistan with Alexander the Great. There culture of this people was pretty much untouched and very unique to its surrounding until the nineteenth century, and not only that, even today the appearance of the people from Nuristan is very distinctive as they are tall, fully blonde, and with blue or green eyes. I feel terribly sad for Afghanistan as a country very rich in history but with very little study done around it.
P.s. The Bamiyan Buddha statues are thought to be carved in the 6th century and they are the largest standing Buddha figures in the world.
💯
so my friend u say people are tall, blonde , blue eyes . just like a real greek :D i am macedonian by the way .
Calliing bullshit. Btw there are barely blonde and blue-eyed people in greece.
It is a shame muslims destroyed heritage of older cultures all around the world :(
The Graeco-buddhist monuments in Afghanistan and Pakistan.. The Zoroastrian monuments in Persia.. the Hindu temples in Pakistan and India that they destroyed and then built Mosques on top etc.
Imagine if all these temples were still here, what heritage of humanity we could see :(
In Afghanistan (which was Buddhist when Alexander came) was heavily influenced by India (India was also a world-culture once upon a time) just like Cambodia, Thailand, China etc... all the way to Japan.. But the Islamic conquest destroyed it all.
In Afghanistan, they even mixed Hellenism (Or athenism) with Buddhist.. so imagine Buddhism mixed with Greek mythology. But now we have not much archeological things left because it was all destroyed
Islam destroyed a lot of traditional, native Afghan culture. Unfortunate for Afghanistan.
It's amazing how that area has over thousands of years been influenced by the Silk Road. From the Egyptians, Syrians, Greeks, Romans and on. Northern Afghanistan was a choke point through which Europe, Asia, and Africa comingled for the entirety of civilization.
Yeah, it's a hard concept for modern people to get their head around, but central Asia was the main trading route between the East/South Asian world and the Mediterranean/European world for a very long time. Today such trade is all done via large cargo ships, so Central Asia is seen as very insulated, but as you say it's history is vibrant. Even now, ethnicity in Central Asia is a difficult topic. Origins, languages, genetics, religions are all very complicated. The Soviet attempts to neatly divide up the peoples there didn't help.
And hash was traded for sure
This has nothing to do with the silk road.
@@ihatejpmorgan well a main path of the silk road went through afghanistan. In fact many call the start - when Chinas emperor when crazy wild for the horses they had - and created a solid path north of the Gobi desert (road and fortresses)
due is a1 cushido master , kanthahar is a city which prexisted way before alexander was embryo .. it was in mhabharth
The city was called Ἀλεξάνδρεια ἡ ἐπὶ τοῦ Ὄξου - Alexandria on the Oxus (river). The city was adorned with many stelae bearing commemorative inscriptions, in perfect Hellenistic Greek (the Greek language as it evolved after the conquests of Alexander the Great, aka Koine Greek, the fusion of all ancient Greek dialects in one Common (hence Koine) language). One of the most interesting οnes, is the inscription of a certain Clearchus who has dedicated the stela to the Temple of Kineas and is full of Delphic maxims, a couple I've found online:
-Ἀνδρῶν τοι σοφὰ ταῦτα παλαιοτέρων ἀνάκειται ῥήματα ἀριγνώτων Πυθοῖ ἐν ἡγαθέαι ἔνθεν ταῦτα Κλέαρχος ἐπιφραδέως ἀναγράψας εἴσατο τηλαυγῆ Κινέου ἐν Τεμένει - These wise sayings of men of old, the maxims of renowned men, are enshrined in the holy Pytho (at the Oracle of Delphi). There, Clearchus copied them conscientiously, and set them up here in the sanctuary of Kineas, blazing them from afar.
-Εὐλόγει πάντας, φιλόσοφος γίνου - Speak well of everyone, be a lover of wisdom (philosopher)
-Παίς ὤν κόσμιος γίνου, ἡβῶν ἐγκρατής, μέσος δίκαιος, πρεσβύτης εὔβουλος, τελευτῶν ἄλυπος - As a child, be well-behaved, as a young man self-controlled, in middle age be just, as an elder be of good counsel, and when you come to the end be without grief
Από που είσαι ρε παιδί μου! Your knowledge is impressive! 👏👏
As a Afghan I can assure you , there is soo much more to the eye that what you see on TV regards to Afghanistan- truly a gem country
Afghanistan or old Iran?
@@ShopSpector Afghanistan
Just because a great army soldiers fuck your women doesn't mean your special
Yes bro many afghan still attracted to boys also like the Greeks so def some descendants
@@yurik-rq2ct what the hell are you on about? Homosexuality is banned and frowned upon. You could get stoned for it.
There is so much history in Afghanistan it’s insane. Best and worst times of my life. I saw some crazy stuff out there in the mountains during my deployments
Tell me what you saw.
Yeah tell us what you saw
Hit up James Rink, Supersoldier Talk.
@@Peppersfirst a few weird things are as follows. The area we were at was an old R&R mountain top town that the Russians used when they invaded Afghanistan. During the night when I would have to get up and pee, we would here terrible screams and multiple people talking in one of the old mud huts. That particular building was a place the Mujahideen used to chop up and torture Russian soldiers. During our night over watch posts we would see lights come down from the sky touch down on the mud hut houses that afghans lived, stay on the ground then after a few minutes they would fly back up and just disappear. We would verify and ensure through Comms that no other units were in the are operating. Locals would tell us that they needed help with “ dark people” they would tell us the dark people would come and take others away and kill their animals.
Whoa!
Its not just Alexander.
Even before him the Persians would deport rebelling Greeks from the west to the east so they couldnt cominnucate.
When Alexander first arrived in Bactria it was already Greek, with cities being described as more greek that Greece
Do you have any source where I can learn more about that?
Yes you can also check Dionysus trips in India etc bro that he went there like 4000 bc. Alexander later found some sings that Greek were there before him . One example is the marks on some cows that it was Hercules bat logo , it’s amazing
Nah !! Who burned the Hindu books of Persians which limited paganism by worshipping of the good & light Wasn't it Alex?! Who burned the Israeli books ?! Wasn't it Hellenistics ?! & I didn't mention Christians now who claim tolerance through ganging up on natives!! All in soft words of touring!! Painting history as Vikings!!
@@aaronmarco5333 is wikipedia good enough?
As a Greek myself, I'm surprised that many now learn there were Greek cities in Central Asia. Alexander conquered the entire Persian Army and he founded 16 cities after his name and hundreds of smaller settlements in his campaign. It shouldn't come as a surprise.
Yeah I mean, i'm from Pakistan and a lot of people know this stuff here.
I first learned abt the Greco Bactrians, the Greek influence on Buddhism, Menander, and the many excavated cities in Afghanistan at 21 from Wikipedia. I was shocked and I remember thinking "Why didn't they teach that?". And I was a really good student (student of 19 as we say in Greece:P ) and always a lover of history. So it is not me somehow missing on the curriculum. These subjects are not taught in school. Not above the superficial level of a map of Alexanders empire. Maybe now they are. But at 2004 they were not. And its sad. Imagine if the Slovenians or the Czech had a history that catapulted them to a 300 year illustrious presence at Afghanistan. Wouldn't that be one of their most valued prides? In Greece unfortunately we don't realize the extremely rare (if not unique) weight of our heritage. Let me give you another example: A few years ago I saw a demonstration of Orthodox Christian Lebanese people. In Lebanon. Arab speaking of course. But Christians, some of the few that didn't become Muslims over the centuries. They were demonstrating against some church being demolished and on the placards there were twin-headed eagles and written in Greek: "We are Romioi, do not vandalize our sacred places". Do they teach us of the lasting heritage of the Greek Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantine empire)? Of one of our last cultural playing cards in the international arena?
I've been in Greece recently... fkn love it!... you trully have a beautiful country...👍🏻
that period, Greek Dynasties ruled several Asian Kingdoms and Egypt. {Greek/Hellenistic period of Asia and North Africa}
After the death of Alexander the Great of Macedon, his vast Empire divided among his Generals who started Greek Dynasties and created several "Hellenistic kingdoms" like Ptolemaic Egypt, Pergamon, Bactria in Afghanistan, Indo-Greek kingdom in Punjab, Seleucid Empire in Iran-Iraq-Syria etc.
They created new city-states as their capitals, the most popular Alexandria in Egypt, the furthest was "Alexandria Eschate" in Tajikistan. (ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΕΙΑ ΕΣΧΑΤΗ) the furthest. Greek, Indian, Asian, Persian, Egyptian cultures blend together. The first Buddha statues, heavily influenced by Greek sculpture and many more.
Gonna be hearing about this from Joe every pod cast now 😅
Like the cobalt 🤣🤣🤣...
😂😂
Hope to hear more of this, so much hidden history in Afghanistan!
If it stops him talking about gigantopithecus I’m all in favour
I deployed to Afghanistan in 2012, I was in RC South, so not as mountainous, mostly desert, but even there I was suprised at what a beautiful place it was. It was like stepping back into biblical times, very cool.
Its prebiblical u muppet
Unless you have been there and experienced it, I don't know that anyone can appreciate the point in its totality. I agree with you completely. Thanks for your service.
why did you join the military? Cheney did 9/11...
I feel the same about the area in the Mesopotamian plain out side of Baghdad and most of the major cities. It's like being back in time.
we got a white taliban here.....ban this terrorist
The spread of religion is an amazing glimpse into history. Indonesia is a Muslim majority country but parts are still Hindu, Buddhist and Christian. Prambanan is a 9th century Hindu temple in Yogyakarta. The large structures are still intact but several smaller structures litter the surrounding area where they were toppled by Islamists. Borobudur was built in the 8th and 9th centuries and is the worlds largest Buddhist temple. Seeing these places in person is both breath taking and humbling.
Peace in Afghanistan would be such a lucrative tourist opportunity. Historical sites, outdoor recreation, proper Greco wrestling championships. I’d go back for sure.
You could actually travel there for touristic purposes, just ask the taliban gov for permission and info
@@mr.h.3764 great idea
I’m a OEF vet and the ruins in Afghanistan are truly fascinating. In fact I was at a COP for most of my tour that was built on some very old ruins. Idk how old, but definitely hundreds, if not, thousands of years old.
I put my hamster in a sock and slammed it against the furniture
dawg i just pissed my pants after reading ur comment lmaoo 😂😂😂
all those ruins were from the Age of Atlantis around 36,000 years ago. the Macedonians didn't build shit.
They were likely ancient Assyrian or Achaemenid empire ruins
@@TippyHippy you did that because it refused to go in your 🕳️😮
Incredibly interesting and underrated archaeological topic
Did you know Alexsanders General Selucus was defeated by Chandragupta Murya he then marred seleculses Daughter and gave him 1000 elephants which he used to conquer Persia
You are incredibly interesting and underrated
@@VSM101 dude you Indian boys try really hard to glorify some nobody because the truth is you guys haven’t done squat in 10000 years
@@VSM1011.Chandragupta Maurya gave 500 elephants to Seleucus
2.Seleucus was overlord of all of Persia before confronting Chandragupta.
3.Seleucus uses those elephants in his fight against Antiogonus the one eye at the battle of ipsus in 301 bce
4. Roman writers Justin AND Appian didn't write clearly that seleucus gave his daughter to chnadragupta.
He used the term kudos and epigma.Epigma means general agreement of marriage between Greek settlers and Indians.
Alexander the great was GREEK
My father in law is an old Greek and he would talk about this. Mofo was right.
That motherfucker don’t miss…
Why wouldn’t he be 😅
But you Greeks have nothing to do with Macedonia
@@vmro9446 uuuuuuuuuuuuuu got ‘em
@@vmro9446 True . The Original Culture were greek grew out of in the Southern Peninsula was the "Doric Culture " (People of Athens (Ionic) and Sparta ) Macedonia had a completely different Culture and Religion until it became 'Hellenes' Which then was applied to all Greeks.
Good to see Jason. We were in C/CO 2nd Battalion / 75th Ranger Regiment at Ft Lewis back in the early 90's. I was in 2nd platoon, he was in the mortar/sniper section. After those long squad runs, we would drive in his little white Datsun (?) to get mochas at one of the coffee stands. He was a good Ranger; I fully enjoyed our talks and time together.
who asked lnfaooo
Okay?
@@ember-evergarden Be quiet ma'am.
@@ember-evergarden Ah I guess you've never shared anything on youtube in your life... Well, anything that's meaningful or something you've personally experienced
Imagine living such an empty and pathetic existence LOL you must be so numb to it at this point, which is why the anger is your first response :(
@@ember-evergarden what’s the n in lnfaoooo???
My mother ran a forward surgical unit in Afghanistan. Across the way from the base was an old Alexander the Great castle remnants. She got to go there a few times with a security escort and take pictures. Cool stuff
This is sooooo amazing.
Thank you for this inlightmemt. I will have to a bit deeper into it.
There's so much interesting stuff from the Greco-Baktrians. There are coins with the Buddha on one side and Apollo on the other. Greek style sculpture, depicting Buddhas, spread from there and you can see traces of that style all the way in modern Japan. The Han Chinese once invaded in a war called "War for the Divine horse", the Nisaean breed was needed to deal with the Hunnic (Xiongnu) threat, which then correlated/caused a migration event which dominoed to Atilla and the fall of the Western Roman Empire about 500 years later. It also started the spread of Buddhism into China and it opened the official Silk Road. Which is crazy to think about. Also the reason why Baktria was so successfully colonised while other places failed is because when Darius the Great punished the Ionian Greeks in Turkey, 200 years before Alexander, he sent the survivors to the furthest borders on the Persian Empire to solidify the frontier there. So it was already colonised when Alexander got there. Also even Alexander couldn't conquer them, he had to marry a princess and make her his queen to gain the Baktrians' loyalty.
The greeks are called yavans, they had influence till central india. There are inscriptions on old indian monuments that this was gifted by yavanas or greek kings. Afghans or some of them have blue eyes blonde hairs which you don't find in region above, east or west of it.
Buddhism in its current form is basically created thanks to Greeks in central asia and found upon teachings of Plato, the Greek philosopher.
@@kocahmet1 lol Buddhism has been wiped out from Central Asia except Mongolia where it was preserved by great khans themselves, and they don't have any profound additions to it. Arabs gave a tough less, world doesn't run on non violence
@@kocahmet1 and the poppy field in afghanistan was invention of Pakistani Intelligence Agency who still buy f16 and hide osama while being ally with american military for 50 years.
@@kocahmet1 we will drive the muslims and islam out don't worry and upload rule of law and people
Joe is doing his best Owen Wilson impression in this video.
The settlement I believe he is referring to is known as Ai Khanoum. It did indeed have all the hallmarks of a Classical Greek city in northeastern Afghanistan. Since its re-discovery by the King of Afghanistan while on a hunting trip in 1961, it has been speculated that the site was Alexandria-on-the-Oxus, but it is now considered more likely that it was established by Seleucus, one of the Successors who duked it out for control in the aftermath of Alexander's death, or alternatively his son, Antiochus I.
Unfortunately, the instability of the region means no archaeological projects have been carried out since the 1970s and I believe that much of the remains have now been destroyed in fighting during various recent wars.
Would be difficult to destroy the ancient city since most of what remains of it is in ruins or underground. Wouldn’t be surprised, however, if looting is on-going there on an industrial scale.
I was there for a year. We drove into villages that were a small collection of mud huts that hadn’t ever been visited by American soldiers and this was 2006. Afghanistan is a wild place. Super quiet and weird at night with a strange energy.
When I was in Afghanistan , we were briefly in Zabul province and there was a fortress still standing that belonged to Alexander the Great. We could only see it in passing but another group found Russian munitions that were buried inside.
I’ve always wanted to abandon my truck to go see that fortress. I think it near JBad
I was at FOB Apache it was right outside of the fortress I think you might be talking about!
@@zac6654 Thats the one!
@@MrAsdfgh24that’s awesome! Glad you made it home brother!
I just typed this before seeing your comment. When I was there in 2009/2010 it was an ANA base.
If Alexander hadn't died young and left proper heirs, the world would be so different from today.
Think about what it would be like if Charlemagne married Irene?
no way, bro. his heirs would've divided the empire just like his successors during the Wars of the Diadochi (323-281 BC). shit would've been the same.
@@chuckleezodiac24 completely agree
but he was still very impactful man of history...
How did he die?
"Jamie can you pull that up"
Idk why but that always makes me laugh
Props to Jason for saying “I don’t know” when he doesn’t.
I am from WA state and I was deployed to AFG in 2010. I completely agree that there are parts of Afghanistan that resemble the cascade mountains. The land is gorgeous.
So how many innocent Afghans did you kil and rejp?
My brother says the same. Latitude it makes sense as it's not that far off.
Why did you deploy to Afghanistan? Would you deploy to Ukraine? Why or why not?
@@jacksevert3099 never to Ukraine.
@@leonardwitucke1 why did you deploy to Afghanistan? I don't get it. What was the point? Was Afghanistan invaded by a foreign country or something? What gives?
alexander the mastodon is my favorite historical figure.
I rode him into battle when I played Ark: Survival Evolved..
All I could think was "How stoned was this dude?"
visit PELLA HE WAS BORN THERE.......AND THEN GO TO THE SECRET PLACE......ARISTOTELION
I'm in the army, and when I was deployed to Afghanistan, my base was beside one of his forts and every mission. I went on, and we passed multiple forts of his there all over Afghanistan
II found that Greek coins are still fairly common around the Kyber. You find them in small village shops.
I always love seeing historical anecdotes I'm aware of but isn't known to alot of people, becoming widespread.
Sure its nice to spread knowledge and be "more knowledgeable" than others, but its even more fun to talk about it with people that already know about it and dig deeper.
I visited a castle in Afghanistan while deployed there that was Alexanders castle turned into a taliban base.
Great podcast 👍
As a Greek who studied Greek history, I don't find this surprising at all. It's common knowledge to us, but it's funny to see Joe being so surprised 😅. But I understand, most people are aware of Roman empire and not the Greek empire and how much it influenced and shaped that part of the world.
Ancient history nerds are usually aware of the Greek kingdoms of Asia, JR is just late to the party!
@@BrendanRiley very late to the party.
roman empire converted to islam in asia there just another pashtun tribe here now
attan is a greek dance
7:02 This is what blew me and my brothers minds on our trip to Afghanistan. We've both lived in Colorado most of our lives, and when we went to Afghanistan, it was insanely similar. Like mirror image in some ways. Culturally, it might as well have been Mars, but the altitude, the landscape, it's insane.
When did you go?
I have heard that many Afghan immigrants from the Panjshir & the mountainous areas of Afg live in Colorado. Makes sense lol
@@ZeeZee9same with California😂
@@Mujarahdeen Well depends. Many Afghans from the south of Afg live in Southern California. Many people from Kabul live in Fremont area. But Cali is a huge destination for immigrants. That's why I found the Panjshir/Colorado connection interesting.
@@ZeeZee9 as an afghan, Fremont CA is spot on to Kabul weather and landscape. There’s so many of us here we call it little Kabul lol😂😂
i love this podcast so many cool and interesting subjects…
Doesn't everyone remember when the Taliban took over, they were blowing up the biggest Buddha statues in the world carved into mountainsides in Afghanistan? Those type of Buddha statues were made in the style of Greek art, as the Bactrians were Buddhist.
So glad Jason Everman got to do this show. Super interesting dude
More wows than an Owen Wilson film
Owen Wilson resembles an ancient Greek with his flowing blonde hair and hook nose
😂
Alexandria Eschate was an ancient Greek settlement in Tajikistan. It's in ruins, but it's the furthest Alexandria heading east, from Greece. Historians and scientists found records showing, that the Greeks in that settlement encountered the Han Chinese.
Never put two and two together - Sikandar and Iskandar being the Persian and Arabic variants of "Alexander" - Apparently the local dialects pronounced this as "Scandar" eventually becoming "Candar" colloquially ... finally resulting in Kandahar.
I had no idea!!! This information is amazing. Love this show!!
The Rig Veda started in Uttar Pradesh/Haryana region clearly talks about Saraswathi River (3000BC) flowing through India who's paleo channel is recently been discovered, and the research says that it dried up around 1900BC which is hinted at in the Mahabharata. Saraswathi river was said to be bigger than Indus and the texts show a clear east to west explanation, those places still survive today in India.
Aryan history
@@SmedleyButler1881 Aryan means the noble people, when used in the rig veda refers to the Puru tribe who started the traditions of vedas not that the ideas and culture wasnt there before, the Purus starting with Bharadwaja rishi started the family books. The oldest parts of the Rig veda namely books 6,3 and 7 speak of set of generational battles against the Anu coalition (Anunakki? Maybe?)consisting of Parsua tribe Parthava tribes, Pakhta tribes and other indo-Iranian tribes which fled westwards to Iran after possibly one of the the battles- Dasarajna. The original Indo-European homeland was western the Saraswat-Sindhu region.
Actually the original Rigveda was written in Punjab
No it started in Afghanistan, Hinduism didn't start in india😢
@@aadeshkripki1962 baseless claims. xD
To honestly think people didn't know this is hysterical.
2:59 was the most refreshing comment that I have ever heard on a Joe Rogan show.
Alexander the Mactedon😂
This man is prepared for the podcast
Greeks were in Afghanistan, what a revelation!
yeah, but they got there 30,000 years after the Atlanteans created all those cities.
@@chuckleezodiac24 Go back to the asylum and stay there.
@@chuckleezodiac24 🤣
In Herat, Afghanistan where i worked and lived for years, there is a citadel that’s pretty awesome.
i love his "molon labe" (come and claim it ) famous greek phrase on his arm as a tattoo.
This was said by Leonidas of the 300 Spartans the Persians
Yep. I personally saw fallen Greek columns in Afghanistan. The interpreter told us it was an outpost from Alexander the Great.
Alexender's reign was very brief (13 years) and so his time in Afghanistan was even shorter. There were however subsequent Greco-Bactrian kingdoms founded by his successors there. It was either from those or other dynasties altogether.
Lived and patrolled out of an old Greek fort in Afghanistan in 2012. Family is half Greek so who knows, maybe I also had a family member bitching about the locals as well.
The Greeks loved afghans. That’s why they integrated
This is the best stuff of JRE
2:52 ... I love that he just said he didn't know when he didn't instead of spwculating like many would
He was franchising cities pretty much lol. What a G
They all did that. Every big ancient empire had rulers that expanded and conquered and in their expansion would build up cities. Some cities bigger than others.
There are castles dotted all over that country. One in southern Afghanistan was the end point to one of my missions.
Joe Rogan on the next he does a graham Hancock episode:
“It’s crazy nobody mentions that Alexander rode a mastodon all the way to Afghanistan “
Kandhaar name come from gandhari who was mother of kavravas in Mahabharata not iskander , iskander is name of Alexander in Indian sub continent those time Afghanistan was part of INDIA
Was in Afghanistan for a couple of years, I never had the means to go explore though. I always thought it would be interesting to visit Kandahar proper. Afghanistan is an interesting place, hopefully one day things will settle there. I doubt it though.
I had never heard of greek-budhism before, that is sooo interresting !
Have you heard of the Egyptian-Budhists found deep in the grand canyon? Crazy stuff in our history.
@@spazy3687 Thats all horseshit made up by a reporter in 1909 to get people to buy newspapers for a fledgling paper in Pheonix.
Greeks invented Buddhism...I'll be dipped
There are rumors that Alexander wanted to decree the kingdom as Buddhist before dying. Who knows.
@@spazy3687 The only proof is an article published by a newspaper that was actively attempting to bolster tourism to the area during the height of Egpytomania.
Alexander named over 50 cities after himself, and one named after his horse.
Also it is likely that the cities disappeared over time, as did the rest of Alexanders empire. Shortly after his death, his territories fractured under various underlings and local rulers.
The one named after his horse " Bucephalus" is rumored to be placed at the Jhelum River in Pakistan. Actually "Bucefalus" was in the east side of the river and "Nice" in the west side. Both of them were supervised by one of his Generals , Craterus.
fascinating!
Was there in 2012 and I saw things that were mysterious and wonderful
After Alexander died his empire was divided up by his Generals. Some lasted some didn’t. Cleopatra was a descendant of a Greek general.
Theres so much BC history in that region, i just wish more could be done to document it and show us all.
We had a cop in qalat with our msg ciseneros as the cop mayor there it was alexander the greats castle there it was so cool to see when we rolled up to refit get intell and eat at their dfac they had in there was truely an amazing deployment each of the 3 times i've been deployed to that biblical country, true we was at war there but i always felt at peace there i know that sounds crazy cause we was there at war but just to be there after what you read especially in the bible and just to be there i felt at peace, again i know it may sound crazy but to experience that part of history was just beautiful
Alexander was everywhere. Literally you can find his buildings all over Asia and Africa.
Alexander's only presence in Africa was Egypt. So no, you can't find his "buildings all over Africa." Right before him, Persia ruled Egypt which is how he gained successive control of it.
There’s some interesting ruins outside Gardez from those Greek times
Joe doing his best Owen Wilson impression... wow!!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂 now i hear it!
"Trekking industry." 😂
Joe should cover the Aztec ruins and ball courts in Colorado and Utah
I deployed there in 2011 and was surprised how diverse the people looked. Lots of tan skin and blue/green eyes.
They are Turks.
Look up indo Europeans, explains everything
@@Q_QQ_Q no I don’t think so. Turks are more related to Mongolians.
Hanza valley, Uzbek, etc
@@reportedstolen3603 It's Pashtuns
Stoked for more intellectual podcasts ! These will show
Our similarities versus our differences
Afghanistan before Darius was an Independent kingdom of Gandhar, considered as gateway to India.
Indians consider Afghanistan as part of a India because in ancient Indian literature, We had 16 kingdoms that ware call Bharat. One of these kingdom was Gandhar.
King of Gandhar plays important role in most ancient Indian literature.
But with time Indian frontier kept getting shifted to eastward. Today's Afghan might feel more closer to Iranian than Indian and Pakistani .
Greek here. Proud of our heritage. Bless all countries and people
The heritage is Macedonian. The culture is Greek.
@@IStevenSeagal the heritage is greek and also the culture
It was called the Macedonian empire. Alexander and his generals were Macedonians. Macedonia being Greek is the equivalent of Iran or Morocco being Arab. Yes Iran and Morocco got Arabized, but then they got un-Arabized. Macedonia, Anatolia and Cyprus werent Greek but then got Hellenized and then returned to something non-Greek(Cyprus almost). That's just how proudfull people are, if its not part of the roots it will eventually defy. But Alexander can be called a Greek Macedonian for sure, he's Greek but the heritage is Macedonian.
@@IStevenSeagal stop taking expired medication mate
@@IStevenSeagal alexander and his generals were greeks from the region of macedonia,its like saying leonidas or pericles was athenian and spartan with greek culture. Macedonians were and will always be greeks according to all historical facts and historians worldwide
I been there and stood in a castle that was definitely green on top of a big ass mountain with nothing but desert in all direction it was super weird place for a castle but definitely very easy to protect
I can’t wait to tell my friends about this and take credit for doing my own research 😂
Facts my cousin said they walked thru some ruins in 11 while he was in the Marines
Welcome to the Hellenistic era of the 4000 years of Hellenic history Joe, nice to meet you. 😊
It what indo Greek kingdom the time when indian culture and Greek culture had huge cultural exchange
Imagine if Joe brought actually archaeologists and historians on his show instead of Graham Hancock.
Right?! Even a Muslim. He’s constantly guessing about Islam
History never fails to amaze me 💯
Per my understanding from school:
During the time of the Rig Veda's composition the Aryans were flourishing in central Afghanistan, from where they then migrated to Iran and India. For this reason the Sanskrit and Avestan languages shared a common origin and up to a point were mutually intelligible.
Early Afghanistan's ancient peoples included the Assyrians, the Achaemenids, the Greco-Bactrians, the Kushans, the Ephthalites or Hephthalites, and the Arabs.
Ancient Afghanistan was a religious, cultural, and commercial link between the East and the West.
The Bactrian Kingdom, known to historians as the Greco-Bactrian Kingdom or simply Greco-Bactria, was a Hellenistic-era Greek state.
Gandhara, a region encompassing the South-east of Afghanistan, was also a center of Hinduism since the time of the Vedic Period ( c. 1500 - c. 1200 BCE), along with Buddhism.
If you’re a Nirvana fan, look into the details of Jason Everman’s tour with the band in 1989, it’s one of their most overlooked yet interesting periods of time
How's this relevant
er jason everman is the guy being interviewed by JR and he talks on subject of alexander thr great’s greek cities in l Afganistan
Joe needs to have some historians/archeologists on his show. I’m all for the “alternative”/“deep history” types like the Graham Hancocks and the Randall Carlsons and the Robert Schochs to talk about ice age civilizations and cataclysms as I think those are perfectly valid realms of research, but recorded history or “mainstream” history, if you’d like, is immensely fascinating as well
Plenty in kings and generals channel
Back in the day Up in old Kandahar, where this ancient greek city is located by the name of “old Kandahar”. Every time there was heavy rain, people would go there and collect all kinds of ancient coins and artifacts like that. Basically anyone who went would collect coins (I’m talking about pre 1970s before the Russian invasion)
Coins are notoriously buoyant.
@@LeatherCladVegan not really. Depends on the material of the coins. Gold coins sink. Silver floats.
My father recalls literally collecting fist Fulls of coins and all kinds of smaller artifacts before the soviet invasion. At the time they didn’t realize how much those pieces were worth, and unfortunately everything my family had was left behind. Now we’re located in Canada and wish we were able to bring those priceless artifacts
The Nazi’s visited a lot of these sites as well and conducted research and studies. The afghan government at the time was allied with the nazi party and they conducted some business together as well as infrastructure/engineering projects.
@bastiat I'm pretty sure the NAZIs visited because they were seeking the grail.
You guys have no idea, there was great connection between old greek and indo... they have lot of similarities as well
Iskander was Alexander’s best friend. Zoroaster was born in Afghanistan, the Vedas began in Afghanistan.
I've been wanting to see Jason Everman on here FOREVER!!! Hell yeah Joe!
..I've heard of Alexander the Greek chasing people into the Hunza Valley...above Pakistan in which he never found them in the Himalayas but they've been there ever since...so this makes sense to me...
Thank u joe for showing love to Afghanistan ❤🇦🇫
This is classic JRE a guy brings up a subject that he knows very little about 😂 big fan of them discussing it though I would blow joes mind with facts about Alexander and his campaigns if his reaction in this is anything to go by.
We had a Marine base in an old castle of Alexander the Great in Afghanistan when I was there. Never got to see it myself sadly. Did see a bunch of old Russian tanks though, that country is a graveyard of civilizations