What Happened to the Greek Settlers in Ancient India and Pakistan?
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- What happened to the Greek settlers in ancient India and Pakistan that have been around the area for at least 2,000 years? Today, we're going to look at the history of the former area of the Macedonian empire under Alexandros III of Macedon, better known to the rest of the world as Alexander the Great.
Sorry about the crappy echo that's especially apparent while wearing headphones. I just moved into my new apartment, and there is hardly anything in there to absorb sound, hence why it echoes.
Be sure to let me know your thoughts on Alexander the Great, the Macedonian empire, the Indo-Greeks and their descendants to this day. Thanks for watching!
To everyone screaming about there not being an "India" before the British- that is a red herring discussion. Of course there wasn't, the nation state was a Western European innovation. There was no "Greece" either. But there was most definitely a "Hellenistic" culture that was recognized by all people who knew them, and there was most definitely a "Hindu", or Indus, culture that was equally recognizable. There was no "Mongolia" but no one doubted there were Mongols. People were referred to by their shared culture, not our modern concept of a nation state.
Yes, I agree. There was no nation-state but there was most definitely a common identity.
Agreed
Ooooo,yes,there was "Helenistic"culture,Englishmans made it for them. They first liberated them from Turks, find them German king and at last made them cultural.
Greeks didn't need the English to "create" a culture for us, hahaha, our culture is much, much older than that of the English. There was never a period in 4,000 years when the Greek language wasn't spoken in the region of the southern Balkans. Our civilization changed Europe and the world. From the Greek speaking Minoans, Ionians, Byzantines to the modern Greeks, we have the names, language and live in the same geographic area.
Even in the Ottoman Empire the Greek people had a head of State in the person of the Ecumenical Patriarch and Greek was the language of the Orthodox Church. In 1821 Greece was the first nation to gain independence from the Ottomans. and of course the official language was Greek. So, what CULTURE did the English create for us?
Ancient Greece:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greece#/media/File:Map_of_Archaic_Greece_(English).jpg
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Byzantine_Greece_ca_900_AD.svg
www.britannica.com/topic/Greek-language/The-middle-phases-Koine-and-Byzantine-Greek#ref603499
Incorrect. Philip of Macedonia united Greece.
I have travelled the Hindu kush and Imagined Alexander walking across with his army, siege weapons, farm animals, families its mind blowing. You cannot imagine what the hymylayas are like until yours eyes have layed upon them photos do no justice
What are they like? Describe them
Hindu Kush is not Himalayas tbh. I live in the Himalayas and have done many treks Himalayas are a different world altogether. You'll automatically become spiritual when you'll see the grandeur of the mountains and how easy it is to die here.
@@adhrit1426 hindu kush is where hindus were killed
So u might feel pessimistic
@@michaeljosephjackson2364 they were not killed they died while crossing the mountain passes when they were taken as prisoners due to extreme cold
Did you imagine the Greeks and Alexander being defeated in India as they packed up and left? Did you also imagine Alexander being wounded in India which led to his death?
I am from Northwest Pakistan, Oldest man made structure in my town is Indo-Greek Architecture (Probably Bactrian Culture)
Chitrali?
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There are still Greek style structures all the way down to northern Punjab.
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Greeks were there in Bactria even before Alexander.
Persian Kings used to throw rebellious Greeks (from population within his kingdom) there. It was like am ancient Gulag.
And Alexander liberated his fellow countrymen. Well said my friend
Very true
Why would Aryan Kings of Persia want Greek "dagoes" living in Bactria? Seems highly unlikely.
all balcan was ilirian albanain ..till 1920 athens has spoken albanian..........all greece albanian..university of athens.........www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr4iAv-
Correct. I remember reading something about Alexander being surprised on discovering Greek settlements in Bactria and Central Asia. Interesting stuff.
ancient Macedonia is not located in modern Macedonia . It is still a province in northern Greece
Plus what it's on the map he shows here is currently the Greek one
Macedonia not only is greek but in our language it also means something....
Hussein313 northern Macedonia is made up of Slavs and Albanians. Proper Macedonia is a province in Greece were the true Greek Macedonia’s reside. North Macedonia are imposters who arrived 1300 years after Alexander the Great . Ancient Macedonians spoke Greek and considered themselves Greek
@@asani9835 Yes Hussein. But again it is very wrong that the goverment of Greece accepted this name. People in this country called north Macedonia are South Slavic people and their language belong in the Slavic family of languages. They have no relation to the ancient Macedonians who were Greek and spoke the Maceedonian dialect ofbthe Greek language which is 100% Greek. Their names, their religion and gods, their traditions and all the scriptures upon marbles are all Greek.
@@asani9835 But still the people of North Macedonia want to believe they are the true Macedonians and that the ancient Macedonians were not Greek. But Alexander and his army spread the Greek civilization and language throughout all the countries they conquered. All civilizations know him as Greek
Alexander the Great started conquering the most powerful empire the world had ever seen at the time when he was only 20 years old. I turn 21 in a month. What am I doing with my life?
Thanks for watching guys! Sorry about the crappy echo in the video, there's a bad echo in this new apartment, but I'll find a way to fix it next time!
I had no idea Greek was spoken in Central Asia or India! Crazy cool!
Masaman congrats on making it this far :)!
Looks like the Greeks were the first Europeans to invade India, not the Britishers.
Julius Caesar said the same thing when he was a young man, gazing upon the statue of Alexander at Gibraltar. You never know whats going to happen in your future. :)
the greek influence on buddhist representative art is also an interesting development of hellenistic cultural diffusion
I am from India, Punjab region from my paternal side (A bit of ancestors also from Pakistan before division) and my dad used to tell me about these tales of Indo-European settlers mixing within our ancient civilization. He used to tell me about these stories even before any such studies were widely popular or available to the masses. Today I remember it all, which makes me feel that we should respect our elders and cherish the things they have to say, there is a lot of truth in their stories, my dad mostly have heard it from his ancestors which kept on passing it as word to mouth through generations. I wouldn't say the features are prominent as due to dilution of genes but yes familial passing of traits such as green eyes and fair skin is quiet evident throughout. Fair skin which ideally isn't a favorable trait in a sun swept terrain could be a product of such ethnic mixing.
Nope, Indians Pakistanis have a gene that mutuates making skin fair and eyes coloured in the same family, it was find out by scientific study and not by ethnic mixing.
Nope, Indians Pakistanis have a gene that mutates making skin fair and eyes coloured in the same family, it was find out by scientific study and not by ethnic mixing.
Nope, Indians Pakistanis have a gene that mutates making skin fair and eyes coloured in the same family, it was find out by scientific study and not by ethnic mixing.
Hey p@jeet stop your obsession with other ffs okay😤
Fair skin isn't that bad at the latitude of North India
Aristotle was teacher of Alexander the great not Vladimir, there isn't a modern Macedonian state, there is only Greek Macedonia.
Whys it matter...alexander preffered other cultures anyways guys
Yah yah, everything its Greek.even Jesus was Greek.they stole from us.
@@MrShkodrani1980 huh....im lost... i know back in the day there was a whole little greek supremacy thing even tho the greeks who did hold supremacy of the ancient world are NOTHING like the ones today but o be honest i as an american dont know much of the geopolitical wierdness that goes on in greece. Hard economic times plus influx of refugees at the same time makes people spiteful but to me greece was always ther cultural burning pot of the world with persian wars and such which shows both worlds were in contact and therefore immagration and sharing of knowledge and commerce was a thing. I dont know if this was a bit of a ramble but honestly i am lost looking at all these hateful comments filled with what seems like anger and contempt
Yes
@@MrShkodrani1980 kid learn history...slavs never existed at ancient times...the ancient greek Macedonia was a greek Kingdom were the people had greek culture and ancient greek language.....whoever alexander met he was greek, Alexander learned a lot of greek investions like philosophy, mathematics, astronomy and he spreaded greek culture around the world....What do you have to say Now??????? Nothing
The error in this video is that the ancient Greek Kingdom of Macedonia is located exactly in northern Greece, in Greece's northern territory of Macedonia and NOT in the modern country called the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) which was named Macedonia in 1944 for political reasons. FYROM was in fact Ancient Paeonia but was never Macedonia.
Although Paeonia was conquered by the northern Greek Macedonians under Philip, Paeonia became a dependency of Macedonia for a short time, (as was the area of Bulgaria (ancient Thrace)), but it was never Macedonia. Today FYROM is inhabited by a medieval Slavic people related to the Bulgarians.
Now,you made Gordian knot. What is ancient Greek Kingdom? You made funny mixature,even Bulgarians are here. In time of Paeonia there was not Greek Macedonians under Filip,Filip subjukate only Athens city. If you dont understand something read Demosten s Filipikas then you maybe understand what origin is Filip,after dhat and Alexandar Macedonian.
@Lord Shrenny My Lord,you must be geneius. I heavyly undersud Serbian from 18 century,from 12 century recognise every 10th word. You have too many words for same thing,it means you are still in developing.
@@srdjanbasaric517 Philip was from Peloponnese and his wife from Epirus 100% Greeks they were speaking Greek and they believed to the twelve gods what else stupid you want to be Greek ? they did not speak Slavic language.... no mater what you say you never will be Macedonian or the descendant of Alexander the Great ....... 🤪
There are actually a lot more errors in the video, and it's quite remarkable that such errors are perpetuated in the 21st century. Greeks are generally coarse-featured, fleshy-nosed, swarthy "dagoes" (as Trump would likely call them). The light-skinned, dolichocephalic, pointy-nosed, "light-colored" people seen in "Punjab" (as claimed by the video-maker), and elsewhere are largely the result of the Aryan heritage of the people (that preceded Alexander by a number of millennia), but also including more recent Aryan migrations from Afghanistan/Northern Pakistan. Such traits are common among their Kurdish, Persian, Pashtun, Tajik, Kashmiri, etc. brethren. Genetic studies have already been done, and no evidence of a Greek origin for Y-chromosomes was found for those in the northern regions.
Additionally, Alexander's army was defeated by the "Paktues" (Pakhtun tribesmen) of the "Af-Pak" region, whom the ancient Greek historian Herodotus described as the bravest and "most war-like" of peoples. Alexander's broken army was driven out after 2 and a half years of desultory warfare against the Afghans. Alexander had to kill a number of his own men, who mutinied as a result of their demoralization and likely PTSD (near the Beas river in Northern India), after their defeat by "Paktuike".
The Bactrian Kingdom was based primarily in Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, etc, generally north of Afghanistan. While the Indo-Greek realm was based south of Afghanistan in Northern India. Between these were the independent Pakhtun tribes who had broken Alexander's army. The map that the "documentary"-maker employed to show these kingdoms as "contiguous" is quite false.
@@AK-dd9od Alexander never lost a battle! What the fuck are you talking about?
The video has a mistake. Alexander the Great was born in ancient Greece on Pella, which is today, the modern northern Greek state of Macedonia.
He was born in Babylon
@@mrpopo5097 bruh
@@mrpopo5097 he died there but he wasn’t born there
Northern Greek REGION you mean, unlike "state". Greeks aren't divided in City-States anymore. The Slavic State North of Greece has nothing to do with us. They're Yugoslavs and even some Turk-Albanian Muslims.
! Wow WA
I love it "What Happened to the Greek Settlers in Ancient India and Pakistan?" , Greeks are everywhere
Many, many of their descendants are living inside Pakistan (Kalash, Brusho and other ethnicities), but of course their blood is mixed with the locals as they arrived in Ancient India (modern day Pakistan) nearly 2000 years ago. Alexander's horses also discovered the second largest salt mine in the world which is in Pakistan and it's 100-200 KM away from my home xD
@@yilonmusk1189 kailash people are not GREEK. They have ARYAN blood
@@yilonmusk1189 This is a myth. Their european looking features are from far older indo-european migrations, they just didn't mix with other groups that much because they were isolated in the mountains
@yilonmusk1189 kalash aren't Greek. They are predominately Indic people. Even their culture is some sort of voodoo hoodooo ancient Hindu.
"Buddhism was spread from west to east, through the Bactrian kingdom, and then on to East and South East Asia, and not the other way around"
----I do find that hard to believe since Buddhism spread after Emperor Asoka sent missionaries to various places. Buddhism started in South Asia and from there spread to East Asia, South East Asia and Central Asia.
Without weapon
@@chidanandnaik7834 very interesting parallel universe theory. You should make comics
In this universe however, Buddhism came out of Hinduism. Hinduism has its origins in india. It is literally the term used for the beliefs of the people living near and beyond the Indus, or Hind in Persian from which 'hindu' comes. So it's absurd and inaccurate to say Hinduism came from 'foreigners'.
@@justtheusualcrazy2022 yeah true
Even Lord Buddha is considered as 9th Avatar of Lord Vishnu
It arrived with Dionysos, read Nonos of Panopolis, all his writings exist and are still published. Ta Indika, INDIA, describes how he went there, etc.Nonos wrote from Alexandria, Egypt, around 350 b.c.The original pre -Olympian belief here in Greece as well, books still exist, starting with Arcadia. Very interesting how queens were replaced over time. To this day most toponyms are female here in Greece although the church does its best to 'remedy' this!!!!
@Dhiraj Singh Ashoka the Great was born AFTER Alexander the Great. Dionysos had been to India LONG BEFORE both these heroes were born.
You got your locations mixed up there Masaman.Ancient like modern day Macedonia still sits in modern day Northern Greece and its still called Macedonia.Pella was the capital of Macedonia and it still sits in Modern day Greece.FYROM is not Macedonia.They speak a Bulgarian dialect and are of Slavic descent.
alexander macedonian was slavic )
@@tapikoBlends Yeah sure and Martin Luther King was German..LOL..
@@cobone04 )
@@tapikoBlends the slavic is not even a cultural entity until the end of the ancient era (fall of Western Roman), let alone in B.C.E.
@Мастурбек Кумысович alexander comes from greek 'Alexandros' in the same way phillip comes from the greek 'phillipos'
I actually have an Indian friend (Technically with ties to what is currently Pakistani territory, but after 1947 they moved east since they are Hindu) and he found he actually has a whole 2 percent Greek DNA even after thousands of years.
b333999
really !! your whole India is a shithole compared to Brooklyn and Harlem 😅😅
b333999
they are CEOs not founder of Facebook, Google or even TH-cam. those billionaires you are talking about are crook, corrupts just like an average Indian. I read a news recently where billionaires of your countries are not paying back bank loans. a browny no matter how much he makes will always remain cheap...
I wonder what would you ppl of shithole India post on Instagram and Snapchat ?? 😅😅
b333999
even in debt our countries are more developed than India. atleast our ppl don't shit on railway tracks 😅😅
we don't have naked godmen running around eating human feces and half burnt deadbodies...
our women dont get gangraped in a temple...
we don't harbor godmen pedophile rapist as Baba's and Sadhooo's who release sex tapes 😂😂
you ppl wish you could be like one of us... 😂😂
you know west is progressive, more developed and civilised...
b333999
"madical treatment" learn to spell tree-hanger 😂😂
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we roam naked bcuz we know our ppl won't gang rape our women, our women are safe culturally and we have better law and order than shithole India...
Anicent Macedonia is not located modern day Makedonia or FYROM. Anicent Macedonia prior to Philip and his son Alexander the Great, 90% of Anicent Makedonia is located in Greek province Macedonia.
98%*. Bitolo and some area in south fyrom belong to greece
Yes dude...
Ancient Greek city states were not backward they were astonishing advanced in their culture.
they took it in the ass backward
@@Ramsez Come and I will show you how they did it ...
@SATRAPI Look away, look away, traitor, how they flood your country.
@@Ramsez That is going on everywhere in the planet and one day we all will have a big war over it,,, This is happening because of the lefties who are so FC and traitors something like you ...
all balcan was ilirian albanain ..till 1920 athens has spoken albanian..........all greece albanian..university of athens.........www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr4iAv-
Slavs didn't exist in Alexander's years, they came in the Balkans 900 hears after him.. so how can Skopjans be Macedonians/Greek? It is ridiculous..
:))) Slavs are more ancient than the earth:))) you didn't know that? God created slavs then earth and then the rest:)))
@Tomáš Spevák history, they steal our history
@@gavrilo46 actually they were not considered barbarians because they participated in the Olympics. If they were barbarians they wouldn't. Actually they had the same culture Alexander spread it in the M.E. Btw Persia enslaved them and then Alexander wasn't even born I wanted to state that. "Maybe not a slav" the stupidest thing I have ever heard. He was for sure not a slav
and important. indoeuropean languiges come from india. but have no similarity whit 1 single indian word. compare sanskrit whit serbian, poland, russian, croatian languige. you will see 90% maching. so indoeuropean languige is just fake. how can german, greek france be indo when they have 0% similarity :D slavic-sanskrit 90% if slavs came in 700 after Christ then how Vinca have 10 000 BC same dna :) and we have languige that is far from balkan or any slavic country. if we never was in india how the similarity??? vatican, greeks liers in the history
@MFT69 Alexander has a meaning in ancient Greek you stupid. Have you ever read ancient Greek? Almost same to modern Greek. Albanians stealing is commons
The same applies (greek blood in their veins) to south France south Italy turkey Syria Egypt Crimea Lebanon Palestine and Persia
maybe the opposite
news.softpedia.com/news/DNA-Clears-Up-The-Origin-of-the-Etruscans-57551.shtml
www.phoenician.org/sea_peoples.htm
Cybele Kiliç ιf dna of cyprus exist in 32 countries maybe is not the opposite
Cyprus? Hmm. All I know is that mass migration from Anatolia to the world
Cybele Kiliç yes but they went from Anatolia thousand years ago they dont come from europe there exept the later pirates who destroyed civilizations
You forgot Egypt. My ex boss was married to a Greek lady from Egypt.
The ancient greek kingdom of Macedon was located entirely within modern day Greece. The modern country named Former Yugoslavic Republic of Macedonia falls on a territory which corresponds with the ancient region named Paeonia which was inhabited by a Hellenised people named Paeonians.
Maurya emperor Chandragupta married a Greek governor daughter and had friendly relations with his neighbour Greek ruler after showing his strength that he is invincible to defeat. Many of his people married Greeks and lot of mixing in gene pool.
@Pichkalu Pappita lol at usual hindunationalist lies, Seleucus was at war with other Greeks at the same time, gave only one daughter, in return he got 500 war elephants, which he used to win the wars in the West, and Alexander was no demoralized, his troops were, Alexander merely turned south and conquered the entire Indus valley in just three months; th-cam.com/video/5fFqlAdDi70/w-d-xo.html
@Pichkalu Pappita again, Alexander defeated everyone in the Indus valley in just 3 months. His troops revolted because they were in 15 years of war campaign and had enough. India had nothing to do with it.
@Pichkalu Pappita The conquest of the Mallian campaign was not just against one tribe. The Maurya formed after Alexander died so that point is moot, considering how easy Maurya destroyed the Nanda, it is obvious they were in a decline and Alexander could have done the same Alexander died literally years after he returned to Babylon, there is no mystery there lol. Seleucus did not intend to invade India, he was literally in a succession war against other Greek kings in the west, which is why he could not fight at two fronts. Again, Seleucus only gave one daughter lol, the youngest one, in return for alliance and 500 war elephants, the Seleucids and Mauryas remained on friendly terms for ever after. The last sentence you give for the elephants is so comical that is shows just how blinded you have become from historical nationalism. In fact, the original source with Seleucus does not even mention a daughter, the daugher is merely mentioned in a skew source 1000 years after the marriage, and again, it is a single daughter. The primary source states a marriage exchange and an alliance in return. You would know this if you actually read history instead of Hindunationalist forums. Pathetic.
@Pichkalu Pappita Literally everything I said here is mainstream historiography. While you stated your own personal theories and ideas, stating daughters instead of daughter, Alexander dying in the Indus, elephants purposefully left behind instead of gifted etc. etc. none of which his truth, but rather your own wishful thinking because it makes you feel better, because your people equate the conquests of the Greeks with foreign rule of the British, and this makes you very butthurt, for not fucking reason, since the Greeks had nothing to do with Brits. How do you even deal with the later Indo-Greek conquests to Pataliputra?
i.imgur.com/V86L2IV.jpg
Must make your brain melt.
@@neutralfellow9736 lol even the Mauryans were at conflict with the Deccan and southern kingdoms and they had just established their empire and hadn't even consolidate it still he beat selecus
Alexander the Great was of a Greek family, and the area of Macedonia was also Greek for the most part.
Alexander was from a partially Greek family. His people were not.
It is true Greeks were fighting between themselves and Philip united Greece but Macedonians were Greek too , like the Minoans, like the Spartans, Like the Athenians, like the Thebans, like the Thracians, everyone were Greek they spoke Greek they had the same Gods they had the same culture so understand that they were not foreign ,,,like for example the Persians they were foreign but not the Macedonians they were and still are Greek ...
@@astrapi4343 look fyrom wants the greek macedonians which calls them macedonians they call the greek macedonians guys put out wifi passport macedoniaisgreek
@@AK-dd9od Alexander was totally Greek. The father Phillip II from the Greek royal house of the Argeads, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argead_dynasty, and mother Olympias from the Greek royal house of the Molossians, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molossians. Macedonians were likewise Greek, archaeological finds prove it among many other things. Have a look at the "Pella curse tablet" inscription, which is in a NW-Doric Greek dialect and is what the local Macedonians spoke, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pella_curse_tablet, which i can read and understand perfectly as a modern Greek speaker.
@Saitan Asker you are Greek
I am from Punjab Pakistan side near salt range where they're salt mines which Alexander horses discover when they started licking salty stone &there old grave yard with horses grave stone nearby place called katas famous Hindu temple they were soldiers of Alexander the Great
@@ssheikh3598 Your comment is the dumbest ever I have seen on TH-cam.
@@ssheikh3598 actually the hindus of North india are much fair in skin tone similar to the Pakistani people. I am a brahman of state haryana.. and my skin tone is fair and physic is much better than the dravid of south india. Even the brahmans of south india are black but in North India we have fair tone skin mainly in all castes. Skin tone is not depends on religion. The Muslims in India are mainly black.
@@Papashrii no lower castes are dark skinned mainly in Madhya Pradesh, bengal, uttarpradesh, Rajasthan, Gujarat, Maharashtra, orissa
@@Papashrii Your skin tone and physic isn't "better" than the Dravidians of South India, it's different. Your diet is generally more fatty and that's why people in north India tend to be more doughy and plump. The people in south India generally have darker skin and more lean and compact muscle. I believe that's why I have seen many occasions in which smaller south Indian men are often stronger than the doughy north Indian men.
Also the Muslims in India are not mainly black. It depends if they're a south Indian muslim who was most likely converted or a muslim who migrated into India from Afghanistan or one of those places.
@@anishpinto1 non of you're talks even seen to get any logic . We north indian of Haryana have much fair skin tone and and taller than you. We are among the strongest in india. Thats why we Haryana get more than 30% medal in spots than any other state in whole india. We tends to have large muscle than tiny and black south indian. We are much fair and best in physics for games and war. And south indian eats more fatty item than us and we are lage farmers and we have tendency generate more energy than south indian.
Alexander the Great was Greek. Macedonians were Dorian Greeks just like Spartans, Epirotes, and Corinthians.
Spiri Donas
Epirots were Illyrians not Greeks.
Pellasgian weren’t they closely related
Alexander was from FYROM, and a Macedonian Slav. Quit lying Greek. Lol.
@@dfj555 Well his name is of Greek origin, he spoke the Greek language and he spread the Greek culture on the places he conquered. Maybe you are the one lying, to yourself.
@@sarasker Sarcasm my friend sarcasm. You must not be very bright.
GREEK ENDLESS GLORY !!!!!!
Endless ?
It was yesterday 🤣
British follows.
Ancient Greek history played only about 200 years. Since that time, Greeks have given the world nothing 😂 Pakistan has 10000 years of history. We are greater than you!
@@AS-vq3wt You have contributed little compared to the Greeks. Your tinpot country which most try and escape because it's so poor has only been around for 75 years. The Greeks their philosophy, mathematics, engineering, drama have been central to European culture. Greater than Greece. Another deluded idiot.
I discovered your channel today and I've been binge watching all afternoon. Thanks for taking the time to research and make those videos, it's great content.
Proud to say : MACEDONIA IS ONLY GREEK
Greece >Oguzs Türkic ,gayrees dna >West asian Oguzs Türkic Central asian 40℅ Old TÜRKÎC haahah (1453 Sivaslı TÜRK)
@@sosyalkayip6088 brain cancer?
@@thletrelas3817 he's a turk calling us gay and insulting us with 1453 (fall of Constantinople) also i like how our country is older than turkey, and yeah hr has brain damage.
MACEDONIA KICEVO is your dreams Fakeodonia
MACEDONIA KICEVO Macedonia or Fakeodonia is a NATION from 1993... the city is Greece
Not the Greeks and The Macedonians... The Greeks of Alexander the Great... Alexander was Greek From the Region of Macedonia Like Attika Pelloponicos and Epirus and all the other Greek Regions...
You're videos and information are so thorough and on point. I'm a life long student of history and anthropology and very much appreciate the information you are putting out ! Thank you!
Solid video man, keep it up!
The ancient Kingdom of Macedonia is in northern Greece. The modern country called Republic of Macedonia was ancient Paeonia not Macedonia.
I wish you would stop saying the Greeks and Macedonians, the Macedonians were and are Greek.
The Macedonians represented their own group no different than Athenians and Spartans.
they ate bugatsa too?
Actually they were more Thracian that Greek but go on.
@@gamotheos only the best since the best is in Thessaloniki.
Noooot exactly.
The legend says that Macednos and Hellin, the founders of the Macedonians and the Hellenes were cousins, while Graekos, the founder of the Greeks (The western Hellenic tribe) was the nephew of Hellin.
@@MouAresounTaPneusta Yes and in Greek mythology, the Thracians were descendants of Thrax, son of Ares. Similarly, the Persians claimed to be descendants of Perseus. Mythology proves nothing
I'm from Pella the birthplace of Alexander the Great in Greece
Just a correction, the kingdom of macedonia was located mostly in modern Greece, with the capital, and all other major cities being in what is now greece. The modern day "macedonians" have no unique connection to the ancient kingdom. They speak a slavic language and have slavic traditions while the ancient macedonians where culturally and linguisticaly hellenic. Geneticaly, their connection is no stronger than that of the Bulgarians next door. Hence the controversy with them using the name "Macedonia"
Thomas South Slavs are not pure Slavic though. They are mixed with the original inhabitants. And Macedonians and Bulgars do have spme different genetics, Macedonians being the mix of Slavs and ancient Macedonians and Bulgars beint the mix of Slavs and Thracians.
The location of the country is so far north that the non-slavic admixture is probably more from Paeonians and far less from Macedonians, keep in mind that most Macedonian urban centers were in the south. If they are to make an ancestry claim from the Macedonians based on this sliver of genetic connection, it's gonna be very weak. Also, by this logic, both the Albanians and the Bulgarians can make the same claim.
correct...as in map pictured in the current video
Not really true though, Alexander I, back during the Persian wars proved the Hellenic identity of the macedonians in front of the hellanodikai. The only ones that objected were some politicians in Athens...
Thomas, is that why the Greeks formed an alliance of city-states, including some traditional rivals, to march against Philip II to curb his power in the Battle of Chaeronea in 338 BC?
Yes, the Macedonians considered themselves Hellenic. But the rest of Greece didn't. Not until a good deal later.
8:31 i can clrearly read the :ΤΑΥΤΑ ΠΟΙΟΥΝΤΕΣ ΔΙΑΖΟΥΣΙΝ !OMG greek letters didint change trhough thousand years form
Our words are still the same or they derive from the ancient words. What has changed is mostly our syntax.
Translate it please
translate ( we will do all this for all the time (for ever))
It was probably a treaty
Ohh thanks...i thought its true meaning is that youngs is discussing or youngs will always discuss :)
I try to read all but i cant because i canot see all the letters.
It was a law for fishermen and hunters And a law it has to be in a stone so everybody can read.
Really very nice video, full of all kinds of data. I appreciated specifically the maps and the arts pictures. Well documented and 🎯 ing thoroughly the subject. On the contrary, I didn't notice the echo you talked about at the end. Everything was perfect ! 👍
There is likely Greek genes persisting in parts of Pakistan where a fused Asian - Greek culture existed after many soldiers and generals settled and created a civilization but I don't think there would be any evidence of this in India since Alexander's soldiers traveled and settled in what is now Pakistan.
It would make sense to settle deeper into India at first but then you factor in the fact that the deeper you go the more hostile the populace would’ve been to Greeks. Settling on Pakistan would’ve been a good choice, 2 deserts on each side and only 5 rivers between them
This was a very well done and informative video. Are you going to do more videos on similar subjects such as this? If so please do. Keep up the superb work.
Masaman
You made a mistake. The ancient Greek Kingdom of Macedonia of Alexander the Great is located in Macedonia in northern Greece. The SLavic (former Yugoslvai) country called "Republic of Macedonia" or FYROM was in ancient time known as Paeonia, before the ancestors of the present slav population, Bulgars and Serbs, settled there
Very good explanation on what happened to Alexander's soldiers who decided to stay in India. This is the explanation I had been looking for many years. Thanks.
Nothing happened to the Greek Settlers in Ancient India and Pakistan , we are here in Macedonia Greece/Hellas.
@@yilonmusk1189 Macedonian and Greek is the same , Macedonians are Greeks just like Athenians are Greeks and Spartans are Greeks etc.
@Alexios I Komnenos means they are indians
Because their dna has no root to greece
You should make more in-depth videos like this. It is really enjoyable to watch your videos and learn the history and peoples of our world. I really like it.
Ancient Macedonians were Greeks, just like Spartans, Athenians, Ionians etc.
Macedonians are Greeks and live in northern Greece, which that district was and still is called Macedonia.
The (slavs)bulgarians/albanians that are living in Vardar Banovina (Вардарска бановина) and renamed to "F.Y.R.O.M." or just "Macedonia" after 1990 have nothing to do with Macedonia or Greece, therefore they need to pick a new name for their country.
You can read more in the link below:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonia_naming_dispute
Minoans ,Spartans,Mycenaeans,Trojans all had black hair,they were not Europeans but Indo-Aryans
Greek nationalism alert
Mr. Dude Nothing at all except some of the further right Greeks seem to believe their historical greatness entitles them to some how dictate all former Greek lands. Such as the case with Macedonia where for some reason many Greeks seemed to be insulted by its mere existence. Which is rather ironic considering Greeks in the Balkan Wars, obviously unknowingly, lead to its eventual creation.
wayne h You are wrong. Many of the ancient and modern Greeks had/have blue or green eyes and blond/brown or ginger hair . Alexander the great had blue eyes and blonde hair and he was 100% Greek. The majority thought, has/had the characteristics you mentioned.
Albanians are not slavs
Outstanding! Glad I found your channel.
What are your sources? I’ve heard so many versions of this same history.
I am Greek and I can read and understand every ancient inscription that have found in southern Greece(Athens,Sparta)or in northern Greece(Macedonia).If the people of fyrom can read them too,then we,gladly,will admit that they are Macedonians.For example,what means the phrase that Alexander the Great wrote after the battle of Granicus:"ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟΥ ΚΑΙ ΟΙ ΕΛΛΗΝΕΣ ΠΛΗΝ ΛΑΚΕΔΑΙΜΟΝΙΩΝ ΑΠΟ ΤΩΝ ΒΑΡΒΑΡΩΝ ΤΩΝ ΤΗΝ ΑΣΙΑΝ ΚΑΤΟΙΚΟΥΝΤΩΝ".Please dear friends from FYROM,translate if you can.But if you can't,then stop propaganda that you are Macedonians and admit the truth:That you are Slavs.There is not something bad with it.
KARNA werent the Greeks one of the first to follow the monotheistic religions
We use the internet and speak English, does that make us westerners?
@@user-fl9fp5vi7d Opaio!!
Language and genetics have nothing to do with each other. Plenty of black people who only speak English. Plenty of Basques who only speak Spanish. Whether Macedonians can read Greek is irrelevant, it proves nothing.
ALEZANDROY MEANING NAME,ALBANIAN ALE ZAN TROY, GREECE MEGALO KATARTITI,
INGLES GREAT CONQUEROR, ITALI GRANDE CONCUISTATORE, ALEZANDROY IS WORD OF ALBANIA.
You made 1 mistake, ancient Macedon doesnt correspond to modern Fyrom. Where Fyrom is its the Pelagonia not Macedonia and today is inhabited by Albanians and Bulgarians.
Philopator On Indeed. FYROM has nothing to do with ancient Macedonia heritage. Macedonians were the Greek tribe that united the Greek city states and saved them from the Persian danger. Alexander the Great, a living God at his time, spread hellenism to the world and paved the way for christisnity.
one thing to add here: the Greeks didn't really like the Macedonians. I remember reading about Macedonians not being allowed to take part in the Olympic games before the 5th century BC, because they weren't percieved as 'Greek', but barbarian. Before the Argead dynasty established their ancestral myth and claimed to be descended from ancient kings of Argos, nobody even viewed them as Greek, and before Philip and Alexander conquered Greece, nobody took them seriously.
Lesson: Ancient Greeks were epic assholes, even to their own people (looking at you, Sparta).
Dejan Hrovat everything that is famous is greek,mother tereza too,jesus also😂😂😂😂
Not mother Teresa, but Jesus Christ maybe
There wasn't a Greek nation back then. There were not Greek citizens...There were Athenian/Spartans/Macedonian and many more...But all of them were HELLENIC. The Hellenic race. Hellines ( Έλληνες) In Greek.
Indeed the Greek legacy of Alexander the Great extended from Egypt to India.
He could even reach India he lost war by poras he was from Indus valley nowadays (Pakistan)
He could even reach India he lost war by poras he was from Indus valley nowadays (Pakistan)
He lost against king Porus and went back to his place.
The Nanda empire was much stronger than Greek empire
This is something I have been curious about (not enough to Google it up). I remember reading in school about how North western India had Indo Greek empires. I don't know what race they belonged to or how the two cultures interacted. There has been a surge in TV drama shows in India which contain ancient Greek characters which interact with Indians and participate in its politics but there history and drama is mixed up.
Edit: What was the race of the Kushans? Were they Persians or Greeks? Or mixed?(alongwith locals)
Chandan Bhowal Kushans were Eastern Iranic, like the Pashtuns.
Thanks for posting this. I became interested in Alexander's India campaign through my study of Ayurveda (Vedic Medicine). I was amazed to find so many cognates in Sanskrit medical terminology and our own modern medical vocabulary which could relate to this time in history, or possibly common origins within the Indo-European language family. Also certain theoretical principles of Ayurveda appear to be related to what little we know of ancient Greek medicine, from which our modern medicine purports to descend. It appears to me that there was a robust cross-insemination taking place between Greek civilization and the Buddhist learning centers like Taxila which submitted peacefully to Greek domination. 500 BC is generally considered the golden age of Buddha and the Charaka Samhita, the written gospel of the Ayurvedic tradition, traces its origins back to that time.
It's rather pathetic, considering the monumental implications the India campaign had on the development of both East and West, that you should have to endure all the nationalistic and even racist comments about the implications of your study - like those remarks about the gene pool, light skin and color of the eyes. People still ready to fight about it 2500 years later....
which is now modern day Pakistan
@@mrexpress8002 Not when Alexander lived.
Greek in India Become Buddhist in India. Ayurveda is Buddhist Medicine. Not vedic.
😂 It's called Ayurvedic medicine - the term vedic is in the name!
Btw, the Vedas predate Buddhism by at least 1.5 thousand years
Ancient Greek philosophy got influenced by contemporary Indian. The people of Athens even buried an Indian sage in their Heroes' cemetery: the Keramikos (Cerameicos) Cemetery. According to Plutarch, the tomb of Zarmanochegas was a well-known sightseeing monument there. Of course, as already pointed out, Greeks saw as India, "Indies", the entire Indian Subcontinent, including Pakistan & Sri Lanka. The ports of Baruch ("Varygaza"), Muziris, Machilipatnam ("Massalia"), had been favorite destinations for Greek merchants from Egypt.
Long live the Pontic Greeks
Is your name Giouroukos ? From Tripoli ?
@Saitan Asker they cant let us live in pontus
@Saitan Asker I hope you get a life. Stop trolling
All greeks*
@ForMyPeople GR they are christian lazs not turks
A mostly accurate presentation except some issues. For example: Alexander's Lion helmet was not showing his conquer over the Persians. This helmet was weared by Alexander the Great much time before his expedition against Persians to show his descendance from Hercules dynasty. As you may know, Alexander from his father Filippos was descending from Macedon the son of Hercules who relocated and established in a North Greece a kingdom in an area named Macedonia from him. On the other side from his mother Olympias was descending from another Greek hero Achilleas who's son Pyrros relocated and established a Kingdom on a Greek area named Ipirus i.e. I-Pyrros that means in Greek the land of Pyrros. All these happened 3000 years ago and these areas remained Greek until now but today Albanians whose country established at 20th century and Slaves who came in the Macedonia north area only in 6th century AC claim these Greek areas helped from economic cycles.
History unfortunately is full of lies, and is always written by the winners , Greeks today they exist as a independent country because of the arvanite ( albanians ) who fought the ottomans.
@@namesurname8652 There are no Albanians ! Albania is a country established in 20th century. The vast mazority of the Albania population are Greeks from Ipiros ie descenders of the Achilleas who became muslim by force. This the truth and no muslim Albanian fought against muslim Ottomans. These all you say are bullshit.
You want to convince yourself that we ILLYRIANS (Albanians)are people that suddenly started to exist in 20th centry ,
But the truth is that you also came to this land some more time before slavs and this make you no different then them , YOU ARE BOTH INVADERS.
You made it easy for me to prove you are a liar 🤥.
Just Research :
Gjergj Kastrioti (Shqiptari) his real name
Skënder beu (alb)
Scanderbeg (eng)
Iskander - relating him with Alexander the Great.
Epirus was still an albanian territory untill ww2 where you massacre an entire population killed children and women and the rest who could escape came to their brothers in Albanian border
Maybe you forgot what you did to Chameria but we will never forget .
Soon will come the day when the Truth will be revealed and all the world will have Freedom.
Only when the Free people of this land will be free again wherever they are
in Greek territory
In Macedonian territory
Is Serbian territory
Montenegrino Territory
Or Bosnian territory .
In times of heavy rains and storms all the animals run for a place to hide
Eagles alone fly above and wait until it calms
Stefanos Beligiannis
Epirus is Albanian land idiot.
Albanians are the descendants of Ancient Illyrians/Pelasgians who are native in Balkan Peninsula.
@@TH-camr-gm9xf en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epirus_(ancient_state)
Light colored eyes in Northern India and around this area had already existed long before the arrival of the Greeks. This genetic trait belonged to the people who spoke the proto Indo-Aryan/Persian languages which were related to proto Indo-European languages. Mummies found further northeast were red-heads. You might wanna check that out. I love all your videos. They're very informative for me as I'm interested in Central-Asia study. Keep up the good work! ❤️❤️❤️
Greeks were not light eyed. Greece is hot, the eyes of them is brown and they do not have white skin but color skin because of climate. So when they mixed with locals who had similar skin and eyes, they disappeared in the locals.
@@RajA-fv4mp i think you don't know nothing for us yes we are Mediterranean people but we have also white skin or light "olive"and light eyes people not like the Vikings of course but we are not meadle East people !
This is an amazing video, I am from Northern Pakistan region located just next to Kashmir, as you mentioned that people from that region have the highest ratio of lighter eye and skin color I will affirm that! About 10% out of all my relatives have green eyes. I always wondered how a Pakistani (non Pushtun) group can have such peculiar features but this video makes a perfect sense, this must be Greek influence in our DNA. Thanks for making such an interesting video !
leothewarrior1 this video is talking about INDO people. You are pak idiot
leothewarrior1 Most pakistanis get their white skin from the arab and turk invaders who converted you to islam by islamic sex slavery
leothewarrior1 .....well the region of Pakistan were always subject to invasion so.....u could be mixed with mongol turkik and Greek blood who knows...?
Lul M8 You jealous, idol-worshiping cowshitter Hindu ignorants? The word 'Hindu' itself is enough of an insult anyway LOL
Modern day Greeks have 0,0001% light eyes
25k subscribers congratulations massman you are doing well and your videos are more deeper in ethnicity you really impressed my mind with them wish you luck and success
Can't wait for Q&A
Greetings! I have recently come to learn about your great video clips - Just one word to describe your work - Astounding! Keep up the good work and I will for sure follow all your previous works also. More power to your hands [dastet dard nakone]
Spreading lies about Macedonia since 15th of agu 2017 MACEDONIA WAS ALWAYS GREEK
@Tony Montana maybe caz the ancient greek empire macedonia is at nonexistent?
@Tony Montana we were never under the rule of persians.
Also,ancient greece exists even today through greece.and the greece as a nation also existed at alexander the greats times.when he created a greek alliance(state)by uniting the greeks.
Also,ancient greek language and modern greek language is the same.One language,the greek,so the ancient greeks.Its better to tell them greeks,as we put this "ancient"to tell that these greeks are at this ancient times.
Ancient greece=modern greece
Makedonia=greek,not scopian,which is just a mix of bulgarians and albanians
As i said,makedonia as a nation doesnt exist anymore.makedonia lives through greece,and please put out the letter c,it doesnt exist in greek language
Incorrect. If the major Greek powers thought of them as a backwater full of barbarians, *they* disagreed with you- and I'm pretty sure ancient greeks- not modern maps- have the final say in this matter.
@@zachfox5969 no they don’t. That is why history is a form of science. You have to know what was going on in that time period to fully understand why those people said what they said and did what they did. The rest of greece viewed macedonia’s growing power as a threat. Macedonians were always viewed as weak during the previous centuries. No one really cared for them too much. So the fact that their power grew so much and they started dominating did not please the athenians or the spartans at all. That is why they didn’t like them and verbally attacked them. It was kind of a propaganda of the time because there were two sides. One side wanted to make them allies and unite with them and the rest of greece and the other didn’t. So in an attempt to make them look worse in the eyes of the average athenian many retors and politicians called them barbarians among other things. Macedonians were greeks and no one can deny that. And if anyone has the last say in the matter, that is the macedonians themselves. Not today’s macedonians, but the ancient ones, the ones that wrote, read, and spoke greek.
Nice video but a correction. Alexander the Great was born in ancient Greece on the northern Greek peninsula, which is today, the modern northern Greek state of Macedonia.
"The Former Yugoslav Republic (FYROM) was not Macedonia during Alexanders time and today includes less than 4% of ancient Macedonia within its boundaries. That area of modern FYROM was called Paeonia and the Slavic people who inhabit it are invaders beginning from the 7th century AD
nobody even thinks of Fyrom as having any link to Alexander's Macedonia. Fyrom are ethnic Bulgarians
Even if he was born in modern FYROM, the people there were Greek and spoke greek back then
Bonnie Blue Alesiander
A-le-si-ander
Is-born-like-dream in Albanian has himself claimed to be Illyrian and not Greek. Greek history is falsified and romanticized by a Hamburger who wanted his son Otto to be king of Ancient Greece and created the modern state of Greece who has nothing to do with the ancients. Todays Greeks are Turkic and middle eastern looking
Fisnik Kon Hello troll he spoke fucking Greek his teacher was Greek so please stop spreading propaganda
vlasis apousidis 90% of your 1821 heroes spoke greek also but they are Arvanites/Albanian so go home and learn some history boy.
really?u think skopje are ancient makedones?LeL.....learn better history 1:55-2:00
Λάζαρος Τσουφλίδης Shkup , is the name and its 🇦🇱, like all Greek territory,
Peace ✌🏻
@@klementcuka8320 ...Do you have plenty of car cleaning bussiness in Albania...Or do you do them jobs just as immigrants...
@@Peterkonto tides turn quickly you know, but yeah Albanian workers help your economy. They do the jobs you greeks dont have the balls to do. From tobaccos, oil, basic industry, to high rank politics. If you dont like the Albanian employee's maybe you can get some from Africa so they can fuck your place for good.
@@klementcuka8320 Skopje is greek word and comes from Skopos.
Great work buddy ,kudos!
I wish they would make more movies about these times. I've only seen one or two (e.g. The Man Who Would be King), and that coupled with traces of culture give the whole thing an air of mystery.
I'm very happy you did a video on Greece you should do one on Ireland and its genetics etc? Also do not call fyrom Macedonia Macedonia is Greek it is a region in northern Greece.
Not before the Treaty of Bucharest (1913):
"Greek Territory Gains:
The boundary line separating Greece from Bulgaria was drawn from the crest of Belasica to the mouth of the Mesta (Nestos), on the Aegean Sea. This important territorial concession, which Bulgaria resolutely contested, in compliance with the instructions embraced in the notes which the Russian Empire and Austria-Hungary presented to the conference, increased the area of Greece from 64,790 to 108,610 km2 and its population from 2,660,000 to 4,363,000.[3]
The territory thus annexed included large parts of Epirus and Macedonia, including Thessaloniki. The Greek-Bulgarian border was moved eastwards to beyond Kavala, thus restricting the Aegean seaboard of Bulgaria to an inconsiderable extent of 110 km, with only Dedeagach (modern Alexandroupoli) as a seaport. In addition, Crete was definitively assigned to Greece and was formally taken over on 14 December that year. Within this region was also Florina."
The region was heavily inhabited by Slavic/Bulgarian speaking "Macedonians" (as they call themselves, given their living in the region of Macedonia for centuries) who were forced to speak Greek after Bulgaria ceded the territory.
Nelson3300 Yes but historically and culturally it was Greek and is Greek hence the reason it was taken back. Many pieces of land have exchanged hands in the balkans due to the many different ethnicities. Also you are lying the North of Greece was always populated by Greeks my family is from Macedonia in northern Greece.
What s lot of bull crap when it comes to Indian part of history . It is Indian maths , 😁
Luke ilias northern Greece was populated by Slavs mostly during Ottoman times. Ethnic maps also show this.
Flexxshitt A Yes during ottoman Times not now and in ancient
Times
Was always populated by Greeks
I can't imagine how the world would be without greek influence. Still and always inspires me. Great video. Thanks
roman contribution to world is bigger than green influence...
much nicer I think. less intrigs and lays...
@Truth seeker bullshit...
@@Tonyx.yt. hold your horses boy ,you see History can not change...better to read real history and not the fake one...Anyway Greeks have great sympathy to Italians regardless the Italy invasion of 1940. So do not speak ill about Greeks is not fair...
It'd probably be less gay.
Nice brief, yet informative video summation of a part of history not taught in schools. Thanks
Ancient Macedonia is in what is today Northern Greece 95% and FYRO"M" (South-Whest) 5%.
Check the maps.
Modern "Macedonians" (Skopjians) have nothing in common with the Ancient Macedonians who where Greeks.
They (Modern "Macedonians") just stole the Greek name "Macedonia" at 1945.
@lesandra tribalic
Competely the opposite my friend.
Macedonians spoke Greek, wrote Greek, worshipped the ancient Greek Olympian pantheon from macedonian mountain Olympos, spread Hellenism and established the Hellenistic era not slavobulgarian.
Macedonians participated in Olympics where only Greeks were allowed to
It was Alexander and Macedonians who spread Greeek language and made it the lingua franca of that time.
All the evidence that Macedonians left behind are ONLY Greek.
Macedonians used only Greek words for their names and places.
Macedonian kings like :
Karanos, Koinos, Tyrimmas, Perdikkas, Archelaos, Orestes, Pavsanias, Ptolemaios Aloritis, Argaios ......
Macedonian Olympic winners like :
Archonas of Pella
Antigonos of Ouranopolis Apollodoros, Xanthippos, Damasias of Amphipolis
Lagos, Alketas, Belistiche, ....
Macedonian scholars and philosophers like :
Aristotle, Hermagoras, Crateros ALEXARCHOS
Macedonian calendar with ONLY Greek months:
Apellaiios, moon of December
Loos ΛΩΟΣ moon of July
Hyperberetaios
Hyperberetos Embolimos
.......
Tell us your slav fairytales now. xD
@lesandra tribalic
Ploutarch in "Alexander's parallel lives" writes:
(Translation from the Greek original text)
Alexander was proud being descendant of Achilles ( from his maternal side Olympias-her original name was Polyxeni). Achilles was ancestor of Aiakos dynasty-Upto king Neoptolemos (Olympias' father)
Alexander was also proud being Hercules' descendant from his paternal side (his father king Philip was Karanos' Argead dynasty whose father king Temenos in Argos was direct descendant of Hercules)
Tell me now that Achilles and Hercules were Serbian to make my day.
FYI The same bullshits are said by
Albanians lol
@lesandra tribalic
You haven't answered anything of the facts i wrote to you.
It seems that you don't read what the others write to you.
You know Olympics. Don't you?
Why the Greeks had also OLYMPIC TRUCE (=stop fighting) unless they fought eachother?
Check macedonian town Amphipolis battle 422BC:
Macedonian PERDIKAS with Spartan VRASIDAS
Vs
Athenian General Kleon.
Macedonians and Spartans won
Google:
Olympic Truce
Peloponnesian war
Amphipolis battle
To see Greeks fight eachother
Philip was the first Greek king who managed to unify all Greeks against the common enemy Persians.
There is no written evidence about some lesander karanovic.
There are only ancient inscriptions and texts writing :
ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ
First of all learn all the Macedonian kings :
Karanos, Koinos, Tyrimmas, Perdikkas, Argaios .....
@lesandra tribalic
Alexander ancestors were these Greeks :
His parents Philip and Olympiada
His grandparents :
Amyntas and Evridiki
Neoptolemos and Andromachi
His great grandfather : Perdikkas
Archelaos
Argaios
........
Koinos
Karanos
Temenos (king of Argos)
..........
Heracles
His maternal side:
Olympias (Polyxeni)
His grandparents :
Neoptolemos and Andromachi
Aiakos dynasty
........
Achilleas
The funniest is lisander karanovic
hahahahahahahahaha
You are more ridiculous than fyromians and Albanians ;)
Megas Alexandros was proud being descendant of Achilles and Heracles.
Fullstop. Period xD
@lesandra tribalic
Greek names of Macedonians that slavs can't even spell.
My profile picture is an ancient macedonian 4drachmas coin.
Writting :
"ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΥ" xD
Alexander the Great spread the Greek civilization to his Eastern Greek Empire
Makedonski 🤩🤩🤩🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.....All these icognito bulgarians have names ending with ski a bit like the polish names LOL
His rise came at the end of the Greek civil war, so they'd basically perfected military tactics of individual unit strengths by that time. Instead of all heavy infantry, he used calvary, heavy infantry and skirmishers in the right combo and on the battlefield.
My man, your video has a couple of inaccuracies that would certainly infuriate modern Greeks. I ‘d suggest you double checked your facts here.
which ones? please explain
They were absorbed into the Iranian people who lived around them and became Zoroastrians and Buddhists. Many people in that area have Greek blood to this very day.
alot of greeks settled in punjabi area of india/pakistan and integrated into societies, there are statues of zeus in India clash of two amazing cultures
diego suarez nobody say greek were punjabis
Mustafa Alam Most North-Indians/Pakistanis are actually are dark
+Mustafa Alam Porus lost to Alexander and he went back because his troops were home sick and tired. Also North Indians are pretty dark and some are also Austroloid looking. I've never seen a North Indian that looks like a Greek or an Italian.
+Maeur Do you have any papers to provide proof for your claim?
agree! but u gotta love the brainwashing europeans have done to indians, all these fairy tails just to prove the great indian civilization has european roots
"modern country of Macedonia" that made me laugh soooo much
Greece is part of Macedonia
Genetically very simelar to bulgarian
pay debts Grease
@@Shagthegoat have some class.
@@MrChickenchow actually Macedonia is a part of greece 🤷🏻♀
Hey man,
The temple at 6:21 is not in Inia, not in Pakistan, and not even in Uzbekistan :D It's in Armenia, and it was made not by Greeks, but by Armenian king of 1-st century AD Trdates the 1-st.
Just a fact :D
Interesting
Great video, great channel. Not another 'Wikipedist', but a guy who takes an effort to actually understand the academic argument, and bring us the actual scientific knowledge of the subject while still being entertaining. So sad modern Western Bulgarians or Slavic Macedonians are ashamed of their Slavic origins and make absurd statements about their past.
Keep on doing great and actually educative videos, greetings from Poland!
Very nice presentation with very good research! This is a difficult subject (post-Alexandrian sub-continent). Most simply end their narrative with Alexander losing to an elephant cavalry. Let me recommend a great book on Alexander, "The Envy of the Gods" by John Prevas. The author, along with his academic research, actually traveled the lands that Alexander did, as often as possible using only the same means available to Alexander and his troops. I had opportunity to meet Mr. Prevas and found his stories to be fascinating.
The Greek legacy of Alexander the Great stretched from Egypt to India and Pakistan
Alexander lost the war by Punjabi king poras he was from Punjab nowadays Pakistan.
@Giannis Stathakis how did you know? Remember history was wrote by the europeans
@Giannis Stathakis any proff? And porus defeated alxendader the great
@Giannis Stathakis could a 5 foot 3 Alexander the great beat a 7 foot 5 porus?
@Giannis Stathakis Wikipedia can be edited so stop access yours source to Wikipedia
I'm South India(Tamil). No one Tamil writers will talk about other empirors easily. But lot of script available in tamil, about mayur emperorism on North East India (mouriya perarasu in tamil). That was exists on same time of Alexander arrival. Alexander suffered just with normal west Indians. Cannot think about possiblity of Alexander win, in on other main parts of Indian emperorism.
டேய் தேவிடியா பையா ஏண்டா சூத்து ரொம்ப எரியுது போல 😂
Alexander didn’t go to modern day India this was in Pakistan
Bruh atleast type in English
Great Greek Macedonian Empire
What's that?
Bactria Hellenic better than looser Byzantines, even at 700 AD you almost lost constantinople, but later Muslim expantion changed to Iberia instead of Anatolia, not so long until Seljuq settle from Asia
"One could be forgiven for thinking Greece has minor influence on world culture"
...no?
Macedonia was not located in the modern country of FYROM but in Northern Greece.THAT'S THE REAL MACEDONIA, WHERE THE HISTORICAL CITIES OF PELLA AND VERGINA ARE! Enough of the distortion of history, and the stealing of the history and the dignity of the Greek people!
nixter888 Pella - pela - the name of female horse in Albanian language .
You try to still it but we know the truth
The only language the ancient names of cities and gods have meaning is the Albanian language.
You could steal our letters but you couldn't erase our language
it's The only thing you cannot steal .
Cuz that's what all you are
Thieves and Proud.
Klement Cuka albanians are muslims now.
Kozovo Kosovo Košovo?
@marios gianopoulos Ω
@@istorries7681 Okei, I gues yo ar serbian, and that Љ = Л + Ь and кос is the bird species in serbian. For some reason tho today ther ar more albanians than serbians in Kosovo.
Hi Mason, are you familiar with Anatoly Fomenko's work?
Perfectly imperfect video!
I am a Pakistani Kashmiri with Pakhtun mother. I always thought that my people were native of the Himalayan ranges hence, the lighter skin tone. But this is another possibility. Very informative video! :)
Genetic tests have already been done and no evidence for Greek Y-chromosomes have been found. The Pakhtuns and related peoples have Aryan heritage with a high percentage of the R1a gene haplotype. Additionally, Greeks are a dark/swarthy people, and would have brought darker complexions to the lands of the Aryans they attacked.
@@AK-dd9od you mean Greeks where black
Greeks are southern Europeans of the Mediterranean region. In addition to being darker, Greeks are also comparatively coarse-featured. In contrast, the Aryan peoples of the East are sharper-featured/fine-featured, being mainly dolichocephalic and have thinner, more pointed noses than the more fleshy-nosed, rounder-headed Greeks.
Yep well pakistan was india so ur background were indians
@@camrondirossi3249 The Aryans come from the north, so Indians are more likely descended from Afghans and northern Pakistanis. Genetic studies have shown that Indians have genes from the north mixed with southern Dravidic genes (in successive waves). Even India's name comes from the Indus river, which is Pakistani. And the source of the Indus river is the Hindu Kush ("Caucasus Indicus") mountain region of Afghanistan.
Very soon the Great Greek Empire will be reunited
@@bobancholich7693 We don't care what the heck your saying.
Even if turkey attacks America and Britain will save us.
By the way don't get jealous that your not from a country with a proud history.
Go back to Yogoslavia.
Nah Pakistan won't let that happen and yeah India too lol
The people of North Macedonia are a Slavic people who took that name in the 1900’s. They have no relation to the Ancient Macedonians, a Greek people.
THEY ARE BULGARIANS THEY SPEAK BULGARIANS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ANCIENT MACEDONIANS
You referred to Greece as a “minor country” when actually it’s considered to be a *middle power,* just below a great power. That’s the same level as Germany (according to many people, to some it is a great power.), even though they’re in vastly different scales in both economy and population, Greece is by absolutely no means a “minor country.”
yeah middle power however that's wayy below a great power. Greece is definitely not a minor country and most definitely not a minor country in the Balkans. however there is this image of Greece today that was created in literally a few days after the economic crisis hit almost ten years ago which have turned the name Greece as a brand name for Bankrupt and poor and everything related, and people quote Greece as an example of disaster bad management corruption and so on..
Are Greeks still living off the scraps thrown to them by the E.U?
As far as I have heard (at minute 2.00 of the video) you seem to have been mistaken, the heartland of ancient Macedonia was not connected to the new born state of the Republic of Macedonia. The Slavomacedonians, the inhabitants of this modern republic are geographically partially connected to the land of Macedonia. The region has been divided into three between Bulgaria, Serbia and Greece in 1913. Serbia, which controlled at that time what today is the Republic of Macedonia, gained approximately 39% of the region of Macedonia. 39% makes a little less than half the land called The Republic of Macedonia and the Slavomacedonians are not connected to the ancient Graecomacedonian culture and history.
Im pakistani with relatives from kashmir and punjab, i did my 23andme test and came out 99.1% south asian, 0.4-0.8% broadly southern European. Greek regions come in southern europe so maybe one of my ancestors came with alexander lol. Im fair-ish skinned with light brown eyes but 0.4% european will probably have little to do with that xD.
Mohib Jaffri probably not, my ancestry result didnt show any african lineage. But i did get 0.4% un assigned/ unknown which could be from anywhere. Who knows what ethnicity egyptians had all that time ago.
ali malik
Actually 0.4% can do lots of think
But all genes are not related to phenotype
To being white no need European gene
LoL White Bootlicker spotted
Sagar Sagar lol what?
Sagar Sagar oh nooo :"(
Very good video Masaman! Greetings from Makedonia, Hellas!
It's amazing ...Is it possible to upload a vedio on oldest civilization in india for the better understanding ?
Buddy, macedonia is greek
3:00 The lion on Alexander's helmet.... The royal family of Makedonia claimed to have Heracles (Hercules) as their ancestor. One of the 12 Labours of Hercules was the killing of Nemea lion. After this Hercules wear the lion's skin. Same way Alexander's family has a lion included in their emblems.
This is the reason why majority of Indians have surname as "Singh" means lion in Sanskrit.
Question,Did Greco Baktrians migrate in any recorded numbers through southern Europe and possibly to North Western Europe at some point post AD?
I have seen so many times why panjabis and kashmiri people look different from the rest of the indians.
White skin and different body structure. It means they are from Europe?
Not really, it's more down to diet and overall admixture from some neighbouring culture so while kind of related, they are still far from European. You can think of them as partly related to something distantly related to some Europeans. If that was a little longwinded and confusing, that's the point. It's not clear cut or direct and more in parts than a whole.
They live in the cold areas of the India
Not just that. Even Persians had good built. Takr Afghans for rxample and arabs as well.
Hey Mason, I think video about ancient human species such a neanderthal and denisovan its very interesting. Especially about their heritage in our gene.
@legofreak446
it's quite unfortunate that some people's sense of pride comes from the achievements of others - with whom they are only superficially affiliated (i.e with race)
There is also no evidence Neanderthals were more intelligent/stronger/faster than Homosapiens.
legofreak446 Yet we must acknowledge the fact that they died out because they were inflexible and lacked the ability to adapt to their surroundings faster than Homo Sapiens Sapiens. Strength and Brain size is meaningless if you don't know how to use them to maximum efficiency.
Modern humans survived because of our ability to stick together, assimilate/learn and share a lot of information quickly. We can turn our weaknesses into strength.
legofreak446 Yet we must acknowledge the fact that they died out because they were inflexible and lacked the ability to adapt to their surroundings or situations faster than Homo Sapiens Sapiens. Strength and Brain size is meaningless if you don't know how to use them to effectively.
Modern humans survived because of our ability to stick together, assimilate/learn and share a lot of information quickly. We can turn our weaknesses into strength.
The main reason was probably fertility.
legofreak446 absolute nonsense
There is a modern theory about Alexander's death that seems to make quite a bit more sense than poisoning.
Eyewitnesses stated that his corpse smelled pleasant (this was said about him during his lifetime) and it didn't decay for quite some time, even before mummification. The thought is that he was paralyzed, but very much alive (and possibly conscious) for a few days after he was declared dead. In other words, when his generals began squabbling over his domain, he may have heard this, been aware of it--and powerless to stop it.
Well done a great video and very intresting.
Thank you for the video.
Glad you did this video. I'm an Indian of partial Greek decent, and you taught me things I didn't know about my ancestorial history!
D G haha all lies
@@xyzsing4038 It's not, the guy has done his research. I'm North Indian, and my family have always told me that our ancestors came down from Greece.
@@DG-hb8ob I bet they've alos told you how that makes you more superior, LOL
(North "Indian" myself here)
@@striker91 Indians will be Indians. I don't think I'm superior or inferior to anyone. It's a shame how some people have that mindset. I show everyone the same respect regardless of their race, religion, beliefs
@@striker91 why are you so angry?....he's just sharing something interesting
There is no such thing as ancient Pakistan, Pakistan was founded in 1947, it has no history, therefore is is not ancient.
Quite obviously he's referring to the region, not the political entity
there is no such thing as ancient india. india was founded in 1857 as a british colony. before that the place was a bunch of vultures fighting over the carcass of the the moghal empire
shehryar ashraf With all due respect, "Bharata" was the Rgvedic before your so-called "four-fathers" - Turk, Arab, Persian & Mongols - even discovered their own identity, let alone set foot on this land to create yours. Please don't take much offense though, if you're from this subcontinent, likely that these were your real forefathers too.
Ancient Pakistan was the Indus Valley civilization. While the name is new the land and its people are ancient.
And whats ancient India then?? The region he refers to is ENTIRELY in Pakistan. Not to mention, there was never any kingdom or empire called India. Whats more ridiculous is that the name India comes from Indus and Sindh, both in Pakistan.
Thank you very much. Filled in gaps in my knowledge
Wonderful: photos, maps and research. Thank you.