It's funny reading many comments about Charles jaw, Henry's hair, and why they speak Spanish. For so many years we've been watching British series and people from different countries spoke English in them and nobody was surprised. But now we can watch Spanish series with Spanish actors who speak Spanish, made for Spanish watchers and people get surprised. It's fun for us, Spaniards, to hear these comments and strange, as well. People must get used to Spanish series made in Spanish. For many years we've been watching series about Romans, Italians or French with English dialogues but times are changing...
@@direfranchement Julius Caesar didn't speak English. Why did we hear him speaking English in films and series? The answer makes no sense. In a SPANISH series Henry VIII speaks Spanish. What's the problem in that?
@@avecesar4244 Because Henry VIII didn’t speak Spanish. He didn’t speak Spanish with his own Spanish wife, why would he speak it with Charles V? They most likely would have communicated in Latin.
Charles ended up to marry the most beautiful woman of the time: Isabella of Portugal. She was about his age and he loved her till her premature death in 1539. He never remarried and he kept her picture in his bedroom till his final days.
Yes he was given 5 Golden Rose (not sure what it was called) as Defender of the Roman Catholic Faith given by the Pope to Kings or. Person worthy of such an honor.
@@maku8075 You delusional protestants change God's word, and for that heresy you shall be judged. The Catholic Church is the only true church, for it is the legitimate continuation of St. Peter's legacy. ¡Long live Spain, and the Catholic Europe!
@@DarthRKO-li7qm I think it was a weird engagement in the first place. There was just no way the grown up and already ruling Charles could wait so long to have heirs. It was sure he would break the engagement sooner or later. The writing was on the wall the minute they signed the engagement. Besides, they would have been a very weird couple, due to the geography problems. Charles already ruled in too many territories, when could he visit Mary and be a husband? Once in 2 years for a month or so? It would have never worked.
I know some are surprised but Henry VIII could speak Spanish like he could in fluent Latin and French. Charles V could speak Dutch, French, Spanish, Italian, German, Latin, and most likely more. And one of my favorite Spanish shows. 😊
Huge BS! Nobody believes this anymore, not in the academy anyway. All important historians agree that Charles V couldn't speak most of those languages beyond mumbling, far from being a polyglot or anything of he sort. He had terrible problems with German (both the language itself as well as the pronounciation, his chin and mouth problems most certainly didn't help, here he looks like a model who speaks fluently, but his accent was "lippy" because of his mouth problems). He could only speak limited military-style German and constantly had a translator (which is notable since his aunt Catherine of Aragon who nursed him his whole childhood actually did speak German). When speaking to the German nobility, he ALWAYS used French (his mother tongue languages were French and Flemish). Although many think he learned Spanish quickly (which he did only after the Spanish royal court of nobles made it a condition for his coronation), he only leanred quickly the basics of the language and specific vocabulary, but it took him AGES to fully control it (some say he never did). He was a busy man who fought many wars and was never around, so it was't his entire "fault" either, but the "romantization" of adored historical figures sometimes distorts history. Of Charles they used to say he spoke German with French accent and spoke Spanish with German accent (although, having the Spaniards said that, the "German" accent would have probably been Flemish). So, far from being a polyglot, he was a king who ruled over many territories with different languages, which as their king he was supposed to learn and understand, some he did better than others, others a lot worse. That said, about the show itself, of course it's from a Spanish point of view, a similar French show or British show would show some of the things here very differently.
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There are not a lot of pale redheads in Spain. Katherine of Aragon was actually fair and blonde, yet English-language productions regularly portray her as darkly complected in stereotypical Spanish style (e.g. Irene Papas in "Anne of the Thousand Days"). England does not lack for fair blondes, so that casting oversight is more egregious in my mind, than the non-ginger Henry depicted here. By the way, the guy playing Henry does not look that dark to me and his name, per IMDB, is a Germanic one: Alex Brendemühl.
@@paolaa.calderonsanchez4666 Henry VIII isn't spared of this adaptaional dye-job either. In the movie The Other Boleyn Girl and the tv show The Tudors, Henry is depicted by dark haired actors as well.
Considering the damage Henry did to England, comparable to Mao's Cultural Revolution, it's a great shame the Spanish didn't invade to unseat him and put Mary on the throne. Catherine's honour deserved to be upheld, and the rights of the vast majority of Catholics in England at the time deserved to be protected. But history is full of what-if's like that.
Politics. They could not afford to fight England while the Frenchy antagonized them. Feelings are cheap compared to war and profits esp. on the Royal Family.
The question is, is he supposed to look "savage"? I understand all the "this is a production by Latinos for Latinos", but the side effect is being misled about history.
@what8562 No no I'm sorry. I didn't say "savage af" in regards to the color of his skin, I meant the actor's attitude. Oh shit this whole time people thought I meant it as a comment on race? I meant this portrayal of King Henry is 'Tyrant' like he probably was closer to in this stage as opposed to the old,obese,ruddy cheeked man later in his reign.
Excellent series first class I managed to find the series on the internet now ready for the other series called Isobel you can buy of Amazon but only in Spanish
Charles was a better monarch than Henry. A better man, too, I should think. Henry was flighty in his passions - not least his marriages. Charles married for political reasons, in the fashion of the time. He married his cousin, who he could expect to hold down the fort in Spain while he was on progress through his vast and separated domains. Happily, Charles was devoted to his wife in a way that Henry never was, and he was devastated by her passing; donning black for the rest of his life like Queen Victoria. I think Charles' deprecation of the trappings of imperial glory is accurate, too, as depicted in this scene. Charles never dressed himself fancily, or bedecked himself in glory like his contemporaries, Henry VIII and Francis I of France. He didn't give over to pageantry and the joust like the other two men. Charles was a more serious personality. He had more serious business to worry about, too: namely, the religious dissention in the Empire and the threat of Turkish invasion. Charles fought on the battlefield in more serious campaigns than Henry (though, not Francis). Henry's alleged military victories were much inflated. Ironically, Charles' father, Philip the Fair, was Henry's idol. Charles bore little resemblance to his father, not being fair. Henry was Philip's son in spirit, as the younger man was handsome, vain, and obsessed by the ladies of the court, just like his idol.
True, though only as hilarious as Charles V speaking English in English/American productions 😀 Henry at least could speak Spanish indeed, while Charles (and most other foreign royalty before the 19th century) could not even speak English.
Alas, he did marry another cousin, Isabel of Portugal. Their son married (both) his parents' cousin. But she died so this was a case where endogamia did not matter.
Childhood betrothals were fairly usual for royals in this period. Catalina herself was betrothed to Henry's brother Arthur when she was only 3. They would wait until the children were teenagers before finalizing the match and consummating it, and like here, betrothals were sometimes broken, (and as people have pointed out, she didn't marry Carlos either). Thank you by the way for sharing "Carlos" and "Isabel" - I'd love to watch all of "Isabel", but can't find it with English subtitles. (But I found "Carlos" subtitled online.) So for now, I have your videos. Thank you!
So strange to hear Spanish come from the mouths of Henry and Wolsey..........I'd imagine that when it was just them and Katherine that they would've reverted back to English......
It's the matter of which nation made the show. It's a Spanish tv series so everyone speaks Spanish. Just like Charles V spoke in English to Henry VIII in The Tudors, when in the reality he certainly couldn't speak English. But that's an English show so they speak in English.
Lili1127 Very true, but even so, on the Tudors, characters reverted back and forth with English and other languages like Spanish, French, German, etc. instead of simply speaking English all the time.
@@renanmiranda68 Privately between Henry, Catherine and Wolsey, no they wouldn't have spoken French. Charles V and Henry VIII would've spoken French to each other since it was a language they could mutually understand (French was also the first language of Charles V).
Aye, and Katherine was a strawberry blonde. Very few adaptations of her portray as a blonde/redhead. The tv shows The Six Wives of Henry VIII and The Shadow of the Tower are the most faithful in depicting Katherine of Aragon as having golden red hair.
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El Rey de Inglaterra hablando español para comunicarse con Carlos V y pensar que ahora es el Rey de España que tiene que hablar inglés para comunicarse con Biden.
Yeah, it can sound a bit funny, but it's the same case when the Borgias speak English or the Vikings or the ancient Romans speak English in American and British shows. And here it's basically the same, in this Spanish show everyone speaks Spanish. It's just that we are used to the English ones we don't find it strange or funny anymore. They probably spoke in French in this meeting, because that was the language they all spoke well. Spanish is not entirely impossible either, I read once that Henry VIII spoke some Spanish. Though the funny thing is that at this early time in his reign even Charles spoke Spanish badly 😀 So yeah probably French. In The Tudors they speak in English in this meeting, but Charles V never learned English. Then in the next scene he speaks in Spanish with his aunt when they are alone but I am not sure that happened either because of Charles's difficulties with the Spanish language at this point.
¡Muy buenas las dos escenas! (actuaciones, vestuario, diálogos con el bocabulario de la época, las intrigas políticas colándose entre las emociones ¡todo muy bien logrado!) Lo que no me gustó fue ese Enrique VIIIº... Aunque está infinitamente mejor caracterizado que el de "The Tudors", debieron hacerlo más alto, más pelirrojo y más parecido al verdadero Henry Tudor... ¡y para colmo mostrarlo hablando en un perfecto Castellano con acento español y sin una pizca de acento inglés! Eso me pareció un detalle terrible. Si él fuera presentado hablando Inglés, la Reina Catalina de Aragón hubiera sido una perfecta traductora y la escena hubiera quedado mejor lograda, para mi gusto.
@@miguelalconada8579 Yes. Fortunately I am a native Spanish speaker so the language should not be a problem; however, I live in the US, where the whole series is banned. They don't let people here watch it, so, I'm looking everywhere else, and I can't so far, find it.
@@diegoandrade467 Though the House of Habsburg is famous about inbreeding, that mainly came after the time of this Charles. This particular early Habsburg, Charles I of Spain, was not very inbred. His parents were not closely related at all, his mother Joanna of Castile mostly had Spanish and Iberian ancestors, while Charles's father Philip of Habsburg was Austrian and mostly had Central European ancestors.
@@Lily1127channel It is reported that when Charles was on his way to Zaragoza to be proclaimed King of Aragon, a bold peasant near Calatayud yelled at him: "Majestad, cerrad la boca, que las moscas de esta tierra son insolentes", which translates as "Your Majesty, shut up your mouth, for the flies from this country are insolent". This is true, it's not a urban legend. Such was the prognatism of Charles that he would have his mouth permanently open, he had trouble in eating and talking. He may have not been very inbred, but looked very Habsburg already.
Yes Charles had a large jaw and wore a beard. He spoke German. Henry, Charles and Catherine could have conversed in Latin. The actors do need to look like the person they are impersonating.
No... Charles spoke French because he was educated in the Court of Burgundy... and French was the "official" language spoke in that Court. His father spoke German and French and his mother Spanish and French. I speak Spanish with God, Italian with the female-friends, French with the male-friends, German with soldiers, English with ducks, Hungarian with the horses and Bohemian with the Devil.
Most of shows make him dark haired though even British and American shows, the only show that accurately portrayed him as ginger was one called Henry VIII: the series.
Did he really murdered his half brother Don Juan of Asturias the Admiral who defeated the Mohammedans in the Battle of Lepanto in 1571 which until now the Muslims never recovered from it. St. Pope Pius V pray for us.
@@lucindabunda2106 His death cause seems pretty obvious. There was a pandenic with many victims, Juan was one of them. Of course people with wild imagination are never far behind with these wild conspiracy theories, but they are very rarely true.
@@Lily1127channel thank you. I have great respect for Spain since the first king Recaredo (?) fighting against the Moors to El Cid, King Fernando III to Queen Isabel Catolica, Emperor Charles, Don Juan, King Philip ll. I have books of them. Even one of our Priests was in awe about Spain because most of their existence they are still Catholics.
I think the Spanish here rather represents French, that was the language that probably all of them could speak. But as almost all of the scenes in this series, it was in Spanish, because it is a Spanish series. Just like 'The Tudors' was mostly in English - this scene with the three of them was also in English, even though Charles V certainly spoke no English.
Juaan Mor No todos tienen la oportunidad para aprender este idioma, o idiomas. Yo lo amo pero me costó mucho aprenderlo, tuve que hacer mucho extra trabajo para tener el dinero suficiente para las clases espanoles en la universidad. Mejor? Me encanta mucho, pero no podría decir que este o un otro es el mejor. Hay muchas idiomas bonitas y buenos.
Lo que desapruebo es que un angloparlante desdeñe que un inglés hable español en una serie de televisión, cuando el mundo de Hollywood está lleno de estas cosas con el idioma inglés. Pero como soy Hispano e hispanista, siempre prefiero mi idioma por sobre el francés, inglés e italiano. Y como lingüista lo avalo. Suerte
Ugh... Charles V of Holy Roman Empire (Charles I of Spain) was Spaniard - son of Joana I of Spain (Juana La Loca - which was daughter of Isabel of Castile and Ferdinand II of Aragon). He was Spaniard. If in your History class your professor never told that, so he's wrong.
@@carlosmarcial6201 he didn't even speak Spanish until he learned it later in life. He inherited Spain he wasnt technically Spanish. He was born in Flanders. His only Spanish heritage was from his mother who was only half Spanish. He's quarter Spanish at most. He was mixbag of a heaps of nationalities but he was the Holy Roman Emperor so ultimately he was a Habsburg which is an Austrian house.
@@theidiotsarewinning2868 Pero el era español. El príncipe de Edimburgo era un príncipe griego con sangre alemana.. Esto es lo normal entre la Realeza.
¿Enrique VIII moreno y hablando en español? No solo la producción de la serie es una risa, ni siquiera se molestaron en tener cierto rigor histórico. Al igual que hicieron con la serie de Isabel. En España estamos muy alejados de hacer series históricas decentes. De momento solo se salva La Peste de Moviestar.
??? Yo he visto muchas series históricos de muchos paises y yo puedo decirte que las series Isabel y Carlos son unas de las más precisas históricamente. Mucho más precisas que las otras series más populares que The Tudors, Vikings, Reign, The Last Kingdom, Rome, The Borgias, Versailles, The White Queen, Catherine the Great, Magnificent Century, etc. Son casi tan precisas como Victoria y The Crown. Y porque no hablaría español Enrique y todos los personajes en la serie? Cuando un país hace una serie, todos los personajes hablan en la lengua del país. Los Vikingos hablan en inglés, Carlos V habla mucho en inglés en The Tudors, todos de Italia hablan in inglés en Los Médici, Rome, Borgias. En series en inglés, todos entienden por que los personajes hablan casi sólo en inglés. Por qué no es evidente en una serie de España? No entiendo este problema con la lengua española.
@@Lily1127channel Yo no opino así. Las producciones de TVE son la risa, y las cadenas privadas no lo han hecho mucho mejor... Hispania? xD En Isabel nos vendieron una monarca buena y bondadosa, y su unión con Fernando como un matrimonio enamorado. Nada mas lejos de la realidad, se vieron lo justo y necesario para tener descendencia y ella era una fanática religiosa. Enrique era pelirrojo y 5 años más joven que Catalina, puede parecer poco pero en esa época se notaba bastante más la diferencia de edad. Y Carlos apenas hablaba español cuando llegó a España. Yo no digo que tengan que hablar cada uno en su idioma, pero al menos podrían conservar un mínimo de acento. En cuanto a las series europeas que nombras, muchas tienen fallos y errores, pero por lo general son más fieles a la historia (Menos Reign que me parece un despropósito)
@@artemisasanz7448 Hm... no lo sé. Yo no soy de Espana, así no es la razón porque digo que estas dos series son buenas (no he visto otras series historicas de Espana). Yo soy un gran fan de la historia, así siempre prefiero series fieles a la historia. Pero qué series historicas puedes decir que son más fieles a la historia?? Victoria, The Crown, y...?? Lo que dices del caracter de Isabel puede ser correcto pero en la serie también es muy religiosa, también tiene problemas matrimoniales con Fernando, y etc.. E Isabel era una monarca muy exitosa en la historia, como en la serie. Y el amor en el matrimonio... es sólo una cosa que hacen todas las producciones. Tienen que tener una gran amor en el centro de la historia. Todas las series hacen esto. Incluso Victoria (no sabemos si Albert sí era enamorado o no), Los Tudor, todas. Es marketing. Pero también no sabemos si el amor de Isabel y Fernando que la serie muestra no era realidad. Es la edad media con muchas cosas que no sabemos. Puede ser que sí, puede ser que no. Sus cartas muestran que se respetaban y admiraban mucho. Al menos el amor de Carlos e Isabel es toda la realidad. Creo que Catalina parece más vieja que Enrique. Y el pelo de Enrique... Producciones inglesas casi nunca pueden mostrarlo correctamente en rojo. No creo que es un error muy grande aquí. Al menos su forma de pelo y barba es fiel. Y su vestido también (no como en Los Tudor). Me gusta mucho en la serie que las ropas son muy fieles a la época. Eso no vemos casi nunca, las directores de series históricas siempre intentar a complacer el público moderno con ropas muy modernas.
@@Lily1127channel Es evidente que no podemos conocer a ciencia cierta lo que pasó entonces. Las series y películas en mi opinión no deben cambiar los echos que están probados, luego existen muchas teorías sobre como se llevaron a cabo ciertos acontecimientos, estudiadas por historiadores de un bando y de otro. Los Tudor, en mi opinión es bastante fiel salvo algunos aspectos, como la apariencia de Enrique y Catalina (la cual representan monera, cuando era rubia como su madre)
Los Tudor? Más fiel a historia? Hm, entonces no estamos de la misma opinión. Los errores históricos en Los Tudor me parecen mucho más grandes porque son más importantes históricamente. Porque está lleno de errores en los eventos y acontecimientos históricos, como guerras, conflictos, alianzas, matrimonios. La cronológía de los eventos históricos está totalmente mezclado en muchos casos. También las personajes. La historia de María/Margarita Tudor (mezcladas en la serie en una forma bastante absurda) es muy falsa. La muerte de Wolsey también, por ejemplo. Esos me parecen problemas más grandes en una serie histórica porque esos cambian la historia y el curso de la historia y enseña cosas falsas. Un poco más amor y más hermosas personas y vistas no cambian la historia tanto y por eso yo los perdono más fácil. Y las apariencias en Los Tudor también me parecen muy lejos de la realidad, muy modernas. Los vestidos son como ropas de la edad Elizabethana de una forma muy sexualizada y modernizada, los peinados y las joyas (las muchísimas tiaras muy lujosas y modernas) también. El caracter de Enrique es también falso en muchos aspectos. Por ejemplo, sus muchas amantes en la serie no eran tantas en la realidad. Y podría mencionar muchas otras cosas.
"History" should accord with Etymology. The only King that matters a damn is the King of Jerusalem. All Kings of Western Europe claim descent from The Christian Kings of Jerusalem during the Middle Ages. The First Christian man to be offered the Kingship of Jerusalem by a Pope ( Pope Urban II) was Duke Godfrey of Bouillon circa 1095 A.D. The surname Godfrey is an important name in Christendom, if you know Christian history. All Kings of Europe are related to each other. All Kings of Western Europe fought alongside each other during the First Crusade called by Pope Urban II. Duke Godfrey of Bouillon (a Frenchman) led Western Europe in the First Crusade to liberate Jerusalem from Arab Conquerors. Godfrey saved Christianity from Arab Conquerors seeking to impose Islam on Europe in the 11th century. Godfrey is not a surname found among White men in Europe (today.)---------Source: www.NordicNames.de. NordicNames is a website that presents the origin of European names. Search "Godfrey" on NordicNames.com. It is a surname found in the English-speaking Caribbean Sea in the Americas. The surname Godfrey is found in the small English-speaking island of Jamaica among very, very Dark skin men with flat noses. Therefore, "History" conflicts with Etymology. "History" can change with conquerors. Etymology can not change with conquerors.
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Charles was famous for saying “I speak Spanish to God, Italian to women, French to men, and German to my horse.” 😂😂
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Says 110 to me.
It's funny reading many comments about Charles jaw, Henry's hair, and why they speak Spanish. For so many years we've been watching British series and people from different countries spoke English in them and nobody was surprised. But now we can watch Spanish series with Spanish actors who speak Spanish, made for Spanish watchers and people get surprised. It's fun for us, Spaniards, to hear these comments and strange, as well. People must get used to Spanish series made in Spanish. For many years we've been watching series about Romans, Italians or French with English dialogues but times are changing...
I'm sure it is. I say this with absolute sincerity 😍
Yo creo que cada personaje debería hablar el idioma que debería hablar su personaje, amenos que sea una lengua muerta por ejemplo el latin
Henry VIII didn’t speak Spanish. They can do it in English or they can do it in Latin, it wasn’t in Spanish.
@@direfranchement Julius Caesar didn't speak English. Why did we hear him speaking English in films and series? The answer makes no sense. In a SPANISH series Henry VIII speaks Spanish. What's the problem in that?
@@avecesar4244 Because Henry VIII didn’t speak Spanish. He didn’t speak Spanish with his own Spanish wife, why would he speak it with Charles V? They most likely would have communicated in Latin.
its sweet because I think, Katherine can see glimpses of her sister Joanna and feelings arise.
Charles ended up to marry the most beautiful woman of the time: Isabella of Portugal.
She was about his age and he loved her till her premature death in 1539.
He never remarried and he kept her picture in his bedroom till his final days.
That was one of the truest royal loves in history, no doubt.
dude he had a proposal for his son to marry mary tudor.
@Kavya Reddy True
Diego Andrade His son DID marry Mary Tudor.
Isabella of Portugal was indeed very beautiful. According to her contemporaries, and also according to her portraits.
Carlos said. I speak Italian to anbassadors, French to women, German to my horse, and Spanish to God. Yes he spoke all those languages..
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Spanish.
His Latin was notoriously poor.
Flemish too.
Did he really speak Spanish? Shocking
That's from Voltaire and that's a slander against Charles V!
I also spoke dutch
Ah, back when King Henry VIII was still a devout Catholic.
Yes he was given 5 Golden Rose (not sure what it was called) as Defender of the Roman Catholic Faith given by the Pope to Kings or. Person worthy of such an honor.
And thinner 🍗🍗🍗
Back when he was a pagan worshipper
@@lucindabunda2106 we only defend the kingdom of God not some man made church in Rome filled with satanic activities
@@maku8075 You delusional protestants change God's word, and for that heresy you shall be judged. The Catholic Church is the only true church, for it is the legitimate continuation of St. Peter's legacy. ¡Long live Spain, and the Catholic Europe!
The outfits looks really great, like they took it right out of the paintings.
Indeed, most costumes in this series were inspired by paintings
@@Lily1127channel Hello, Lily1127 how do you feel about Charles dumping Mary.
@@DarthRKO-li7qm I think it was a weird engagement in the first place. There was just no way the grown up and already ruling Charles could wait so long to have heirs. It was sure he would break the engagement sooner or later. The writing was on the wall the minute they signed the engagement.
Besides, they would have been a very weird couple, due to the geography problems. Charles already ruled in too many territories, when could he visit Mary and be a husband? Once in 2 years for a month or so? It would have never worked.
I remember watching the entire series 2 years ago. This is one of my favorites, first would be the drama series, Isabel
Im glad you like this spanish series
Me encanta eso "la familia es el lazo, la política el precio"
I know some are surprised but Henry VIII could speak Spanish like he could in fluent Latin and French. Charles V could speak Dutch, French, Spanish, Italian, German, Latin, and most likely more.
And one of my favorite Spanish shows. 😊
Huge BS! Nobody believes this anymore, not in the academy anyway. All important historians agree that Charles V couldn't speak most of those languages beyond mumbling, far from being a polyglot or anything of he sort. He had terrible problems with German (both the language itself as well as the pronounciation, his chin and mouth problems most certainly didn't help, here he looks like a model who speaks fluently, but his accent was "lippy" because of his mouth problems). He could only speak limited military-style German and constantly had a translator (which is notable since his aunt Catherine of Aragon who nursed him his whole childhood actually did speak German). When speaking to the German nobility, he ALWAYS used French (his mother tongue languages were French and Flemish). Although many think he learned Spanish quickly (which he did only after the Spanish royal court of nobles made it a condition for his coronation), he only leanred quickly the basics of the language and specific vocabulary, but it took him AGES to fully control it (some say he never did). He was a busy man who fought many wars and was never around, so it was't his entire "fault" either, but the "romantization" of adored historical figures sometimes distorts history. Of Charles they used to say he spoke German with French accent and spoke Spanish with German accent (although, having the Spaniards said that, the "German" accent would have probably been Flemish). So, far from being a polyglot, he was a king who ruled over many territories with different languages, which as their king he was supposed to learn and understand, some he did better than others, others a lot worse. That said, about the show itself, of course it's from a Spanish point of view, a similar French show or British show would show some of the things here very differently.
Poor Catherine :(.
Thanks so much for the serie ! Hope see more episodes
Makes me want to play ck2 for hours and establish a stronk composite monarchy.
@THIS PENCER there's eu4 for that
"La familia es el lazo, la política: el precio".
Charles is a bit tad more handsome here than when I met him in real life.
Well... You look like a drunk football fan.
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Why is Henry portrayed as a dark Spaniard, when he was in actuality a 6‘2” ginger giant?
There are not a lot of pale redheads in Spain. Katherine of Aragon was actually fair and blonde, yet English-language productions regularly portray her as darkly complected in stereotypical Spanish style (e.g. Irene Papas in "Anne of the Thousand Days"). England does not lack for fair blondes, so that casting oversight is more egregious in my mind, than the non-ginger Henry depicted here. By the way, the guy playing Henry does not look that dark to me and his name, per IMDB, is a Germanic one: Alex Brendemühl.
@@renshiwu305 i think Dark as in Dark haired
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Henry VIII isn't spared of this adaptaional dye-job either. In the movie The Other Boleyn Girl and the tv show The Tudors, Henry is depicted by dark haired actors as well.
@@Jakegothicsnake true
Alex Brendemühl is dark??? Google up
Considering the damage Henry did to England, comparable to Mao's Cultural Revolution, it's a great shame the Spanish didn't invade to unseat him and put Mary on the throne. Catherine's honour deserved to be upheld, and the rights of the vast majority of Catholics in England at the time deserved to be protected. But history is full of what-if's like that.
great shame........... all those heritics not burned at the stake ...🤦♀️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 twat
Politics. They could not afford to fight England while the Frenchy antagonized them. Feelings are cheap compared to war and profits esp. on the Royal Family.
Armada
As a descendant of English Protestants from the 1500s on both sides of my family, I'll have to respectfully disagree.
What about the Spanish Inquisition established by Catherine's parents?
Catherine of Aragon was the *true* Queen and Henry's truest love.
The question is, is he supposed to look "savage"? I understand all the "this is a production by Latinos for Latinos", but the side effect is being misled about history.
@what8562 No no I'm sorry. I didn't say "savage af" in regards to the color of his skin, I meant the actor's attitude. Oh shit this whole time people thought I meant it as a comment on race? I meant this portrayal of King Henry is 'Tyrant' like he probably was closer to in this stage as opposed to the old,obese,ruddy cheeked man later in his reign.
MARY, WE'RE ALL INBRED
MOMMY SAYS IT’S A STRONG CHIN FOR A STRONG BOY!
The first Carlos Danger..
Most interesting.
Excellent series first class I managed to find the series on the internet now ready for the other series called Isobel you can buy of Amazon but only in Spanish
Charles was a better monarch than Henry. A better man, too, I should think. Henry was flighty in his passions - not least his marriages. Charles married for political reasons, in the fashion of the time. He married his cousin, who he could expect to hold down the fort in Spain while he was on progress through his vast and separated domains. Happily, Charles was devoted to his wife in a way that Henry never was, and he was devastated by her passing; donning black for the rest of his life like Queen Victoria. I think Charles' deprecation of the trappings of imperial glory is accurate, too, as depicted in this scene. Charles never dressed himself fancily, or bedecked himself in glory like his contemporaries, Henry VIII and Francis I of France. He didn't give over to pageantry and the joust like the other two men. Charles was a more serious personality. He had more serious business to worry about, too: namely, the religious dissention in the Empire and the threat of Turkish invasion. Charles fought on the battlefield in more serious campaigns than Henry (though, not Francis). Henry's alleged military victories were much inflated. Ironically, Charles' father, Philip the Fair, was Henry's idol. Charles bore little resemblance to his father, not being fair. Henry was Philip's son in spirit, as the younger man was handsome, vain, and obsessed by the ladies of the court, just like his idol.
Queen Catherine was a testarossa. Those English gables, no one makes them correctly.
CATALINA DE ARAGÓN Y NUESTRO EMPERADOR CARLOS I DE LA CASA DE AUSTRIA
Hilarious to see Henry speaking Spanish.
True, though only as hilarious as Charles V speaking English in English/American productions 😀 Henry at least could speak Spanish indeed, while Charles (and most other foreign royalty before the 19th century) could not even speak English.
Charles was famous for saying, “I speak Spanish to God, Italian to women, French to men, and German to my horse.” 😂😂😂
@@Lily1127channel Hey, Lili1127 I have A question: Do you think A show set in A world where Mary I and Philip II had A son or Daughter would work ?
@@Lily1127channelBoth is quite funny.
The hilarious part is that the viewers are too lazy to read subtitles
Henry VIII was able to speak Spanish as well as French and Latin. Many Monarchs are able to which isn't unusual.
Hello what is this actress name who played queen Katherine of Aragon . I see her in some other movie …, plz thanks
Melida Molina
He's marrying his cousin? Who's just a baby?
Charles didn't marry Mary Tudor eventually.
@@Lily1127channel But his son Philip(Philip II of Spain) did marry Mary Tudor.
Yes, this particular TV series also includes that event.
Alas, he did marry another cousin, Isabel of Portugal. Their son married (both) his parents' cousin. But she died so this was a case where endogamia did not matter.
Childhood betrothals were fairly usual for royals in this period. Catalina herself was betrothed to Henry's brother Arthur when she was only 3. They would wait until the children were teenagers before finalizing the match and consummating it, and like here, betrothals were sometimes broken, (and as people have pointed out, she didn't marry Carlos either). Thank you by the way for sharing "Carlos" and "Isabel" - I'd love to watch all of "Isabel", but can't find it with English subtitles. (But I found "Carlos" subtitled online.) So for now, I have your videos. Thank you!
So strange to hear Spanish come from the mouths of Henry and Wolsey..........I'd imagine that when it was just them and Katherine that they would've reverted back to English......
It's the matter of which nation made the show. It's a Spanish tv series so everyone speaks Spanish. Just like Charles V spoke in English to Henry VIII in The Tudors, when in the reality he certainly couldn't speak English. But that's an English show so they speak in English.
Lili1127 Very true, but even so, on the Tudors, characters reverted back and forth with English and other languages like Spanish, French, German, etc. instead of simply speaking English all the time.
To discuss affairs of great importance Henry spoke to Cardinal Wolsey.....always in Latin. English wasn't considered suitable.
The actually all spoke French
@@renanmiranda68 Privately between Henry, Catherine and Wolsey, no they wouldn't have spoken French. Charles V and Henry VIII would've spoken French to each other since it was a language they could mutually understand (French was also the first language of Charles V).
No clue where they filmed these scenes but those castles and palaces are nowhere NEAR the grandiose, glamor, and decadence of English Castles has
Wasn’t Henry a ginger?
Aye, and Katherine was a strawberry blonde. Very few adaptations of her portray as a blonde/redhead. The tv shows The Six Wives of Henry VIII and The Shadow of the Tower are the most faithful in depicting Katherine of Aragon as having golden red hair.
I'll not eat a ginger anymore
What’s the name of this show??
Carlos, rey emperador
Please please please post videos of Mary Tudor and Philip from later in this series!!
Every scene with them is posted on my channel, search for 'Mary Tudor' 😊
Boys we found the Crimson Chin.
Wow as a Catholic I love this ,the emperor was the restrainer many believe ...you notice the spirit of lawlessness got stronger when he was taken out the way...Karl of Austria blessed Karl was the last..rep of the holy Roman empire when he fell Hitler and the Nazis started...you see this pattern through history...it's real...and it's going to culminate in Armageddon....the great monarch and great pope(the spiritual and temporal sword the law of the church and state under God allegorically Moses and Elija...wich will really activate in the last days....u tube contrite heart Chanel and I miss christindom....and learn
What’s the name of this movie ?
Carlos, rey emperador. It's a Spanish TV series.
Charles & Henri= The master and his poodle
Why French people are so rude? ;(.
But Francis I of France was a Chicken Earthworm, who prefered to ally with Turks (Ottomans)... A traitor to Christianity.
What have they done to the ginger unit?
in a dover castle they met
Is it just me but doesnt Henry looks old here isnt he supposed to be like early thirties
Wher's the chin?
What movie is this scene from?
Carlos, rey emperador
It is a Spanish tv series
@@Lily1127channel This show is better the Tudors.
@@savagedarksider5934 I think so, too.
@@Lily1127channel My yorkie dog said hi.
*4 years old Bloody Mary*
Just because she killed hundreds of people. But Elizabeth and Henry killed thousands.
@@carlosmarcial6201 Mary of Scotland was killed by the murderous illegitimate daughter of the Apostate Henry viii. Both died a horrible death!!!
El Rey de Inglaterra hablando español para comunicarse con Carlos V y pensar que ahora es el Rey de España que tiene que hablar inglés para comunicarse con Biden.
It's adorable that Spaniards keep pet kings.
If he can't speak anything but Spanish, he can use a translator.
Watching Henry speak fluent spanish is kind of funny. Wouldn't they have been speaking french or latin?
Yeah, it can sound a bit funny, but it's the same case when the Borgias speak English or the Vikings or the ancient Romans speak English in American and British shows. And here it's basically the same, in this Spanish show everyone speaks Spanish. It's just that we are used to the English ones we don't find it strange or funny anymore.
They probably spoke in French in this meeting, because that was the language they all spoke well. Spanish is not entirely impossible either, I read once that Henry VIII spoke some Spanish. Though the funny thing is that at this early time in his reign even Charles spoke Spanish badly 😀 So yeah probably French.
In The Tudors they speak in English in this meeting, but Charles V never learned English. Then in the next scene he speaks in Spanish with his aunt when they are alone but I am not sure that happened either because of Charles's difficulties with the Spanish language at this point.
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You don´t know what you´re writing. None of them was Moor.
Henry the viii?!?!?!
Yup.
¡Muy buenas las dos escenas! (actuaciones, vestuario, diálogos con el bocabulario de la época, las intrigas políticas colándose entre las emociones ¡todo muy bien logrado!) Lo que no me gustó fue ese Enrique VIIIº... Aunque está infinitamente mejor caracterizado que el de "The Tudors", debieron hacerlo más alto, más pelirrojo y más parecido al verdadero Henry Tudor... ¡y para colmo mostrarlo hablando en un perfecto Castellano con acento español y sin una pizca de acento inglés! Eso me pareció un detalle terrible. Si él fuera presentado hablando Inglés, la Reina Catalina de Aragón hubiera sido una perfecta traductora y la escena hubiera quedado mejor lograda, para mi gusto.
Where can I get the full chapters? I don't find them anywhere on the internet.
Octagon Towers you can find the full chapters in “rtve a la carta” if you search “Carlos, Rey emperador” but they are in Spanish
@@miguelalconada8579 Yes. Fortunately I am a native Spanish speaker so the language should not be a problem; however, I live in the US, where the whole series is banned. They don't let people here watch it, so, I'm looking everywhere else, and I can't so far, find it.
Why doesn’t he have a funny chin
353535336373373 he’s a Habsburg,he’s more inbred than a sandwhich
@@diegoandrade467 Though the House of Habsburg is famous about inbreeding, that mainly came after the time of this Charles.
This particular early Habsburg, Charles I of Spain, was not very inbred. His parents were not closely related at all, his mother Joanna of Castile mostly had Spanish and Iberian ancestors, while Charles's father Philip of Habsburg was Austrian and mostly had Central European ancestors.
@@Lily1127channel It is reported that when Charles was on his way to Zaragoza to be proclaimed King of Aragon, a bold peasant near Calatayud yelled at him: "Majestad, cerrad la boca, que las moscas de esta tierra son insolentes", which translates as "Your Majesty, shut up your mouth, for the flies from this country are insolent". This is true, it's not a urban legend. Such was the prognatism of Charles that he would have his mouth permanently open, he had trouble in eating and talking. He may have not been very inbred, but looked very Habsburg already.
@@arnauuu1 Yes, he had a habsburg chin, everyone knows that
@@Lily1127channel it wasn't the chin it was the jaw
Yes Charles had a large jaw and wore a beard. He spoke German. Henry, Charles and Catherine could have conversed in Latin. The actors do need to look like the person they are impersonating.
No... Charles spoke French because he was educated in the Court of Burgundy... and French was the "official" language spoke in that Court. His father spoke German and French and his mother Spanish and French.
I speak Spanish with God, Italian with the female-friends, French with the male-friends, German with soldiers, English with ducks, Hungarian with the horses and Bohemian with the Devil.
Henry was a red
ufous head.
Most of shows make him dark haired though even British and American shows, the only show that accurately portrayed him as ginger was one called Henry VIII: the series.
@@kensebego199 It depends - on Henry VIII's portrays he appears with black hair; usually reddish hair turns black once they get old.
Did he really murdered his half brother Don Juan of Asturias the Admiral who defeated the Mohammedans in the Battle of Lepanto in 1571 which until now the Muslims never recovered from it.
St. Pope Pius V pray for us.
What do you mean who murdered Juan? No one murdered him, he died a completely natural death. Fever, very common cause of death back then.
@@Lily1127channel I read a book about it I forgot the title of the book.
@@lucindabunda2106 His death cause seems pretty obvious. There was a pandenic with many victims, Juan was one of them.
Of course people with wild imagination are never far behind with these wild conspiracy theories, but they are very rarely true.
@@Lily1127channel thank you. I have great respect for Spain since the first king Recaredo (?) fighting against the Moors to El Cid, King Fernando III to Queen Isabel Catolica, Emperor Charles, Don Juan, King Philip ll. I have books of them. Even one of our Priests was in awe about Spain because most of their existence they are still Catholics.
@@lucindabunda2106 The one who fought against the Moors wasn't Recaredo, but Rodrigo, the last Visigothic King of Spain.
Why English are not speaking English?
Because it is a Spanish show and everyone speaks Spanish in it, regardless nationality.
@@Lily1127channel wished they kept more natural
Don't all people talk in English in British and American historical productions, regardless the characters' nationalities??
@@Lily1127channel They do and it sucks
Well only a few shows actually hire actors who speak their respective native language but not many shows are prepared for that kind of effort.
y la deformidad en la mandíbula? #NoMiCarlosV
Y dónde vas a encontrar a un actor con una mandíbula de los Habsburgo? 😄
Normalmente solo personas hermosas logran tener una carrera de actor.
El actor que interpreta a Enrique VIII, es pésimo además no se parece en nada.
Henry VIII spoke Spanish ?!?! Seriously ?
I think the Spanish here rather represents French, that was the language that probably all of them could speak. But as almost all of the scenes in this series, it was in Spanish, because it is a Spanish series. Just like 'The Tudors' was mostly in English - this scene with the three of them was also in English, even though Charles V certainly spoke no English.
I don't think Henry would learn Spanish because of Catherin's Spanish origins. I think it was only the wife who had to adjust.
JODETE, APRENDE EL MEJOR IDIOMA DEL MUNDO, EL ESPAÑOL
Juaan Mor No todos tienen la oportunidad para aprender este idioma, o idiomas. Yo lo amo pero me costó mucho aprenderlo, tuve que hacer mucho extra trabajo para tener el dinero suficiente para las clases espanoles en la universidad.
Mejor? Me encanta mucho, pero no podría decir que este o un otro es el mejor. Hay muchas idiomas bonitas y buenos.
Lo que desapruebo es que un angloparlante desdeñe que un inglés hable español en una serie de televisión, cuando el mundo de Hollywood está lleno de estas cosas con el idioma inglés. Pero como soy Hispano e hispanista, siempre prefiero mi idioma por sobre el francés, inglés e italiano. Y como lingüista lo avalo. Suerte
Charles the 5th was not Spanish. He had a silly looking chin and a Henry was a ginger.
The idiots are Winning : it's a freakin show ya goob
Ugh... Charles V of Holy Roman Empire (Charles I of Spain) was Spaniard - son of Joana I of Spain (Juana La Loca - which was daughter of Isabel of Castile and Ferdinand II of Aragon). He was Spaniard. If in your History class your professor never told that, so he's wrong.
He was. Did you study history?
@@carlosmarcial6201 he didn't even speak Spanish until he learned it later in life. He inherited Spain he wasnt technically Spanish. He was born in Flanders. His only Spanish heritage was from his mother who was only half Spanish. He's quarter Spanish at most. He was mixbag of a heaps of nationalities but he was the Holy Roman Emperor so ultimately he was a Habsburg which is an Austrian house.
@@theidiotsarewinning2868 Pero el era español. El príncipe de Edimburgo era un príncipe griego con sangre alemana.. Esto es lo normal entre la Realeza.
The meeting never happened.
It did.
www.google.com/amp/s/tudorsandotherhistories.wordpress.com/2017/06/07/charles-vs-visit-to-england-1522-part-i/amp/
¿Enrique VIII moreno y hablando en español? No solo la producción de la serie es una risa, ni siquiera se molestaron en tener cierto rigor histórico. Al igual que hicieron con la serie de Isabel.
En España estamos muy alejados de hacer series históricas decentes. De momento solo se salva La Peste de Moviestar.
??? Yo he visto muchas series históricos de muchos paises y yo puedo decirte que las series Isabel y Carlos son unas de las más precisas históricamente. Mucho más precisas que las otras series más populares que The Tudors, Vikings, Reign, The Last Kingdom, Rome, The Borgias, Versailles, The White Queen, Catherine the Great, Magnificent Century, etc. Son casi tan precisas como Victoria y The Crown.
Y porque no hablaría español Enrique y todos los personajes en la serie? Cuando un país hace una serie, todos los personajes hablan en la lengua del país. Los Vikingos hablan en inglés, Carlos V habla mucho en inglés en The Tudors, todos de Italia hablan in inglés en Los Médici, Rome, Borgias. En series en inglés, todos entienden por que los personajes hablan casi sólo en inglés. Por qué no es evidente en una serie de España? No entiendo este problema con la lengua española.
@@Lily1127channel Yo no opino así. Las producciones de TVE son la risa, y las cadenas privadas no lo han hecho mucho mejor... Hispania? xD
En Isabel nos vendieron una monarca buena y bondadosa, y su unión con Fernando como un matrimonio enamorado. Nada mas lejos de la realidad, se vieron lo justo y necesario para tener descendencia y ella era una fanática religiosa.
Enrique era pelirrojo y 5 años más joven que Catalina, puede parecer poco pero en esa época se notaba bastante más la diferencia de edad.
Y Carlos apenas hablaba español cuando llegó a España.
Yo no digo que tengan que hablar cada uno en su idioma, pero al menos podrían conservar un mínimo de acento.
En cuanto a las series europeas que nombras, muchas tienen fallos y errores, pero por lo general son más fieles a la historia (Menos Reign que me parece un despropósito)
@@artemisasanz7448 Hm... no lo sé. Yo no soy de Espana, así no es la razón porque digo que estas dos series son buenas (no he visto otras series historicas de Espana). Yo soy un gran fan de la historia, así siempre prefiero series fieles a la historia. Pero qué series historicas puedes decir que son más fieles a la historia?? Victoria, The Crown, y...??
Lo que dices del caracter de Isabel puede ser correcto pero en la serie también es muy religiosa, también tiene problemas matrimoniales con Fernando, y etc.. E Isabel era una monarca muy exitosa en la historia, como en la serie. Y el amor en el matrimonio... es sólo una cosa que hacen todas las producciones. Tienen que tener una gran amor en el centro de la historia. Todas las series hacen esto. Incluso Victoria (no sabemos si Albert sí era enamorado o no), Los Tudor, todas. Es marketing. Pero también no sabemos si el amor de Isabel y Fernando que la serie muestra no era realidad. Es la edad media con muchas cosas que no sabemos. Puede ser que sí, puede ser que no. Sus cartas muestran que se respetaban y admiraban mucho.
Al menos el amor de Carlos e Isabel es toda la realidad.
Creo que Catalina parece más vieja que Enrique. Y el pelo de Enrique... Producciones inglesas casi nunca pueden mostrarlo correctamente en rojo. No creo que es un error muy grande aquí. Al menos su forma de pelo y barba es fiel. Y su vestido también (no como en Los Tudor).
Me gusta mucho en la serie que las ropas son muy fieles a la época. Eso no vemos casi nunca, las directores de series históricas siempre intentar a complacer el público moderno con ropas muy modernas.
@@Lily1127channel Es evidente que no podemos conocer a ciencia cierta lo que pasó entonces.
Las series y películas en mi opinión no deben cambiar los echos que están probados, luego existen muchas teorías sobre como se llevaron a cabo ciertos acontecimientos, estudiadas por historiadores de un bando y de otro.
Los Tudor, en mi opinión es bastante fiel salvo algunos aspectos, como la apariencia de Enrique y Catalina (la cual representan monera, cuando era rubia como su madre)
Los Tudor? Más fiel a historia? Hm, entonces no estamos de la misma opinión.
Los errores históricos en Los Tudor me parecen mucho más grandes porque son más importantes históricamente. Porque está lleno de errores en los eventos y acontecimientos históricos, como guerras, conflictos, alianzas, matrimonios. La cronológía de los eventos históricos está totalmente mezclado en muchos casos. También las personajes. La historia de María/Margarita Tudor (mezcladas en la serie en una forma bastante absurda) es muy falsa. La muerte de Wolsey también, por ejemplo. Esos me parecen problemas más grandes en una serie histórica porque esos cambian la historia y el curso de la historia y enseña cosas falsas. Un poco más amor y más hermosas personas y vistas no cambian la historia tanto y por eso yo los perdono más fácil.
Y las apariencias en Los Tudor también me parecen muy lejos de la realidad, muy modernas. Los vestidos son como ropas de la edad Elizabethana de una forma muy sexualizada y modernizada, los peinados y las joyas (las muchísimas tiaras muy lujosas y modernas) también.
El caracter de Enrique es también falso en muchos aspectos. Por ejemplo, sus muchas amantes en la serie no eran tantas en la realidad. Y podría mencionar muchas otras cosas.
"History" should accord with Etymology. The only King that matters a damn is the King of Jerusalem. All Kings of Western Europe claim descent from The Christian Kings of Jerusalem during the Middle Ages. The First Christian man to be offered the Kingship of Jerusalem by a Pope ( Pope Urban II) was Duke Godfrey of Bouillon circa 1095 A.D. The surname Godfrey is an important name in Christendom, if you know Christian history. All Kings of Europe are related to each other. All Kings of Western Europe fought alongside each other during the First Crusade called by Pope Urban II.
Duke Godfrey of Bouillon (a Frenchman) led Western Europe in the First Crusade to liberate Jerusalem from Arab Conquerors. Godfrey saved Christianity from Arab Conquerors seeking to impose Islam on Europe in the 11th century. Godfrey is not a surname found among White men in Europe (today.)---------Source: www.NordicNames.de. NordicNames is a website that presents the origin of European names. Search "Godfrey" on NordicNames.com. It is a surname found in the English-speaking Caribbean Sea in the Americas. The surname Godfrey is found in the small English-speaking island of Jamaica among very, very Dark skin men with flat noses. Therefore, "History" conflicts with Etymology. "History" can change with conquerors. Etymology can not change with conquerors.