I don't agree, Catherine was very loved and still is by the English. I think that you are mistaking Catherine with her daughter "bloody" Mary, who suffered anti-catholic propaganda from the protestant side. The "funny" and sad thing is that many English still believe all that slander while also believing the fairy tale that her sister Elizabeth was a paragon of virtue, saved England from evil Spain and turned England into a global power.
@@alfgui3295 Yes, she is loved very much by the English. But the media’s portrayal of her is always an old, ugly, overweight, super religious woman, who isn’t willing to give up her young husband to the beautiful, charming Anne Boleyn. That is not true. Catherine did gain weight in her later life, because of all her failed pregnancies, but in her youth, she was described as “the most beautiful creature”. Henry loved her dearly, he fought hard to marry her, and their relationship was amazing at the start. She was not some stupid, whiny Spanish, she was regal, loyal, kind, humble, devoted, intelligent, and passionate. She was not boring, and while not really had the massive amount of charisma as Anne Boleyn, she was certainly a charming person who shared Henry’s love of music, poems, dancing, hunting, roleplay,...Those are the things the media got her wrong
She was stuck between two fires after Arthur's death. She couldn't go home because Henry VII refused to give her dowry back to her parents, but her parents also refused to pay Henry the otherhalf of the dowry.
@@Lily1127channel Isabel of Castile was dead, and Fernando was searching for a new bribe to father a son. Fernando had more political problems to think of, like Philip the handsome, and his son Charles. It was Fernando who decided to abandon his daughter in foreigns lands because she had no value for him
@@vilwarin5635 Yes. Ferdinand neglected her altogether. Even with things solved in Castile after 1506 (Philip dies and Ferdinand locks Joanna up) he continued to ignore Catherine and she only became queen of England in 1509 because of herself and Henry's infatuation with her. It's sad that out of all his political problems to think of, his own daughter's problem was the last he thought of.
I think she wanted to go back to spain, but that bloody henry vii wouldn't let her as he wasn't willing to give up the money/bloody dowry that she brought with her.
Poor woman. If only she went back to her home land yet she remained true to her Emglish subjects and King. The people of England loved her. It's a shame what happened to her and Mary. Life really is a bitch for some
Does Henry think his claim is that strong to the French Crown through his great grandmother(Catherine of Valois)who died a century before Henry was on the throne? In my opinion that is a weak claim
Even in Spanish TV, the actors for the baddies (i.e.Henry VI) are hot and articulate. Says a lot about English cinema, which tends to portray the Spanish side as ungainly. You notice things, you know?
@@Meow_Zedong_1949 Henry VIII wasn't a baddie either. The King was simply a product of his time. Without a male heir would also result in the destruction of the Tudor dynasty and civil war. England went through all that in the 15th century and lost all its French territories. It didn't want to go through that again.
@@ds1868 That's why Catherine was raising Mary to be the next Isabel. Henry should have just arranged Mary's marriage correctly when it became clear that there weren't going to be more children. Most of the rival Plantagenet claimants had already been executed by his father.
'Carlos, rey emperador' (it means: Charles, King Emperor), it's a Spanish TV series about the life of Charles of Habsburg (1500-1558), Holy Roman Emperor and King of Spain, the most powerful man in the world in his time.
@Rhys Hoffman From what I researched, her dynasty of Trastamara were almost all blonde, her mother Isabella included. Even on her painting from Holbein she have blonde hair. Mary Tudor inherited her hair from father. Even Allison Weir, a famous historian wrote that Catherine was blonde.
@Rhys Hoffman Weird, maybe an error in translation? I readed book about Catherine from Weir in czech language and there were clearly written that she was blonde several times. I apologize if thats not true but I believed it cause on portrait she has blonde hair too. At least for my eyes :-)
WOW I didn't know Henry can speak Spanish or at least if he did, shouldn't it be likely that he spoke with a thick English Accent if that was the case.
It's a Spanish series. That's why everyone speaks Spanish. Just like how for example Charles V spoke in English in 'The Tudors', an English series - when in real life Charles V could certainly never speak English....
Lili1127 okay but at least Charles V spoke in a French Accent and Kings and Nobles were educated to be conversant in other languages aside from their native tongue since there wasn’t a set lingua Franca during 15th century. So it isn’t unlikely that Charles V didn’t speak/understand English or even Spanish/Catalan/German
Charles didn't speak English, he never had to. He did learn to speak most languages of his territories. As mother language, he spoke Flemish and French, he could also understand Latin, German and Italian, and later in Spain as king of Spain he learned Castilian Spanish. Kings and nobles usually learned French and Latin aside their native tongues, that was the international way of communication. I don't understand why they should have tried to do accents in the show, they never do it it TV series or in historical TV shows. George Blagden's Louis XIV has no French accent in 'Versailles', neither has Megan Follows's Catherine de Medici in 'Reign', Richard Madden's Cosimo de Medici has also no Italian accent. They just speak the way they speak. It is always so.
True to all counts. I mean sure it maybe expensive on the production part to make them speak their native tongues with an interpreter or subtitles translating for the audiences but I think it would be preferable if they speak it with their character's accent. In fact I kinda find it also lazy on Richard Madden using his Robb Stark voice as Cosmino de Medici.
I think it's all about the popularizing effect, the fact that they want to make the show popular amongst wide crowds of audiences, and easy to watch for anyone. For example, the creator of the 'Vikings' TV series said that if the actors spoke old Norse, subtitled for the audience, they would have some thousand people to watch the show, but instead the characters all speak just English and so they have millions of audience worldwide.
This may sound really harsh and cruel, but I only consider Catherine of Aragon, Jane Seymour, Anne of Cleves and Katherine Parr as the true wives of Henry the 8th. Yes Anne Boleyn may have given birth to one of the most powerful monarch in English history, however she was the cause of Queen Catherine's misery. I know that it may sound unfair for Anne Boleyn and Catherine Howard, I don't support the fact that he murdered them at all, this is just my opinion.
@@TheCrochetCritters Anne was also involved with Catherine’s fall from grace. She treated Mary I so badly and when Catherine died, Anne was overjoyed that she could get rid of her enemy. Her ambition brought her to the end of life and I didn’t feel sorry for Anne at all. It’s a karma.
I think Henry VIII would have left Catherine anyway, Anne Boleyn was just the woman he chose to marry next. The way he dealt with Anne in the end suggests that his desire to have a male heir was always the main reason for his actions, not love (if he was ever capable of that). He just didn't see a future for England without a Tudor heir - no woman ruled there before, if one tried it it was always unsuccessful. He was probably afraid of another civil war like the War of Roses (which ended only 40 before) in case he had no male heir, so when he was certain Catherine could give him no more children he threw her away.
Anna Merritt Katherine would have been divorced with or without Anne, there would come, anthoer young and beatiful woman who would catch Hernys eye. Katherines downfall started long before Anne, came to court, as Bessie Blount gave birth to a son, Herny thought to divorce Katherine already in that time.
English portrayal of Catherine: old, overweight, fanatical catholic
Spanish portrayal of Catherine: cunning, smart, strategic politician
I don't agree, Catherine was very loved and still is by the English. I think that you are mistaking Catherine with her daughter "bloody" Mary, who suffered anti-catholic propaganda from the protestant side. The "funny" and sad thing is that many English still believe all that slander while also believing the fairy tale that her sister Elizabeth was a paragon of virtue, saved England from evil Spain and turned England into a global power.
@@alfgui3295 Yes, she is loved very much by the English. But the media’s portrayal of her is always an old, ugly, overweight, super religious woman, who isn’t willing to give up her young husband to the beautiful, charming Anne Boleyn. That is not true. Catherine did gain weight in her later life, because of all her failed pregnancies, but in her youth, she was described as “the most beautiful creature”. Henry loved her dearly, he fought hard to marry her, and their relationship was amazing at the start. She was not some stupid, whiny Spanish, she was regal, loyal, kind, humble, devoted, intelligent, and passionate. She was not boring, and while not really had the massive amount of charisma as Anne Boleyn, she was certainly a charming person who shared Henry’s love of music, poems, dancing, hunting, roleplay,...Those are the things the media got her wrong
The Tudors show never showed her as overweight or fanatical. She was on the older side, but not any older than the Catherine on this show.
"He de recordaros que no ha habido rey que pueda compararse a vuestra madre"
Qué gran verdad.
If Catherine had returned to Spain after Arthur died, then maybe she wouldn't have such a tragic fate.
She was stuck between two fires after Arthur's death. She couldn't go home because Henry VII refused to give her dowry back to her parents, but her parents also refused to pay Henry the otherhalf of the dowry.
@@Lily1127channel Isabel of Castile was dead, and Fernando was searching for a new bribe to father a son. Fernando had more political problems to think of, like Philip the handsome, and his son Charles. It was Fernando who decided to abandon his daughter in foreigns lands because she had no value for him
@@vilwarin5635 Yes. Ferdinand neglected her altogether. Even with things solved in Castile after 1506 (Philip dies and Ferdinand locks Joanna up) he continued to ignore Catherine and she only became queen of England in 1509 because of herself and Henry's infatuation with her.
It's sad that out of all his political problems to think of, his own daughter's problem was the last he thought of.
I think she wanted to go back to spain, but that bloody henry vii wouldn't let her as he wasn't willing to give up the money/bloody dowry that she brought with her.
Catalina era demasiado para el, el no se la merecia.
04:29.
Ohh querida reina Catalina , hasta a mi me dolio ver esa escena.
Catalina siempre sera la gran reina de los corazones!!
The only mistake catherine made was to let henry live after her daughter was born...l
He wanted a divorce because she bore him a daughter instead of a son. If he only knew what enormous power women can have...
He knew, his mother-in-law Isabel was a great monarch
Poor woman. If only she went back to her home land yet she remained true to her Emglish subjects and King. The people of England loved her. It's a shame what happened to her and Mary. Life really is a bitch for some
Sadly, she wasn't allowed to go back
Catherine of Aragon was abandoned by everyone
Actually, not quite. She was held in very high regard in England and remained highly respected to the end of her life, despite the divorce.
My queen
Does Henry think his claim is that strong to the French Crown through his great grandmother(Catherine of Valois)who died a century before Henry was on the throne? In my opinion that is a weak claim
Even in Spanish TV, the actors for the baddies (i.e.Henry VI) are hot and articulate. Says a lot about English cinema, which tends to portray the Spanish side as ungainly. You notice things, you know?
Even the arch enemy of the protagonist Charles, the French king Francis, is portrayed by a hot actor 😀
@@Lily1127channel Soooo right.
You mean Henry VIII, not Henry VI. Henry VI died in 1471 of "melancholy".
@@Meow_Zedong_1949 Henry VIII wasn't a baddie either. The King was simply a product of his time. Without a male heir would also result in the destruction of the Tudor dynasty and civil war. England went through all that in the 15th century and lost all its French territories. It didn't want to go through that again.
@@ds1868 That's why Catherine was raising Mary to be the next Isabel. Henry should have just arranged Mary's marriage correctly when it became clear that there weren't going to be more children. Most of the rival Plantagenet claimants had already been executed by his father.
God, he is creepy O-o
Whats the name of this series
Jamie Fox Carlos rey Emperador
'Carlos, rey emperador' (it means: Charles, King Emperor), it's a Spanish TV series about the life of Charles of Habsburg (1500-1558), Holy Roman Emperor and King of Spain, the most powerful man in the world in his time.
Enrique VIII era pelirojo, y a esa edad, aun delgado y atletico, muy guapo
No, ya no. Aquí casí tenía 40 años y peso. Antes, de joven (20-30 años), era guapo.
They couldn't find a redhead?
To play Henry VIII? They almost never do. Not even when he is the protagonist or one of the protagonists (The Tudors, The other Boleyn girl)
Katherine of Aragon was a redhead too. Blue eyes as well.
Actualy she was blonde.
@Rhys Hoffman From what I researched, her dynasty of Trastamara were almost all blonde, her mother Isabella included. Even on her painting from Holbein she have blonde hair. Mary Tudor inherited her hair from father. Even Allison Weir, a famous historian wrote that Catherine was blonde.
@Rhys Hoffman Weird, maybe an error in translation? I readed book about Catherine from Weir in czech language and there were clearly written that she was blonde several times. I apologize if thats not true but I believed it cause on portrait she has blonde hair too. At least for my eyes :-)
He's pretty handsome
IamDottieDandridge but he was NOT...
IamDottieDandridge
He was stupid.
Poor queen Catherine
@@vp2794 he was in his youth at least, then he got fat and smelly
He was when he was young.
@@nahirlulu3710 Stupid. He need an heir.
WOW I didn't know Henry can speak Spanish or at least if he did, shouldn't it be likely that he spoke with a thick English Accent if that was the case.
It's a Spanish series. That's why everyone speaks Spanish. Just like how for example Charles V spoke in English in 'The Tudors', an English series - when in real life Charles V could certainly never speak English....
Lili1127 okay but at least Charles V spoke in a French Accent and Kings and Nobles were educated to be conversant in other languages aside from their native tongue since there wasn’t a set lingua Franca during 15th century. So it isn’t unlikely that Charles V didn’t speak/understand English or even Spanish/Catalan/German
Charles didn't speak English, he never had to. He did learn to speak most languages of his territories. As mother language, he spoke Flemish and French, he could also understand Latin, German and Italian, and later in Spain as king of Spain he learned Castilian Spanish. Kings and nobles usually learned French and Latin aside their native tongues, that was the international way of communication.
I don't understand why they should have tried to do accents in the show, they never do it it TV series or in historical TV shows. George Blagden's Louis XIV has no French accent in 'Versailles', neither has Megan Follows's Catherine de Medici in 'Reign', Richard Madden's Cosimo de Medici has also no Italian accent. They just speak the way they speak. It is always so.
True to all counts. I mean sure it maybe expensive on the production part to make them speak their native tongues with an interpreter or subtitles translating for the audiences but I think it would be preferable if they speak it with their character's accent. In fact I kinda find it also lazy on Richard Madden using his Robb Stark voice as Cosmino de Medici.
I think it's all about the popularizing effect, the fact that they want to make the show popular amongst wide crowds of audiences, and easy to watch for anyone. For example, the creator of the 'Vikings' TV series said that if the actors spoke old Norse, subtitled for the audience, they would have some thousand people to watch the show, but instead the characters all speak just English and so they have millions of audience worldwide.
Ouch.
This may sound really harsh and cruel, but I only consider Catherine of Aragon, Jane Seymour, Anne of Cleves and Katherine Parr as the true wives of Henry the 8th. Yes Anne Boleyn may have given birth to one of the most powerful monarch in English history, however she was the cause of Queen Catherine's misery. I know that it may sound unfair for Anne Boleyn and Catherine Howard, I don't support the fact that he murdered them at all, this is just my opinion.
Don't blame women for the mistakes men make. The cause of Catherine's misery was Henry. No one else's.
He was a Protestant
@@TheCrochetCritters Anne was also involved with Catherine’s fall from grace. She treated Mary I so badly and when Catherine died, Anne was overjoyed that she could get rid of her enemy. Her ambition brought her to the end of life and I didn’t feel sorry for Anne at all. It’s a karma.
@@TheCrochetCritters Anne Boleyn was a cheating cunt
Adulterous hog king
Poor Catherine of Aragon, that wicked Anne Boleyn stole her man from her.
I think Henry VIII would have left Catherine anyway, Anne Boleyn was just the woman he chose to marry next.
The way he dealt with Anne in the end suggests that his desire to have a male heir was always the main reason for his actions, not love (if he was ever capable of that). He just didn't see a future for England without a Tudor heir - no woman ruled there before, if one tried it it was always unsuccessful. He was probably afraid of another civil war like the War of Roses (which ended only 40 before) in case he had no male heir, so when he was certain Catherine could give him no more children he threw her away.
Anna Merritt
Katherine would have been divorced with or without Anne, there would come, anthoer young and beatiful woman who would catch Hernys eye. Katherines downfall started long before Anne, came to court, as Bessie Blount gave birth to a son, Herny thought to divorce Katherine already in that time.
Max Mergler Than why didn't Henry just marry Bessie Blount instead of Anne?
Anna Merritt
Because she already had a husband
Max Mergler How do you know Bessie Blount had a husband? If she was married than Henry could have had him killed or even put in prison.