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  • @_Art.Vandelay
    @_Art.Vandelay 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +361

    You and Hop should do a Black Friday build competition to see who can make the better AR using only deals you find on Black Friday. 24 hours to get what you need, no weekend long deals bs.

    • @Performancebuilder-zp8jr
      @Performancebuilder-zp8jr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      No deals on the best of the best

    • @spehhhsssmarineer8961
      @spehhhsssmarineer8961 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I second this idea!

    • @gob7116
      @gob7116 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      +1, this!!! A top gear style challenge for guns is all we want tbh.
      Surefire finally got back and became competitive with the turbo series. Not likely the best light still, but at least they’re not operating on decades old tech. Rein 3 is still king and I’m curious to see if SF can snag a win for the 18350 lights at least, or if the rein 3 micro also takes it.

    • @Silverdunk
      @Silverdunk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Just go to gafs

    • @alexmaurice4274
      @alexmaurice4274 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I suppose it’d be similar to the James reeves vs hop thing but Idk I think brass vs hop would be way more fun and interesting and detail packed

  • @curgunner
    @curgunner 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

    Cloud still has my heart because they regularly go on sale for $300 and they come with the tape switch that I don’t mind at all.

    • @biunzRS
      @biunzRS 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Theyve gone on sale for $260

    • @Fadaar
      @Fadaar 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I caught Surefire 640V's on sale for $349.99 a pop at Primary Arms a few months ago. Splurged and got 6.
      edit: Oh hey that's what they're going for right now. Still gotta spend a few more bucks more to get a tape switch and compatible tail cap so still looking at $400+ per setup.

    • @SnapD24
      @SnapD24 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Cloud Defensive's Rein 3.0 still craps on Surefire when you think about the cost-to-performance ratio for a full setup.

    • @lordofkeebs8424
      @lordofkeebs8424 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      640 dft at tactical def is like $263 rn.

    • @2amichaelj
      @2amichaelj 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Based af comment

  • @homerj109
    @homerj109 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Looking forward to the light tier list. I liked that format and hope you do more like it.

  • @jeepkiller69
    @jeepkiller69 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I've had one in my shopping cart for two weeks. I couldn't pull the trigger. Thanks Brass Facts for helping me spend my money!!

  • @BandAid350z
    @BandAid350z 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Thanks BathFaps for sharing your experiences honestly and not shilling. Although, if I were to ever shill for a WML when asked, I’d do it for Surefire because you really can’t go wrong with them.

  • @JustAGuy1031
    @JustAGuy1031 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Love the turbo series so far. Excited to see streamlight just dropped their new PRO HLX. It’s a new tailcap design that’s dual function (crane plug or button backup) and 50K candela. That might quickly take over as my go-to “budget friendly” option for rifles that aren’t the main squeeze. Hope to see a video from you on it when it drops.

    • @adamrodgers2377
      @adamrodgers2377 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I saw that one also, from the pictures that Tail Cap update looks good I hope their Tape Switches for them are rugged. I can't wait to try one myself. I actually want one of those and one of these new Surefires.

    • @RADIOACTIVEBUNY
      @RADIOACTIVEBUNY 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Excellent improvement

    • @IsThatMikiko
      @IsThatMikiko 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      there’s always the nightstick rifle light series, or even GoonBeam long v1-v2. pretty nice budget rifle lights.

    • @JustAGuy1031
      @JustAGuy1031 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@adamrodgers2377 well it looks like the new streamlight design works with crane plugs. So worst case scenario if their new pressure pads are still kinda meh, you can use any crane plug pressure pad (unity, mod button, etc)

    • @TerminalM193
      @TerminalM193 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Goonbeam is putting out far better candella & lumen in a lighter and cheaper package.

  • @chanceywestfall6343
    @chanceywestfall6343 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I know this might be too big for some, but if you are chasing candela the Modlite HOG WML has that covered at 170,000 with a 3 hour run time. I don't run any night vision, so my duty weapon is dedicated white light only. the size of the HOG has not bothered me.

    • @rondobrondo
      @rondobrondo 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Specifically the HOG OKW head

  • @TheAaronalden
    @TheAaronalden 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    As a poor, I'm not actually looking to buy anything... so i don't know why i enjoy these videos so much. Anyway keep making them, and I'll keep watching them!

  • @fettachinimartini7204
    @fettachinimartini7204 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I use my 640 turbo on my fire helmet. The ridiculous candela cuts through smoke better then anyone else’s light and when my coworkers ask where they can get one they shit themselves when I say it’s 300$ lol

    • @blackout.ghost718
      @blackout.ghost718 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The rein 3.0 is better

    • @jamarrchasingjoe3310
      @jamarrchasingjoe3310 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@blackout.ghost718Cloud is great if you love faulty switches

    • @jackkrakowski5326
      @jackkrakowski5326 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What helmet do you have, and how did you mount it exactly?

    • @fettachinimartini7204
      @fettachinimartini7204 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jackkrakowski5326 echo arms helmet plate it’s a big sticker you can get them either mlok or pic rail

    • @rondobrondo
      @rondobrondo 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@blackout.ghost718 better in what way?

  • @Unholy07
    @Unholy07 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    When I got into WMLs, all I could afford was Streamlight, so thats what rode on all my guns.
    Then a few years ago I was able to afford Surefire. I bought several Surefires to be part of the cool guy club. After several melted diodes, several warranty claims and an time of 6 months in for warranty on one of them before the Surefire Rep offered a different light as replacement (as "we do not have an expected time to get the parts to repair your light"). Ive ordered another Streamlight....
    In my job I use a handheld multiple times a day, and my first Streamlight 2LX I bought for $50 and have had for many years in in my pocket way more than the $250 plus Fury or the now replacement Peacekeeper.
    Looking into other offerings like Modlight, but really fear they will be the same big price for poor quality as Surefire.
    I know Streamlight isnt end of the world Will Smith against the Robot Zombie Vampires, but at a fraction of the price, I can afford to replace them if I get consistent problems.

    • @mrdark9916
      @mrdark9916 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ive had problems with ALL 5 Stream light rifle lights I've had.
      I have 4 pistol lights that are great, but their rifle pressure pads are TRASH. Legit all 5 I've had, HLXs, RM2s ECT. Every single one. Pad problems for life. I no longer trust them with my life.
      I sold them all except 1 HLX with the button tail cap on a Shotgun.
      But their pistol lights and handhelds I love, I have over a dozen different Streamlights, but never again for the rifle lights

  • @HotelBravo556
    @HotelBravo556 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    The M640DFT is easily one of the weapon lights on the market.

    • @Heikin-Ashi-Larry
      @Heikin-Ashi-Larry 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      It’s definitely a weapon light on the market you’re absolutely right😂🤣😂

    • @mr.b3132
      @mr.b3132 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That's super Cereal

    • @Matthew-bu5pq
      @Matthew-bu5pq 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      This was the comment I’ve seen all day

    • @gunfightersquid6732
      @gunfightersquid6732 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Its even funnier the sixth millionth time!

  • @lazylobster31
    @lazylobster31 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Heads up for anyone interested, Primary Arms have turbos on sale for 280$. I just ordered mine there, thanks for validating my purchase!

    • @fukkit528
      @fukkit528 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i just ordered a 640df like 3 days ago FUCK

    • @fukkit528
      @fukkit528 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      $323

  • @MrAirsoft6mm
    @MrAirsoft6mm 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Weltool lights are a strong contender. The LH8 head has 1200 lumens, 80k candela and fits on surefire bodies and uses same accessories. And its less than half the price! They have a bunch of different heads and bodies. Should definitely check them out!

    • @cub8556
      @cub8556 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Are they potting their electronics yet? Durability was always the issue

    • @rondobrondo
      @rondobrondo 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cub8556 they are not potted yet

  • @ellisoncheng2174
    @ellisoncheng2174 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I like how I can justify buying an expensive WML that I have a near 0% chance of using in a defensive use but won’t spend more than $50 on a EDC light that would get daily usage.

    • @alexisdetocqueville9964
      @alexisdetocqueville9964 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes... this is a very real thing. I mentioned in a comment that gun accessories can easily become another consumer habit just like anything else. If we're being realistic, I think it comes down to wanting to have the latest and greatest on your rifle so you can look at it and feel good. Realistically I think I've used my white light less than 10 times while actually shooting, but use my pocket light daily.

  • @zack9912000
    @zack9912000 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Will still buy surefire to this day. They have never failed me under hard use like others i tried to "save on"

  • @SpecOpsGear
    @SpecOpsGear 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You've brought up a really important point on white lights in a few of your videos: Once you have night vision, you care a lot less about white light. Yeah, still have a WML to check the box, but for me i don't really care about them beyond "does it work? ok."

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      yep, I run 1 cells, or the surefire vampire on most of my rifles.
      the vampire mostly just because it has a "off" switch.

    • @SpecOpsGear
      @SpecOpsGear 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BrassFacts my next wml will be 1 cell because all my low light setups end up heavy like a purple haired women's studies major and i'll never do enough pushups to overcome that. :/

    • @SpecOpsGear
      @SpecOpsGear 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ChristopherGoydich-cb6bd exactly. aimpoint and a plain-jane white light for situations where i have to make a quick close in shot and don't have nods ready or inside a structure where white light makes more sense.

    • @yzhou05
      @yzhou05 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good WML is always nice to have, even on a GPR configured for NV shooting. Never know when you won’t have a head mount/nods on hand.

  • @mrdark9916
    @mrdark9916 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I got my 2 Rein 3.0s for only $270 on sale, and they came with outstanding pressure pads that I feel like I can actually trust. After having five separate streamlight pressure pads fail me on five separate lights, as well as 2 replacement pads from streamlight, I got tired of the BS.
    I trust streamlight pistol lights and handhelds with my life, but I no longer trust their rifle lights/pressure pads. I'm definitely happy with my two Cloud Defensive lights. The Rein 3.0s are legit. 😊

  • @sneakytails1724
    @sneakytails1724 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I sold all my Cloud lights (6 of them) and went back to surefire with the new DFT's. I could not stand the short ass cables on the the cloud switches. I have a baby 300 BO PDW and the cloud switch cable still was not long enough to get the switch where I wanted it. The Surefire switches are just lower profile too and I can get 7" cables that actually work on my setups. I wanted to like cloud but they refused to update the switches.

  • @ShurkMan413
    @ShurkMan413 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'd recommend checking out the Weltool lights, namely the LH8 heads (W65B or W65C as an actual WML body). Weltool uses the same ANSI spec as Surefire to measure lumens where its the output after a few seconds, where Cloud, Modlite, and most others measure at 'at-on', which is generally about 10% higher than a matching ANSI rating. All that to say, the LH8 can be had for $120 during Black Friday sales, and punching up at 86k candela and 1300 lumens puts it at a vastly better price to performance ratio than any of the other 6 digit lights.
    I love mine and will shamelessly simp

    • @DRPDieter
      @DRPDieter 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same here. Even though its Chinese, I beat the hell out of it on a surefire DF body when I first got it and its still rockin. got a LH6 head as well and it beats out the vampire IR 100%

    • @rondobrondo
      @rondobrondo 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DRPDieter how many rounds have you shot with it?

    • @rondobrondo
      @rondobrondo 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      it's not just "after a few seconds", it's after THIRTY seconds to 30 minutes (or 20 minutes? I can't remember rn.). So,, for many of these lights it is unfortunately usually much lower than their instant-max at turn-on levels of output, and about 25-50% of their life before they throttle to 50% of their peak output anyway. So they make the argument that, "Hey, ANSI specs are not a very good indicator for the performance of a weapon light. What matters more is the instant max potential and having your light be as bright as possible as fast as possible and just run it hard even if it means it needs to start dumping load and throttling fast. Because many lights are designed to be used very very sparingly. They aren't designed to run for 30 seconds straight, let alone SEVERAL HOURS straight. So there is definitely good reason for a lot of these makers to 'pick their metrics', because ANSI is very unfair in a lot of ways to the currently trending use doctrine for WML's

  • @devinhuffines6761
    @devinhuffines6761 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The MDRX is the BEST rifle I've ever owned. You can fix the hand guard easily. Also, I don't know why, but putting an OSS HUXWRKS suppressor on the end made it shoot as smooth as my .22. I hope you continue to train with it.

    • @Forrestminds
      @Forrestminds 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gotta give it to those flow through cans. They’re a neat piece of gear

  • @TerminalM193
    @TerminalM193 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've been using goonbeam for both rifle and pistol lights for a few years now. It's a streamlight footprint but with MUCH better candela and lumens. I'm actually shocked how well their v1 short is. I believe it's 600 lumen but has 60k candella, all in a tlr 1 footprint.

  • @mattyfz496
    @mattyfz496 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As an owner of a m300 DFT and cloud defense rein 3.0 (legacy and non legacy) surefire falls short on useable spill, it’s all candela. Not bad for the price though

  • @adamjones1641
    @adamjones1641 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is my new GOTO light. Love the built in mount and clicky cap.

  • @RunningWithSauce
    @RunningWithSauce 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I run the M640V, I don’t need to light someone up with WL at 200 yards. The whole excessive gear thing is getting ridiculous. I only went that route because they wouldn’t let me use my MIL/LE discount on an M600 citing contracts.
    Love your content.

    • @Heywoodthepeckerwood
      @Heywoodthepeckerwood 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You sound bitter for some reason chap.

    • @RunningWithSauce
      @RunningWithSauce 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Heywoodthepeckerwoodhaha. Love his content. Hate yours.

    • @Heywoodthepeckerwood
      @Heywoodthepeckerwood 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RunningWithSauce love your mothers content.

    • @RunningWithSauce
      @RunningWithSauce 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You would, she's dead. Sick Fugger. @@Heywoodthepeckerwood

  • @Tarburz
    @Tarburz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    2:11
    yeah I think the Rein 3.0 and it's equivalents are about as good as it's going to get with the LED tech we currently have as far as the mix of throw vs flood.
    unless something major happens in technology like battery life or something, I think WMLs have kind of peaked for a while

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      yeah I like the cr123/18650 dynamic. I would be really annoyed if they pushed a new battery.

    • @Tarburz
      @Tarburz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@BrassFacts yeah I have to many 123s and 19650s to be bothered to switch anytime in the next decade

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@ChristopherGoydich-cb6bd The Protac 2 is the worst light on the market right now. And olights are not up to snuff in terms of durability.

    • @Bursar60
      @Bursar60 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BrassFacts I think you had a video, but I forget, tldr why the protac 2.0 sucks? I get lost in all the fucking names but I have one of those and I think an HLX sitting in a box, kinda thinking of trying a goonbeam for an dedicated IR and maybe try the newer pro HLX if it's worth over the 2.0

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Bursar60 it does everything worse than a HLX for almost twice the size, a proprietary batt, a streamlight only plug, and a steep price tag for what it is.

  • @MagpulWaffleMaker
    @MagpulWaffleMaker 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I appreciate the AvE easter eggs in your last couple videos. I’ll save some doll hairs to try this new SF WML.

  • @gearedmind
    @gearedmind 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    While I love my Arisakas, this is my new go-to light. Great video as always. I look forward to the Friday Brass Facts video! 🔥

  • @venton3
    @venton3 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Goonbeam Long V1 I got for $95 has an impressive amount of throw for the money. I haven’t had it very long but initial impressions are good.

  • @PoonDestroyer69
    @PoonDestroyer69 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ill never run SF rifle mounted light again after having a new 600DF die on me next to a SFWC on mission. Been running Modlite OKW and even next to a SFMB on a 10.3 and all has been well for many years. Even have one next to a 13” SCAR-H SFMB and its been just fine. SF rifle lights just arent it anymore.. Still run their x300 for now.

  • @SuperMrBguy
    @SuperMrBguy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At this point my go to is an arisaka 300 series light. for being lightweight and good up close. then I upscale to the rein 2/3 for the longer bois. And i have a regular SF DF pro and thats cool. but not enough to make me upgrade again.

  • @randomjoker21
    @randomjoker21 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Really interested in your take on Cloud Defensive. I really like my lights, though the switches can be better for sure. And the fact that they easily get discounted to $300 for the combo package is quite the value proposition imo

    • @nikik5567
      @nikik5567 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He did a rein 3.0 review a month or so ago.

  • @1924Eugene
    @1924Eugene 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am done with the UE tailcaps. One plug would recoil out on a 223 rifle, the second UE would flicker, the 3rd UE didn't work out of the sealed bag. Now running the 'Gascap' with a USB-C plug. Fingers crossed.

    • @rondobrondo
      @rondobrondo 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      were they all 100% verified legitimate parts? Or were any of them potentially counterfeit

    • @1924Eugene
      @1924Eugene 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rondobrondo One was OEM, the second came from Optics Planet, another from a local SureFire authorized dealer, all from sealed bags. No grey market Amazon parts or used parts. Still happy with the GasCap conversions.

  • @ghostofmarx867
    @ghostofmarx867 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I would love to see you and Hop do a poverty tier kit vs a "fuck you money" kit.
    Like everything all put together, and see just how much capability gap the whole package adds up to, and where the critical performance metrics intersect to really make something more capable. People could, I think, greatly benefit from some insights into where their dollars should go from a cost-performance ratio regarding a full kit.
    Like obviously nobodys gonna drop 800 on a backpack if they're running an Amazon mystery meat red dot. But which makes sense to upgrade first, a PSA blem special, or the SLx you slap on top of it, is something of an open question.

    • @Jacob-zv7xw
      @Jacob-zv7xw 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      him and hop already have a lot of videos talking about kit, guns, optics, etc. all ranging from cheap to expensive. That’s pretty much all they do 😂 I’m sure they already covered all the kit and guns they would use in that video.

  • @stephanarizona9094
    @stephanarizona9094 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ALL of my SBR's and PDW's all run the SureFire M640V!

  • @jacobhesington6725
    @jacobhesington6725 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I listen to this channel when I do laundry so often that if I start a video it reminds me to do laundry

  • @MaximusOverhead
    @MaximusOverhead 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm still rockin incandescent surefire 961s/51s because well they still work, chucks light all the down a city block well enough, they can be upgraded to LED but then the battery life takes a nose dive. spending 400 on a light still just hurts my poor soul.

  • @nikik5567
    @nikik5567 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ll stick to a rein 3 head on a legacy body. The better lumens of the cloud, still being able to use surefire tail caps, and it’s a tiny bit cheaper than buying a complete rein 3.

  • @bravo_cj
    @bravo_cj 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've just noticed that now Brass Facts has 101K subs! CONGRATULATIONS!!!

  • @peanut2220
    @peanut2220 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Luke with the backwards mag insertion was solid gold lmaooo

  • @johndunbar2393
    @johndunbar2393 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like Cloud, solely because a 50 dollar mount, is cheaper than a $175 switch and tail cap. Though, I've seen a fella test Surefire DFT's against the comparable REIN, and Surefire will hold max output longer than the REIN and the REIN falls off, or steps down fast, and the Surefire is quite a bit more gentle of a step down.
    Ultimately, I'm just glad we have plenty of competition and choices. Can't go wrong with several of them.

  • @vonleiningen
    @vonleiningen 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had a x400v-b on my Flux Raider and the IR laser kept losing zero. I found that after 1600+/- rounds the x400v-b clamp on mount was slowly eating away at the polymer pic rail. I then switched to a x300t-a with a older Scout IR lense cap and had been perfect.

  • @TheMsdos25
    @TheMsdos25 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Fyi, Streamlight just released an HL-X "Pro" with 50,000 candela and a clone of Surefires Ds-00 tailcap.

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      yep
      that looks promising, it what the protac 2 should have been

    • @adamrodgers2377
      @adamrodgers2377 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@BrassFacts 💯 Facts 😁

    • @rondobrondo
      @rondobrondo 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      the jack cap on the pro sucks for one specific reason : it's designed for their tape switch plug that LOOKS like crane, but it's not crane, which is obnoxious. And the switch plug doesn't stay in the cap's jack very well at all. It wiggles everywhere and mine wouldn't even hold contact, even while brand new out of the box.

  • @blindanddeaf
    @blindanddeaf 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just in time to get one on a good deal. Got it for $305 after shipping and taxes.

  • @MoonMoon-gu2ge
    @MoonMoon-gu2ge 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Everytime i see the price of weapon lights it makes me seriously contemplate being one of those guys in his garage making them.

    • @rondobrondo
      @rondobrondo 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You should man. you can make some decent money doing it if you are legitimately talented and know how to make the most of cheap Chinese emitters like the SFT-40, SFT-70, or even if you start using more premium stuff like the Osram's that are in cloud and modlites

  • @patrickclark9430
    @patrickclark9430 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The king of weapon mounted lights is Streamlight. Thanks.
    -The poors (me)

  • @jagervonweebs610
    @jagervonweebs610 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Seems like a cool time to pickup cheap older surfires lmao

  • @notyourtypicalsquanch6372
    @notyourtypicalsquanch6372 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Primary arms has these for 250 instead of 400 right now, primo deal 👌🏻

  • @boygonewhoopdataZZ
    @boygonewhoopdataZZ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ditching the scout mounting interface was A FRICKING DAMN GOOD CHOICE

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      they do both.

    • @wolfgang_h3t
      @wolfgang_h3t 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why, exactly? My first wml was a pro (same system as this), I ended switching to the scout mount style w arisaka and their mounts

  • @geofalke
    @geofalke 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bought a scout 640df a while back and it's been plagued by the dim and flicker after about 100 rounds. After trying every fix save for just replacing the head itself so I'm a bit hesitant to buy *another* surefire light at this point which is a shame because I love the swivel mount and how the clicky tailcap feels.

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      understandable. the old DF fucking suck

  • @free2chasehappy
    @free2chasehappy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have the X300T and I absolutely love it! Pricey, but definitely worth it.

  • @ViktoriousDead
    @ViktoriousDead 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m really not fully understating the purpose of a hyper throw light head on a “genera/ purpose” sort of combat aimed rifle.
    For hunting purposes it’s awesome, but for a carbine it’s kind of a slightly odd concept.

    • @HotelBravo556
      @HotelBravo556 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Haven't done a lot of shooting at night w/o nods, huh?

    • @wolfgang_h3t
      @wolfgang_h3t 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Having a head with throw is really nice. Carbines are still rifles, engaging at distance is a realistic scenario with them, and that throw helps a lot more than the flood would in closer distances.

  • @Militaristics
    @Militaristics 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    from my own testing with all the lights at the same time on my deck the Rein 3.0 has a bigger brighter hot spot & a wider and brighter spill area, the Sure Fire was in 2nd place and OKW & PLHv2 were 3 rd & 4th place. the color temp was also a factor with the rein 3.0 being the warmest and the Turbo next. the 2 Modlites were the coolest coler temps and looked sharper but side by side back-to-back it was easier & faster to get details at distance with the warmer cooler temps. I'll be waiting to see your results. Chuck-Buddies

    • @basedWisco715
      @basedWisco715 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nothing beats Cloud, especially now that they can interface with SF tailcaps

  • @HK_roller_delayed
    @HK_roller_delayed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There is no such thing as too much candela.
    OKW Hog has entered the chat

  • @joebaker5305
    @joebaker5305 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the 640. It's great

  • @lordhuck2689
    @lordhuck2689 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice to have surefire on top again.

  • @Horseysauce
    @Horseysauce 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just in time for streamlight to come out swinging with the hlx pro

  • @gunterstraus606
    @gunterstraus606 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was already interested in one, but now I feel a bit better about my decision to go with one over the Rein 3.0. Now I just need to figure out how to mount it to a G3 with SPUHR rail and have it clear of the sling and charging handle.

    • @JackTagar
      @JackTagar 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same deal except with a MI mlok handguard. I'm running a Surefire Vampire, but I have it on the right side of the rifle on a gooseneck mount and run the tape switch cable along the bottom of the handguard and have the button under my thumb. The magpul mlok mount with the SR-07 switch is low pro enough that it stays out of the way of the charging handle

    • @gunterstraus606
      @gunterstraus606 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JackTagar I was considering doing something similar, except using the Velcro adhesive and a cable tie to hold the tape switch on the top of the cocking tube. I have been moving away from that idea as I am considering that space for accessing a LAM and I don't like the performance dip the Surefire switches cause

    • @JackTagar
      @JackTagar 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gunterstraus606 If you use the pic rail adapter on that handguard, you could mount two Modlite Modbuttons. One for the light and one for the laser. Dunno if it'll be low pro enough with the charging handle though

    • @gunterstraus606
      @gunterstraus606 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JackTagar I had originally purchased a Cloud Defensive REIN 3.0 and had it set up in a similar fashion, however the charging handle and tape switch got in the way. Thanks for the suggestion though. The MLOK handguard seems to be a better option for those modernizations, though I feel more confident with my SPUHR hanguard retaining zero and weighing less.

    • @JackTagar
      @JackTagar 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@gunterstraus606 I was originally going to go with a Spuhr handguard as well, but the MI handguard won out just because I had so many extra mlok things from my AR builds. I haven't tested it with a laser so no idea if it'll hold zero, but instead of the push-button pin, it uses a screw, and there's a bit of adjustment for fit, so as long as you blue locktite everything, it should be stiff enough. (And lets be real, it just needs to be zeroed enough to shoot at stuff under 150yrds or so. Any farther and you should be using your optics with a clip on NVG or thermal anyway imo).

  • @History_Coffee
    @History_Coffee 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the x300 turbo on my carry gun and it's a beast, got me wanting one of these for my carbine. (I am a surefire simp I even bought the xc1)

  • @thomaseric8662
    @thomaseric8662 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The algorithm requires engagement

  • @jalowery1246
    @jalowery1246 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looking forward to that light tier video.

  • @koryflanigan7508
    @koryflanigan7508 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve already consoomed this product, 😢it didn’t stop ean sovarino smithers from getting to my dads 🐝 🕳️

    • @rondobrondo
      @rondobrondo 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      lmao dude hahahah

  • @RGW66
    @RGW66 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “Elbow Grease” Lol… Keep up the great content!

  • @tylerbowman1505
    @tylerbowman1505 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    After 3 640 DF pros and a 340 turbo, i still like my OWL better.

  • @JAM76ER
    @JAM76ER 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another light I can’t afford. I do like the content still.

  • @FaustianDaydreams
    @FaustianDaydreams 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I probably won’t run out and replace my HLX but the next time I’m buying a light, I’ll probably consider this. Unless by then stream light has another “just as good” in which case, my inner poor will probably come out again.

  • @basedWisco715
    @basedWisco715 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rein is brighter, warmer, has better spill, and isn’t ugly

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      but doesn't really integrate with the surefire ecosystem that is now a standard. The tail cap thing was a step in the right direction though.

    • @basedWisco715
      @basedWisco715 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BrassFacts the legacy body does exactly what you’re describing

    • @rondobrondo
      @rondobrondo 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@BrassFacts yeh, would you prefer to use the Rein if you had a legacy body or if you had a Rein-to-surefire adaptor so that you could use all the same Surefire stuff? Because that's what is possible now and I'm wondering if you think the Surefire is actually better in terms of usability and practical performance or usage of the lights? Like is the lower lumen output and lesser flood output a benefit for the Surefire because it's able to put light out to distance without making as big of a 'wake' as the Rein 3.0? Or would you rather just run the Rein 3.0 if had surefire switches?

  • @peachfuds
    @peachfuds 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have 2 of these and love them

  • @benthephilosopher
    @benthephilosopher 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brassfacts: “buying any light other than a protac hlx is kind of a waste of money”
    Also brassfacts: “surefire light OP”

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I didn't say that. Diminishing returns are a thing to be conscious about though.

    • @benthephilosopher
      @benthephilosopher 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wasn’t meaning to be critical. I also think the cost difference between a protac hlx and any of the super high candela lights is probably not worth the performance difference, at least for civilians on a budget. But I also 100% feel the consooomer pull to want the newest coolest piece of kit, as I suspect we all do.

  • @walkercustoms
    @walkercustoms 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you

  • @sonickiller360
    @sonickiller360 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why would you get this over the 340 dft? Only real benefit I can see is a little extra battery life.

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      performance and ability to use a 18650

  • @candyinthefire
    @candyinthefire 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like light output is subjective to your purpose. The age old comparison of CQB vs GP or Recce would dictate if a scout mini or a full thrust light is needed.
    I’m doing fine with my Streamlight rail mounts and scout mini, but I’m not shooting across the badlands with them

  • @wesjohnston8286
    @wesjohnston8286 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Like my x300t-b but didn’t feel upgrading my rifle light from the hrt head was worth the squeeze.

  • @rondobrondo
    @rondobrondo 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sorry, I'm really confused. What is the benefit of this light over the Rein 3.0? Or like the Weltool W65L (The LEP light with spill lens, which hits 175,000 candela and like 700 lumen). Or like a Z-Bolt high candela light? But especially the Rein 3.0... like is it better to have a smaller beam pattern on this light vs the Rein 3.0? Is it more practically usable vs the rein? Or is it literally just the higher battery life and the switch compatibility? Because the Rein 3.0 with a tail cap adaptor or the legacy body can use all the surefire stuff now.

  • @davidsirmons
    @davidsirmons 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Watched for gunstuff.
    Enjoyed for info.
    Liked for Tacti-Pooch.

  • @andrewcopeland1517
    @andrewcopeland1517 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m not sure if surefire updated their tail caps and haven’t said anything or what but I had an issue with a UE tailcap I’d had. Emailed surefire and they sent me a new one. No issues since with flickering

  • @amagicalpotato
    @amagicalpotato ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Am I the only one whose Rein 3.0 switch came with nuts too large for the screws? I had to use smol zip ties to hold it together, which actually work pretty well

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yep, happened to a ton of people

    • @Tarburz
      @Tarburz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah someone on the assembly line accidently mixed a couple bins of nuts and caused a big CS mess haha. they would have sent you new nuts if you had asked

  • @islas357
    @islas357 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I basically go Cloud for long guns, surefire or streamlight for pistols. At least for now.

  • @jeremyfigueroa1683
    @jeremyfigueroa1683 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey brass facts, are you gonna busy on November 25th, 2 days after Thanksgiving? There's is a shooting event in Arizona, $30 shoot unlimited ammo, suppressed nd full auto. Companies like silencerco, dead air, huxwrx nd different companies are gonna attend, giving away suppressors in raffles, some in event discounts on products from companies that attend.

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I dont live in arizona. So no, I'm not doing anything, but that's a bit out of my way.

    • @jeremyfigueroa1683
      @jeremyfigueroa1683 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BrassFacts bring hop along nd.......
      ROAD TRIP LOL

  • @godzilla51196
    @godzilla51196 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imma stick to my Goonbeams. They're basically streamlight clones, but minmaxed for candela.

  • @dansgarage4572
    @dansgarage4572 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    REIN 3.0 on sale $300 and is complete, This SF on sale, $300 and needs a new tail cap and tape switch (say another $100 minimum)
    REIN 3.0 is still brighter

  • @alexisdetocqueville9964
    @alexisdetocqueville9964 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Meh. I'm fine with my Arisaka / Malkoff lights. If I'm being honest I BARELY shoot with white light, and have never needed anything more than a streamlight really. Feel like diving into the minutiae of candela and min/maxing on expensive new lights is money better spent on ammo, and time better spent on other things. It's very easy to go down the consoomer rabbithole with gun accessories.

  • @rnginu59
    @rnginu59 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ive spent so much money on surefire lights and now they came out with turbos. 😂 looks like im buying another round of lights 😅

  • @zowie0101
    @zowie0101 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My 600 DF has the “blinky” problem as well I love that light inside but if you have any remote switch there is no such thing as 100%

  • @joshh879
    @joshh879 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Still hard to justify most lights over a streamlight hlx as far as cost to performance.

    • @adamrodgers2377
      @adamrodgers2377 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah and there new Pro HLX looks awesome, I hope they're as tough as the HLX. I haven't seen one in person yet but the new Tail Cap Switch seems like a good upgrade.

    • @ViktoriousDead
      @ViktoriousDead 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very true

  • @robertrabensohn3329
    @robertrabensohn3329 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks like surefire 's back on the menu boys

  • @derrictaylor1181
    @derrictaylor1181 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2 vids in one week. You must really love us. 🖤

  • @ry3713
    @ry3713 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    whoa whoa whoa...i must know the brand of bolt release you've got on that there rifle at 4:31

  • @sethjohnson5681
    @sethjohnson5681 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the surefire m340dft the shorter turbo light on one of my rifles and i have had some flickering issues with it, changed out the tail cap to one of my others i had laying around and it seemed to have fixed it hopefully. Only time will tell.

  • @highdesertdrew1844
    @highdesertdrew1844 ปีที่แล้ว

    Last time messing around in the desert, I was running a LEP light, and a HL-X for flood. Would be kinda nice if these two functions were available in a single light. One of the points you brought up, is the ultra-throw lights tend not to blind you by illuminating stuff in the foreground. One time I was magdumping on a large herd of wild pigs while out in the cow pasture, after the first two shots, I couldn't see anything. The more I shoot at night, the more important this feature is to me.

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      perhaps, could rig up something like a x600v with rotating heads.
      Im not sure it's really needed tho. The LEP beam is so tight/niche that almost no one would buy that.

    • @highdesertdrew1844
      @highdesertdrew1844 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@BrassFacts I use it for taking longer range shots looking through optics. Trying to light up stuff at 4-600 yards the spill in the foreground just makes it really hard to see the further targets.

    • @TheMsdos25
      @TheMsdos25 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Weltool has an LEP head with some degree of flood. The Rein 3.0 has impressive range even though it's not an LEP

    • @rondobrondo
      @rondobrondo 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@highdesertdrew1844 Dude, I have just the thing for you. Look up "Z-Bolt LED & LEP DUAL Body Weapon Light," or "DUAL Body LEP & Infrared Weapon Light" or "DUAL Body LED & Infrared Weapon Light", and also "BLAZER Zero - Click Adjustable Picatinny Mount".
      This is the answer you are looking for. this allows you to actually USE an LEP light in a way that makes sense. Cause now you have a way to zero everything up so that the LEP actually is just a big active aiming solution. imagine looking through your scope with your LED light and your LEP running, and you literally draw a big circle of light around your target with a big dot in the middle -- it's like you've made an Eotech reticle in real life

  • @tat2erik
    @tat2erik 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looking forward to the Cloud vs Surefire vid

  • @rondobrondo
    @rondobrondo 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It may be big, but it's not heavy

  • @wildcat8598
    @wildcat8598 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Unless I need an IR head I’ll stick with the Pro Tac considering I can get 3 for the price of a Surefire.

  • @Eclipse_Armory
    @Eclipse_Armory 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The surefire turbo is akin to that one scene from the SpongeBob movie. “MY EYES”

  • @YourFavoriteLibertarian
    @YourFavoriteLibertarian 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had nothing but issues with their dual fuel technology. CR123A'S would work, but 18650 was d cell Maglite dim. I made a video about it, and every comment was about how other people had similar experiences or issues with flickering. No apologies. No recalls. Just "wait a few months for replacement parts, but first you have to send us your faulty light to prove we made a crap product." Months later, I got my replacement, and after testing it, sold it.
    Never trusting Surefire again. It would be 1 thing if they admitted the technology wasn't ready and talked about what improvements they made to fix it, but they basically talked about this massive widespread problem with their lights like it was just a 1 off isolated incident.
    Super shady.

  • @PracticalTacticalSheepDog
    @PracticalTacticalSheepDog 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never had issues with arisaka bodies in combination malkoff heads.

  • @dcentral
    @dcentral 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The original SF R&D team under their legendary chief engineer P.K. no longer work there for over a decade. The new young team now are struggling to find themselves and create products that used to propel SF above its competition.

  • @doublepiedavid8908
    @doublepiedavid8908 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What an interesting scope mount. I wonder if there’s gonna be a review on it

  • @BlueLoneWolf54
    @BlueLoneWolf54 ปีที่แล้ว

    Elbow Grease is the reference, Muscle Grease is a product -_-. Though I do like the use of the term 'flextillion'.

    • @rondobrondo
      @rondobrondo 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      no it's not 'flextillion', he's calling them 'flextilians' like reptiles who mindlessly focus on flexing. like the joke about the US government being run by an ancient 'reptilian' species. It's not literally a reference to that either tho; just that calling people reptiles or talking about people only using their 'reptilian brain', i.e. the very primitive and evolutionarily 'ancient' parts of the human brain that have analogues in other animals, including reptiles. Humans have parts of the brain that other mammals do not, and mammals have parts of the brain that ancient reptiles like alligators or crocs do not.
      EX: All these goddamn flextilians are driving up the price of these weapon lights even tho they should all cost half the price, but they don't because gun people will buy anything if you tell them they don't value their life otherwise

  • @DMS1791
    @DMS1791 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonder if you’d ever build out an AR-RPK and talk about the practicality/use of one for a civilian defense team

  • @Mac-mx8qq
    @Mac-mx8qq 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Any issues with your DS00 and your turbo? Just bought one and it won’t work for mine, paranoid I got a clone. Seems like every pic I see had different tread.