Mazda and Ford shared the same 2.3 litre engine in that time. I recently sold my MPS after having owned it for 15 years with no reliability issues. They are actually quite reliable. Honestly, it's an underrated car that is almost 20 years old, so it's no more of a time bomb than any other turbo 4 getting to that age. Thanks for the review.
This is a 100% Mazda engine and was never fitted in this form to any Ford (or any other brand) vehicle. The newest Ecoboost engines are based on this because somehow ford managed to get all the patents on this engine when they divorced back in 2010-2012, based on the fact that it was built on the Duratec block template. However, the only parts that fit from the Ecoboost to 2.3DISI-T are the crankshaft (without the balance shaft though) and the oil pump (and with some clever mix of parts also some timing parts).
I have seen a substantial amount of both the Mazda 3 and 6 MPS for sale that either require a rebuild or have had an engine rebuild. Perhaps standard they may be ok however they don't take kindly to modification, and certainly not as robust as the 90's JDM era engines.
@@gavinr9107 That is because of the factory recommended oil which was chosen to get the best emissions possible. They recommended the same oil in the RX8s, as well as 1.3-2.5 NA engines. At least the 2.3DISI-Ts held better than the rotaries with that joke of an oil...
@@mituc I forget what oil they recommend in the TSB? My stock block 6 has all the bolt ons besides mani's, with a hdi gt2 front mount, dm catch can, trilogy mounts and TD05. I run Motul Xcess 5w-40 since I'm catless. Heard its a good choice and stopped my p0012 timing over retarded issues so far. that code was plaguing me after i had this new engine installed but now it seems good.
The i30 N (hatch, sedan, fastback) and Sonata N Line are the modern day FWD torque steer monsters. Honda Civic Type R has been around for a millenia so everyone knows what that is. Mazda advertised the heck out of this when they first dropped, 2.3L turbo with 190kW and 380Nm doing 0-100 in 6.1 secs.
6.1 with 190kw wasn't bad back in the day. That was considered insanely fast when it first came out but my current car with 153kw does 0-100 in 6.3 seconds and that is very very fast considering it only has 153kw and 280nm. Can't deny the Hyundai hot hatches are fast and have a lot of torque steer but these days torque steers is managed a lot better by all the diffs and suspension kits these cars come out of the factory with.
Had one of these myself with basically everything i could do besides the port injection and jmf manifold like this one. Mine was making around 230fwkw. Alot of people will hate on fwd but with how raw these feel once modded they'll 100% bring a smile to your face. These are imo a proper drivers car, you have to physically drive the thing and not just sunday drive it lol. Kudos to the owner and another wicked review man, good to see alot of females cars getting featured!
I brought one new in 2008,got it tuned only and it produced 184 front wheel kw and 450nm awesome car,3rd gear you really felt that power come in. I also had coilovers and torque steer was pretty much gone,wish i still had it.
What a cool & fast little hatch mate & going by your reaction it's definitely fun to drive,also a sheila owns it nice you should of had her on as well,anyway another great review thanks Johnny.
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I have 2 of these cars, a daily driver, sitting at around 240-250kw atw and a fully built track car, sitting at 420-430kw atw on pump gas and just over 500kw atw on e85. To be honest, the daily driver is more fun and still really fast. The track car is scary and too much for New Zealand roads😂
Not many people know about using the 2.5 Bottem end and using the turbo diesel gearbox , theyll do 350km/h with 450hp to push it . Ive got a fleet of them .
There are a fair few around. I think you probably just dont see them because they sorta hide as a hatch. I remember when i was a mechanic, a customer had one and i took it for a road test. First generation, had it tuned and so on, on stock wheels and tyres. Thirds gear when the boost came on, it almost pulled me over two lanes of traffic. They were a pretty potent car stock.
I have the same feeling in my ST on E30 - stock turbo so the torque is just ridiculous. Baby turbo though it's roughly 300fwhp and 570nm. I used to have an upgraded turbo 6MPS with 328awhp, that was good fun, and a good sleeper to boot
I love these Mazdas and i wanna get one but have to be careful on the second hand market with JDM cars because they will need alot of work and they have high ks and been thrashed. But i prefer the Sedan in mazda MPS because of the rear look but hatches are very practical. aswell
I have driven this but I think now that I’m older I would prefer the Mazda 6 MPS so you can launch harder at the lights. Don’t really care for semi slicks and speeding now
No stress!! This is my car I only got it a couple months ago but I'm a spray painter so once I find the time whole front end is getting a respray. Bonnet drives me nuts 🤣
@@Tiarnasmith is a nice car mate, the car detailer and part time spray painter in me was dying a little inside haha. The paint and car be in your good hands then, so stoked for that!
This Was when Ford Owned Mazda and Volvo. The Engine Is Volvo Engine, it's The 4 Cylinder 16v 2.3 Block which was in the Volvo. Its Known as The Red Block Came in 8v and 16v versions. it was the last Volvo Engine to be 4 Cylinder with 16v Head. The head casting design was done by cosworth for the touring car BTCC Season before the 5cylinder 2.3 & 2.5 that was in later Volvo's and Fords when Ford Sold there shares in Mazda, Mazda stopped making performance hot hatches. 👍👍
the motors aren’t that bad when maintained, can abuse them quite a bit if done right, problem is there cheap now and people abuse them, don’t maintain it and mod it wrong
great power and torque but stupid stupid absolutely dangerous amounts of torque steer. I had a Golf GTI Edition 35 ad a RenaultSport Magane 275 and neither of them had nearly as much torque steer. Those cars were a blast to drive
Excepting a couple of models like the Miata and BT50 - and some long out of production models like the RX's, Mazda platforms are all FWD or FWD biased AWD.
It's not torque steer, it's lane change assist.
These cars didn't have this feature.
@@nzmarco no shit it’s a joke
@@nzmarco dumb ass lol
🤣 love that!!
Mazda and Ford shared the same 2.3 litre engine in that time. I recently sold my MPS after having owned it for 15 years with no reliability issues. They are actually quite reliable. Honestly, it's an underrated car that is almost 20 years old, so it's no more of a time bomb than any other turbo 4 getting to that age. Thanks for the review.
This is a 100% Mazda engine and was never fitted in this form to any Ford (or any other brand) vehicle. The newest Ecoboost engines are based on this because somehow ford managed to get all the patents on this engine when they divorced back in 2010-2012, based on the fact that it was built on the Duratec block template. However, the only parts that fit from the Ecoboost to 2.3DISI-T are the crankshaft (without the balance shaft though) and the oil pump (and with some clever mix of parts also some timing parts).
I have seen a substantial amount of both the Mazda 3 and 6 MPS for sale that either require a rebuild or have had an engine rebuild. Perhaps standard they may be ok however they don't take kindly to modification, and certainly not as robust as the 90's JDM era engines.
@@gavinr9107 That is because of the factory recommended oil which was chosen to get the best emissions possible. They recommended the same oil in the RX8s, as well as 1.3-2.5 NA engines. At least the 2.3DISI-Ts held better than the rotaries with that joke of an oil...
@@mituc ahh ok fair enough that explains it.
@@mituc I forget what oil they recommend in the TSB? My stock block 6 has all the bolt ons besides mani's, with a hdi gt2 front mount, dm catch can, trilogy mounts and TD05. I run Motul Xcess 5w-40 since I'm catless. Heard its a good choice and stopped my p0012 timing over retarded issues so far. that code was plaguing me after i had this new engine installed but now it seems good.
The i30 N (hatch, sedan, fastback) and Sonata N Line are the modern day FWD torque steer monsters.
Honda Civic Type R has been around for a millenia so everyone knows what that is.
Mazda advertised the heck out of this when they first dropped, 2.3L turbo with 190kW and 380Nm doing 0-100 in 6.1 secs.
6.1 with 190kw wasn't bad back in the day. That was considered insanely fast when it first came out but my current car with 153kw does 0-100 in 6.3 seconds and that is very very fast considering it only has 153kw and 280nm. Can't deny the Hyundai hot hatches are fast and have a lot of torque steer but these days torque steers is managed a lot better by all the diffs and suspension kits these cars come out of the factory with.
I love the i30n.. hot hatches are fun
Is that your trivia 🤷♂️
Had one of these myself with basically everything i could do besides the port injection and jmf manifold like this one. Mine was making around 230fwkw. Alot of people will hate on fwd but with how raw these feel once modded they'll 100% bring a smile to your face. These are imo a proper drivers car, you have to physically drive the thing and not just sunday drive it lol. Kudos to the owner and another wicked review man, good to see alot of females cars getting featured!
My wife had one for 10 years, was very reliable and always fun to drive
👀 damn got a good one I guess 😅
my wife has a bl luxury mps as a daily. super fun car and been very reliable.
Good to hear!
I brought one new in 2008,got it tuned only and it produced 184 front wheel kw and 450nm awesome car,3rd gear you really felt that power come in. I also had coilovers and torque steer was pretty much gone,wish i still had it.
Good fun cars! That’s probably a lot more usable power 👍
Not the hugest fan of Mazda's but I do love the MPS models... Quite an underated and unique hot hatch here in Australia...
Was pretty fun to drive too
Contender for my favourite sounding 4cyl, and looks great too.
They’re fairly common around Brisbane
Hell Nah subarus,evos and ford focus sound way better 👌
As I said, just a contender.
If I had to pick I’d say EJ25 sounds #1
I’ll have to see if I can spot any while I’m there next week
@@RossReviewsauI’ve got a nicely modded 6 in Brisbane. Worthy of a review for sure😛😛😛
Every man and his dog has one of these over here in NZ, you see them daily
Choice
Yup plenty in Hamilton too
Hamilton Owner 🙋 unfortunately mines parked up with a blown bottom end 😢 will be back better than ever tho
NZ got the goods bro 😮💨
Lucky there not a 4wd otherwise you also have to be careful of their 'glass transmission like the gt-x
just bought 1 yesterday 2007 and wow, soooo much fun!
Enjoy!
What a cool & fast little hatch mate & going by your reaction it's definitely fun to drive,also a sheila owns it nice you should of had her on as well,anyway another great review thanks Johnny.
Definitely surprised me with that FWD power! It’s a handful
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My ex had one. I use to leave my XR6T at home and take the MPS much to her disgust. Awesome little cars!
They are fun 🤩
You can fix the torque steer by using the gen 2 BL crossmember and lower control arms and 3 bolt steering rack
Not gonna lie Australia / Western Australia had a fair amout of these cars and i absolutely love them
They all must have blown up 🤣 I don’t see many 😅
My nephew had one, did a bunch of mods , really nice and quite different, went very well.
Thanks for sharing
Great review, really like these cars, I love the sleeper aspect of the Gen1's, the gen2 is a cool car too but I don't love the styling!
glad you enjoyed the review
I have 2 of these cars, a daily driver, sitting at around 240-250kw atw and a fully built track car, sitting at 420-430kw atw on pump gas and just over 500kw atw on e85. To be honest, the daily driver is more fun and still really fast. The track car is scary and too much for New Zealand roads😂
That’s insane! What a handful that must be mare
I have a BK Mps also! My bf has a XR6T mate has a Maloo and they jump at the chance to take the Mazdrdy for a drive because it's so fun 🎉
I live in the Huntervalley New South Wales and there’s a few around I see quite a lot of them get around love the channel💯👍
Thanks mate! Cheers for the comment
Not many people know about using the 2.5 Bottem end and using the turbo diesel gearbox , theyll do 350km/h with 450hp to push it . Ive got a fleet of them .
_cool review Ross, love these different cars_ 😁👍🏼
Me too!
There are a fair few around. I think you probably just dont see them because they sorta hide as a hatch. I remember when i was a mechanic, a customer had one and i took it for a road test. First generation, had it tuned and so on, on stock wheels and tyres. Thirds gear when the boost came on, it almost pulled me over two lanes of traffic. They were a pretty potent car stock.
Another amazing video from the Great One … thank you brother 🙏
Glad you enjoyed it
I have the same feeling in my ST on E30 - stock turbo so the torque is just ridiculous. Baby turbo though it's roughly 300fwhp and 570nm.
I used to have an upgraded turbo 6MPS with 328awhp, that was good fun, and a good sleeper to boot
About time you did an mps drive its the little Barra
Ive got a fleet of AU's and a fleet od MPS's thete truly awesome cars
The 2.5 bottem end from the mazda 6 GH and sp25 will take 460hp un opened , I liken them to being a 4 cyl barra
I love these Mazdas and i wanna get one but have to be careful on the second hand market with JDM cars because they will need alot of work and they have high ks and been thrashed. But i prefer the Sedan in mazda MPS because of the rear look but hatches are very practical. aswell
Friend had one just stock. But felt fast in the back seat. Be crazy thing. Thanx
would u prefer the xr5 or this
mazda hands down, ford interior build quality doesn't even compare. XR5 is like a yaris. Cheap shit
Coming from an ST owner it depends how much you prefer the 5pot sound. Both cars are basically even when FBO and tuned
Probably xr5
Nice little build, I noticed the speedo went to 280 lol,I wouldn’t wanna be in it at that speed 😅
Would be terrifying
Hard to find a good one that hasn't been modded , and with that power it should easily shred the tyres in 3rd and even 4th
It would 👀
I'm guessing the pod filter is for noise only. Why not finish it off with heat deflection!? Massive heat sink factor right there
Funny looking G6E.
Ikr 😅
@@RossReviewsau i sure miss that clean FG
As an owner of one of these, I will agree about the torque steer😂. Mine is 400whp so I’m sure it will only get worse as the power grows
I like torque steer 😅 but yeh they fight you with these cars
I might put a turbo in my vz ss
Mps was amazing just hated how cheap the interior was compared to the astra H 2.0t and Golf 5 gti of the time
I used to have one of these there awesome cars
Was a lot of fun on the road
I have driven this but I think now that I’m older I would prefer the Mazda 6 MPS so you can launch harder at the lights. Don’t really care for semi slicks and speeding now
This definitely is for someone who always wants to go fast 🤣 can’t drive this slow
yeah lmao. 23 and my 6 has got me into a shit ton of trouble. but yes good fun to dsc off and punch it on red lights hahaha
really need to fix that paint on the bonnet before it gets any worse! Awesome car though
No stress!! This is my car I only got it a couple months ago but I'm a spray painter so once I find the time whole front end is getting a respray. Bonnet drives me nuts 🤣
@@Tiarnasmith is a nice car mate, the car detailer and part time spray painter in me was dying a little inside haha. The paint and car be in your good hands then, so stoked for that!
She’s a spray painter she will take care of it one day 👌
I liken it to driving my xu1 torana its like an animal .
Even built, you can drive these normally and you wouldn't know it's a monster. I have an 08
This Was when Ford Owned Mazda and Volvo. The Engine Is Volvo Engine, it's The 4 Cylinder 16v 2.3 Block which was in the Volvo. Its Known as The Red Block Came in 8v and 16v versions. it was the last Volvo Engine to be 4 Cylinder with 16v Head. The head casting design was done by cosworth for the touring car BTCC Season before the 5cylinder 2.3 & 2.5 that was in later Volvo's and Fords when Ford Sold there shares in Mazda, Mazda stopped making performance hot hatches. 👍👍
Do WRX Hatch
Kida sounds like a vibrating can at a high rpm
Should come check out my Lil monster 450 kw sti if you like your noisy angry turbo weapons
Damn that’s not little 🤣🔥
Only 1500 came to Australia
the motors aren’t that bad when maintained, can abuse them quite a bit if done right, problem is there cheap now and people abuse them, don’t maintain it and mod it wrong
These things shine 80-120
How would you guys react when you see a Ford falcon with anime character on it 😂❤
If it had the turbo diesel 6 speed
1st 66
2nd 108
3rd 174
4 th 226
5th 282
6th 350
RHD 🤙🤙
Now you'll only find them in a awd mum bus :/
That didn't look anything like 250fwkw.
One of the worst cars I've driven torque steer makes the steering feel absolutely horrible
great power and torque but stupid stupid absolutely dangerous amounts of torque steer. I had a Golf GTI Edition 35 ad a RenaultSport Magane 275 and neither of them had nearly as much torque steer. Those cars were a blast to drive
@@blann65 Yeah stage 2 gtis definitely have torque steer but nothing as bad
I like torque steer in a hot hatch but that’s me 🤣
this will be so much better if it wasn't fwd
good comment if it was 2005
@@dw2176 huh
Nah love fwd hot hatch
You always seem to throw up cars that I’ve looked at in the past. The 6MPS was very much on the cards for awhile there
250000yen with 270000km in Japan, not that rare
Fwd? I always thought they were RWD
Excepting a couple of models like the Miata and BT50 - and some long out of production models like the RX's, Mazda platforms are all FWD or FWD biased AWD.
😂😂😂