The LGBT influencers facing arrest in Saudi Arabia • The Observers - France 24
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- Under Saudi Arabia's restrictive cybercrime laws, even makeup tutorials or behaviour suggesting same-sex attraction can lead to arrest. Suhail al Jameel's photo on Twitter got him charged with sharing nudity online. TikToker Tala Safwan posted a conversation with a female friend and was accused of “suggestiveness that could have a negative impact on public morality". And Mohamad al Bokari was convicted of promoting homosexuality online and “imitating women”. Our Observer is a Saudi activist living in exile in the US. He told us more about how these LGBT influencers face danger and arrest by sharing their identities online.
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Saudi Arabia: "men can only hang out with men and women can only hang out with women."
Saudi when folks are gay: "😲 "
Because you are stupid, we follow the religion and do not become gay, and basically there are no gays in Saudi Arabia, even though we hang out with men🤣
There are difference between wanting to hangout and wanting to have a sexual intercourse retard
Unless it’s a mahram
They mean that you shouldn't hang out with the opposite gender if you're still young bevause it can make you commit zina
I’m a man and I hang out only with men yet I still have attraction to women
These comments ain't it
@Pie N' Apple the homophobia is clear
@@samshankar9413 there should be more homophobia
These comments are cool
@Pie N' Apple I thought islam was a "peaceful" religion
@@samshankar9413 ye it is just want more humans
I do not care what others think.i psy taxes,i am a adult, i bust my but offv15 hours day to pay gov criminal now so i will dress gay.My body my life.
He's lucky they didn't execute him immediately
he’s risking his life! He’s so lucky
Is that shade??
@Luis Santos nah
Yes he is lucky to be alive
Sorry, God’s plan😊
It is sad that this still happens in 2024 but I am impressed with the middle east and how some lands have been moving in the direction of equal rights and human rights for every one.
No thank you that harem in our religion keep you humanity for yourself you westren
Wait what what is 800 lashes please tell me😟
I live in the Czech Republic, I don't go to the Middle East, I am not able to judge it from the point of view of another culture.
During the time of socialism, guys with long hair were terribly persecuted by the regime, they had their hair cut by force. Today, he wears them regularly, everything is fine, they still retain their masculinity. Finally, throughout history, people have also worn them.
But what surprises me much more here is that every now and then I meet an older woman who has, for example, a great figure, clothes, everything. She is cut short, has white hair, often has facial features like a man. If I didn't have a dress or a ring, sometimes I wouldn't even recognize that it was a woman, once there was an embarrassment when I addressed her as sir.
Really, in Czechslovakian Socialist Republic people prosecuted by regime and long hair were cut by force? Do you have any proof-links of that. I remember some Czhechslovakian pop singers like Irzhi Korn and Karel Gott. Irzhi Korn always sang with long blond hair and nobody cut them.
bahaha he went to california state university they do what they were dealing with
Lgbtq: 🤮
Saudi Arabia: 😎🗿🔥
they can go to Canada or to US you can take them
immigration is still pretty tight, I am lead to believe
@@dotsdot5608 ok send them to Uganda
Canada really gotta start treating gay people like this
@@real_FOOTBALL10 nah they wont they are weak,
@@locopoko6781 true
1:25 He is cute 🥺🥰
Anyways it's bad to punish someone for being homosexual something that's not in their control..
Now you confirmed it for me, Shia aren't Muslim
@alhashemi. Lol like it's a bad thing. Mohammed married a 6 year old and had sex with her when she was 9. He was a racist. He sold tens of thousands of innocent people to slavery and killed/ordered the deaths of even more people. The average Iranian is a lot more intelligent, open minded and decent than the average Saudi. Boggles my mind how the West are "allied" with the backwards Wahabists of Saudi Arabia over Persians
You're actually a Muslim?
if he said i need to cure ok
Saudi on TOP 🔥🔥🔥
Disgusting
Scary…. But those people are brave.. they have balls to do this kinda stuff
Certainly they don't Co they won't be gay then 🤡
@@safiazad2865 does doing whatever you wanna do has limits ? Or like western democracy it will lead you do Nashville school shooting ?
@@safiazad2865 I’m pretty sure they kill gay people there and even gay teens
@@safiazad2865 Nop, the people are conservative
@@safiazad2865Saudi people are conservative. Lol do you live under a rock? I’ve been there and I’ve seen how they live. The ABCD community is allowed to visit as long as they don’t advertise themselves! Don’t get the wrong idea that they will ever be able to act as they do in the west. Not sure this is ever going to happen.
الحمدالله على نعمة الأسلام
Alhmmmdd indeed
For arrest LGBT ?
حياتي محمد تزوج بنت التسع سنين، لا نعمة ولا شي و هاد الشذوذ مو الغاي.
@@tottui15yes the best thing
It’s simply a fascist religion
Saudi Arabia = Sigma 😯🙂😁
This is why Biden decided to buy our gas from them. Truly based society
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What is sigma?
Me: Saudi Arabia
Thank you bro
I wish you to lose your civil rights.
Stfu ur not different u aren’t funny and u r a sad little boy
Yes
what
STAY STRONG SAUDI ARABIA!
As an Iraqi I support saudi Arabia
How would u feel if u got arrested and abused for who u love?
I wouldn't take it personally as the gig is over.
Now the flip question, it is the same as asking, "How would you feel if you got despised for liking your sister?"
Unfortunately, a critical element on the topic would be, "Is there limits to love?" The answer is yes.
The subject of a controversial topic is regarding its normality and purpose to which it is abnormal as I also go for opposite gender relationships, barriers are to be established but same gender relationships going further to physical contact is all but abnormal as in nature no matter the view, overall an abnormal occurrence.
Animals in specific species engage in same gender relationships"
To which partially physical contact is usually established. But again, animals do not think or follow a set of code/morals except following impulses without thought or question unlike us humans.
With the last remnants of people going against this alien ideology, modern day still strives to gain a full support on this topic.
You can simply google this and get full-on results from so called, "Research and news outlets" but they are unfortunately under peer pressure from wokeist America which brings on unquestionable support for this community which leaves even no capacity to even question OR think.
It is universally agreed, that in order to appease the majority, the minority is forced to go along with majority to avoid fights and finally, giving in to the wants of said rival groups. A perfect example is the effect of Tik-Tok
Creators utilize this app as it becomes more popular and as money is sought after, switching platforms are the best thing to maintain relevancy without sacrificing anything.
Democracy is not called a democracy without oppositions, otherwise it is a dictatorship.
Scoring over 97% Political and Social Science British Curriculum, and I can go in the side of these laws as not only does same gender relationships is not only against moral values and self respect, but it undermines societal norms.
Nations such as 1930s Germany, 1900s US, Middle Eastern Countries, Central Asian Nations such as Turkmenistan and more, placed a ban on this as it was against traditional norms which were then normalized with repeated campaigns to get a majority to support without any reasoning other than, "This is against human rights", "Love is love", "It is part of nature"
We are now following and being sheep without a reason just following around the normality of today's world brought on by social media.
Either you listen or there is no hope for humanity as a whole without any self- thinking capacity
@@RexRight chuslim country🤮🤮
@@xiaozihuangyt3439 no one is reading that cope, dawg
800 lashes?
If Saudi Arabia don't allow it stay like that. If you're gay and you cannot leave the country, be single for the rest of your life and hide it.. Better than getting locked in prison.
Just migrate countries. You shouldn't be forced to listen to a government that wants to eliminate people from being themselves
0:17 Lies!
Me and my friends all have pictures like this. Actually everyone does! Nobody got arrested because of it. Liars!
If this person got arrested for nudity, then it means ACTUAL NUDITY.
Don’t lie!!! It was not this picture that got him arrested.
if it was me, I'd have u arrested and flogged and if not apologetic beheaded too, u majoosi yahud s.o.b
يا خوي انت نشرت الصورة في مواقع التواصل الاجتماعي
800 lashes? WOW! Can that be survived?
yeah over a spread amount of time (3 years)
Just wait until you see yemen and Afghanistan
ITS HARAAM
Haram is made up of
Who gives a crap?
What you're supporting is haram
To your beliefs. Who cares?
Saudi Much Respect
Based
Yep based country.
Based
Lol you say that from Afghanistan? Lol literally the biggest dumpster fire of a country on Earth
Suahel is already out
Respect 🫡 to the kingdom of saudi arabia ❤️
Adam & eva
that's a guy??
Saudi Arabia ❌
Sigma Arabia✅
Saudi is an Islam country if you want to be gay just go to west it's super disrespectful to them just respect saudi🇸🇦🇸🇦🇸🇦
Your insensitivity is disgusting, do you realize how hard it is to leave a country? To leave everything behind? How painful it is for your family and friends and everyone you know to despise you for the crime of being YOU? You don't understand what the nightmare of growing up queer in an Arab country is like. Shut up.
@@Venus-kx9hfno
how can you just go to a western country it’s harder than just saying that
@@rhyxv you gay cuz hahaha
@@subtome3118 that so childish grow up you can’t take nothing serious so stfu
W saudi
F*ck Saudi. But even more, f*ck Iran's crappy regime.
W Saudi Arabia
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W indeed 🗿😎
My form Bangladesh and i work Saudi Arabia i love L G B he men do you love me 💋💋❤️❤️🥰🥰🥰🥰
The sad the sad thing is that this guy Abdulrahman, the one the channel hosted to speak on the case, could do a lot of work for the LGBTQ communities in Saudi Arabia and the Middle East, but he has chosen to be a clown on TikTok and get blindsided by the fame and clout the confrontational and inflammatory stuff he keeps saying gets him from social media.
It's sad to see people being manipulated by lies on both sides of the story😢!
W saudi stay halal i live Saudi Arabia
Respect!!
@@blackinton2526 who is jealous??
By your logic , I can say respect to countries that don't have female rights?
Long Live Saudi Arabia
Haiii❤❤
So true
Yes, Saudi Arabia is right. Why an other country will blindly follow west. West can't impose to other countries what they follow.
Transphobic is purely a western invention.
But you want to impose us the respect of your religion, when the Koran was burned in Sweden Muslims protested
No, it's not the "West" that is imposing anything. Plenty of homossexual people out there in the East too. Haven't you heard about Moroccan, Thai, Chinese, Filippino, and Indian gay people? They're everywhere. Not to mention Latin America, which as far as I know is not considered Western. So the west has nothing to do with men who love men.
Human rights aren’t western values
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YEA BABY LET'S GO STAY STRONG SAUDI ARABIA🇸🇦
Jewish username aka bot
Muslim fake, there is alot gay men in the closet, rapeing kids!!
تلال سافوان
Father: ASTAGHFIRULLAH SON, Take that DISGUSTING flag down now!
Son: Shut up dad! you can't tell me what to do!
Son on execution day: well would you look at that, he really can tell me what to do..
You watched oversimplified bro? 😎
Sigma Saudi 🍷🗿
Cringe kiddo
@@blueischiii1575keep crying
@@gnrtx-36969 Keep complaining.
@@blueischiii1575 at least I'm not crying like you👽
@@gnrtx-36969 Then why are you still responding?
They must take this seriously I am noticing that Saudi is easing up for gays and this will only create problems.
They are not taking it seriously! Saudi Arabia! Doesn’t joke about gays and stuffs they kill them and put to death!
R u Muslim
LOL
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all arabs gay gay saudi king...
@@sigmaupsilon3768 suck your mum
@@sigmaupsilon3768 🤡
@@sigmaupsilon3768 sjut up bro bro
@@sigmaupsilon3768 come to Riyadh habibi😘
I wouldn’t want these laws in my country, but why prance about on social media when you know your country doesn’t tolerate promotion of homosexuality? Seems idiotic. Saudis are some of the nicest people I have met. 🇺🇸
I guess the idea is to try and persuade people. Trying to persuade public opinion is more effective than persuading your government
Nicest people?? Wth… they probably killed the kid just for posting a few photos and videos in makeup
@@luissantos1801 if the law don’t kill him l will kill him Law is law
Respect their culture, do not push your agenda on people.
@@luissantos1801 There are laws and unless you don't believe in laws you would not dare to break them.
W
He is not
Based 😂😂
Saudi Arabia a chad. Respect their rules it’s not like they are telling the US and Uk to do it so leave them be.🇸🇦🤜🏳️🌈🗿.
NO, THIS IS PERSECUTION AND AGAINST HUMAN RIGHTS.
Go to the fire
Go to the gay parties 😂
Muslims are so fanatics😂😂😂
Muslims are so Anti Sodomy fr😘
@@lala9237 you are the third world (im not a gay)
Over
If acting like normal human beings with functioning brains makes us fanatics, then so be it🙄
@@Khattab511 i'm not gay but people must be free, say hello to your imaginary friend
Here's something else I don't understand... I am gay. I am a man that likes men, but why do many gay men act like women?? I absolutely avoid femme gay guys. If I want man, I want a real man, not a man in a dress. Suhail's judgement was just as immature as his behavior. He went back to Saudi Arabia and thought his LGBT-fantasy life in California would continue in the kingdom. That's just ignorant. There are plenty of gays in the Muslim world. It is a very closed group, and very discrete - but there are a lot of gay men and they are not celibate.
Thank you for your respect.
I dont have any problem with gay but the lgbtq yes !
Im sick of them trying to push their agenda into us.
And its interesting that as a gay man you dont find that normal they act like women I had this conversation so many time
Even some gay men I know dont like feminine men.
Feminine gay men like straight men
They do that for hetero men not gay men , IAM a feminine gay and heterosexual men adore me
In the UK we have a problem. Straight men putting on dresses and wigs claiming to be women and using womens changing rooms and trying to go into female prisons. A lot of women are saying it infringes on our rights to safety and dignity. The men call themselves Transwomen.
@Levent.A. Nah you just surround yourself with other fgts
Don’t ever come to the Middle East please😊
He i love old men ❤❤❤xxxxxxx
He went to California 💀now it all makes sense.Poor boy got infected
Çok begendim
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الله يشفي كل مريض لكن علينا نتمسك بالله ونعمل كل مالدينا اعتقد بسبب الأطعمة المصنعة والعلاجات او معاملة المرأة جنينها كفتاه وهو في بطنها فهذا ممكن احتمال قالت عنه الدكتورة منى الغريب رحمة الله عليها
That's the fight America should spread their democracy seasons on, spare Africa.
Nah we don’t want it. Keep your degeneracy in your country.
Move to Uganda, they're the real deal.
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Astagfirullah
Upyourassullah
that chick got big eyes
because thats Saudi Arabian physical features.
Harassment I call it order
W SAUDI ARABIA
@@WhiskArlingtonlmao you act like angry 5yo
@@WhiskArlingtonma boy its isn't your country to cry about we have religion and we put religious laws in our country if you want to be gay heck no go to Europe
@@WhiskArlington bro if they have GAY THOUGHTS they are okay but if they act on it then the sword im their neck and saudi arabia completely religious and take religion seriously and most of those news trying to distort saudi arabia pictures anddddd have a nice day
SHAME ON YOU
@@emanueledes7 they get offended over misgendering and almost everything.
Damn too much wokeism.
True
@@starinvader5969 False
We need to have this in america
We do not
leave america if you don't like it we wont miss you
Idk i feel like is already too late to save American because the president is just same as they
@@nutmatical1042 a sexual abnormality isn't a human right.
Do you realize what you're saying? Do you think before posting something on the Internet or do you just only mindlessly comment here? Arresting people for their sexuality is wild. And you're just an example of how homophobic people are wild and dumb. Homophobes scream about how gay people are bad and sinful, while ya'll are the only ones who spread hatred and violence. You're the problem
BASED SAUDI
on crap
None of these things have anything to do with homosexuality. I know plenty of Saudi people and they have no problem with who someone loves and wants to share their life with gay or straight. But they do have a problem with scantily people promoting any form of sexuality and with crossdressing. They believe men should be men and women should be women. There is space for transgendered people too, it’s a fact of nature. It’s the lewdness and vulgarity that they have a problem with. Many of my Saudi friends support marriage equality.
I guarantee to you in Saudi Arabia homosexual relationship are being seen as a sin and no one here promoting them . They have a serious problem with homosexuality because it's against their religion and since it's against their religion they don't want to accepted simple as that. I live in Saudi Arabia and I'm talking as a fact we don't accept homosexuality in general
@@hornerfarah2282 that’s the religious tyrants ruling that try to impose their ignorance on the people. I can assure you many do not accept their harmful and ignorant lies about homosexuality. I’ve seen it with my own eyes.
@@Mabeylater293 you understand that I'm from Saudi Arabia. And I'm talking behalf of my experience living here homosexuality are considering an extreme form of taboo among all people living here in saudi arabia. It's has nothing to do with religious tyranny and everything to do with their traditions and their values. Trying to promote homosexuality here Is Equivalent to trying to promote incest or paedophile In Western world. Majority of people who live in Saudi Arabia are religious so it's natural for them to be against things that is haram in islam. I never seen in my entire life living in Saudi Arabia someone who wanted to promote homosexuality among people in Saudi Arabia Not even once in my entire life.
@@hornerfarah2282 your experience seems sheltered within a religious minority that permeates your perception. I can assure you, that you are not representative of most Saudis as you may think. And the fact that you even compared it to incest and pedophilia is the ignorance that many Saudi’s I’ve witnessed refuse to even entertain. They see nothing that is a “value” and definitely not a “traditional value” in dehumanizing someone in the way that you just did. Those who do only have religion as their excuse for their appalling hatred. The Saudi’s I know have risen above that and are far more educated and informed.
@@hornerfarah2282 let me also add that you have A LOT to learn about the basic need in all humanity to be treated with love and respect for who you are. Religion and its man made BLASPHEMY has poisoned your humanity and those who think like you.
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At 00:20 he says “We made it”. You have no idea the weight of those words that you take for granted. And what’s worse is that the heartless forces that placed such an inhuman burden on something as fundamental as love came from people as ordinary as you.
Saudia arabia nots gays we are have Muslims in kaba in all 9T mulslime
🇸🇦 is a based country that will not accept the west way of Alphabet poltics
Will?
@@fornax5798 i meant to say will not, i fixed it
Is a stupid country
@@KaoriZusumiyayou talk like a caveman
@Samhmubro if muslims didn't exist then your dear phones and airplanes wouldn't exist too show some appreciation or stick in your western hole
You deserve more🤦♂️
your mom desirve getting rab'''' from me son of a ho'
You deserved more Bombs from Ukraine 😂
@@ITSTIME_FORYOU_TOWALK_THEPLANKjo
@@AhmadMuath-xn2es you realize that Putin bombed Syrians your Muslim brothers right? 🤦♂️
Follow the laws of the country you want to be in. Simple.
many of these people don’t want to be there!
@@cmgs7 I don't want to be in the US, but I follow the laws.
Bro some of us can't leave, I'm Syrian living in syria believe me when I say I wish I live in a western country, but is it so unfair to fight for my rights while I'm here? Is it so bad to want to be accepted as queer?
@@Venus-kx9hf Don't break the law and you will be fine.
@@WhiskArlington found the Karen.
Great to see that 👍👍👍
I know alot of Saudi. They just dont talk about. These kids need to stop exposing themselves
Astaghfirullah
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تالا صفوان 🤡
Im Bahrain
i cannot understand macgrabi but the intense cringe from when she tried to super pressure a girl to meet up with her that wasnt interested was insane around the 2:00 mark her little recruitment campaign got exposed its just so funny how girls try to act like men
First of all Sohail are released from the prison and now he is enjoying in his days in Saudi Arabia , and now he become a famous in a TikTok, secondly, the girl charged for sexual harassment and that illegal, First girl asked second girl to visit her house and second girl said to her its too late now and first girl said that it’s better at midnight cuz I can do whatever for you and no one will hear ur moan ! However the second girl is straight, that’s why gov charged her.
اجلد المخانيث👍🏻
Well done SA 🇸🇦🇸🇦🇸🇦
From now on you will only bring misfortune and suffering to everyone you love. This curse will only end when kindness and humanity enter your heart...
@@jayjaymiller3876 Do you think you can curse someone from an internet page? Look at you, I am a systems engineer. I have been working in the IT sector for 20 years and in my life I knew that this power existed. Now I am going to proceed to curse you for being a disgusting left-handed man who is guilty of the decline of the West, until you have conservative values, you will bring misfortune to all the species with which you surround yourself
@@jayjaymiller3876 aaa and another thing, I hope you are aware that I can trace your ip in a very simple way
Respect our filter and this is how should be nationwide u better tell Biden about this
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A message to the west please do not interfere with our laws and cultural
@@WhiskArlington I just said don't interfere
@@WhiskArlington if it doesn't effect on where you at why you cares ?
@@WhiskArlington you don't have right to impose your f__ki&' westernism upon Saudi Arabia. Keep your westernism in your land.
@@WhiskArlington S T F U. it will seem like lgbtqs are not harming anyone. Making them free will become a slow poison for the society. You don't know it's consequence cause you lack foresightedness. Get lost you bustard.
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This is coming no doubt to the US.
تحية إلى السعودية العظيمة من بنغلاديش 🇧🇩❤️🇸🇦 ، من البلدان القليلة اللي رفضت الانحلال الأخلاقي و القيم الغربية
Your government kills their citizens…. And you love them for that because your evil just like them
عن اي انحلال تتحدث؟ ويتم سجن انسان لان حركاته انثويه
@@lsl2 يا دعاة الانحلال تريدون الانحلال في ارض الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم
@@AA-dh5gt طيب رد على سؤالي اما الاتهام هذا والتخلف ماهو الا مهرب
@@lsl2 مايصير كذا الا بإبر استروجين، هو جابها لنفسه
It's A Muslim Nation What Do You Expect?!
That they leave islam? It would be a great idea.
why doesn't he go to the USA
I feel bad for them. 🫤
Hypocrisy.
LGBT -Respect our culture
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO OTHERS -DON'T IMPOSE YOUR CULTURE
@@Khan-xs3wc I know. 🙁
@@WhiskArlingtonbot
No
@@WhiskArlingtonbot
Seeing those influencers makes Government Position Justified
Such violent culture n barbaric people… so sad 😢
Literally religious country we value our culture if you want to be gay go to west we don't want you here budd
fake you none of your business
Religion can make some people very very cruel and heartless.. their brainwashed.. these religions extremists don’t understand the misery the cause
Religion is forced in many Islamic communities… their a very primitive government
Don’t let him out, he’s enjoying life in the prison
Keep arresting them!
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Atagfirullah remember sodome town
Atagfirullah up your assullah.
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But in reality
Saudi arabia is one of the top Gayst country😮
What a clear nonsense
Tf you talking about go there and do some sh*t you'll get executed
Keep lying to yourself, whatever helps you sleep at night gay kid
If you have guts go there and tell there openly.
@@jad45 being gay in saudi arabia takes hella ammount of courage
W Saudia Arabia 😎
SH*T
One of the Big Mouthing of LGBTQ+ community around social sphere was RESPECT. No more no less but a RESPECT.
At least, He Thought and Realized that First and foremost, RESPECT one's beliefs and.practices.
Respect begets Respect.