Well not exactly… by that logic you’re completely discounting multiplayer games, party games, etc. It is true that any game can be fun with friends but when done right some are still much better than others.
Hi, Ex Far Cry 5 dev here. I've always said it, we should be doing a Far Cry game with escape from tarkov gun modification system + difficulty of rainbow six/Tarkov. Then add this to a cool setting and we could do anything. Imo a grimdark setting would have been amazing. Problem is, Far Cry is a big IP, ubisoft doesn't want to risk it so they do the same thing over and over again, proof : All past 3 far cry's have a ''go burn this field there'' mission type. etc etc. Finally Ubisoft makes casual games, games that are a no brainer, a ''fun game''. So while all your points are valid, this isnt the way ubisoft works and design videogames.
That is sad to hear. When a great company like Ubisoft decides to take the safe and easy route of making a safe game instead of taking significant risks for the sake of great art like Farcry 2 and 3 was. Fantastic video games I will never forget.
One of my big issues that I didn't hear addressed is the tone. The situations in these games are pretty dark and serious. However they are then juxtaposed with wacky characters and even wackier animal companions. The series needs to lean more toward Far Cry 2 while also taking in some of your suggestions.
You should specify that you mean that it needs to lean more toward Far Cry 2 regarding tone and atmosphere, but _definitely_ not regarding gameplay mechanics.
The wacky companions was a huge turn off for me. I would prefer a more gritty realistic setting. Make fc7 realistic...or as close as possible. And a different developer and I'll buy it lol
@Violett Fem speak for yourself, I thought FC5 was hot trash. I've also played every Far Cry and DLC since FC2 though and have been yearning for something different since the release of FC4. Ubisoft has been releasing what feels to be the same FC game with a new coat of paint for years now, THATS BS.
15 hours playtime, i have only one suggestion for this beloved game: ⭐ Automatically loot all items materials in Enemy Basecamp right after players cleared it out. Looting in Ubisoft games is somewhat 🥵 So far i enjoyed the rest of the game. 🔥⭐🔥
I would absolutely love if they could bring Far Cry back to a more grounded realistic setting and theme like FC2. The juxtaposition between serious and funny just doesn't work. I feel like most people are bashing new FC games because there is a lack of innovation now for a few years, not because they are actually inherently bad games? Its just that if you played one, you have basically played them all.
Not gonna happen. That's how Ubisoft make their games nowadays. They milk the hell out of it, make it as long and as bland as possible it can be. Assassin's Creed falls into the same problem. It's not even the studio fault at this point. It's just Ubisoft in general dictating how every game should be.
It's not even FC2's setting that made it so innovative: it's how Ubisoft approached weapon jamming and companion relationships. It's almost unparalleled because no other developer does it anymore, which is a damn shame.
The problem for me with Ubisoft is that when they try something new and it’s successful, they quickly copy and paste it on the next game and not improve it. AC Origins, Odyssey, and Valhalla are the same game. So if they do a Far Cry refresh for 7 for example, I’ll bet that 8 and 9 will be the same as 7.
I have a hard time understanding the financial incentive. Surely they could make more money off a few really high-quality games instead of pumping out janky rehashes every year. Plenty of other publishers do it.
I would recommend almost any Ubisoft game to a new gamer. The problem isn’t so much the quality but the repetition. If you’ve played 25% of one Ubisoft game, you’ve pretty much played them all.
These games are vastly different even if they use the same formula. you're telling me AC Valhalla, Ghost Recon Breakpoint, and Far Cry 6 are the same game? not even close. don't get me started on other titles like the crew, for honour, and siege. All that aside, this applies to every single developer out there. A rockstar game certainly feels like a rockstar game. A Bethesda game feels like a Bethesda game. FromSoftware as well and so on. And that's part of the appeal of these games as well. It offers a new experience on a tried and true formula by a reputable studio. I don't know why Ubisoft gets singled out, they consistently release absolutely beautiful and entertaining titles with a lot to offer.
@@jeremydukes4228 Actually what the other user refers to, is that the mechanics of the entire saga of far cry is the same, far cry 5 is equal to 6, Assassin's creed 2 is equal to revelations, etc, etc.
@@ShrapnalInTheSky yes but that's what people expect from a series. The changed assassin's Creed and all the fans start bitching. they changed ghost recon and same deal. Fans literally expect the same mechanics from a saga. There's no winning, people complain about everything
@@ShrapnalInTheSky Also I've played every Far Cry and currently on FC6 and I can tell you there's many many difference. Even simple things such as the compass in 5 to the gps mini map in 6, the enemy clouds on the map from ghost recon, the lack of skill tree in 6, third person cutscenes and voiced protagonist, I noticed the guns handle slightly differently specifically the lmgs definitely feel heavier and less mobile, same with the vehicles- they feel heavier and more realistic than previous. Then there's obvious improvements like the massive increase of weapons and customization among other things. I'm only a couple hours into FarCry 6 so that's all I've noticed so far. but to say 5 is the same as 6 is just dumb af. if anything it feels more like a callback to FC3. Either way it's a new experience
@@jeremydukes4228 Obviously that far cry 6 is better than far cry 5 because it presents new features that previous deliveries do not, but the system is the same, same gameplay, the animations do not really change anything.it's like a fifa, I like the far cry and Assassin's creed saga but there are things that must be admitted, ubisoft recycles models and graphics engines.
Color coded traversal has been plaguing games (and open world titles in particular) for more than a decade. It removes any excitement and reward from figuring out an environmental puzzle. It's much tougher to design an intuitive world without such guidance, but it's a challenge I'd love to see developer approach.
Shadow of the Tomb Raider was the first modern game I've seen that allowed you to turn off the color-coded paint, and it was a real improvement. It still felt pretty simple to traverse, but instead of feeling like your hand was constantly being held, you'd have to actually look around and think!
@@DCXanatos This definitely needs to be an option to disable in games, I still found it very easy to solve puzzles with it off and was much more immersive without it
@@DCXanatos With how complicated and detailed game worlds have become, color coded spots have become a crutch that devs use because figuring out an environmental puzzle without any cues would be frustrating for most players. I think I've seen a Tomb Raider dev blog discussing this very topic. I remember turning the cues off in the last Tomb Raider game and you could still figure it out because it was still pretty obvious where you're supposed to go, most of the time due to the camera setup. Ghost of Tsushima is one of the few games that attempted a different way of approaching this problem.
When I first played Far Cry 2 I jad no idea that it would remain the most immersive game in the Far Cry series's. Please Xbox, please give Far Cry 2 FPS boost to 60.
Man. I long for a return to the immersive grittiness of 2. The fantastical elements like robot arms, rocket backpacks, and animal friends just seem like the wrong direction to me.
One thing they could do: STOP USING LEVEL GATING AS PROGRESSION. Stuff like enemy health bars or other RPG like elements work better in games that are either fantasy or sci-fi settings, NEVER in "real-world" titles. I still can't get into the Division because of this issue. If you push these systems, then your game better be more like the first one where it's a bonkers 80-90s action flick, and less in-yo-face realism. Farcry needs to be more immersive sim than RPG-lite. People want to discover and have fun. Not "grind" an activity for a stat point or custcene. Course, better scenario writing would also help too. Or maybe not pump so much into a story that you won't care about anyway, and focus on engaging gameplay more?
I strongly dislike that as well. From the short bit of the prologue I played last night before work today, I noticed enemies tank bullets. Even the basic ones. I found myself relying on my machete takedown for stealth. Health bars can be turned off which I already did, but they shouldn't be there in the first place either. Like you said, it isn't and RPG style game
LoL The Division's "empty an AK clip into an enemy's head to take away 1/10th of their healthbar because the weapon's level is too low" mechanics in a Tom Clancy game is definitely something that should not be emulated.
@@GnomeChompsky94 Clearly someone never put armor piercing bullets onto their firearm. I did that and I headshot literally every single enemy in the game no problem whatsoever while still maintaining stealth.
My dream Far Cry game: - Upgraded realism systems of Far Cry 2 - Designed from the foundations to be played without any HUD - Set in primeval/skull island location with dinosaurs So basically Far Cry 2 + Peter Jackson's King Kong: The Official Video Game of the Movie + Turok
I hope this game realistics like rdr2, better ragdoll physics, gore blood like rdr2, more npcs in the world, disable wall hack, clean hub, enemys better.
I really did like playing Far Cry 2 when it was a thing back then, but I've tried playing it again more recently and the driving and ridiculous amount of time I spent looking at a map got tedious. I would like to see far cry go back to some aspects of that style though. Thought it was pretty cool to have guns jam on you and the gun fights were pretty brutal. You didn't have a lot of spongey dudes in stupid amounts of armor. Everyone felt like they were desperate killers. As for the dinosaurs and skull island deal. There is a huge hole for that type of game for me. I'm 100 percent behind it haha. Peter Jackson's king kong the game has not been repeated for me that was a great game.
My disappointment with all Ubisoft games is that about the location. Hyping the game the location gets the most highlights. They went there, learned about the past, architecture, habits and all of that but when you play you are again in a sandbox with copy past location and what is there doesn't connect with the game. Take Ghost of Stushima, I felt being there. Not only the lick of paint but the relationships, culture and their relationship with nature are all an integral part of the gameplay and not only a pretty backdrop.
The assassin creed games have a lot of detail and actual history implemented. Since Origins they’ve had a free roam mode that tells you the history about the location you’re in.
"Press x simulator" I feel this one. I think it would be fine to just have most items scooped into your inventory like Doom or other FPS, anytime you get near a object you can take. edit: you were talking about a grappling hook & while I was watching your Review for FC6, I was like "FPS Just Cause would be interesting".
Ah yes, the endless fetch quest that made you drive diagonally across the map four times in a row. The checkpoints where the soldiers spotted you from a kilometer away and could accurately hit you from that distance. The checkpoints respawning the moment you were a hundred meters away from them. The weapons that jammed after firing a single clip. The malaria. What's not to like? /sarc
Here's an idea for a Far Cry game. Same place as FC3, jungle with tall trees, no map, no objective markers, no hud. Map replaced by Tallneck like creatures. Markers being flares/smoke signals you can shoot VERY far away. HUD being always off. Weapons are never carried, they slow you down after an encounter. Your "NPCs" never stay in one place for long, their quests progress in real time. They can fail without your help, but sometimes they go better without you. The map does not have to be big, but it has to be thought out. A shorter path could be unlocked by the actions of one of your NPC if you catch them at the right place. Color of the smoke indicating which kind of NPC you meet. Some traps can be found in this case, with your enemy killing the NPC and stealing their smoke. The same smoke can be later found from one of the few surviving members of the ambush. ETC.
Horizon, a game where you can’t jump over a rock at shin height but when there’s scratches and yellow paint on a mountain you turn into a Redbull sponsored x games rock climbing pro.
Far Cry Primal was a good experiment... I would love it they made FC more historical, like being a Samurai in Japan, or during the Russian Revolution, or maybe even Napoleon times. Or a Western Far Cry game, settling the colonies, carving your own "state." Maybe a time travel machine and back to the Jurassic Era, etc. A first person Assassin's Creed lol. Far Cry always had something of the fantastical or surreal in it, so I'm against overly serious or too grounded a tone.
@@L39T Indeed, that would be a good era too. I just got an idea... Far Cry: Biblical. You're back when Jesus was born and everyone thinks you're him. Or you're playing as Jesus but with weapons. 😆
Love these type of videos. Really interesting and great for opening up discussion. News and reviews are always great but not many discussion pieces like this out there. Great work.
a few times I would be doing a mission and I'd clear out the village/area and I'd go to the other end of that village (not even 150 metres) and go back and they'd all be spawned back in the same places. A step down from FC5
I tried to play 5 after not playing any of them since loving 2 and... two things I absolutely hated. First, no ability to rest or pass time just KILLS immersiveness. Second, the pacing and constant "anarchy" makes the game so ADD-addled that there's no time to breathe. Also: let the dog get in the goddamn car.
Thank you for giving primal the props it deserves its also 1 of if not my favorite farcry , i achieved the survival of the fittest for it (100% completion-expert difficulty-survivor mode on-permadeath on ) and in its defense the survivor mode they added later it wasnt there on the games release but it completely changes the game just to name a few changes .....no minimap ,less resources in the world , you cant carry as much,crafting isn't instant but now takes afew seconds, the nights are darker and last longer and more predators come out , the owl cant dive attack or drop bombs , health is capped at less bars , there is now a stamina bar , fast traveling is somewhat limited ....im sure im forgetting some others its been afew years but its such an underrated game
I feel like far cry 3 did a lot to make engage/relate to the character. You felt Jason's struggles and Jason evolved with you and the gameplay, it hit that perfect spot between far cry chaos and villainy and a good story and character and world building
I really want to see them incorporate some of the ideas from the underrated Boiling Point: Road to Hell game. They seemed to a little bit in Far Cry 2 with weapons jamming and breaking. I want that to return, but also allow the player to remove and swap weapon mods and require that they find specific ammo to weapons not just generic "rifle" or "pistol". Survival in fights can get tense if your best gun runs out of ammo and the enemies are carrying something else. You can also use that in accordance with factions, maybe rebels prefer rifles with a certain ammo and government forces use others. Also I think you mentioned this but be more restrictive with inventory which I think makes the survival more visceral and stealth more required. I miss games like Boiling Point and it is a shame that some of their ideas never made there way to many other games, maybe Fallout a little bit. I can see a lot of world building you can do with some of these systems.
settings definitely the biggest thing that could change this redundant feelings with FC5. he can go to many kind of offworld shenanigans like Blood Dragon, but instead pick another regime, another backwater country/places, etc, etc. Here some examples for an unique settings: + Steampunk Fantasy + Arabian Desertpunk + Waterworld Type Places + Mix Medieval with Weird Techs + Hollow Earth Type Places + Grimdark Dieselpunk + Alien world with alien characters + Abandoned titanic mothership + Alternate timeline of IRL history + "Turok-like" Fantasy + Sci-fi Biopunk world + Post apocalyptic Medieval sci-fi (western & eastern) + Western Weirdworld Fantasy + Magicpunk world with aliens & fantasy races Hell, they can go "Cyberpunk with high fantasy" like Shadowrun & I would pick that over this typical backwater regime setting like FC6.
I vehemently disagree. These different settings are essentially reskins or mods as ACG put it. Ubisoft gives us new settings all the time but, in the end, it's still just a cycle of clearing a map/checklist while collecting junk, and being inundated with HUD information.
@@BlueisNotaWarmColour My arguments for this would be: + different settings would definitely provides new looks & feels, both visually & story-wise. + Unique different settings can provide unique features & gameplay elements that not yet exist in the franchises. Hell, maybe something similar but with new twists like ACG suggested. + Unique settings provides a lot more potentials in the storytelling & themes. Many FC fand love Blood Dragon because how different it was with other FC games. It has its own unique styles & some elements that unique to Blood Dragon only. Far Cry game franchise is essentially an open world action shooter in isolated setting. It's such broad descriptions but somehow Ubisoft still unable to make the franchise feel fresh with each titles, ever since FC3. Is a more grounded & hardcore tactical shooter system gonna help the franchise fresh again?? Idk... Maybe... But then again, it's a different market/audiences & likely will compete with other hardcore FPS games.
1 - Make a simple street ghetto type setting 2 - make it about hand to hand combat with abilities 3 - add cats from space 4 - include Jeff 5 - 80's Music
for me the problem isn't really gameplay but more so the story telling of recents farcry's have been lackluster. the few gameplay issues I do have is I can't customize difficulty. I want the game to be harder in some areas like ammo ecenomy but not so much in fighting the actual enemy or the ability of having the choice to make the enemy smarter or not which is hard to do in a open world game but that's a dev problem not a me problem. all I can do is wish for things.
Yeah, dude. I just want better characters that interact with themes the way Metro Exodus did and a better story. Keep the Far Cry gameplay relatively the same, but make me care about the characters and understand the motivations of the people in the world. That's why Metro Exodus is my favorite game of the Xbox One / PS4 generation.
I love your content. I love your witty smart banter. I think you have an amazing ability to make really high level analysis and deliver it with humor and style but have a piece of constructive criticism I think would make a substantial improvement. Break up the rhythm of your commentary a bit. Add some pauses. Take a breath and let your points breathe a bit. You have this relentless, steady, staccato like pacing with your commentary and editing that it can almost feel exhausting and overwhelming. It's as if your script has virtually no commas, periods, or paragraphs. It can at times sound like you're just speaking in one immensely long run on sentence. It's like the audio version of watching a Michael Bay film that's just an endless string of jump cuts that never allow your brain to process what it just saw or in this case heard. Again, I love your content. I think your virtually a mad genius and your brain is definitely working on higher level than most. Adding a little more dynamics to the soundscape might make your brilliant commentary stand out even more.
Ubisoft has a serious problem with how they seem to be designing their games. They are chasing the trend of Battle Royals with both The Division and Ghost Recon franchises and while I know they will end up releasing Frontline and Heartland I think they are going to find that the people who played Division(1&2) and the recent Ghost Recon games are not the people that will be playing these two BR titles. Sure they may win over some converts from Warzone, PubG or Fortnite but the experience that long time GR and Division players want is to keep playing those games, not to play a game with the same name in a Battle Royal scenario. Back to Far Cry, I think Ubisoft is chasing their own trend Far Cry 1&2 were new and different 3 had an amazing villain. And they think the same formula will work forever when what made Far Cry 2, in particular, great was the engine's fire mechanics and different perspectives on the same story for each of the playable characters. Rant over.
I whole heartedly agree with this assessment, and I hope Ubisoft makes a pivot for Far Cry 7. Far Cry 3 refined a lot of systems and was really fun. Far Cry 4 was more of the same, bit more polished. Far Cry 5 was exciting because it was in America and dealt with a cult. I'm one of the minority that actually loves Far Cry 5 and I regularly go back to it. I liked some of the things done in New Dawn. This is the first Far Cry that I'll wait for a sale for. Aside from the excellent villain and liberation story line, nothing about the gameplay systems is making me want to pick this up. The gameplay systems doesn't make this feel like a full-blown sequel. I'm not trying to disparage the hard work the devs put into this, but Far Cry needed a shakeup after 5, and this wasn't it.
I really agree with most of your points, but i think an important addition would be that FC5 really underdelivered with the cult stuff. Personally i don't care about it being in USA, which means, for me, it was more of FC3 and FC4. I love FC5 for it's open world and freedom, which is why i return to it sometimes. But now looking at FC6 which is more of FC5 which is more of FC4 and 3.... common man, listen to ACG Ubisoft! But people vote with their wallets and so far FC6 seems to be doing pretty good...so i don't have high hopes for any substantial changes in FC7
And that is why Far Cry 2 and Primal are still the best Far Crys. You actually dynamically interact with the world in a meaningful way on a regular basis with risky traversal rather than safely tick boxes and clear the map of its gameplay potential.
FC6 lets you choose and equip any weapon you have unlocked simply within the inventory screen, whenever you want. You are practically carrying every weapon you have.
This was the first far cry that I didn’t even consider getting. Didn’t care. Ubisoft is truly developing by the numbers, like Disney remasters, I think you can only sell the same games so many times till people catch on. My biggest gripes - story sucks. I feel nothing for protagonist or characters (explains faceless/genderless insert) - villain is clearly the tent post, villains are villainous, big surprise. - map has zero character, interspersed with cut out mission areas. Everything else is the same. - Core gunplay is repetitive, weapons don’t feel unique just a different frequency bullet hose. - collectibles are the laziest, most phone it in mechanic. I got a page, WHO CARES!? - graphics have managed to look the same for over a decade. How did they even do that? 🤔
The graphics are nowhere near the same. The last Far Cry game that existed at that time was Far Cry 2. If you think that or even 3 looked even remotely close to FC6 you probably need glasses or have terrible memory. Or course it's available on PS4 and X1, which have hardware comparable to fairly good (not high end) computers from 2010.
"graphics have managed to look the same for over a decade. How did they even do that?" Don't really agree with that at all, but they've also pretty much been on the 8G consoles for almost a decade. Certainly the visuals have been refined from FC4 to Primal to FC5 to New Dawn to FC6 in that time, but you can't expect complete overhauls when you're still stuck with an Xbox One and base PS4 as the entry points.
I've only played one far cry game, blood dragon, which I really enjoyed. I bought it because visually it was so different from any other game I had played. I loved the 80's future dysyopian look as well as the over the top dialogue which I found very funny. Never played any others and I'm not sure why.
great choice, 3 (the game that got reskinned to make blood dragon) had a great story, 4 wasnt bad either, but blood dragon by far had the most personality
What could have been really cool (I haven't finished FC6 yet but I doubt they've done what I want to propose) is timeline development. Let's say that the initial year, that you begin FC6 in, is something like 1945. Everything suits the time, as is appropriate. As the story unfolds, the world ages. Suddenly, midway through the plot, it's 1968 and a lot changes, including your character, and what hardware they have access to. It sounds silly on paper but this is something I would like to see in modern RPGs. Dynamic timelines and player character aging.
Primal is still my favourite, due to the gun centric homogeneous game design being thrown at a world without guns and still working well. Too bad that as a slight departure from the formula it wasn't as popular, and now we are stuck with this prosaic built for the masses tripe.
Primal was something actually original and very fun the weapon gameplay was solid and the story was surprisingly understandable, shame its hated and underrated
Something I really want to see now that the hardware allows for it is a game with a teleporter for a protagonist. Literally look at a plain / cliff / rooftop, press a button, and BAM, you're right there, even if it's dozens of kilometers away. However, no UI map, no objective markers, and no fast travel points. Only maps would be found in the world as "You are here" signposts. That way you really need to learn the world, but since you can travel so fast getting lost doesn't really lose you time. The idea occurred to me when playing AC Odyssey, using the eagle and a cheat tool to hop around the world in a similar way, it was a very cool experience I would love to see fleshed out properly.
Far Cry could start by being more serious and story driven. Remove the wacky childish attributes. Gta for example went from gta4 one of the best dark stories I've ever experienced and amazing realistic driving physics to the most childish arcadey easy game in Gta5. Ghost Recon became a boring generic open world with lackluster story. Open world does not need to be implemented for every game
GTA4 is good, but overrated. Saints Row 2, which came out at the same year, was a better game in every regard except for realistic physics and graphics. I played GTA4 again recently and ever though its a well made game with very well written characters and voice actors, the story is a depressing slog that majorly overstays its welcome. It's just Niko apathetically working for one douchebag after another for hours and hours until he finally reaches his character climax when he confronts Darko. I just felt like so much of the game was filler and the open world itself was incredibly mediocre and felt totally unnecessary. Saints Row 2 on the other hand had a lot of very dark moments in its narrative while also balancing them out with some zany wacky moments as well, plus the open world was WAAAAAAAY better than GTA4's was. I think Far Cry should go down the SR2 route and make more grounded serious moments properly woven into its wackiness without it being jarring.
I love the environments/worlds that Ubisoft creates (heck, it is why I keep buying and playing their games), but I think that your assessment of how we go beyond what worked in the past to what we should be seeing in the future is spot on.
One major move: eliminate the map. Get rid of it. Completely. No replacement for it. Simply build a Far Cry game around the absence of a map and all the implications that come with that. I think the rest of the game would fall into place
One thing that stood out to me so far about fc6 is when you start a mission it goes to a generic background while the voice over plays. It seems like that might have been one area where covid constraints played a role where devs didnt have time to add those voice overs into a real world “cutscene” style implementation.
I’ll tell you how: by going back to the damn original games, evolution serum should be introduced again. Doesn’t have to be Jack Carver again but at the same time why not. They either need to do a full remake of the first game or a sequel to it with Jack, or at least continue Dr Kriegers work and have some other hell hole be experimented on with the evolution serum.
Very good points. I really enjoyed blood dragon but I think it was because of Michael biehn being the voiced character and it was such a departure from the normal world. Same with primal's world. I felt 5 had some different ideas with the bunkers and such. New Dawn had great ideas but hated the leveling system. I think ubisoft is afraid to depart too "far" from the past titles world's due to gamers expectations of what a far cry title is.
I’ve been thinking since Far Cry 5, how cool would it be to play the villain in Far Cry 7. Perhaps you must have political conversations along with killing rebel insurgents and capturing regions, and increasing your power to become a dictator of a country. Just a thought so not complete my flushed out, but wouldn’t that be so cool?
This is very late so probably won’t be seen but here’s my thoughts anyway: I’ve played every far cry since 3 except new dawn so I definitely consider myself a fan of the series, I’m loving some of the ideas for tweaks you’ve suggested especially regarding the AI, I think most Far Cry fans would agree that’s the biggest problem with 6’s gameplay. My suggested change for 6 specifically which I’m hoping and praying they actually provide in an update is fixing the lack of challenge and immersion you have regarding loadouts. Being able to switch your weapons by just going into the menu at any point, EVEN IN COMBAT, is nothing short of ludicrous. Choosing what weapons you take out with you in previous entries was really well done because you actually have to think about how to approach different scenarios, it’s such a basic feature that games have been doing since forever it astounds me it’s even an issue with a modern title from a huge studio. Got to be fixed!
I honestly want to see more of a return to form for far cry. Something more akin to far cry 2. I think why that game is so fondly remembered is because it almost tried to take a more realistic approach, and everything seemed fairly grounded within a world that had set rules and boundaries that made sense. In far cry 6 you've got from the beginning, avery evil antagonist and the tone is set almost immediately. Civilians getting murdered hell, he essentially has a grandmother shot in the face. But then the next couple of missions have you using a neon chicken to Peck people to death. Not to mention the gun customization and some of the weapons you get later on feel so ridiculously cartoony, and honestly that's been a slow descent for the series. it never originally was so over the top, at least in its stylistic presentation of weapons and characters. Some might consider that good thing, but personally I'd like to see a far cry game that has realistic recoil, where the devs did their research on how guns are supposed to handle, and the player has to maintain their weapons or they become useless. Granted how quickly weapons deteriorated in far cry 2 was a bit laughable. Additionally half of the battle shouldn't be fighting the enemy but fighting the environment to get to the enemy. Again I think far cry 2 is so beloved because it in a lot of ways stuck to this idea of brutalist difficulty (it's not overly difficult or like a mil sim) in a grounded world. To me it feels more believable to be shot and have to pull the bullet out of your arm and bandage yourself while fighting malaria, in a world that feels real. There weren't even civilians in far cry 2, and yet the feeling of oppression and sadness throughout the landscape was tangible. It's better then smoking a cigar and putting it out on yourself and then getting a crocodile to eat someone.
I think people were excited for Far Cry 5 when they announced it was taking place in the USA. It was a fresh breath being somewhere we were all familiar with. I think we were all slightly disappointed when it turned to a religious cult that seems to have been overplayed in multiple TVs movies and games as well. It felt like “too easy” of a villain and theme to go with. What if the games were brought back into the USA, but maybe during revolutionary or civil wars? If every war game can have the nazi German army as the bad guys, why not the British or Confederates? Or if instead of religious cults, there were cannibals who kidnapped people from small towns. Or a terrorist/activist group set to destroy a port at the gulf of Mississippi (some kind of fake New Orleans) where the camps are set in swamp lands. There’s a real connection to a plot when the setting takes place in our own backyard. If we’re trying to bring players excitement back, why not start there with history revisioned or a threat in areas we’re familiar with again. The series doesn’t need to stay in the US, but I think the familiarity will help.
I’m in the middle of playing Sekiro right now. Replayed Far Cry 5 a few months back. Went to play FC6 last night and put it down and went back to Sekiro….
Base building, outpost customization, more weapons, customizable guns for hire, specific stores found in certain areas of the map, etc. Bring back the outpost liberation cutscenes from 5 too.
And boy do I have more ideas that could serve Far Cry 5 and 6 better. Spoilers though. As for Far Cry 6, there could be multiple endings based on each central character of the game since it is all about taking control of Yara and steering its future towards something. Each character gets a "good", "neutral" and a "bad" ending. These characters are the Monteros, Legends of 67, La Moral, Maximas Mantanzas, Clara Garcia, Juan Cortez and of course, Diego Castillo, Anton Castillo and Dani Rojas. Each of their 3 endings concern them getting the opportunity to rule Yara their way and it all boils down to a plot twist that should have been in the game: Dani is the bastard child of Anton Castillo, but since her mother didn't sire a son, she was either killed or left for dead which explains WHY DANI WAS AN ORPHAN IN THE FIRST PLACE. When Dani discovers the truth, it's the players choice then to whether she will tell this to anyone of her allies. And obviously, they won't react as kindly which can lead to the neutral and bad endings. How can this be measured as a progression? Well, again the player's choice comes into play on what faction does she come help more: Libertad (if this the player will choose either Clara, Juan or Dani in the end to rule/come out on top), the Montero family, Maxima Mantanzas or the Legend of 67 and La Moral. Different progression bars for each factions that continue constantly with no end decide that factor and although all factions untied will go on to Esperanza to take out Castillo or you know, the player could just join him for sick reasons hehe I'll get back to that or you could just have nothing to do with the factions who are likely to take things far with their campaigns and just take care of Diego in either ruling together or escaping to Miami together. Anyways, those separate progression bars made to whether a player's choice helps a faction a bit more and that faction will rule at the end. I have so many more ideas for Far Cry 5 AND 6 it's unreal.
Wow...I finally get it. I hope the developers figure this out. Far Cry has always been a favorite for me. I was really sad when my friend and I kept disconnecting in Coop in the latest Far Cry... despite our games running absolutely fine outside of coop. As well as our internet being more than sufficient.
Alot of the purists of assassin's Creed, alot of the Ubisoft players that are tired of the franchise same formulas thruout all games won't admit it but I can respect the reasons they completely flip that series into that Witcher
Far Cry 2 is great. FC Primal is great too. Now I wonder, what those two games have in common? First of all, both are serious games (Primal looks a little goofy if played in normal difficulty, but for sure becomes a very serious experience if played on survivor mode without wallhack). Second, I think both stands out for being their own thing. Primal not relying on big villains, not being about power fantasy, throwing out all the overpowering weapons and putting the player in a real sense of danger (the game even has second chance and permadeath for true immersion); all of that shows that exists another lineage within the series. If Ubisoft wants to make Far Cry exciting again, they should stop looking to Jason Brody and Vaas and start looking to what made FC2 and Primal both great games. Far Cry 3 (in my opinion the worst of the series) have merit in being his own thing too, but his commercial success started an obsession, and every game since (except for Primal) tried to be the new FC3.
As someone who absolutely loves the Far Cry formula and who bought FC6 almost immediately, I get a lot of these points. I do think the world traversal is a non-issue though, quite the opposite, its something that Ubi handles better than most developers. The player can easily get around most AC/FC games, without pain or without worrying about save spam or reloading. As such, the player feels no restrictions about exploring or going to the most far flung corners in the way you felt in something like RDR2, a game that actively sought to punish even thinking about exploration. There's definitely something to the forgettable player characters, and I think its been trending more forgettable. At least, from Jason Brody to Ajay Ghale to 'nameless Deputy', Jason and Ajay were both at least voiced and had motivation to do what they did. Deputy wasn't voiced, had no real attachments to ingame characters, nor any real backstory. Might as well have been a floating gun arm and backpack. I'm not sure about Rojas yet, since I haven't really delved into FC6 yet, but I like the change to 3rd person cutscenes and return to a properly voiced character. On the setting, Karak has a point, you can copy the Far Cry formula into any number of settings, from alien world to post apocalyptic to post-post apocalyptic to scifi dystopia and more. FC5's Lost on Mars took us to Mars, and while I thought the interplay between Hurk/Brobot and Nick Rye was fun, the planet was mostly just empty.
Basically a lot of the stuff you are mentioning was already present in Far Cry 2. - Competent AI. They flanked you, had a whole weapon kit available to them instead of a designated role (which let's be honest makes half of the enemies in the later games a non threat), no colour coding to them. In fact there is almost no colour coding in that game (the colour of the trucks from the 2 factions is the exception). - Something like the drones in Breakpoint? The patroles in FC2 of jeeps and trucks were a lot more present than in later titles. Furthermore (this goes back to the AI) they drove right over you whenever they got the chance instead of stopping their vehicle and trying to get out of it to shoot you like they did in 3 and onwards. That revving engine noise is something many Far Cry 2 players still have memories from. - HUD. Well it's the prime example of one of the best HUDs ever made imo. No clutter on the screen. Ammo counter and life bar even fade out of view when you are not in combat or pressing a button that's related to its information (like reload, heal, or something like that). The map you hold that in your actual hands. - The overabundance of fast travel points which leads to players not actually traversing the world wasn't present either. Hence why some like to call it Far Drive. But at least I felt like I was playing a game and not a menu simulator. On top of that narrative and gameplay were actually connected and felt cohesive. Only Blood Dragon gets away with the ridiculous over the top gameplay they went for since 3.
Idea for the prologue and the characters motivation if it goes another way. You are an ex military man who joined a humanitarian/relief group with a woman you meet and marry. She makes you a better man and you put it all behind you. Now you're in some country where the people are being neglected and abused in every way by the president/dictator or whoever. Now that you're helping some of these people they're realizing how bad they've had it and are wanting to rise up against the dictator but you are telling them not to because it would end in war and death. It's too late though because he's already heard rumblings about unrest amongst the people and how it's all about your group being there. You're out one day for supplies and calming down various protest groups etc when you get back and find your group's center of operation in smoke and flames. Theres soldiers strewn about whats left of the building and you take each down quickly but non-lethally as you work your way through. Each time it's just a simple chokehold or wack to the back of the head and when you get close a cutscene plays. You're at the back of what was the building but its blown out and theres a heavy armored vehicle parked at the gap of the wall with headlights blasting in. The President/Dictator is there with a handful of men and what's left of your group is there with your wife kneeling on the ground watching and listening intently. He tells them that the building is gone, their supporters are being dealt with, and that this is there OPPORTUNITY to appreciate his mercy and leave the country. He turns to leave and your wife says something to him about how it's only a matter of time before they or someone else takes over and he gets what's coming to him for what he's done to his people. You think he's going to leave still but instead he turns with hate in his eyes which he quickly hides behind a sneering grin before saying something about how he will do the same thing he has always done then.... What he has to. Then before you have a chance to react he grabs a gun from one of his men and shoots your wife. You can hardly believe it and are frozen blank faced. He gets in his transport after throwing the gun back and telling his men he's changed his mind and to kill the rest and dispose of the "garbage". As soon as he drives away the camera focuses back on the wife and your character snaps. All his training and unfocused rage from his time in the service comes back to him and he rushes in to save the rest of his group and friends. He grabs the nearest soldier and their gun before killing the first man he has in years in a gruesome takedown telling his friends to take cover and taking out the last few soldiers. Those of your group who stay help you establish new connections and a new base of operation. Its the emotional impact we need after 3 hit so hard and the rest frankly faltered a bit. UBISOFT READ THIS LOL. I even added it to multiple videos as i really like its premise.
So many true things are said here and I wish we'd get to see those changes in the future. However as popular as Ubisoft are, not many people realize that they're not that big/successful of a company. They are even smaller/less successful than CDPR and can't even be compared to EA or Activision. Now when we look at the work Ubisoft does (all the games they maintain and develop), teams that they employ and compare those to the company's metrics, it seems to me like they might've fallen behind and started becoming a AA game company with the image of AAA one, because they're hanging on their IP's popularity.
_"They are even smaller/less successful than CDPR"_ Revenue as of 2020: CDPR 500 million Ubisoft 1.5 billion Epic Games 4 billion EA 5.5 billion Activision 8 billion CDPR and Ubisoft are *FAR* from small fry. All those I listed are huge, fantastically successful companies. Ubi shits out what, 3 AAA games per year?
There are several separate studios under the Ubi mantle, and many Ubisoft-branded games are at least a partial collaboration between them. It's a fairly common setup, but the design-by-committee method seems to stifle any creativity that we may have otherwise seen had the guidelines not been so obviously narrow. Situations vary, but don't get too caught up in Corp-speak like "AA/AAA" or other nonsense. It's a distortion of reality.
The solution to traversal you describe is essentially what Breath of the Wild did only with a grappling hook instead of Link's body, and I am actually surprised that Far Cry has not taken any cues from that game. I think its an almost perfect analog, just in first person.
As an artist in AAA we are in a constant fight with designers to try to decrease the amount of color coding or obvious traversal decal stuff. We always want it to look and feel more natural but design would be happiest if the whole world was gray block with nothing else in the level but decals! It takes really good designers to know when those decals are necessary and when they are not. Overall there needs to be more creativity within game design in general. Most designers just do what they were taught and don't think too far out of the box. Also play testers often find the most simple interactions hard without sign posts so...kinda screws the rest of us over.
I wish all the video game developers would get together and try to standardize the buttons. I realize different games have different functions so they can't always be the same but I wish simple commands like jump, shoot, open, etc would be the same buttons on different games.
I'd love to see them bring fc2's map system back. Literally just a map that u can't pause. Also a stamina system similar to I Am Alive for many of these games from this to Horizon to Uncharted
Maps are obviously getting players familiar with content, I like them to be given in-story by easy access. The time spent on resources is important for both developers and players. Some story-driven games give maps asap, while others have the need of exploration to unlock the knowledge of symbolic areas. Even racing games have exploration to reward the players. To me, allowing players to explore the environment with a simple explanation of a symbolic system, even colors (lol). Strategy is important, indeed. And as development teams grow, so does content. I guess upgrades go here too, the longer you play the tougher your avatar gets. Progression is what keeps a player coming back...
I'm baffled that you included Zero Dawn's Striders as a good "dynamic mechanic". Those are just Ubisoft Towers(tm) that move around AND you can usually only climb them when they are in a couple of conveniently placed spots where environments just so happens to fit together so you can start climbing one. You could have the same effect if you add two doors to a tower and randomly lock\unlock them as time passes. Though I would like a new "spot the area" mechanic instead of the usual "stand in spot to have map area unlocked" thing. Phoenix Rising did a better job with its Zelda-like binocular system where you could mark stuff yourself, it was just TOO powerful(Working through walls). Just take that system and build on top of it.
I really think they should make the next Far Cry a proper RPG where you have extensive narrative choice throughout the game and can complete missions in multiple different manners, some of which might not even involve violently gunning everyone down or sneakily machete slicing their throats and rather could be resolved totally nonviolently. I also think it should allow players to align themselves with or against different factions and in turn allow them to play as more of a good guy or bad guy depending on their preference. Lastly, I would like it to be set in a fictional version of Thailand since I think the quirkiness of that part of the world would lend itself quite well to the tone of Far Cry.
for me i loved all the far cry games, but the one thing that has given me the most fun and game time....arcade! it was BRILLIANT (i know its technically still there) player made maps, some very funny, some very troll, and some amazingly made. BRING ARCADE TO FAR CRY 6 PLZ
For the reasons you explained is why I don't really play Ubisoft games. My first game from them is Far Cry 2 (or 3?) and loved it a lot at the start. Overtime it was way too repetitive it got frustrating causing me to drop the game. Years later played Primal, and again loved it, but the same thing happened down the line. It seems Ubisoft doesn't care enough to work in the nuances of a game enough to make it new or different
Ubisoft seem to be focused on streamline the game loop to such an extent at this rate the next Far Cry game will consist of a few button prompts while the games plays itself. Following an activity, tbd player will then scour the area for materials to build an upgrade at a camp that never feels meaningful.
Far cry 1 tropical island Far cry 2 afruca Far cry 3 tropical island Blood dragon 80s neon tropical island Far cry 4 tibet Far cry 5 american rural area Far cry 6 basically cuba, also tropical Far cry primal tibet with cavemen I feel like they can keep trying to mix up the areas and the formula little by little. Every new game should have its own theme and new enemies. I wouldn't mind more time hopping or more syfy shenanigans. If done right of course.
Having fun with 6 so far, mostly due to the setting I think. They did a lot right with the world, and the music is freaking great like really really great. But I will say about 6 hours in I can see it starting to slow down a bit... we'll see maybe it's just a speed bump. If I get 20 hours of legit fun out of this I'll be happy. 5 reeeeeeeeally slowed down for me after a about 12 hours.
@@Aussie_Tom yeah it's been fun so far but I will say the map is huge like I've only been to like 10% of it so far so we may be looking at a Valhalla situation here idk. BTW what I did was sign up for ubis subscription service. It's like 16 bucks to play the ultimate edition and seeing as it's a far cry game I'm sure I'll be done with it inside of a month and just cancel my sub. Just an idea if you're not sure about buying but semi interested.
Honestly, one of the things I really want in Farcry is for the player to feel like he/she has a meaningful impact on the game world. I can take over an enemy fuel depot and be told it's good for the resistance, but who cares? Telling me has no impact and I don't care. If I take over a base for my faction I want tangible changes to not only affect the game world but also my overall playing experience. Give weight to clearing out bases and checkpoints. Also, make it much harder to do so. Then, it feels like I'm accomplishing something and building something.
Another idea, make the actual military a character in the game. Military forces can constantly be upgrading their gear, abilities, etc. However, if I destroy a training camp maybe a lot of soldiers are now green and less effective. If I destroy an ammo dump maybe they don't have specialty rounds for a while. If I destroy a general supply dump maybe they don't get as good body armor. If I destroy or capture a fuel dump maybe they have less vehicles and tanks to respond with (now they use horses more). Maybe there's a choice between capturing a location or completely destroying it. If captured, maybe the particular faction in the area gets it and is better loaded out. Stuff like that gives weight to the map and gameplay for me.
I think Ubi could make a good James Bond game with the Far Cry engine. Since there hasn’t been a really beloved JB game since Goldeneye in the 90s, I think one is overdue.
I like the Far Cry formula, the big sandbox but I wish Ubisoft would stop trying to redo Far Cry 3. Vaas was a great villain but not every Far Cry game needs its Vaas. I liked the FC5 setting but hated when the game would take me out of my fun to do the main story. New Dawn had some interesting ideas but not a good story.
It’s like people complaining about a COD campaign. As long as it’s not a reskin fans will be fan. You know what you are going to get when you purchase either.
My favourite far cry games have been the spin offs, blood dragon & primal. Even if they never going to do any big changes to the gameplay, they should at least be unique with their settings/ characters and such. I always remember the some of the surveys they sent out concerning what settings players want to see, and it’s a shame they never did the cool ones from a book dragon sequel, to a Jurassic part dinosaur island & Victorian era like setting with vampires. Come on ubi, just jump the shark already…
They need to get rid of their whole progression system. Its boring, lazy and overdone. Game needs an engine and graphical overhaul, DLSS, revamped and improved shooting mechanics. An entirely new progression system UNIQUE TO FAR CRY, better writing, a more serious narrative, a more realistic aesthetic and no more stupid single player microtransactions or monetization beyond story DLC.
I was thinking they can go two directions, either bring back Carter as a 007 type character, or expand on FC5 and go full post-apocalyptic. Either way though, I would tone down the wacky. Look at Uncharted or Tomb Raider for a Bond type game, or Metro and Fallout for a PA type game. A game can still be seriously fun even if it is more serious.
Only Far Cry I bought was 5, got the gold edition I think, did the first area, realised the climbing towers and clearing that area wasn't for me and gave it to my friends son. Just felt like I was wandering about killing stuff to justify more wandering.
The farcry games have no interest in me... however, I will say Farcry 3 Blood Dragon was something I definitely wanted to try and enjoyed a bit. Though it's not a perfect game or anything but was fun in how it made fun of some stuff, plus the cool cyberpunk look to it back before cyberpunk was all the rage. Was hoping for a sequel eventually but so far nothing.
"Saying it's good with friends is a review of your friends, not the game"
YES, well put!
Well not exactly… by that logic you’re completely discounting multiplayer games, party games, etc. It is true that any game can be fun with friends but when done right some are still much better than others.
Hi, Ex Far Cry 5 dev here.
I've always said it, we should be doing a Far Cry game with escape from tarkov gun modification system + difficulty of rainbow six/Tarkov.
Then add this to a cool setting and we could do anything.
Imo a grimdark setting would have been amazing.
Problem is, Far Cry is a big IP, ubisoft doesn't want to risk it so they do the same thing over and over again, proof : All past 3 far cry's have a ''go burn this field there'' mission type. etc etc.
Finally Ubisoft makes casual games, games that are a no brainer, a ''fun game''.
So while all your points are valid, this isnt the way ubisoft works and design videogames.
Spot on.
That is sad to hear. When a great company like Ubisoft decides to take the safe and easy route of making a safe game instead of taking significant risks for the sake of great art like Farcry 2 and 3 was. Fantastic video games I will never forget.
One of my big issues that I didn't hear addressed is the tone. The situations in these games are pretty dark and serious. However they are then juxtaposed with wacky characters and even wackier animal companions.
The series needs to lean more toward Far Cry 2 while also taking in some of your suggestions.
Far Cry 5. Fighting a supposedly terrifying cult with a bear named Cheeseburger.
Or the wacky weapons
You should specify that you mean that it needs to lean more toward Far Cry 2 regarding tone and atmosphere, but _definitely_ not regarding gameplay mechanics.
The wacky companions was a huge turn off for me. I would prefer a more gritty realistic setting. Make fc7 realistic...or as close as possible. And a different developer and I'll buy it lol
That grenade in the mouth had me shocked then my gator runs off.🤣🤣
Hoping every year Ubisoft to make another great far cry is the real definition of insanity.
@Violett Fem speak for yourself, I thought FC5 was hot trash. I've also played every Far Cry and DLC since FC2 though and have been yearning for something different since the release of FC4. Ubisoft has been releasing what feels to be the same FC game with a new coat of paint for years now, THATS BS.
@Violett Fem same i always pre ordered FC/AC games. FC 6 too. 👍
Well put
@@Coltrain118 fc5 is the only far cry game that she played that's why she's embarrassingly ignorant😂
15 hours playtime, i have only one suggestion for this beloved game:
⭐ Automatically loot all items materials in Enemy Basecamp right after players cleared it out.
Looting in Ubisoft games is somewhat 🥵
So far i enjoyed the rest of the game. 🔥⭐🔥
I would absolutely love if they could bring Far Cry back to a more grounded realistic setting and theme like FC2. The juxtaposition between serious and funny just doesn't work. I feel like most people are bashing new FC games because there is a lack of innovation now for a few years, not because they are actually inherently bad games? Its just that if you played one, you have basically played them all.
Totally agree farcry fun but gets lost in being like every other Ubisoft game
Not gonna happen. That's how Ubisoft make their games nowadays. They milk the hell out of it, make it as long and as bland as possible it can be. Assassin's Creed falls into the same problem. It's not even the studio fault at this point. It's just Ubisoft in general dictating how every game should be.
very few games seem to take place in Africa for some reason. Nothing has come as close to FC2 even now.
It's not even FC2's setting that made it so innovative: it's how Ubisoft approached weapon jamming and companion relationships. It's almost unparalleled because no other developer does it anymore, which is a damn shame.
The most fun I ever had with the series was BY FAR with Blood Dragon, so I wouldn't mind them going fool goofy every few games.
The problem for me with Ubisoft is that when they try something new and it’s successful, they quickly copy and paste it on the next game and not improve it. AC Origins, Odyssey, and Valhalla are the same game. So if they do a Far Cry refresh for 7 for example, I’ll bet that 8 and 9 will be the same as 7.
Tbh a lot of systems from AC Odyssey and Valhalla have been transplanted into Far Cry 6 as well
For sure but at least we'll get 1 good game out of it.
I have a hard time understanding the financial incentive. Surely they could make more money off a few really high-quality games instead of pumping out janky rehashes every year. Plenty of other publishers do it.
I would recommend almost any Ubisoft game to a new gamer. The problem isn’t so much the quality but the repetition. If you’ve played 25% of one Ubisoft game, you’ve pretty much played them all.
These games are vastly different even if they use the same formula. you're telling me AC Valhalla, Ghost Recon Breakpoint, and Far Cry 6 are the same game? not even close. don't get me started on other titles like the crew, for honour, and siege.
All that aside, this applies to every single developer out there. A rockstar game certainly feels like a rockstar game. A Bethesda game feels like a Bethesda game. FromSoftware as well and so on. And that's part of the appeal of these games as well. It offers a new experience on a tried and true formula by a reputable studio. I don't know why Ubisoft gets singled out, they consistently release absolutely beautiful and entertaining titles with a lot to offer.
@@jeremydukes4228 Actually what the other user refers to, is that the mechanics of the entire saga of far cry is the same, far cry 5 is equal to 6, Assassin's creed 2 is equal to revelations, etc, etc.
@@ShrapnalInTheSky yes but that's what people expect from a series. The changed assassin's Creed and all the fans start bitching. they changed ghost recon and same deal. Fans literally expect the same mechanics from a saga. There's no winning, people complain about everything
@@ShrapnalInTheSky Also I've played every Far Cry and currently on FC6 and I can tell you there's many many difference. Even simple things such as the compass in 5 to the gps mini map in 6, the enemy clouds on the map from ghost recon, the lack of skill tree in 6, third person cutscenes and voiced protagonist, I noticed the guns handle slightly differently specifically the lmgs definitely feel heavier and less mobile, same with the vehicles- they feel heavier and more realistic than previous. Then there's obvious improvements like the massive increase of weapons and customization among other things.
I'm only a couple hours into FarCry 6 so that's all I've noticed so far. but to say 5 is the same as 6 is just dumb af. if anything it feels more like a callback to FC3. Either way it's a new experience
@@jeremydukes4228 Obviously that far cry 6 is better than far cry 5 because it presents new features that previous deliveries do not, but the system is the same, same gameplay, the animations do not really change anything.it's like a fifa, I like the far cry and Assassin's creed saga but there are things that must be admitted, ubisoft recycles models and graphics engines.
Color coded traversal has been plaguing games (and open world titles in particular) for more than a decade. It removes any excitement and reward from figuring out an environmental puzzle. It's much tougher to design an intuitive world without such guidance, but it's a challenge I'd love to see developer approach.
Shadow of the Tomb Raider was the first modern game I've seen that allowed you to turn off the color-coded paint, and it was a real improvement.
It still felt pretty simple to traverse, but instead of feeling like your hand was constantly being held, you'd have to actually look around and think!
@@DCXanatos This definitely needs to be an option to disable in games, I still found it very easy to solve puzzles with it off and was much more immersive without it
If it's done, it needs to be optional. While it might be 'easier', not everyone enjoys jumping at random ledges to try to make progress.
@@Cry42 I agree it should be turned on by default because I think the majority of people want it, but really nice to have the option to turn it off.
@@DCXanatos With how complicated and detailed game worlds have become, color coded spots have become a crutch that devs use because figuring out an environmental puzzle without any cues would be frustrating for most players. I think I've seen a Tomb Raider dev blog discussing this very topic.
I remember turning the cues off in the last Tomb Raider game and you could still figure it out because it was still pretty obvious where you're supposed to go, most of the time due to the camera setup.
Ghost of Tsushima is one of the few games that attempted a different way of approaching this problem.
When I first played Far Cry 2 I jad no idea that it would remain the most immersive game in the Far Cry series's. Please Xbox, please give Far Cry 2 FPS boost to 60.
the animations would look like dogshit at 60 anyway
@@humblegamer7876 looks fine on PC tho
Still remember playing it during college. No Farcry game has come close to the experience since then.
Man. I long for a return to the immersive grittiness of 2. The fantastical elements like robot arms, rocket backpacks, and animal friends just seem like the wrong direction to me.
@Joseph Carrino It's tempting, is the FPS stable?
One thing they could do: STOP USING LEVEL GATING AS PROGRESSION.
Stuff like enemy health bars or other RPG like elements work better in games that are either fantasy or sci-fi settings, NEVER in "real-world" titles. I still can't get into the Division because of this issue. If you push these systems, then your game better be more like the first one where it's a bonkers 80-90s action flick, and less in-yo-face realism.
Farcry needs to be more immersive sim than RPG-lite. People want to discover and have fun. Not "grind" an activity for a stat point or custcene. Course, better scenario writing would also help too. Or maybe not pump so much into a story that you won't care about anyway, and focus on engaging gameplay more?
Yeah, the fact I can’t headshot people in one shot means I’m likely not gonna be playing too much of it, takes away the skill of stealth.
I strongly dislike that as well. From the short bit of the prologue I played last night before work today, I noticed enemies tank bullets. Even the basic ones. I found myself relying on my machete takedown for stealth. Health bars can be turned off which I already did, but they shouldn't be there in the first place either. Like you said, it isn't and RPG style game
LoL The Division's "empty an AK clip into an enemy's head to take away 1/10th of their healthbar because the weapon's level is too low" mechanics in a Tom Clancy game is definitely something that should not be emulated.
I like some rpgs but not every damn game needs to be 1 ... Especially not farcry
@@GnomeChompsky94 Clearly someone never put armor piercing bullets onto their firearm. I did that and I headshot literally every single enemy in the game no problem whatsoever while still maintaining stealth.
My dream Far Cry game:
- Upgraded realism systems of Far Cry 2
- Designed from the foundations to be played without any HUD
- Set in primeval/skull island location with dinosaurs
So basically Far Cry 2 + Peter Jackson's King Kong: The Official Video Game of the Movie + Turok
Lmao far cry metro sounds awesome
I hope this game realistics like rdr2, better ragdoll physics, gore blood like rdr2, more npcs in the world, disable wall hack, clean hub, enemys better.
So you want turok
Who would the bad guys be? What about far cry conan? With some "advanced" weapons/ weapons from different time periods?
I really did like playing Far Cry 2 when it was a thing back then, but I've tried playing it again more recently and the driving and ridiculous amount of time I spent looking at a map got tedious.
I would like to see far cry go back to some aspects of that style though. Thought it was pretty cool to have guns jam on you and the gun fights were pretty brutal. You didn't have a lot of spongey dudes in stupid amounts of armor. Everyone felt like they were desperate killers.
As for the dinosaurs and skull island deal. There is a huge hole for that type of game for me. I'm 100 percent behind it haha. Peter Jackson's king kong the game has not been repeated for me that was a great game.
My disappointment with all Ubisoft games is that about the location.
Hyping the game the location gets the most highlights. They went there, learned about the past, architecture, habits and all of that but when you play you are again in a sandbox with copy past location and what is there doesn't connect with the game.
Take Ghost of Stushima, I felt being there. Not only the lick of paint but the relationships, culture and their relationship with nature are all an integral part of the gameplay and not only a pretty backdrop.
The reason why they only hype the location, is because that's pretty much the only thing that's new
The assassin creed games have a lot of detail and actual history implemented. Since Origins they’ve had a free roam mode that tells you the history about the location you’re in.
@@kluneberg8952 yeah but let's be honest recent ac games have been garbage
Just like Ghost of Tsushima Horizon Dawn gave me that same feel. Every location was different and special.
"Press x simulator" I feel this one. I think it would be fine to just have most items scooped into your inventory like Doom or other FPS, anytime you get near a object you can take.
edit: you were talking about a grappling hook & while I was watching your Review for FC6, I was like "FPS Just Cause would be interesting".
I wish Ubisoft would go back and expand on ideas from Far Cry 2.
Far Cry 2 was revolutionary. I love how grounded and gritty that game was. Best far cry ever in my opinion
Ah yes, the endless fetch quest that made you drive diagonally across the map four times in a row. The checkpoints where the soldiers spotted you from a kilometer away and could accurately hit you from that distance. The checkpoints respawning the moment you were a hundred meters away from them. The weapons that jammed after firing a single clip. The malaria. What's not to like? /sarc
@@hgu123454321 the Malaria was terrible lol
I hope they return to their Far Cry 2 ideas. More focus on realism, AI, and graphics
Here's an idea for a Far Cry game. Same place as FC3, jungle with tall trees, no map, no objective markers, no hud. Map replaced by Tallneck like creatures. Markers being flares/smoke signals you can shoot VERY far away. HUD being always off. Weapons are never carried, they slow you down after an encounter. Your "NPCs" never stay in one place for long, their quests progress in real time. They can fail without your help, but sometimes they go better without you. The map does not have to be big, but it has to be thought out. A shorter path could be unlocked by the actions of one of your NPC if you catch them at the right place. Color of the smoke indicating which kind of NPC you meet. Some traps can be found in this case, with your enemy killing the NPC and stealing their smoke. The same smoke can be later found from one of the few surviving members of the ambush. ETC.
Horizon, a game where you can’t jump over a rock at shin height but when there’s scratches and yellow paint on a mountain you turn into a Redbull sponsored x games rock climbing pro.
Far Cry Primal was a good experiment... I would love it they made FC more historical, like being a Samurai in Japan, or during the Russian Revolution, or maybe even Napoleon times. Or a Western Far Cry game, settling the colonies, carving your own "state." Maybe a time travel machine and back to the Jurassic Era, etc. A first person Assassin's Creed lol. Far Cry always had something of the fantastical or surreal in it, so I'm against overly serious or too grounded a tone.
Or 1941
@@L39T Indeed, that would be a good era too. I just got an idea... Far Cry: Biblical. You're back when Jesus was born and everyone thinks you're him. Or you're playing as Jesus but with weapons. 😆
Love these type of videos. Really interesting and great for opening up discussion. News and reviews are always great but not many discussion pieces like this out there. Great work.
a few times I would be doing a mission and I'd clear out the village/area and I'd go to the other end of that village (not even 150 metres) and go back and they'd all be spawned back in the same places. A step down from FC5
I tried to play 5 after not playing any of them since loving 2 and... two things I absolutely hated. First, no ability to rest or pass time just KILLS immersiveness. Second, the pacing and constant "anarchy" makes the game so ADD-addled that there's no time to breathe. Also: let the dog get in the goddamn car.
Thank you for giving primal the props it deserves its also 1 of if not my favorite farcry , i achieved the survival of the fittest for it (100% completion-expert difficulty-survivor mode on-permadeath on ) and in its defense the survivor mode they added later it wasnt there on the games release but it completely changes the game just to name a few changes .....no minimap ,less resources in the world , you cant carry as much,crafting isn't instant but now takes afew seconds, the nights are darker and last longer and more predators come out , the owl cant dive attack or drop bombs , health is capped at less bars , there is now a stamina bar , fast traveling is somewhat limited ....im sure im forgetting some others its been afew years but its such an underrated game
I feel like far cry 3 did a lot to make engage/relate to the character. You felt Jason's struggles and Jason evolved with you and the gameplay, it hit that perfect spot between far cry chaos and villainy and a good story and character and world building
I really want to see them incorporate some of the ideas from the underrated Boiling Point: Road to Hell game. They seemed to a little bit in Far Cry 2 with weapons jamming and breaking. I want that to return, but also allow the player to remove and swap weapon mods and require that they find specific ammo to weapons not just generic "rifle" or "pistol". Survival in fights can get tense if your best gun runs out of ammo and the enemies are carrying something else. You can also use that in accordance with factions, maybe rebels prefer rifles with a certain ammo and government forces use others. Also I think you mentioned this but be more restrictive with inventory which I think makes the survival more visceral and stealth more required. I miss games like Boiling Point and it is a shame that some of their ideas never made there way to many other games, maybe Fallout a little bit. I can see a lot of world building you can do with some of these systems.
settings definitely the biggest thing that could change this redundant feelings with FC5. he can go to many kind of offworld shenanigans like Blood Dragon, but instead pick another regime, another backwater country/places, etc, etc. Here some examples for an unique settings:
+ Steampunk Fantasy
+ Arabian Desertpunk
+ Waterworld Type Places
+ Mix Medieval with Weird Techs
+ Hollow Earth Type Places
+ Grimdark Dieselpunk
+ Alien world with alien characters
+ Abandoned titanic mothership
+ Alternate timeline of IRL history
+ "Turok-like" Fantasy
+ Sci-fi Biopunk world
+ Post apocalyptic Medieval sci-fi (western & eastern)
+ Western Weirdworld Fantasy
+ Magicpunk world with aliens & fantasy races
Hell, they can go "Cyberpunk with high fantasy" like Shadowrun & I would pick that over this typical backwater regime setting like FC6.
I vehemently disagree. These different settings are essentially reskins or mods as ACG put it. Ubisoft gives us new settings all the time but, in the end, it's still just a cycle of clearing a map/checklist while collecting junk, and being inundated with HUD information.
@@BlueisNotaWarmColour My arguments for this would be:
+ different settings would definitely provides new looks & feels, both visually & story-wise.
+ Unique different settings can provide unique features & gameplay elements that not yet exist in the franchises. Hell, maybe something similar but with new twists like ACG suggested.
+ Unique settings provides a lot more potentials in the storytelling & themes.
Many FC fand love Blood Dragon because how different it was with other FC games. It has its own unique styles & some elements that unique to Blood Dragon only. Far Cry game franchise is essentially an open world action shooter in isolated setting. It's such broad descriptions but somehow Ubisoft still unable to make the franchise feel fresh with each titles, ever since FC3.
Is a more grounded & hardcore tactical shooter system gonna help the franchise fresh again?? Idk... Maybe... But then again, it's a different market/audiences & likely will compete with other hardcore FPS games.
Knowing Ubi, they might give the next Far Cry the live service treatment like they're doing for future Assassins Creed.
1 - Make a simple street ghetto type setting
2 - make it about hand to hand combat with abilities
3 - add cats from space
4 - include Jeff
5 - 80's Music
Hobo simulator is already out
for me the problem isn't really gameplay but more so the story telling of recents farcry's have been lackluster. the few gameplay issues I do have is I can't customize difficulty. I want the game to be harder in some areas like ammo ecenomy but not so much in fighting the actual enemy or the ability of having the choice to make the enemy smarter or not which is hard to do in a open world game but that's a dev problem not a me problem. all I can do is wish for things.
Yeah, dude. I just want better characters that interact with themes the way Metro Exodus did and a better story. Keep the Far Cry gameplay relatively the same, but make me care about the characters and understand the motivations of the people in the world. That's why Metro Exodus is my favorite game of the Xbox One / PS4 generation.
@@Contredanse The West has a problem with campiness in their games... Hard to take them seriously.
I would love a a Far Cry exactly as it is today but set in a Fallout or Mad Max style post apocalypse. Another planet would be amazing!
I love your content. I love your witty smart banter. I think you have an amazing ability to make really high level analysis and deliver it with humor and style but have a piece of constructive criticism I think would make a substantial improvement.
Break up the rhythm of your commentary a bit. Add some pauses. Take a breath and let your points breathe a bit. You have this relentless, steady, staccato like pacing with your commentary and editing that it can almost feel exhausting and overwhelming. It's as if your script has virtually no commas, periods, or paragraphs. It can at times sound like you're just speaking in one immensely long run on sentence.
It's like the audio version of watching a Michael Bay film that's just an endless string of jump cuts that never allow your brain to process what it just saw or in this case heard.
Again, I love your content. I think your virtually a mad genius and your brain is definitely working on higher level than most. Adding a little more dynamics to the soundscape might make your brilliant commentary stand out even more.
Ubisoft has a serious problem with how they seem to be designing their games. They are chasing the trend of Battle Royals with both The Division and Ghost Recon franchises and while I know they will end up releasing Frontline and Heartland I think they are going to find that the people who played Division(1&2) and the recent Ghost Recon games are not the people that will be playing these two BR titles. Sure they may win over some converts from Warzone, PubG or Fortnite but the experience that long time GR and Division players want is to keep playing those games, not to play a game with the same name in a Battle Royal scenario. Back to Far Cry, I think Ubisoft is chasing their own trend Far Cry 1&2 were new and different 3 had an amazing villain. And they think the same formula will work forever when what made Far Cry 2, in particular, great was the engine's fire mechanics and different perspectives on the same story for each of the playable characters. Rant over.
i also think ghost of tsushima messed up grapple, was looking forward to that so much :(
I whole heartedly agree with this assessment, and I hope Ubisoft makes a pivot for Far Cry 7.
Far Cry 3 refined a lot of systems and was really fun. Far Cry 4 was more of the same, bit more polished. Far Cry 5 was exciting because it was in America and dealt with a cult. I'm one of the minority that actually loves Far Cry 5 and I regularly go back to it. I liked some of the things done in New Dawn. This is the first Far Cry that I'll wait for a sale for. Aside from the excellent villain and liberation story line, nothing about the gameplay systems is making me want to pick this up. The gameplay systems doesn't make this feel like a full-blown sequel. I'm not trying to disparage the hard work the devs put into this, but Far Cry needed a shakeup after 5, and this wasn't it.
I really agree with most of your points, but i think an important addition would be that FC5 really underdelivered with the cult stuff. Personally i don't care about it being in USA, which means, for me, it was more of FC3 and FC4. I love FC5 for it's open world and freedom, which is why i return to it sometimes. But now looking at FC6 which is more of FC5 which is more of FC4 and 3.... common man, listen to ACG Ubisoft! But people vote with their wallets and so far FC6 seems to be doing pretty good...so i don't have high hopes for any substantial changes in FC7
And that is why Far Cry 2 and Primal are still the best Far Crys. You actually dynamically interact with the world in a meaningful way on a regular basis with risky traversal rather than safely tick boxes and clear the map of its gameplay potential.
I first played FC Primal, FC3 then FC5 and now I'm hesitant to give FC6 a try immediately after launch
FC6 lets you choose and equip any weapon you have unlocked simply within the inventory screen, whenever you want. You are practically carrying every weapon you have.
This was the first far cry that I didn’t even consider getting. Didn’t care. Ubisoft is truly developing by the numbers, like Disney remasters, I think you can only sell the same games so many times till people catch on. My biggest gripes
- story sucks. I feel nothing for protagonist or characters (explains faceless/genderless insert)
- villain is clearly the tent post, villains are villainous, big surprise.
- map has zero character, interspersed with cut out mission areas. Everything else is the same.
- Core gunplay is repetitive, weapons don’t feel unique just a different frequency bullet hose.
- collectibles are the laziest, most phone it in mechanic. I got a page, WHO CARES!?
- graphics have managed to look the same for over a decade. How did they even do that? 🤔
The graphics are nowhere near the same. The last Far Cry game that existed at that time was Far Cry 2. If you think that or even 3 looked even remotely close to FC6 you probably need glasses or have terrible memory. Or course it's available on PS4 and X1, which have hardware comparable to fairly good (not high end) computers from 2010.
COD is the worst
"graphics have managed to look the same for over a decade. How did they even do that?"
Don't really agree with that at all, but they've also pretty much been on the 8G consoles for almost a decade. Certainly the visuals have been refined from FC4 to Primal to FC5 to New Dawn to FC6 in that time, but you can't expect complete overhauls when you're still stuck with an Xbox One and base PS4 as the entry points.
While of course this is opinion based, our protagonist in this game is is better than any in the previous far cry games.
I've only played one far cry game, blood dragon, which I really enjoyed. I bought it because visually it was so different from any other game I had played. I loved the 80's future dysyopian look as well as the over the top dialogue which I found very funny. Never played any others and I'm not sure why.
great choice, 3 (the game that got reskinned to make blood dragon) had a great story, 4 wasnt bad either, but blood dragon by far had the most personality
What could have been really cool (I haven't finished FC6 yet but I doubt they've done what I want to propose) is timeline development. Let's say that the initial year, that you begin FC6 in, is something like 1945. Everything suits the time, as is appropriate.
As the story unfolds, the world ages. Suddenly, midway through the plot, it's 1968 and a lot changes, including your character, and what hardware they have access to. It sounds silly on paper but this is something I would like to see in modern RPGs. Dynamic timelines and player character aging.
Love it any time Mad Max gets referenced. One of my favorite games of all time.
What a desolate, nasty and awesome world it had aye... That desert was it's own character.
Primal is still my favourite, due to the gun centric homogeneous game design being thrown at a world without guns and still working well. Too bad that as a slight departure from the formula it wasn't as popular, and now we are stuck with this prosaic built for the masses tripe.
that game was weird , there is no reason to do majority of those missions , they're just there to make the game longuer
@@musashi542 I think you just summed up the whole ubisoft brand in one sentence, good work 🙏🏾😉
It was very engaging in a way the other games in the franchise aren't.
Primal was something actually original and very fun the weapon gameplay was solid and the story was surprisingly understandable, shame its hated and underrated
@@kloakovalimonada I like it more than 4, but Primal was unengaging in one way the others aren't. The story.
Something I really want to see now that the hardware allows for it is a game with a teleporter for a protagonist. Literally look at a plain / cliff / rooftop, press a button, and BAM, you're right there, even if it's dozens of kilometers away. However, no UI map, no objective markers, and no fast travel points. Only maps would be found in the world as "You are here" signposts. That way you really need to learn the world, but since you can travel so fast getting lost doesn't really lose you time. The idea occurred to me when playing AC Odyssey, using the eagle and a cheat tool to hop around the world in a similar way, it was a very cool experience I would love to see fleshed out properly.
Bring back multiplayer with a full fledged map maker. And bring back Predator Mode.
Predator Mode was so much fun back in the day.
Time for a remake of Far Cry 2
@Violett Fem violett, where you from?
@Violett Fem it’s the best and most realistic in the series, the physics are unmatched even to this day.
Far Cry could start by being more serious and story driven. Remove the wacky childish attributes. Gta for example went from gta4 one of the best dark stories I've ever experienced and amazing realistic driving physics to the most childish arcadey easy game in Gta5.
Ghost Recon became a boring generic open world with lackluster story. Open world does not need to be implemented for every game
GTA4 is good, but overrated. Saints Row 2, which came out at the same year, was a better game in every regard except for realistic physics and graphics. I played GTA4 again recently and ever though its a well made game with very well written characters and voice actors, the story is a depressing slog that majorly overstays its welcome. It's just Niko apathetically working for one douchebag after another for hours and hours until he finally reaches his character climax when he confronts Darko. I just felt like so much of the game was filler and the open world itself was incredibly mediocre and felt totally unnecessary. Saints Row 2 on the other hand had a lot of very dark moments in its narrative while also balancing them out with some zany wacky moments as well, plus the open world was WAAAAAAAY better than GTA4's was. I think Far Cry should go down the SR2 route and make more grounded serious moments properly woven into its wackiness without it being jarring.
I love the environments/worlds that Ubisoft creates (heck, it is why I keep buying and playing their games), but I think that your assessment of how we go beyond what worked in the past to what we should be seeing in the future is spot on.
One major move: eliminate the map. Get rid of it. Completely. No replacement for it. Simply build a Far Cry game around the absence of a map and all the implications that come with that. I think the rest of the game would fall into place
One thing that stood out to me so far about fc6 is when you start a mission it goes to a generic background while the voice over plays. It seems like that might have been one area where covid constraints played a role where devs didnt have time to add those voice overs into a real world “cutscene” style implementation.
I’ll tell you how: by going back to the damn original games, evolution serum should be introduced again. Doesn’t have to be Jack Carver again but at the same time why not. They either need to do a full remake of the first game or a sequel to it with Jack, or at least continue Dr Kriegers work and have some other hell hole be experimented on with the evolution serum.
Very good points. I really enjoyed blood dragon but I think it was because of Michael biehn being the voiced character and it was such a departure from the normal world. Same with primal's world. I felt 5 had some different ideas with the bunkers and such. New Dawn had great ideas but hated the leveling system. I think ubisoft is afraid to depart too "far" from the past titles world's due to gamers expectations of what a far cry title is.
I’ve been thinking since Far Cry 5, how cool would it be to play the villain in Far Cry 7. Perhaps you must have political conversations along with killing rebel insurgents and capturing regions, and increasing your power to become a dictator of a country. Just a thought so not complete my flushed out, but wouldn’t that be so cool?
Yep, absolutely
This is very late so probably won’t be seen but here’s my thoughts anyway: I’ve played every far cry since 3 except new dawn so I definitely consider myself a fan of the series, I’m loving some of the ideas for tweaks you’ve suggested especially regarding the AI, I think most Far Cry fans would agree that’s the biggest problem with 6’s gameplay. My suggested change for 6 specifically which I’m hoping and praying they actually provide in an update is fixing the lack of challenge and immersion you have regarding loadouts. Being able to switch your weapons by just going into the menu at any point, EVEN IN COMBAT, is nothing short of ludicrous. Choosing what weapons you take out with you in previous entries was really well done because you actually have to think about how to approach different scenarios, it’s such a basic feature that games have been doing since forever it astounds me it’s even an issue with a modern title from a huge studio. Got to be fixed!
If you were shocked that Farcry 6 seemed the same. You must've been sleeping under a rock for the past 10 years.
Love some of these ideas. Small but impactful changes are the way to go I think.
This is an excellent video. I would love to see more "how games can improve" type vids. Keep up the great work!
I honestly want to see more of a return to form for far cry. Something more akin to far cry 2. I think why that game is so fondly remembered is because it almost tried to take a more realistic approach, and everything seemed fairly grounded within a world that had set rules and boundaries that made sense. In far cry 6 you've got from the beginning, avery evil antagonist and the tone is set almost immediately. Civilians getting murdered hell, he essentially has a grandmother shot in the face. But then the next couple of missions have you using a neon chicken to Peck people to death. Not to mention the gun customization and some of the weapons you get later on feel so ridiculously cartoony, and honestly that's been a slow descent for the series. it never originally was so over the top, at least in its stylistic presentation of weapons and characters.
Some might consider that good thing, but personally I'd like to see a far cry game that has realistic recoil, where the devs did their research on how guns are supposed to handle, and the player has to maintain their weapons or they become useless. Granted how quickly weapons deteriorated in far cry 2 was a bit laughable. Additionally half of the battle shouldn't be fighting the enemy but fighting the environment to get to the enemy. Again I think far cry 2 is so beloved because it in a lot of ways stuck to this idea of brutalist difficulty (it's not overly difficult or like a mil sim) in a grounded world. To me it feels more believable to be shot and have to pull the bullet out of your arm and bandage yourself while fighting malaria, in a world that feels real. There weren't even civilians in far cry 2, and yet the feeling of oppression and sadness throughout the landscape was tangible. It's better then smoking a cigar and putting it out on yourself and then getting a crocodile to eat someone.
12/10 video. Thank you man improvement is sorely needed.
I think people were excited for Far Cry 5 when they announced it was taking place in the USA. It was a fresh breath being somewhere we were all familiar with. I think we were all slightly disappointed when it turned to a religious cult that seems to have been overplayed in multiple TVs movies and games as well. It felt like “too easy” of a villain and theme to go with.
What if the games were brought back into the USA, but maybe during revolutionary or civil wars? If every war game can have the nazi German army as the bad guys, why not the British or Confederates?
Or if instead of religious cults, there were cannibals who kidnapped people from small towns. Or a terrorist/activist group set to destroy a port at the gulf of Mississippi (some kind of fake New Orleans) where the camps are set in swamp lands.
There’s a real connection to a plot when the setting takes place in our own backyard. If we’re trying to bring players excitement back, why not start there with history revisioned or a threat in areas we’re familiar with again. The series doesn’t need to stay in the US, but I think the familiarity will help.
I’m in the middle of playing Sekiro right now. Replayed Far Cry 5 a few months back. Went to play FC6 last night and put it down and went back to Sekiro….
Base building, outpost customization, more weapons, customizable guns for hire, specific stores found in certain areas of the map, etc. Bring back the outpost liberation cutscenes from 5 too.
And boy do I have more ideas that could serve Far Cry 5 and 6 better. Spoilers though.
As for Far Cry 6, there could be multiple endings based on each central character of the game since it is all about taking control of Yara and steering its future towards something. Each character gets a "good", "neutral" and a "bad" ending.
These characters are the Monteros, Legends of 67, La Moral, Maximas Mantanzas, Clara Garcia, Juan Cortez and of course, Diego Castillo, Anton Castillo and Dani Rojas.
Each of their 3 endings concern them getting the opportunity to rule Yara their way and it all boils down to a plot twist that should have been in the game: Dani is the bastard child of Anton Castillo, but since her mother didn't sire a son, she was either killed or left for dead which explains WHY DANI WAS AN ORPHAN IN THE FIRST PLACE.
When Dani discovers the truth, it's the players choice then to whether she will tell this to anyone of her allies. And obviously, they won't react as kindly which can lead to the neutral and bad endings.
How can this be measured as a progression? Well, again the player's choice comes into play on what faction does she come help more: Libertad (if this the player will choose either Clara, Juan or Dani in the end to rule/come out on top), the Montero family, Maxima Mantanzas or the Legend of 67 and La Moral. Different progression bars for each factions that continue constantly with no end decide that factor and although all factions untied will go on to Esperanza to take out Castillo or you know, the player could just join him for sick reasons hehe I'll get back to that or you could just have nothing to do with the factions who are likely to take things far with their campaigns and just take care of Diego in either ruling together or escaping to Miami together. Anyways, those separate progression bars made to whether a player's choice helps a faction a bit more and that faction will rule at the end.
I have so many more ideas for Far Cry 5 AND 6 it's unreal.
@@memecliparchives2254 Make a quick video covering your ideas
I love the Far Cry "formula". I know most people are tired of it, but I could play 100 more of these games and not get tired of them.
...same for me, too. Good having a break after a FarCry game, good that there will be a next one.
Raise your expectations, you deserve it.
Saame
Wow...I finally get it. I hope the developers figure this out. Far Cry has always been a favorite for me. I was really sad when my friend and I kept disconnecting in Coop in the latest Far Cry... despite our games running absolutely fine outside of coop. As well as our internet being more than sufficient.
Alot of the purists of assassin's Creed, alot of the Ubisoft players that are tired of the franchise same formulas thruout all games won't admit it but I can respect the reasons they completely flip that series into that Witcher
I really dig your thoughts and ideas. This franchise needs some of these changes or tweaks.
And when that happens, watch everyone complain and bring up "identity crisis"lol
Really come to love and respect your opinion (you string words like no other) I feel the same exact way about far cry acg is one of my top five
Far Cry 2 is great. FC Primal is great too. Now I wonder, what those two games have in common? First of all, both are serious games (Primal looks a little goofy if played in normal difficulty, but for sure becomes a very serious experience if played on survivor mode without wallhack). Second, I think both stands out for being their own thing. Primal not relying on big villains, not being about power fantasy, throwing out all the overpowering weapons and putting the player in a real sense of danger (the game even has second chance and permadeath for true immersion); all of that shows that exists another lineage within the series. If Ubisoft wants to make Far Cry exciting again, they should stop looking to Jason Brody and Vaas and start looking to what made FC2 and Primal both great games.
Far Cry 3 (in my opinion the worst of the series) have merit in being his own thing too, but his commercial success started an obsession, and every game since (except for Primal) tried to be the new FC3.
I agree
Love these kind of videos. Keep them going karak!
First .. Keep up the good work
Your reviews help me decide if I will buy the game or not
Ubisoft should go for the Terminator movie license. Just like blood dragon, a Farcry: Terminator game would work exceptionally well.
That’s worse than an actual robotic apocalypse.
@@joshuaDstarks How so? If the gameplay is akin to FC2, it should work.
Putting an end to all the goofy stuff would be a good start...
As someone who absolutely loves the Far Cry formula and who bought FC6 almost immediately, I get a lot of these points. I do think the world traversal is a non-issue though, quite the opposite, its something that Ubi handles better than most developers. The player can easily get around most AC/FC games, without pain or without worrying about save spam or reloading. As such, the player feels no restrictions about exploring or going to the most far flung corners in the way you felt in something like RDR2, a game that actively sought to punish even thinking about exploration.
There's definitely something to the forgettable player characters, and I think its been trending more forgettable. At least, from Jason Brody to Ajay Ghale to 'nameless Deputy', Jason and Ajay were both at least voiced and had motivation to do what they did. Deputy wasn't voiced, had no real attachments to ingame characters, nor any real backstory. Might as well have been a floating gun arm and backpack. I'm not sure about Rojas yet, since I haven't really delved into FC6 yet, but I like the change to 3rd person cutscenes and return to a properly voiced character.
On the setting, Karak has a point, you can copy the Far Cry formula into any number of settings, from alien world to post apocalyptic to post-post apocalyptic to scifi dystopia and more. FC5's Lost on Mars took us to Mars, and while I thought the interplay between Hurk/Brobot and Nick Rye was fun, the planet was mostly just empty.
Basically a lot of the stuff you are mentioning was already present in Far Cry 2.
- Competent AI. They flanked you, had a whole weapon kit available to them instead of a designated role (which let's be honest makes half of the enemies in the later games a non threat), no colour coding to them. In fact there is almost no colour coding in that game (the colour of the trucks from the 2 factions is the exception).
- Something like the drones in Breakpoint? The patroles in FC2 of jeeps and trucks were a lot more present than in later titles. Furthermore (this goes back to the AI) they drove right over you whenever they got the chance instead of stopping their vehicle and trying to get out of it to shoot you like they did in 3 and onwards. That revving engine noise is something many Far Cry 2 players still have memories from.
- HUD. Well it's the prime example of one of the best HUDs ever made imo. No clutter on the screen. Ammo counter and life bar even fade out of view when you are not in combat or pressing a button that's related to its information (like reload, heal, or something like that). The map you hold that in your actual hands.
- The overabundance of fast travel points which leads to players not actually traversing the world wasn't present either. Hence why some like to call it Far Drive. But at least I felt like I was playing a game and not a menu simulator.
On top of that narrative and gameplay were actually connected and felt cohesive. Only Blood Dragon gets away with the ridiculous over the top gameplay they went for since 3.
This video makes me want you to do a walking the walk for MGSV!!!
Number 1 priority is an engine update so they can actually create/design something/anything different
Idea for the prologue and the characters motivation if it goes another way. You are an ex military man who joined a humanitarian/relief group with a woman you meet and marry. She makes you a better man and you put it all behind you. Now you're in some country where the people are being neglected and abused in every way by the president/dictator or whoever. Now that you're helping some of these people they're realizing how bad they've had it and are wanting to rise up against the dictator but you are telling them not to because it would end in war and death. It's too late though because he's already heard rumblings about unrest amongst the people and how it's all about your group being there. You're out one day for supplies and calming down various protest groups etc when you get back and find your group's center of operation in smoke and flames. Theres soldiers strewn about whats left of the building and you take each down quickly but non-lethally as you work your way through. Each time it's just a simple chokehold or wack to the back of the head and when you get close a cutscene plays. You're at the back of what was the building but its blown out and theres a heavy armored vehicle parked at the gap of the wall with headlights blasting in. The President/Dictator is there with a handful of men and what's left of your group is there with your wife kneeling on the ground watching and listening intently. He tells them that the building is gone, their supporters are being dealt with, and that this is there OPPORTUNITY to appreciate his mercy and leave the country. He turns to leave and your wife says something to him about how it's only a matter of time before they or someone else takes over and he gets what's coming to him for what he's done to his people. You think he's going to leave still but instead he turns with hate in his eyes which he quickly hides behind a sneering grin before saying something about how he will do the same thing he has always done then.... What he has to. Then before you have a chance to react he grabs a gun from one of his men and shoots your wife. You can hardly believe it and are frozen blank faced. He gets in his transport after throwing the gun back and telling his men he's changed his mind and to kill the rest and dispose of the "garbage". As soon as he drives away the camera focuses back on the wife and your character snaps. All his training and unfocused rage from his time in the service comes back to him and he rushes in to save the rest of his group and friends. He grabs the nearest soldier and their gun before killing the first man he has in years in a gruesome takedown telling his friends to take cover and taking out the last few soldiers. Those of your group who stay help you establish new connections and a new base of operation. Its the emotional impact we need after 3 hit so hard and the rest frankly faltered a bit. UBISOFT READ THIS LOL. I even added it to multiple videos as i really like its premise.
Great discussion for innovation ACG personally I still liked FC6 so far but yes its time for major improvements for the next gen title
So many true things are said here and I wish we'd get to see those changes in the future. However as popular as Ubisoft are, not many people realize that they're not that big/successful of a company. They are even smaller/less successful than CDPR and can't even be compared to EA or Activision. Now when we look at the work Ubisoft does (all the games they maintain and develop), teams that they employ and compare those to the company's metrics, it seems to me like they might've fallen behind and started becoming a AA game company with the image of AAA one, because they're hanging on their IP's popularity.
_"They are even smaller/less successful than CDPR"_
Revenue as of 2020:
CDPR 500 million
Ubisoft 1.5 billion
Epic Games 4 billion
EA 5.5 billion
Activision 8 billion
CDPR and Ubisoft are *FAR* from small fry. All those I listed are huge, fantastically successful companies.
Ubi shits out what, 3 AAA games per year?
There are several separate studios under the Ubi mantle, and many Ubisoft-branded games are at least a partial collaboration between them. It's a fairly common setup, but the design-by-committee method seems to stifle any creativity that we may have otherwise seen had the guidelines not been so obviously narrow. Situations vary, but don't get too caught up in Corp-speak like "AA/AAA" or other nonsense. It's a distortion of reality.
All this means is that if we let our voices be heard maybe we can change something
The solution to traversal you describe is essentially what Breath of the Wild did only with a grappling hook instead of Link's body, and I am actually surprised that Far Cry has not taken any cues from that game. I think its an almost perfect analog, just in first person.
As an artist in AAA we are in a constant fight with designers to try to decrease the amount of color coding or obvious traversal decal stuff. We always want it to look and feel more natural but design would be happiest if the whole world was gray block with nothing else in the level but decals! It takes really good designers to know when those decals are necessary and when they are not. Overall there needs to be more creativity within game design in general. Most designers just do what they were taught and don't think too far out of the box. Also play testers often find the most simple interactions hard without sign posts so...kinda screws the rest of us over.
I wish all the video game developers would get together and try to standardize the buttons. I realize different games have different functions so they can't always be the same but I wish simple commands like jump, shoot, open, etc would be the same buttons on different games.
I'd love to see them bring fc2's map system back. Literally just a map that u can't pause. Also a stamina system similar to I Am Alive for many of these games from this to Horizon to Uncharted
Striders? Close, they're called Tallnecks :)
Maps are obviously getting players familiar with content, I like them to be given in-story by easy access. The time spent on resources is important for both developers and players.
Some story-driven games give maps asap, while others have the need of exploration to unlock the knowledge of symbolic areas. Even racing games have exploration to reward the players. To me, allowing players to explore the environment with a simple explanation of a symbolic system, even colors (lol).
Strategy is important, indeed. And as development teams grow, so does content. I guess upgrades go here too, the longer you play the tougher your avatar gets. Progression is what keeps a player coming back...
I'm baffled that you included Zero Dawn's Striders as a good "dynamic mechanic". Those are just Ubisoft Towers(tm) that move around AND you can usually only climb them when they are in a couple of conveniently placed spots where environments just so happens to fit together so you can start climbing one. You could have the same effect if you add two doors to a tower and randomly lock\unlock them as time passes.
Though I would like a new "spot the area" mechanic instead of the usual "stand in spot to have map area unlocked" thing. Phoenix Rising did a better job with its Zelda-like binocular system where you could mark stuff yourself, it was just TOO powerful(Working through walls). Just take that system and build on top of it.
I want them to take a red dead approach to open world. Slower. Going through Cabinets in houses. Camping
I really think they should make the next Far Cry a proper RPG where you have extensive narrative choice throughout the game and can complete missions in multiple different manners, some of which might not even involve violently gunning everyone down or sneakily machete slicing their throats and rather could be resolved totally nonviolently. I also think it should allow players to align themselves with or against different factions and in turn allow them to play as more of a good guy or bad guy depending on their preference. Lastly, I would like it to be set in a fictional version of Thailand since I think the quirkiness of that part of the world would lend itself quite well to the tone of Far Cry.
for me i loved all the far cry games, but the one thing that has given me the most fun and game time....arcade! it was BRILLIANT (i know its technically still there) player made maps, some very funny, some very troll, and some amazingly made. BRING ARCADE TO FAR CRY 6 PLZ
For the reasons you explained is why I don't really play Ubisoft games. My first game from them is Far Cry 2 (or 3?) and loved it a lot at the start. Overtime it was way too repetitive it got frustrating causing me to drop the game. Years later played Primal, and again loved it, but the same thing happened down the line. It seems Ubisoft doesn't care enough to work in the nuances of a game enough to make it new or different
Ubisoft seem to be focused on streamline the game loop to such an extent at this rate the next Far Cry game will consist of a few button prompts while the games plays itself. Following an activity, tbd player will then scour the area for materials to build an upgrade at a camp that never feels meaningful.
Far cry 1 tropical island
Far cry 2 afruca
Far cry 3 tropical island
Blood dragon 80s neon tropical island
Far cry 4 tibet
Far cry 5 american rural area
Far cry 6 basically cuba, also tropical
Far cry primal tibet with cavemen
I feel like they can keep trying to mix up the areas and the formula little by little. Every new game should have its own theme and new enemies. I wouldn't mind more time hopping or more syfy shenanigans. If done right of course.
Having fun with 6 so far, mostly due to the setting I think. They did a lot right with the world, and the music is freaking great like really really great. But I will say about 6 hours in I can see it starting to slow down a bit... we'll see maybe it's just a speed bump. If I get 20 hours of legit fun out of this I'll be happy. 5 reeeeeeeeally slowed down for me after a about 12 hours.
Honestly the setting is the only reason I'm still keen for 6. It was the reason I never played Primal, and couldn't get into 4 or 5.
@@Aussie_Tom yeah it's been fun so far but I will say the map is huge like I've only been to like 10% of it so far so we may be looking at a Valhalla situation here idk. BTW what I did was sign up for ubis subscription service. It's like 16 bucks to play the ultimate edition and seeing as it's a far cry game I'm sure I'll be done with it inside of a month and just cancel my sub. Just an idea if you're not sure about buying but semi interested.
Honestly, one of the things I really want in Farcry is for the player to feel like he/she has a meaningful impact on the game world. I can take over an enemy fuel depot and be told it's good for the resistance, but who cares? Telling me has no impact and I don't care. If I take over a base for my faction I want tangible changes to not only affect the game world but also my overall playing experience. Give weight to clearing out bases and checkpoints. Also, make it much harder to do so. Then, it feels like I'm accomplishing something and building something.
Another idea, make the actual military a character in the game. Military forces can constantly be upgrading their gear, abilities, etc. However, if I destroy a training camp maybe a lot of soldiers are now green and less effective. If I destroy an ammo dump maybe they don't have specialty rounds for a while. If I destroy a general supply dump maybe they don't get as good body armor. If I destroy or capture a fuel dump maybe they have less vehicles and tanks to respond with (now they use horses more). Maybe there's a choice between capturing a location or completely destroying it. If captured, maybe the particular faction in the area gets it and is better loaded out. Stuff like that gives weight to the map and gameplay for me.
I think Ubi could make a good James Bond game with the Far Cry engine. Since there hasn’t been a really beloved JB game since Goldeneye in the 90s, I think one is overdue.
I like the Far Cry formula, the big sandbox but I wish Ubisoft would stop trying to redo Far Cry 3. Vaas was a great villain but not every Far Cry game needs its Vaas.
I liked the FC5 setting but hated when the game would take me out of my fun to do the main story. New Dawn had some interesting ideas but not a good story.
It’s like people complaining about a COD campaign. As long as it’s not a reskin fans will be fan. You know what you are going to get when you purchase either.
My favourite far cry games have been the spin offs, blood dragon & primal.
Even if they never going to do any big changes to the gameplay, they should at least be unique with their settings/ characters and such.
I always remember the some of the surveys they sent out concerning what settings players want to see, and it’s a shame they never did the cool ones from a book dragon sequel, to a Jurassic part dinosaur island & Victorian era like setting with vampires.
Come on ubi, just jump the shark already…
They need to get rid of their whole progression system. Its boring, lazy and overdone. Game needs an engine and graphical overhaul, DLSS, revamped and improved shooting mechanics. An entirely new progression system UNIQUE TO FAR CRY, better writing, a more serious narrative, a more realistic aesthetic and no more stupid single player microtransactions or monetization beyond story DLC.
I was thinking they can go two directions, either bring back Carter as a 007 type character, or expand on FC5 and go full post-apocalyptic. Either way though, I would tone down the wacky. Look at Uncharted or Tomb Raider for a Bond type game, or Metro and Fallout for a PA type game. A game can still be seriously fun even if it is more serious.
Only Far Cry I bought was 5, got the gold edition I think, did the first area, realised the climbing towers and clearing that area wasn't for me and gave it to my friends son. Just felt like I was wandering about killing stuff to justify more wandering.
"Press X everywhere simulator". LMFAO
The farcry games have no interest in me... however, I will say Farcry 3 Blood Dragon was something I definitely wanted to try and enjoyed a bit. Though it's not a perfect game or anything but was fun in how it made fun of some stuff, plus the cool cyberpunk look to it back before cyberpunk was all the rage. Was hoping for a sequel eventually but so far nothing.