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- You asked, and here it is. This is the preview look at the returning WASR-3 AK pattern rifle, chambered for 5.56x45mm (.223). The wASR3 is originally built in Cugir, Romania and then imported and remanufactured in the USA by Century Arms International (CAI).
In this first video, we take a first look at the example we received, going over its features and possible drawbacks.
Next, we try out different .223 AK magazines, including from Serbia, Bulgaria, Poland, and more.
Finally, we look inside the machine and compare it to the standard WASR10.
So should you consider this Romanian AK? Lets find out together....
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Honestly I think the most exciting part of this is the mags. The M85 mags are currently the only steel 5.56 mags that exist in any significant quantity here, but the importation of these could change that.
Zero mag interchangeability is definitely a deal-breaker for the WASR-3.
Bulgarian and Polish 5.56 AKs are basically cross-compatible as far as I'm concerned. If the mags don't fit immediately, they'll at least wear in.
The Zastava M90 is a bit more picky, but at least their OEM polymer and steel mags are readily available. I've also been able to modify WBP mags to work in my M90.
AC unity and PSA 556 mags also work in the Zastava M90. Also the polymer Galil Oralite mags work and with a little additional material on the rear tab, standard Galil mags work.
@@jeremiahcherry5283 I haven't tried the AC Unity mags because I don't like the LRBHO. But I've heard they work.
I also haven't tried the new PSA mags yet, but I am optimistic!
And I haven't messed with Galil mags at all. I'm not interested in adding material.
@@christopherdolan7330you can Dremel off the bho, but they’re decent, affordable mags.
I hope in the near future Polish/Bulgarian is standardized
@@MagicalTrout the imports probably won't change, but hopefully US companies like PSA and KUSA will use the general Bulgarian/Polish magazine pattern. It would be nice to have more US magazines available.
I recently purchased a Beryl. I only want/need one 5.56 AK. Have only had a chance to shoot it once with 240 rounds, but so far I love it.
Was thinking about picking one up myself. What barrel threading did you end up going with?
@@Winterb0rn88I got mine from Atlantic Firearms. I think it’s the standard 14-1LH threads? I know AofA is offering choices. I don’t run suppressed and rarely if ever change the muzzle device.
@@Winterb0rn88A cool thing Atlantic did though is they milled the bayonet lug to make it functional. I believe prior releases got the neutered bayonet lug, but could be wrong.
@@Matt_Moore Right on! Thanks for the info and the reply, man!
I can't argue with you about need because that's based on your circumstances, but you only want one? What's wrong with you? I want every AK variant that I see. :)
Atlantic emailed me an said they are not chrome lined barrels. As far as mags Apex was selling the romi weiger copies and you can always get el cheapo promags that fit and function without modification for some range mags if needed.
Thank you, i suspected that but wasn't 100% sure.
My ole SAR 3 is still running great all these years later. Bought weiger mags when they were dirt cheap from classic! I want one of these too!
Dammit!! The only reason I watched this video was to see how to put the magazines in one of these AK-things - I seriously can't figure it out. Probably "safer" not to know, though, so...Thanks, TH-cam, for keeping me safe!! I am so happy you all do such a great job filtering knowledge for the greater benefit of the users that pay your bills. Also, more cats, please!
My polish 556 ak I have to push in with just a little rock back- less rocking than on a 762 ak
At the price point on these hell you can get a PSA AK 101 akm for as low as $699 for a polymer version, with better mag capability or for the same price get a WBP Jack as another guy commented.
And we reviewed the 556 Jack last year too.
As always, GREAT video Misha. $1199 with an incredibly uncommon mag type just ruins it for the public. These should have been coming in at $900 to undercut the Zastava rifles and they should have invested in a stockpile of mags, especially steel (again undercutting the M90 steel mags) and THEN this would have been a hit. It would beat out PSA as well in terms of price.. but with Zastava and PSA offerings.. this rifle falls short (for me). Had they made these under folders or provided some other unique aspect that the rest of the market didn’t have (aside from the junk pioneer 556 underfolders) then perhaps these would be tempting, but as Misha showed here, the inability to use readily available mags makes this a hard buy.. there isn’t any real draw compared to the competitors on the market.
Honestly, grabbed one because several folks asked about them and well..not a ton 'new' on the market this summer either. As to what Century should have done with these, come on, when has that company ever really done the wise thing?
@@misha5670haha yeah true, Century doesn’t really operate all too well. If they ran like PSA (in terms of supply and price points) they could make a big comeback.
They truly should have brought in heaps of steel mags for these WASR3’s.. steel 556 mags are quite popular, again if they undercut the cost of Zastava they could make these fairly tempting.
Enjoy the WASR3 man, you gunna post any videos? I’ve seen these in the past, but it’s be nice to see the newer imports and their accuracy/reliability.
I was excited to hear these were coming back but for 1200? Yeah thats a hard sell. I know PSA has its issues but you can get their AK-101 for 700 bucks pretty often and their "AK-101" which I think is basically the same as a WASR 3 for 650 or less.
Yeah I got my 101 from PSA and shoots like a top. All for literally half the price and better magazine compatibility too
Thanks for yet another GREAT video/review of another cool offering to is AK guy's!
For the price, any other 5.56 ak would be better. Especially this not coming in with a chrome lined barrel. If I could pick this up for 750-850ish like a wasr10, I'd consider it.
Seriously, 1200? Hard pass… century trying to cash in on the 556 ak craze. They can keep em at anything over 1k
I would put this at a price at least 100 usd less than a WASR 10 the issuies and lack of chrome lining just screams to me that century asked for wasr-3s as cheap and fast as possible not even giving then the time to order in 5.56 mandrels that work with their chrome lining for the CHF.
So it was kind of thrown together.
Just like any 5.56/. 223 I don't like them under 18" as it was designed for a 20" I own 4/5 ARs and a3 are 20s CHF CL FNH barrels I have a Vietnam clone a modern one a a fallout new Vegas wood furniture clone an 18" FN sop clone (they all have free float tubes or handgaurds ) I have a T91 similar to Mishas but I bought a 80% AR lower with T91 stampings but all the other parts are from a T91 website and it has a CHF CL I think Taiwanese 16.5. If I could get 18 or 20 I would.
It's why the M90 is so nice at 20" with a heavy profile barrel and beefy 1.5 recover.
I have alot of verps in different barrel sizes some made to look like AKs some more like RPKs (the front conversion is not fun)
But the RPK length 5.56 shoots at crazy distances same with the 7.62x39, 5.45.
Then I have a. 308 and 7.62x54R veprs also.
They came in very cheap and many with a share back same with the siagas.
The M77s are also sweet rifles.
I still use a full sized Draco with a side rail I riveted in, magnified red dot with a bake lite grip and surplus wood front grip, sandwiched a tiny pic rail between them for a small flashlight, and put some pic rail on the back truinion so I could affix a folding triangle brace.
I take it to the range quite often and in that short, reliable and accurate package you don't loose a whole lot of velocity from a 12.5" vs a 16.5" I don't drive a truck, but a stick shift car and it folds up nice will use a 20 30 or 40rnd mag with barnual, Vympel or tula 8M3 but no other Tula as tose 8M3 rounds are nasty.
If I used an AR of a similar size compared to my folded Draco in 5.56 it would have alot less power and reliability problems, if you want a short AR best to use .300BLK
The Romanian trigger, you can give it a great trigger job also.
I've never had to use it but when you get out of your car with an AK with wood forgrip and steel mag the iconic look has just made people run lol.
I mean I clean and look after all my firearms but it's nice to know if I could not the chrome lini g would stand up.
On my Draco and WASR I stripped them down and the park is perfect for a layer of KG ak black gun kote.
I did get a bottle of paint from Russia but don't want to waste it. But whatever park the Romanians use when you take apart the weapon and parked pieces then give it a wipe with alcohol it's a perfect surface for spraying then put it in the oven.
I give everything a little debur before a do it.
Ran my case through mine + 200 rounds. No malfunctions, guess I got a good 1🤷
Why is Wasr 3 not chrome lined when wasr 10 has been for many years?
@@D0yjvdf well the WASR3 used to be, if you can snag an old one go for it
I'd go with FB Radom, WBP, or Zastava instead. I barely trust Century to open up a magwell. Also, if an AK is going for a "classic" look, I want laminate furniture.
I believe the very best of the 556 AKs is the FB Radom and that’s reflected in its price.
The price is the problem, I’m seeing this for 1200 for that price why not pay a bit more and get the beryl or the wbp for same price. 800-900 would have made since
2nd this
And a third
The Beryl is going to cost 30% more but I agree with you.
Only 64 came into the country. Paying for rarity at that point
I love my GP/WASR-10/63. Wouldn’t mind a 5.56 AK though cause of the ammo availability. Great video as always
How bad is the ammo availability right now? I ask bc I'm looking at a wasr in 762 but with what's going on right now I know I will have to buy at least once a week to get to where I want as far as ammo stock.
@@donsal.t.1765 What's left of Russian ammunition imports will be ending this September. Right now 7.62x39 runs about $0.40/rd. In September I expect $0.50 - $0.60/rd for the ammunition coming in from Kyrgyzstan, Bulgaria, Turkey, and so on.
@@donsal.t.1765 not just availability but cost as well. I can get good brass cased 5.56 and 223 for cheaper than I can get what used to be cheap steel cased 7.62x39
Misha you are pure gold. "Ribbing it for our pleasure" had me rolling. Thank you for teaching us all so much.
Always informative 🧠
this guy always selling me on stuff
My suppressed M85 is an absolute joy to shoot. WBP mags work well but of course the steel Zastava mags are great. Looking to buy a M90.
They probably brought it back because they didn’t have anything that was a 556 in their lineup, and people are familiar with the WASR3
Hearing "Hi Mischa here !" means a New Video, Oh Boy ! :D
Rob ski had polish steel 74 mags at his store forever. Havnt looked lately to see if he still does tho. But the followers klayco47 uses to convert the 74 mags to feed 556 works really nice. He's said they have worked flawlessly even running at matches. One of the newer wasr10s I picked up a couple years ago in 762x39 didnt have any wobble in the piston. But as u no after a couple hundred rounds they tend to loosen up
Picked one up a few months ago and yup it’s a Wasr. Swapped out the FCG for a surplus one because they supposedly have longer bolts that mess with the RAK FCG over time.
Also all my 5.56 mags fit without modification. Circle 10 5.56, WBP 5.56, FB Radom 5.56, AC Unity 5.56 all fit
What is the date on your WASR3's trunnion?
@@misha5670 2020
Living in Washington state, I missed the boat on the 5.56 Ak's, but it seems like they are in that niche category anyway.
Glad to see they’re back. If the right deal comes along maybe I’d consider it, but as it is I’m happy with the two Beryl rifles as far as stamped receiver 5.56 AKs are concerned
I wonder if wasr 2 would come back would be pretty cool
The non dimpled Magwell receivers they use just rub me the wrong way I think the WBP Jack akm rifles in 556 is the better option
It’s “cugeer”! 😁 Done my conscripted military service about 50mi from the Cugir factory, in the Socialist Republic of Romania, cca 1985. I’ve bought my first WASR 3 yrs ago here in the US. It was Made in 2019 incidentally. With much improved QC, when compared with my 1964-made service issued service gun.😏
Excellent, and very informed, review👏 especially the yadda-yadda comments!🤗😁
They don’t send cleaning rods, bc the AKs don’t need usually one😂
Got the Schmeissers 60 rounds mags, just working perfectly 👍
That mag compatibility is not good IMO
I really wanted one of these,love my wasr 10, but the magazine thing is a complete no go.
It is a major consideration for sure.
I've starting jumping into 556 aks this past year. I've been one of the purist who has refused to have aks that don't run 762x39 or 545x39. Especially 545x39 being my favorite. But my 545x39 has gotten low. And 556 aks are so snappy compared to 545 aks. But the wbp jack 556sr will take any 545 mags. But honestly I put a kns piston in it because it was ejecting casings way further than any of my imported 762x39 aks. I felt like it was beating itself up on the inside. So the kns I put in it to ease that problem. But magazine compatability is very important to me I don't want a firearm that is finicky to alot of mags.
Mag compatibility is big for me :/ looks Beautiful!
My 1st ak was a wasr . Was defective so i returned it . Own a vepr now 😊
I had an SLR 106 and sold it over magazines. Then I got an SLR 104 and sold it because of ammo availability. I have a Draco pistol that I converted to SBR and she is as solid as they come.
The magazine compatibility really surprised me. I have a 1999 SAR3 and it takes every 5.45 and 5.56 mag that I have. I’ve used everything from Plum mags to Circle 10 waffles with no issue. I really don’t know why they wouldn’t at least make these new import compatible with the polish mags we have available now.
Recently just took 2 Romanian SAR3 mags and ground them down to fit a WBP Jack 556SR, not a single reliability issue thus far! Steel 5.56 mags are nearly impossible to find for the Bulgarian sized mag wells, had to have some steelies for the Jack though
What pistol brace situation 😏
I really want an AK in 556. Should have bought one years ago
if they replace the trigger group the atf counts as 3 parts, so mostly likely it's stock, pistol grip, muzzle device, and trigger group for 922lr
I'm just not sure if hte stock is USA or foreign mfg.
I have a somewhat unrelated, but still an AK question! Lol. I bought several more new ALG EL triggers and now I am seeing reviews that their hammer is too hard (and shape) causes bolt carrier peening? Same with a g2 trigger. I don’t do much shooting so no problems yet. Do you suggest I not use the new ALGs and remove the g2 from a draco as well as ALGs in Arsenal SAM 7 and Zastava M92 & 85, etc. So that’s a lot of trigger replacements if ALGs are problematic. One swap if just G2. I also read that filing the hammers to a curve solves the problem, but I would be worried to do that right myself. Feedback is appreciated.
How do the aka5 promags work in this rifle? Do they run? Seems to be the only magazine option in stock that will fit without modification.
sorry, I don't own any promags personally.
While the Wieger mags are well made they're hard to come by. Wish they would've chosen a different mag option.
Nice 😀😎
If it's like the SAR-3 you can use AC Unity 556 mags with a little bit of sanding
Great rifle. I've been using AC unity 5.56 mags with good but not perfect results. Occasionally the bolt doesn't pick up a new round. I never got any reliability with the weiger style mag. The mag well needs to be opened in the corners a little bit at the very back in front of the mag release so that other mag types can fit without binding. Easily done with a dremel. I've also had good results with the new promag 5.56 type with the steel inserts, but I only have one of those.
A Cz 58 556 video would be nice too
Haven't had one of those around in years.
I have a SAR 3 nice rifle some of the metallurgy looks a little funky but over all I like it. The guy I bought it off of gave me a bunch of galil mags told me to shave the side down some so it would fit. I haven't tested it yet to see if it feeds correctly but neat either way.
He also gave me a bunch of the east german mags they don't work to well in the SAR but in my Bulgarian 74 works like a dream even with the 556 follower.
Circle 10 arsenal mags work flawlessly in my wasr 3.
Mishaco have you tried ac unity mags? There are Chinese dimension AC unity mags now as well. I’ve had great luck with my AC unity mags.
Not something that i really have. My mags are all military.
@@misha5670 I get that but I would take mine anywhere. You ever need one of them an a Zastava 85 metal mag to try let me know
Hello Misha, some questions: how do the various currently produced AKM and yugo pattern .223 guns like the WASR-3, M90, and Jack 556SR get away with a 45° gas block? I thought 5.45 experienced bullet shearing and accelerated gas port erosion with a 45° block, so why aren’t these guns in a ballistically similar chambering experiencing these issues? The Polish military was evidently wary of the issue as evidenced by the 90° block on the Beryl. Keep up the great videos!
Just because a gas block might be 45 degrees externally, doesn't always mean that the gas port drilled inside is too.
Ah, thanks for the reply
When you say “look at the front” on the circle 10 mags… is that a do as I say, not as I do?
Man I would love a 5.56mm AK with a straight underfolder stock, only pioneer arms makes such a beast and I wouldn’t buy that junk.
If its not chrome lined its not an ak! Tell me im wrong.
two words: Yugo M70
is the barrel chrome line CHF?
What's the hard part about milling out the magwell? A moderately steady gorilla with a milling machine can do it.
Glad i got a M90, lack of mag comparability and the crappy finish makes it a no go for me.
Yeah and it seems like the WASRs are closer in price to the other imports than they were a couple years ago with no better finish. All the other imports have a nicer finish.
Hey Misha I no you no way more then me about firearms hands down. You are the person I have learned all my knowledge about aks. But I always thought that the blonde looking wood furniture on those newer wasr10s were American. I see where you Said the handguards were Romanian but the stock is not. I didn't no Romania made ak furniture that was that light light blonde color. Does that apply for the wasr10s in 762x39 also? Any newer 762x39 wasr10 I've picked up I've thrown the furniture away because it looked like American made cheep crap. Because I always put surplus furniture on my aks for the looks and mostly for the durability
Back in the da y, we're talking 20+ years ago, KVar had some Romanian stock sets that were blond, blond, blond! And they even had the dong foregrip.
They did scale these to a 545x39/556×45 cleaning rod.
kinda neat to see 5.56 AKs becoming more popular in the US. I would like to pick one up at some point, but it probably wont be this one, considering the mag availability
I have an old import wasr 3. If you carefully sand off the spot welded lug on galil mags, they work decent.
i bought one made in 2006. the guy selling it included 6 mags and a bayonet for 1100 credits. the tapco trigger in it sucks tho
Hope to see you shooting it soon!
Are the trunnion, bolt and barrel (cold hammer) forged?
Me too
@@misha5670 I think I might have edited my comment before you saw it but do you know if the trunnion, bolt and barrel are forged?
this channel makes me want to stock up on guns and cats hahahhaha
@@donsal.t.1765 Yes, forged trunnion and bolt, and CHF barrel.
@@misha5670 oooh hell yea that was the nudge I needed to get one of those. Cheers!!!
What about the new rock and lock PSA mags in 556?
How did these slip into the country without a big splash? That’s cool
I get that 5.56 is abundant, but I sure wish Cugir would have brought back 5.45.
With no source really right now for new 5.45x39 ammo; i don't think any importer is going to order firearms for that caliber ATM.
Easy way to tell if the barrel is chromed lined. Look at the muzzle. Is it shiny chrome?
I have a video on TH-cam to show you how to tell.
Easy for you; not something I can do though.
Dude the 545 by 39 magazines working this
Got one. The gas block and front site are ugly canted. Disappointed but rifle ran well over a couple hundred rounds. It groups nicely at 50 using irons. One Circle 10 out of 5 tried fit and functioned - no mods. One of my 6 Romanian Weiger style mags (from Apex Gun Parts) had FTFs.
I really hope the barrels are CHF CL
Is the WASR reliable ?
We're about to find out.
I'll stick with my Beryl. I had one of these years ago the only 5.56 ak I regret selling was my 106FR
People have been gushing over the Beryl so much I went ahead and bought 2 of each caliber.
0:00 are they good or are they still using cast parts ?
Cast parts aren't the problem. Saigas too were built with many cast parts.
@@misha5670 so why did people stay away from WASRs?
Is it here because of the events going on in Serbia?
nah this showed up 6 months ago....
@@stoegerstewie8351 Exactly, imports take a long time to happen.
Romania and Serbia have a history of not getting along so I think it's unrelated
@@marklasco3810 I think what he was meaning. Was Romanian only sending them now to fill the void from zastavas temporary ban. Guess he just didn't quite realize how long the process of importing firearms actually takes.
Most likely due to the import ban on Russian ammo.
Where’s the cleaning rod ?
Apparently they didn't add it lol idk why
I mean it's nice more are coming in chambered in 5.56 (in Europe the chambering is for 5.56 and .223) many nations will have an ammo limit and most will buy surpluss ammo. I love AKs but 5.56 for me I want at least an 18" barrel and with the barrel profile of the M90 it's great.
I don't think the import ban will go on for that long and the wording was banning weapon exports not sporting firearms (if uncle Sam does not take servias side then ban hammer) I can see in the future if the ammo situation does not improve AKs being chambered in .300blk also as you can get used 5.56/. 223 at the range, can often get scrap lead for free or renman factory's could make it for a lower cost. From a relaoders point .300 is cheap and can be made on a 74 or 5.56 rifle with a new barrel and if 74 with new mag followers(i can't find them anymore but they used to make them and in sure someone could make them) or 5.56 mags.
I know US chambering in AKs is just wrong but it's better than none.
After the 7N6 ban most 5.45 was very underloaded as in 7.62x39 speeds and the bullets themselves I doubt had any yawing or fracturing.
Steel case 7.62x39 will dry up unless something is done.
But since most ammo plants are making nato cartridges for Ukraine and their own forces plus others.
It may be some time or never until we can see new imports of 7.62x39 steel case come back at 30cents a round or less. Or never.
5.45 may become an obsolete cartridge in the US and only be made by 1 or 2 specialist company's for a small fortune.
5.45 has always been obsolete in the USA.
@@misha5670 I think if 7N6 imports kept up it would have been great as it was crazy cheap, my uncle worked with an importer and it ended up I think 5c a round in a very large quantity. They even made AR barrels and where thinking of making AR mags or lowers that could take 74 mags or polymer mags that would accept 30 rounds, some wanted to make. Bolt action varmit rifles in it apart from the pricy East German bolt action 5.45x39
7N6 is great and I'm happy I have a crazy stockpile of it.
When it was banned the Russian lead core stuff was not very good.
Many people took 7.62x54r for granted when it came in as the cheapest centerfire round that was a good hunting cartridge and I'm happy I stockpiled that for the Finnish mosins and a SMLE I had converted.
Surplus 7.62x25 ammo was great I'm sure it was meant for SMGs I have always loved the tokarev but my uncle he had alot of parts kits mostly Romanian but he got them in bulk back in the day for about 40 dollars.
In his parts bin he found a bolt and trunnion that could not be used to make an AK so made a blowback 7.62x25 one.
It never gets used now due to how pricy that ammo is now.
In the past even with .223 and 9mm most of the time I would shoot Russian steel case.
Never had a problem with 9mm
With ARs if they had a decent chrome lined barrel and upgraded extractor spring no trouble.
Even if they did not a chamber bath every hundred rounds would make it run just fine.
With warming relations with Vietnam and I think no sanctions with Bangladesh.
It's possible we could get Vietnamese AKs and ammo from Vietnam and local made Type 81s and ammo from Bangladesh.
I wish that Pakistan would export 7mm mauser (it's not a prohibited caliber so it's the go to full sized cartridge)
Same with all pistol ammo and .222 .223 and what they call 44 bore and that's 8x33 kurtz but I think with new laws maybe .223 and 8x33 have been banned due to conversions.
7.62x39 could become obsolete or a specialty caliber in the US as the US made stuff is very expensive, not far off .308 and .300 being cheaper.
It's possible Russia could fracture and or for things to calm down but I don't see that happening anytime soon.
I always had a feeling they would eventually ban Russian ammo after the saiga ban but especially after the Vepr ban.
7.62x39 will not become a rare specialty round in the US. More expensive than cheap steel case yes, rare no.
@luked2767 Russia isn't going to fracture. Stop getting your talking points from US / NATO / CIA / EU media.
@@railfanningpoints2.045 Russia having some break away states would be to most extreme outcome. But the war ending or power change its possible within time ammo sanctions could be liften but if the war in Ukraine stops and the Balkans is not in a state of war then maybe eastern Europe could produce. The US sells weapons to Vietnam so it could sell ammo. Not sure about Bangladesh. It would be nice if non-ap milk Steelcore ammo for rifles (I know they banned 7N6 but could not import it even if we wanted to) but they wanted to ban green tip 5.56 but the ban was overturned.
It would be nice if a rule was made allowing mild steel core back in for import as just like with those Chinese SKS rifles from Albania since it was in a 2nd nation for so long in sure the armourys of many nations have alot of Chicom and other 7.62x39 with a mild steel core, sure it could be Corrosive but that's why they have chrome lined barrels and cleaning out the primer salts from 7N6 was not a big deal, I always clean a firearm after shooting (suppressed with 7N6 can be a nightmare)
Yes I'm sure the US will continue to produce 7.62x39 but it will be close or the same to .308 prices and hornady was talking about making brass case 5.45x39 but I have not heard much but it can be formed from .222 brass and a 5.56 bullet resized.
But I would not be surprised if we see for example PSA coming out with an AK in .300BLK they can form it with once fired .223 / 5.56 and it does not need a thick jacket due to the speeds.
I have 1 .300 upper with an FN barrel but it has not been shot much.
I only own 2 ARs a 20" Vietnam clone and a 20" with laminate wood furniture.
Technically I own an AR15 lower as in it was an 80 with the T91 markings then a T91 upper from a website (I don't think any or many parts are from the wolf A1 upper)
Yes it does like wolf gold but I'm sure export of that has stopped.
I don't think China even makes 7.62x39 anymore and norinco does not make AKs, most assault rifle exports and aid is norinco made "m4" with Chinese brass case 5.56.
Apart from any steel case I can find for a good price i ordered a few cases of Turkish 7.62x39 last year for a suspiciously low price and it was not lead core lol.
I do hope PSA purchase the machinery to make steel case bimetal at a low cost but I'm almost sure all of It is currently in use.
Sure I can buy some special made decapping pins that will 80% of the time break the berdan anvil on steelcase 7.62x39 cases, I use a large primer and a drop of thinned loctite to keep it snug then use a light cast bullet with the lube grooves removed, a home made gascheck tool I own so I can make them out of empty cans then powder coat them and resize.
As long as I keep the cases for use in only one firearm they can be reused many times, I don't use a tumbler to clean them just give the outside a wipe and spray some Wd40 in the bag.
I can do it with all pistol calibers or anything slower than 7.62x39 if faster I can mess around patching it but it's nor worth it.
I did hear that in Romania that they converted some AKMs to 6.5x39 "grendelski" as in it had the same taper as 7.62x39 but necked down to 6.5 and it just needed a new barrel but they could only use I think 95g or 100g bullets but it's was apparently very accurate and reliable with a good bit more range (less than 6.5 grendel but not much) if they made ammo and barrels available I would be interested.
I do love my 18" 5.56 Zusa M90 and M77 in .308 plus different Sigas and Veprs I have not yet converted in NATO calibers but it would be sad to pay alot for US brass 7.62x39 as a treat.
I got into AKs and building AKs as a teen with my uncle and it used to be so cheap. Still have alot of pre barrel ban parts kits and he purchased alot for at under 50 a kit.
Now it's ironic that you can buy a high quality AR for alot less than a good AK import or even surplus parts kit with parts and non-US CHF CL barrel.
I have plenty of ammo (my uncle hoarded it and he hardly shoots rifles now due to his bad eyesight but I kind of feel guilty shooting ammo I can't replace
I may of missed it in the video. But the finish, and fit look awful. Again I may of missed it in the vid, but is that bear steel in front of the gas block?
Welcome to Romanian AKs
$799 maybe
Ak 74 magazines with Pod arms followers is the way with my M85.
Definitely not bad but that price is high
I tend to agree
Just get a beryl for a lil more. If this was $800 or under sure but it’s priced way too high
Yep
@@polyteclegendgoldentiger1225 “a lil more” is 30% but I agree.
I have seen these in person and the quality compared to the price just doesnt justify the purchase. Zastava's are so much better of a deal. I do have a wasr 10/63 that was made in 1963 with the traingle stamp.
It looks like another AK binge buy to me.
I've already got a century arms AK-74 from around 2000 2008 or 9 it's a Bulgarian The one that had the bad safety lever on it I would just probably doing no on it for the price for 1,000 to $1,200 that can buy me a lot of rounds for my '74
I rescued a Golani from the pawnshop for a friend, and he passed and left it for me. Thats as close to a 556 ak ill ever get.... plus the Sig 556...
I like Magpul's 7.62 magazines. Why no 5.56 AK love?
Need
if it would take 74 style bulgarian or polish 556 mags, I would like it, since it doesn't, I have to pass
Good looking firearm
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just when I get away THEY SUCK ME BACK IN
I love my wasrs. I literally only own romanian made aks. I love cugir guns, I can't wait to get my hands on one of these babies. I missed my shot on wasr2's so I aint letting this one get away
The Polish Beryl is the only decent designed 5.56 AK in terms of reliability and quality.
I’ve heard that the Beryl was actually designed for the 5.56 cartridge.
@markp4401 Yes, I believe that to be correct. The 5.56 Beryl doesn't exhibit the poor feeding reliability problems that other 5.56 AK-based rifles have. It is the only 5.56 AK worth purchasing.
@@railfanningpoints2.045 Yeah it’s the most expensive stamped 556 AK but you get what you pay for in this case. Buy once cry once.
Hope th3y import a 8 in barrel
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They made an AK shoot a 22 caliber bullet. Make one in .300 HAM'R and it'd be frigging perfect. More powerful than 7.62x39 and several other calibers. Brass is easy to find cuz it uses 5.56 brass and it uses .300 blackout magazines. I'd rather have a Zastava if I'm gonna have an AK.
I like Zastavas but keep in mind they’re a bit chunky.
@@markp4401 they are but that's good. Still lighter than my old SKS. Put polymer furniture on the gun and it'll weigh even less.
@@ChargerusPrime Right and Zastava USA offers M70s with polymer furniture and some models have rails too.
@@markp4401 I wanted that one originally, the archangel stock adds almost a pound to the rifle.
.300 HAM'R is only produced by Wilson Combat for one of their AR15 variants. Outside of Wilson Combat fanboys, nobody else cares about it, even most AR owners don't care about it. It's too proprietary. Intelligent people who want a .30 caliber AR for hunting just stick with .308Win/7.62 NATO since that is versatile. Nobody but you is interested in a .300 HAM'R AK. If anything there's a more logical argument for a 6.5 Grendel AK. Zastava was supposed to be working on that.
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Cugir is in my option the best Akm u can buy . Never had a jam or other malfunctions . 7.62x39
I agree. Love mine.
Romy aks are very underrated
Yeah in 7.62x39
I have a wasr 10/63 made in 1963 with the arrow triangle stamp. It says cugir on the side too. Is it any good and worth much? The action is buttery smooth and shoots nicely.
I get whatever the f I want 😎 probably PSA 102
Honestly, I just don't see the value here. $1200 for a WASR with expensive proprietary* mags? No thanks.
*yes, I know that one East German gun that they don't make anymore was where these mags came from.
Not worth $1200. No way!
Agreed. I'd pay $700 - $800 MAX.
2 youtube Ch's (Henry, m26 lemon grenade) have posted Saiga 223 superior for Mag interchangeability.... good day
I will stick with AR15s for 5.56 nato and import AKs in 7.62x39.
Yay Nato getting Finland and Sweden is finally pays some dividends!
Ak-47 in 7.62 x 39 is always the way to. Buy a different gun, I say, if you want to fire 5.56. Just my opinion.