I sharpened my golf grooves (unexpected results)

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  • I SHARPENED MY GOLF GROOVES with the baddest GROOVE sharpener I could find! See what happens to the results when PGA GOLF PRO Rick Shiels takes a groove sharpening tool to his beloved Ben Hogan 7 iron and his Vokey SM6 Wedge!
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  • @brewssssss_
    @brewssssss_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +611

    You were my inspiration to start playing golf. You made me fall in love with the game so thank you for that. Keep the great content up. Plus I’m jealous of ur Nike deal 😍😂

    • @RickShielsPGA
      @RickShielsPGA  5 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      WOW what a great comment! I'm going to pin your comment for the next hour!

    • @addehoke
      @addehoke 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Same with me, also started playing golf last summer thanks to Rick.

    • @RickShielsPGA
      @RickShielsPGA  5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Thanks for watching 👍

    • @Buzzjugs
      @Buzzjugs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Get a room 🙄

    • @dilligaf24824
      @dilligaf24824 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is a very pleasant comment.

  • @alcyone9361
    @alcyone9361 4 ปีที่แล้ว +357

    Have had one of those sharpeners for a couple years and use it on my Vokey wedges a couple times a year. It doees make a lot of difference around the green. I also just checked my mail box and my PGA tour card didn't come in again today, so "non conforming" is not one of my top worries.

    • @kevinpohlner2840
      @kevinpohlner2840 2 ปีที่แล้ว +155

      If they think the sharper grooves are illegal, they would absolutely hate watching me kick my ball into better position.

    • @matthewcollins9855
      @matthewcollins9855 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@kevinpohlner2840 The foot wedge is a legitimate club!

    • @dirtabd
      @dirtabd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kevinpohlner2840 Is this Donald Trumps secret account? Youre a known and corroborratted serial golf cheater with a long sourced history.

    • @m2karateman
      @m2karateman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@matthewcollins9855 I am the master of the no look foot wedge.

    • @hotfiyah
      @hotfiyah 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kevinpohlner2840 Thank you, I appreciate the laugh this morning 😂

  • @kyus1974
    @kyus1974 4 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Same safety glasses i use when sharpening pencils.

    • @stumarston6812
      @stumarston6812 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same ones I use when I use the blender.

    • @joeeastwood6472
      @joeeastwood6472 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      same one I use when I pick my teeth...

  • @christiangray9654
    @christiangray9654 5 ปีที่แล้ว +962

    Did it bother anyone else, the way he opened that amazon package

    • @jameskerr7828
      @jameskerr7828 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yas! Jaysus what was he thinking?

    • @JGunit
      @JGunit 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      That's how I trim my toe nails

    • @stox9630
      @stox9630 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@jameskerr7828 you sure seem gay

    • @jameskerr7828
      @jameskerr7828 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Thankyou Stox!

    • @jameskerr7828
      @jameskerr7828 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@stox9630 omg you seem so awesome and strong and Russian and homophobic. Just my kind of guy! Is there a way we can meet? I love how you make You Tube a better place! 😘

  • @krabboy22
    @krabboy22 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I have done this before on my wedges before the season. It does work, and they are conforming if you dont go real deep. Keep up the great content RS you da man!!!

  • @txpatriot7044
    @txpatriot7044 5 ปีที่แล้ว +403

    If you get pulled over with an illegal club tell the club police they are a friends and you dont know how it got in your bag.

    • @randyporter3491
      @randyporter3491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      know itall LOL! Plus, there’s an amendment in the Bill of Rights, that guarantees “The Right to Bear Wedge” and “Freedom of Club”. Can’t remember which amendment, but I’m sure I read that somewhere. 😁

    • @Alex-ie4mh
      @Alex-ie4mh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Or just say it identifies as a regulation putter.

    • @ABCDEFG-bk9gx
      @ABCDEFG-bk9gx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just tell them you picked the club up on the 3th green, someone forgot it.

    • @dunningkruger3774
      @dunningkruger3774 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@randyporter3491 it's the 9th and 18th amdmt.

    • @gomezgolf
      @gomezgolf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ABCDEFG-bk9gx "3th"

  • @thrice1888
    @thrice1888 5 ปีที่แล้ว +561

    “I’m going to put a little bit of lubricant on it and go to town”
    That ain’t the first time! ;)

    • @ROARINGAJR1996
      @ROARINGAJR1996 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      you sir have made my evening lol

    • @seanplourde2575
      @seanplourde2575 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Oh man needed that

    • @youtubehollywoodhank
      @youtubehollywoodhank 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Oh man is that hilarious!

    • @Listman11
      @Listman11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Are we still doing "phrasing"?

    • @RyanGoodwin1
      @RyanGoodwin1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I literally just choked on my wine.

  • @treyhunt8935
    @treyhunt8935 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For some reason you made me love the sport so much more, I used to play here and there, but since i started watching your videos last year I have played more in the last year than i have my entire life, plan on keeping it up this year. Thanks Rick!

    • @RickShielsPGA
      @RickShielsPGA  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow thanks for the amazing comment! Keep getting out and playing golf 🙌

  • @colemanadamson5943
    @colemanadamson5943 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Glad you mentioned the club name, "Ben Hogan" as he is my favourite all time golfer. The man laid down his life for his wife and got his body crushed by a bus what was on the WRONG side of the road. Badly broken up, Ben Hogan fought back and won tournaments again. What a guy! He has passed but kudos to his family. Mr. Hogan is not forgotten.

  • @TheJccesar24
    @TheJccesar24 5 ปีที่แล้ว +247

    The elephant in the room no one is talking about. ...
    What on earth did you hit with the toe of that 7-iron?!

    • @DanceySteveYNWA
      @DanceySteveYNWA 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I thought same..

    • @andrewfarlow6520
      @andrewfarlow6520 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Rumour has it that this club is what the Avengers used to defeat Thanos in Endgame

    • @wegapaul3616
      @wegapaul3616 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@andrewfarlow6520 awesome

    • @sssamcz
      @sssamcz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I'm going out on a limb and saying a rock...

    • @Karma-qt4ji
      @Karma-qt4ji 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@sssamcz Or cart path. In my circle of friends, if there is a rock or path or some other obstruction that could damage your clubs, regardless of whether you are allowed to take a free drop or not, we allow you to do so. We are weekend warriors who invested a lot of money in our clubs and have to buy the replacement ourselves.

  • @georgesealy4706
    @georgesealy4706 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I have been sharpening the grooves on my wedges for many years. I practice a lot so I want the wedges in top shape. I have found that sharpened grooves really make a difference in 25-50 yard range shots. If the ball will check up, then you can play more aggressively. You can find groove sharpeners that match the kind of grooves in your wedge so they stay 'legal.' We amateurs cannot afford to buy new wedges very often. The professionals get new wedges whenever they want them. So they are always playing with new, 'grabby' grooves.

    • @winstonsmith11
      @winstonsmith11 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The size of the grooves is already quite close to the legal limit, from the factory. When you sharpen something, you remove a small amount of material. You do the math. If you sharpen your grooves, your clubs are not legal.

    • @RustyShakleford01
      @RustyShakleford01 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The police gonna pick me up at the 9th hole?@@winstonsmith11

    • @Birdie-Putt
      @Birdie-Putt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@winstonsmith11 who cares if there legal or not … & if ur not a pro golfer it shouldn’t even matter.!!

  • @khozyn1
    @khozyn1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Rick, I think you need to re-test this on shorter shots (80-60-40yd), because that’s is where the biggest difference is going to be. The shorter shots spin a lot more with new groves compared to old ones. Would love to see that video in the future.

  • @thomasross1285
    @thomasross1285 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I have repaired a lot of wedges. Rick , first when you do this the face is actually deformed in. The grooves in the face have to be chiseled apart to restore the width. Then you can use a groove tool. Basically there are v groove restorers, & square groove restorers. After cutting grooves, you have to sand face to remove ridges & burrs. None of these wedges will ever be legal. It is ok for normal play, it will help performance.

  • @bastiangeissler658
    @bastiangeissler658 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thanks for the video Rick, just one little thing. Would have been interesting to see how the wedge performed on shorter pitch and chip shots. Not having that high amount of compression on the ball, that's where I would expect a bigger improvement than on full swings... Maybe in the future

  • @44318468
    @44318468 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos Ricks, this experiments you run are very creative and fun to watch. Keep them coming and Thanks.

  • @jaymenke4974
    @jaymenke4974 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Hey Rick.
    Long time watcher. I am a 4 handicapper from Toledo in the US. Love watching your videos...very informative. I love your comparison videos...especially your cheap "box clubs" vs $3000.00 set. Great videos.
    But I have a question. The new thing here in the US is "Japan version" clubs being better then "US Clubs" people say they are built better, better materials, all that fun blah blah...
    Can you do a comparison of a US club vs a Japan made club? The other thing is how much more expensive Japan Clubs are! US driver = 400.00 , Japan driver of the same manufacturer is like $900.00 or more! Can you make a video showing the differences and if Japan clubs are worth the hype and money!
    Thanks golf brother! You are the man! Dont ever let anyone tell you different!
    Thanks.
    Jay M.

    • @SkidogMedia
      @SkidogMedia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Couple reasons for that. One golf is still considered a rich elite sport in japan and manufacturers can get away with charging more. Also clubs in japan have a much higher standards they must conform to therefore using slightly nicer materials with a slightly longer process. I doubt they are actually worth that much more or are any better than clubs made in the Elsewhere.

  • @GeeYo25
    @GeeYo25 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I was curious about this but was hesitant of potentially messing up a club. Thanks for being the guinea pig for us!

  • @benjaminmanning4726
    @benjaminmanning4726 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow Rick, totally awesome video. I didn't even know this was possible.

  • @BooWayn
    @BooWayn 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great timing on the video Rick. I've been trying to decide if I want to sharpen my wedges or get new ones. Lots of good info here. Thanks mate!

  • @brianrizza2045
    @brianrizza2045 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great timing I have been thinking of sharpening or regroove my irons, thanks for the info

  • @paulh7589
    @paulh7589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    56 years old. I love this game. I always look forward to my next round. I have played at least 2 rounds a week for 40 years now. This game is fun! Whoever devised it was a genius. Even after a bad round I come home thinking "That was fun!" And I mean it. Golf is a ton of fun!

    • @rbnhd1976
      @rbnhd1976 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you heard Robin Williams old jokes about golf 😂😂😂

    • @emobassist
      @emobassist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can confirm this I only been golfing twice and absolutely loved it. If it wasn't so expensive I'd join my local course

    • @paulh7589
      @paulh7589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rbnhd1976 Fuck noooo!!!! That is one of the funniest things I have ever seen! Thanks for the reminder, I'm going to watch it right now. th-cam.com/video/_S11eKcyOYY/w-d-xo.html

    • @rbnhd1976
      @rbnhd1976 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulh7589 I'VE WATCHED IT EIGHTEEN FUCKIN TIMES! 😆🙃😆

    • @paulh7589
      @paulh7589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rbnhd1976 FUCK NOOOO! . I don't know you, but we shared a laugh.

  • @Trubshaw2
    @Trubshaw2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Hi Rick, I absolutely loved seeing you do this. As a manufacturing specialist in the aerospace industry for 45 years it’s hilarious to see a golf professional trying to rework a golf club! The fact you put on safety glasses was bloody hilarious

    • @davec8730
      @davec8730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      as a 'manufacturing specialist in the aerospace industry for 45 years' i assume you will at times have had trainees under your jurisdiction.
      how many times have you had to speak to them over the lack of use of safety equipment as opposed to the 'overuse' of it?.
      i'd utterly hate to tell a young man to take safety glasses off, then look his mother in the face when he'd lost an eye.

    • @bigdoggstatus99
      @bigdoggstatus99 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, someone has never had a small shard of metal in their eye. It only takes one time, then you'll be a goggle guy too. Don't be a dumbass your whole life.

    • @chasejordan9295
      @chasejordan9295 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@davec8730 Relax bud, sharpening grooves ain't taking out any eyeballs.

    • @davec8730
      @davec8730 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chasejordan9295 we weren't talking about that, we're talking of the correct use of safety equipment, something that appears to be over your head at KFC.

    • @chasejordan9295
      @chasejordan9295 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davec8730 He was talking about the use of those safety goggles while workin on grooves. You jumped to something entirely different. There was no "we" there ya goof. KFC lol, you sayin that cause you worked there or somethin?

  • @bjkim7775
    @bjkim7775 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid Rick. Keep up the good work. I subscribed to a dozen golf channels but you're the only one I do not miss any.

  • @ramonmoreno1658
    @ramonmoreno1658 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always enjoy watching your videos. You a the first person I subscribed to on TH-cam and I think you are the best at what you do. Keep up the fantastic work Rick.
    Thank you.

  • @dtucke17
    @dtucke17 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Rick, you crack me up. I've never heard anyone this excited about a groove sharpener.

  • @danw8916
    @danw8916 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The ball toss at the end of the vid is gonna keep me laughing all day. Thanks Rick!

  • @stevedarcangelo3602
    @stevedarcangelo3602 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, I was always curious about resharpening my grooves and if it would make a difference.

  • @jenky999
    @jenky999 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice to see the sharpening, I mentioned this in one of my previous comments, I find sharpening is excellent for using clubs around the green, i.e. Getting loft and stopping the ball. Keep up the great work.

    • @stewpottv6622
      @stewpottv6622 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How do you get loft with sharpening? Logic is confused.

  • @samphotoyt
    @samphotoyt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have that same sharpener. The key is not how deep you go, it is how well you sharpen the edges. Think of it like a knife, you are not trying to make them deeper, if anything you are making them very slightly wider to get that sharp edge back. That way you are both conforming and effective.

  • @richardhazen1393
    @richardhazen1393 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been waiting for somebody to make this video!!!! Thanks, Rick!

  • @rongilbert4025
    @rongilbert4025 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have used the same tool for at least twenty years and love the results and yes, I did scuff the ball often with sharp grooves. I also use the Titleist Vokey wedges and love them. Not a real fan of the PGA going to V grooves though.

  • @willmcmurray6084
    @willmcmurray6084 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I've had a groove sharpener for some time and would use it maybe once at the start of the season , I wouldn't say it really makes much of a difference to my game at all , I simply use it to make my clubs look nice and clean , take off any burrs or damage to the grooves 👍

  • @timcampbell4342
    @timcampbell4342 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hi Rick, would be great to compare those spin numbers against a brand new vokey wedge

  • @jackalward3736
    @jackalward3736 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey rick, I’m a 17 year old golfer with a +1.3 handicap. I’ve been watching your videos since you reviewed the Nike covert 2.0 back at trafford golf centre and It’s amazing how far your videos have come. I’m excited to see what the future holds for your channel

  • @scottbrandon4855
    @scottbrandon4855 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just sharpened all my grooves. The amount of gunk that came out was surprising and I keep my clubs really clean all the time. Hoping I get a bit more zip on my shots this weekend. Cheers RS👍

  • @djjazzyjeff1232
    @djjazzyjeff1232 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    7:47 the best part of the whole video lol I hope that hurt the pride more than anything else Rick.

  • @1shawnv1
    @1shawnv1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    When your ball lands on the green and spins back to the tee box....that’s when they’ll question your dremeled out grooves 😂

    • @samiam619
      @samiam619 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL, and I mean it! 👍

  • @TheSMPStudios
    @TheSMPStudios 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, Rick!! I have always wondered about this and bought a sharpener, but never dared to put it to any clubs! I am still hesitant to do it for the reasons you mentioned, but, hey thats why you do this videos and why we watch them. Also, both you and Pete’s editing quality has improved sooo much! I have been warching since 2016 and seeng your growth puts a smile on my face. Next time I’m in England I might have to look you guys up!

  • @shirden39
    @shirden39 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this video
    Very educational 👍🏼

  • @RickShielsPGA
    @RickShielsPGA  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Q.) *What is the worst golf gadget you have bought or received as a gift?*

    • @Lucas-se3oi
      @Lucas-se3oi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Rick Shiels Golf A shot counter, it didn’t have enough numbers to cover all the shots I hit per hole😢

    • @RickShielsPGA
      @RickShielsPGA  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hahaha

    • @stevenchampion8137
      @stevenchampion8137 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not a gadget, but a corny Golf Punk style shirt.
      I have no words to explain how fugly it is.

    • @davidreid2301
      @davidreid2301 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I only got back into golf 7 months ago after a 33 year hiatus, I had no idea about lob wedges, etc, because there wasn't really such thing back in the '80's. I bought a 68 degree wedge from Pinemeadow, only to find that it is utterly useless! 😂 It's only any good as a grass cutter of for some turfing!

    • @user-qe2kj8kj7r
      @user-qe2kj8kj7r 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Practice putting green. Cheap one. Really poor!

  • @stephendayan628
    @stephendayan628 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hi
    I bought the same sharpener last year.The problem is; there are both “v” and “u” shaped grooves.
    So which do you use one the wedges?! I personally use the Cleveland wedges and just upgraded to rdx 4 56 & 60.
    I am reluctant to use the tool since I don’t want to sharpen the groove with the wrong shape sharpener.
    What to do?

  • @themacguyllc8299
    @themacguyllc8299 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Used the same device on my clubs. Didn't have a launch monitor, but I feel better about the clubs, and that's the key. Also on wedges especially, the sharpener has 3 for U grooves and 3 for V grooves. I looked up online to use the correct "head" for mine, I have a couple old clubs. Not playing in tournaments, just didn't want to "over" sharpen the grooves. Another good video, thanks.

  • @andrewlandreth9382
    @andrewlandreth9382 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for doing this. I’ve always wondered if they truly worked or if it was a Gimmick

  • @booberry6715
    @booberry6715 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    As a machinist, I couldn't help but chortle at the safety glasses. X'D Also, you might not realize this, but you likely won't need more than a few passes in each groove to reach whatever maximum sharpness the toll will provide. Also, obviously, the angle you hold it at will make a huge difference as will the pressure you apply and the direction the pressure is applied in. Then lastly, WD-40 is a penetrating oil intended to loosen parts that are fitted together, usually via threads. It is not a lubricant. For better results, use a lubricating oil. ;)

    • @LouieYouTube
      @LouieYouTube ปีที่แล้ว +5

      WD40 wasn't intended to loosen parts that are fitted together, usually via threads. It was designed to be a water displacer originally used on missiles to prevent rust and corrosion. Theres a plethora of alternative "penetrating oils" available that are specifically designed to free seized objects.

    • @dannybrennan31
      @dannybrennan31 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Personally I would use pb blaster lol

    • @exodeus7959
      @exodeus7959 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Let’s just say I did more than chortle when I saw the safety goggle’s come out. Having spent tons of time in chem labs and around power tools I just about spit out my drink laughing at this. Maybe he is just trolling us good. Do it for the likes.

  • @LongfordGer
    @LongfordGer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I reckon the spin increased slightly on each club because the groove tool will create a slight burr at the edges of each groove, thereby increasing the friction grip between the clubface and the ball.. After you strike maybe 30-40 balls, that burr will have been flattened and the extra spin will disappear! (Please do read on)
    The large grooves on the clubface are for debris management, not gripping the ball. I'm sure we can all agree that the grooves on our car tyres are to help dissipate water, not grip the road, and it's the same with grooves on a clubface!!
    If, however, you look back on where the camera is zoomed in on each clubface, you will see lots of smaller machined grooves on the surfaces between the large debris grooves. On the Ben Hogan 7 iron, the small grooves have been cut in straight lines (5 parallel grooves) whereas on the Titleist the machined grooves are in a radial pattern. This is because they use a rotary cutting tool on a milling machine to create their shallow grooves, and hence they use the term 'spin milled', and these wedges have the letters SM in their model designation.
    These little grooves have a fairly finite life, especially on the softer metals used in forged clubheads, and you'll notice the loss of spin on short chip shots around the greens. Hence we are advised to replace our wedges every year or two, and you'll also see the tour pros play with a brand new wedge at every tournament. These grooves, when new, have the effect of increasing the coefficient of friction between the clubface and the ball, which declines as the surfaces become 'polished' by repeated ball striking.
    It would be interesting to see the spin rate if you were to 'sharpen' these smaller grooves as your tool appears to have several sizes of cutting head..... The Ben Hogan 7 iron would be easiest to attempt this on as the grooves are straight, but you could experiment with the Titleist too. I would suggest you just sharpen the grooves in a small zone as it can be seen that you consistently strike the ball in the same part of the clubhead.
    I have some old SM4 wedges that I was going to experiment with by sand-blasting the clubfaces for increased surface roughness, but to date I haven't acquired a large enough air compressor for this test!
    I'm an engineer by the way....(Geek, nerd, very dull etc.)

    • @DylanCrowlGolf
      @DylanCrowlGolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Damn so you’re saying my 10 year old Vokey should be replaced? At this point the rust is what’s giving it the grip😂

  • @tylercarey4905
    @tylercarey4905 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The editing in this film is awesome. I love how you wait until the last minute to show the data

  • @jamesboggan3162
    @jamesboggan3162 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Last couple holes got interesting! Well played to both of yous.

  • @mdui2010
    @mdui2010 5 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    What about sharpened wedge verse a brand new wedge

    • @BoostingSnail
      @BoostingSnail 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I was surprised this wasn't part of the content

    • @KarlsCracklingCottonMouth
      @KarlsCracklingCottonMouth 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Usually he thinks of this sort of thing would happen? Still much appreciated though.

    • @joepal843
      @joepal843 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He did a review on SM6 wedges. He was hitting around 11300

    • @MarkSmith-lz5rk
      @MarkSmith-lz5rk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BoostingSnail same I find this subject to be very interesting and I have not seen anyone run tests on it besides Rick and this test is meh

  • @paulh7589
    @paulh7589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I can't remember which golfer said it, I think it was Ray Floyd. An amateur asked him how to impart backspin. Raymond Floyd asked the amateur how often he hit past the hole. The amateur answered "almost never", Ray Floyds' response was "Then why do you need backspin?"

    • @davec8730
      @davec8730 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      good point, but i think i'm short because i know i'll not get backspin, so don't attempt to pass the pin. i aim short and hope to run up to it.

  • @waynenewberry1032
    @waynenewberry1032 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the same sharpener, and honestly I think just the cleaning of the grooves make most of the difference you'd see. If the grooves were actually being sharpened, you'd see silver edges on the grooves of your black wedge. Modern clubs have some pretty tough plating, and it takes a lot of pressure to actually cut the metal with these sharpeners.

  • @harty33193
    @harty33193 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Back in high school, I took an old carbide blade and made a groove sharpener to sharpen my old wedges. My swing speed is not near what it is now but back then it made a pretty big difference. The course we practiced on was in rough shape and the greens were sometimes a bit spongy and hard to really stop a ball. With extra deep and sharp grooves, it was much easier to get the ball to check and stop. This was right before they changed to v-grooves on tour.

  • @davidbarnard5873
    @davidbarnard5873 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Try out some illegal grooved wedges like the spin doctor that knocked about a few years ago, you and finchy both hit the ball hard so it would be hilarious

    • @davec8730
      @davec8730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      was that the club with the 'replaceable insert'?
      the ad claimed they could get backspin when landing on concrete, shagged a ball in record time though.

    • @davidbarnard5873
      @davidbarnard5873 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davec8730 that's the one

    • @davec8730
      @davec8730 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidbarnard5873 what was your experiences with it? which country are you in?, what price was it? how many inserts were there?
      how quickly did it shag a ball? did it work on grass?

  • @bigrigsovertheroadracing2684
    @bigrigsovertheroadracing2684 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    "Go and seek professional help" -Rick Shiels 2019

  •  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant presentation great topic and as you say Rick, one has to be careful not to infringe the rules. Nevertheless I assume maybe wrongly if an Iron is used constantly the grooves will dull down and should need maintenance.

  • @6dbur9
    @6dbur9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoyed this video. One of my favourites.

  • @kinmikey
    @kinmikey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have this exact groove sharpener, and the trouble I have is determining which of the six edges available on the tool to use.

  • @jdlyons82
    @jdlyons82 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Did hitting the ball feel any different after sharpening the grooves? I doubt that it would, but I'm still curious.

  • @damonvictor7694
    @damonvictor7694 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happily awaiting a set of used Ping G15s here in Tallahassee, Florida and I'm considering sharpening them if needed. I'm handy and have a professional shop, where I regrip mine, my wife's, and friends' clubs, but I'm probably not going to mess with sharpening the grooves after watching your video. Even for you, not much gained. Lots to potentially damage; like the OEM groove profile or the club itself. Seems like a good cleaning would suffice for most clubs in halfway decent shape. Thanks for the test! Great content, you have a good mixture of trying wacky and fun stuff out and serious product, technique, and testing other things we could never afford or get to do..If you are ever playing in the Tallahassee area, we can point you to some real classic local gems.

  • @lindsayskea5160
    @lindsayskea5160 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought the exact same sharpener about 4 months ago to get the dirt out the grooves... once it was clean then I hit the course and noticed a big improvement on spin. I was hitting more greens and getting a higher ball flight. Safe to say that the sharpener was a good buy and after every round it gets used

  • @moves16
    @moves16 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Did you clean off the WD40 with acetone? If no I would think that slippery surface would remove spin from your shots.

    • @taunokekkonen5733
      @taunokekkonen5733 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also, it's a bit annoying when people try and use it as a lubricant

    • @samiam619
      @samiam619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@taunokekkonen5733 My wife tried to use it as a lubricant... she said it burned! Just kidding, Dear...

  • @swisstrader
    @swisstrader 5 ปีที่แล้ว +200

    The safety glasses just cracked me up. Like the guy who goes into a strip club wearing a condom😂

    • @golfgod1017
      @golfgod1017 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ...hey some of those lap dancers are pretty skanky!

    • @swisstrader
      @swisstrader 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      GoodRiddanceGooglePlus there is ZERO chance of a shard of metal jumping from the clubface and into your eye. Zero!

    • @thechum9653
      @thechum9653 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @GoodRiddanceGooglePlus hey who you calling chums?

    • @Natedoc808
      @Natedoc808 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You guys don’t wrap it up in the nudie bar?

    • @swisstrader
      @swisstrader 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A Google User wow. Such angry in a golf discussion😵

  • @cliffhregis
    @cliffhregis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got the same groove sharpener today, can't wait to try it out

  • @ridethespiral5498
    @ridethespiral5498 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Rick I'm currently playing a set of old Ping isi BeCu irons that I got refurbished. New grooves, paint etc. They play like new clubs and feel amazing. Well worth a look into doing a refurb on a favorite set if you really can't find something new you like. My club maker also reckons the old steel is much better in old clubs than the new steel in new irons. Supposedly most are made in China now with inferior steel compared to clubs are say in the 90's.

  • @doton2816
    @doton2816 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    "ive got a couple of old golf clubs"
    *pulls out brand new titleist vokey

    • @jjwp-ql5rv
      @jjwp-ql5rv 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not brand new though.

    • @doton2816
      @doton2816 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Still

  • @simonsmith6356
    @simonsmith6356 5 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Right, where's my bloody angle grinder???

    • @Jpgundarun
      @Jpgundarun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Use a Dremel (rotary tool) with the finest cutting disk. Illegal grooves, FKN oath.

    • @Lamster66
      @Lamster66 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jpgundarun
      If its backspin you want Sod grooves Doublesided tape and 80grit wet and dry

  • @josenegron8145
    @josenegron8145 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good stuff! Thank you for coming with all these tests. If you are a weekend warrior, you don't care about the club being legal that much ;).

  • @southman_2030
    @southman_2030 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Rick really interesting to watch⛳👍🏻👍🏻

  • @hulkgqnissanpatrol6121
    @hulkgqnissanpatrol6121 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How is the hardware calculating the balls RPM? part I found most interesting.
    No reflectors or markers that I could see?

    • @dwboston1
      @dwboston1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's GC Quad - it's a high-speed camera based launch monitor.

  • @dseveno8254
    @dseveno8254 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Would love to see what those newly sharpened blades would do to an old balata ball.

    • @josephvoll3842
      @josephvoll3842 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wondered the sane thing. I remember as a Junior picking slivers of balata out of my grooves after wedge shots!

  • @liamcottero5289
    @liamcottero5289 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi rick iv been watching your videos for years and love them you make me love this great game, I seen you at the open last year and also grabbing a cheeky Burger King after. Just got the p790s and spider x love them.

  • @kevinmontgomery1054
    @kevinmontgomery1054 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great concept, I love that you do stuff like this. Hit more shots for the tests. 3 shots seems too few to get reliable average numbers.

    • @constantexpected
      @constantexpected 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      FYI, he almost never shows the exact mount of shots he takes AND he never includes his warmup shots in the video. He has stated this.

  • @kennethjensen9235
    @kennethjensen9235 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Rick you meant to say "yes" here, at the very end:
    "Is it enough of a difference to possibly jeopardize your golf clubs and make them nonconforming for competitive use? I would say no."
    Clashes with your statement 10 seconds later:
    "Oh, my poor 7 iron. I used to love this club - can't use it in competition any more."

    • @bmurr0325
      @bmurr0325 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He said it right, you're just listening wrong.

  • @guyh.4121
    @guyh.4121 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don’t “sharpen” the grooves I clean them “well”. Considering it’s illegal to alter your grooves. I use a vice and shaft holder to “clean” the grooves. 😎

  • @petebull8233
    @petebull8233 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was using Cleveland CG! Blades for years I bought a good quality sharpener and sharpened the grooves and you can run your finger across them and feel they are sharpened and yes the ball spun and stopped quick as well the balls got chewed up. I now have some Srixon 965 s and havn't tried them outdoors yet but will see how the ball stops

  • @danman86325
    @danman86325 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Rick as always!

  • @DRyan-ci5lb
    @DRyan-ci5lb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    My friends wouldn’t know or care if I sharpened the grooves for more spin lol

    • @T-Murder
      @T-Murder 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      D. Ryan most tournaments couldn’t even check

  • @TheCommanderkp
    @TheCommanderkp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Rick could you do a review on the Kirkland signature 3 piece golf ball.

  • @MrEvanspa
    @MrEvanspa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid again. Was thinking about sharpening my own grooves, but now will hold off. Side question about ball damage: out of curiosity, about how many Pro-V1x's would you, Rick, go through in a typical 18-hole tournament round?

  • @turbogigwoof2321
    @turbogigwoof2321 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Being best pals with an assistant pro,I watched the PRO square groove his clubs,sneaked mine in the vice ,when had a chance and my 12 h,cap seemed easier to keep. A whole lot more stop but as u said chewed balata,s (old pro v1,s) up like no ones business,but we also scavenged balls off the islands that couldn’t be reached normally, posh course ,so brand new finds. Happy memories

  • @jessestefan6177
    @jessestefan6177 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I dont even play golf wtf am I doing with my life

  • @darrenkastl8160
    @darrenkastl8160 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Geeze I thaught with all the safety equipment, he was going to pull a 5 hp 3 phaze electric motor with a spindle file outta that package! Lol!

  • @alanwaterworth6464
    @alanwaterworth6464 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I´ve often used the hook shaped can opener tool on a Swiss Army knife for this, dunno if it actually sharpens them but definitely gets imbedded dirt out of the groves far better than a brush.

  • @jagaarhalverson6991
    @jagaarhalverson6991 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! You should do a review on spin doctor wedges

  • @GreenDistantStar
    @GreenDistantStar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You can never add too much lubricant before you go to town, Rick ;-)

    • @carlr2837
      @carlr2837 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He should be using cutting oil, though, not WD-40. ;)

  • @mikeyyatala6625
    @mikeyyatala6625 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    So, does that mean you're giving away your 7 iron and sand wedge now 😉

  • @carlr2837
    @carlr2837 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You inspired me to sharpen my own grooves. I opted for a much more expensive sharpener from Amazon, but one which claims that the grooves would be legal when done, the GroovEx. It is also made from a much harder metal (93 Rockwell, versus 65 Rockwell for the cheaper sharpeners), so that it will stay sharp a very long time. I sharpened all twelve clubs (not the putter or driver, obviously), and it was every bit as sharp on the last club as on the first one. The downside? It is small and has no handle, so it is hard to hold. In an hour or so, the grooves now look like new, and feel like new. Thanks for the idea.

  • @joseph7858
    @joseph7858 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks a lot! very interesting

  • @liamspillane1761
    @liamspillane1761 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why did he put on glasses like it was dangerous😂😂

    • @jhaz89
      @jhaz89 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Technically you wouldn't want a little shard of metal in your eye. Could be even a little piece not visible to the naked eye. If it doesn't impair your vision then it could only be beneficial.

  •  5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "Go seek a professional help." -Rick Shiels, 2019.

  • @davecasey4341
    @davecasey4341 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Back when I was a club pro, in the 80's & 90's, I seem to remember a company putting out some clubs with very sharp grooves and they were deemed illegal almost from the get-go by the USGA and R&A. One company even went so far as to cut the grooves at an upward angle, into the clubhead, giving the leading edge of the grooves an even sharper edge. Those really did skin the golf balls. I used to play with Spalding Tour Edition balls back then and I tried one of these clubs and it would take chunks right out of the cover.

  • @dorianfourie9252
    @dorianfourie9252 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video Rick and interesting to see.

  • @kennethfancher3009
    @kennethfancher3009 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I bought a cheap sharpener on ebay and the sharpener wore out before I got done with one club..

    • @nielsvincourt6274
      @nielsvincourt6274 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe use a lubricant, a lot of heat can be generated and can make your tool wear out fast

    • @migs6455
      @migs6455 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Happened to me too. Cheap tool steel.

    • @kenjackson2111
      @kenjackson2111 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      www.ebay.com/i/312467058506?chn=ps

    • @jakehuehn8257
      @jakehuehn8257 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      dremel

    • @josephvoll3842
      @josephvoll3842 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hajajajajajajaja! That's Funnny!!!

  • @papashuk26
    @papashuk26 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Hilarious that you had a BBRAND NEW work glove for the project.........just sayin'

    • @californiagrown7294
      @californiagrown7294 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I worked in a factory once they made us get new gloves daily.

    • @ScruffyJrplayzmc
      @ScruffyJrplayzmc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I use a band saw and very sharp carving knives and chisels daily to carve fishing lures out of wood and he uses more protection that most of the baitmaking community.

  • @jamesnorman7372
    @jamesnorman7372 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s up rick! Loved the video and thought it was pretty interesting, may be trying it on my older irons to see some difference. Would love to see a cobra f9 irons review, have thought about purchasing

  • @matthewhaniquet1250
    @matthewhaniquet1250 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video but a few questions. I have the same tool so I’m interested to know;
    1. Which groove shape did you use on the tool? And how do you know which to use.
    2. What would make the club illegal for competition.
    3. Did you wire brush the club after sharpening? (To smooth out the edges therefore causing less damage to the ball.)

  • @pettergrefslie6408
    @pettergrefslie6408 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Grooovy baby

  • @marcboughey70
    @marcboughey70 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi Rick I tried this with my old sm6 practice wedges and gamed them for a month found they spun like crazy but wedges went rusty so all I do now is buy new wedges every 4month 😂

    • @legoboyfan123456789
      @legoboyfan123456789 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      marc boughey coat them with a clear sealer boss

    • @Equalizer7079
      @Equalizer7079 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rusty wedges are cool. Some people purposely try to rust their wedges. 😂

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  • @marcwinslow685
    @marcwinslow685 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    First time watching this video but I literally just did this before my last round of golf because I noticed my approach wedge and pitching wedge kept hitting the green and then rolled off. After sharpening the grooves, I stuck the ball on every full wedge I hit. I also don’t think they “sharpen” them as much as dig out all the crud in them and bring them back to what they were like when I got them new.

  • @hannestoerien7742
    @hannestoerien7742 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really cool. Very informative.

  • @miamimercenary
    @miamimercenary 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You only have to worry about illegal clubs if you use them for official play