Sounds like an excuse for people who still aren't good at something. Like an excuse not to practice. "It's okay, every body sucks at first. So I don't have to practice right?"
This is the most important thing when it comes to mastering something. Being bad or great at something are two sides of the same coin and cannot exist without the other.
Yeah, instead of just grading kids, they should let them retry where they fail until they get it right. Only give bad grades if the student fails to correct problem. Learning should also include learning to learn, not just turning it into an exercise in torture and punishment.
I grew up with a major problem of perfection. If I couldn't be "great out the gate", as I was raised to be... I just wouldn't try. I got tired of that mentality so I decided to learn something that I would never be good at. I picked up a guitar, with sole purpose to just enjoy being terrible at something. With a bit of unexpected irony; the very first complete song I'd ever learned, was Karma Police by Radiohead. Turned out I was not as bad as I'd feared. (but I still do suck at it)
You are Heavy Devy, you are already an icon in so many people’s eyes and ears don’t think we don’t know the sacrifices of time you have put in. You sir are an absolute national treasure.
You inspired me man. I can't sing, I can't play a single instrument. So I decided to write dozens of songs, hummed melodies in my head and then used AI to make the song that matched my melody. I know people look bad at AI music, but I am happy with the album I made with my own lyrics. Now I wish I could make a band and try my hand at singing my own lyrics.
well said from the legend himself! Im just barely starting to realize my guitar playing drastically improving by approaching learning stuff by ear and playing air guitar almost all day at work
One time I was at a meet and greet with Devin, and I asked him what the secret was to making a good recording. He looked at me and said "you have to make a bunch of shitty sounding records first. It's the only way to learn what works and what doesn't." He was right!
Not a musician but needed to hear this. Trying to understand what I thought was synthethesia but has turned into grand mal, so probably musicogenic epilepsy.
As an engineer every word he said is absolutely true. You have to screw it up 1000 times before you make 1 good one. The more you learn the more you come to terms with I don’t know shit. 😆.
Just heard it today... Sounds great to me. Everybody is a critic. It's true. Learning is always fun. It's probably the most fun thing on earth to do and computers are awesome at helping people when you read the right stuff.
That is probably the most single important lesson to learn in any facet of life especially your career. At one point I learned I can’t be scared to make a mistake if I really want something. I just have to do it and learn from and through the experience.
I just discovered theses dudes on TH-cam the video of them playing deadhead live is so fucking tediously beautiful. The rock but the soft tones in the background, this dude is fucking rad.
This video works for anything you want to do in life, I heard somewhere that if you wanna be good at something, you have to pay it by looking foolish. Surpassing that fear of looking dumb witll make you smart on the long term.
I just came from listening to Why? from Empath on repeat for an hour. I think it's safe to say that whatever this dude says about how to get good at something, we should listen.
I rented a Roland virtual studio in 2000 and recorded my band’s demo CD because we didn’t have money to do any serious studio recording. I had to learn how to use the VS, record and “master” 10 songs in a month. It ended up sounding really good, but I screwed up and was using a home stereo as a monitor, which eventually became the only stereo that damn album sounded good on. 😂
I'm an electrician, a da and a husband and even when I think I'm at the top of my game I always think I suck...It makes me strive for better so is that a bad thing? Suffering is what men do to get better. There is no top. Ain't just music. Thanks for the words Devin.
With music especially the intend weights much harder than the product. There's some absolutely shit stuff out there that is objectively bad when it comes to production and composition, but because the artist stands behind his work and frames it the right way it still works out great. The difference between me and Polloc is that I could never convince other people that work is great. Yet he did it, even though objectively it's just paint thrown at a canvas. My point being: don't let others determine what your art is. If you like that snare, if you like that doubling, if you want that fart noise in the outro: that is all that matters.
Ziltoid is still one of my most liked Al ums ever, despite so many telling me it''s shit, bad, raw, unfinished, imbalanced, badly mixed, or whatever. Enjoy what you do, enjoy what you create, enjoy what you consume, enjoy what you share! Why worry?
Oh man I know a dude who taught himself to play almost every main instrument in metal guitar, bass and drums which kinda made him a dick. Yea he plays those instruments really well but since he “taught” himself he will not have anyone how to teach him how to play certain instruments that would need someone to show him at least the way beginners on how to even use the instrument. Like a violin he bought and opened up after he got it though he was gonna be the devil at it and couldn’t even make the bow work and I told him just go look on the internet or go to the music store we have here that knows that stuff. But no he’s too proud we couldn’t even get him in our band because he would have to learn our music. Oh well keep on crushing Mr. Devin yous the sheeeit. 🤘😁🖤
I have told people interested in learning guitar, or that even expressed passing interest, "Yeah you gotta suck at it for a few years, then you start getting okay, and then you git gud" It's a turnoff for the easily discouraged, but an Everest to conquer for the truly willing. And yeah I still suck at guitar after 16 years as of time of writing 😼😹🎸
I solve that problem by making objectively shitty music. Oh, you think I screwed up there? I know I did. You didn't like the latest ADHD industrial noise I put out? Lol, neither do I, that's why I didn't save a copy. But you listened to it & it did something to you. I forgot about it and made eight more -- enjoy!
I wish I was a musician. But I had all skilled activities involved in it. But really.....I think the way we relate to music creation in our world is so warped..........to the point that something that should be a playful thing...is constantly subconsciously contrasted to an external standard. Specifically the great musicians. But music isns't theirs. Music is human.........and there are no rules to it.......or shouldn't be. But we tied music with money and fame.....it's no longer an authentic pursuit for its own sake.Somewhere out ther in a parallel timeline.....things are different though. And better AND easier.
100% - You never stop learning. You have to get over criticism and use it for your craft. Its the one job where you get sh*t on until its not so... Shi**y?
At the end of the day, you're either writing the song that you want to make, or you're writing a song for the masses. You have to make that choice for yourself.
I've released 23 bad albums. I think if I actually had an ounce of concentration I'd do better. I put more effort in in the old days. My music is not great but it's great for my personally healing.
Sucking at something is the first step to being good at it.
Yes! I learnt to be a terrible singer way before I learnt to be any good. I'm still not great but people like what I do now.
Sounds like an excuse for people who still aren't good at something. Like an excuse not to practice. "It's okay, every body sucks at first. So I don't have to practice right?"
@@preston2636 No it doesn't mean sit back and ignore improvements. It means learn what makes you bad before you worry about how to be good.
*unzips*
Keyword *first* step.
This is the most important thing when it comes to mastering something. Being bad or great at something are two sides of the same coin and cannot exist without the other.
I just wish I had him as any teacher in school with this mentality and humility.
Yeah, instead of just grading kids, they should let them retry where they fail until they get it right. Only give bad grades if the student fails to correct problem.
Learning should also include learning to learn, not just turning it into an exercise in torture and punishment.
I use two phrases about this thing:
“Every ladder has a bottom rung.”
&
“Anything worth doing is worth doing poorly…at first.”
Great message!
I'm gonna write those down, thank you😊
“Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.” -Samuel Beckett
This man is a genius,a teacher and a national treasure and one of the nicest human beings I have ever met
Ha
Dev you can probably play a kazoo underwater and make it sound incredible!
Devin could definitely get away with that 😂
On next tour.@@SyntheticFuture
@@tomb7890 I hope The Moth has a kazoo solo 😁
I grew up with a major problem of perfection. If I couldn't be "great out the gate", as I was raised to be... I just wouldn't try. I got tired of that mentality so I decided to learn something that I would never be good at. I picked up a guitar, with sole purpose to just enjoy being terrible at something.
With a bit of unexpected irony; the very first complete song I'd ever learned, was Karma Police by Radiohead. Turned out I was not as bad as I'd feared. (but I still do suck at it)
You are Heavy Devy, you are already an icon in so many people’s eyes and ears don’t think we don’t know the sacrifices of time you have put in. You sir are an absolute national treasure.
dude is the 🐐 and continues to improve his craft, which should inspire everyone
My grandfather used to say "if you're going to fail, fail gloriously."
It’s always great to hear this and it’s so easily forgotten.
What a guy. Humble to the core.
I was entertained
Devy is a monster perfectionist. We LOVE you.
To a fault, but yeah.
Very realistic view point. 🖤🖤🖤🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻love this kinda content
I needed to hear this, lost my vocalist in a car crash 10 years ago and I’ve been stuck ever since
This is SO important, great advice from Devin!
This is some of the best advice for anyone in the music industry. No matter what you do, just keep doing it!
Omg this is so true. This fear has kept me from committing to making music for years
I literally just had the “wow I actually suck” epiphany not too long ago and it was painful yet sobering.
You inspired me man. I can't sing, I can't play a single instrument. So I decided to write dozens of songs, hummed melodies in my head and then used AI to make the song that matched my melody. I know people look bad at AI music, but I am happy with the album I made with my own lyrics. Now I wish I could make a band and try my hand at singing my own lyrics.
God Bless Canada 🇨🇦
well said from the legend himself! Im just barely starting to realize my guitar playing drastically improving by approaching learning stuff by ear and playing air guitar almost all day at work
One time I was at a meet and greet with Devin, and I asked him what the secret was to making a good recording. He looked at me and said "you have to make a bunch of shitty sounding records first. It's the only way to learn what works and what doesn't." He was right!
Not a musician but needed to hear this. Trying to understand what I thought was synthethesia but has turned into grand mal, so probably musicogenic epilepsy.
Amen to that!
Needed this in this VERY MOMENT. Thank you for the reminder Dev.
Wise. I needed to hear this! Thank you.
As an engineer every word he said is absolutely true. You have to screw it up 1000 times before you make 1 good one. The more you learn the more you come to terms with I don’t know shit. 😆.
Seen syl 7 times in canada. Seen the Devin 5 times. Just do you Devy. Words of wisdom.
This is absolutely perfect.
You have to accept you won't be perfect from the start. It's that simple.
Exactly needed that exactly right now, thanks
That is great advice from a true artist, I’m a visual artist, the same principle, Devin describes, applies there as well.
Wow. Profound words brother Dev😊
Thank you Lord Devin
I appreciate the Just Fkn Do It video!
Much love bro 🍄
I love you, for your reflected thinking ...
Solid advice.
That's why his music is so good.
Great advice Devin! I have been producing myself for decades, and learning as I go. Tx
Protect this guy at all cost
Just heard it today... Sounds great to me. Everybody is a critic. It's true. Learning is always fun. It's probably the most fun thing on earth to do and computers are awesome at helping people when you read the right stuff.
That is probably the most single important lesson to learn in any facet of life especially your career. At one point I learned I can’t be scared to make a mistake if I really want something. I just have to do it and learn from and through the experience.
I just discovered theses dudes on TH-cam the video of them playing deadhead live is so fucking tediously beautiful. The rock but the soft tones in the background, this dude is fucking rad.
His GREATEST quality is his humility. I love you like a human being Devin, you are an inspiration.
"...that's just like stand-up comedy!"
- Joe Rogan
Wise Words
This is very well said
This video works for anything you want to do in life, I heard somewhere that if you wanna be good at something, you have to pay it by looking foolish.
Surpassing that fear of looking dumb witll make you smart on the long term.
Mistakes are simply the bricks on the Path to Mastery.
true wisdom is not having a single, remote interest in creating music but still taking so much away from this short
This is true for almost anything you could learn in life.
This next generation really needs to hear this message.
Right you are, sir
He's right, he does indeed suck.
Amen
Epic, it makes a lot of sense !!! Failing publicly lol, I'll keep trying hahah
The process of growth. First you were the sucker then you were the master.
Legend ! Love you bro
I just came from listening to Why? from Empath on repeat for an hour. I think it's safe to say that whatever this dude says about how to get good at something, we should listen.
You are the greatest Devvie
This is all true for everything. The moral of the story is to just do something until you're good at doing it.
Comming from the best musician in the world!
I've been playing the guitar damn near every day for 25 years. And I am still learning. It takes a lot of devotion.
Keep going! 🤘🎸🤘
I rented a Roland virtual studio in 2000 and recorded my band’s demo CD because we didn’t have money to do any serious studio recording. I had to learn how to use the VS, record and “master” 10 songs in a month. It ended up sounding really good, but I screwed up and was using a home stereo as a monitor, which eventually became the only stereo that damn album sounded good on. 😂
Great advice!
I'm an electrician, a da and a husband and even when I think I'm at the top of my game I always think I suck...It makes me strive for better so is that a bad thing? Suffering is what men do to get better. There is no top. Ain't just music. Thanks for the words Devin.
With music especially the intend weights much harder than the product. There's some absolutely shit stuff out there that is objectively bad when it comes to production and composition, but because the artist stands behind his work and frames it the right way it still works out great. The difference between me and Polloc is that I could never convince other people that work is great. Yet he did it, even though objectively it's just paint thrown at a canvas.
My point being: don't let others determine what your art is. If you like that snare, if you like that doubling, if you want that fart noise in the outro: that is all that matters.
Its exactly the same wit TH-cam, you've got to have the strength to fail
Ziltoid is still one of my most liked Al ums ever, despite so many telling me it''s shit, bad, raw, unfinished, imbalanced, badly mixed, or whatever.
Enjoy what you do, enjoy what you create, enjoy what you consume, enjoy what you share! Why worry?
I would love to have a conversation with Devon
Music and life philosophy ❤
Still can't figure out how to make my snare not sound like shit. Always sounds either super wimpy or just an indistinguishable mess.
anything you do is great regardless have confidence that people appreciate anything do and respect will come from every direction
Everyone who ever succeeded at anything all had one thing in common... they tried.
Hevy Devy is the man!
Oh man I know a dude who taught himself to play almost every main instrument in metal guitar, bass and drums which kinda made him a dick. Yea he plays those instruments really well but since he “taught” himself he will not have anyone how to teach him how to play certain instruments that would need someone to show him at least the way beginners on how to even use the instrument. Like a violin he bought and opened up after he got it though he was gonna be the devil at it and couldn’t even make the bow work and I told him just go look on the internet or go to the music store we have here that knows that stuff. But no he’s too proud we couldn’t even get him in our band because he would have to learn our music. Oh well keep on crushing Mr. Devin yous the sheeeit. 🤘😁🖤
I have told people interested in learning guitar, or that even expressed passing interest, "Yeah you gotta suck at it for a few years, then you start getting okay, and then you git gud"
It's a turnoff for the easily discouraged, but an Everest to conquer for the truly willing.
And yeah I still suck at guitar after 16 years as of time of writing 😼😹🎸
R.I.P. to Devins hair. He’s the one punch man of guitar playing.
he is so brilliant
The more I learn about Devin the more I admire him.
That’s the main thing keeping from learning to play the drums I love them but I know I’m gonna suck so bad
This is the first video i see after deciding im going to try my hand at making music, i shouldnt be worried about what other people think.
Your albums sound amazing, just please hire different sound techs for the road shows...
Devin has said in the past “Learning to fail efficiently is a huge part of success”
I solve that problem by making objectively shitty music. Oh, you think I screwed up there? I know I did. You didn't like the latest ADHD industrial noise I put out? Lol, neither do I, that's why I didn't save a copy. But you listened to it & it did something to you. I forgot about it and made eight more -- enjoy!
Thank you.
thanks for the advice
I wish I was a musician. But I had all skilled activities involved in it. But really.....I think the way we relate to music creation in our world is so warped..........to the point that something that should be a playful thing...is constantly subconsciously contrasted to an external standard. Specifically the great musicians. But music isns't theirs. Music is human.........and there are no rules to it.......or shouldn't be.
But we tied music with money and fame.....it's no longer an authentic pursuit for its own sake.Somewhere out ther in a parallel timeline.....things are different though. And better AND easier.
Don to put yourself down budi did it!!
100% - You never stop learning. You have to get over criticism and use it for your craft. Its the one job where you get sh*t on until its not so... Shi**y?
Once I realized that I sucked and couldn't keep up to the progression, I quit playing guitar years ago.
At the end of the day, you're either writing the song that you want to make, or you're writing a song for the masses. You have to make that choice for yourself.
I knew it. Devin parallel work is with the blue man group
❤
Everybody sucks until they don't.
😂 people could learn with your humbleness not only musically for life, but ok we in heaven/hell paradoxes don't lets the sh!t...
I've released 23 bad albums. I think if I actually had an ounce of concentration I'd do better. I put more effort in in the old days. My music is not great but it's great for my personally healing.
I love you brother
I have yet to find one of your creations that sucks!!!
I think his production before 2003-2005 ish was kind of hampering the end product
Heavy devy no is bad, maybe mad or bald, but bad? No way... 😄
this goes for any hobby or new job i feel like
i love it
Jainism is a cool song, BTW