@@Broken_AK47 ur right it basicly ALWAYS is.. ive never seen one in my life where u can just push the startbutton without holding AN brake lever, the other guy said the back brake lever wich is correct but u can use both of the levers separate from eachother (no derbi’s etc bcs of the clutch lever wich doesn’t have a switch in it) im from eu
@@istoneyy4204 yes and you're right that's SCOOTERS not mopped as it means motorised with pedals...no pedals here! And most of the 50cc are the same than 125cc just a few things change (engine carburetor shock absorber brakes)
@@loganleborgne420 lol ur not getting it.. you need to squeeze the brake lever to be able to use the starter doesn’t matter how far about half an cm is good enuf, if you don’t nothing will happen, don’t get me started on mopeds kid. We own multiple oldtimers 40+ yrs old (Solex, kaptein mobilette and so on) that wasn’t the point at all lmfao even on a 125 u need to hold the brakelever it still is a electricstarter + a button and a killswitch in the lever..🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ I know u can pedal the bike to start it but who/where was stated that it couldn’t..? I’m guessing you didn’t even read the comment I responded to as its not making any sense at all mate
Ike was spot on with buying these, essentially free content that turned into being quality attention grabbing content from beginning to end. Loving the content
You could very likely sell that pistol magazine for what you paid for the scooters. Everyone else calls those scooters. A moped tends to look more like a bicycle and has pedals like a bicycle. A moped would be manually pedaled in addition to applying throttle to accelerate up to speed or go up hills and then the engine keeps you cruising.
Mopeds have pedals but can start any way needed, and pedaling doesn't really benefit them unless they are incredibly underpowered. (Source: I have a few incl. a Tomos LX) It makes them technically bikes-with-engines, but a scooter is a moped, as far as a lot of laws are concerned. ("Something under 50cc with top speed of 35mph--most of the time")
A moped in most places defines a bike with a engine of 50cc and a max speed of 30mph. The law hasn't required pedals since the 70s in most places. And the common meaning of the word has changed, words can change over time.
True that actual mopeds had pedals but many state laws never changed to reflect the market shift from mopeds to scooters. In Virginia scooters with 50cc engines are referred to in state law as mopeds.
Ive been messing with cheap Chinese scooters for years and I can 100% tell you that blue CDI is garbage. They are sold as "performance" but all they do is leave you stranded. The best CDI you can get is from a Yamaha Zuma 50. In fact all the zuma parts are considerable upgrades over anything you will find on these. But honestly any stock CDI is better than those blue boxes. Also you can get more speed out of these by removing the little plastic bushing that hides behind the variator (CVT clutch). Just remove the belt cover and remove the bolt holding the variator on the engine. Only half will come off. then slip the belt off and you will find a little platic ring that prevents the CVT from fully opening, which restricts the speed by limiting its travel. You should get over 40mph after removing it. I love the content! been watching for over 6 years!
I got into Chinese scooters three years ago and I've built and sold a couple dozen in that time. The cheapest I've ever bought was $12.50(got two for $25). Most of them are sold as "blown up" or needing an engine, but 99% of the time the main problem is tight valves. And bad fuel lines. Also, the Jonway is a 50, Charles' looks like a 150+(considered a motorcycle not a scooter), and I'm not sure on Ike's, but it looks like it has more pep than a 50
Charles is for sure a gy6 150cc, and it’s the short case as well. The 150cc engines are top mount(typically) and the 50cc qmb139 is always bottom mount.
A scooter can have an engine capacity ranging from 50cc to 650cc, It is the fact that the engine & transmission are mounted as part of rear suspension arm, in a well frame, that classifies a bike as a scooter. If the engine is midframe mounted, with a Carden shaft or drive chain to the rear wheel, in a well frame, it is classified as a step through motorcycle (Honda Cub,, Super Cub, etc.). If the step through motorcycle has body panelling, covering it,, then it is classified as an enclosed motorcycle (Triumph Tina, CZ 175-501, etc.).
@@sv_cheats1970 $300-650. I put a lot of time into them, but parts are inexpensive. It usually works out to $300-400 for a part time work week, and I enjoy working on them. But it's not consistent work because sometimes it's difficult to find cheap scooters
So glad to see you working on mopeds. As an Italian mopeds mean so much to me, I had a Gilera with Piaggio engine with 70cc kit and other modifications. 120 km/h of pure fear. Good memories
Here in South Carolina we call those mopeds "licker sickles". Those are what the drunks ride when they have lost their drivers license because of DWI's. The curse of the highway as you run up on them so quickly. Also you get stuck behind them in opposing traffic. Often not maintained with no lights at night. Great for buzzing around a trailer park or crack house complex. Have fun guys! Cheers Terry
Technically it needs pedals to be a moped. Those are scooters and qualify as small motorcycles. That more or less goes state by state nation wide with variations.
@@thaio7800 ever herd of a cvt transmission all scooters have them it gives them a massive mechanical advantage for that little motor to be able to do highway speeds
@@Dirtbikeguy95 ever seen a moped derestriced with a tuning exhaust still wont reach anywhere near highway speeds unless u got some super 50cc thats extremely optimised with alot of tuning done u aint getting that fast
I owned a scooter just like Ike's back in high school. Had the same streamline shape, chrome, and wide sweeping handle bars. It had a 125cc engine. it was my first vehicle. Bought it used for $150 and rode it for three years. I put over 5000 miles on that scooter. I modified it for power and looks. Bigger carb jets and a sick under glow RGB body light kit. The top speed was 60 mph. I sold it when I bought a full size motorcycle. Kinda wish I kept it with gas reaching $7.00 a gallon in Socal. The scooter got 70 MPG. That's a whole lot of smiles per gallon.
I worked at a scooter shop for a bit in Florida. Same law "mopeds" ate 49cc with a top speed of 45 and dont require a motorcycle license. one of the mechanics i worked with had a 49cc 2 stroke with a 70cc big bore kit and racing weights. (We was a retired Ducati race bike tech). That thing would easily do 70-80mph
One thing for sure there's way more than sixty eight $ worth of parts there. the previous owners sure had those scooters cobbled together. Charles has an uphill battle with that birds nest of wiring. John has a siren on his thanks to Ike. (an idea) it would interesting to take the running gear from one of those scooters. and build a frame to fit the running gear in. and make a cool mini bike out of it. just an idea.
@CarsandCameras , here is a cool idea for the mopeds , convert them into stand up scooters, slim down the frame , remove the plastics , add a couple standing plates to the frame and use them to scoot around the tracks/shops .
A MODERN CLASSIC, I would like 2c a repeat but with a dedicated cameraperson so the build/ race is equal, these guys are extra funny when competing against each other
honda make no power and kids "respect" them. power thing make me laugh so hard. had a heavily modded v8 360 swapped 1999 dakota and i'm having 10 time mroe fun on my scooter. and they stopped power abuse because they said lowering a truck is illegal only cars can do it ? so yeah now they leave me alone sicne i sold the truck and bought the scooter.
I have the same scooter as Ike. The bars are stock. Looks pretty cool all together. My buddy gave it to me for free. I got it running with my son. We've had it going 65mph pretty quickly too.
been watching you guys for a while now and enjoying it very much keep up the good work, what you guys got a hold of in this episode are called scooters, a moped is a very specific vehicle, it has to have pedals has to be under 50cc, and I believe the tires have to be at least 17 in. the thing was the under 50cc and limited to 35 mph has to do with having a motorcycle license. :-)
Yes, various states have different maximum speed laws for these things... 17MPH is the slowest I've heard of, 30MPH is the quickest. Also, can confirm, at least in California, it has to have pedals to be legally considered a moped.
It varies a lot around the world too. Up here in Scandinavia, it's 49cc max and limited to 45kph (28mph) but you can get the license as a 16yo for very little money. The moped/scooter definition is hazy here, everything is called a moped in this class whether it looks like a scooter or a superbike, manual/cvt etc etc.
@@zBrainlezz And the exact definition of "moped" matters legally, and that matters to our ability to enjoy the greater freedoms afforded to moped riders as opposed to the generally more restrictive laws governing scooters and motorcycles.
So crazy! Ohio moped laws require they have pedals and be registered, with plates etc. Seems like other states may be a little more lax on this. These type of scooters actually require a motorcycle license and the whole title thing that no one can ever seem to hold onto. So jealous 😫 awesome video!
Moped laws in California are similar. Source: used to live in NorCal. Main legal difference between mopeds and full-on motorcycles, in that regard, is that mopeds in California have a lifetime registration, so no need for renewal or a new registration sticker every year.
Mopeds are so much fun and easy to go fast, I have to check my sons scooter all the time last time he started rolling down the hill not starting it did 55 with me on it a Beluga whale. They tune them all the time and the cops stops them all the time fun times.
That chrome thing wide handlebar thing. Is called a havanna and are dime a dozen mopeds here in the Netherlands. They rust terrible even though most of it is plastic even the chrome. Engines underpowered and smokie. They turn like a drunken land yacht. Make sure you remove the restrictor plug from the neck of the exhaust manifold.
You guys need to road trip them like Top Gear. See how far you can go. From the C&C base all the way to Issac's. Who gets the best mileage, the most looks, the fastest drag race etc. Which $3 scooter is best?
I had a whole lot of fun watching you all get the scoots going again! I used to work on Chinese scooters all the time, and it was funny watching you discover the "typical" things - household wire nuts, metal pez dispensers, construction screws in the airbox, etc. It was even more fun seeing the successful repairs and hearing the friendly shop talk! I wonder if you'd like to continue the fun - I'm in central NC and I have an inertia chassis dynamometer. Wanna bring the scoots out for a dyno day?
I absolutely love this. Its about time yall joined the Mopboyz! Hint, if you kick it backwards and it has a big fan cover its a 150. Forward kick its a 50
Moped & 50cc speed restrictions globally: 22 MPH = Holland 25 MPH = Some US states 30 MPH = UK, EU & some US states The 30 MPH 50cc speed restriction was caused by the Puch versus Kreidler "Moped Speed War" of the 1970''s These Austrian 50cc motorcycle manufacturers competed against each other to produce the world's fastest 16er 50cc moped, creating bikes with top speeds that today's 50cc scooter riding kids can only BS about achieving. Puch came out with the 72 MPH Grand Prix. Kreidler came out with the 80 MPH Florette. Numerous governments looked on in horror, then passed killjoy legislation to restrict 16er mopeds to 30 MPH.
Very interesting, I didn't know this before. I have a Kreidler 50cc from 1979... Unfortunately it's been sitting around for a while due to a horrendous rod knock, and the necessary replacement parts are extremely expensive, so I'm not sure if I'll ever be able to ride it again. :( Oh, and also, I believe a few US states have 20MPH speed laws for those things, and at one time a few even had 17MPH restrictions (not sure if those are still so stringent).
The scooter brigade would be so proud of y'all. I love it! When Charles said whiskey throttle I thought I was only one that known about whiskey throttle, love it!
I'd like to see you guys bring one of the og builds back to life and make progress on making it better. Don't mind the switch ups every now and then but seeing progress would be pretty cool
Great stuff man. Quick tip pull the belt covers and pull the restrictor washer. It's a 15 min. Job and gets u minimum 5mph. Clutches is where the power lives in scoots. Great buy fellas love it!!
So little tip, if you separate the driver pulley half’s in the torque converter there’s a washer that restricts the speed of the bike, remove it and you’ll have a bit more speed and power, I had a 50cc version of these and I was able to get it to 65-70 mph off of cheap Chinese performance parts
Finally got to the end after many cat interruptions, damn, Isaac's seat setup had me laughing so hard I almost threw up, that's just pure awesome work there!!! :P
No limits in the three states we've lived. In fact, when I was a kid 900 years ago in NM, the limit was under 100cc and could not travel on the highways under 55mph Oh, and this was for ages 13yrs and up no license required
I mess with these a lot, if you don't care about electric start or lights, you can cut out 90% of the wiring. On most, you can actually cut the harness in half, tape of the ends and the only wire you need to hook up is the black/white strip kill wire. Then you kick to start, kill switch to stop.
You can have a 150cc motor scooter/moped in NC, it is just considered a motorcycle. So title, registration, insurance requirements are that of a motorcycle.
This reminds me of back in my youth when we used to race puch mopeds. We found that the yx 80 cylinder would mount up with slight modes to the case. 65 mph was a blast on those
Just bought a 50cc scooter and it's titled and tagged as a motorized bicycle. But plan on a big bore kit, "hot cam", high performance ignition and high performance exhaust. Gotta love these Chinese specials. I got a Hella of a deal on my brand new Teyin scooter
I love that IKEs age compared to John and chucks shows by the vehicles that he drives 😂 but I also love these 3 all being in the videos because they are truly just having fun and getting paid to do it (regardless of how much money they make)
Those blue "racing" cdi boxes have been proven to increase power by a smeg but you want really get any benefits from it without a big bore kit and a cam and a free flowing exhaust with a jet kit ....I like the A9 cam.......and those factory fuel pumps are unnecessary just bypass it and let it gravity feed
In TN the moped law is no larger than 49cc in displacement, single gear centrifugal drivetrain, no speed limitation but they don't tend to go over 30 stock unless you are a featherweight anyways.
This video reminds me of the video that made me follow your channel. If I remember correctly, you guys had bought about a dozen old mini bikes and each had to get your chosen bike running. It's been a fun ride , keep at it.
In Australia there's a minimum fee on some auctions of $300. Salvage auctions are generally $30 or so but yeah. I was looking at a trash car once that I wanted to pay about $250 for and it had a $300 fee. So I needed to get the car for -$50
50cc's have a kick starter that faces towards the back...150cc's have a kick starter that faces towards the front of the bike. Charles's bike looks like a 150cc. Issac's might be, or the kick lever might be installed wrong, it's hard to tell. John's is just about exactly what I'd expect a stock 50cc to do. slow off the line, will eventually do 30-35 on flat ground.
I got 3 like the one Charles picked for free from a dealer that went under. Cn250 running gear with cfmoto internal parts. Definitely not limited to 35mph. Considered a motorcycle here in Indiana.
All new machines (cdi) clean the carbs, replace the spark plugs and outlet the drive side cover to remove restrictors(like a comet with an extra washer to restrict belt travel)
This is one of my favorite vids so far. Ikes belching sounded like he was on the verge of throwing up....hilarious! Felt bad for Charles though, but he gave it a good effort. Ordered me some merch. Keep it up, fellas! It'll be fine.....
And this goes back to a quote spoken on a video months/years ago where people (like me) never are able to find deals this good where we live, yet others are lucky as hell.
Over this side of the pond, the moped class is 49cc and can be ridden by 16 year olds, however you can get automatic motorbikes in any size so 110/125/.../600, just changes the age you can ride it
On cheap Chinese import mopeds like these, you won't find people modifying them. What you will find is pretty much all the engine mounts are identical. So a 50cc to a 125cc swap is very easy! Here in the UK they're literally scrap, but the more sort after Piaggio stuff Gilera stuff go for good money some with 200/300cc engine swaps on a 125cc frame. My brother has a fully built 172cc Typhoon that's modified from a 125cc.
Thankfully that max 50cc garbage isn't nation wide. Here in NY there's no Max displacement on Mopeds, Scooters or whatever you want to call them. In NY the term Moped and Scooter are used interchangeably regardless if it has pedals or not. From the look of the CVT cover the one Charles has is a 150 👍👍 @4:04 That's not necessarily true they could have came from out of state as Tennessee, South Carolina and Georgia allow for over 50cc.
In lots of other states there is no "moped" law or registration. They are just whatever size they are and you register them like a motorcycle, scooter, or car. A couple of those are 150s
To the best of my knowledge, in missouri, there isn't a speed limit, however anything 49 cc and under, doesn't require registration (license plates) to be operated on the streets
In Virginia 50cc is a moped, by legality, but a moped actually comes as high as 350cc in the Gy6 format. Key part of a moped is the simplicity of just twist and go. But anything above 50 at the time of registration is considered a motorcycle.
MoPed. MOtorbike with PEDals. If it don't have both, it ain't one. No other description necessary. This pile of scooters looks like a ton of fun. Nice score for that price.
Here in the UK you're limited on your licence by hp. 16 year olds can ride 50cc 17 year olds can ride 125cc. But I think both are 12hp limited and have to have a CBT which is a basic training day to make sure you're a safe and educated rider. Then you need a 2 part motorcycle licence for anything bigger. CBT riders have to ride with 'L' plates too and can't use 'M' roads
@@lethargicstove2024 yeah it's pretty backwards... In Holland they can ride from 14 I think.. and on the path/cycle lanes. But we're not really limited to speed here like most of the European countries on their 50cc's everyone gets away with derestricting and you're supposed to declare any mods to insurance but no one does 😆
Every state has different laws regarding mopeds. Usually, no registration or license is required if you're less than 50 or 40 cc (Texas). You must have the option to pedal power your unit for it to qualify as a "moped". If you're over the limits, then you need either a car or motorcycle registration and applicable driver's license.
in the UK 49cc and under are classed as mopeds and can be rode from 16 yrs of age, over 50cc are classed as scooters and from 17 yrs of age you're able to ride any scooter/motorcycle upto 125cc on a provisional licence after taking a compulsory basic training course
Always lots of fun watching you guys make junkie stuff run again,lol. Great content and good times.. Keep it up guys... Lots of luv from BARRIE ONTARIO CANADA 🇨🇦 ❤️
Tech tip: Most of these scooters, you need to hold the back brake lever in while pushing the "start" button in order for the starter to kick in.
actually 99.999999 % os scotoer are like that. even zuma. so i dont get the "most of THESE scooters". THESE ???
@@Broken_AK47 ur right it basicly ALWAYS is.. ive never seen one in my life where u can just push the startbutton without holding AN brake lever, the other guy said the back brake lever wich is correct but u can use both of the levers separate from eachother (no derbi’s etc bcs of the clutch lever wich doesn’t have a switch in it) im from eu
@@istoneyy4204 yes and you're right that's SCOOTERS not mopped as it means motorised with pedals...no pedals here! And most of the 50cc are the same than 125cc just a few things change (engine carburetor shock absorber brakes)
@@loganleborgne420 lol ur not getting it.. you need to squeeze the brake lever to be able to use the starter doesn’t matter how far about half an cm is good enuf, if you don’t nothing will happen, don’t get me started on mopeds kid. We own multiple oldtimers 40+ yrs old (Solex, kaptein mobilette and so on) that wasn’t the point at all lmfao even on a 125 u need to hold the brakelever it still is a electricstarter + a button and a killswitch in the lever..🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ I know u can pedal the bike to start it but who/where was stated that it couldn’t..? I’m guessing you didn’t even read the comment I responded to as its not making any sense at all mate
Same with the kick starter most you gotta hold the break in
Ike was spot on with buying these, essentially free content that turned into being quality attention grabbing content from beginning to end. Loving the content
You could very likely sell that pistol magazine for what you paid for the scooters.
Everyone else calls those scooters. A moped tends to look more like a bicycle and has pedals like a bicycle. A moped would be manually pedaled in addition to applying throttle to accelerate up to speed or go up hills and then the engine keeps you cruising.
Pedals are mostly a legal requirement. Those things are plenty powerful enough to drive unassisted.
They might get all what they paid for just selling that lol
Mopeds have pedals but can start any way needed, and pedaling doesn't really benefit them unless they are incredibly underpowered. (Source: I have a few incl. a Tomos LX)
It makes them technically bikes-with-engines, but a scooter is a moped, as far as a lot of laws are concerned. ("Something under 50cc with top speed of 35mph--most of the time")
A moped in most places defines a bike with a engine of 50cc and a max speed of 30mph. The law hasn't required pedals since the 70s in most places. And the common meaning of the word has changed, words can change over time.
True that actual mopeds had pedals but many state laws never changed to reflect the market shift from mopeds to scooters. In Virginia scooters with 50cc engines are referred to in state law as mopeds.
Ive been messing with cheap Chinese scooters for years and I can 100% tell you that blue CDI is garbage. They are sold as "performance" but all they do is leave you stranded. The best CDI you can get is from a Yamaha Zuma 50. In fact all the zuma parts are considerable upgrades over anything you will find on these. But honestly any stock CDI is better than those blue boxes. Also you can get more speed out of these by removing the little plastic bushing that hides behind the variator (CVT clutch). Just remove the belt cover and remove the bolt holding the variator on the engine. Only half will come off. then slip the belt off and you will find a little platic ring that prevents the CVT from fully opening, which restricts the speed by limiting its travel. You should get over 40mph after removing it. I love the content! been watching for over 6 years!
You guys are killin it with the content lately! LOVE the absurdity, randomness, friendship and of course....great builds!
Great find ike dang it I wish I was there
I got into Chinese scooters three years ago and I've built and sold a couple dozen in that time. The cheapest I've ever bought was $12.50(got two for $25). Most of them are sold as "blown up" or needing an engine, but 99% of the time the main problem is tight valves. And bad fuel lines.
Also, the Jonway is a 50, Charles' looks like a 150+(considered a motorcycle not a scooter), and I'm not sure on Ike's, but it looks like it has more pep than a 50
Charles is for sure a gy6 150cc, and it’s the short case as well. The 150cc engines are top mount(typically) and the 50cc qmb139 is always bottom mount.
Charles and Ike are 150 for sure. John has a 50
A scooter can have an engine capacity ranging from 50cc to 650cc, It is the fact that the engine & transmission are mounted as part of rear suspension arm, in a well frame, that classifies a bike as a scooter.
If the engine is midframe mounted, with a Carden shaft or drive chain to the rear wheel, in a well frame, it is classified as a step through motorcycle (Honda Cub,, Super Cub, etc.). If the step through motorcycle has body panelling, covering it,, then it is classified as an enclosed motorcycle (Triumph Tina, CZ 175-501, etc.).
For how much do you flip them
@@sv_cheats1970 $300-650. I put a lot of time into them, but parts are inexpensive. It usually works out to $300-400 for a part time work week, and I enjoy working on them. But it's not consistent work because sometimes it's difficult to find cheap scooters
So glad to see you working on mopeds. As an Italian mopeds mean so much to me, I had a Gilera with Piaggio engine with 70cc kit and other modifications. 120 km/h of pure fear. Good memories
i think Isaac deserves a big round of applause for the purchase of these off the Auction site. Great buy Isaac
Here in South Carolina we call those mopeds "licker sickles". Those are what the drunks ride when they have lost their drivers license because of DWI's. The curse of the highway as you run up on them so quickly. Also you get stuck behind them in opposing traffic. Often not maintained with no lights at night. Great for buzzing around a trailer park or crack house complex.
Have fun guys!
Cheers
Terry
Technically it needs pedals to be a moped. Those are scooters and qualify as small motorcycles. That more or less goes state by state nation wide with variations.
Yup they are scooters and can do hiway speeds not even close to mopeds people
@@nathanberry0073 50cc doing highway speeds? you dreamin
thats the old definition though, in this day and era mopeds are usually just 50cc bikes with restrictions
@@thaio7800 ever herd of a cvt transmission all scooters have them it gives them a massive mechanical advantage for that little motor to be able to do highway speeds
@@Dirtbikeguy95 ever seen a moped derestriced with a tuning exhaust still wont reach anywhere near highway speeds unless u got some super 50cc thats extremely optimised with alot of tuning done u aint getting that fast
I owned a scooter just like Ike's back in high school. Had the same streamline shape, chrome, and wide sweeping handle bars. It had a 125cc engine. it was my first vehicle. Bought it used for $150 and rode it for three years. I put over 5000 miles on that scooter. I modified it for power and looks. Bigger carb jets and a sick under glow RGB body light kit. The top speed was 60 mph. I sold it when I bought a full size motorcycle. Kinda wish I kept it with gas reaching $7.00 a gallon in Socal. The scooter got 70 MPG. That's a whole lot of smiles per gallon.
What was the name of the motorcycle?
I worked at a scooter shop for a bit in Florida. Same law "mopeds" ate 49cc with a top speed of 45 and dont require a motorcycle license. one of the mechanics i worked with had a 49cc 2 stroke with a 70cc big bore kit and racing weights. (We was a retired Ducati race bike tech). That thing would easily do 70-80mph
Not the first time Charles has made me bust out laughing. The CPR thing was funny,but, the lil cheek slap at the end was priceless.
One thing for sure there's way more than sixty eight $ worth of parts there. the previous owners sure had those scooters cobbled together. Charles has an uphill battle with that birds nest of wiring. John has a siren on his thanks to Ike.
(an idea) it would interesting to take the running gear from one of those scooters. and build a frame to fit the running gear in. and make a cool mini bike out of it. just an idea.
@CarsandCameras , here is a cool idea for the mopeds , convert them into stand up scooters, slim down the frame , remove the plastics , add a couple standing plates to the frame and use them to scoot around the tracks/shops .
Riser bars and ape hangers
A MODERN CLASSIC, I would like 2c a repeat but with a dedicated cameraperson so the build/ race is equal, these guys are extra funny when competing against each other
You guys need to respect the insane power in those machines! 😁
😂 Millennium Falcon warp action in the making
honda make no power and kids "respect" them.
power thing make me laugh so hard.
had a heavily modded v8 360 swapped 1999 dakota and i'm having 10 time mroe fun on my scooter.
and they stopped power abuse because they said lowering a truck is illegal only cars can do it ? so yeah now they leave me alone sicne i sold the truck and bought the scooter.
John could sell anything to anyone. He's that good! Great purchase, great content, great fit race Charles..
Like the American delboy trotter if you know who that is ?
Im really loving this scooter content i really hate how ppl give them crap they are to much fun
This is my all time favorite channel, been watching y'all since 2016, love the content
This episode was so much fun😂 just wait until you see the race Monday
6th?I think
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I love this vid
This was awesome $18 and those 3 run what a buy. Can't wait for the other content with them 👏👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
Little scooter tip.if it has a top engine mount it's a 150 gy6.if it mounts from the bottom you have a 50cc gy6
Best episode ever guys! When Charles slapped the hind end of Ike's moped, I nearly fell out of my chair.
Charles has a 150 cc you can tell by the size of the cvt cover
I have the same scooter as Ike. The bars are stock. Looks pretty cool all together. My buddy gave it to me for free. I got it running with my son. We've had it going 65mph pretty quickly too.
Loving the variety of content you guys are putting out.
been watching you guys for a while now and enjoying it very much keep up the good work, what you guys got a hold of in this episode are called scooters, a moped is a very specific vehicle, it has to have pedals has to be under 50cc, and I believe the tires have to be at least 17 in. the thing was the under 50cc and limited to 35 mph has to do with having a motorcycle license. :-)
Mopeds can have 14 or 16in tires, but otherwise yes. Speed is also dependent on the state you’re in. Ohio can’t be above 20mph.
Yes, various states have different maximum speed laws for these things... 17MPH is the slowest I've heard of, 30MPH is the quickest. Also, can confirm, at least in California, it has to have pedals to be legally considered a moped.
It varies a lot around the world too. Up here in Scandinavia, it's 49cc max and limited to 45kph (28mph) but you can get the license as a 16yo for very little money. The moped/scooter definition is hazy here, everything is called a moped in this class whether it looks like a scooter or a superbike, manual/cvt etc etc.
@sali gandu Probably (I mean they can arrest you for wearing a yellow shirt) but due to reciprocity laws it should be beatable in court.
@@zBrainlezz And the exact definition of "moped" matters legally, and that matters to our ability to enjoy the greater freedoms afforded to moped riders as opposed to the generally more restrictive laws governing scooters and motorcycles.
Love you getting back to getting old pieces of trash running again and then comparing your garbage to the rest. Looking forward to the next episode.
So crazy! Ohio moped laws require they have pedals and be registered, with plates etc. Seems like other states may be a little more lax on this. These type of scooters actually require a motorcycle license and the whole title thing that no one can ever seem to hold onto. So jealous 😫 awesome video!
Yes Mopeds have petals and don’t need a motorcycle license. Scooters no petals
Moped laws in California are similar. Source: used to live in NorCal. Main legal difference between mopeds and full-on motorcycles, in that regard, is that mopeds in California have a lifetime registration, so no need for renewal or a new registration sticker every year.
@@zBrainlezz that's pretty awesome! Are the plates expensive because of the lifetime thing?
Mopeds are so much fun and easy to go fast, I have to check my sons scooter all the time last time he started rolling down the hill not starting it did 55 with me on it a Beluga whale. They tune them all the time and the cops stops them all the time fun times.
That chrome thing wide handlebar thing. Is called a havanna and are dime a dozen mopeds here in the Netherlands. They rust terrible even though most of it is plastic even the chrome. Engines underpowered and smokie. They turn like a drunken land yacht. Make sure you remove the restrictor plug from the neck of the exhaust manifold.
Wish I was there to help you guys. Ruckus and Grom type builds are my specialty. So much fun! Enjoy, gentlemen, and keep the awesome videos coming.
John, yours is a peeling, clapped out Hyundai Tiburon with a rattle can body kit, not a Camaro 😂. Thanks for the laughs, guys!
What a good explanation of his scooter lol
some great Top Gear Challenges started off with insanely cheap vehicles and a destination, with tests along the way
You guys need to road trip them like Top Gear. See how far you can go. From the C&C base all the way to Issac's. Who gets the best mileage, the most looks, the fastest drag race etc. Which $3 scooter is best?
I had a whole lot of fun watching you all get the scoots going again! I used to work on Chinese scooters all the time, and it was funny watching you discover the "typical" things - household wire nuts, metal pez dispensers, construction screws in the airbox, etc. It was even more fun seeing the successful repairs and hearing the friendly shop talk!
I wonder if you'd like to continue the fun - I'm in central NC and I have an inertia chassis dynamometer. Wanna bring the scoots out for a dyno day?
I absolutely love this. Its about time yall joined the Mopboyz! Hint, if you kick it backwards and it has a big fan cover its a 150. Forward kick its a 50
Moped & 50cc speed restrictions globally:
22 MPH = Holland
25 MPH = Some US states
30 MPH = UK, EU & some US states
The 30 MPH 50cc speed restriction was caused by the Puch versus Kreidler "Moped Speed War" of the 1970''s These Austrian 50cc motorcycle manufacturers competed against each other to produce the world's fastest 16er 50cc moped, creating bikes with top speeds that today's 50cc scooter riding kids can only BS about achieving.
Puch came out with the 72 MPH Grand Prix. Kreidler came out with the 80 MPH Florette. Numerous governments looked on in horror, then passed killjoy legislation to restrict 16er mopeds to 30 MPH.
Very interesting, I didn't know this before. I have a Kreidler 50cc from 1979... Unfortunately it's been sitting around for a while due to a horrendous rod knock, and the necessary replacement parts are extremely expensive, so I'm not sure if I'll ever be able to ride it again. :(
Oh, and also, I believe a few US states have 20MPH speed laws for those things, and at one time a few even had 17MPH restrictions (not sure if those are still so stringent).
Ok, from Ike spreading the Michigan bankroll to Charles foot race with Jon, far too funny! Chuckled all the way thru...
Thanx for all the Grins !!
Long time fan and subscriber. This may be my favorite video you guys have done. Awesome idea! Well executed!
The scooter brigade would be so proud of y'all. I love it! When Charles said whiskey throttle I thought I was only one that known about whiskey throttle, love it!
Y'all need to make a old school ramp and jump one of them things in that pond
I'd like to see you guys bring one of the og builds back to life and make progress on making it better. Don't mind the switch ups every now and then but seeing progress would be pretty cool
Great stuff man. Quick tip pull the belt covers and pull the restrictor washer. It's a 15 min. Job and gets u minimum 5mph. Clutches is where the power lives in scoots. Great buy fellas love it!!
This is the best value entertainment ever. I absolutely love the scooter content.
So little tip, if you separate the driver pulley half’s in the torque converter there’s a washer that restricts the speed of the bike, remove it and you’ll have a bit more speed and power, I had a 50cc version of these and I was able to get it to 65-70 mph off of cheap Chinese performance parts
Finally got to the end after many cat interruptions, damn, Isaac's seat setup had me laughing so hard I almost threw up, that's just pure awesome work there!!! :P
those little blue CDI boxes dont do much for performance but they are at least as good as the oem garbage
love your videos i love seeing all the stuff yall get keep up the good work
I love watching folks who know what they're doing turn trash into treasure. Y'all are a amazing!
Love the vids keep up the awesome work could yall make an in depth video of wiring on one?
No limits in the three states we've lived. In fact, when I was a kid 900 years ago in NM, the limit was under 100cc and could not travel on the highways under 55mph
Oh, and this was for ages 13yrs and up no license required
Motor + Pedals = Moped. These are scooters.
I mess with these a lot, if you don't care about electric start or lights, you can cut out 90% of the wiring. On most, you can actually cut the harness in half, tape of the ends and the only wire you need to hook up is the black/white strip kill wire. Then you kick to start, kill switch to stop.
They are gonna be riding around the apocalypse on these poverty ponys
You can have a 150cc motor scooter/moped in NC, it is just considered a motorcycle. So title, registration, insurance requirements are that of a motorcycle.
This reminds me of back in my youth when we used to race puch mopeds. We found that the yx 80 cylinder would mount up with slight modes to the case. 65 mph was a blast on those
Jesus Christ
Perfect speed for John!
Just bought a 50cc scooter and it's titled and tagged as a motorized bicycle. But plan on a big bore kit, "hot cam", high performance ignition and high performance exhaust. Gotta love these Chinese specials. I got a Hella of a deal on my brand new Teyin scooter
I love that IKEs age compared to John and chucks shows by the vehicles that he drives 😂 but I also love these 3 all being in the videos because they are truly just having fun and getting paid to do it (regardless of how much money they make)
I wanna say thank you guys for signing one of my stickers. I didn't ask for it and you guys did. That really made my day. Thank you guys so much!
Those blue "racing" cdi boxes have been proven to increase power by a smeg but you want really get any benefits from it without a big bore kit and a cam and a free flowing exhaust with a jet kit ....I like the A9 cam.......and those factory fuel pumps are unnecessary just bypass it and let it gravity feed
In TN the moped law is no larger than 49cc in displacement, single gear centrifugal drivetrain, no speed limitation but they don't tend to go over 30 stock unless you are a featherweight anyways.
I can’t wait until you boys get into the Honda grom game….
This video reminds me of the video that made me follow your channel.
If I remember correctly, you guys had bought about a dozen old mini bikes and each had to get your chosen bike running.
It's been a fun ride , keep at it.
In Australia there's a minimum fee on some auctions of $300.
Salvage auctions are generally $30 or so but yeah. I was looking at a trash car once that I wanted to pay about $250 for and it had a $300 fee. So I needed to get the car for -$50
This is the kind of thing i like doing! Get guys together to build and race junk! 😀
Charles energy is amazing🤣
Well done guys! Looking forward to you guys racing those scooters! It'll be grrrreat!
Guys, this was just the video I needed today. great content. Keep it up!!!!!!
Unfortunately he was found dead
I don't know anything about grom wheels but increase your size get alot more front wheel time and stability. My banshee did 117, stock internals.
50cc's have a kick starter that faces towards the back...150cc's have a kick starter that faces towards the front of the bike. Charles's bike looks like a 150cc. Issac's might be, or the kick lever might be installed wrong, it's hard to tell. John's is just about exactly what I'd expect a stock 50cc to do. slow off the line, will eventually do 30-35 on flat ground.
Ikes is a 150 you can tell by the size of the carb
I got 3 like the one Charles picked for free from a dealer that went under. Cn250 running gear with cfmoto internal parts. Definitely not limited to 35mph. Considered a motorcycle here in Indiana.
All new machines (cdi) clean the carbs, replace the spark plugs and outlet the drive side cover to remove restrictors(like a comet with an extra washer to restrict belt travel)
This is one of my favorite vids so far. Ikes belching sounded like he was on the verge of throwing up....hilarious! Felt bad for Charles though, but he gave it a good effort. Ordered me some merch. Keep it up, fellas! It'll be fine.....
Nice hall ! You can’t go wrong for that price! Great video 🤩 can’t wait for the race👍🏼💪🏼
wait a minute... you guys have a pond, too!??! That opens up a whole new realm of builds!
And this goes back to a quote spoken on a video months/years ago where people (like me) never are able to find deals this good where we live, yet others are lucky as hell.
Over this side of the pond, the moped class is 49cc and can be ridden by 16 year olds, however you can get automatic motorbikes in any size so 110/125/.../600, just changes the age you can ride it
Freedom pez! Love the moped content!
Ike in the back in the upside ad was perfect, you guys couldn't have done better on that ad 😂😂😂😂
Charles is a great addition to this channel.
On cheap Chinese import mopeds like these, you won't find people modifying them. What you will find is pretty much all the engine mounts are identical. So a 50cc to a 125cc swap is very easy! Here in the UK they're literally scrap, but the more sort after Piaggio stuff Gilera stuff go for good money some with 200/300cc engine swaps on a 125cc frame. My brother has a fully built 172cc Typhoon that's modified from a 125cc.
Ikes face when Charles is cranking his😂😂
Thankfully that max 50cc garbage isn't nation wide. Here in NY there's no Max displacement on Mopeds, Scooters or whatever you want to call them. In NY the term Moped and Scooter are used interchangeably regardless if it has pedals or not.
From the look of the CVT cover the one Charles has is a 150 👍👍
@4:04 That's not necessarily true they could have came from out of state as Tennessee, South Carolina and Georgia allow for over 50cc.
In lots of other states there is no "moped" law or registration. They are just whatever size they are and you register them like a motorcycle, scooter, or car. A couple of those are 150s
Other people’s trash is really another ones treasure
7:00 John's nervous laugh is classic - gonna make that my ringtone
Charles: Standing dust donuts on a scooter more apart than together
Also Charles: Please be safe 🥺
To the best of my knowledge, in missouri, there isn't a speed limit, however anything 49 cc and under, doesn't require registration (license plates) to be operated on the streets
Most scooters you have to hold brake to start engine .....
1:44 "I can't see the dash on it"
**smash**
made my day how sudden that was lol
U guys can get anything running, love the videos so much I just click when I see your video uploaded 😊💯🔧
In Virginia 50cc is a moped, by legality, but a moped actually comes as high as 350cc in the Gy6 format. Key part of a moped is the simplicity of just twist and go. But anything above 50 at the time of registration is considered a motorcycle.
MoPed. MOtorbike with PEDals. If it don't have both, it ain't one. No other description necessary.
This pile of scooters looks like a ton of fun. Nice score for that price.
Here in the UK you're limited on your licence by hp. 16 year olds can ride 50cc 17 year olds can ride 125cc. But I think both are 12hp limited and have to have a CBT which is a basic training day to make sure you're a safe and educated rider.
Then you need a 2 part motorcycle licence for anything bigger. CBT riders have to ride with 'L' plates too and can't use 'M' roads
Lol In America I’m 15 driving mine around but nobody cares I have a friend whose 16 and looking at soft tail Harleys
@@lethargicstove2024 yeah it's pretty backwards... In Holland they can ride from 14 I think.. and on the path/cycle lanes. But we're not really limited to speed here like most of the European countries on their 50cc's everyone gets away with derestricting and you're supposed to declare any mods to insurance but no one does 😆
Every state has different laws regarding mopeds. Usually, no registration or license is required if you're less than 50 or 40 cc (Texas). You must have the option to pedal power your unit for it to qualify as a "moped". If you're over the limits, then you need either a car or motorcycle registration and applicable driver's license.
I LOVE the one Ike is sitting on at the start of the video! Adore that teardrop shaped rear end.
For 68 bucks you couldn't have more fun.
in the UK 49cc and under are classed as mopeds and can be rode from 16 yrs of age, over 50cc are classed as scooters and from 17 yrs of age you're able to ride any scooter/motorcycle upto 125cc on a provisional licence after taking a compulsory basic training course
I had a smile ear to ear on this video Thank you so much. I think this should be a yearly challenge for the channel.
Always lots of fun watching you guys make junkie stuff run again,lol.
Great content and good times..
Keep it up guys...
Lots of luv from BARRIE ONTARIO CANADA 🇨🇦 ❤️