One thing I forgot to mention in the video is the ship auction has had a major overhaul. Not only can you see ships for sale in other ports, but the auction UI has been updated and is now much more user-friendly in my opinion. And thanks everyone for the comments. I'll do my best to read and respond to as many as I can o7
I feel like stern rakes should be absolutely devastating for the crew and not so much the structure. As it is now it feels weird that you get a good stern rake in and the ship just sinks.
that used to be the case a couple years ago and it was great. They keep making these huge "other end of the spectrum" changes to dmg and tank as if they were beta phases and obviously pissing off everyone in the process.
It should be both. The whole point of raking the stern is your shots travel the length of the ship maximising the amount of damage it does to the hull and also damage to the crew via being hit with a cannon ball or via splintering from hull damage. I definitely think however it should be more focused on crew damage rather than hull damage.
The kill missions are gone because lower level ones (5th rate in particular) would be unbalanced with thr new gun damage. While it's not a big issue for good players, getting a kill mission that has a noob in a Cerberus face off against a Trincomolee would be... rough to say the least. At least that's what the devs said on the steam forums.
Thanks for the info. It's nice to know we have some explanation at least. Though I still hope the missions will be brought back at some point, perhaps with some rebalancing for the new gun damage.
I may check this game out now that they've implemented safe zones. After years of playing Rust and remembering my experiences with PVP in Warcraft, I steered clear of Naval Action since most of the reviews I saw for it were those discussing the utterly abhorrent ganking culture rapidly swallowing the game.
I miss the early beta stage where you could grab a kill mission and the game would give a mission that is a 1v1 with the shiprate of your choice. Nowadays they give you mostly a 2v1 or 3v1 mission with a shiprate cap. It killed the game for me which is sad because it has so much potential.
I was in the closed and open beta for this and then got distracted with other life stuff. Came back to this during the pandemic - logged in and set sail in my Cerberus to be jumped in by like 5 players and was absolutely crushed. Went to the forums and found out that’s what it game meta essentially was, and then I dropped it. Might take a revisit. Thanks for the vid
Also speaking of perks. One perk I wish they wouldn’t have removed was prepared. That was honestly a really good perk and I hope they readd it for players
Agreed, or they remove it for AI so that it's an even playfield.
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Kill missions were perfect for people who had limited time to play a game, now you have to spend at least 2-3 hours to finish a kill mission which might get boring after some ships, tag the ship, try to stern rake if not kite and bow rake... and repeat it for at lest 15 times more. I think safe zones are good to introduce new people or people who run economy missions. Area might be little excessive, I traveled half of the map with my trader lynx without getting tagged, enemy players didn't even bothered to chase me to the edge of the safe zone and tag.
Personally I support the idea of removing kill missions. They served as a double edged sword for me. I agree they absolutely made doing your quest patrol go so much quicker, as opposed to spending hours trying to finish one search n destroy. They were even quicker to complete than hunt missions. However, they hurt my sense of "open world" by restricting me to a tiny portion of the map, mostly near the port I got the mission from. Of course I could just ignore the option to do them, opting to instead do other mission types. But I don't think anyone would make that choice by themselves. So I would be happy to see the devs make the choice for us by removing kill missions completely
I read the comment. But if you didnt wanna do the mission which you acknowlesged helped with another real.issue. then just dont do the mission player choice is never a bad thong
The only way to make it viablw is provide alternatives. As a newbie trying the game i got bored and quit after trying a few days to find anythimg to do. I followed guides. Tried a pve and pvp server and its just grind..
After a loong time without playing, i could say that i agree with the PVE zone in PVP maps, but personally for me, the zone is inmense... If they manage to reduce it 33% you can still hunt NPCs in safer areas... And get a lot of map to PVP too
I knew of this game for a long time, first it was in beta for too long, then when i saw it on sale all the comments where about pvp ganking making experience miserable... but now, i'm gonna give it a go!
I like the safe zones if I’m honest. The pvpers just love to pick on new players of every nation. I play as the pirates and one of the big big things are the pvpers picking on new pirate players and players in general around the home islands like Mortimer and bara etc, to the point where it has gotten Ridiculous. I really do not feel sorry for the pvpers though. I really don’t. I used to pvp a lot but not as much as I used too. I’m more of a pve player now but will do pvp from time to time. Personally like I said. I don’t feel sorry for pvpers and they got what they deserved for picking on new players. The vote is now in favor of the people that want the safezones to stay and I hope it stays that way. Though I do think they went a tiny bit overboard with the safezones tbh. But with the safezones I honestly can’t complain.
I 100% agree, I don't play the game for the PVP probably never will. The only reason I even play on the F2P server is because I have two friends who got the game after it went F2P and therefore don't have the server access DLC. If I got to choose I'd just stay on the PVE server but then I can't play with my friends. These safe zones really invigorated my will to keep playing because I don't feel stressed out that some ganker is gonna tag me when I leave port now. It was borderline unplayable for some of us, we'd just get tagged by some 1000+ hours in a DLC ship with nothing to loose. Meanwhile me and my friends can't even scrounge up the Reals to buy the guns for a DLC ship even if we had them. The PVP:ers can have their area where they can fight each other and leave the rest of us alone. They truly are really only upset because they can't shit on new/lower rank players anymore.
I disagree to an extent, I only started playing a few months ago and enjoyed the game and yeah got ganked a few times by experienced players but I also love PvP in games. I think there should be a middle ground between no safe zones and safe zones almost everywhere like having safe zones only in the starting capital and its connecting towns as this would give new players still quite a bit of area to play around in while also not just putting those who want to PvP into a small area as it makes someone like myself who only plays more casually and not in a clan a huge impossibility to do PvP without getting annihilated by clans who join the battle with 5 people.
This game was killed by the pvp gamers who spend hundreds of hours and dollars on alt account farming to get the best of the best things. The difference between 2 ships one with rare seasoned woods vs one with more common seasoned woods was night and day. When I realized the amount of time I would have to grind all while being harassed every time I left the port made me quit the game.
When I started playing 2 years ago I learned on the Peace server and made a good group of friends before moving to the PVP server with those friends. @3:05... I'm that person. I play traders a lot and know the trade routes really well. I hunt them specifically lol.
You'll probably enjoy Norseman_53's "through the ranks" series. It's a bit old now, but it's still good to watch. Link to the first episode below. th-cam.com/video/gWeG2AOHqWM/w-d-xo.html
@kairos4486 ik when i made the first comment i hadnt watched the first ep yet so looking at the title thought it was just another tutorial or beginner guide but know ik your working on one and i cant wait for it.
My suggestion about forced PVP is that it should be limited by level and not by zone. Once a player starts the game at level 7, they should be ABLE to pvp, but not required. Once you level up to 4 and above, then forced pvp. This does away with zones all together. ANY player of level 4 to 1 caught ANYWHERE is fare game. A player should be able to flag themselves as either pvp enabled, pvp optional, or non-pvp for those who only want to craft and trade.
I dropped out of Naval Action awhile ago, mainly because playing it took WAY too much time, similar to EVE Online where sometimes I'd spend the better part of an afternoon in a fleet hunting, finding nothing but the odd ship which we'd chase to see if we could get it before it to to the port. It was awhile ago now so we had the old UI for example. If I were to return, I'd like your suggestion, I'd love to have a few days where I can just PvE but then if I need to go out to trade, or move to another location I'll welcome the danger. The current PvE zones looks way too much care bearing.
11:40 id say there seems to be a large difference between killing ai in the pve server and the pvp server. Im getting lots of doubloons/upgrades and trading items.
Deleting prepared is enormously frustrating... you are in an armed ship, raiding commerce or whatnot, see a target, give chase and finally get into battle, and OOPSIE!! guess you did not load the guns before entering combat.
@@MickR0sco not to my recollection. As far as I know, war ships usually during times of war carried their guns loaded, but with tompions in the muzzle and vents well sealed with wax, grease etc. Even if not, when a ship was chasing down another, they would make damn sure to load every gun well before being within actual range.
@@lutzderlurch7877 you're probably right. The decision would have been easy anyway as a chase could take days as a pose to a few seconds on naval action. I think decks were kept clear until combat due to clutter, the galley being lit and all sorts of other things I'm I terested to read up on it again now lol
as far as I recsall, the british navy kept the gun decks mostly clear. cargo was always stored away, hammocks in the nettings up on deck when not in use and personal belongings minimal. when the ship was made ready for action , i.e. the order was given to beat to quarters, everything was carried below, seperation walls struck down and brought into the hold, whilst the guns were untied, the ports opened and guns run out. boats were taken over board etc. I read it took a decent crew of a man of war no longer than a minute and a half to get ready.
I'm assuming this only affects the PVP server and that other "new" server, since the PVE server there is no PVP. I wonder with this update if they are trying to merge all servers back into one server. that would make a lot of sense, because there is not a lot of pvper's compared to pve'ers
My own hope is they will eventually reopen the pvp server to new players and make it totally free of safe zones; a hard mode for the pvpers if you will. Though I doubt that will happen any time soon
NA has become much more chill since the safe zones were introduced, and the update to gun damage has made the game far more balanced and interesting. Definitely give it a try
Your small green PVE zone will be just like before when GANK are waiting their bait outside those small safe zone area and beside only four major nations will be protect while the others many small nations might turn to a ''BIG buffet'' for the gank as they dont have place to hide like the 4 major nations...LOL and that is a ''double standard''. **PS Anyway i sense this green safe zone is a preparation to combine the PVE and PVP into one server which is not bad as the number of players decrease in both server after the opening of the F2P server ...unless they dissolved the F2P. [ which i recommend to turn the F2P into a ''short demo'' and that might be much better for the game ]
Instead of ZONES, why not have a PvE setting for each player? If you want PvP go into settings and select PvP, if you want PvE go into settings and select PvE.
I have been looking into trying this game for a while but was afraid to take the plunge and learn all of it, but did yesterday and boy im happy that i did. Do you have contact with the devs? I got a few ideas which would make this into much greater experience for myself - and i'll gladly contribute with the skills i have. The speeded-up conrols during the free roam is a nice idea, but i would definitely add some manual handling while entering the ports, not mandatory, but you'd gain some XP for that, plus enjoy the handling of the ship like in battle mode. And for that, i would add more complex ports and towns which differ from each other, but still follow each nation's style, and the ports themselves being more complex, with need to manouevre through static boat assets for example, different pierce structures and so on. And modelling the low-poly towns and ports is where i could contribute in my free time.
I'm glad you're enjoying the game. I don't have direct contact with the developers, I'm just a fan of the game who enjoys making videos. However, if you join the Naval Action Official Discord, I believe there's a spot where you can post suggestions. I've done it myself a couple of times.
Started watching your videos and feel like starting the game again. Have not played since Jan. 2018 so I know things will be different. Question, since I own the game will I be able to switch between Caribbean, War and Peace servers or am I stuck with the one I join. If so, does a wipe on Caribbean affect other servers? Thanks for Videos.
Welcome back to Naval Action. If you bought the game back in 2018 you should be able to play on any of the current servers. I started playing about the same time, and I can still access them all.
You can kill some 5ths in one salvo but you can't kill a 1st rate in lower rates anymore. No chance no kiting a ship. I lost my gifited cerberus trying to kite an Ingermanland. Also the Wind keeep loking you, tricking you and pushing you to the Beach.
Yes, I probably didn't make it clear enough just how much more difficult it is for light ships to attack heavy ships. A Cerberus will not last long against a 4th rate.
After nearly 15,000 hours of play, I believe I can give an objective opinion on this game: - a superb achievement at the base, an exceptional niche game, very good graphics, very good combat mechanics, I only played that for 6 years. Six years of happiness with a great community! The current developers, if we can call them that, have totally destroyed the game by changing the basic mechanics, and this on many occasions, until today where the game has become uninteresting, time-consuming and above all oriented to generate money, in complete disregard of the loyal player base...unacceptable... ABSOLUTELY AVOID!! SAVE YOUR MONEY, DON'T BUY DLC!!!
Thanks for the updates. I bought this game before it was fully released. I haven't had time to get back into it bc i wanted to wait till they flushed out the kinks. Does this game seem like it'll stay afloat with enough people playing it.
I think that as long as the developers continue on the course they're currently on, then Naval Action definitely will still have a player base for a long while yet. Right now you should have no problem at all finding other players online.
That was so many years ago, so many failed dev experiments ago. The game has an extreme grind, and if you aren't in a top clan you pretty much won't be able to do anything worthwhile.
Thanks! And you mean naval service medals, right? We get them the same way we always have, but it will take longer now that kill missions aren't an option. Make sure you're rocking plenty of hunt/search and destroy missions
PvP hasn't 'changed' as much as been devastated. Its not the safe zone so much but the combat mechanics. Battles last too long. 1 v 1 is pointless if both players are reasonably experienced and don't give up stern rakes, you just can't kill each other. 1st rates are way over-powered, strange how that happened as they released a new 1st rate DLC! and lower rate ships can't compete with higher, so if you go out looking for a fight you are very lucky to find one you can handle. It's just hideous, there's been a mass exodus of PvPers. May as well make the whole map PVE now and be done with it.
I have not played this game, I spent a lot of time in the Pirates of the Burning Sea years ago. When it was all said and done I had a buggy game that no one played. Will this game be the same experience as PBS?
Currently there are usually between 200-400 players online. The game is relatively bug free for a modern game, but the developers have a history of releasing bad patches that upset the community. It's free to play though, so no harm in giving it a try. And it's still got very enjoyable and realistic combat.
Age of pirates, abandoned 'something' is actually a far better pirate game.. It's like a big open world game, where you can be a pirate, a trader, a mercenary, or a captain/lord sailing under the Spanish, british, dutch, french,..etc flags You can do so much. On top of that it has great sea/ship battles. So this game just offers 1% of what age of pirates offers...
Hi, I want to ask you if the game state is appropiate for a new player. I start playing some days ago, and I dont feel very confortable. I know that you have to farm a lot of thing to get a nice ship, but one thing that i dont like too much is that you lost all when they clean the servers every (i dont know how to explain this but i think you catch it). I love this era, i love pirates and ships, but i cant "lost" so much time for simply one ship that some months ago are gonna be delete and have to start again. I think that a have a simple idea that how is the game, and I dont know if the developers are interested in this game so, I ask all of you if sinceresly, this game is worth it for new players that no have much time. thank guys
I still think the game is worth it, provided you go into it with the right attitude. Anything you earn (with the exception of naval service medals) will be gone in a month or so from now with the wipe. Therefore, I'd recommend just grabbing a light ship and seeing how far you can get, learn how trading works, and get good at capturing AI ships; you can go a long way just by doing that. Line ships can be a good long-term goal, but the game is most fun when you largely ignore the unreasonable grind and simply play around with whatever you've managed to accomplish.
While i agree the PVE zones should be shrunk just a little bit, only having the capital cities and small areas marked as PVE would just bring back the ganking culture, for example as a trader in the Fort Royale zone, to make any profit you need to go at least to spanish town, beyond their if you want to make better money you then enter a PVP zone and put yourself at risk, Yes their are a bunch of gankers who will disagree because they want to group up and gank low levels, but that only deters new population growth from the game Alot of peoples first run through, you need safe zones from rank 1, all the way up to rank 10 so people can learn the game, learn small ships all the way to big ships with semi smart AI and PVE without the fear of being ganked and not having the resources to replace that first ever 4th rate they just got. PVP zones should be in area's were leveling and farming is not 100% viable, such as Guadamala , and Neuva Granada as nobody starts off their, or levels their, those zones are purely for PB's, high level trade, and high level content, so making that entire line on the left of the map PVP would please the PVP fanatics, whilst start zones the bubbles should be quite large allowing people to level up in a safe manner and not get ganked by large groups of asswipes who have nothing better to do and leave the game.
Hmm, reinstalled after watching a movie in the time period. It's a shame the old servers are locked to new players. I'm quite fond of all my old stuff, and I wanted to drag my friends to the game.
Safe zones are nice, but this one is just too much imo, one of my problems with this game is the time it takes to travel the world is just too slow, battle times has increased so if you add that to the travel time, a game sesion equals to one or 2 battles, the second one and the reason i stoped playing is that after that hour of pve i had nothing to show for, cause loot just dissapear from 5 or 7 ships that are in a fleet you get to loot 1 or 2 if any, sometimes it just bugs and you leave with nothing, extremely discouraging, the changes to boarding are fine-ish, now you need a ship prepared for boarding with marines and all which is nice but i heard from guild mates sometimes they get a grosventre with 30 marines or something like that which sounds ridiculous.
I'm finding battles are either very long or very quick, depending on the situation and class of ship I'm using. However boarding is gonna take a while to get used to with the changes, I've already lost a good Trinc to an angry AI frigate full of marines.
In my experience when you make the PVE players the content for the PVP players the game will die rather quickly. Basically you cannibalize your player base.
The "Loki Rune" was the last straw for me. Couldn't even enjoy hunting AI ships anymore because they made a way for people to take them over and sink your ships for the lulz.
the first part of the video had me thinking of uninstalling the game and never going back then i seen you fighting and it looked kind the same how it was back in the day witch i like so i may give it a other go but then seen you can't leave port with out having full crew is a game killer for me so going to uninstall this game now and never play it again
I have been a PvPer in this game since 2016 and I am sad to see that the shift has been towards PvE. The AI has always been lacking in this game and the only real joy it had was in the truely openworld PvP. The game already had safe zones around the capitals and there were OP AI fleets that would tag enemy players attempting to hunt in those water. That was more than enough. I think the population will probably get one more boost after this wipe in July but after that it'll go back to it's usual ~150 players during the US timezones because there is just nothing to do anymore.
@@quarreneverett4767 There is a PvE server but the developers closed access for new players when the game went free to play. If you bought a copy of the game before it was FTP you can access the "Peace" server which doesn't allow for PvP. But it has always been a mostly abandoned server because the game has been marketed and designed around PvP.
@@kairos4486 I stopped playing after covid lock down due to time issues.. but have just seen player numbers drop patch after patch.. maybe this will pull back a few pve only players but think the core player base wont be happy with it..
I've stopped playing as the dervs are a waste of space imo. They should open the closed full PVE server which you have access to them if you had the game for years as they closed it a few years ago to new players. They could open that to all PVE players and leave the PVP as it was total PVP then you wouldn't have any issues at all.
@@kairos4486 it does make it more balanced. otherwise you have some countries with low player count and pretty much useless. but i do miss being able to fly the dutch flag, (i am dutch :))
I also play Sea of Thieves and this is very different, but once you get the hang of it it'll give you the most realistic age of sail combat in gaming right now
Waiting outside for NEW players then Ruin there game and go look at me I AM POWER you are nothing haha .THIS why I hate PVP every PVP game is the SAME thing
if you cry because of gankers. Your nation should start having defence and ships patrolling takin them down. Thats how we did it when i played back in the days when everything was legal without all the shit rules
One thing I forgot to mention in the video is the ship auction has had a major overhaul. Not only can you see ships for sale in other ports, but the auction UI has been updated and is now much more user-friendly in my opinion.
And thanks everyone for the comments. I'll do my best to read and respond to as many as I can o7
I feel like stern rakes should be absolutely devastating for the crew and not so much the structure. As it is now it feels weird that you get a good stern rake in and the ship just sinks.
Did they make damage realistic again
I'm inclined to agree, that would be more realistic at any rate
that used to be the case a couple years ago and it was great. They keep making these huge "other end of the spectrum" changes to dmg and tank as if they were beta phases and obviously pissing off everyone in the process.
It should be both. The whole point of raking the stern is your shots travel the length of the ship maximising the amount of damage it does to the hull and also damage to the crew via being hit with a cannon ball or via splintering from hull damage. I definitely think however it should be more focused on crew damage rather than hull damage.
@@kairos4486 This is your damage mechanic that makes it easier for new players: th-cam.com/video/g2KGTDnfta4/w-d-xo.html
The kill missions are gone because lower level ones (5th rate in particular) would be unbalanced with thr new gun damage. While it's not a big issue for good players, getting a kill mission that has a noob in a Cerberus face off against a Trincomolee would be... rough to say the least.
At least that's what the devs said on the steam forums.
Thanks for the info. It's nice to know we have some explanation at least. Though I still hope the missions will be brought back at some point, perhaps with some rebalancing for the new gun damage.
I may check this game out now that they've implemented safe zones. After years of playing Rust and remembering my experiences with PVP in Warcraft, I steered clear of Naval Action since most of the reviews I saw for it were those discussing the utterly abhorrent ganking culture rapidly swallowing the game.
Isnt there pve
I agree with the safe zones. Some players want to invest time in trade. The ganking was overboard and made me leave too
YES! ive been waiting for this since you looked at the update notes last video
Hope the video was interesting to you!
@@kairos4486 as a newer player your channel has been vital to my gameplay LOL ty sm!
I miss the early beta stage where you could grab a kill mission and the game would give a mission that is a 1v1 with the shiprate of your choice. Nowadays they give you mostly a 2v1 or 3v1 mission with a shiprate cap. It killed the game for me which is sad because it has so much potential.
I was in the closed and open beta for this and then got distracted with other life stuff. Came back to this during the pandemic - logged in and set sail in my Cerberus to be jumped in by like 5 players and was absolutely crushed. Went to the forums and found out that’s what it game meta essentially was, and then I dropped it. Might take a revisit. Thanks for the vid
Was pve worth it
Kill missions were also easy ways to get high rate ships. You could solo it.
Also speaking of perks. One perk I wish they wouldn’t have removed was prepared. That was honestly a really good perk and I hope they readd it for players
Same
Agreed, or they remove it for AI so that it's an even playfield.
Kill missions were perfect for people who had limited time to play a game, now you have to spend at least 2-3 hours to finish a kill mission which might get boring after some ships, tag the ship, try to stern rake if not kite and bow rake... and repeat it for at lest 15 times more. I think safe zones are good to introduce new people or people who run economy missions. Area might be little excessive, I traveled half of the map with my trader lynx without getting tagged, enemy players didn't even bothered to chase me to the edge of the safe zone and tag.
Personally I support the idea of removing kill missions. They served as a double edged sword for me. I agree they absolutely made doing your quest patrol go so much quicker, as opposed to spending hours trying to finish one search n destroy. They were even quicker to complete than hunt missions.
However, they hurt my sense of "open world" by restricting me to a tiny portion of the map, mostly near the port I got the mission from. Of course I could just ignore the option to do them, opting to instead do other mission types. But I don't think anyone would make that choice by themselves. So I would be happy to see the devs make the choice for us by removing kill missions completely
Thanks for the comment. Nice to get a different perspective
I read the comment. But if you didnt wanna do the mission which you acknowlesged helped with another real.issue. then just dont do the mission player choice is never a bad thong
The only way to make it viablw is provide alternatives. As a newbie trying the game i got bored and quit after trying a few days to find anythimg to do. I followed guides. Tried a pve and pvp server and its just grind..
they should mimic how pirates of the burning sea does it, since essentially it is the same game in scope
to find ships of the line you have to go to hipaniola or puerto rico
Good to know!
ACTUALLY funny I found your video you gave me the loot from an Belle P after 2v11 and carrying me THANKS Again
Ah yes I remember you. you're welcome
After a loong time without playing, i could say that i agree with the PVE zone in PVP maps, but personally for me, the zone is inmense... If they manage to reduce it 33% you can still hunt NPCs in safer areas... And get a lot of map to PVP too
I'm inclined to agree, but they put up a poll and the leave it alone vote won. So I think the current zones will remain unchanged.
I knew of this game for a long time, first it was in beta for too long, then when i saw it on sale all the comments where about pvp ganking making experience miserable... but now, i'm gonna give it a go!
It's definitely more fun for new players and PvEers now than it used to be.
I like the safe zones if I’m honest. The pvpers just love to pick on new players of every nation. I play as the pirates and one of the big big things are the pvpers picking on new pirate players and players in general around the home islands like Mortimer and bara etc, to the point where it has gotten Ridiculous. I really do not feel sorry for the pvpers though. I really don’t. I used to pvp a lot but not as much as I used too. I’m more of a pve player now but will do pvp from time to time.
Personally like I said. I don’t feel sorry for pvpers and they got what they deserved for picking on new players. The vote is now in favor of the people that want the safezones to stay and I hope it stays that way. Though I do think they went a tiny bit overboard with the safezones tbh. But with the safezones I honestly can’t complain.
I 100% agree, I don't play the game for the PVP probably never will. The only reason I even play on the F2P server is because I have two friends who got the game after it went F2P and therefore don't have the server access DLC. If I got to choose I'd just stay on the PVE server but then I can't play with my friends.
These safe zones really invigorated my will to keep playing because I don't feel stressed out that some ganker is gonna tag me when I leave port now.
It was borderline unplayable for some of us, we'd just get tagged by some 1000+ hours in a DLC ship with nothing to loose. Meanwhile me and my friends can't even scrounge up the Reals to buy the guns for a DLC ship even if we had them.
The PVP:ers can have their area where they can fight each other and leave the rest of us alone. They truly are really only upset because they can't shit on new/lower rank players anymore.
@@RusskiBlusski i agree
I disagree to an extent, I only started playing a few months ago and enjoyed the game and yeah got ganked a few times by experienced players but I also love PvP in games.
I think there should be a middle ground between no safe zones and safe zones almost everywhere like having safe zones only in the starting capital and its connecting towns as this would give new players still quite a bit of area to play around in while also not just putting those who want to PvP into a small area as it makes someone like myself who only plays more casually and not in a clan a huge impossibility to do PvP without getting annihilated by clans who join the battle with 5 people.
This game was killed by the pvp gamers who spend hundreds of hours and dollars on alt account farming to get the best of the best things. The difference between 2 ships one with rare seasoned woods vs one with more common seasoned woods was night and day. When I realized the amount of time I would have to grind all while being harassed every time I left the port made me quit the game.
@@gabemartinez2558 same
For moment this reminded me of archage for moment I had to put my glasses on. What beauitful ship.
When I started playing 2 years ago I learned on the Peace server and made a good group of friends before moving to the PVP server with those friends. @3:05... I'm that person. I play traders a lot and know the trade routes really well. I hunt them specifically lol.
Would love an entire series of naval action thats not reviews or guides but gameplay
You'll probably enjoy Norseman_53's "through the ranks" series. It's a bit old now, but it's still good to watch. Link to the first episode below.
th-cam.com/video/gWeG2AOHqWM/w-d-xo.html
@kairos4486 appreciate it g, but i meant from you, found out about the game watching your vids couple days ago and i enjoyed them alot
@eggkillergaming4348 Well, I have my "finding your sea legs" series in the works, so hopefully you'll get more gameplay there. I'll see what I can do
@kairos4486 ik when i made the first comment i hadnt watched the first ep yet so looking at the title thought it was just another tutorial or beginner guide but know ik your working on one and i cant wait for it.
@eggkillergaming4348 hope you enjoy the series
My suggestion about forced PVP is that it should be limited by level and not by zone. Once a player starts the game at level 7, they should be ABLE to pvp, but not required. Once you level up to 4 and above, then forced pvp. This does away with zones all together. ANY player of level 4 to 1 caught ANYWHERE is fare game. A player should be able to flag themselves as either pvp enabled, pvp optional, or non-pvp for those who only want to craft and trade.
I dropped out of Naval Action awhile ago, mainly because playing it took WAY too much time, similar to EVE Online where sometimes I'd spend the better part of an afternoon in a fleet hunting, finding nothing but the odd ship which we'd chase to see if we could get it before it to to the port. It was awhile ago now so we had the old UI for example.
If I were to return, I'd like your suggestion, I'd love to have a few days where I can just PvE but then if I need to go out to trade, or move to another location I'll welcome the danger.
The current PvE zones looks way too much care bearing.
11:40 id say there seems to be a large difference between killing ai in the pve server and the pvp server. Im getting lots of doubloons/upgrades and trading items.
I guess I've been getting unlucky with doubloons then. I'll have to attack more ships in the pvp zones
Deleting prepared is enormously frustrating... you are in an armed ship, raiding commerce or whatnot, see a target, give chase and finally get into battle, and OOPSIE!! guess you did not load the guns before entering combat.
Actually kinda accurate. They'd load guns at the last minute to keep the powder dry but the way to 'tag' players on naval action makes it seems silly
@@MickR0sco not to my recollection. As far as I know, war ships usually during times of war carried their guns loaded, but with tompions in the muzzle and vents well sealed with wax, grease etc.
Even if not, when a ship was chasing down another, they would make damn sure to load every gun well before being within actual range.
@@lutzderlurch7877 you're probably right. The decision would have been easy anyway as a chase could take days as a pose to a few seconds on naval action. I think decks were kept clear until combat due to clutter, the galley being lit and all sorts of other things I'm I terested to read up on it again now lol
as far as I recsall, the british navy kept the gun decks mostly clear. cargo was always stored away, hammocks in the nettings up on deck when not in use and personal belongings minimal.
when the ship was made ready for action , i.e. the order was given to beat to quarters, everything was carried below, seperation walls struck down and brought into the hold, whilst the guns were untied, the ports opened and guns run out.
boats were taken over board etc.
I read it took a decent crew of a man of war no longer than a minute and a half to get ready.
I'm assuming this only affects the PVP server and that other "new" server, since the PVE server there is no PVP. I wonder with this update if they are trying to merge all servers back into one server. that would make a lot of sense, because there is not a lot of pvper's compared to pve'ers
My own hope is they will eventually reopen the pvp server to new players and make it totally free of safe zones; a hard mode for the pvpers if you will. Though I doubt that will happen any time soon
Idk i was in a pve server a few years ago and it still had forced pvp in it..
the other way of sight is,... those who want to make PVP are closer together, so more fun for them :)
After not having touched Naval Action in 6 years I might give it another go if the safe zones stick around like this tbh
NA has become much more chill since the safe zones were introduced, and the update to gun damage has made the game far more balanced and interesting. Definitely give it a try
Your small green PVE zone will be just like before when GANK are waiting their bait outside those small safe zone area and beside only four major nations will be protect while the others many small nations might turn to a ''BIG buffet'' for the gank as they dont have place to hide like the 4 major nations...LOL and that is a ''double standard''. **PS Anyway i sense this green safe zone is a preparation to combine the PVE and PVP into one server which is not bad as the number of players decrease in both server after the opening of the F2P server ...unless they dissolved the F2P. [ which i recommend to turn the F2P into a ''short demo'' and that might be much better for the game ]
Instead of ZONES, why not have a PvE setting for each player? If you want PvP go into settings and select PvP, if you want PvE go into settings and select PvE.
I have been looking into trying this game for a while but was afraid to take the plunge and learn all of it, but did yesterday and boy im happy that i did. Do you have contact with the devs? I got a few ideas which would make this into much greater experience for myself - and i'll gladly contribute with the skills i have. The speeded-up conrols during the free roam is a nice idea, but i would definitely add some manual handling while entering the ports, not mandatory, but you'd gain some XP for that, plus enjoy the handling of the ship like in battle mode. And for that, i would add more complex ports and towns which differ from each other, but still follow each nation's style, and the ports themselves being more complex, with need to manouevre through static boat assets for example, different pierce structures and so on. And modelling the low-poly towns and ports is where i could contribute in my free time.
I'm glad you're enjoying the game. I don't have direct contact with the developers, I'm just a fan of the game who enjoys making videos. However, if you join the Naval Action Official Discord, I believe there's a spot where you can post suggestions. I've done it myself a couple of times.
All great videos, very informative, but mate, when is your next video? Been waiting for a month now.
Hey, mate. I've been in Sydney for the past few weeks with no gaming PC. But I'm back now so more videos should be out soon.
Started watching your videos and feel like starting the game again. Have not played since Jan. 2018 so I know things will be different. Question, since I own the game will I be able to switch between Caribbean, War and Peace servers or am I stuck with the one I join. If so, does a wipe on Caribbean affect other servers? Thanks for Videos.
Welcome back to Naval Action. If you bought the game back in 2018 you should be able to play on any of the current servers. I started playing about the same time, and I can still access them all.
@@kairos4486 Thanks, subscribed.
You can kill some 5ths in one salvo but you can't kill a 1st rate in lower rates anymore. No chance no kiting a ship. I lost my gifited cerberus trying to kite an Ingermanland. Also the Wind keeep loking you, tricking you and pushing you to the Beach.
Yes, I probably didn't make it clear enough just how much more difficult it is for light ships to attack heavy ships. A Cerberus will not last long against a 4th rate.
@@kairos4486 the only possibility now is maybe by boarding with mods
The bow and stern raking is very unrealisticly OP :( , it should be effective but this is crazy.
Great video. Subbed!
I wish this game got more updates and they didnt lock the servers that dont wipe such a shame since no other games cover this period
Seadogs also known as age of pirates series is really good
Yeap I made the right decision........ RIP NA
where are you KairoS?? missing your great videos and reviews of this game mechanics..
I've been up in Sydney with no access to a gaming computer the last few months. I'll be uploading again soon I hope
I wonder why in this game online is around 400-800 players, when this game is actually great ..
I mean checkcthese comments there are several real reasons
After nearly 15,000 hours of play, I believe I can give an objective opinion on this game:
- a superb achievement at the base, an exceptional niche game, very good graphics, very good combat mechanics, I only played that for 6 years. Six years of happiness with a great community!
The current developers, if we can call them that, have totally destroyed the game by changing the basic mechanics, and this on many occasions, until today where the game has become uninteresting, time-consuming and above all oriented to generate money, in complete disregard of the loyal player base...unacceptable...
ABSOLUTELY AVOID!! SAVE YOUR MONEY, DON'T BUY DLC!!!
Wait werent players wanting more damage back from cannons? They are readding the damage. So what did they ruin they wantd
Thanks for the updates. I bought this game before it was fully released. I haven't had time to get back into it bc i wanted to wait till they flushed out the kinks. Does this game seem like it'll stay afloat with enough people playing it.
I think that as long as the developers continue on the course they're currently on, then Naval Action definitely will still have a player base for a long while yet. Right now you should have no problem at all finding other players online.
That was so many years ago, so many failed dev experiments ago. The game has an extreme grind, and if you aren't in a top clan you pretty much won't be able to do anything worthwhile.
Great video,but how do we get nsm now
Thanks! And you mean naval service medals, right? We get them the same way we always have, but it will take longer now that kill missions aren't an option. Make sure you're rocking plenty of hunt/search and destroy missions
PvP hasn't 'changed' as much as been devastated. Its not the safe zone so much but the combat mechanics. Battles last too long. 1 v 1 is pointless if both players are reasonably experienced and don't give up stern rakes, you just can't kill each other. 1st rates are way over-powered, strange how that happened as they released a new 1st rate DLC! and lower rate ships can't compete with higher, so if you go out looking for a fight you are very lucky to find one you can handle. It's just hideous, there's been a mass exodus of PvPers. May as well make the whole map PVE now and be done with it.
shout out to all 4 players
Is there a website with a list of ships and the new BR? Can’t find one.
Your best bet will probably be the Naval Action netlify app. Link below...
na-map.netlify.app/
i miss coming out of battle and retain the damage
I have not played this game, I spent a lot of time in the Pirates of the Burning Sea years ago. When it was all said and done I had a buggy game that no one played. Will this game be the same experience as PBS?
Currently there are usually between 200-400 players online. The game is relatively bug free for a modern game, but the developers have a history of releasing bad patches that upset the community. It's free to play though, so no harm in giving it a try. And it's still got very enjoyable and realistic combat.
@@kairos4486 Thank you for your info.
Hey I just heard theres going to be a wipe July 1st is that true?
I'm not sure myself, but I imagine that would be true. It would be about 6 months since the last wipe I think
Age of pirates, abandoned 'something' is actually a far better pirate game.. It's like a big open world game, where you can be a pirate, a trader, a mercenary, or a captain/lord sailing under the Spanish, british, dutch, french,..etc flags You can do so much. On top of that it has great sea/ship battles.
So this game just offers 1% of what age of pirates offers...
Yeah its called sea dogs now. Its part of a series of games
Played it to death in 2014-15, have zero inclination to go back
It annoys me that I threw away the money for it back then.
Weird I don't get the vote option?
I'm not sure why that would be, sorry. Send a bug report if it doesn't show up I guess
@@kairos4486 I can't either. I am new and low xp, maybe that's it?
Only established F2P gamers got to vote. Those on War Server who've never played on F2P cannot vote.
So the middle bar is the healthbar the others are armor bars?
Yes, that's correct. And the small bars on the front and back are your bow and stern armour.
Hi, I want to ask you if the game state is appropiate for a new player. I start playing some days ago, and I dont feel very confortable. I know that you have to farm a lot of thing to get a nice ship, but one thing that i dont like too much is that you lost all when they clean the servers every (i dont know how to explain this but i think you catch it). I love this era, i love pirates and ships, but i cant "lost" so much time for simply one ship that some months ago are gonna be delete and have to start again. I think that a have a simple idea that how is the game, and I dont know if the developers are interested in this game so, I ask all of you if sinceresly, this game is worth it for new players that no have much time. thank guys
I still think the game is worth it, provided you go into it with the right attitude. Anything you earn (with the exception of naval service medals) will be gone in a month or so from now with the wipe. Therefore, I'd recommend just grabbing a light ship and seeing how far you can get, learn how trading works, and get good at capturing AI ships; you can go a long way just by doing that. Line ships can be a good long-term goal, but the game is most fun when you largely ignore the unreasonable grind and simply play around with whatever you've managed to accomplish.
Yes KairoS, 9pds lost 83% of their damage.
While i agree the PVE zones should be shrunk just a little bit, only having the capital cities and small areas marked as PVE would just bring back the ganking culture, for example as a trader in the Fort Royale zone, to make any profit you need to go at least to spanish town, beyond their if you want to make better money you then enter a PVP zone and put yourself at risk, Yes their are a bunch of gankers who will disagree because they want to group up and gank low levels, but that only deters new population growth from the game
Alot of peoples first run through, you need safe zones from rank 1, all the way up to rank 10 so people can learn the game, learn small ships all the way to big ships with semi smart AI and PVE without the fear of being ganked and not having the resources to replace that first ever 4th rate they just got.
PVP zones should be in area's were leveling and farming is not 100% viable, such as Guadamala , and Neuva Granada as nobody starts off their, or levels their, those zones are purely for PB's, high level trade, and high level content, so making that entire line on the left of the map PVP would please the PVP fanatics, whilst start zones the bubbles should be quite large allowing people to level up in a safe manner and not get ganked by large groups of asswipes who have nothing better to do and leave the game.
Hmm, reinstalled after watching a movie in the time period.
It's a shame the old servers are locked to new players.
I'm quite fond of all my old stuff, and I wanted to drag my friends to the game.
Safe zones are nice, but this one is just too much imo, one of my problems with this game is the time it takes to travel the world is just too slow, battle times has increased so if you add that to the travel time, a game sesion equals to one or 2 battles, the second one and the reason i stoped playing is that after that hour of pve i had nothing to show for, cause loot just dissapear from 5 or 7 ships that are in a fleet you get to loot 1 or 2 if any, sometimes it just bugs and you leave with nothing, extremely discouraging, the changes to boarding are fine-ish, now you need a ship prepared for boarding with marines and all which is nice but i heard from guild mates sometimes they get a grosventre with 30 marines or something like that which sounds ridiculous.
I'm finding battles are either very long or very quick, depending on the situation and class of ship I'm using. However boarding is gonna take a while to get used to with the changes, I've already lost a good Trinc to an angry AI frigate full of marines.
But stern raking doesn't yield much XP. So your grind to rank up just scaled crazy high...
Oh no
In my experience when you make the PVE players the content for the PVP players the game will die rather quickly. Basically you cannibalize your player base.
The "Loki Rune" was the last straw for me. Couldn't even enjoy hunting AI ships anymore because they made a way for people to take them over and sink your ships for the lulz.
Is there still the season wipes?
Yes, sometime this month probably
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the first part of the video had me thinking of uninstalling the game and never going back then i seen you fighting and it looked kind the same how it was back in the day witch i like so i may give it a other go but then seen you can't leave port with out having full crew is a game killer for me so going to uninstall this game now and never play it again
I have been a PvPer in this game since 2016 and I am sad to see that the shift has been towards PvE. The AI has always been lacking in this game and the only real joy it had was in the truely openworld PvP. The game already had safe zones around the capitals and there were OP AI fleets that would tag enemy players attempting to hunt in those water. That was more than enough. I think the population will probably get one more boost after this wipe in July but after that it'll go back to it's usual ~150 players during the US timezones because there is just nothing to do anymore.
Are there pve servers. I tried to get into the game. But mucj grind and jump. Gotta grind to compete.
@@quarreneverett4767 There is a PvE server but the developers closed access for new players when the game went free to play. If you bought a copy of the game before it was FTP you can access the "Peace" server which doesn't allow for PvP. But it has always been a mostly abandoned server because the game has been marketed and designed around PvP.
Talk about going totally against what the game was about to start with.. Like you said safe zones should be capital areas only..
They did a poll on this issue but most people voted not to reduce the size of safe zones, so I have a feeling they're here to stay.
@@kairos4486 I stopped playing after covid lock down due to time issues.. but have just seen player numbers drop patch after patch.. maybe this will pull back a few pve only players but think the core player base wont be happy with it..
This game is littly called naval action
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I've stopped playing as the dervs are a waste of space imo. They should open the closed full PVE server which you have access to them if you had the game for years as they closed it a few years ago to new players. They could open that to all PVE players and leave the PVP as it was total PVP then you wouldn't have any issues at all.
The carebears had their own server. Go cry on there
wait, so they removed the prussians, amercans and the dutch? i mean it is understandable but still kind of sad in my opinion
Yes, they did. I think having only 4 nations makes the game more balanced, but I do miss all those pretty flags.
@@kairos4486 it does make it more balanced. otherwise you have some countries with low player count and pretty much useless. but i do miss being able to fly the dutch flag, (i am dutch :))
Still reseting every 3 months?
Every 6 months apparently
Gosh it looks so complicated... After Sea of Thieves dynamics it looks like a turn based strategy.
I also play Sea of Thieves and this is very different, but once you get the hang of it it'll give you the most realistic age of sail combat in gaming right now
What about sea dogs. Also known as age of pirates. Series
Waiting outside for NEW players then Ruin there game and go look at me I AM POWER you are nothing haha .THIS why I hate PVP every PVP game is the SAME thing
The game is shit. Sorry. Do not play it!
if you cry because of gankers. Your nation should start having defence and ships patrolling takin them down. Thats how we did it when i played back in the days when everything was legal without all the shit rules