As always I love the reviews! This is the bike I currently ride! I bought the full build & added the Systembar R-One. The bar felt thin in the tops compared to the Sworks Aerofly 2 I was on before, but I got used to it quickly. The drops have been great over rough road(I sprint from the hoods anyway). I haven't felt any top heaviness at all, maybe it's a size difference thing (possibly the bar too). I'm on a 54 with the 42/100 cockpit. The only real drawback I've found for me is the stock HollowGram R-SL 50 front wheel is rough in a strong crosswind & slows me down a bit sometimes. That's my 2¢ anyway. Great to hear someone else's opinion on what I've been experiencing since September!
Joe, great to hear from you and thank you especially for the time spent watching me ramble on for the eternity. I haven't ridden any Hollowgrams but I am not hearing positive things from many. Thanks again and take care!
@@DiabeticCycling the only time I question them is the high speed windy descent. It could even be my technique from 30+ years of mountain bikes not being ideal for the smooth road stuff, which is something I hadn't thought about before. Hmmmmm
Hi!! Hopefull, 6 will take good care of you! I thank you so much for spending the time with me watching this episode and dropping a comment. And especially someone also struggling with insulin to boot.... Although I need to declare that my diabetes is a result of my own poor life style in the past, type 2.... Be safe out there and hope to see you again here!
I really appreciate your reviews. Especially knowing that the reviews are honest as they can be (relative to other reviewers on TH-cam). I've ridden this new Supersix Evo for 2500 miles. My take is a little different from yours. I am coming from a rim brake 2018 Supersix Evo which is superlight (6.5 kg). I looked at the geometry and I knew that the bike would not be as reactive as the 2018 model . The longer wheelbase, longer trail measurements, and the new stack and reach measurements make the bike very, very stable and predictable. However, the tradeoff is a reduced feeling of reactivity from my 2018 model which was a climbing delight. That said, this is a much better all-rounder bike whereas my 2018 was a climbing specialist. To mirror your experience, this bike climbs extremely well, but its not exceptional at climbing like the 2018 rim brake version. However, this bike descends much better than the 2018 version and is definitely much more aero and holds the speed very well on the flats. I am using the Cannondale Hollowgram wheels that came with the bike and I find the bike extremely comfortable for all day rides. I don't find the seat post uncomfortable, I don't find that the MOMO bars are not stiff enough. I am running the bike tubeless with 28c tires (not sure if this makes a difference). While I love my 2018 rim brake Evo. I think If I had to keep one bike, it would be the new Supersix Evo. The geometry changes work well for me (I did work with a fitter to make sure the bike was tailored to me as best as possible). I started my cycling journey with a CAADX, moved to a CAAD10, then a Supersix Evo 2018 rim brake before moving to the current one. I've stuck with Cannondale for all my bikes through the years.
Like always, excellent video. Lab71 frame and Dura Ace are for deep pocket cyclists and for the pros. For the 99.9% of average cyclist...the EVO 2 is an excellent option. Ultegra Di2, 45 deep carbon wheels, carbon handlebar and bit more heavy for $5,500...boom!!
Cannot confirm this review at all. My own Lab71 is also equipped with the r-one bar and I really love it. Stiffness is good enough for a 1200 Watt sprint but it is also damn good in ergonomics. I reworked some things after the workshop did a lot things not perfect as I would do it myself. Compared to my black inc Supersix evo it is a lot faster in the flat but not slower on hills. On the top I stacked 2 cm higher with a different handling feel at all. I get used to it within 20 km of usage. Comparing to the superstiff SystemSix it is a nearly as fast but drives like on a magic carpet. Btw. the pros of EF are also using the r-one bar, but not the bottle cages. I heard the SL8 is very uncomfortable from a friend. To be honest, the bike feels different on rides because your body is different everyday, the bike is, I swear, for 100% the same. 😂
@@DDai-qd8uk how could EF so successful with a crappy bike? What is happening with specialized? Nothing is available and huge discounts. Should it be the other way round, if cannondale would build crappy bikes?
Show me a discount on an sl8 and I'll buy them all. My old lab71 had a split personality. Different every day and across different temperatures. Really just a crap bike, it's really evident when compared to my current sl8. For a pro rider, it's less about the bike, more about the legs. Anyway, they don't ride lab71, they ride himod. Or maybe the procen air is why they've won a few 😂
@@DDai-qd8uk back to the facts ... You remember DD reviewed a Highmod with systembar r-one. Maybe he missed to compress the headset with 4Nm. See the manual.
@@GTRapt0r how are you getting on with the delta steerer and bike in general, any issues or setup problems with the wedges? trying to get some feedback as i'm concidering getting the hi mod frameset
Another great review, thanks DC! As with other recent bike reviews, this would not be a bike that would be in the lineup that I would be considering for my next ride, however, I am always open to learning about different options, especially from someone that I trust. As you were discussing the phenomena where you could not make up your mind about the ride of the bike, one day thinking X and the next day thinking Y....what came to my mind was that sometimes a person and a bike will just 'mesh' together and everything just clicks. Your back-and-forth with this bike indicated to me that you and the this bike were just not a perfect fit....and that is OK....that does not mean that it is not a great bike, it just means that it is not the perfect bike for you.
Great review bro, man, all these high priced high tech bikes probably don’t compare to my Cervelo R3. Super light, super areo, super fast from start and ongoing. I just put size 28c pirelli tires on my bike and now lots more compliance too. This bike is the pre-Soloist and very affordable and still going since 2014. Bravo on all your reviews, love your explanations and honesty. Btw, the cannondale bike is too unpredictable and that would through me off getting that too heavy bike. Please compare the wheels and the Soloist to the specialized Sl8 and an Athos or Crux. Thank you
Great video as always, DC! Your videography gets better every time. I really like that you add the locations to the b-roll. Maybe especially since I’m more or less in the area. Looking forward to the wheel comparison video:-)😊
Always pleasure hearing from you each episode! The location tagging, I started with the last episode thinking doing so may relate to those who can identify the same roads shown. Great to hear you liked!
Lovely shots, but please get to the content before 3 mins in - I’d like this video a lot more if you shared info earlier, then did the BRoll sexy shots, and asked for likes and subs once you’d delivered some value. I reckon you’ll also find you get better retention, and thus your channel would be pushed more with successful vids. Non the less - keep it up and thanks for the useful review :)
Nice review DC. I own the same bike color and size. Except it has Winspace Hyper D45 wheels with Prime carbon aero handlebars fully intergraded (16.3 lbs). I've put about 5K miles on my 2024 Supersix evo and so far I'm loving it. I did end up putting a Specialized Evo mirror saddle to help with my stiffness of the seat post.
I’m kind of glad I ended up buying my evo himod before this video dropped as I have had completely different experience 😅. I think your video would have swayed me away from the bike. But I might have liked the other option just as much (factor o2) The momo handlebar works great for me. I can’t feel the flex at all. Granted, I’m 62kg and I’m not doing full out sprints. But I definitely do a lot of climbing. and I actually feel like the rear end has plenty of compliance. My favorite part of this bike is actually how stable it is. It’s confidence inspiring going downhill. I think this characteristic is really different for a race bike and I can totally see why people who races crit may want a more twitchy bike. But most of all, like you said, all these bikes are great bikes and none of them will make us any faster. I wanted a bike that I liked the looks of, and this checked all the boxes. (No weird features, no super wide/aero tubing or forks). Just a really nicely balanced bike. I got my hi mod frameset with the momo bars brand new with 20% off. So definitely ask for deals!
Absolutely! Things I mentioned that I don't care for, just my opinion especially when certain topics can't be quantified or validated via agreed upon standards. Hopefully, you still enjoyed what I put out. Appreciate the time!
Absolutely enjoyed your opinion on these things. It’s good to hear other people’s perspectives that’s not coming from a normal review channel. They always only ever say good things about every bike. Just makes me realize, from a normal cyclist, we all look for different things from a bike
Hi Paul. Most of my bikes were/are fitted with 170mm although I have a crankset in the garage with 165mm to test out what the latest hoopla is all about.
Can you help me understand which one is better? The 2022 evo without a number and the 2024 evo 2? I know the difference is on the new one having a threaded BB and the different handlebar. But which one do you think is better? They are currently priced the same so hard for me to decide
Hi, Rommel. So weird, one of my close buddies riding together is also Rommel Reyes. I was like what? :) Anyhow, I'm afraid I'm not qualified to comment and answer your question because I don't have personal experience on a 2022 Evo. I have no idea how that bike rides, and therefore can't answer which is better or worse.... Sorry.
I have the same bike in size 54 with the same momo handlebar. I don’t find the handlebar appears to be flexi. My downside is the shitty headunit mount. It couldn’t hold my Garmin properly as it rattled around. I had to replace the plastic mount with a 3rd party unit.
Man, the best part about your videos is the intro music. I wish it was playing throughout the video so we wouldn't have to hear your voice. hahaha. Just joking!!!! I know you need comments to get more YT exposure, so they maybe (in)appropriate and/or meaningless but never negative. I am doing tax work, sipping my coffee and enjoying your video, Sir!
Good to hear from you again! In all honesty, I don't want to hear my own voice, either!!! I feel you! I do put in a ton of effort in the intro piece. Great to hear you enjoyed it. Thank you for dropping this as you mentioned. Always great to know there's someone else on the other side of the camera.
I own a 2023 hi-mod 2 size 56 fully stock and I have to say I am very surprised by your experience. Maybe it is the Momo bar or something related to the size of the frame, or even the wheels and tires you are riding but for me, the bike always feels the same on every ride and I've put over 6k km on it. It feels extremely fast, smooth, comfortable, planted to the ground and awesome at clinbing and descending. The stock hollowgram wheels, albeit a bit heavier than other wheelsets, feel lively under acceleration and hold speed extremely well. None of the other reviews I've seen have reported similar issues to what you experienced, so I am glad you mentioned at the beginning to take your findings with a grain of salt.
@@DiabeticCycling TBH i don't think it's that easy to separate how you feel on a given day vs. how the bike feels. I'm currently trying to evaluate my CAAD13 vs. my Aethos to see if one is expendable, but I'm having trouble largely due to this difficulty. On a good day, the CAAD13 feels great - on more than one occasion, I've thought to myself, "this is all the bike I need." But on a bad day, I start to question myself. If I have low energy, I think "it's nice to have the Aethos because it takes less effort to ride it." But does this really justify having two bikes that are so simiilar? I'm still not sure. The Aethos is sharper and stiffer, while the CAAD is more comfortable but still handles very well. I go back and forth between the two, and I'd prefer having a one bike solution, but I just can't make up my mind.
The top end models of all bikes are cazy expensive. How would this review be different if you bought something more realistic like the much better value Ultegra version or even the 105 Di2 which can currently be bought for UKP3200 (USD4000)? I'm considering SuperSix EVO for the slightly more relaxed ride. I also like the way they have done the cockpit with integrated cabling combined with the flexibility of separate bar / stem (lower models). That will enable me to better dial in fit and even keep a couple of stem lenths for different types of riding. I understand it is possible to swap Conceal C1stem without having to re-do hydraulics if you use the semi-integrated option. Has anyone tried this?
Another great video!! Thanks for sharing with us. As the owner of a Soloist i am always interested in how these bikes stack up to that. Love my Soloist!! I know you are not a weight weenie and these are really not meant to be exactly the build you would buy at the LBS, i think it would still be really interesting to see the actual weight of the bike. This would be an interesting point of reference because how it rides for its weight compared to other lighter or heavy bikes can be both better or worse and bike weight is not the "be all" "end all" tell tale sign of speed.
Hi tube! The weight of the build is shown towards the end of the "my build" portion of the episode. I can't recall the exact weight (goes to show you how little I pay attention to that). I think it was above 16lbs, above 7.x kg "ride ready" everything attached.
I wonder your thoughts guys: would the DA wheels be suitable for an endurance bicycle (tubeless setup ) in terms Of comfort or too race-oriented? Thanks.
Going the opposite direction myself. Ditched my soloist and got a Lab71. Love it so much that I also got a regular Evo (non-HM) with 105di2 for horrible weather riding and travel. Love everything about this bike. Although admittedly, I've loved every iteration of EVO. It's THE race bike for me. On bars, I have no experience with momos. Even on my Lab71 I'm using a 110mm conceal stem and control tech aero bars that I love. I feel like I don't like any integrated bar offered on any brand of bike. They are just not the right width / stem length / reach numbers for me.
@@chriskalman4555 Toe overlap has never been top of my list of why I'd choose a bike but SSE did solve that issue by adjusting fork rake. I don't love that they change geometry to fix an issue that happens only when you're riding slow, perhaps commuting and not in a serious training or race situation, but good news is, SSE still rides amazing in size 51 and no toe overlap issue for me. Supersix will be a whopping 20mm higher (51cm vs 51cm) and 9mm shorter (I know reach figure says Soloist is 4mm shorter but the seat tube on it is also 1.3degree slacker which means roughy 13mm more reach. 13-4 = 9mm) SO. Supersix = no toe overlap, 20mm taller stack in the front, 9mm shorter reach.
@@osobazjebanana Nothing I can tell. Lab71 in black is significantly lighter than non-hm in white. (on top of the carbon weight difference, white paint weighs more and black lab71 is probably less weight than other lab71's) But ridewise, I'm sure non-HM with same exact components would be unnoticeable.
I'm in the market for the best feeling climbing bike. What are the noteable frames that you could recommend? Or is there one that you feel is just the best if that's all I'm looking for?
As for handlebars, have you tried out the Coefficient Cycling RR bars? The production is outsourced to Black Inc but design and distribution through coefficient cycling. They have a flat top tube in specific angles to allow for more comfortable and ergonomic hand/arm positions.
I was wondering why al the Cannondale sponsored teams (EF, TDT-unibet) rarely ride the momo bars. Shame, they look really good. Like the beste looking bars ever.
I have momo bar installed on my evo 1 and i absolutely love it. The vision bar it came with was so wide on top and tapered on the drop it didn’t work out for me
I’ve seen other people say the flext front end might be due to the skinny steerer tube. Ef might be sponsored by vision, since they also use their wheelsets. I think most teams are just using what they’re paid to use. Their choice of components don’t really indicate which is better or worse. But the lab71 frameset is definitely more flexible for WT powers
@@DiabeticCycling haha, I have only ridden the Addict RC Pro and now Ultimate. Since I run Ultegra 12 spd with 50/34 and 11/34 gearing, we are practically twins. I'm just a little taller. You ARE ready, homie!
I have a same built except the wheelset, and sadly I do pair it with momo bar…. and cannot agree with you more, please keep making videos and share your feel! And I cannot decide to have a soloist or tarmac sl8 pro now…haha.
I would have taken up that Lab71 offer. I can't believe the Momo handlebar ended up being so flexy and for someone that looks as light as you 😮 After watching this, I'm kind of glad I don't have a Lab71 with a Momo handlebar. Also, TARMAC ALL DAY BABY 🥳
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First time here on the Channel for me and it was very a interesting review ! Thanks a lot
Thanks, Don! Hope to see you again soon on one of the new episodes!
As always I love the reviews! This is the bike I currently ride! I bought the full build & added the Systembar R-One. The bar felt thin in the tops compared to the Sworks Aerofly 2 I was on before, but I got used to it quickly. The drops have been great over rough road(I sprint from the hoods anyway). I haven't felt any top heaviness at all, maybe it's a size difference thing (possibly the bar too). I'm on a 54 with the 42/100 cockpit. The only real drawback I've found for me is the stock HollowGram R-SL 50 front wheel is rough in a strong crosswind & slows me down a bit sometimes. That's my 2¢ anyway. Great to hear someone else's opinion on what I've been experiencing since September!
Joe, great to hear from you and thank you especially for the time spent watching me ramble on for the eternity. I haven't ridden any Hollowgrams but I am not hearing positive things from many. Thanks again and take care!
@@DiabeticCycling the only time I question them is the high speed windy descent. It could even be my technique from 30+ years of mountain bikes not being ideal for the smooth road stuff, which is something I hadn't thought about before. Hmmmmm
Thorough review thank you & I'm still gett'n one! Will be following you from now on. Keep 'em coming. From a fellow Type 1 Tarmacker :)
Hi!! Hopefull, 6 will take good care of you! I thank you so much for spending the time with me watching this episode and dropping a comment. And especially someone also struggling with insulin to boot.... Although I need to declare that my diabetes is a result of my own poor life style in the past, type 2.... Be safe out there and hope to see you again here!
How do you find the evo frame ?
You are very good :) and very good reviews presenting information that matter
Thank you so much, Mohamad!
I really appreciate your reviews. Especially knowing that the reviews are honest as they can be (relative to other reviewers on TH-cam). I've ridden this new Supersix Evo for 2500 miles. My take is a little different from yours. I am coming from a rim brake 2018 Supersix Evo which is superlight (6.5 kg). I looked at the geometry and I knew that the bike would not be as reactive as the 2018 model . The longer wheelbase, longer trail measurements, and the new stack and reach measurements make the bike very, very stable and predictable. However, the tradeoff is a reduced feeling of reactivity from my 2018 model which was a climbing delight. That said, this is a much better all-rounder bike whereas my 2018 was a climbing specialist. To mirror your experience, this bike climbs extremely well, but its not exceptional at climbing like the 2018 rim brake version. However, this bike descends much better than the 2018 version and is definitely much more aero and holds the speed very well on the flats. I am using the Cannondale Hollowgram wheels that came with the bike and I find the bike extremely comfortable for all day rides. I don't find the seat post uncomfortable, I don't find that the MOMO bars are not stiff enough. I am running the bike tubeless with 28c tires (not sure if this makes a difference). While I love my 2018 rim brake Evo. I think If I had to keep one bike, it would be the new Supersix Evo. The geometry changes work well for me (I did work with a fitter to make sure the bike was tailored to me as best as possible). I started my cycling journey with a CAADX, moved to a CAAD10, then a Supersix Evo 2018 rim brake before moving to the current one. I've stuck with Cannondale for all my bikes through the years.
Thanks for your time watching and dropping this wisdom! I appreciate it a ton!
Like always, excellent video. Lab71 frame and Dura Ace are for deep pocket cyclists and for the pros. For the 99.9% of average cyclist...the EVO 2 is an excellent option. Ultegra Di2, 45 deep carbon wheels, carbon handlebar and bit more heavy for $5,500...boom!!
Thank you Chimy! I appreciate your time watching and dropping this wisdom!
Cannot confirm this review at all. My own Lab71 is also equipped with the r-one bar and I really love it. Stiffness is good enough for a 1200 Watt sprint but it is also damn good in ergonomics. I reworked some things after the workshop did a lot things not perfect as I would do it myself. Compared to my black inc Supersix evo it is a lot faster in the flat but not slower on hills. On the top I stacked 2 cm higher with a different handling feel at all. I get used to it within 20 km of usage. Comparing to the superstiff SystemSix it is a nearly as fast but drives like on a magic carpet. Btw. the pros of EF are also using the r-one bar, but not the bottle cages. I heard the SL8 is very uncomfortable from a friend. To be honest, the bike feels different on rides because your body is different everyday, the bike is, I swear, for 100% the same. 😂
Nah this is entirely incorrect. My lab71 is exactly how DC described. Sold it for an sl8, couldn't be happier.
@@DDai-qd8uk how could EF so successful with a crappy bike?
What is happening with specialized? Nothing is available and huge discounts.
Should it be the other way round, if cannondale would build crappy bikes?
Show me a discount on an sl8 and I'll buy them all.
My old lab71 had a split personality. Different every day and across different temperatures. Really just a crap bike, it's really evident when compared to my current sl8.
For a pro rider, it's less about the bike, more about the legs. Anyway, they don't ride lab71, they ride himod. Or maybe the procen air is why they've won a few 😂
@@DDai-qd8uk back to the facts ...
You remember DD reviewed a Highmod with systembar r-one. Maybe he missed to compress the headset with 4Nm. See the manual.
@@GTRapt0r how are you getting on with the delta steerer and bike in general, any issues or setup problems with the wedges? trying to get some feedback as i'm concidering getting the hi mod frameset
Another great review, thanks DC! As with other recent bike reviews, this would not be a bike that would be in the lineup that I would be considering for my next ride, however, I am always open to learning about different options, especially from someone that I trust. As you were discussing the phenomena where you could not make up your mind about the ride of the bike, one day thinking X and the next day thinking Y....what came to my mind was that sometimes a person and a bike will just 'mesh' together and everything just clicks. Your back-and-forth with this bike indicated to me that you and the this bike were just not a perfect fit....and that is OK....that does not mean that it is not a great bike, it just means that it is not the perfect bike for you.
Great review bro, man, all these high priced high tech bikes probably don’t compare to my Cervelo R3. Super light, super areo, super fast from start and ongoing. I just put size 28c pirelli tires on my bike and now lots more compliance too. This bike is the pre-Soloist and very affordable and still going since 2014. Bravo on all your reviews, love your explanations and honesty. Btw, the cannondale bike is too unpredictable and that would through me off getting that too heavy bike. Please compare the wheels and the Soloist to the specialized Sl8 and an Athos or Crux. Thank you
Great video as always, DC! Your videography gets better every time. I really like that you add the locations to the b-roll. Maybe especially since I’m more or less in the area. Looking forward to the wheel comparison video:-)😊
Always pleasure hearing from you each episode! The location tagging, I started with the last episode thinking doing so may relate to those who can identify the same roads shown. Great to hear you liked!
Lovely shots, but please get to the content before 3 mins in - I’d like this video a lot more if you shared info earlier, then did the BRoll sexy shots, and asked for likes and subs once you’d delivered some value. I reckon you’ll also find you get better retention, and thus your channel would be pushed more with successful vids. Non the less - keep it up and thanks for the useful review :)
You preferred the Soloist to both the Tarmac and the Supersix, hence it is the real winner here.
Nice review DC. I own the same bike color and size. Except it has Winspace Hyper D45 wheels with Prime carbon aero handlebars fully intergraded (16.3 lbs). I've put about 5K miles on my 2024 Supersix evo and so far I'm loving it. I did end up putting a Specialized Evo mirror saddle to help with my stiffness of the seat post.
Sounds like a great build, Luis!
your audio sucks. use a filter to filter down those 8khz and up frequencies...
Good evening you can only pick one every day rider i have a cannondale caad13 want to upgrade you taking cervelo soloist or super six evo ?
Soloist without thinking twice :)
@@DiabeticCycling sram force?
SOME of the early season Team bikes were hi-Mod units. This is true, not ALL of the EF bikes were. Videos are really high quality now, enjoyable.
I’m kind of glad I ended up buying my evo himod before this video dropped as I have had completely different experience 😅. I think your video would have swayed me away from the bike. But I might have liked the other option just as much (factor o2)
The momo handlebar works great for me. I can’t feel the flex at all. Granted, I’m 62kg and I’m not doing full out sprints. But I definitely do a lot of climbing. and I actually feel like the rear end has plenty of compliance. My favorite part of this bike is actually how stable it is. It’s confidence inspiring going downhill. I think this characteristic is really different for a race bike and I can totally see why people who races crit may want a more twitchy bike.
But most of all, like you said, all these bikes are great bikes and none of them will make us any faster.
I wanted a bike that I liked the looks of, and this checked all the boxes. (No weird features, no super wide/aero tubing or forks). Just a really nicely balanced bike.
I got my hi mod frameset with the momo bars brand new with 20% off. So definitely ask for deals!
Absolutely! Things I mentioned that I don't care for, just my opinion especially when certain topics can't be quantified or validated via agreed upon standards. Hopefully, you still enjoyed what I put out. Appreciate the time!
Absolutely enjoyed your opinion on these things. It’s good to hear other people’s perspectives that’s not coming from a normal review channel. They always only ever say good things about every bike. Just makes me realize, from a normal cyclist, we all look for different things from a bike
I now go directly to 5 min mark on your videos.👍
Hey DC I might have missed it but can you comment on how long the cranks are? And how crank length should be to leg length (inseam).
Hi Paul. Most of my bikes were/are fitted with 170mm although I have a crankset in the garage with 165mm to test out what the latest hoopla is all about.
Can you help me understand which one is better? The 2022 evo without a number and the 2024 evo 2? I know the difference is on the new one having a threaded BB and the different handlebar. But which one do you think is better? They are currently priced the same so hard for me to decide
Hi, Rommel. So weird, one of my close buddies riding together is also Rommel Reyes. I was like what? :) Anyhow, I'm afraid I'm not qualified to comment and answer your question because I don't have personal experience on a 2022 Evo. I have no idea how that bike rides, and therefore can't answer which is better or worse.... Sorry.
I have the same bike in size 54 with the same momo handlebar. I don’t find the handlebar appears to be flexi. My downside is the shitty headunit mount. It couldn’t hold my Garmin properly as it rattled around. I had to replace the plastic mount with a 3rd party unit.
Can confirm this, single bolt is the rotation point, makes no sense. Bought one from Raceware which is absolutely sleek.
Man, the best part about your videos is the intro music. I wish it was playing throughout the video so we wouldn't have to hear your voice. hahaha. Just joking!!!! I know you need comments to get more YT exposure, so they maybe (in)appropriate and/or meaningless but never negative. I am doing tax work, sipping my coffee and enjoying your video, Sir!
Good to hear from you again! In all honesty, I don't want to hear my own voice, either!!! I feel you! I do put in a ton of effort in the intro piece. Great to hear you enjoyed it. Thank you for dropping this as you mentioned. Always great to know there's someone else on the other side of the camera.
I own a 2023 hi-mod 2 size 56 fully stock and I have to say I am very surprised by your experience. Maybe it is the Momo bar or something related to the size of the frame, or even the wheels and tires you are riding but for me, the bike always feels the same on every ride and I've put over 6k km on it. It feels extremely fast, smooth, comfortable, planted to the ground and awesome at clinbing and descending. The stock hollowgram wheels, albeit a bit heavier than other wheelsets, feel lively under acceleration and hold speed extremely well. None of the other reviews I've seen have reported similar issues to what you experienced, so I am glad you mentioned at the beginning to take your findings with a grain of salt.
Thanks for the honest opinion. ❤
Thank you!
When's the comparison with the tarmac?
Hi Adam. That one is queued up to show up in a few weeks. Day job and life got in the way of my release schedule.
Awfully rude to attack PG at the beginning 🍪 😅
OMG did I? What did I say???? Boy I hope I didn't say anything stupid to piss the cookie monster off....
How much does your bike weigh? And it’s good to know my orca value for buck still was a great choice.
There is a shot in the video where I show the weight towards the end of "my build". I forget what it weighed....
Love the detail and the cinematography. The Momo handlebar is sexy but if you say its flexy then it's not worth it for me. Thanks!
So great to hear from you each episode! Thank you for recognizing and dropping such kind words. Super appreciated!!
🎉good work! lol at factor vs Cannondale comparison. They for sure are unnecessarily expensive
LOL thank you! SO SO SO expensive....
How can the bike feel different every time you ride? Are you sure it’s not your condition?
LOL like I mentioned.... it's an enigma of a bike. Let's hope at least I know enough how I feel day to day.😆
@@DiabeticCycling TBH i don't think it's that easy to separate how you feel on a given day vs. how the bike feels. I'm currently trying to evaluate my CAAD13 vs. my Aethos to see if one is expendable, but I'm having trouble largely due to this difficulty. On a good day, the CAAD13 feels great - on more than one occasion, I've thought to myself, "this is all the bike I need." But on a bad day, I start to question myself. If I have low energy, I think "it's nice to have the Aethos because it takes less effort to ride it." But does this really justify having two bikes that are so simiilar? I'm still not sure. The Aethos is sharper and stiffer, while the CAAD is more comfortable but still handles very well. I go back and forth between the two, and I'd prefer having a one bike solution, but I just can't make up my mind.
Hoping for a Scott Foil review in the future. Seems too few quality reviews out there so far…
I hope to get my hands on one myself!
The top end models of all bikes are cazy expensive. How would this review be different if you bought something more realistic like the much better value Ultegra version or even the 105 Di2 which can currently be bought for UKP3200 (USD4000)? I'm considering SuperSix EVO for the slightly more relaxed ride. I also like the way they have done the cockpit with integrated cabling combined with the flexibility of separate bar / stem (lower models). That will enable me to better dial in fit and even keep a couple of stem lenths for different types of riding. I understand it is possible to swap Conceal C1stem without having to re-do hydraulics if you use the semi-integrated option. Has anyone tried this?
Another great video!! Thanks for sharing with us. As the owner of a Soloist i am always interested in how these bikes stack up to that. Love my Soloist!! I know you are not a weight weenie and these are really not meant to be exactly the build you would buy at the LBS, i think it would still be really interesting to see the actual weight of the bike. This would be an interesting point of reference because how it rides for its weight compared to other lighter or heavy bikes can be both better or worse and bike weight is not the "be all" "end all" tell tale sign of speed.
Hi tube! The weight of the build is shown towards the end of the "my build" portion of the episode. I can't recall the exact weight (goes to show you how little I pay attention to that). I think it was above 16lbs, above 7.x kg "ride ready" everything attached.
Thankyou DC. Dont know how i missed that. Ill have to go back and look.
There is a slight buzz in the sound.
I did notice that!!!!! I''m sorry about that. I thought it was just my dumb headphones going bad on me....
awesome guide, im struggling to choose in among Trek Madone Gen 8, Cannondale SuperSix Evo and Canyon Ultimate.
if soloist better than evo himod then i go for giant Tcr pro 2025🎉
Hey Nomad! TCR such a great lineage, though I haven't ridden the new model, I have no reason to believe it wouldn't ride good. Thanks for your time!
Commenting because you're the best bike reviewer on youtube. And i follow all of them, keep up the good work!
keeping us hanging on the bike comparison to specialized and trek like a k drama.
I wonder your thoughts guys: would the DA wheels be suitable for an endurance bicycle (tubeless setup ) in terms Of comfort or too race-oriented? Thanks.
Going the opposite direction myself. Ditched my soloist and got a Lab71. Love it so much that I also got a regular Evo (non-HM) with 105di2 for horrible weather riding and travel.
Love everything about this bike. Although admittedly, I've loved every iteration of EVO. It's THE race bike for me.
On bars, I have no experience with momos. Even on my Lab71 I'm using a 110mm conceal stem and control tech aero bars that I love. I feel like I don't like any integrated bar offered on any brand of bike. They are just not the right width / stem length / reach numbers for me.
Tell me more about why you went this way? I have a Soloist but may go with a SSE. I have MAJOR toe overlap in 51 and the stack is very low for me.
is there a stiffness difference between hm and nonhm or just weight from your exp?:)
@@chriskalman4555 Toe overlap has never been top of my list of why I'd choose a bike but SSE did solve that issue by adjusting fork rake. I don't love that they change geometry to fix an issue that happens only when you're riding slow, perhaps commuting and not in a serious training or race situation, but good news is, SSE still rides amazing in size 51 and no toe overlap issue for me.
Supersix will be a whopping 20mm higher (51cm vs 51cm) and 9mm shorter (I know reach figure says Soloist is 4mm shorter but the seat tube on it is also 1.3degree slacker which means roughy 13mm more reach. 13-4 = 9mm)
SO. Supersix = no toe overlap, 20mm taller stack in the front, 9mm shorter reach.
@@osobazjebanana Nothing I can tell. Lab71 in black is significantly lighter than non-hm in white. (on top of the carbon weight difference, white paint weighs more and black lab71 is probably less weight than other lab71's)
But ridewise, I'm sure non-HM with same exact components would be unnoticeable.
Great review. How does it compare to a BMC Teammachine SLR01?
I'm in the market for the best feeling climbing bike. What are the noteable frames that you could recommend? Or is there one that you feel is just the best if that's all I'm looking for?
you could add timestamps in such a long format video, it would be much appreciated
As for handlebars, have you tried out the Coefficient Cycling RR bars? The production is outsourced to Black Inc but design and distribution through coefficient cycling. They have a flat top tube in specific angles to allow for more comfortable and ergonomic hand/arm positions.
would you prefer the supersix or the sl8? greetings from belgium
When you mention the wheelbase of a frame, I know you are the bike reviewer with professionalism
I was wondering why al the Cannondale sponsored teams (EF, TDT-unibet) rarely ride the momo bars. Shame, they look really good. Like the beste looking bars ever.
I have momo bar installed on my evo 1 and i absolutely love it. The vision bar it came with was so wide on top and tapered on the drop it didn’t work out for me
I definitely can't speak for any of them. The bar is dead sexy looking indeed. The flex in the drops, my ramen noodle from lunch were more stiff...
I’ve seen other people say the flext front end might be due to the skinny steerer tube.
Ef might be sponsored by vision, since they also use their wheelsets.
I think most teams are just using what they’re paid to use. Their choice of components don’t really indicate which is better or worse.
But the lab71 frameset is definitely more flexible for WT powers
@@n8Xhunt true but TDT does not have a sponsor for stems and handlebars. And mostly uses pro and Deda.
Because Vision is a sponsor for the parts. That’s why they ride Metron wheels and not Cannondale Hollowgram.
Very useful review and I certainly can appreciate the attitude towards yourself and your cycling journey!
Hello, how tall are you? Thanks
This is a very thorough and excellent review!
Why never owned a Trek 🤔?
still no Lab71
Thanks very much now I can buy my cannondale nuff respect 👊🏾
Thanks for your time watching!
I would love to see the Scott Addict RC among the ranks.
He ain't ready for that beauty 😀
Marcel, I thought we were practically homies!!!
@@DiabeticCycling haha, I have only ridden the Addict RC Pro and now Ultimate. Since I run Ultegra 12 spd with 50/34 and 11/34 gearing, we are practically twins. I'm just a little taller. You ARE ready, homie!
Anyone know what are those bottle cages?
I think (don't hold me to) they are Bontrager
I have a funny comment but i don't want to ruin the video for people. I will say I did not expect this to be your take. Ok, lub you, buh bye
Well I’ll buy it off you if you don’t want it 😅
I will be listing it for sale within next few weeks after I wrap up a video episode featuring it.
I have a same built except the wheelset, and sadly I do pair it with momo bar…. and cannot agree with you more, please keep making videos and share your feel! And I cannot decide to have a soloist or tarmac sl8 pro now…haha.
I would have taken up that Lab71 offer. I can't believe the Momo handlebar ended up being so flexy and for someone that looks as light as you 😮
After watching this, I'm kind of glad I don't have a Lab71 with a Momo handlebar.
Also, TARMAC ALL DAY BABY 🥳
The bar especially in the drops, my ramen noodle for lunch is stiffer...
@@DiabeticCycling That seems like a massive oversight from Cannondale. Are you able to show the flex on camera?