Filament Runout Sensor on TFT35 - Install Guide
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- This is the second video I did on installing the BTT Smart Filament Sensor and is focused on it being connected to the TFT35. The first video I did has it connected to an SKR Mini e3 v2.0. In this video, I cover everything you need to know to get the BTT SMS running with it connected to a TFT35. The video is broken into two sections. The first section being the physical install, and the second section covers the firmware changes.
If you have any questions on the content covered in this video, feel free to leave a comment below with them. I try to reply to all commented within 48 hours.
Referenced Links
Hardware
BTT Smart Filament Sensor on Amazon: geni.us/YumWlKm
SKR Mini E3 V2.0 on Amazon: geni.us/A9oe
SKR Mini E3 V2.0 + Touch Screen on Amazon: geni.us/tO4H
BLTOUCH on Amazon: geni.us/AD6M
Ender 3 Pro on Amazon: geni.us/vIAIx
Ender 3 V2 on Amazon: geni.us/ur8YHM
HATCHBOX Filament on Amazon: geni.us/BJx0Gdj
Videos
How to Compile Custom Firmware for SKR Mini: • How to Compile Custom ...
Ender 3 Filament Runout Sensor - Install Guide: • Ender 3 Filament Runou...
BIGTREETECH TFT35 Firmware Update - Complete Guide: • BIGTREETECH TFT35 Firm...
Objects
Filament Sensor Mount: www.thingiverse.com/thing:464...
Filament Sensor Mount for Direct Drive: www.thingiverse.com/thing:449...
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I hope you found this overview helpful! If you have any questions or would like other tips/tricks, just let me know in the comments.
Thank you for sharing this and it was a big help. Had I not seen your previous video I would not have known about the issues in attaching this to my SKR Mini board versus my TFT35. Thanks for all you do for the 3D Printing Community!!!
You're very welcome!
Thanks so much for the tip on Initializing EEPROM!! Would never have figured that out without you 😅
Hi. You’re Welcome!
Thank you so muchhhhh you helped me a lot.
You're Welcome!
i had to change 2 to 3 in the config as the smart feature would not even display, also it dont work when connecting to the main board, skr mini E3 v2.0 but following your video it worked great, thank you
Hi. Thanks for the feedback, it seems things are always changing :). If its connected to the main board, you would have to print from the sd reader on that for it to work.
I’m enjoying your videos. Your content and presentation works well for me. I’ve seen elsewhere that there were problems when the BTT Smart Sensor was connected directly to a TFTI35 display. Does the BTT Smart Sensor function properly when connecting either a SD card or USB thumb drive to the TFT35 and starting a print from either the Marlin Mode or LCD Mode? What firmware versions are you using? I have an Ender 3 Pro with a SKR Mini E3 V2.0 and TFT35 E3 V3.0.
Thanks, Drew.
Hi. Thanks for the feedback :). I had no issues with any of the tests I did when printing from the TFT35 ports, but I did have an issue with trying to print from the SD card on the SKR Mini. I am using Marlin 2.0.6.1 and TFT35_E3_V3.0.26.x (The September 2020 release).
Good news. I like USB drives and the big old SD cards anyway. I ordered a Smart Sensor this morning and printed the non direct drive mount you listed.
Thanks, Drew.
Future videos. I recommend you make a video on the installation and set up of a BTT Automatic Shutdown Relay V1.2. There still isn’t much help online for this install and optional settings. I had difficulty installing this 24 volt relay on my Ender 3 Pro with a BTT Mini SKR E3 V2.0 and BTT TFT35 E3 V3.0. My biggest problem connecting the relay to the SKR Mini E3 was the included relay cable from BTT wasn’t correct. This project was my first experience using VS Code and Planform IO but I managed to eventually get things working well.
I wasn’t happy with the relay’s quick shutdown before the hotend cooled and I couldn’t find any help online. I managed to configure the End Gcode After Print command in the TFT35 Feature Menu to execute a M85 S300 command. This command tells the relay to turn the power off 300 seconds after the print has ended. 300 seconds is probably overkill to let the hotend cool but you can change the length of time to your liking. I don’t think this feature is well known but it works great.
Another video opportunity is for the BTT 24 Volt Mini UPS V1.0. I wasn’t able to get this working to my satisfaction on my printer. When powering off with the manual switch it took over 45 seconds to drain the capacitors before the fan and display would shut off. I wasn’t able to change this and was worried about possible component damage so I removed the UPS. Again I couldn’t find any help online.
My next BTT project is to configure the ESP-01S Wifi Module. That will probably keep me busy for awhile. Octoprint and a Raspberry Pi would be fun but definitley overkill for me. I’ll save that project for later.
Hi. Thanks for the detailed feedback/recommendations, I appreciate it. I have a couple hardware videos that I will be doing next but I will take a look at both recommendations and see what I can do.
I have an issue it doesn't sugar at all when it's in smart mode at all otherwise correct I followed everything step by step I even updated the firmware on the TFT and the firmware in the actual board itself but it will trigger constantly if it's on on so I don't know what's going on there and I was wondering if you could help me figure that out and I realize it's Thanksgiving and all that so you can get back to me whenever you know not too worried about this during Thanksgiving time yeah so yeah thank you for your time and reading this and all your help that you've given me so far I really do appreciate it
Hi. Can you confirm that you have the sensor plugged into the TFT35 and can you email me a copy of your configuration.h and configuration_adv.h files? My email is admin@3dprintscape.com .
Hello Rob, Have you ever tried to use the creality Filament Runout Sensor with the SKR mini E3 V3 and TFT35?
Thank you so much for you videos! They have greatly helped me along.
Hi. I havent, but if its just a simple switch it should work without any issues.
@@3DPrintscape I messed around with it some more and for whatever reason pin PA15 would not allow the logic inversion no matter which way I set it in the config.ini for the TFT35. I think it might have something to do with the pin being pulled high by the NC switch circuit and it's LED leading to no state change being registered on PA15. I simply swapped the Ground and Signal wire in the JST connector on the runout sensor. Works a treat even though the LED no longer works.
@@dcaonoek Hi. Are you trying to connect it to the tft or the board? Also, which one do you typically print from. I know with the smart sensor it needs to be connected to where you print from. If you print from the tft and its connected to the board it wont work.
@@3DPrintscape it's all connected to and printing from the TFT35. It's an issue with the creality filament sensor having an LED on the NC side of the switch. The LED is using the Vout but in the process is sending the SIG line high permanently. I have it working now that I swapped the Ground and SIG lines but the LED won't work with this wiring. It's better that it does it's job because the screen now tells me the filament sensor has tripped.
@@dcaonoek Gotcha, Im glad you got it working though. The LED isnt very important in my opinion.
I miss where you start to change firmware settings is this for main board or for TFT screen where you changing firmware?
Hi.‘I have a video covering the firmware setup.
What do we do with M600 in the configuration.Adv.H tab? I am installing it to the TFT board, but plan on using the SD slot on the motherboard to do my prints. I did comment out M114 as your video stated. Just confused on M600.
Hi. The M600, or advanced pause feature, should be enabled in either setup.
So sad that i cannot configure with marlin 2.0.72 with my skr mini e3 v2 board ...already follow your instruction...but when printing keep unload and purge and reload when press printing ..
Hi. Sorry, you are running into issues but I don’t understand the issue you are having. Can you explain it a bit more?
Enjoyed your video. For me the sensor works in Marlin mode when connected directly to my SKR mini E3 board but not when connected to the TFT 35 regardless of whether M114 is uncommented or not. With the sensor connected to the TFT the printer goes through it's BL Touch bed leveling but instead of laying down the priming lines it goes into the out-of-filament routine that eventually ends up in the waiting for input/OK loop. I noticed I'm not the only one experiencing problems when connecting to the TFT 35. If there's a fix I'd love to hear it. Thanks
Hi. I remember this, or something similar, happening when I tried to print from the skr mini when the sensor is connected to the TFT35. Have you tried to print from the SD/USB port on the TFT?
@@3DPrintscape Thanks for getting back to me. The printer prints from an SD card but ignores the filament sensor so the printer keeps on printing even when filament has been pulled out of the extruder.
@@martinsmith7873 I would expect that if the printer is printing from the SD card on the board and the sensor is connected to the TFT35. You need to be printing from the same device that the sensor is connected to in order for it to work.
@@3DPrintscape I must not have been clear. The sensor is connected to the TFT and prints from the SD slot on the TFT continues to print even when filament is removed. It’s as if the sensor doesn’t exist.
@@martinsmith7873 Sorry i misunderstood what you were saying. Can you verify that you have the sensor enabled on the TFT35 and that its set to smart? After that, can you email me a copy of your configuration.h and configuration_adv.h files? My email is admin@3dprintscape.com .
Bonjour et merci pour toutes ces explications, malheureusement en ayant suivi exactement vos conseils, cela ne fonctionne pas pour moi lorsque je branche sur le tft35.
je n'ai aucune réaction du smart
Pouvez vous m'aider
merci par avance
Hi. I used google translate on this, so hopefully I understand the question right. It sounds like you are having issues getting the smart sensor to work with it connected to the TFT35. Can you confirm that you have the filament sensor set to smart on the TFT35 and what firmware are you using?
Hi Rob, thank you so much for your videos. They are very informative. I followed your instructions and installed everything correctly (I believe) . But my SFS could not detect anything. The printer was printing as it would if there was no sensor. While updating the config for the TFT35 I got bunch of "Invalid Keyword" message and I am wondering if that is what causing the problem. Please let me know your thoughts... and Thank you so much in advance!
Hi. Ive noticed a lot of issues wit the smart sensor based the 06 config version. If you have an old copy give that a try (if you dont, ping me on discord and i will send my copy over) but i think they broke something in the newer firmware. Im hoping they fix it soon though.
@@3DPrintscape Hi Thank you so much for the quick reply. I was testing many things and I was able to find the solution for it. In the "Configuration_adv.h" "LIN_ADVANCE" needs to be commented out in order to make it work. Once I changed and updated the firmware it worked. Everything else was same as before like you instructed on your video. Once again thank you!
@@safwanulferdous916 Im glad to hear its all working now :).
@@3DPrintscape Hey sorry for the late response... thank you so much!!! This sensor is a life saver!
@@safwanulferdous916 You're welcome
Hey so I have watched all of your firmware videos and that's how I originally got my printer going. It's been running great with bltouch, skr mini, tft35, etc. But now I got the BTT filament runout sensor and I wanted to change up my firmware to support it but now that I got a later firmware version and changed up the settings for the runout sensor, my BLtouch does not home correctly.
It will not trigger when the probe is pushed and would crash into the bed if I let it. I have no idea what I did different since it was working perfect before. Any Ideas? I did not touch the motherboard at all and I hooked the sensor up to the tft35.
I have rewatched all of your firmware related videos and I have compiled and recompiled firmware for days. Nothing seems to fix the bltouch.
I think I might have got it working... I wasn't putting the SD card into my motherboard slot. I was putting it in my tft35 like I always do. Guess that matters for firmware?
Hi. Yes, that would make a big difference. The mainboard will only look for firmware files from the sd slot on the board. If you were putting it in the tft, it wouldnt see it. Is everything working as expected now?
@@3DPrintscape Yep. Can't believe I spent so long working on it and that was all I had to do haha.
How add to marlin auto return print after failur power?
Hi. You need to make sure the POWER_LOSS_RECOVERY option is enabled in the firmware. This may help out marlinfw.org/docs/gcode/M413.html
How would I hook it up if I have multiple extruders and want multiple runout sensors?
Hi. Im not sure there is a supported way to do that with the smart sensor. My guess is that you would end up needing to create something custom. Unfortunately, i have done anything like that before, so i dont think i will be much help.
Does anyone have a link to the TFT35 download location? I see a bunch of download options on their github, i just dont want to download the wrong thing and brick my screen. Thanks!
Hi. You can get the firmware from here. github.com/bigtreetech/BIGTREETECH-TouchScreenFirmware
I have has a fine running ender 3 pro. I installed a BTT abl, firmware update no problem. Just installed marlin 2.1.2 with no problem. I made a special mount for a Smart Filament Sensor(SFS) to be mounted just before the extruder. I didn't like the SFS hanging out in space. And it aligns up with the intake of the extruder. When I plug it into the filament sensor 0 on mini e3 v3, and when I do the TFT 3.5 screen goes black. I did the vscode compiling for the SFS and it was successful. If I unplug the SFS form the mainboard, the screen will works. I saw in you video a edit on a ini file. I can watch again to get specifics, but do you think that would help me??
Hi. Are you connecting the sensor to the tft or the mainboard. There are pros/cons of each but you will want it connected to what your printing from.
@@3DPrintscape Trying to connect to the main board but every time I do my BTTTFG 3.5 screen goes blank
I use a micro SD card inserted into the mainboard, so I guess I print from mainboard
@@bruceyoung1343 Is the firmware up to date on both?
@@bruceyoung1343 Ok, you will want to have the sensor connected to the mainboard then.
So I went to compile the Firmware and got an error.
{
"resource": "/c:/Users/lhkei/OneDrive/Desktop/Marlin-2.0.x/Marlin/src/inc/SanityCheck.h",
"owner": "cpp",
"severity": 8,
"message": "#error \"ADVANCED_PAUSE_FEATURE requires a supported LCD controller (or EMERGENCY_PARSER).\"",
"startLineNumber": 975,
"startColumn": 6,
"endLineNumber": 975,
"endColumn": 6
}
Hi. What screen do you have? The error points to that being the issue.
I have a problem of having the filament sensor constantly going off after about 30min to 1hour. Tried to change the filament_runout_noise_threshold but nothing help. How can I get it to work properly. The SFS is connected to the tft35
Hi. I havent had this happen, for me it was either it was working or wasnt. My guess is something may be creating a lot of tension on the line or the wheel in the sensor is being blocked.
@@3DPrintscape i tweaked with the printing speed in the slicer, the number of false runout decreased but still get one while printing outside perimeter with 85% of printing speed. Printing at 80mm/s now, will tweak more to reduce the false.
@@HuyTranGJ Ok, i can see that impacting the sensor. Were you able to tweak it anymore?
What fan duct are you running?
Hi. I think its easier to just point you to the video than try to explain it. But here is the video, it covers everything you need to know about it. th-cam.com/video/SqhEmw7aTCM/w-d-xo.html
With the tft35 do you uncomment m114 or do you leave it commented out
Hi. I typically leave it commented out.
@@3DPrintscape thanks for the reply will flash it later
@@imc5727You're welcome.
Would this work with octoprint?
Hi. There is a plugin for it in octoprint but i haven't tried it out so i cant say for sure.
Hi Rob, Wondering if you were still monitoring this comment thread?
Hi. Ya i try to monitor all comments.
I followed your tutorial, and my BLTouch stops working when I connect the Smart Sensor to the TFT. Here is a thread I put on reddit asking for help: www.reddit.com/r/BIGTREETECH/comments/ke4w0i/help_new_smart_filament_sensor_causing_bltouch/
Hi. Can you email me a copy of your config files and provide more detail on the hardware you are using? My email is admin@3dprintscape.com.