I was in a state of dying, my mother (who is not just my mom but as an adult, we’re best friends) I could hear how sad she sounded but it was like a stranger you look at in pity but no real sense of pain and hurt you feel for a loved one) I was just completely comfortable. I felt just perfect. No pain, no worries and then BOOM, my heart started beating and I HURT!! Then I was a little sad that I had been revived, it’s ok though…… I definitely have no fear of death. I absolutely know where I’m going and I totally understand now that no family member is looking down to check on me, they are HAPPY and already with our true family, I’ll just stick around, Thanking my Lord and Savior for everything He allows us to do. Then I’ll get to go to my family too! Happy Resurrection Day 🙏🏻♥️
Great video! Also, the fact that the few precedents we have in scripture, in both the old and the new testament, give examples of people going directly to heaven, such as Enoch, Elijah, Paul, and John, also refute the idea of purgatory. In none of these examples did they have to purge their sins before being able to be “clean“ enough to advance to heaven. Every one of them went directly into the presence of God. And we don’t have a single example of a spiritual intermediary realm in scripture that the person has to stop at first, to purge their sins, because Hebrews 1:3 states that Jesus purified, or purged in the Latin, our sins on the cross. That’s what makes us clean. And that’s what made Enoch, Elijah, Paul, and John clean. Even before the cross, like Abraham, Enoch and Elijah were credited righteousness.
They were physically resurrected. Beyond that, we don't know what happened to them. I would like to know. The principle is that we're accountable to defend the record Scripture gives us, not more.
That’s something else alright! This year reading that is the first time I picked up on that sadly. But what a thing it is!! I’d love to learn more on it.
Certainly would have had me freaking out! I also wonder what happened after that. So many unanswered questions about so many things in Scripture. Ah well, one day we will know. I really look forward to it.
I was dying in back of ambulance ,not from drugs ... and i stopped breathing then i felt his hand on my chest heard words yo i are ok and life came back and sicknesses was gone ambulance guys were no where near me at all thats what brouhaha me to christ and im so thankful i did not see any heaven i was blind and dead cause i didn't believe now i read and listen. Every day
I have found that arguing with someone who claims to have had a "experience" is futile. If the experience cannot be verified by Scripture, I set it aside and my response is a simple, "Okay . . . and . . ." I can't prove they didn't, and they can't prove they did. It's futile.
John Burke wrote a couple of books about NDEs. Very interesting and yes Lazarus had an NDE! There have been 1000s of validated experiences but also 1000s of frauds. It’s not integral to Christianity by any means but it’s an interesting topic. If you’re basing your beliefs on this you got trouble. However, answering a non-believer’s questions about them should be important to all of us.
John 3:13 no man hath ascended except the one who descended. In the parable of the rich man and Lazerus , Abraham says that even if someone comes back from the dead they will not believe. That the Law and the prophets are sufficient
God is Love and any experience that you have from a tragedy and the result is peace and love that is God. Besides, the majority of real true life after death experiences is a will to know the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ, usually for the first time in their life. Its a mystery to unbelievers.
Good observation! It's very interesting that the Bible presents Jesus as the exalted Savior, whereas these NDEs seem to downplay the full reality of Jesus. That's typically how false religions work.
@@MrMathjordan In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. If you understood these verses, you wouldn't have made this comment.
Do you not understand the Bible was put together by men and much of it was left out? But John talks about seeing the father on the throne in heaven in revelations. If that wasnt a near death experience, I don’t know what was.
The biggest red flag to me is the utter lack of reverence for God. They talk about Jesus and interacting with Him like He's their best mate. But we can see from the OT that people are overcome and terrified by the sheer glory of God. In our spiritual form perhaps that won't be the case, but to act without reverence and awe upon meeting Jesus and seeing the glory of God strikes me as unbiblical.
@@jodyel me too. I've seen many pay lip service and they say some great things and many truths but there are still some major red flags. It's like a case of 99 truths to sell 1 lie but that 1 lie is sending people to hell.
Listen to Randy Kay’s experience and the experiences of many that he interviews and then come back here and tell me what you heard you think doesn’t give God and Christ the glory.
@@stevepearson4522 I listened to the beginning but then fell asleep, not because it was boring, I was just tired. But from what I saw you're right, he certainly does show far more respect and awe for Jesus than the others I've seen. I woke up before the end and heard the last part where he talked about returning and the butterfly on his shoulder and then the discussion on why God gave him this experience and after he closed in prayer. He said it happened so that people could know Jesus loves them and that His grace is sufficient for us. Given that the Bible already plainly tells us this, I don't see why he needs to bring this message. Bear in mind John 3:13 says: "No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven." Also he only talked about the lost needing to know God's love and that's what he prayed for. But it is the Gospel that saves (unlike inviting Jesus into your heart which isn't even biblical) but he made no mention of sin nor repentance nor faith or believing in Jesus. We need to know why we need saving (our sins) and what we're being saved from (judgement and punishment for said sin) but by putting our faith in Jesus we can be saved from that. If Randy was given this experience to bring a message to the world, it strikes me as odd that he wouldn't use an hour long interview on his experience to present the Gospel, surely a missed opportunity - unless somehow he managed to present it during his testimony of being in heaven in the part where I fell asleep, though that seems unlikely.
The boy himself, Alex Malarkey (ironic), posted a public statement recanting everything in his book, "The Boy Who Came Back from Heaven". He said he made it all up for attention. Sad situation, actually. The father still republished under the title, "The Boy". Parents divorced afterward. Bookstores pulled books from shelves.
Saw this comment from a NON-CHRISTIAN ... "Their OWN books (The Bible) and beliefs say you cannot go to heaven and come back. But yet the followers flocked to it like it was gospel. Mind boggling."
I read an excerpt from the book where the kid said that he saw his dead grandfather and his "Big Banana nose"so we are to believe his grandfather was in paradise as an old man ? The kid was obviously coached by his parents for a payday ! "BE NOT DECEIVED GOD IS NOT MOCKED !
Great discussion. One thing I struggle with and maybe the answer is simple: OT saints being in the presence of the Lord without the full propitiation of sin, I.E. Christ had not yet paid the penalty for sinful man. One thought is that all OT saints / believers were held in Abraham's bosom util the cross. This idea works but maybe not with all saints. Enoch and Elijah were both "raptured' - (caught-up) and were immediately in the presence of the lord, or were they possibly waiting in sheol? . Is it possible that somehow the OT saints were covered by (from a human perspective) the yet future work of Christ? To a certain degree, we know that the OT saints were aware of Jesus sacrifice before it happened: John 8:56 “Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.”... I just do not see that God the Father would be able to have direct contact with sinful man prior to the work of Christ on the cross.
9:05. “Some people take speculation too far.” Ironically John, this is how I feel about people who, like yourself, ASSUME that Paul was necessarily referring toto HIMSELF who went to Heaven, when what he literally said was “I know a guy” COULD he have been referring to himself? Sure, but based on the text, WE DON’T KNOW. (sorry for all the caps lol)
Randy Kay dies and goes to Heaven and learns that as Paul speaks in a third person he is referencing himself. He just didn't know how to share it with other believers and non believers. The premise is Randy also references himself as a third person to show his interpretation as well.
@@laurensmith1259 I get that that is the assessment being made by all of these people, but again, we can't KNOW for SURE that that's what Paul is saying, based on his words.
So not true!!!! There are atheists who have come to know the Lord Jesus because of a near death experience. Have you been to heaven? Do you speak for the Sovereign Lord? In my heart and soul, I believe the Lord Jesus will do what it takes to save his children!!!!
They have found that when someone experience some level of brain death, brain itself was designed (by God) to create images and experiences to maintain brain activity. That would be the explanation on what people experience during a near death episode. There’s not such a thing of being dead and come back to life. If you die, you die. If it seems you die and come back, That’s because you didn’t die at all.
Luke chapter 16 verse's 19-31 swing's both ways and is pretty clear on the issue... don't you think? Maybe try reading it from the King James version just to get a meatier bite of it there might be words used that can help you understand it deeper. if the rich man was told they have Moses and the prophets and if someone were to come from the dead they wouldn't believe and if you notice that's a true statement because Jesus came back, people seen him die and the tomb was found empty and you fast forward to today, how many are not believing in someone who came back from the dead or the people who personally walked with and witnessed with their own eyes water turned to wine, blind people legitimately blind can't see squat have their sight restored as if it had never happened before, seen leprous people shuck away the leprosy and be instantly healed immediately after an interaction with Jesus, seen Jesus tell a man who hasn't walked in ages to get up take up your mat and he did! ...too go on to not believe! so what makes any of these people with these stories more saved or more special than others to have that done to them so they can come back and testify that heaven or hell is real?... when JESUS DID ALREADY THROUGH IS WALK HERE ON EARTH!!...do you see the problem with saying I've been to heaven or hell and I get to tell you that experience and attest that heaven or hell is real? It's side stepping Jesus and the apostles in my opinion! Read your Bible folks because the famine of the end times will NOT be for bread or water it will be for HEARING GODS WORD!
I’ve watched many many NDE’s and I believe that many of them actually have experienced and seen what they say they saw. Example, this video called “ I’ve seen Jesus” car crash kills man, but son goes to Heaven, Returns, and shares. Short video.
So everyone is lying? Doubt it…..maybe some….I know non Christians who flat lined and saw their body on the bed in the hospital.He died….plain and simple. He saw himself and heard the doctors and nurses speak. So you are saying forget his “experience” it didn’t really happen? How stupid.
Jonah seems to have died and was brought back to life. Ch 2:6. However, it's not the normative but a shadow of Christ. Experiences can deceive . Happy Easter !
So much mystery in Scripture it is not even funny. We will never know everything this side of eternity, and I wonder if we will know it all then. Mind boggling to say the least.
“4 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already.”
Bill with respect, I agree with you on NDEs but I watch this channel to hear your unique perspective, not to listen to John MacArthur (who I respect). I'd prefer to hear you discussing an issue than just playing a MacArthur video with commentary. Once in a while is fine but this is the second one in the last month or so. It might be the second in a row. I want to hear your opinions and ideas, not just your recycling someone else's. Not trying to be harsh, trying to provide constructive feedback.
Macarthur is right on this one..plus Howard Pittman had a testimony..he did not go into the Gates of Heaven but did see the gate...just my opinion anyway
90% accurate. Sorry- not enough for me Dr Bill. You need to check in with the HS more often. With all due respect, you really don't have it nailed quite yet.
No one can enter or see heaven in their corruptible, decaying earthly body or sinful, unredeemed spirit and live physically. Moses had a small glimpse of God's afterglow on Mt Sinai and looked 100 years older afterwards.
Mark 12:25 “For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.”spiritual beings not human beings !
I love John MacArthur but I think his particular view on this one topic is uninformed and outdated. That clip is at least 20 years old. Since then there have been huge christian studies on Near Death experiences. 1 in 10 people have had an NDE's in the world (My own grandmother had one and went to Hell. She told me about it, and I got my pastor in who led her to the Lord.) My husband did a short bible study and produced a few examples (one example) Steven's death in Acts who recounted his near death experience just before he died. Modern Nde's have produced so much evidence of people experiencing the same thing, the scientific world are now looking at the amount of evidence being enough to declare it as fact. Christians can no longer dismiss it like MacArthur did and we need to address what is going in here. John Burke, a Christian pastor and author of Imagine Heaven, has interviewed now thousands of NDEs, and it seems Jesus is beginning to reveal Heaven and none of it contradicts the bible. It's super exciting. Through this research, I am so excited about Heaven now, like never before. Paul said it wasn't helpful to elaborate on because people weren't coming back from the dead like they are now to prove it.
@@DrBillRoach check your understanding of the resurrection, and that of the OT saints. The Scriptures do not teach that the saints went directly into the LORD's presence at death, but that the OT saints looked forward to the coming of Christ, at death they went into "Abraham's bosom", the place of departed souls, until Christ's arrival, death, burial, and resurrection where they received their new, immortal robes. At that time they were they brought into His presence. The resurrection is complete, and ongoing until the consummation. "It Is Finished!" Luke 16, Matthew 27
"John MacArthur: The Truth About Death and Near Death Experiences (NDEs)". Who the giddy aunt cares. No one needs to even have the conversation as to whether or not they are authentic. There is no qualifying instruction to receive anything for one who has had a NDEs, so it would be an exercise in futility. It is really easy. The point of consideration is this, does what they teach or bring lead to sanctification in and the word and the Spirit. On this account, I have yet to witness a single soul (MacArthur himself also) sanctified in what you or MacArthur teach.
Pastor John you haven’t even heard the story and youre already calling a little four-year-old boy a liar. Why are you so quick to judge others without hearing all the facts? I suppose you can’t stand it that all these other people have been taken to heaven, and got to see Jesus before they actually died, but you are still here. That’s just pride, ignorance, or jealousy, or maybe all three.
Totally agree with you. Does scripture not say to have the faith of a child. Sometimes children have more wisdom than adults. What would a 4 year old have to gain by fabricating this story
Not sure which book this lady is referring to, but if it is the best-selling popular one ... the boy later recanted when he was older, admitting he made it all up for attention. His father still kept promoting the book for financial gain. :/
@@weaverdreams - The boy himself, Alex Malarkey (ironic), posted a public statement recanting everything in his book, "The Boy Who Came Back from Heaven". He said he made it all up for attention. Sad situation, actually. The father republished under the title, "The Boy". Parents divorced afterward. Bookstores pulled books from shelves.
So everyone is lying? Doubt it…..maybe some….I know non Christians who flat lined and saw their body on the bed in the hospital.He died….plain and simple. He saw himself and heard the doctors and nurses speak. So you are saying forget his “experience” it didn’t really happen? How stupid.
Experience isn’t a test for truth. Unless I am convicted by Scripture and plain reason-I do not accept the authority of popes and councils, for they have contradicted each other-my conscience is captive to the Word of God, I cannot and I will not recant anything, for to go against conscience is neither right nor safe.
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I was in a state of dying, my mother (who is not just my mom but as an adult, we’re best friends) I could hear how sad she sounded but it was like a stranger you look at in pity but no real sense of pain and hurt you feel for a loved one)
I was just completely comfortable. I felt just perfect. No pain, no worries and then BOOM, my heart started beating and I HURT!!
Then I was a little sad that I had been revived, it’s ok though…… I definitely have no fear of death. I absolutely know where I’m going and I totally understand now that no family member is looking down to check on me, they are HAPPY and already with our true family, I’ll just stick around, Thanking my Lord and Savior for everything He allows us to do. Then I’ll get to go to my family too!
Happy Resurrection Day 🙏🏻♥️
Great video! Also, the fact that the few precedents we have in scripture, in both the old and the new testament, give examples of people going directly to heaven, such as Enoch, Elijah, Paul, and John, also refute the idea of purgatory. In none of these examples did they have to purge their sins before being able to be “clean“ enough to advance to heaven. Every one of them went directly into the presence of God. And we don’t have a single example of a spiritual intermediary realm in scripture that the person has to stop at first, to purge their sins, because Hebrews 1:3 states that Jesus purified, or purged in the Latin, our sins on the cross. That’s what makes us clean. And that’s what made Enoch, Elijah, Paul, and John clean. Even before the cross, like Abraham, Enoch and Elijah were credited righteousness.
Heaven is described in the bible. No need for anyone's false description of heaven.
How about the people who came out of the grave after the resurrection? That must have been quite the talk of the town!
They were physically resurrected. Beyond that, we don't know what happened to them. I would like to know.
The principle is that we're accountable to defend the record Scripture gives us, not more.
That’s something else alright! This year reading that is the first time I picked up on that sadly. But what a thing it is!! I’d love to learn more on it.
Certainly would have had me freaking out! I also wonder what happened after that. So many unanswered questions about so many things in Scripture. Ah well, one day we will know. I really look forward to it.
I was dying in back of ambulance ,not from drugs ... and i stopped breathing then i felt his hand on my chest heard words yo i are ok and life came back and sicknesses was gone ambulance guys were no where near me at all thats what brouhaha me to christ and im so thankful i did not see any heaven i was blind and dead cause i didn't believe now i read and listen. Every day
I have found that arguing with someone who claims to have had a "experience" is futile. If the experience cannot be verified by Scripture, I set it aside and my response is a simple, "Okay . . . and . . ." I can't prove they didn't, and they can't prove they did. It's futile.
Agreed
I agree.
John Burke wrote a couple of books about NDEs. Very interesting and yes Lazarus had an NDE! There have been 1000s of validated experiences but also 1000s of frauds. It’s not integral to Christianity by any means but it’s an interesting topic.
If you’re basing your beliefs on this you got trouble.
However, answering a non-believer’s questions about them should be important to all of us.
John 3:13 no man hath ascended except the one who descended.
In the parable of the rich man and Lazerus , Abraham says that even if someone comes back from the dead they will not believe. That the Law and the prophets are sufficient
God is Love and any experience that you have from a tragedy and the result is peace and love that is God. Besides, the majority of real true life after death experiences is a will to know the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ, usually for the first time in their life. Its a mystery to unbelievers.
One thing I have noticed is that Jesus is usually just a normal "person" and that they are reminded what a good person they are.
Good observation!
It's very interesting that the Bible presents Jesus as the exalted Savior, whereas these NDEs seem to downplay the full reality of Jesus. That's typically how false religions work.
He's the Son of the Most High. He is Christ, not a normal person.
SCRIPTURE ALONE,CHRIST ALONE,FAITH ALONE,GRACE ALONE,TO THE GLORY OF GOD ALONE
Can’t be scripture alone and Jesus alone. Pick one . The Bible is not Jesus.
@@MrMathjordan clearly you don’t understand
@@MrMathjordan In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. If you understood these verses, you wouldn't have made this comment.
Do you not understand the Bible was put together by men and much of it was left out? But John talks about seeing the father on the throne in heaven in revelations. If that wasnt a near death experience, I don’t know what was.
@@weaverdreams you have no idea what you are talking about,you should be very careful about calling GOD a liar,RRPENT
The biggest red flag to me is the utter lack of reverence for God. They talk about Jesus and interacting with Him like He's their best mate. But we can see from the OT that people are overcome and terrified by the sheer glory of God. In our spiritual form perhaps that won't be the case, but to act without reverence and awe upon meeting Jesus and seeing the glory of God strikes me as unbiblical.
Indeed. It terrifies me and I'm a believer. I did see one the other day though where she gave all the glory to God and Christ.
@@jodyel me too. I've seen many pay lip service and they say some great things and many truths but there are still some major red flags. It's like a case of 99 truths to sell 1 lie but that 1 lie is sending people to hell.
Listen to Randy Kay’s experience and the experiences of many that he interviews and then come back here and tell me what you heard you think doesn’t give God and Christ the glory.
@@stevepearson4522 I listened to the beginning but then fell asleep, not because it was boring, I was just tired. But from what I saw you're right, he certainly does show far more respect and awe for Jesus than the others I've seen. I woke up before the end and heard the last part where he talked about returning and the butterfly on his shoulder and then the discussion on why God gave him this experience and after he closed in prayer. He said it happened so that people could know Jesus loves them and that His grace is sufficient for us. Given that the Bible already plainly tells us this, I don't see why he needs to bring this message. Bear in mind John 3:13 says: "No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven." Also he only talked about the lost needing to know God's love and that's what he prayed for. But it is the Gospel that saves (unlike inviting Jesus into your heart which isn't even biblical) but he made no mention of sin nor repentance nor faith or believing in Jesus. We need to know why we need saving (our sins) and what we're being saved from (judgement and punishment for said sin) but by putting our faith in Jesus we can be saved from that. If Randy was given this experience to bring a message to the world, it strikes me as odd that he wouldn't use an hour long interview on his experience to present the Gospel, surely a missed opportunity - unless somehow he managed to present it during his testimony of being in heaven in the part where I fell asleep, though that seems unlikely.
The boy himself, Alex Malarkey (ironic), posted a public statement recanting everything in his book, "The Boy Who Came Back from Heaven". He said he made it all up for attention. Sad situation, actually. The father still republished under the title, "The Boy". Parents divorced afterward. Bookstores pulled books from shelves.
Saw this comment from a NON-CHRISTIAN ... "Their OWN books (The Bible) and beliefs say you cannot go to heaven and come back. But yet the followers flocked to it like it was gospel. Mind boggling."
NT scholar Gary Habermas is working on this very topic.
Comment on the transfiguration visible presence of Moses and Elijah appear with Jesus.
What are the odds these people simply experience a dose of the bodies DMT in these moments?
I read an excerpt from the book where the kid said that he saw his dead grandfather and his
"Big Banana nose"so we are to believe his grandfather was in paradise as an old man ?
The kid was obviously coached by his parents for a payday !
"BE NOT DECEIVED GOD IS NOT MOCKED !
Great discussion. One thing I struggle with and maybe the answer is simple: OT saints being in the presence of the Lord without the full propitiation of sin, I.E. Christ had not yet paid the penalty for sinful man. One thought is that all OT saints / believers were held in Abraham's bosom util the cross. This idea works but maybe not with all saints. Enoch and Elijah were both "raptured' - (caught-up) and were immediately in the presence of the lord, or were they possibly waiting in sheol? . Is it possible that somehow the OT saints were covered by (from a human perspective) the yet future work of Christ? To a certain degree, we know that the OT saints were aware of Jesus sacrifice before it happened: John 8:56 “Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.”... I just do not see that God the Father would be able to have direct contact with sinful man prior to the work of Christ on the cross.
Good points!
9:05. “Some people take speculation too far.”
Ironically John, this is how I feel about people who, like yourself, ASSUME that Paul was necessarily referring toto HIMSELF who went to Heaven, when what he literally said was “I know a guy”
COULD he have been referring to himself? Sure, but based on the text, WE DON’T KNOW.
(sorry for all the caps lol)
Randy Kay dies and goes to Heaven and learns that as Paul speaks in a third person he is referencing himself. He just didn't know how to share it with other believers and non believers. The premise is Randy also references himself as a third person to show his interpretation as well.
@@laurensmith1259 I get that that is the assessment being made by all of these people, but again, we can't KNOW for SURE that that's what Paul is saying, based on his words.
Thanks 4 the video i was ust talking about this subject with my Christian friends
So not true!!!! There are atheists who have come to know the Lord Jesus because of a near death experience. Have you been to heaven? Do you speak for the Sovereign Lord? In my heart and soul, I believe the Lord Jesus will do what it takes to save his children!!!!
They have found that when someone experience some level of brain death, brain itself was designed (by God) to create images and experiences to maintain brain activity. That would be the explanation on what people experience during a near death episode. There’s not such a thing of being dead and come back to life. If you die, you die. If it seems you die and come back, That’s because you didn’t die at all.
The first part was on point, but I think the exegesis on the Intermediate State was mistaken.
Luke chapter 16 verse's 19-31 swing's both ways and is pretty clear on the issue... don't you think? Maybe try reading it from the King James version just to get a meatier bite of it there might be words used that can help you understand it deeper. if the rich man was told they have Moses and the prophets and if someone were to come from the dead they wouldn't believe and if you notice that's a true statement because Jesus came back, people seen him die and the tomb was found empty and you fast forward to today, how many are not believing in someone who came back from the dead or the people who personally walked with and witnessed with their own eyes water turned to wine, blind people legitimately blind can't see squat have their sight restored as if it had never happened before, seen leprous people shuck away the leprosy and be instantly healed immediately after an interaction with Jesus, seen Jesus tell a man who hasn't walked in ages to get up take up your mat and he did! ...too go on to not believe! so what makes any of these people with these stories more saved or more special than others to have that done to them so they can come back and testify that heaven or hell is real?... when JESUS DID ALREADY THROUGH IS WALK HERE ON EARTH!!...do you see the problem with saying I've been to heaven or hell and I get to tell you that experience and attest that heaven or hell is real? It's side stepping Jesus and the apostles in my opinion! Read your Bible folks because the famine of the end times will NOT be for bread or water it will be for HEARING GODS WORD!
I’ve watched many many NDE’s and I believe that many of them actually have experienced and seen what they say they saw.
Example, this video called “ I’ve seen Jesus” car crash kills man, but son goes to Heaven, Returns, and shares. Short video.
So everyone is lying? Doubt it…..maybe some….I know non Christians who flat lined and saw their body on the bed in the hospital.He died….plain and simple. He saw himself and heard the doctors and nurses speak.
So you are saying forget his “experience” it didn’t really happen? How stupid.
There's no such things as that.
if you die your not coming back anymore
Jonah seems to have died and was brought back to life. Ch 2:6. However, it's not the normative but a shadow of Christ. Experiences can deceive . Happy Easter !
I have an extremely high view of Scripture, but the Regulative Principle is a construct of man, not God. Humility leaves some room for mystery.
So much mystery in Scripture it is not even funny. We will never know everything this side of eternity, and I wonder if we will know it all then. Mind boggling to say the least.
no one went to heaven and hell then comeback..
that is a big lie ..and baloney..😮
One did... Christ but maybe in not that exact order.
“4 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already.”
Bill with respect, I agree with you on NDEs but I watch this channel to hear your unique perspective, not to listen to John MacArthur (who I respect). I'd prefer to hear you discussing an issue than just playing a MacArthur video with commentary. Once in a while is fine but this is the second one in the last month or so. It might be the second in a row. I want to hear your opinions and ideas, not just your recycling someone else's. Not trying to be harsh, trying to provide constructive feedback.
Listen to the whole video. I go way beyond MacArthur. Like 35 minutes of myself beyond him.
AMEN!
Macarthur is right on this one..plus Howard Pittman had a testimony..he did not go into the Gates of Heaven but did see the gate...just my opinion anyway
90% accurate. Sorry- not enough for me Dr Bill. You need to check in with the HS more often. With all due respect, you really don't have it nailed quite yet.
John Mc is a good guy, just dosen't believe in dreams or direct revelation ... In the Endtime
Hello sir. Are you referencing Joel 2:28? Wasn't this prophecy fulfilled in Acts 2 during Pentecost?
Personally I don't believe them. No one gets to visit Heaven or hell and leave . I believe that demons can place ideas in people's minds.
No one can enter or see heaven in their corruptible, decaying earthly body or sinful, unredeemed spirit and live physically. Moses had a small glimpse of God's afterglow on Mt Sinai and looked 100 years older afterwards.
....tipping my hand...
Mark 12:25
“For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.”spiritual beings not human beings !
I love John MacArthur but I think his particular view on this one topic is uninformed and outdated. That clip is at least 20 years old. Since then there have been huge christian studies on Near Death experiences. 1 in 10 people have had an NDE's in the world (My own grandmother had one and went to Hell. She told me about it, and I got my pastor in who led her to the Lord.) My husband did a short bible study and produced a few examples (one example) Steven's death in Acts who recounted his near death experience just before he died. Modern Nde's have produced so much evidence of people experiencing the same thing, the scientific world are now looking at the amount of evidence being enough to declare it as fact. Christians can no longer dismiss it like MacArthur did and we need to address what is going in here. John Burke, a Christian pastor and author of Imagine Heaven, has interviewed now thousands of NDEs, and it seems Jesus is beginning to reveal Heaven and none of it contradicts the bible. It's super exciting. Through this research, I am so excited about Heaven now, like never before. Paul said it wasn't helpful to elaborate on because people weren't coming back from the dead like they are now to prove it.
You who speak of contradicting Scriptures, are doing the same!?
How did I do that?
@@DrBillRoach check your understanding of the resurrection, and that of the OT saints. The Scriptures do not teach that the saints went directly into the LORD's presence at death, but that the OT saints looked forward to the coming of Christ, at death they went into "Abraham's bosom", the place of departed souls, until Christ's arrival, death, burial, and resurrection where they received their new, immortal robes. At that time they were they brought into His presence. The resurrection is complete, and ongoing until the consummation. "It Is Finished!"
Luke 16, Matthew 27
I have two examples of a type of those who didn’t die. It was not meant to be the full normative pattern. In fact, both types prove my point.
"John MacArthur: The Truth About Death and Near Death Experiences (NDEs)". Who the giddy aunt cares. No one needs to even have the conversation as to whether or not they are authentic. There is no qualifying instruction to receive anything for one who has had a NDEs, so it would be an exercise in futility. It is really easy. The point of consideration is this, does what they teach or bring lead to sanctification in and the word and the Spirit. On this account, I have yet to witness a single soul (MacArthur himself also) sanctified in what you or MacArthur teach.
too much going on....focus on the said topic....
Pastor John you haven’t even heard the story and youre already calling a little four-year-old boy a liar. Why are you so quick to judge others without hearing all the facts?
I suppose you can’t stand it that all these other people have been taken to heaven, and got to see Jesus before they actually died, but you are still here.
That’s just pride, ignorance, or jealousy, or maybe all three.
Totally agree with you. Does scripture not say to have the faith of a child. Sometimes children have more wisdom than adults. What would a 4 year old have to gain by fabricating this story
Not sure which book this lady is referring to, but if it is the best-selling popular one ... the boy later recanted when he was older, admitting he made it all up for attention. His father still kept promoting the book for financial gain. :/
@@whosoever316 Hearsay unless you state facts & proof
@@weaverdreams - The boy himself, Alex Malarkey (ironic), posted a public statement recanting everything in his book, "The Boy Who Came Back from Heaven". He said he made it all up for attention. Sad situation, actually. The father republished under the title, "The Boy". Parents divorced afterward. Bookstores pulled books from shelves.
Easy to find the boy's public recant statement, if you google it.
Don't listen to Calvinists like Macarthur... TULIP is another gospel.
As supposed to Universalist, Preterist, or Amillenialist😂😂
So everyone is lying? Doubt it…..maybe some….I know non Christians who flat lined and saw their body on the bed in the hospital.He died….plain and simple. He saw himself and heard the doctors and nurses speak.
So you are saying forget his “experience” it didn’t really happen? How stupid.
Experience isn’t a test for truth.
Unless I am convicted by Scripture and plain reason-I do not accept the authority of popes and councils, for they have contradicted each other-my conscience is captive to the Word of God, I cannot and I will not recant anything, for to go against conscience is neither right nor safe.