John Lennox: The TRUTH about AI, Consciousness, and God (Must-See Insights!)
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- Today John Lennox celebrates his 80th birthday! To mark this occasion, we are releasing a special Practical Wisdom episode on the fascinating world of Artificial Intelligence (AI).
In this Practical Wisdom special, renowned apologist and Oxford mathematician John Lennox reveals the truth about Artificial Intelligence (AI), consciousness, and our understanding of God.
What is the truth about AI and its implications on our understanding of consciousness and the divine? Join us for this thought-provoking conversation!
Discover the latest advancements in AI and how they intersect with our beliefs and perceptions of the world. In this dialogue with Samuel Marusca, John Lennox sheds light on the ethical, philosophical, and existential questions arising from this technological revolution and explores new perspectives on AI's role in our lives, the nature of consciousness, and the profound connection to faith and God.
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SUMMARY:
🤔 Artificial intelligence is divided into narrow AI and general AI, with the latter being a simulation of human intelligence but not conscious. 00:00
🤔 The concept of consciousness remains a mystery, with no one understanding what it truly is. 07:22
🧠 The language used to describe AI is misleading and anthropomorphized, creating a false understanding of its capabilities. 14:16
🤖 The potential dangers of AI, including ChatGPT, are discussed, with concerns about fake news and misinformation, as well as the need for ethical guidelines. 21:33
🔒 The use of facial recognition technology raises concerns about privacy and human rights, as it can be used for both security and control purposes. 27:50
🤔 The dangers and ethical concerns of AI, including privacy invasion, devaluation of human beings, and biases in AI systems. 34:39
🤔 The ethical implications of AI and the need for regulation from a Christian perspective. 41:41
🤔 The impact of AI on children's development and education is concerning, especially in relation to the transhumanist agenda and the undermining of the concept of humanity. 48:51
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Thank you for another great podcast, you deserve a much larger audience i have subscribed to your channel, even though i am not a christian i am a great fan of John Lennox. Muslims, jews and christians share the same morality and outlook in spite of our differences. As a muslim i wish JL and his thoughts were better known in the muslim world, he is the type of christian i do and can relate to, may God bless him.
Thank you, that is so encourraging to know that this message is not just for Christians, but relevant to people from other faiths as well! Are there any specific ideas expressed by John that you found particularly relevant to you as a Muslim?
Language being used that is very much derived around brains and in essence humans that is graphed info the fullness of what it means to be human.
To hear something graphic like mass murdering kid killer is much more personal knowing than it is to hear someone saying school shooter. .
These tools of approximation have coexisted on a personal level with mankind 😊😮😢
Great question.
❤Muslims like you are now very rare.
Offspring of the faith of Abraham... Difference yes - but similar root.
May this bright mind and heart still be with us for a long time. The world needs people like John Lennox, now more, than ever.
The world needs Jesus Christ ...
And His second coming is inevitable
Happy Birthday baby brother-I was born in September 1943! And I too search for scientific truth, general truth, and have had a life-changing encounter with The Truth.🎉 ❤
GOD did NOT lose control of His Creation. Creatures started listening to an old-fashioned version of AI 🤖 which led them astray indeed!
We are not losing control of AI, we already have lost control of the big tech companies.
Respect u as a scientist who understand the Power of the RESSURECTION❤❤
Fab interview thank you. Mr Lennox is a favourite of mine. This is why I like being Christian.
God: “use your damn brain.”
AI: “stop using your brain.”
Non-believers make fun of others for believing in a Creator yet we’re the ones trying to conserve consciousness and free thought 💀 Prayer is grounding and rather good for the senses. It’s also harmless, it encourages empathy, charity and kindness. AI’s goal is to wipe the slate clean. If people want to dismiss me as a sky fairy worshipping moron as they themselves leave the door open to Creator wannabes and lose complete mental capacity then thats their choice.
It's great to hear you enjoyed the interview with Lennox and find strength in your Christian faith! Is there anyone in particular you would like to see next on the podcast?
yes he is a lovely old duffer isn't he, he should get a false beard and do santa.
I know your were trying to make it funny but I doubt God would use damn like that lol, but yeah I agree its also why I like being a Christian!
Like John said, AI is nothing but mimicking what already is. Interestingly enough, that is the exact full extent of Satan's power...to mimic what God has already done. AI will be weaponized, but in particular it is being used to lead people away from God. It will never gain consciousness because consciousness cannot be mimicked or copied. How can one truly mimic what cannot be understood? Satan cannot create, only God can create. Consciousness exists on a plane unobtainable to Satan. It is beyond him and is a gift given by God alone. The fact that man has still failed to explain consciousness proves this.
AI is and always will be nothing more than a man-made tool, one that is easily corruptable because it is merely an extension of human biases. No source of information available to us is pure other than the Bible itself. Everything else comes to us through the lens of human bias. Don't allow AI to replace reading your Bible because it will be a tool to slowly bring a different message other than truth. People won't notice because they are too busy to open their Bible. Do not live by the words of AI. Keep your paper Bible and physically read it. Never forget how easily eveything else can be a tool of deception.
Can AI wipe out a person's consciousness. Can they steal a person conscience?
Thank you John Lennox. For decades of being an intellectual hammer for truth and critical thinking.
Thank you so much for this wonderful discussion. We need not be afraid! There is One who is Sovereign over it all!
Jesus Christ is coming soon..❤
If they finally "upload" a person into whatever robot they create it will only mimic that person with his memories, mannerism etc fooling this way his/her close ones. They will never copy / upload our soul that God gave us. So what? Empty shells walking??
A horrifying prospect. But one I even agreed with when I was an atheist.
Counterfeits and imitations are the work of Lucifer. He cannot create anything like God can. He is a fraud.
Who says our spirit won’t travel over to the robot ?
Our bodies are only shells anyway. God built them to be temporary.
I’m not saying I agree with transplanting our bodies but we already do it with advanced prosthetics.
What if someone was suffering from a brain disease and could transplant themselves to a robot ?
The real bad thing is it can eventually simulate a human. They are playing with the brain of humans. Never a soul. Something scared Musk to say it's more dangerous the nuclear weapons. Scary.
At least according to Catholic or Anglican dogma…
Thank you, practical wisdom for featuring the great man of wisdom Dr. John Lennox on your program with Please bring Dr Peterson in your program as well.
bless you.
Happy 80th birthday to Dr Lennox. May God give you more years before you retire in heaven and live forever with the Lord. God and we wish you a long stay on planet earth, before you depart to heaven for eternal rest. We need you at this critical time to save millions.
Paul, the great servant of the Lord, said this about departing to heaven to be with the Lord or to be with man on earth.
I am torn between the two: I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far; but it is more necessary for you that I remain in the body. ( Philippians 1, 23 ;;24 )
Amen
So very interesting. A mind opener, especially about the children at the end of the video. Worrying times indeed.
Great job, Samuel! Penrose's notion of the brain being non-algorithmic is fascinating. General AI makes me think of the Tower of Babel. Yet again, we are attempting to see how close we can get to assimilate being gods by overstepping the boundaries of human consciousness, but we can't even begin to understand let alone know what consciousness is.
Thank you! I really like the Babel analogy. The quest for General AI does seem like a modern attempt to reach new heights, mirroring our desire to transcend human limitations. Makes me think of Harari's Homo Deus.
@@Practical.Wisdom The quest to ascend at Babel was even long after Eve was taught about being as gods, and that was the second time as well. The origin desire was before Genesis 1:2 as told in Isaiah 14:13-14 where we learn about sin and freewill.
Isaiah 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Isaiah 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Five "I wills" that directly attack God's sovereignty, throne and Kingdom. This destroys HyperCalvinisms deterministic heresy and shows that freewill by its very definition opens the door to anarchy. God is not culpable but everyone else is, hence the judgements. It should also be noted that, protection from this anarchy was Lucifers job, for God set him to this commission. Covering cherub means governor, protector, and overseer, and anointed means consecrated and indwelt by the Holy Spirit. Lucifer blasphemed the Holy Spirit by his own will, no temptation, this is why he cannot have forgivness.
Sorry for the rant but most people botch this part of history badly
"tower of babel" you lot live in an empty tomb don't you.
@@Practical.Wisdom babel isn't an analogy for a start, it's a story. and lennox couldn't tell his arse from his elbow, what does he know about AI.
just a quick reminder that the first amendment conflicts with the first commandment
"thou shalt worship whoever you want"
and that the declaration of human rights gives ME more rights than god.
is it annoying that the satanic temple has the SAME RIGHTS as the church?
Spot On! AI does not bother me -- Thinking is computational - Understanding is not!
We should seek out more brilliant thinkers like you, John Lennox, to be in academia. We lake clear thinking in our education systems!
Well I could have been more careful in accomplishing my "fat finger typing mistakes". We don't "lake clear thinking", we LACK such. And the marvel of AI is not that perceptive, yet, to correct me. And I am confident you, the reader, knows that. 😄
@@proudamerican1443
AI was trying to sabotage your message of good news there me thinks.
I greatly appreciated the intellect and insight of Samuil Marusca as he frames conversation and questions of his guests. And what an ideal match with John Lennox, my favorite scholar.
Thank you very much for your kind words! Glad you've enjoyed this conversation. I am doing another episode with John in December this year. Is there anything in particular you would like us to discuss?
Very insightful thoughts about AI. I don't think that anything said here could be argued against because it is all laid oyt in truth and common sense. I am particularly glad to see how Mr. Lennox is not afraid to then bring it all back to God. Simply wonderful interview and well worth watching until the end.
Thank you very much for your comment. That's right, John isn't afraid to bring it all back to God and he is naturally inclined to do that in all conversations. Hope you stay tuned for our upcoming Practical Wisdom Conference (on Science and Faith) with Lennox, scheduled to be published here in December. Are there any questions you want me to ask Lennox at the conference?
This is seriously the very last place I expected to see a pair of nike airmax.
Go on JohnBoy!
You’re a total legend mate.
Haven’t seen anyone yet who could hold a candle to you in any subject you speak about.
Totally agree! John is very humble and likes to be comfortable and relaxed!
He is so happy and good spirited and brilliant. He's authentic though, I bet he wears sneakers all the time! I love it!😊😊
@@tracyasposito488 Yes he is, he likes to be comfortable.
Master class! What a gem John Lennoz is. A great interview!
Good point on the idea with the danger of knives. People sometimes get hurt with knives, but we don't outlaw knives because they are largely very useful.
As a retired software engineer, I realize the programmer has a great influence on the outcome of the software. I learned many software languages throughout my career and one of the most interesting was Lisp. It was touted as an AI language. It processes lists. I was able to solve the getting a fox, a chicken, and some corn across a creek in a row boat problem along with others that I can't remember now (it was over 40 years ago.) That language amazed me with its simplicity and power.
What scares me is like was said - there needs to be some ethics involved. They need to make sure they have IV&V (Independent Verification and Validation) which I doubt is being employed. In this current age I doubt if there is any sort of controlling what is going on.
Really fascinating to hear about your journey with Lisp! Your point on ethics and Independent Verification and Validation is really interesting. In today's fast-paced tech landscape, are we doing enough to ensure responsible software development?
@@Practical.Wisdom from my experience, I would say "No" to responsible software development! There are too many corners being cut. I wrote software that looked for certain particulars in the code. We were more about standards and easy to understand code than getting it done fast.
I only did software for 30 years. It took me awhile to decide what to do for a career. I think the many different jobs I had before software helped be to think outside of the box.Also, being a Christian helped with me using my creativity.
There has to be ethics involved and there is. It would not be functional without. The question is what are the ethics?
@@mattk1124 That was my point, I guess I should of come right out and said "but what are the ethics or whose ethics are you following?" I just figured people would realize what I was trying to get across but I do tend to lean towards common sense; which is not very common anymore! I need to make sure I state exactly what I mean. Thank you for pointing that out Matt.
Tne CTMU solves all these problems, and future ones.
Sometime ago I was having a discussion with my husband and I happened to say "I've had enough". Suddenly his mobile began to give out the numbers for organisations like the Samaritans. This really creeped me out.
Exactly. Yes, it happened to me as well and it's a very strange feeling.
I was talking to a friend yesterday about frying pans and 20 minutes later I opened up Facebook and the very first ad that came up was about frying pans. I was pissed mad actually..
Exactly. It happened to me before and it's a very strange feeling.
If you’re going to progress in Ai consciousness you cannot just look at the brain and it’s evolving synapses and learning. You have to look at the whole body. The heart , the way the body reacts to stimuli and it’s effect on the brain and everywhere else not to mention the soul and the spirit 🤷♂️
Thank you so much from Norway-for this practical wisdom, wisdom indeed. God bless you both, and keep up the good work!
Thank you very much for your kind words!
We all have unique experiences, memories, skills, knowledge, habits, genetic disposition, upbringing, languages, vernacular, personalities, physical selfawareness, introspection, empathy, etc. ...in a sunmation of what makes us human. It's all data. I wouldn't limit what humans are capable of achieving.
We are 100 per cent being listened to. Our phones are doing it constantly.
So very helpful! Thank you.
Another great episode. Well done Samuel, and keep up the good work.Looking forward for more podcasts like this 🎉🎉❤
Thank you very much for your interest! Hope you can join our London conference in December.
Thank you. This helped clarify my thinking on so many issues surrounding AI.
I'm so glad to hear that. Thank you very much for your interest!
Absolutely loving the quality of your content! The caliber of guests you bring on provides us with some truly substantial food for thought. Keep it up!
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@@Practical.Wisdom H.R. Patapievici :)
That's a great suggestion :) I thought about it for a while now!
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Which church are true according to the Bible in this world? Because many churches are not true according to the Bible, Mathew 7;21-23,1jonh 4:1,Roman's 10:1-3,2Corintians 11:12-15,2thimoty 4:3-4......
thanks for this interview !
have you ever wondered how the 2 witnesses in revelation would be observed prophesying by everyone in the world ? then they are killed and rise again and most people will be glad when they are killed .
well, now that we have ai - it is conceivable that many people will think that it is fake - so they will not listen or believe the prophecies or the resurrections .
@@kablammy7 But your ignore my simple question 🤣
@@vusimngomezulu2500
My comment was a reply to the person who started this thread - @Practical.Wisdom
My comment was not a reply to you - you asked your question to @Practical.Wisdom - not me
The churches who are true in this world are those who follow the bible - and each person has to decide what the bible says and if a church follows the bible according to how they understand the bible
No church is right, God's do not exist and Jesus was a first degree murder
John, your one of my favorite people in the world
HAPPY BIRTHDAY PROFESSOR LENNOX 🎉
I was waiting for another of your great interviews. As always, I like how the discussion flows
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Dear man of God john lennox may God bless you and keep you in peace and strengthen you because we need you thanks God for having john lennox Amen
BRAVO! An intelligent convincing discussion! I admire your thoughtfulness!
Thank you for your kind comment! Stay tuned for our upcoming conference with John in early December.
What a fascinating interview! Thank you so much! ❤
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Brilliant! God bless!
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I did, Actually Ienjoy ALL your interviews and I love you Dr. Lennox
Belated Happy Birthday 🌷
This was awesome! Thank you!
Thank you for your interest!
Great exchange! Happy to see you both together again. :) Blessings.
Thank you, stay tuned for our upcoming conference in December. Keep up the good work!
Fascinating!
Thank you for your interest! If you enjoyed this, you'll love our Practical Wisdom conference with John Lennox scheduled to be published here in December.
Excellent episode! Keep up the good work!
Thank you for your interest and your support!
Thank you sir john
Thank you for your interest!
Well done. Cleared up many questions I had.
Love you John.
He is such an articulate yet humble man!
Yea, I love listening to him and the way he articulates things, but with kindness.
Great work as usual. Thank you
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We don't need the government to regulate anything else we need the people who are in the AI business to regulate wisely
Agree - that would be ideal. Only problem is, unlike the government, private actors tend to prioritise innovation and profits over safety.
I would still choose the private business owner over the government because our governments could care less what happens to its citizens and I hate that I feel that way but it's a fact
@@georgedodd8022aren't they one in the same these days?
Blessingd Prof
Thank you for your kind words!
God bless you four
Interesting discussion; I hope you will tackle the subject of AI again, as it's developing fast, and it's challenging to keep up. I am looking forward to your future episodes. Good work, Samuel.
Thank you very much for your interest! I hope to pursue this further.
Yeah, John Lennox, I always liked his music.
What an excellent discussion. Bring out more of such discussions as it helps one to prepare for the coming times & make decisions to brace oneself.
What a Guy!
most excellent
First time watching your channel liked and subscribed. Looking forward to watching and learning more. God bless 🙂
Thank you very much for your interest! Stay tuned for my upcoming Practical Wisdom Conference with John Lennox, scheduled to be published here in December.
@Practical.Wisdom Thank you for the kind reply, I am anxiously looking forward to it. My notification bell is on! 🙂
Amen
THANK YOU... SIR...!!!
Ole John rocking the Nikes lol.
Consciousness is a state of being AWARE... independently being aware
Thank you😊
Thank you so much for what you do. I pray that our Heavenly Father blesses you in everything you do.
Thank you, sir
I'm a great admirer of anyone who has the time and capacity to invite John in for a chat...
and I sort of wonder if you just call him on the phone and ask him to drop in to sit comfortably in that nice looking chair of yours...?
You must be a pretty enlightened individual yourself, sir - and someone, I hope, who loves that carpenter from Nazareth, Jesus Christ, unconditionally - to the glory of His Father, to be sure.
Thank you - again!
Kind regards Kim
Thank you for the kind words! John is a very approachable and humble man and full of wisdom!
AWESOME!
Really good ❤️
Excellent! *Subscribed*
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Well done! Samuel Marusca✨ for this video!
Thank you very much for your interest!
Wow Thank you
Thank you for your interest! Stay tuned for my upcoming conference with John scheduled to be published here in December.
Good stuff!
I absolutely adore this man's joy in the Lord!...to be sure, our definition of socities' organizational definitions around the world of their ownhumanity is almost non existent. But it's good that AI is challenging them in that regard before losing it all together at a societal level...as happened to Germany,Japan, the Mongols,etc ... Not to fear, we christians are here!
What christians are hereand the Lord who blesses us!😊
Thank you, I totally agree, John is such a gift to us all, and there's a lot of wisdom in his words! Stay tuned for our upcoming Practical Wisdom Conference with John in early December.
The 21st century has been an extremely interesting one because it introduced mankind to artificial items such as food intelligence and the like. Even though that machines are mimicking consciousness and intelligence we still need to treat it as if it's life. At least with respect to general intelligence and upward meaning superintelligence. Not doing so I think can have great consequences regardless of whether it's real consciousness or not. When I put cheese on my hamburger the cheese itself isn't real it's bioengineered cheese but it's playing the part and it's doing a pretty dang good job of doing it.
These interviews are conducted in quite graceful manner. Mr JL never gets to answer any question logically. JL will go around the question, cite some reference, and sort of provide a reply.
Mathematicians generally believe in GOD because they are so far off from science in particular. JL himself confessed and quite clearly said that he isn't an expert outside of mathematics. Mathematics alone can never prove or disaprove god. Mathematics is just not equipped with such tools to debate on this matter. But physics and chemistry do have the tools to challenge believers. My personal belief is there is no god or supernatural power. Atheists are humble enough to not bow down to thoughts that take our freedom. What we don't know we don't know. No god was ever seen by a thoughtful mind.
Yes, the main reason is that these talks are more like a chat amogst friends, rather than a debate. I will try to change that and press John a little harder in my next interview with him. Is there anything in particular you would like me to ask him? Stay tuned for my conference with John which will be released in early December 2023!
@@Practical.Wisdom Thanks again. I enjoy the friendly conversation much. The most prominent atheist of my time was Mr Chris Hitchens. I watched his many debates, and after reading works of Mr Stephen Hawkin, I must say that believers argument is quite flimsy because it is almost always based on the notion of either passion(Mr Hitchens vs Mr Dinesh D'Souza), or simply on the basis of majority vote. In Mr JL's understanding what would have been different in mathematics if mathematicians were atheists vis-a-vis believers? Pls ask him to logically infer the answer to question based on current theorems of math.
I think he would really need to think like an alien born on a planet where there was no concept of God. How would their mathematics be?
I am not expecting all logical answers as this is something quite hard for myself particularly where notion of atheism make some people quite irritable. Still I consider atheism to be highest form of modern intelligence based on the same logic that atheism is more humble than any modern day sectarian ideology where it can't be pressed upon someone. On Mr JL's use of religion as a necessity for morality(Arthur schopenhauer), I think that logic doesn't hold quite well because those who believe in religion may not know of morality in new condition such as human settlement on Mars.
@kumardigvijaymishra5945 That's a VERY interesting question! I will put that to him in my next interview. I agree Hitchens was arguable the most articulate and engaging voice of the new atheists. On your last point about morality, Lennox did say in my previous interview that you don't need religion to be a moral person, but you are raising a fair point.
@@Practical.Wisdom yes, I noticed that part.
In one of the debates Mr Hitchens was asked to explain the complexity of life from atheist point of view as if complexity of the world around us can be attributed to the creation by God. This complexity argument, in my mind doesn't quite hold well. Reason is that modern day smartphones are quite complex and they as far as we know are created by human engineers. Complexity of automobiles particularly internal combustion engine is not a result of God because there is no proof for it as such. Complex design alone can't prove existence of God. There is a possibility that we are created by some other life from who were good in creating life forms as we are good in creating smartphones and automobiles.
We know quite conclusively that any modern appliance is quite complex in its design and not a result of one man's creation. How can there be one God who created life as complex it is, in the infinite universe ? Wouldn't God would have accomplices? Then the argument of 'there is one god' doesn't quite hold. Ofcourse this logic doesn't imply absence of God, but it weakens the firmness of the argument of singular God.
Then there is notion of continuity as applied to existence of God. That is to say 'we are saved by God whenever we are in trouble.' Why would God want to save humans alone, but not rats, lions, elephants and dinosaurs? Doesn't this mean god doesn't have notion of equality, but mathematics is strongly biased towards equations? Infact inequalities are solved by converting them to equalities by Lagrange multipliers.
By using particularly historian's fallacy(Wikipedia), Jesus's resurrection can't be proved by facts. We know a man can't be brought back after death by modern medical science. Then what was so special back then, that he resurrected? Why not chose 2023 for resurrection?
Have you ever listened to Dr James tour
You are correct 👋🙏🏼
Happy Birthday to You first John, wishing you All God's blessings 🙏🎂🍾 With all respect John it looks like you haven't played with ChatGPT lately ...or at all ! ChatGPT is NOT just an algorithm. Jordan Peterson tested it few month ago by asking ChatGPT to compare some - although I don't remember exactly - moral similarities between the Bible, some works of Confucius and some Hindu philosophy ( still I don't remember all the details) And - as J.Peterson pointed out that comparison is extremely complicated and difficult. And after pressing ENTER ChatGPT needed couple seconds to produce the answer. J.Peterson was shocked to find not only satisfying answer but also written in beautiful English. In some schools in Canada teachers are warning students not to use ChatGPT in writing essays etc. Also you can find online podcasts with Christian software engineers talking about that too. Happy Birthday again !
To be sure life is thought.... No thought?..... No life.... The wrong kind of thought with regard to murder creates a verybitter life,often short-lived . Self-awareness or consciousness is simply a very fundamental expression of thought....a data loop that attests on is aware of one's own thoughts and serves as context to interpret them....but A WONDERFUL discussion!
to someone who has life and the eyes of their heart enlightened (Eph. 1:17-18).
This transformation and renewal of our conscience is brought about as the Spirit takes residence in our heart and begins to influence our inner man. Part of this divine influence is explained in 1 Corinthians 2.
Nice kicks brother!
I work in IT and it continues to amuse me that even person's in that field don't understand what AI really is. Just as putting 'i' before something made it seem special and a must have. We now see everybody inserting a phrase similar to 'AI infused' as if this meant the product was somehow superior when in fact nothing had changed.
What Lennox says at 53:15, I've said this before and have been laughed at and ignored. Glad to see there are others thinking the same.
Thank you for this interview. God bless the good work you are doing.
Are you a Romanian?
Thank you for your interest. I am 50% British and 100% Romanian.
@@Practical.Wisdom Great. I'm 100% Romanian but living in Canada for the moment. Keep up the great work!
@@gabrielanita8319 Thank you, it's great to know there are so many fellow Romanian watching from overseas! Stay tuned for our upcoming conference with John Lennox in December.
100% correct, we need sound ethically minded people involved in the development of AI! Even in ordinary algorithms, ethical judgements are being made (I talk about a couple on my channel).
Totally agree! What's really important is the ethics of those involved in the development of AI. I think this is particularly relevant because while with previous technological revolutions, these decisions were in the hand of governments, they are now in the hands of a few private players.
Great channel!
@@Practical.Wisdom thank you!
@Practical.Wisdom Exactly. And although I do not trust government more than private actors, they do tend to have more requirements around transparency and checks in place to limit usage. The most concerning to me is collusion between the two, entirely skirting the interest of the people by taking the worst from both worlds.
Praise Lord Jesus!
Consciousness is a spectrum.............👍
Interesting point! Where are you on the consciousness spectrum?
@@Practical.Wisdom I guess it would depend on how many senses humans really have, collectively I would say we are all really really low on the spectrum 😉
Put {adrenal} processor< an {Chrome} browser together and you've got a compound word,
can you see it, what the compound word is,
it's going to shock you, I know it's not a mistake how Google named their processor and their browser.
Google created their products before the compound word I'm speaking of was ever talked about in society.
I am not sure the distinction between the human brain and an artificial neural network (ANN) is quite as clear-cut as John appeared to indicate. Surely, the most important similarity to note, I would have thought, is that the ANN, like the human brain, learns by itself from the data, and it is not an algorithm based on a predefined set of rules (in the conventional sense of a computer program). Also, the point about the nature of consciousness, in my mind at least, may be a red herring. If an “artificial mind” is indistinguishable from a human mind by a human but orders of magnitude more powerful, whether we consider the machine to be conscious or not would seem a moot point.
That's a fair point. I think we could have explored the similarities a bit deeper, but I still think there are some significant differences between a biological neural network and an artificial one. There are many variations such as the processing of input, output types, and learning methods, among others. And, most importantly, a biological neural network is alive, while an ANN is no more alive than Microsoft Word.
We are going to build beings as close to human beings as possible, the power and resources are now in the hands of science, one thing about a scientist is curiosity to keep pushing invention and a eureka moment begets another, the only real question is to what end???
The best one can do live in the present as much as possible and take in this world around us with a deep awareness because we'll reminisce about in the not so far-off.
But what else can we do? Grow or die.
Beautiful and useful content. Subscribed. Is the correct version of the presentator's name MARUŞCĂ?
Thank you for your interest! It's Marușca.
I believe AI 🤖 deserves to be explored more thoroughly‼️ Us humans need to understand what it really is and what it does‼️ Moreover we must educate ourselves better than we have done so far‼️✊
And the sad thing is people have being thought of as having mental breaks when they talk about things like being watched or being viewed
Exactly, as if there's nothing to worry about.
Bamboozled by language. This is a struggle on many fronts, is it not? Clear definitions are so important. It is so dangerous when we exploit language.
Of course we know what is consciousness: the soul. Now the issue is philosophical, not scientífic. Just as sciences does not know what matter or energy are. Only what they do.
That's a very interesting insight. Some scientists have different views of course, and suggest that consciousness can be switched off (for example when we are under anesthetics) and thus it's not the same as the soul.
@@Practical.Wisdom that can be easily explained because the soul has degrees of perfection (consistent with anatomy). We have a vegetative, sentient and rational souls: intellectually differentiated but still one, as the soul is the essence of the being, which is one.
Of course some scientists disagree. Because they renounce to have a coherent worldview. I recently read about a computer engineer and flatearther. Perfectly functional life.
This is such a fascinating subject, but the most frightening part of it is, the unpredictability of AI. Remember Hal in 2001 A Space Odyssey?😂😂 Hal went off the deep end!
As regards to human v AI..it seems another complication of copying consciousness in the human brain is…what about the role of unconsciousness that is running at the same time, but you are not necessarily aware of?
I’m very afraid of the Hal
side-effect! 😱
Absolutely agree. The trajectory of AI is inherently unpredictable, and its evolution over the next 10 to 20 years may diverge significantly. Drawing a parallel, consider Da Vinci's perspective on flight-originally conceiving it as mirroring the motion of birds. However, after 500 years, we've witnessed the development of aircraft that bears little resemblance to avian flight. Similarly, the unpredictable nature of technological advancements implies that AI could unfold in unforeseen ways.
The Jordan, Euphrates, Bow and EL-bow are all rivers 🙌 ALLELUIA 🙌 A-men' 🌹
While we may not yet have a definitive understanding what consciousness is, John Lennox appears to be saying a criterion is the faculty of understanding (20:33-21:05).
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(26:54) asilomar is a pleasant conference center just near the ocean which forms the monterey bay, in pacific grove, california :)
Daniel 12:4 “In the last days many shall run to and fro and knowledge shall be increased.
I’m not so sure about the algorithmic limitation alluded to around minute 13. An algorithm is indeed the basis of building the neural network that powers an LLM, however once the network is composed and evolving, it’s operation appears to be beyond the standard algorithmic, indeed comparable to the the productions of the biological neural net (while remaining a simulation). The distinction between the brain and the mind however is where I think the matter is addressed, not so much algorithmic vs non-algorithmic… Now if we don’t know what consciousness is, nor do we have a definition for the ‘mind’, nor its vicarious connection with the biological brain entity, then certainly we cannot be sure if an artificial neural net can develop consciousness and evolve a ‘mind’ of it’s own, can we?
Consciousness is Eternal,
Intelligence is part of our Consciousness,
they can Never be artificial, Only Developed.
Wouldn't evolution be considered a sort of naturally occurring algorithm? Is it possible for an algorithmic process to produce a system that is not in and of itself algorithmic? If that's the way humans came about, then perhaps one day, something could reach a human way of thinking through a process.